Rusted Ridgid Generator Tank - Neglected Generator Repair / Red-Kote Fuel Tank Liner / Wiring Issues
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- Опубліковано 27 бер 2024
- I recently picked up two generators and a lawn mower for $100 each. According to the seller, they should all run with a little TLC. Last week we got the Honda EU2000i running with little effort. This week we dive into the Ridgid Generator. It looks to be in good shape, but found a lot of problems related to the fuel system. The tank is rusted, fuel filter clogged, leaking fuel valve and the carb is a mess. Also the electrical system has been tampered with. Will it run and make power? I think so. Lets find out.
Part 1 (Honda EU2000i): • Honda EU2000 Inverter ...
Part 2 (Ridgid RD903600): (this video)
Part 3: (Recycler Lawn Mower): (coming soon)
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It’s a shame how some people just let their equipment go to hell. I’ve never seen a carb that bad, holy cow!
I agree. Some either don't care or just don't know enough on how to take care of it. They just need to read the manual or watch a YT video.
Yeah and this was a 3-fer. Three machines for $100, none working. I'm sensing a pattern for this owner. The other amazing thing is how someone can do something as simple as remove that front panel and manage to replace it with multiple screws missing. I see missing fasteners _all the time_ even in my own new-to-me house, which is only 17 years old. Maybe it's something like animals marking their territory...😎
Looks like that machine sat outside a long time, to get that much water in it.
If I would have had teachers like you I would not have quit school
Seeing the carburetor, I was thinking that this was a parts machine. You and mustie1 are both thorough and explain what you are doing. Thanks
James, I love your videos and learn so much. Each time you have a new video I must watch it ASAP. I’m a master electrician. Your replacement 30amp twist lock receptacle can have the screws removed for ring terminals, their just made that way to not back all the way out but will screw back in. In addition I wouldn’t call the GFI a “breaker”. It doesn’t check for too much current draw. All just FYI!
Thanks for the info. Usually I can get them out, but these were really tight. Was pretty sure they would not go back in.
This had to be the worst carburetor I’ve ever seen on your channel. It amazes me how you can bring it back to life. Well done!
James, on the European cords BROWN is HOT, and BLUE is NEUTRAL.
Easiest way to remember: Touching the hot is gonna make your pants brown…
In canada our code says brown is neutral. Blue is hot. In industrial blue is c phase in 3 phase power. When used in single phase we have to identify it as white.
@@khrisvaughan7145 Khris, I think you are only partially correct. In Canada only WHITE is recognized as a neutral wire. The brown lead on a EUROPEAN cord is NOT neutral. It is true that in 3 phase power, blue is designated as a hot, but that's ONLY in 3 phase power, Remember that he is dealing with a EUROPEAN line cord and not something manufactured in Canada.
Have been enjoying your shows for quite some time and gaining much knowledge! My wife thinks you're a bad influence on me as I usually end up buying a new tool after watching your videos. The endoscope looked real handy and Amazon just happened to have a flash sale + 5% off making it $56.00 bucks, so it's coming Monday. Keep up the good work!
James, just thought, you need an old paint shaker for all those tanks you clean out, put some ball bearings or nuts & bolts, would make quick work of that.
Problem is that you need a sturdy can. I'm a tinting machine technician and use paint shakers in our workshop to clean filters and other components and I have had more than one can ripped up when shaking heavier stuff.
Hand tool rescue guy used his evapo rust for years and it was black and thick and it was very effective. I think he just replaced it in the last 6 months. I don’t think the staining will affect anything. I used 2 bottles of evapo rust radiator flush with water in an old caddy for a week and it looked factory new inside.
I wonder what the Evaporuct chemistry is to dissolve ferric oxide (red rust)? Phosphate solution?
@@johncourtneidge From the evaporust faq sheet
"A) EVAPO-RUST® works through selective chelation. This is a process in which a large synthetic
molecule forms a bond with metals and holds them in solution. Most chelating agents bind many
different metals. The active ingredient in EVAPO-RUST® bonds to iron exclusively. It can remove iron
from iron oxide but is too weak to remove iron from steel where the iron is held much more strongly.
Once the chelating agent has removed the iron, a sulfur bearing organic molecule pulls the iron away
from the chelator and forms a ferric sulfate complex which remains water soluble. This frees the
chelating agent to remove more iron from rust."
Thanks for the early morning video James!👍
Redkote. Make an adapter from air hose to fuel line. Attach to fuel outlet and reduce air pressure as low as possible. Once the final coat is done the air flow will keep fuel outlet open and introduce fresh air to the tank. I LOVE REDKOTE.
Recently used Red-Kote on another tank and accidentally clogged the fuel outlet pipe:(
@@jcondon1 I'll wait for the video.
I've got a 35 gallon tank that has rust in it. It is a large tank made of thick steel walls and is on wheels, with large hand crank reversible vane pump.
Can redkote be used in a large flat walled/bottomed tank like this?
It cost a small fortune and I'm about to give it away since when I last tried to use it, the rust jammed the vane pump (it's toast) that sits on a 2 in? pick up tube.
Surgical precision/repair. Amazing "simplicity" which reflects incredible expertise. I loved anatomy but struggled to view the brachial plexus and decipher all of the neurological "connections" coming out of the neck. God's efficient design but complicated for my mind. Whew!1 Boy, do you make it look easy! Your "analytical " skills also impress. You suspected a GFE connector malfunction and then "logically" figured it out. I would have been afraid to turn the power back to "ON>" LOL.
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Ah, I remember those days in gross anatomy. Thought it was complicated too until neuroanatomy!
That evaporust is not used up. Do not throw it away. Filter it and keep using it. It takes a long time to use it up. Also, It is not evaporating the rust, it's converting the iron oxide into ferric sulfate. The black you see on the surface is just carbon. During the reaction carbon is kicked out of solution and deposits on the metal. No big deal, just clean it off. Again, filter and reuse your evaporust. Also, the warmer the evaporust is the faster it works.
This. Was just coming to post. Evaporust lasts a long time. :) just run it through a coffee filter.
@@stazeIIGood to know. I bought a 5 gallon pail of Evaporust a few months back, but I have not put it to use yet.
@@erik_dk842yup. The king of Evaporust is HandtoolRescue. Watch his stuff. They also explain on their website how it works, the black coating left behind, etc. :) it’s _mostly_ magic. It does get nasty if there’s paint on surface.
You mention the restrictions on disposing of bad fuel, what about used sump oil ?
WoW, what a great come-back from the dead. Your great at these resurrections. Thanks for sharing your talent.
James, look at you go..Took forever to get to that magic UA-cam algorithmic number of 100k subs and you're already closing in on 200k. Good for you man!!!
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I have used "Red Kote" in the past, and placing a small light bulb 10 or 15 watt over night will harden up the " Kote" to fully cured usability
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Hey James I really enjoy your videos and your passion for repairing generators and other equipment. I have learned a few new things from watching thank you. Be looking forward to the next video.
You put a lot of effort in your videos. It really shows 👍
That fuel looked like what Mustie1 calls morning pee yellow.🤣🤣🤣
Thursdays my new favorite day of the week. Thanks Jim
Nice video James. Your methodical approach and attention to detail are exceptional. I am and glad to see you try Red Coat. I've seen gas tanks made from scratch lined with Red Coat for leak protection and it's a very viable method to seal in unremovable dirt rust and debris. You could also use compressed air blown into the tank filler using a rag to help seal the air pressure to push the thickened Red Coat out of the bottom of the tank in stead of using vacuum. Also Too, an isolation transformer or an autotransformer may make a generator a viable and reliable source of power for some sensitive electrical appliances, like TV, Radio, Computer, Microwave Oven etc. One last thing: As a child I observed a neighbor running his car engine on a bottle of Gumout carburetor cleaner. He had a bottle specially made for doing it hanging from the hook on the upper hood feeding the carb directly. He told me he'd run the engine until the carb filled full of Gumout and shut it off. Then perform all sorts of maintenance items like oil change, sparkplugs and what not befor he'd reconnect the fuel line to the carb to let the Gumout dissolve the varnish deposits within his carb. I have done that with my lawn tractors and generators that have the Onan 2cyl engine by filling the carb thru the vent tubes and found it to cure any issues I had with surging almost entirely. ben/ michigan
Hey James, if you want to agitate these tanks with your nuts and bolts inside, consider strapping them to a lawn tractor tire with the tractor on jack-stands and low gear engaged. Maybe not OSHA approved but way less of a workout, LOL. Cheers!
Thanks for another great video James.
Great troubleshooting James and that red coat was very informative 😊
Hand Tool Rescue (UA-cam channel), is a great advocate of Evaporust and his barrel is full of really dark dark brown product, but it still seems to yield great results! Like yourself James, he's pretty fastidious! Ask him about it's properties because it's not cheap stuff! 😕 I'm sure you'll find him approachable!
James, another excellent video - I have heard of these fuel tabk coatings, but never seen them applied - very helpful. Thoroughly enjoyed the content. Best, Peter.
Terminal connector. You nip a bit out of the top of the connector enough so that you can slide it in and secure the screw.
In Europe, this or a similar cord with exactly this wire cross-section has a rating of 16 A 230 V. And with such a load it works great. For all equipment with switching power supplies, it is completely unimportant which contacts have phase and zero, especially since European household sockets of type C or F are non-polar, the plug can be inserted into them in any orientation.
Once again another fantastic video with lots of useful info👍👍👍👍
Awesome job.....Learning a lot from your videos.
Hey James I use one of those prong loaded punches for marking and center punching holes it works great on removing those stuck pins the jarring motion helps break it loose and is small enough to drive it out
Nice to see you got a long shear for cutting the gas hose instead of the Dykes, it does make it much easier. Nice video, it would be nice to revisit the tank to see how the Coating is holding up over time. Great video as always James.
Nice work!! I’m going to try the Red Coat on an old Generac tank. Thanks!
Man a burn barrel is how I deal with my old/bad fuel it works great haha
James, If you're like me I get the most satisfaction from scavaging enough good parts from previous jobs that you're able to throw away the 'carcas' i.e. the faded control panel front. Then say 'that was worth saving'.
James, I believe this just might make your Hall of Fame collection. That carb! Your tank reconditioning is next level stuff. Makes me wonder why they make metal tanks anymore. My old Briggs generator tank is plastic, but the new Honda is metal. I don't think mine will ever have a rust issue but surely note worthy. Great video!
Some generators are wired up for independent or job site use. In that case if you tap into your house the neutral and ground are bonded together at the main service. This will trip the GFCI every time. Someone disconnected the GFCI so it will work on a house. The GFCI wants to see all the power return on the neutral but on your house some will come back on the ground and trip. That’s why it is disconnected.
Thanks
This is most likely the reason.
@@Rorschach1024 yes and there are other reasons like you said “most like”. Maybe he wanted to run an old tool leaking to ground.
I agree with this. Another option is that maybe that's a 15 amp GFCI, and the former owner was using it with a 20 amp load, like an air compressor. So it was tripping constantly, and therefore was bypassed.
This is what I was thinking. Some generators have two pole GFCI and all the outlets are covered including the120/240v twist lock and will trip if you hook it to house. In that case you take off the ground jumper in the gen. panel. That’s ok because ground is bonded in the panel. Jim’s generator would have the same problem with the small outlets but not the larger 120v/30a.
Hi James, good video. alcohol may be a better choice for water absorption and it is much cheaper than acetone.
Rich
Good work especially the fuel tank looks great..!!
Great video. I've run across 2 tanks now that were rusty. I feel your pain. I used a cam shift and broken cylinder with a rubber box for a shaker table. Slow motor.. Rubber box is to reduce nuts/bolts noise. I need a gyro device to spin the tank. My .02 cents
from the UK you are indeed an inspiration
Nice fix James. That will be a good unit for someone. Love the THD on those machines.
Enjoyed the video. Thanks for sharing
It's cool that you tried out a tank lining product. I have seen other techs use it, and I thought it may have been something that could help on your projects.
I do believe that was the dirtiest carb I've ever seen, I like these generators, very very clean power and seem to be made pretty well, as always great job
I am glad you could save that generator. I watch a video a person cleaning a gas tank by putting nuts & bolt and tie it to his tractor tire and drive around for a while and the tank came clean that was a good idea
It seems as though the “Gel” protected the metal inside the carb possibly
Thanks for another great video
Great video as always. I have heard to many bad things about the redcoat. I considered using it in my 48 year old sailboat tank. I ended up replacing the tank. Nice work!
Hi James love your videos, ok here it comes , you should have a ground wire from the frame to a ground rod just to be on the safe side of things
Hi James - great video. Those plugs you referred to are known as kettle plugs in the southern hemisphere as a rule - the wiring has the same colours. Have you ever thought of making a rotational tumbling device - similar to that used to make rotational moulded plastics - it would be a great way to clean your tanks while you carrying on with the repairs - just a low voltage motor off a mobility scooter would be ample to control the rpm and a frame and straps to secure the tank.
Good move on the Red Coat ! I have been using it for years.
Wonderful work!
I've used diagonal cutters to cut a small slot in ring terminals allowing them to be slid under the screw head like a spade terminal. Thanks.
Thanks for showing the red kote.
I have always like that style of generator with the Subie engine. Still wished they made them that way. The quality was outstanding.
Should have replaced the badly rusted circuit breaker nuts with the ones that came off the panel you dismantled. Nice save on the fuel tank.
James, considering all the machines that you repair,
You should consider buying a box of paint filtering funnels,
You could use them for filtering everything that you want to clean or check for debris
Glad to see you are using one of those flat bladed rubber fuel line cutters! Way better than diagonals! Nice clean cuts very easily.
Also years ago, we had a tank coated with something, an old Onan telco gen that has very rusty tank.
Not sure what they coated with, but it was like a rubbery coating, fuel proof I’m sure, it was even as bad as had some pin holes in it.
It never leaked or rusted any for the rest of the time I maintenanced it.
James, sometimes we feel that landfill is becoming a waste ground of potential (and potential profit). It's good that people like you prevent this from becoming so.
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Nice job Jim ..
Nice looking Generator 👌
That old gas looked like orange crush! Runs like a top now.
When I was younger, motorcycle tanks were often treated with "Kreem" which I recall would flake off. I personally used POR - 15 but I also now hear average reviews of that. Never heard of Red Kote here in Australia.
I like the Caswell epoxy tank sealer. works well for this and most other gas tanks.
Will have to try something new next time.
Thanks for showing the tank liner process. I have been very curious how that turned out.
Right.. because that has never been shown a few hundred times before.
@@Look_What_You_DidNot on this channel
Nice job, James
I allways shut the fuel off and drain the carb evertime I use it.This makes life much simpler
With a few windshield wiper motors from a junkyard and a little creativity you could make somthing that rotates a fuel tank for an extended period of time
Another interesting genie save. I have a Predator with a metal tank but always try to run it out of gas after doing periodic testing but you can never get all the gas out. I'll have to take a look the next time I use it to see the condition of the tank. it looks like Red-Kote is effective but a lot of work and it ruined James's brake bleeder.
Build a shaker, or tumbler for gas tanks. An old cloth dryer makes a good one. Just disconnect the heating element. Drill holes through. the drum to suspend the tank in the center at four points solid cooper wire. Number 12 should do.
I agree, any appliance or machine that rotates and has the torque can be used. Would make a great video in its own right
@@drshrempy352 Small domestic electric cement mixer works well, ratchet strap it to the mouth or to a paddle inside if possible.
If a block of wood is used to lift one side of the tank away from the drum, the tank will oscillate in all planes for complete coverage inside.
Wrap the fuel tank in an old comforter and stick it in the dryer on a no heat setting
Colours in that flex are indeed European, and also standard in Australia, New Zealand and other parts of the world. Fixed wiring colours in A/NZ is active-red, neutral-black, earth-green/yellow. Some of those cheap cords are very bad. Aluminium or steel clad copper and I found one with a ‘makers join’ made by twisting the cores together inside the sheathed cable!
I've seen them with shorts inside the plug. It's quite something to just plug in a cord for a PC into the wall, turn it on, and have the circuit trip in a commercial office taking out a whole room of data entry.
That cable, you're right, is unusually thin... but IEC C13/C14/C15/C16 connectors are specified for no more than 10A (max 15A). The issue is that US appliances tend to use them for 20A loads.
The C13/C14 connectors are UL rated for 15 amps at 125V and are _never_ used for 20 amp loads. The fatter C19/C20 are used if that much current is needed.
I’m always amazed at the work you do, and the amount of knowledge you have. Always excellent work and content. My one question or respond is I’m surprised you don’t use compressed air or spray carb cleaner in all the passages to make sure they’re cleaned out. Maybe you do that off camera…. Anyways cheers to you and thank you
A lot of times I use carb spray or wd40 off camera. The advantage to using a liquid is that you can see if it’s clogged.
Just a “what if” comment. When you did your first initial test engine run, what if you had plugged in shop light to the other outlet, you would have thought the generator was not making power and you would have chased down other rabbit holes. Who would have thought that the device was not connected… any way, I enjoy your videos, thank you for making these. - Wayne
I wish I had. Hate bringing stuff out for the final test, just to find something I missed. I likely would have figured it out the same way. The display worked which would have told me the generator part was likely good. Otherwise the multi-meter would have figured it out.
Very well done. Thank You.
Seems like someone could do well reproducing tanks for Rigid power equipment.
Super nice work!
Also every one is rusted. The issue there is that every Ridgid model also uses a different tank.
Another great video James. Hoping sometime in the future you will install an after market propane conversion kit to one of your projects. There are a few out there but there is a need for someone like you to show from start to finish.
I did on a similar generator: ua-cam.com/video/TReTACsS2cM/v-deo.htmlsi=KF8g5Y7LdObsHGzb
Well done keep up the good 👍
Loved when you were testing the generator outside I could hear wind chimes. The person who put those up must not be a fan! 😂
If I remember correctly he posted that his neighbors are not a fan of his hobby. But he tries to be accommodating. It looks like he lives in a fairly rural area.
Another beautiful repair. I wonder if you have seen Abom79's Evaporust tank. Just a cut off liquid shipping container. Immersion heater to speed things along. I think it would submerge a whole tank. Covered when not in use. Of course it must cost a fortune to fill. And takes up floor space. And submerging would probably hurt stickers and paint. No free lunches...
A couple of good points James made on this one. Why would someone bypass the GFCI outlet and make sure the GFCI is properly connected to the line from the breaker and that the second outlet is connected to the load side of the GFCI to maintain proper safety. Thanks James!
Someone probably bypassed it because of nuisance tripping. This usually equipment with excess leakage current. Some examples are fridges with water in the defrost coil, power tools with partially conductive dust in the motors, or motors with degraded winding insulation.
This one got the full SPA treatment, it must be feeling well.
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The GFCI was disconnected either the power equipment had a leaky neutral, or somebody was using the generator on a primary load panel, where the neutral is bonded to the ground.
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I echo your comments on the gauge of the power cord. I wanted to test a laser printer that did 11x17 paper, so the fuser is bigger, so I grabbed the first power cord I could find. Then printer powered up ok, but when I did a test print and the fuser started to warm up, the power cord started to smoke and melt. So, yeah, make sure the power cord is of the correct gauge for the device being used.
20 AWG, approx 0.5mm2. That's good for 5-ish amps depending on the air temperature, giving over 1kW in 230V countries which is more than enough for a PC or TV or even a small laser printer (either a PTC heater or a 500W lamp in the fuser). Going to be of limited use in the USA at 120V, could still run a moderately decent PC or a TV though.
The weird thing is that it's labelled in AWG and claims to be American type SVT cable. When I've seen similar dodgy cables they're labelled in mm2 if at all.
Grab a pound or two of small drywall screws for cleaning the tank... Works wonders!
Someone must have peed into the tank.
I never have seen so much water in a tank.
Best work and video... it's James.
I see that you threw out all the stops and went back and used the HF degreaser on cleaning the carb. Another great video, thanks
The cleaner appears to look like 'Mr Clean'. In some previous videos, it looked like he was using 'Dawn Platinum 4X' dish soap, instead of HF.
On another video someone said they use diluted Simple Green in their ultrasonic and it work great.
At 22:14 a good rendition of 'Lets twist again!"
Yea at 2:43 you will notice a dirt dauber nest come rolling down the intake filter housing.
Drywall screws are great for getting rust out is a tank. All those sharp points really attack the rust.
From my experience, people disconnect the GFCI outlets from generators when they wish to use a suicide extension cord to power a house through a 120v outlet instead of using a transfer switch. The reason is because the GFCI usually trips when you try to use one.
Another possibility is someone using a defective or dirty tool that had some leakage between power and ground and bypassed the GFI rather than repair/replace the tool. I've seen this happen, especially when working in a damp environment.
Electrically a suicide cord is the same as a standard home transfer switch, the issue is the duplicated neutral bond. Removing the bond in the generator is the proper solution for this usage.
@@rjp-bd4mc Wouldn't it just be easier to use a grounding adapter plug? The type that lets you plug a grounded plug into an ungrounded outlet and has a seldom-used grounding tab.
@@eDoc2020 Although I agree that the concept is the same, the safety isn't. As you probably know, a transfer switch only works by cutting down power from the grid. If you use a suicide cable and forget to turn off the main breaker, you are in for a bad time.
Nice video and job 🙌👍👌😊🍀🙏
i think i try that red kote for a older gas tank i have. that you can't find anymore. thanks for showing how to use it, & what you think on it.
Mr James thanks for your time to teach me how to make work : Javier a live on Miami
They should put a vent turn off on the gas cap to keep water and air out when not in use.
Like Honda has on there EU2000
As always a 👍 to great video. Suggestion; based on how often you need clean tanks, you should make a dedicated rotation device that you can leave running while you do other repairs. Wiper motors run at slow(er) rpm's and are pretty powerful-and the speed can be controlled. I searched: "Wiper motor speed reduction method" and found no shortage of means. Just a thought. God bless.