@@genericallyentertaining Ian from _Forgotten Weapons_ recently won his division in a shooting competition because he was the only one competing in it.
How the fuck is he even close to that? Rococopunk: No themes of nature or french art Or upsetting the status quo Found family core: Most of the characters are comedic caricatures rather than potential friends
Any time I watch an anime online and see others recommended on the side, I'm confused as hell by the titles... "It's high school, but in my former life I was a level 100 noble elf prince CEO, so now I will use my power of Persuade to convince everyone" ...but you're probably right, this is the reason :D
If you didn’t know, the actual reason is that the webnovel site most light novels are originally published on, syosetu/narou, doesn’t have cover art and also doesn’t show the synopsis until you actually click on the novel, so they started basically putting the synopsis in the title instead so people would be more likely to look at it while browsing.
If you think bookreaders are bad, wait till you hear Metal Fans! It can never just be a nice riff, or even an established mainstream term like Power metal or Industrial metal. No erm achually its "Post-Grunge Pirate Speedcore" didn't you know!
I feel so heard. Music subgenre purists are so much worse than literary subgenre purists. That's why a lot of people just go by decades, because once you get into the weeds of blues, soul, r&b, funk and psychedelia, there's no going back. Don't even get me started on like Death Grips, Bowie or King Gizzard fans.
There's a redemption arc in the fourth act, but its undone in the final fifth act to subvert expectations and keep in spirit of the subgenre I'm writing in.
This is why I tell people that I write speculative fiction instead of post colonial upmarket kafkaesque fiction with elements of new weird, slipstream, ecohorror, faithpunk and mythic fantasy.
Have we already forgotten the disaster that was "Sexy times with Wangxian", an Untamed/Mo Dao Zu Shi fanfic by virtual1979?? The first three tags you see when you zoom into a screenshot of that tag textwall is how you're going to die. That's why AO3 put a limit on tags. This is the future booktokers want. Blurbs that are only tags, written by virtual1979.
This video was great! Truly my favorite 21st-century-punk agreeable roommatecore bibliophile drama video with 21st-century-punk Derek-is-a-total-mouthbreather-core bibliophobic tragedy and Derek-can’t-appreciate-true-art-punk roommates-to-enemies-core psychological horror undertones!
I'm gonna write a book about two bipolar schizophrenics. It's going to be a classic friends-to-enemies-to-lovers-to-friends-to-coworkers-to-friends-to-frenemies-to-comrads-to-rivals-to-fuckbuddies-to-nemeses-to-patrons-to-familiars-to-chums-to-classmates-to-siblings-to-foes-to-cousins-to-alter-egos-to-homies-to-strangers-to-boyfriends-to-girlfriends-to-arch-nemeses-to-acquaintances
So the story is that they hate each other (maybe they're constantly paranoid about each other), but then fall in love and date, but then they realise they're better of as friends, but then realise they aren't friends, but just coworkers, but then they realise that they actually were friends, but then they are friends but also hate each other, but then join a party of commune likers, but then they both rise to leadership position in the party and become rivals, but then they become friends again and this time they're attracted to each other, but then one of them leaves the party and joins a party of Roman stick bundle likers, but then joined back into the other one (now a rank below the other character), but then they grew apart a bit again, but then they become friends once again, but then they both went back to school and are in the same class, but then their parents marry each other, but then they start arguing (like siblings do), but then their other parents marry too, but then they swap each others identities, but then they become friends again (guessing the parents probably got divorced), but then they grow apart again, but then they start dating again, but then they realise that both of them are trans women, but then one of them starts liking JKR, but then she stops doing that, but their relationship is too damaged to continue, so they just go separate ways...
On the printSF subreddit there’s always requests for such specific stories. Like Hey guys any recommendations for a book that takes place on mars where they find an ancient human civilization that discovered space travel thousands of years ago but lost it? Like it’s so specific it almost feels like an ad.
William Gibson's so-called cyberpunk work was in part a warning about tendencies to conformist thinking and the harms that causes. Consider the unthinking adding of -punk to random words in order to fit within arbitrary genre containers.
Yeah, it's funny how far the term has come! Nowadays the "punk" element is optional even for "cyberpunk"; people can just have take any story with neon signs and VR headsets and call it "cyberpunk" even if it thematically has nothing to do with punk-ness.
Origin of the name cyberpunk: Bruce Bethke wrote a short story with that title, and it stuck. That's it. That's the whole reason. Bethke never made a claim to have invented the subgenre, and other than accidentally naming it, his major contribution to it was satirizing it in _Headcrash_ (good book, by the way). It's actually a lot like almost every scandal or quasi-scandal of the last 30 years or so gaining the suffix -gate, because Bill Clinton was investigated for his involvement in the Whitewater Development Corporation, and somebody thought it was funny to call the affair Whitewatergate as a callback to the Watergate scandal.
@@jic1 What would you even be conforming to? There are a good chunk of people who think the Earth is flat. We're ever further from the post-war consensus. No one agrees on anything.
1:15 - That's a beautifully fitting face expression, which, turned into a meme, I could and would use to express my inmost reactions to most of modern world's madness 😅
I concur. A gothic (genre) novel is likely to have a young lady character wandering a grand estate in her chemise while holding a candle because it's the dead of night (trope)...but if "young lady wandering a grand estate in her chemise while holding a candle because it's the dead of night" is what the advertisement is selling then it's not really one of the outstandingly GOOD gothic novels is it? There's apparently nothing else about the story to sell it on. That's not why readers of that genre liked the genre.
"Prime Minister, I must protest in the strongest possible terms my profound opposition to a newly instituted practice, which imposes severe and INTOLERABLE restrictions upon the ingress and egress of senior members of the hierarchy, and which will, in all probability, should the current deplorable innovation be perpetuated, precipitate a constriction of the channels of communication, and culminate in the condition of organizational atrophy and administrative paralysis, which would render effectively impossible the coherent and coordinated discharge of the function of government within Her Majesty's United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland!!"
I know of at least one author who had to create an alias because the Amazon algorithm wouldn't recommend his books because he wouldn't stick to a single genre.
You know for smut, specificity of plot dynamics are important, but if im reading a book usually i don't even read the summary. I literally base a book on title alone. Now-a-days with audio books i will also choose a book based on the narrators I enjoy. Narrators often seem to stick to a genre or style, so it's easier to find new authors i enjoy by adding all the books they,ve narrated to my to-read list.
Tbh this is what happens when society hates "spoilers" avoiding natural urge to know what story you are getting into I'm not talking about specific types of stories based arround single information (like crime books etc) but if i get my ursula le guin (i don't remember what's book name in english) telling me whole story in a nutshell in first act i won't be bothered by it People please start spoiling main story beats before story even starts i'm begging you We roam to the end page in most cases anyway
Your delivery is so believable (I've met people that talk like this) I honestly found myself wondering how much of these 'genres' were real. XD Like I know steampunk, but recocopunk and hard-boiled sci-fi and micro fantasy broke me. You're so good at this lmao
"I have noticed for a while now that a lot of Zoomer aged people, at least online, have this obsessive desire to name and sort and categorize everything as specifically as possible. If something doesn't have a name and a precise definition that can be filed away on some specialized Wiki somewhere, then it doesn't truly exist and isn't worth anything. A fellow Millennial friend of mine described this as the Gen Z tendency to make everything a Pokemon. Frutiger Aero is such a great example of this tendency because they have taken a perfectly good concept, which is Nostalgia for The Vibes of the first two decades of the 21st Century, and linked it to this exotic and unintuitive pseudo academic term, and all that does is turn what should be a broad and accessible nostalgic project into an exercise in gatekeeping and fussiness over precise definitions and examples. I'm not even going to bother explaining what the name Frutiger Aero even means, because the mere fact that the name even requires an explanation is an acknowledgement of its failure” - J.J. McCullough
To be fair, I think it can be a bit difficult to make generalizations about generations in terms of online activity, since the anonymity of the internet often makes it impossible to know someone's actual age. I suspect there are a lot more 30- and 40-year-olds on tumblr than many people realize That being said, this is a pretty good description of hyper-online people
Micro-genres have been a thing for quite a while, specially in regards to music. Like many other things, it's a millennial phenomenon that is being painted as a zoomer thing for some reason.
Yeah, that definitely exists. There's no way that it doesn't. ...Yup, if you google for "slasher horror books goodreads", you lists of hundreds of novels, and "slasher horror books reddit" gives dozens of recommendation threads.
The Final Girl Support Group by Grady Hendrix but that's a self-aware genre deconstruction. There's also Final Girls by Riley Sager. Both are considered "Domestic Noir" crime fiction.
Only if you have a strong stomach: Frisk by Dennis Cooper got a movie adaptation in 1995 and it's still my favorite book in his George Miles Cycle (5-book series) -but it's controversial and gruesome far beyond the genre-typical slasher horror violence. So I would recommend first his short story collection titled "Wrong", read Introducing Horror Hospital because that's the only normative short story in there...and then, if you really must, read the rest and find that most of the characters will be serial killers (among many many many other crimes, tragedies, and evils).
It was mostly due to cyberpunk having a distinct setting style, and then steampunk stole the -punk suffix while incorporating no punk elements, and then when variations like dieselpunk and solarpunk came around, they did the same thing. And then everyone else took -punk just as a suffix to indicate a distinct world style, which is mostly what it still is in writing today
In that Book Club, the Art of Categorization attained such perfection that a genre of a book occupied the entirety of a chapter. In time, those Unconscionable Genres no longer satisfied, and the Categorizers Guild struck a Genre of their Book whose size was that of the Book, and which coincided letter by letter with it. The following Generations, who were not so fond of the Study of Categorization as their Forebears had been, saw that that vast Genre was Useless, and without some Pitilessness was it, that they delivered it up to the Inclemencies of Sun and Winters.
This is all because of fanfiction. Fanfic is written not just around genre, or even specific tropes, but to include these hyper specific story beats. Sometimes they have a made to order aspect because they can be made to order for a request or contest. People have taken that sensibility to fiction now
I disagree, I think it's because of marketing trends in traditional publishing, that still have much more power and influence than fanfiction writers. It's not the fault of fanfiction that marketing for mainstream traditional publishing houses chases trends they don't understand, to use in the worst ways. For example, I looked up silkpunk and found two answers from author Ken Liu (Three-Body Problem, Grace of Kings) who coined the term, about what it really is: 1. Silkpunk is NOT steampunk but make it Asian. It is organic, blurry at the edges and has a flow. The technology and poetry are the same. 2. The publisher made Liu make up a label, so he made it up at random. It doesn't mean anything. This author personally hates labels. The term silkpunk had nothing to do with fanfiction. It's only how the industry did its thing, and now nobody running the marketing department of those publishing houses knows what they're doing.
Don't you hate it when your gothic post-alt-singularity plasticpunk paleospace hard fantasy medium sci fi soft-detective marimba players to friends to candy salesmen to basset hounds to Italian potato chips novel has them be glockenspiel players instead of marimba players first?
"Even the cover of the book gets it right" omg 😱 i spend so much time thinking about how the Shrike on every book of the Cantos has a different but still not even close depiction of the Shrike compared to the description in the novel. I have been thinking about it for 20 years.
"What are these words coming out of your mouth?" 😂😂😂 At 1:18 is like.... I though that MY personal subgenre simply called "SCUBA-punk" was weird😅 and I like to see that there are... Well😅 ever Weirder ones! Oh my 😅 have writing felt low or high?
Generic Entertainment is my favourite rococo-punk found family core cozy alt-history micro fantasy youtuber.
You're always number one if you go niche enough!
@@genericallyentertaining Ian from _Forgotten Weapons_ recently won his division in a shooting competition because he was the only one competing in it.
How the fuck is he even close to that?
Rococopunk: No themes of nature or french art Or upsetting the status quo
Found family core: Most of the characters are comedic caricatures rather than potential friends
Not #1 for me, but for sure in the top 5.
How can you not see that's the channel is actually creampunk denimcore protofictional alt-culinary non-newtonian fantasy sci fi.
Oh that's why Japanese light novel make the synopsis their title...
Any time I watch an anime online and see others recommended on the side, I'm confused as hell by the titles... "It's high school, but in my former life I was a level 100 noble elf prince CEO, so now I will use my power of Persuade to convince everyone"
...but you're probably right, this is the reason :D
There's actually an explanation that involves the stories not having room for synopsis so the title had to convey the plot
If you didn’t know, the actual reason is that the webnovel site most light novels are originally published on, syosetu/narou, doesn’t have cover art and also doesn’t show the synopsis until you actually click on the novel, so they started basically putting the synopsis in the title instead so people would be more likely to look at it while browsing.
@@LightsOutAce1 fix a problem with a smaller problem
And why the West did the same 300 hears ago....
as someone who used to be obsessed with subgenres as a young teen, i am sorry
You should be
It's okay, if everybody was held accountable for teenage cringe, we'd live in a much darker world.
@@genericallyentertaining There's probably a joke about social media in there somewhere.
If that's the worst thing you did as a teen, you're fine.
This isn't a skit. It is a documentary about Goodreads reviewers.
Friends to lovers to coworkers to roommates to in-laws to litigants to pastry chefs is now my favorite romantic trope. Thank you for enlightening me.
Real
Based!!
If you think bookreaders are bad, wait till you hear Metal Fans! It can never just be a nice riff, or even an established mainstream term like Power metal or Industrial metal. No erm achually its "Post-Grunge Pirate Speedcore" didn't you know!
Yup! I was just gonna say that. I’m a metalhead, and the amount of sub genres that metal music has is ridiculous!
As someone into both… send help
@@solalabell9674 Same...
Post-Grunge Pirate Speedcore does sound sick though.
I feel so heard. Music subgenre purists are so much worse than literary subgenre purists. That's why a lot of people just go by decades, because once you get into the weeds of blues, soul, r&b, funk and psychedelia, there's no going back. Don't even get me started on like Death Grips, Bowie or King Gizzard fans.
There must have been _so_ many takes trying to get all those "subgenre" words right XD
Yeah, this was definitely one of my hardest videos to film, lol.
Someone's been reading my Generic Entertainment fanfic on social media.
There's a redemption arc in the fourth act, but its undone in the final fifth act to subvert expectations and keep in spirit of the subgenre I'm writing in.
It's a neocosmopolitan shaken over ice art deco technopunk dystopian retro-introspective homonym mystery thriller called _In Do Time._
Peak writing ngl
Drop the AO3 link
This is why I tell people that I write speculative fiction instead of post colonial upmarket kafkaesque fiction with elements of new weird, slipstream, ecohorror, faithpunk and mythic fantasy.
Faith punk? That can’t be real. Those 2 are basically opposites, it’s like an oxymoron
This is why genre is a categorization of marketing and not writing
Write what your heart wishes and let the marketing team suffer to sell your work
Rest assured: More than half of these subgenres were invented by Michael Moorcock.
Oh, I love that micro genre, I’ve read both the books in it!
Actually, only one of those books is really part of it, and you'd know that if you were a *real* fan...
Meanwhile me: I like fantasy (story has magic in it)
based lol
Dragons- high fantasy
Modern cities- urban fantasy
Spaceships-scifi
All of them-cosmerepunk
@@andrzejukasz8774Dragons isn’t high fantasy, high fantasy means supernatural is natural. It just often has dragons because dragons are cool
@@andrzejukasz8774 The Cosmere is just, fantasy, which subgenre you ask? Yes
People are expecting book genres to follow the rules of fanfiction tagging systems
Have we already forgotten the disaster that was "Sexy times with Wangxian", an Untamed/Mo Dao Zu Shi fanfic by virtual1979??
The first three tags you see when you zoom into a screenshot of that tag textwall is how you're going to die. That's why AO3 put a limit on tags. This is the future booktokers want. Blurbs that are only tags, written by virtual1979.
This video was great! Truly my favorite 21st-century-punk agreeable roommatecore bibliophile drama video with 21st-century-punk Derek-is-a-total-mouthbreather-core bibliophobic tragedy and Derek-can’t-appreciate-true-art-punk roommates-to-enemies-core psychological horror undertones!
Makes sense he doesn't like subgenres he is generic entertainment after all.
I'm gonna write a book about two bipolar schizophrenics. It's going to be a classic friends-to-enemies-to-lovers-to-friends-to-coworkers-to-friends-to-frenemies-to-comrads-to-rivals-to-fuckbuddies-to-nemeses-to-patrons-to-familiars-to-chums-to-classmates-to-siblings-to-foes-to-cousins-to-alter-egos-to-homies-to-strangers-to-boyfriends-to-girlfriends-to-arch-nemeses-to-acquaintances
😂😂 was not ready for the siblings to foe to cousins.
Alter Egos what happens there the two become one or swap minds? Even end on bland note just meh there okay no strong feelings after all that build up
So the story is that they hate each other (maybe they're constantly paranoid about each other), but then fall in love and date, but then they realise they're better of as friends, but then realise they aren't friends, but just coworkers, but then they realise that they actually were friends, but then they are friends but also hate each other, but then join a party of commune likers, but then they both rise to leadership position in the party and become rivals, but then they become friends again and this time they're attracted to each other, but then one of them leaves the party and joins a party of Roman stick bundle likers, but then joined back into the other one (now a rank below the other character), but then they grew apart a bit again, but then they become friends once again, but then they both went back to school and are in the same class, but then their parents marry each other, but then they start arguing (like siblings do), but then their other parents marry too, but then they swap each others identities, but then they become friends again (guessing the parents probably got divorced), but then they grow apart again, but then they start dating again, but then they realise that both of them are trans women, but then one of them starts liking JKR, but then she stops doing that, but their relationship is too damaged to continue, so they just go separate ways...
@@Idkpleasejustletmechangeit got it thank for answering my questions sorry I don’t have another paragraph to respond with :/
This has been my experience having friends in college
I think the “slasher horror” was Derrick killing his roommate. That’s what any sane human would do.
When the genre is the plot.
Don't you hate it when they turn the plot beat into "marketable" trope😂
This is why I don't go by genres, i go by "I like when they do this thing" and I'm good
1:46 I thought you said 'Michaelpunk' for a second and burst out laughing.
Same! 🎉✨
On the printSF subreddit there’s always requests for such specific stories. Like Hey guys any recommendations for a book that takes place on mars where they find an ancient human civilization that discovered space travel thousands of years ago but lost it?
Like it’s so specific it almost feels like an ad.
William Gibson's so-called cyberpunk work was in part a warning about tendencies to conformist thinking and the harms that causes. Consider the unthinking adding of -punk to random words in order to fit within arbitrary genre containers.
Yeah, it's funny how far the term has come! Nowadays the "punk" element is optional even for "cyberpunk"; people can just have take any story with neon signs and VR headsets and call it "cyberpunk" even if it thematically has nothing to do with punk-ness.
Origin of the name cyberpunk: Bruce Bethke wrote a short story with that title, and it stuck.
That's it. That's the whole reason. Bethke never made a claim to have invented the subgenre, and other than accidentally naming it, his major contribution to it was satirizing it in _Headcrash_ (good book, by the way).
It's actually a lot like almost every scandal or quasi-scandal of the last 30 years or so gaining the suffix -gate, because Bill Clinton was investigated for his involvement in the Whitewater Development Corporation, and somebody thought it was funny to call the affair Whitewatergate as a callback to the Watergate scandal.
In a postmodern media landscape literally everything is punk, even conformity.
@@PlatinumAltaria *Especially* conformity.
@@jic1 What would you even be conforming to? There are a good chunk of people who think the Earth is flat. We're ever further from the post-war consensus. No one agrees on anything.
Choices choices, should I describe my story as "impressionist solarpunk-gaslamp fantasy", or should I finish writing?
Describe it as "impressionist solarpunk-gaslight fantasy" and convince your audience they've already read it.
I appreciate how beat up that kindle cover is.
Yeah, I've had it for over a decade, lol.
@@genericallyentertaining Impressive. Mine is beat to hell and I'm also never replacing it.
The subtitles of this video are a gift to humanity
came for the Solarpunk advertised on the thumbnail. commented for the lack of advertised Solarpunk.
Tbh i hate when idiots gatekeep solarpunk
Me too! I want a refund!
1:15 - That's a beautifully fitting face expression, which, turned into a meme, I could and would use to express my inmost reactions to most of modern world's madness 😅
This is what looking for Fanfiction on AO3 is like
I swear somehow we’re forgetting tropes are not genres. Idk what happened but I’m sure the blame lies in corporate greed, somehow
I concur. A gothic (genre) novel is likely to have a young lady character wandering a grand estate in her chemise while holding a candle because it's the dead of night (trope)...but if "young lady wandering a grand estate in her chemise while holding a candle because it's the dead of night" is what the advertisement is selling then it's not really one of the outstandingly GOOD gothic novels is it? There's apparently nothing else about the story to sell it on. That's not why readers of that genre liked the genre.
Still dropping some impressive knowledge in both architecture and archeology.
You have a Michael Palin-like gift for spouting confusing jargon at a rapid pace
These skits are super underrated! Great job!
For some reason this is the funniest video I've seen in 3 month...
As a connoisseur of Salvage-Pelagic-Ecocore Eagle-Quilt-Judeopunk Science-Fantasy, I finally feel heard.
Wait a minute, this man isnt carrying a thing
I mean, of course not, the video is three minutes long
Wow, that was impressive word-spilling! Nigel Hawthorne (Sir Humphry in "Yes, Minister") would be proud of you!❤
Great show
"Prime Minister, I must protest in the strongest possible terms my profound opposition to a newly instituted practice, which imposes severe and INTOLERABLE restrictions upon the ingress and egress of senior members of the hierarchy, and which will, in all probability, should the current deplorable innovation be perpetuated, precipitate a constriction of the channels of communication, and culminate in the condition of organizational atrophy and administrative paralysis, which would render effectively impossible the coherent and coordinated discharge of the function of government within Her Majesty's United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland!!"
@@BazukinBelyugovich :-)
This is the literary equal of skibidi toilet brainrot😂
This is hilarious because even though ive never experienced this, I can feel exactly how this would be something that happens.
over medium instead of hard-boiled is hillarious
The sprawling epic fantasy multi-series in my head can now be described as myco-punk. Thank you.
You officially have my attention. Can we expect a release date announcement sometime soon?
@@genericallyentertaining What is your date range for "soon"?
I like romance novels *reads books that are actually just instructions for making chocolate milk*
Marketing gurus say you can't get too niche
I know of at least one author who had to create an alias because the Amazon algorithm wouldn't recommend his books because he wouldn't stick to a single genre.
this reminds me of when i came up with the completely fake subgenre of "universality" to describe my music taste
2:59
“Are you threatening to kill me?”
“No.. you’re the one who kills _me”_
"It's like, French Roccoco style. that doesn't really seem in line with Endicotts' Georgian sensibilities."
I understood that reference.
You know for smut, specificity of plot dynamics are important, but if im reading a book usually i don't even read the summary. I literally base a book on title alone. Now-a-days with audio books i will also choose a book based on the narrators I enjoy. Narrators often seem to stick to a genre or style, so it's easier to find new authors i enjoy by adding all the books they,ve narrated to my to-read list.
Who has the most subgenres, SF/Fantasy or Metal music?
My favorite is creampunk denimcore protofictional alt-culinary non-newtonian fantasy sci fi.
Don't you like it when the synopsis turn into tags, the specific plot beat turn into trope labels? 😂
"Genres" don't exist in the same way "fish" don't exist.
But do they exist in the same way that trees exist?
Tbh this is what happens when society hates "spoilers" avoiding natural urge to know what story you are getting into
I'm not talking about specific types of stories based arround single information (like crime books etc) but if i get my ursula le guin (i don't remember what's book name in english) telling me whole story in a nutshell in first act i won't be bothered by it
People please start spoiling main story beats before story even starts i'm begging you
We roam to the end page in most cases anyway
this is how I sound to my friends when talking about IDM driven flashcore and post death industrial harsh noise (Both very real subgenres btw!)
Finally, someone understands.
Dude loves punk
true
still rococopunk will look hard af
thats like the 3 musketeers
BookTokers and Fanfic Readers in a nutshell 🤣
This is what the metalcore subreddit is like
I feel kind of sad that I know almost every word he said.
The fact I know and understand at least half the subgenres he's naming X'D
My favorite genre is alt history punk detective found-family-core horror bibliophobic micro fantasy
best channel on youtube i swear
Your delivery is so believable (I've met people that talk like this) I honestly found myself wondering how much of these 'genres' were real. XD Like I know steampunk, but recocopunk and hard-boiled sci-fi and micro fantasy broke me. You're so good at this lmao
Solarpunk is actually fire tho
I never understood the people who love literary fiction but hate "genre fiction".
This channel needs to get bigger now!
Fucking hilarious 😂
Marvelously funny. A real gem.
...yup, definitely time to get a new roommate. 😆
And I thought villain protagonist books was a very specific, niche genre!😂😅
It's called "villainess Isekai" ...
@@valhatan3907 I prefer male MCs, but I've read my share of Isekai lol
I like my paleopunk like I like my coffee, at least a billion years old and filled with enigmatic marine life.
its called *genre* derek!
My MFA thesis in art school was titled Petropunk, which was just our actual timeline told as if it were a subgenre of science fiction.
Shit went real fast at the end.
😅YOU ARE MY COPILOT 🙌 … 😂
#Genre is the death of Storytelling, and the Bain of Bookstores.
My favorite part was when he carried the thing
yeah my eyes were glazed over through most of this video. Well done.
These subgenres are literally spoilers 💀
"I have noticed for a while now that a lot of Zoomer aged people, at least online, have this obsessive desire to name and sort and categorize everything as specifically as possible. If something doesn't have a name and a precise definition that can be filed away on some specialized Wiki somewhere, then it doesn't truly exist and isn't worth anything. A fellow Millennial friend of mine described this as the Gen Z tendency to make everything a Pokemon.
Frutiger Aero is such a great example of this tendency because they have taken a perfectly good concept, which is Nostalgia for The Vibes of the first two decades of the 21st Century, and linked it to this exotic and unintuitive pseudo academic term, and all that does is turn what should be a broad and accessible nostalgic project into an exercise in gatekeeping and fussiness over precise definitions and examples. I'm not even going to bother explaining what the name Frutiger Aero even means, because the mere fact that the name even requires an explanation is an acknowledgement of its failure” -
J.J. McCullough
To be fair, I think it can be a bit difficult to make generalizations about generations in terms of online activity, since the anonymity of the internet often makes it impossible to know someone's actual age. I suspect there are a lot more 30- and 40-year-olds on tumblr than many people realize
That being said, this is a pretty good description of hyper-online people
Micro-genres have been a thing for quite a while, specially in regards to music.
Like many other things, it's a millennial phenomenon that is being painted as a zoomer thing for some reason.
Got too real and chose violence at 1:59 ...
...grimlight corepunk -wave
They got those Xbox live auto generated usernames for genres
dude I love michael punk
I'm more of a "Watching the video one month later punk" myself.
This is why I use tags for categorization. Genre is useful in broad scopes, but aaaa
Someone put a rap beat over the roommate every time they say the name of a genre.
Can anyone recommend a Paleopunk novel? Sounds like my kind of thing...
Not sure what it would even be but it's eighter coolest stuff ever written or crime against humanity.
@@petrfedor1851Crime against humanity.
Earth's Children by Jean Auel, beginning with The Clan of the Cave Bear. Stop there, the rest is slop.
I watched La Guerre De Feu about ancient hominids warring over fire. Would that count as Paleopunk?
I haven't watched it yet but Out of Darkness is a horror movie in the Stone Age
Are there slasher novels? Is that a niche subgenre? Like what if 80s slasher but book? I do actually want that
Yeah, that definitely exists. There's no way that it doesn't.
...Yup, if you google for "slasher horror books goodreads", you lists of hundreds of novels, and "slasher horror books reddit" gives dozens of recommendation threads.
The Final Girl Support Group by Grady Hendrix but that's a self-aware genre deconstruction. There's also Final Girls by Riley Sager.
Both are considered "Domestic Noir" crime fiction.
Only if you have a strong stomach: Frisk by Dennis Cooper got a movie adaptation in 1995 and it's still my favorite book in his George Miles Cycle (5-book series) -but it's controversial and gruesome far beyond the genre-typical slasher horror violence.
So I would recommend first his short story collection titled "Wrong", read Introducing Horror Hospital because that's the only normative short story in there...and then, if you really must, read the rest and find that most of the characters will be serial killers (among many many many other crimes, tragedies, and evils).
@@poe.and.theholograms ah, thanks but something more on the fun and camp side of slasher fiction might be better for me
Not my genre, but looks like if you google for recommendations, you can find plenty. There's many a Reddit thread about slasher book recs.
Reject subgenre
Embrace Gonzo/Slipstream
More importantly why are all these genres "tech/style-punk" named?
We teached wrong those authors about what punk means as a joke
Not anymore, now it's all -core -wave and Dark [Aesthetic].
It was mostly due to cyberpunk having a distinct setting style, and then steampunk stole the -punk suffix while incorporating no punk elements, and then when variations like dieselpunk and solarpunk came around, they did the same thing. And then everyone else took -punk just as a suffix to indicate a distinct world style, which is mostly what it still is in writing today
@@RBlue118 Steampunk started out with punk elements, and so did/does Solarpunk ua-cam.com/video/SFEFWl67fLA/v-deo.html
In that Book Club, the Art of Categorization attained such perfection that a genre of a book occupied the entirety of a chapter.
In time, those Unconscionable Genres no longer satisfied, and the Categorizers Guild struck a Genre of their Book whose size was that of the Book, and which coincided letter by letter with it. The following Generations, who were not so fond of the Study of Categorization as their Forebears had been, saw that that vast Genre was Useless, and without some Pitilessness was it, that they delivered it up to the Inclemencies of Sun and Winters.
This is all because of fanfiction. Fanfic is written not just around genre, or even specific tropes, but to include these hyper specific story beats. Sometimes they have a made to order aspect because they can be made to order for a request or contest. People have taken that sensibility to fiction now
Yes! Also seem to be a thing from Booktok (book tiktok) discovering Wattpadd and stuff. They treat tropes as genres
I disagree, I think it's because of marketing trends in traditional publishing, that still have much more power and influence than fanfiction writers. It's not the fault of fanfiction that marketing for mainstream traditional publishing houses chases trends they don't understand, to use in the worst ways.
For example, I looked up silkpunk and found two answers from author Ken Liu (Three-Body Problem, Grace of Kings) who coined the term, about what it really is:
1. Silkpunk is NOT steampunk but make it Asian. It is organic, blurry at the edges and has a flow. The technology and poetry are the same.
2. The publisher made Liu make up a label, so he made it up at random. It doesn't mean anything. This author personally hates labels.
The term silkpunk had nothing to do with fanfiction. It's only how the industry did its thing, and now nobody running the marketing department of those publishing houses knows what they're doing.
i am forming a grudge against red-shirt.
Trust me, all stories about mushrooms have fun, gi 😉
Don't you hate it when your gothic post-alt-singularity plasticpunk paleospace hard fantasy medium sci fi soft-detective marimba players to friends to candy salesmen to basset hounds to Italian potato chips novel has them be glockenspiel players instead of marimba players first?
This is why I read "science fiction" xD
"Even the cover of the book gets it right" omg 😱 i spend so much time thinking about how the Shrike on every book of the Cantos has a different but still not even close depiction of the Shrike compared to the description in the novel. I have been thinking about it for 20 years.
"What are these words coming out of your mouth?" 😂😂😂 At 1:18 is like.... I though that MY personal subgenre simply called "SCUBA-punk" was weird😅 and I like to see that there are... Well😅 ever Weirder ones!
Oh my 😅 have writing felt low or high?
I'm reading my hyper specific genre fiction Derrick!
this video is actual gold lmao
Remember, there were no such things like isekai, dark fantasy, high/low fantasy, etc... Those things were just a fantasy genre
This skit makes me miss the Big Bang theory. Serious Sheldon-Leonard energy