Troubleshooting Generac 10000EXL Generator No Spark and No Power Output on a Briggs V-Twin - Fixed
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- Опубліковано 1 січ 2020
- This 24 year old Generator 10000EXL generator has not run in the last 8 years. The seller told me it was a fuel/carburetor related from sitting around. But that was not the case. The wiring was a mess. Everything from the ignition back to the control boards and stator output where connected wrong. Watch as I go through everything trying to fix the mistakes made by another.
Of the 100+ generators I have fixed over the last couple years, I am extremely impressed with the build quality of this machine. It was well built and cared for. Have no doubt it will last another 25 years, assuming I can undo the damage. Because of its age, locating parts for the generator side is difficult.
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I would definitely feel more confident buying a used generator from this dude than buying a new one. This guy is a guru for sure.
I agree, at least you would know that it's the best it could possibly be
I have a brushless diesel unit that lost power, I was going to just put a complete new head on it, but after watching many hours of his content I might actually try and fix it.
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Not going to lie, these videos are strangely addictive
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Very informative if not educational
Aren't they?!
Yes they are.
They are well made and show what pride in your work looks like.
Hello James,
I wanted to echo the positive comments from your many viewers (students). Watching you troubleshoot these problem generators and fixing the combination of normal wear, breakage, and human error is very enjoyable. Your thorough explanations of the problems with your final solutions are worthy of any technical college in the world. Thank you for taking the time to share all your knowledge and expertise!
Doc Sav .. You Got that rite !!!! The Man is good !!!!! Great job Keep it up !!!! And Thank You Very Much...
And the Academy Award for "Troubleshooting a Portable Generator" goes to James Condon. Congratulations James!
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This was the equivalent of the Electrical Murder on the Orient Express. A who done it!! Great detective work unravelling wires that were connected wrong. Just the best.
Thanks! This one was a real mess. Not because of how it was built or designed, but someone really did not know what they were doing.
Jim, I was a GE gas turbine technician for the local utility, for over 20 years. Generators tend to be older, because they are sometimes rarely used, but the run hours are low. Therefore, many times when a part or more over, an electronic component goes bad, you find the problem you had...." not made anymore; obsolete" . TIP. : When you hit a dead end like that, call the company up, and ask to speak to a senior technician. They will usually be able to refer you to an alternate part. Once, the guy sent me a replacement / alternate part free....!!!!
Great Advice...
Dude, i work as a small engine mechanic in SanDiego CA, and let me tell you that u are beating ur self up too much. U are a magnificent detective 🕵️♂️!!! U are an amazing mechanic!
Thanks, appreciate that.
Jim, I must give you accolades, for your ubdying tenacity. The way you went through that sauerkraut of wiring, and spotted the coil reversal, was amazing; Bravo....!!!!
Nice to see that your son is interested, I grew up on a farm always helping my father fixing something, to this day fixing something is my profession and hobby.
Hi Jim, I just watched this video. You were very detailed and patient. You take away much of the intimidation of working on these by process of elimination. Fatherly skills are to be commended also by letting your son be a part. Great job
Too bad he goes about it all wrong. Maybe he just wants to show how many tools he has...
Just how stupid did a prior person have to be to rewire it completely wrong? Incredible. And excellent diagnostic skills!
You don't have to be stupid to make a mistake. A great many discoveries have been mistaken, not stupidity.
We were all new one time or another.
@@user-ui4iv8dz3w There is new and then there is being aware you have no idea what you are doing but do it anyway. The wise person know when he does not know.
I think messing with electrical wiring is foolish unless you know what you are doing. Its unclear why some of the wires would have been touched in the first place. I commend James for spotting the coils were mounted backwards. One thing he did not explain is why there are diodes in between the coils and the post that is connected to the ground.
I believe in one of the videos James stated his dayjob, not sure if he is an engineeror computer programmer but his diagnostic skill is very good. I also wonder what he is going to do with this unit since it needs a board no longer available. There are people that repair pcb's. That would make it sellable.
Interesting video.
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I appreciate your perseverance on a very nice unit. It's tough when you have to figure out the mistakes other people have made. It's also nice that you admit your own mistakes and what you have done to rectify them. We all do it and have to back track or go a different direction..
By far my favorite of your generator repairs. I appreciated you leaving the length, showing your mistakes and following through on everything. I laughed a little, I cried a little, but really enjoyed it ;)
Really enjoying watching your videos, great content and excellent commentary/explanations. This kind of work has to be a real pain to film, tremendous job showing all the hard to reach places. I need lessons
Thanks! You also do an excellent job explaining and filming. I love your videos.
You are very good and thorough. Enjoyed the video. You are easy to listen to. Thanks for sharing.
Sherlock Holmes at his finest. Unreal.
You sir are one of the best keep secrets on UA-cam ! Keep the videos coming ! From a new subscriber. You showed great patients & determination.
Thanks! I think UA-cam woke up.
You were backed in a corner, a few times, but you never gave up....Persistence paid off in the end!!!! Great job!!! Love your videos..
My dad always told me son if it’s broke It can be Fixed.And you’re living proof of that you’re awesome
Just got this same machine yesterday, bad stepper and probably the board also. Parts are not available, I'm just going to run it off the mechanical governor. Thank You for the video, I learned alot about the machine just watching you.
This is just what is needed for partial rv backup. Operates the ac and stuff perfectly. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxOTeIs0vv4_9B5hsmnLsk9r930uDQLu_Y is quieter than my rv generator. Only suggestion is that it needs a fuel shutoff valve. So it is easier to store.
Just now saw this video Doc., I was on the edge of my seat for this one, it was challenging. Learned alot.
lol, it is one of my favorites.
Sir, This is my second watch and I really enjoy it. You amaze me in the systematic way you trouble shoot. The electric side can be very difficult to trouble shoot and at times very confusing for a rookie like me. Watching you going step by step with PLAN allows you to discount possible causes. You are the surgeon of small engine repair :-)). Thanks agin!!
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I cannot believe a video about a generator could have so much suspense! Thoroughly enjoyed this work through on this generator!
Thank you!
So dense with information! You are a bit of a geek! I just learned a shit load and I’m going to watch this several times to try and absorb all of these troubleshooting strategies of yours. I work at a small engine shop at least currently I do and there is no way my boss will let me spend this much time on one unit. I showed the power was coming out of the generator and through the voltage regulator and he was happy at that point and told me to stop diagnosing! He didn’t Want me going any further. Thanks for this and nice job!
Hands down the best generator channel on UA-cam! This was generator was a mess, nice job!
James Kmenta thanks! It was a mess. Glad nothing was damaged beyond repair.
Try mustie1 hes good too!!!
Yeah this guy is very sharp. Just found his videos, I’m addicted to watching them all!....Keep them coming!
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WOW, how many issues can you have on one piece of equipment!! Great job figuring out all issues!
Excellent fault finding capability and very logical approach. Well done!
Knowing how involved these things are and how touchy they can be is a good lesson for people who don't know what they're doing. Don't mess with things you don't know anything about. Find someone who does. I'm trying to figure my equipment problems with no training. I'm glad you're around!
I am trying to wrap my head around what occurred to get the wiring so wrong. The generator was so clean that it makes me wonder if someone restored it and had to rewire after taking it all apart. I always take pictures before.
You are an inspiration because no matter the expectation, the "fix" that isn't the fix, you are not set back and just continue to analyze and diagnose. I really like your adherence to the Scientific Method.
I can't wait to see the next video. Being a old man an retired, I love watching these because he gets these generators in not working conditions and he fixes everything on them Correctly. A Huge Thumbs up for you Buddy. I am so glad that I found your channel the other night. God must have been smiling at me and said here you go little buddy watch this guy's videos because he and you are both perfectionist in working on stuff. Thank you all. God knows how much I love excellence. Quality videos.
Guessing a shop gave up on it and the owner passed it on. The good condition made it easy for the sellers dishonesty to be easier to be missed. Good job staying with it!
You deserve a medal for this one! 🎖 Excellent works/skills!!
Thank you very much. It is very amusing for analyzing, problem solving steps. You should be a great instructor. Thank you
Someone tried to restore that generator, and did a great job on 97% of it all. You went in and found all their mistakes. Another great video.
Your understanding of the diodes is really good. They are everywhere nowadays. People
will often hook up a battery backwards and "pop" goes the diodes...
Hi just found you ! I’ve been working on a 8000 watt deville bliss with a 14 horse vanguard. I bought it in 1999 and left it in my dads shed. Needless to say it had fuel in it so carb was trash. So I took it to a Briggs and Stratton dealer who quoted me around 700 bucks to fix ! I found clone carb on eBay less than 50 bucks and 7 bucks in fuel lines and she’s purring like a cat !
James you can indeed make a silk purse out a sows ear. Your knowledge and skill has no end, well done with this one.
Watching you Holmesing a problem has helped me think through things.Many thanks.
I have been watching a lot of your older vids . ENJOYING them as much as the first watch !
As you reconnected the electric start lead with your vice grips, I literally said "That's not going anywhere" just before you did, lol.
I absolutely LOVED this video. You are an excellent troubleshooter. I have an antique "DynaPro" 5500W generator (Model DP6000) that still impresses me. It uses no AVR, (you should see the simple wiring diag.), yet manages to output 126V no load, 115V full load and freq. varies only between 61-59 Hz. The old 11HP Briggs engine has a very aggressive governor that is probably the reason. Both phases AND the neutral (3 slip rings) come right off the rotating assembly (so is this called "a rotor", or "a rotating stator"?), with a stationary field...not at all how the newer ones are...
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I have the same generator. I injoy everything and appreciate watching you troubleshoot and figure out the problems. Watching and listening and taking good notes I'm learning.
My problem is a bad rubber grommet that seals/holds the fuel shutoff valve to the fuel tank and fuel coming out of the carb. vent tube.
After watching your video I feel more comfortable now getting to the carb.
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Thank you
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Don G from Fla. Watched you rebuild the carburetor and then adjust the valves on one of the generators last night It gave me enough information to tackle one that has been sitting for a few years gas tank rusted out after fiddling with it for I don't know three or four hours ajusting the valves cleaning the carb rebuild it the whole nine yard got it to fire up and running and it's producing electric I just wanted to thank you I'm a subscriber now and really enjoy your videos very informative Thanks again
Thanks. Glad to hear you were able to get it running.
Would you say it's inspiration also?
Fantastic work James, really enjoyed this and all your videos. I liked how you resolved the issues with this generator.
You are a true genius! Incredible patience. Awesome outcome. Thank you once again. Love and blessings from Ontario Canada.
Excellent methodical troubleshooting James!
Great channel. Very helpful I just picked up a generac centurion 15kw with lots of work needed,
can’t beat free. This video is exactly what I needed.
Free is the best. Takes the pressure off. Nothing worse then paying money for something broken just to discover it cannot be fixed.
Great learning video and appreciate your methodical diagnosis which whittles down the possibilities. Another thing which made my heart glad is your son having this record of his dad and him helping at your side... priceless! God bless you and your family.
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You do fine work! You really give a good narrative of how and don’t even throw a wrench!
Lol
Thanks 👍🏻💞❤️
After traking about 40 videos from this channel, i'm can declare, this was a challenge ))))
your electrical expertise and most of all .....patience is commendable!
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I must say , you know, All the trick of the trade. I've definitely learned a lot from viewing your channel. Thanks
Great video and troubleshooting skills! I'm impressed! Would have liked to see how you mounted that board though. Keep them coming!
Very good vid. I like your style, very clear and owns up to mistakes. I’ve never really understood gensets, but you are making easy to follow along. Thanks.
Great detailed process and vey helpful!! Thanks!!
I just found your Site….thank you for how you explain in detail the things your doing….really like learning something new.
That has to be the cleanest molested generator I've ever seen.
Agreed. Looks new! But someone had their way with it.
Great show I watch for hours and I do watch for hours some people are really knowledgeable keep them coming
James, You're the best small engine tech here on TY, BAR NONE. Great diagnostics, and careful reassembly of all mechanical aspects of these machines. Don't compare yourself to anybody else here repairing this small utility engines, the others are simply hacks.......
Thanks for sharing James, and family.
Mr Condon you have one of the best channels on you tube I have learned so much. Thank you for taking the time to make these great videos
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I like the way you go about problem solving and editing. I'm addicted,lol
This generator seems like the final exam in a master class generator repair course.
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I can never understand why People us the same Coloured Wire for both Pos & Neg but anyway you solved a mysterious problem, well done 👍
I always feel encouraged watching your videos...... I have some nightmare repair projects (Electronics)....... and seeing that I'm not alone having to take something apart a dozen times does me good
I can imagine. Wish I was better with that.
Anyone who buys a small engine should look at your video's in order to avoid the problems that you correct ..clean fuel and air and clean oil is all a small engine needs to live along life ..the most informative video's..
Man, this was a tough one. Great job done!
Sad so many people have Screwed the equipment up and then declared it cant be fixed and is Junk. meanwhile owners are trusting these people to fix or maintain stuff. Our country is Screwed. Not many thorough guys like you. Thanks John
Excellent information and very good presentation.
You sir are excellent at diagnostics ! :-) no doubt you know that a generator that sits for a long time looses its polarity and can be excited the way you did it . The reversed coils was an awesome catch. I think that in its self would put it out of time . Great video !!!!!! :-)
Be careful using portable generators ua-cam.com/video/I1jT3ANENvI/v-deo.html here’s an advice about how to keep your family safe while using generators. Just hoping you stay safe
Good troubleshooting skills. Excellent work 👍.
Great video, thank you. Just loved your thought processes, you could hear the cogs turning, well done. Greetings from the UK, a small island off the coast of Europe. 😀
Wow! You have done it AGAIN! Impressive
Well Explained. Excellent training and trouble shooting. I Will watch again, as I work on generators, to help trouble shoot the systems.
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These videos are informative, educational and most significantly, they are for real. Troubleshooting is tricky and this is how its done. Hat off!
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Awesome video, I watched it like I was watching a movie on tv, closely following it every step of the way awaiting the final scene. Looking forward to more of your videos.
This was a very good video. I have watched several of your videos in an attempt to learn how to fix my own. With your help I now have four working generators. A Mikuni for the Subaru EX30 was giving me fits. Also a Nikki on a B&S 10HP, Thanks to your videos They all purr now.
Glad to hear. The Mikuni’s always fight me. Easy to get them 95% but hard to get them perfect.
The starter fluid idea was brilliant it started my generator
You are a genius, the best videos I have ever seen keep up the good work and get yourself a work table I can’t see you working on the floor.
Thank for for sharing your knowledge.
Wow what a great video!!! I learned a lot THANKS SO MUCH I HAVE A PARTS GENERATOR THAT I THE EXACT ONE YOU GOT THAT USED BOARD FROM I converted my 6500 generac 6500 mega force to electric start!!!
Great video!! I love long videos!! I can really see how extremely time consuming it is to correct others crap!!
Really enjoyed this journey on this one - from this side of the screen at least its enjoyable. Thanks for making these - I have picked up a allot of knowledge from your vids.
This is the best video yet. You're the goat in this line of work. Thank you!
You are a patitient man for sure. Someyimes I imagine folks are selling you badly messed up "honeypots" just for fun to freak you out, but you pull it through every freakin' time - hah! Love your videos, they have become my favorites, really appreciate your calm and always analyzing attitude..
I sometimes wonder the same thing.
The wiring diagram says it all.That is how you figure out what needs to be rectified!
Was that an intentional pun?
Wow great job! Undoing someone else's mess can be the most challenging thing to face!
Thanks, though it was a simple case of old fuel. Boy was I wrong.
I just recently found your videos and they are pretty awesome. In this one, I think the reason the left side was not sparking initially was because the spark tester was grounded to the valve cover. Otherwise it probably would have acted just like the right side. Keep the videos coming!
Holy smokes, kudos to you for sticking with this comedy of errors until the very end ! At first , I wasn't going to watch the video due to its length, but I was intrigued with your trouble shooting skills and professionalism so I stuck with it. Thank you very much. Also enjoy the audio and video quality of all of your videos. : )
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Thank you for for this wonderful video. I am having similar problems with my generator. I'll be using your video as a guide to troubleshoot mine. Thanks again.
I hope Your Children carry on this tradition!
Nice detective work, good to have a accurate schematic to follow , had a lot working against you ! Thanks for sharing !
this guy really knows his stuff, thumbs up
10k continuous. Wow that's a nice compact unit for it's capabilities!
That is one of the cleanest generator engines i've seen in a couple of years. The only electrical work i do on generators is replace the outlets. I never touch the wiring itself
Thank you, Generator Whisperer
That's a pretty awesome generator! Would love to own that unit!
Excellent, excellent video. You found a diamond in the rough once all of your detective work paid off. Hats off to you👍😁. That generator is built like a tank. You also have a great demeanor and speaking voice. I learned a lot from you. Thanks for making this video. You found a new subscriber. Great involving your son as well. 👍👍
Glad you enjoyed it. Definitely would compare it to a tank. It is a well build machine. Wish they were still that way.
That’s perseverance right there! Great job, what a mess that wiring was👍👍👍
This was like a 15 round heavyweight fight, wasn't it?
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11:40 pm
Just finished watching, covered quite a few issues, very thorough,
Thanks Jim
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