I'm ADDICTED to my Porsche Taycan 4S Cross Turismo! - 9000 Mile Full Review
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Welcome back to RBR guys & this is my own #Porsche Taycan Cross Turismo. Last time I drove it on the channel it was the German Press car Cross Turismo Turbo S that top gear had half destroyed off roading it. And what a car it was! The aggressive super wagon looks rivalled even the RS6, and the massive speed and practicality won us all over, so much so that I bought one and you guys viewed the video almost a million times.
As of today I’ve done over 9000(!?) miles in my 4S, in mere months as my combustion cars lay gathering dust.
Why have I been so addicted to it? What makes it better than my other daily #supercars? What did I love and what did I hate? These are some off the questions I’ll answer in todays review and report on living with my first #EV from Porsche, so let’s get to it and review my cross Turismo 4S!
So as a reminder - the two-tier Performance Battery Plus used in the Taycan Turbo S comes as standard in the CT, it’s just under 100kw size and it can charge from 20% to 80% in 20 minutes!
At home I use the CTEK Home Charger, as seen in the video:
www.ctek.com/u...
The electric motors used are Permanent magnet synchronous electric motors, or PSM. These are always alive and give much higher output without overheating vs systems used in past Teslas. The 4S has a 600-amp pulse inverter which is our motor on the rear, and a 300 AMP inverter on the front too; and of course the 2 speed gearbox, 1st gear is mainly used in Sport or Sport Plus modes.
Technical Changes Vs the standard Taycan include a more off road and yet more compliant suspension, using a three-chamber air set up giving a wide range of spring rates & heights. The rear is way larger, we have 47 mm more headroom and a boot with 40 litres more and the all important hatchback - I’ll give you some storage tips on this.
The more important thing is perfoance however, here the 4S Cross Turismo has 490HP on the road and then overboost and Launch Control of 571. They say acceleration 0-60 is 4.1 seconds… this is a bald faced lie! Wait to see the launch info here.
Having done 9000 miles, I’m gonna focus on my experience with this car as my first electric vehicle. That means telling you guys all the things I discovered, things I loved, things that really irritated me, and in general why I’m sold on the Taycan as a product.
As an example, PCM in Taycan crashes with black screens a lot, so I give you a Debug screen fix to help owners. I discover how Lift mode is really useful, how to clean the rear camera which was not obvious (neither way vent control inside) and find an amazing dynamic ambient light option!
The main point I wanna put across, is how I feel living with this versus something like an E 63 or the M5 - which is where I see this car fitting! Today we explore:
- Taycan Cross Turismo 4S
- Performance Battery Plus
- Permanent magnet synchronous electric motor, or PSM
- 600-amp pulse inverter and 2 speed gearbox
- Technical Changes Cross Turismo Vs Taycan
- Suspension
- Internal head room and space
- Boot space
- Charging the Taycan at home
- Public charging
- Things I love and hate
- Interior review
- How to fix Taycan PCM issues
- Taycan Electric Sound
- Launch control
- Full road test
- Conclusion
- Taycan GTS
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You bought a great car!
Thank you for this review, a great experience it was... I FELL IN LOVE WITH THE CAR, WHEN I FIRST SAW IT on internet !!
Honestly, I’ve been trying to convince my wife that this HAS TO BE our next car. I was lucky to drive it for 30 mins one day & I’ve never felt the way I did about any other car ever! It is quite simply, THE SEXIEST car on the roads at the minute. It is pure filth.
It looks like a hot wheels car
it's bad, it's electric!
I convinced my wife. We just can’t afford it lmao.
@@wrends yawn. the future is now, old man
@@jobic4207 What u on Grandma, electricity older than fossils lol. It was a fadddd.
Very interesting to see professional reviewers do reviews on cars they own. This took longer than I was hoping (since the collection video) but it was worth it. Should help people that are looking to make their Taycan decisions too.
Agree with pretty much everything Rez said. Have been running a very similarly specced car for 12 weeks and it’s epic. Speed, Comfort and at home charging make it unbeatable. For reference … drove a 2008 911 Turbo shortly after Taycan delivery, never haven driven any 911 before and felt they were pretty evenly matched for pace despite the huge weight difference
Love this car. My wife has had a 4S Cross Turismo very similar to yours on order since December 2021 - fingers crossed we'll have it in a couple months, and it will be our 6th Porsche. As they say, there is no substitute. It's the first EV so good, I actually want to drive it because it's a blast! That is not something I could say before. Love your channel!
Wow you're rich
Raz, the Taycan can charge Level 2 up to 10.4kW using 48Amps at 240V. I’m sure that home charger of yours can support 7.6kW if you had 32Amps available. You probably only had a 16Amp circuit.
As for Ionity you can certainly get up to the 270kW charging, I generally see 265kW if you start at less than 10% SoC. I have 28k miles on my Taycan 4S, enjoyed your review.
Up to 11kW actually, its three phase 16A
@@akacicaa this! 3.5 wtf….
And on IONITY. It’s up to 350kw.
And my Taycan charges as fast as 250 when the battery is low (sub 20%) and warm (35 degrees).
To be fair; it slows quickly after it gets over 50%.
Recently at IONITY I went from 13% to 60% in 14 mins.
yep, last summer in Germany, Denmark and Sweden we got 250 kWh from empty to about 55%.
Drive it on sport plus before charging warm battery and below 30% it charges quick
@@simplydegen you don't need that, just use the Porsche Nav, it warms the battery if necessary
My father owns this car to and we’re both addicted to it aswel. The fact that you can drive 160km/h and you just press the gas and it keeps going up is insane.
"Press the gas" haha
I've just got the 'boggo' Taycan 4 Cross Turismo, but would agree with your analysis overall. I;ve done 4k miles now and the comfort and refinement, combined with the performance and handling capabilities are simply epic. Addictive. One small drawback: I'm just waiting, patiently, for the OPC to get my bike rack.
Likewise I am fully addicted to my Cross Turismo 4S, it truly amazing. I am fine with range, it forces you to take a break, the charging is acceptable, in fact mine only seems to slow down around 75%, but a break is good and allows you to chill out. It is solid, adaptable and the performance is amazing and most of all, I have enjoyed all 6,400 miles in 5 months. Some people comment about the control system, this is a car for driving not being driven, the systems in place are perfect.
Sounds like you've justified its shortcomings. We call that cognitive dissonance
I love it when cars I drive force me to take a break
At that price point, BLACK SCREENS ??? There is ZERO REASON to need a PCM / Engineering “Reboot”…. Turn car off and come back after 45 MINUTES??? C’mon Porsche that’s BS 🙄
I even love my humble i3 (despite loving great petrol cars, too; 718 spyder due in two weeks). I can't imagine how good that taycan ct is.
Proper automotive designers like Porsche & Audi (plus eventually the F150 Lightning) are going to KILL the tech bros' Tesla crap.
Tesla pioneered all of this. I had geolocated adjustable ride height in my first Model S… in 2015. That car broke 60 in 4.5 seconds, so slower than the Taychan, but the always full every morning, instant torque off the line driving experience is the same. Lots more internal space though, so more practical with 5 adults.
I don’t like Teslas minimalist interiors - feel they went too far with the yoke and abolishing indicator stalks. So these days I’m in an i4 M50….
Great review. I am equally enthusiastic about my CT 4S. I was unsure of whether I should have gotten a Turbo S but having recently done a week’s trip on the autobahn I don’t see that it would be necessary. Acceleration up to 240 km/h in the 4S is surprisingly quick, and then it edges up to 250 km/h. It’s one of the most comfortable cars I’ve driven at those speeds (I have PDCC, PTV, 21 inch wheels). The range suffers a bit so I had to charge roughly every 200 km, but that was better than I expected from an EV.
I was thinking this, why don’t you have a 7kw charger like 99% of people who have one installed at home 🤷♂️
Taycan is amazing ! I ended up going with the E tron GT for various reasons which i'm loving a lot but i reallt do apperciate all the Taycan models !
Man I love Porsche. One day I’ll buy my own. In Sha Allah!
He said" no. There are more important things"
Trust your natural talents Allah created you with invest time to perfect it and there you are Porsche!!!!!
They need to improve their energy density, efficiency, range, and charging infrastructure a bit more before I would get one. But I could see getting one around 2030. I agree the Cross Turismo is the best looking BEV on the market by far. The eTron GT looks pretty awesome too.
I am very awesome looking to,its amazing,so this porsche would fit perfect to me!
Great review!! "I don't miss my V8 rumble when I'm driving this car because its providing me something in replacement of..." That statement right there is the best explanation about why electric cars can replace ICE cars!!
It's even more of a shocker when you think for a second that the guy saying it is the the V8 guy!!!🤯
Your camera work, car angles on camera and editing is top draw for a UA-cam and you give me a good sense of what the car is all about 👍🏿😎
If you’re considering ordering a Porsche, rethink your expectations. I had my new turbo GT delivered early November. Ready to go except the Burmeister amp. I have been told it may sit on the lot for more than 2 months awaiting an amp because an incomplete car can’t be delivered. So, it sits on the dealer lot till at least mid Jan.
Why is your home charger only charging at 3.5kw?
It should be 7kw/32a.
3 pin plug is 2.3kw.
Hes either got it wrong or the installer has had to limit the charge rate, mite be the only circuit he could wire onto in a remote garage or something. I fit car chargers and you'd always fit the maximum power available
Raz I have the same car too but you have to mention some failures with the car.
1) Middle console is useless, really difficult to reach it.
2) The rear view camera is not good at all, you know Mercedes has that option camera pops in and out when reversing.
The Taycans rear camera gets dirty so fast no matter if you spill water on it.
3 I had problems with security alarm, always have to press the lock button twice as it starts to beep.
4) the car isn’t automatically locking when you go away from the car.
5) The app is not that good, is very basic compare to Tesla.
6) Shortcuts on the steering wheel aren’t that good neither, not possible to change music from steering wheel.
I recently placed an order for a Taycan GTS, and coming from a 2020 C63s, I've been having some second thoughts of whether I'll enjoy it without the roar of a V8. Your video gave me so much more confidence in my decision! Can't wait to see your GTS review 🚀
Congratulations, been thinking of going with the GTS myself.
How long you have wait?
@@CC-hy6se I placed the order in November, early July is the current ETA for delivery
@@AdityaChugh1 Oh right not too bad, no doubt they will put it back as you are probably expecting, hopefully not too long. I was informed 70 weeks for a 4s but that is through salary sacrifice scheme so not sure if lead times are longer for different places.
@@CC-hy6se so I’m from Toronto, even for me the original ETA was October, but someone dropped their allocation last minute and I was able to get an earlier slot. Hope you’re able to get something sooner!
I've had my 4S sport turismo for one week now and it is just so awesome to drive. My 10 year old son can't stop smiling on the school run!
My wife wants the new one. Cant wait for it to get here. I usually dont like the wagon look but this is stanced so nice.
All the comments under this video make me sad.. Seems like almost everybody in the comments have a Porsche Taycan but me.. Man I would love to be able to afford such a car. I have to do it with an VW ID3 for now.. I love it though, don't get me wrong. Electric driving is superb. But this Porsche is on another level... one day... one day..
Great review.. I think that Porsche under reports their acceleration numbers on the mid models as to not compete with the Turbo models.
I have looked on the Porsche website and cannot see the blurred out speedo option anywhere 😅
I liked it when you're describing your 2 year old's reaction, I get a similar reaction from my 2 year old when I'm driving my Model X Plaid, they love electric!
See his reaction in a v10 😂 but ye that mini van is quick but ugly and has very bland interior.
Nice looking car but still doesn't excite me like a petrol car. I know its fast but I don't see how an EV can make you feel the way a true combustion engine does. Well it can't I guess but at least Porsche are giving it a good shot.
Having had a 911 NA and currently owning a JCW mini, I picked up my CT4S 2 weeks ago, it does not disappoint. The sport sound, although gimmicky, adds a huge fun factor and definitely helps to add the emotion back in to driving an EV. I love mine. I too was very sceptical, I would highly recommend trying one out👍
Everything said in the video I can confirm. Drive one and you’ll see.
I drove one ☝️ and it’s sick 😷
The way I see it, on roads (not tracks) EVs are faster and more exciting. Instant torque and no transmission.
I bet petrol prices excite you bruv
Very informative review…having to use the touchscreen to control the vents cracks me up. The Germans still haven’t figured out how not to overcomplicate things. They’ve been doing it for decades.
Why is your home charger so slow? I thought 7kW was normal for home chargers on a single phase supply in the UK?
It should go up to 7kw on the CTEK, I haven’t gotten to the bottom of that yet!
@@RemoveBeforeRace it could be something as simple as a dip switch setting on the charger. Awesome car and video by the way!
Performance wise.. Crazy to see that 0-60 figures! Looks wise though.. Usually I would agree, but no this one doesnt do it. Front looks like a misformed Mclaren combined with a fish. Back looks like Merc EQC suv that just got slammed down. Not a popular opinion I know..
Thank you for your review, and this Porche is a thing of beauty.
I assume your home charger is 7kW and not 3.6kW
House mains can only charge at 2.5kW as this is the allowed continuous rating of a house socket, though 3kW is peak and as you say, if you get a EV, then fit a type 2 : 7kW charger and you can fill your car with about 100 miles on octopus electricity over 4 hours at very cheap rates - I get 5p/unit as an early adopter : so overnight it cost me ONLY £1-20.
If you fit a 3 phase house supply (quite rare for most UK homes), then a home charger can be 11kW for the porsche. Note that very few EV's support 3 phase charging.
For non EV drivers, please remember the 2 points (to reinforce the comments here) about charging...
An EV driver can leave every morning with a mostly full tank of "fuel", and rarely ever have to stop to charge.
An EV driver on a long journey can plug in , go for a pee and have 120 miles added, or have coffee as well and be fully charged. You don't spend extra time on a stop on a long journey.
Many say that rear facing is significantly safer and kids should be kept as such as long as possible, e.g. some seats can go up to 50 pounds (~22.6 kg) and 49 inches (~124 cm) in rear facing, some perhaps more. Some countries recommend rear facing until 4 years; some organizations say beyond that as long as possible to the limits of the seat.
If you switch to such using a convertible or all-in-one seat, I'm curious how is the fitment. For taller drivers and front seat passengers it might not work, but average height or below it seems maybe. I think such would be one criteria where some may find they'll only fit in a Panamera or Cayenne.
Thanks for the outstanding content! Recently purchased a Taycan 4S and absolutely love it. What an emotional driving experience that brings a smile to my face every time.
Great review! This, honestly, is the first EV I would consider owning. The looks are stunning and this is coming from a BMW guy who has owned every generation M3, including a G80 Xdrive currently in production. I just wish the price of these Cross Turismos wasn't so bonkers, though.
How much are they...?
I have a G83 M4 competition cabriolet. Just got my Porsche Taycan and I’m a BMW enthusiast- owned 8 over 15 years - I’m telling you - the BMW has my heart ♥️ but the Taycan is so special! Porsche is unmatched!!
Thank you so very much Rez for your fun, informative, and excited review. There is this general feeling that those who review have to be perfectly neutral. I say “hogwash” to that as long as all negatives and neutral are also pointed out. You did that too. As a result of this review I just subscribed to your channel. Thank you.
Such an incredible car. Looks great! Enjoy it man!
Raz...
Golf R - "Touch Screens are a nightmare, please give me some knobs"
Taycan - "These touchscreens are amazing, so intuitive"
🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
i run out of battery on my phone too often. i think i would have the same issue with this car :D
Best car ive ever driven!! Greetings from capetown
Looking forward to the Ioniq 5 N @ 0-100km/h: 3.5 secs. Something I could afford LoL. Love the Taycan for sure! Remains a dream.
What do you think of the drive difference between the standard Taycan (4S) and the Wagon version?
i sometimes go a full week without driving. what's the battery loss when the car just sits in a garage? i'm sure it depends on temperature, but let's say an average of 68 degrees in storage?
I didn’t drive mine all last week. Battery stayed the same👍
Good question, stays the same.
@@RemoveBeforeRace thanks - this was a big worry for me. this is now an interesting proposition.
Same here. No drop off at all. It’s top tech.
Love the plastic left on the charger screen, because why should we enjoy a nice clear screen when we can save the experience for the next owner
I've been considering getting a 2024 Model 3 Performance or a used 2021 Taycan 4S. What do you all think would be the better bet? Kinda concerned about reliability of the Porsche since it may be out of warranty for mechanical.
This review is just great.Love it. I am about to order a Taycan and have been tossing up between the Cross and Sport Turismo - now resolved, thank you! But what would be really helpful, if possible, is to know the specification of your car. Thanks
He's got a speed baby! Feeding his children baby food and horse power. I love it!
The exterior spec on your Cross Turismo is just perfect. What an incredible looking car. Shame you can’t get that wheel design on the GTS Sport Turismo though. Great review, love the Taycan!
This is the only EV I would buy, What a thing. Love it.
the CROSS version needs a nose lift????????
Visiting my brother from Australia who lives in Wilmslow and your car is literally like the Toyota corolla of the area. Everyone and their dog has one and I've literally started saying corolla when I see one. What also is amazing is the nose dive in value. Yikes!!!
Finally! Been waiting a long time for this one. 😄
You've got one hell of a sick looking car there absolutely love the white and black combo especially with those wheels 🔥
The rear axle steering seems to work wonders for me. The car is so long. But i was able to park at my condo space which is hard to park with just one maneuver. I couldn't believe it.
Awesome car. The one thing I don’t get. Is why is the torque so low? The polestar 3 performance is over 910Nm . I find that really weird
I just love them and you right, its all about looking back at your car as you walk away, Just wish Audi did the avant version, they will soon
This is so much better than the sedan in looks and practicality
I've got a normal Taycan 4S absolutely love it, I've never had the PCM issue though.
Funny because it had been a while since the collection video, I had assumed he was not having a memorable time with the Taycan!
One of the best and fun reviews out with in depth details. Awesome !
NOT apples to apples, but this T4SCT vs your MB AMG E63S removing the fuel factor? As a side note, can you confirm that the latest E63S will be the last E-class AMG V8?
Would you be able to share the build specs for your Taycan 4S?
How is it for parking and narrow UK roads without the rear-wheel-steering option?
its utterly horrific to drive in islington
width restricters are narrower that the car itself
I currently purchased directly from Porsche @ Wolverhampton a Porsche approved used 2017 Porsche Cayenne S E Hybrid - it roughly does 20-25 miles on electric only , £0 road tax , top spec with all options inc adjustable air suspension etc - absolutely loving it - for 40k I think it’s been a bargain . Just like many of you I’d love the car in this video but the prices need to come down . I think most electric cars are now too expensive.
What is the model of the alloys? They look 👌. I don’t see them in the Porsche configurator
They are the cross turismo design wheels in gloss black (only available on a cross turismo so you won’t see them as an option on the sport turismo or saloon).
Thanks for another informative video. They are also BIG FUN to watch. As to the specific model you bought, it is glorious. Well done and thanks again.
Understand that your wheel is on high gloss black, easy to get dirty? difficult to clean? how it looks like when is not clean?
So 150k+ eur for EV and your info system crash and you need to manually reboot or let the car to sleep and wake again?! Is this even serious?! For 2 years with my idrive 7 bmws I had only one crash, and so far with my MBUX none..
You are exactly right the designs of these new eq models are hideous but the design of the Porsche is amazing!
Personal preference, but I wish Porsche stayed with similar circular headlights for the taycan. Sharp car, but I’m not a fan from front. I’m sure the drive is insane.
I actually agree on this.
Disagree! I’m sure others would too. This is a head turner!!
@@Lifeisapartydresslikeit of course some will love it. Just personal preference- I don’t like the rectangular lights. Rest of the car is top notch
Great review. I have a macan gts and very tempted to swap my new macan gts order for taycan sport turismo, but worried about the width on real world roads
Bad@ss ... would take this over a tesla any day of the week ... porsche are so damned good ... nice video.
That's a lot of graphics. Subbed.
What are people’s thoughts on the entry level? I’ve just ordered one as a company car. I’ve added the driving packs etc.
Anyone who has one can you give me your thoughts.
RWD option
NBA on nbc intro is a classic.
Nice review. You have a lot of patience (and love) for a car with quite a few niggles TBH… Also, I guess it’s horses for courses regarding range anxiety, great to charge overnight for small daily commutes, not so great if you want to do long journeys (holidays to the continent… ).
A white car with black wheels? That's the best color combo you could come up with?
its funny how often the ionity or any other public charge fail to work. 90 percent of the chargers Shmee150 went to were not working. Its a headache
the wife is happy in there...the dog and the cat love it too.
Just seeing this car for the first time today . Quite impressive
end transition was nice. The price is so ridiculous that I can´t even dream having this
I'm in love with that car.
totally agree with you, the cross turismo is not only the best looking EV atm, I feel it's one of the best looking cars around, right now (not counting those exotic million$ hypercars xD)
Low range is still a dealbreaker, especially for a cross car. Once that is fixed, will be buying one
I like at 11:13 when he gives the charging port a tickle to open.
Amazing car.
But it's a Porsche. Excellence is expected.
Does that Taycan have a comfort mode that offers a smooth glide-like ride? I'm trying to convince my other half its the car for us.
I really wish someone would review a 4S to a GTS as not convinced I would notice the difference in the same way as a 911 gts to a 4s. I am also throwing a Tesla S long range into my mix as whilst it doesnt have the driving dynamic of the Porsche, the interior has markedly improved and the range is literally double the Taycan which is hard to ignore (and its more powerful in just base mode).
I am pretty torn between the taycan and the Tesla model S (base). I think the porsche looks miles better but the Tesla has amazing range and 670 hp which is quite impressive.
Love your work. But need to suggest a correction…. A properly wired all box like the CTEK should be able to charge at 7kw.
And a 13 amp plug at 2.5 kw. That’s with the Porsche charger. And is what I do with my CT4S.
Can you please do a review on the driving assistance package. There is so little information on it on UA-cam.
You got the right one man. And the white color suits EVs well - looks futuristic. 👍
This will be my and my partner's next car. I absolutely love it
Normal taycan for mi please..
And a AUDI RS6 WAGON on the side
Appreciate the video - I drive mine since July last year - I agree with your review same issues here I also miss to change my music tracks back and forward without using the screen 📺 yes, I have juice on the steering wheel but I use it for the sound and the other in front right I use for turning of the sensor sound going into the wash or pedestrians walking near the car on a crosswalk in the city-hello from Germany 👍
Mannnnn, I can't wait till you review the new BMW 7-series, specifically the i7. I can't believe you weren't on their list to get an early review model lol
Spoiler alert: he doesn’t like cars that look like vomit
11:13 Hehehe that was cheeky of u mate!! 😂😂😂😂
I’ve heard software updates could require an extended stay at the dealership as over the air is still a work in process?
Does the app work as a keyless replacement or do you still need a key fob? (Not talking about BMW key where you have to physically hold the phone near the door handle)..
Curious if the brakes last a very long time like Tesla’s do or if the regen setup of the German’s cause them to have brake replacements comparable to traditional ICE counterparts.
You had me at the start. That spec is incredible.