The nominal capacity QN is defined as the amount of charge delivered by a fully charged battery under specified conditions of temperature and load. The nominal capacity is therefore application specific.
I would immediately buy this if they had quicker charging, then the smaller battery is totally unimportant. Other companies are coming out with 30 minute charge times by now (Verge TS, the Fuel Fllow if their specs are true and the bike comes out next year as advertised). Over one hour is problematic when riding in a mixed group with petrol bikes, but half an hour is actually quite usable.
It's a pity it became so heavy. 3S to 60 is insane. Zero promises similair numbers for the FX but it underdelivers. Level 2 is great news. Do you know charging speeds in kW and battery capacity in kwh? It would be interesting to see how fast it can charge on Type2/Schuko (2,3 kW) for me.
what was the secret new feature that was whispered to you, now that the specs are released? BTW, 10.5kwh nominal is the battery size. LW1 is 15.4kwh. Del Mar battery is almost 5 kwH smaller.. hence the decreased range.
They have still not revealed the secret feature. I’m not sure why. It’s one of the coolest things about the bike. If they don’t reveal it by the time I get my bike, I’ll beg them to let me show it to you…
An incredible machine, granted. But a 43 mile range at highway speed? Not good. 2 hours and 22 minutes to fully charge. Really? 104 mph top speed…that rules out ever selling it to the sport bike guys, 0 to 60 time be damned. I’d love to see you dive deep on these massive technical obstacles. Is there technology on the horizon to address them?
These specifications are not obstacles for a significant segment of riders, so LiveWire is targeting that segment. The Del Mar is an excellent design for its target market. It’ll be a winner for Harley/LiveWire.
@@ChitFromChinola We’ll see. I don’t know one person who uses a motorcycle for urban commuting, which is the application it appears to be targeting. Maybe this is different in California, which could be the one place where weather allows year round motorcycle commuting. At the least, I agree Del Mar is a necessary evolutionary step in their product development. It is not reasonable to expect they go immediately to utility parity with ICE bikes.
@@DavidMcWhorter-w3o Utility parity was not the goal for the Del Mar. This thing beats ICE. It's just flat-out fun -- 0-60 in 3 sec with exceptional agility. And so easy -- no shifting, no noise, no searing hot exhaust pipes, no oil changes, no stinking gas stations, no oil stains. They'll get new people into motorcycling that would never go for the Harley or Ducati thing. I get the range issue, but no one is going to drive this thing in a straight line at 70 mph on an interstate -- that's a snorefest. Zoom around on twisty roads, smiling the whole time. When you get home, just plug it into the wall and the next morning you have a full battery. Rockin . . .
Thank you for sharing and putting together this great content.
Another excellent hands on review 👍
The nominal capacity QN is defined as the amount of charge delivered by a fully charged battery under specified conditions of temperature and load. The nominal capacity is therefore application specific.
The new website is a big step forward -- looks sharp. Good content, thanks for posting.
I would immediately buy this if they had quicker charging, then the smaller battery is totally unimportant. Other companies are coming out with 30 minute charge times by now (Verge TS, the Fuel Fllow if their specs are true and the bike comes out next year as advertised). Over one hour is problematic when riding in a mixed group with petrol bikes, but half an hour is actually quite usable.
So amped for the bike. It will be perfect for zipping around LA. Riding my Ducati with all the shifting and gas has become a chore.
Thanks for informative videos.
Any indication of likely delivery date for your Del Mar S2?
Thanks for the info Jack shared with the riders!
I know, looked at the specs last night, I’m guessing my reservation is late fall/early winter
It would be excellent if they come to Australia
I love what they did but I want an Adventure bike, big battery capacity and high Level 2… AND NACS connector!
It's a pity it became so heavy. 3S to 60 is insane. Zero promises similair numbers for the FX but it underdelivers. Level 2 is great news. Do you know charging speeds in kW and battery capacity in kwh? It would be interesting to see how fast it can charge on Type2/Schuko (2,3 kW) for me.
5.9kw peak charge rate. I’m going to do a video about this…
Is 435 lb considered heavy? A Ducati Street Fighter is listed at 440 lb and 90 lb-ft of torque
what was the secret new feature that was whispered to you, now that the specs are released? BTW, 10.5kwh nominal is the battery size. LW1 is 15.4kwh. Del Mar battery is almost 5 kwH smaller.. hence the decreased range.
They have still not revealed the secret feature. I’m not sure why. It’s one of the coolest things about the bike. If they don’t reveal it by the time I get my bike, I’ll beg them to let me show it to you…
@@freedomiseverything great!
@@freedomiseverything Flat Tracker Driving Mode ;)
What’s the difference between the launch edition and the regular production version that constitutes the big price difference?
paint.
Different plastics and rims
Upgraded tires, paint, and rims. Special VIN. Serial number in first 100. Special paint design.
Still way overpriced man !! The normal price I would buy and many ppl will buy is for $ 10,999 max
Lol It’s funny knowing all this before the bike comes out and watching it develop. It’s a dumbed down version of the One. I’m not impressed.
An incredible machine, granted. But a 43 mile range at highway speed? Not good. 2 hours and 22 minutes to fully charge. Really? 104 mph top speed…that rules out ever selling it to the sport bike guys, 0 to 60 time be damned.
I’d love to see you dive deep on these massive technical obstacles. Is there technology on the horizon to address them?
These specifications are not obstacles for a significant segment of riders, so LiveWire is targeting that segment. The Del Mar is an excellent design for its target market. It’ll be a winner for Harley/LiveWire.
@@ChitFromChinola We’ll see. I don’t know one person who uses a motorcycle for urban commuting, which is the application it appears to be targeting. Maybe this is different in California, which could be the one place where weather allows year round motorcycle commuting. At the least, I agree Del Mar is a necessary evolutionary step in their product development. It is not reasonable to expect they go immediately to utility parity with ICE bikes.
@@DavidMcWhorter-w3o
Utility parity was not the goal for the Del Mar. This thing beats ICE. It's just flat-out fun -- 0-60 in 3 sec with exceptional agility. And so easy -- no shifting, no noise, no searing hot exhaust pipes, no oil changes, no stinking gas stations, no oil stains. They'll get new people into motorcycling that would never go for the Harley or Ducati thing. I get the range issue, but no one is going to drive this thing in a straight line at 70 mph on an interstate -- that's a snorefest. Zoom around on twisty roads, smiling the whole time. When you get home, just plug it into the wall and the next morning you have a full battery. Rockin . . .