Deer Tracking Dog Training: How To Start Tracking with a Puppy
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- Опубліковано 12 сер 2019
- Deer tracking dog training is all about bringing out a dog's natural ability to track, and teaching them what to track. We start this by using liver drags, as well as the DogBone Game Recovery Kit. In this video, we have a 20 week old puppy named Arrow who we are training as a deer tracking dog. We will start by covering the tools we use to lay a track, as well as how we start teaching this puppy to track wounded deer. We will then show you this pup's first track!
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The video helped a lot
Found a dog in Texas in the woods. He was so skinny. Think he got lost. Anyway brought him home. He is trained to take down a dear. He jumped knocked it over jumped on top of it a help it down by its neck. WOW NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT. HAD TO HOLD THE DOG SO DEAR CPULD GET AWAY.
Thank you for helping me create this awesome bond with my blue heeler mix huskie DASH your videos are great 👍
I had my first season with a elkhound, I got this puppy from the pound. A friend called told me she had this beautiful German Shepard puppy that would do great on my land. Well I never heard or seen this breed, he was not a German Shepard, hes a Norwegian Elkhound. Again I never heard of this breed, I have used G shepherds before, great dogs. But this past season was Leroy’s first hunt, and boy am I impressed, this may be the 40th comment I have made about him. I will recommend this pup to any one who likes to hunt with pups. Great, pups
Oh yeah, they are great. Elkhounds were the Viking's hunting dogs
she is adorable!
I laid a first track for my pup (8mo old German Shorthair Pointer). I used a chunk of liver and a deer leg with tarsal gland. He followed the track easily, but had no interest in eating the liver. The only reward I had for him was praise. I though the liver would be a great reward, but he didn't want to eat it.
Just got my package in and my 7 month old German short haired hasn’t stopped giong crazy there nose is unbelievable
I liked this video a lot as I'm working with herders.
Thank you sir, I've got your kit headed my way.
Thank you for the support William! It is appreciated more than you know!
@@DogBoneJeremyMoore followed your steps. Sadi caught on really quick. She gets so excited when I break out the bumper. 🙏 loves it
Gonna start training my hound with your kit. Can’t wait man!
Thank you for your support Preston and don't hesitate to reach out if we can help in any way along your training journey!
@@DogBoneJeremyMoore Thank you so much! I’ve been starting with him and it’s going great!
Love your videos. Got an English Field Trial Labrador and it all started to come together after finding your channel. I'm from Belgium by the way. No hunter here would ever think of using a Belgian Malinois for deer tracking. The army and cops use them though
That's awesome and thank you for your support! let us know if we can help in any other way
@@DogBoneJeremyMoore Thank you very much. I've been thinking about selling your gear here in Europe. I have a webshop for cats and dogs and I'm expanding with all training related gear for dogs.
I thought I was the only person that uses a belgian malinois to blood trail. He's found several these last years for me.
I'm ordering your track training system for my 4 month old boxer...thanks brother
thank you for your support and let us know if I can help in any way!
Can you do an episode about if/how temperature, humidity, precipitation and other factors can affect trail scent?
I've got 2yo and 3 year old German shepherds I'm wanting to train to track deer. This video should help me alot
TN is a leashed tracking state. They also changed the law so you can legally carry a gun while tracking. It used to be you couldn’t, but I’m glad they realized how stupid that was.
I also have my dog taught that when his harness and lead get put on, he is working and he knows it. Glad to see that some of what we did trying to learn to trail people carries over to deer. I’m hoping it’s a pretty quick process since all i really need to do is get him to learn that i want him to track deer.
How do you keep him from following the human scent and to stick on the deer scent when you are dragging that skin that's what I'm wondering.
@@svtruthandpups.6218 You can put the drag line on the end of a pole to get it out away from you if that's a concern. I actually had a chance to put him on a real trail for a deer my Father-in-law shot. All the practice worked out great. The deer made it about a quarter to half a mile. We were able to track it down in less than 15 minutes. The trail was only a few hours old since i had him in the truck already. The last practice trail we did was around 18 hours and it rained nearly the whole time. It took us some time, but he was able to finish the trail.
I’m going to try and find ways to use the phrase “scent discrimination” in my conversation. I like that. Sounds provocative!
Awesome video man. I like your style of training and this is clean as hell. Enjoyed it a lot. Subbed
Thanks for the support!
Great vid! Can you train BM to indicate?
Great video
Thank you for the support Nicholas!
So we have a 2 yo collie and 2ish yo black lab golden retriever. Thinking about buying your kits for my husband's birthday. He asked me(the dogs' trainer) out of nowhere "do you think our dogs could go hunting?" I told him they'd probably love it and we could start training them together even if it's just for fun and they never actually go hunting. I'm excited for our hobbies to possibly meet up and work together haha
Awesome! Let us know if we can help in any way!
Info on the deer tracker kit buddy ??? Awsome video!
My one lab had babies so I kept one and he was tracking a 20 yard line of deer liver drag at 7 weeks
Nice 👏
Link me the products. I'll buy your stuff just because yourr helping people so much
I appreciate the support! ✊🏼 dogbonehunter.com/
Hi Jeremy! Love your YT channel! I am not a hunter but I taught my mixed breed different retrieving drills from your channel. She is a very talented retriever and loves this stuff. I have a new dog now too, American Pitbull, 2yo. She has a great nose and points naturally. She is not so much of a retriever. What are your thoughts on teaching her tracking just for fun? Thank you! Monika
She might like looking for antler sheds. It's technically retrieving but involves tracking. When training you put scent on the shed and they find it work up to real sheds out on walks it's like a surprise for the dog to find lol
Might also try some food puzzle training type stuff like they do for drug and bomb squad dogs
Have a walker 3 year old now put him on trail last season wound up being 75 yards he went straight to deer blind because I didn't know stood on top of deer bayed at me when I followed and got close was very proud how do I reinforce this year I praised last year any help appreciated
Very nice training
I have a three month old pup that is smart as can be. I bought the kit and all other necessities but it is February and season here won’t be open until October. Should I start training now or wait until closer to season so he can experience the real thing.
amazing!!!!! order and it has helped me a lot now i keep whatever i can from my deer kill!
Glad to hear it! Thank you for the support
@@DogBoneJeremyMoore you welcome you guys are my number 1 on my watch list!
Can an old dog learn how to trail blood? I have an older wolf hybrid, and I was wondering if me and him couldn't have a couple adventures before it's his time to check out. God bless.
My texas heeler is a beast.....is frantic until he finds the scented deer hide. He attacked a fischer last weekend in pennsylvania mountains at 11 weeks old😳
Sounds like it!
Have a 5 month old Black lab female that will be starting your program in Jan 2022. Just ordered your kit and scent bar. Thankfully I saved the livers from my deer harvest this year.
I also would like to train her for sheds using your program as well. That shouldn't be a conflict in training should it?
Not at all, dogs are capable of doing more than we give them credit for a lot of time... and much of it overlaps. As always, the foundation comes first and is the most important part. Without a solid foundation we can't do anything well. Here is a podcast episode we did that dives into this deeper... hope it helps!
dogbonehunter.com/podcast/153/can-i-train-my-dog-to-do-multiple-types-of-hunting-ep-153
do you have to get a dog that comes from a line of tracking dogs or can any dog do it? I wanted to get a dog that came from a line of hunting until i saw the price, just wondering if you can get any dog to do it or not.
You said you were in Wisconsin. Where about? I’m in central wi just getting into blood tracking
Do you put new blood track scent on the hide/bumper combo every time you do a training session or does it last in the bag for a few sessions?
It varies and depends more on scenting conditions than anything else. I typically will add some blood trail scent each time before laying down a track, but the amount I add depends on the scenting conditions, and the difficulty of the track I am trying to achieve.
DogBoneHunter thank you so much for answering my question!
How often do you track during the week?
Thanks for the video . Just wondering what kind of dog you were using in video?
This is Belgian Malinois.
for the other training like sitting and heel do you teach them that during the tracking training or do you do that out of that training?
We focus on foundation from the day the puppy comes home until the foundation is solid, check out our Bella... Be Good playlist and you will see how much foundation work we do. The foundation is the building blocks, and without it we cannot do the more advanced stuff down the road, such as tracking or any other form of hunting. That being said, we can do drills and tracks like we did in this video during foundation training.
Do you have to start with the pup at a young age when they don't have their obedience down, or can you get the obedience down first and then introduce tracking? Are those earlier weeks/months critical in developing a good tracking dog?
It really doesnt matter trained obedience helps way more
Obedience is really communication. You will want to continually teach your dog the rules of your home. SIT, COME, Down,off ect. You need your dog to understand you and visa versa. So I would say you start communicating. teaching Obedience as a pup. 3 to 4 months is the imprint stage, and they learn quickly.. so start Obedience as pups.
I have started training with my dog, we are on our second week & he does really well except for the fact that he gets very excited & zig zags on and off the trail, however he always finds his way to the hide. Is this something that I should be correcting while he is on leash or just let him figure it out as he goes? I’m afraid his excitement will cause him to just go through the motions as quickly as possibly to get that reward, without being thorough enough by keeping on the trail. Is there some way that I could make it to where he knows to stay nose to the ground on the trail the whole time? I.e. using more scent or doing shorter trails for a while?
Emily Adkins how long are you aging the trail before fracking with him?
DogBoneHunter we have only done a few sessions so I have been leaving them fairly fresh for him to start, only about 10 minutes at the most. He did awesome on the first session & was glued to the trail the whole time. He slowly started getting very excited with the next couple of sessions & I think he is just anticipating the reward at the end & not focusing on how he’s getting to the end of the trail, just bouncing around on & off of the scent trail sporadically.
My bloodhound doesn’t follow the exact trail that gets laid. I was training him to trail/track for SAR and as long as he is on trail I don’t care if he shortcuts the trail that was laid. Sometimes due to conditions they can shortcut trails by quite a bit. I set a trail for a hound that was being tested and he cut the trail by half. It should have been about a mile, but he cut the corner. Basically, you need to be able to read the dog and if it is on or off the scent. I wouldn’t force the dog to follow the path exactly. Also I wouldn’t make him keep his nose to the ground. They can pick up the scent floating in the air as well.
My question is how do you know he is not following the following the scent of the human and not the skin your dragging.. or both?
I have a 6 week old pup that I want to be a combo shed/tracking dog, I've been watching your Arrow series but have also been looking at your shed kit. Which kit would you recommend starting him on? Shed or Recovery?
I don't separate or compartmentalize training, particularly when it comes to "deer dog" skills. Instead, the skill sets overlap so much we approach our training virtually simultaneously, with the exception of some small specific details like antler shape and scent discrimination. My focus may shift simply dependent on the calendar. For example, the next opportunity to do the "real thing" will be tracking come fall. In that case, by the time July or August rolls around, we will shift our focus to be prepared for those opportunities.
Is it normal for new ones to have hair falling off on first dunk fresh out of package?
Will your blood trailing product also double as the scent gland of a wounded deer? If not where can I find a wounded deer's gland scent? Really appreciate your video.
road kill
@@chickenjoe1003 so that's a no? I've gotta find road kill to mimic that?
You won't need a gland scent. Any deer hide or something similar will work. Remember you're training the dog to find something you want it to find not necessarily a specific scent if that makes sense
@@lepraxronik your actually wrong . Deer recovery dogs actually track the interdigital gland. Dragging hide puts down entirely too much scent.
I have a puppy that just turned 13 weeks old do you think I could start training him now or should I wait a little more
NotaSmurf NCM my approach is to start training them the day I being them home and the training is never completed, instead it’s ongoing. I look at it like it’s raising a kid. I don’t set time aside to resist them, instead it is an ongoing and continuous thing. I think at a young age like that, my focus is almost 💯 on foundation building and I have to keep in mind realistic expectations.
hell yeah you can!!! I start my new puppy at 8 weeks she is doing amazing!!!!!
Can I get the hide you sell and use it to train even tho I will be hunting a different species of deer
And with the sent that you make I’m hunting Sambar so the sent u sell would be a different smell to Sambar deer so would it still work
From my experience, the tracking dog does just that. They track. It really is not specific to a single species of game. Instead it's a generalized concept of putting together pieces of a puzzle or clues when it comes to game finding. in a conversation with the president of the United Blood Trackers, I talked about that with him. He made the point of saying that he believed a dog could be trained to track and recover deer by using women's perfume in training. I was confused, and asked him what he meant by that and he simply said "dog's track because it is a natural behavior for them. All we're doing in training is showing them the game." When it comes to scent discrimination and sorting out clues, that is an inherent trait. Training and experience are the only what of develop that. The easy answer is yes, I think you can train to track on just about anything.
DogBoneHunter cool I guess I’m heading to your shop soon then
All this is not necessary. Use the lower part of the leg from the animal to make the track. I have done it with my dogs from when they are 12 weeks old. I work as a game warden in Sweden, and we heavily depends on our dogs to track injured animals, both from hunting and road incidents. I have done well over 1000 tracks of deer, fallow deer and moose. Never used anything other than the lover part of the leg to train my dogs.
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It is winter and I just got the kit should I wait till spring to start
No, you can start whenever!
How long do you soak the hife for the first time?
usually it takes no longer than 10 or 154 minutes, just long enough to soften it up.
I have trained my 5 year old lab, for last few years to track. In last 2 days I took him to track deer that where shot with 6.5 Creedmoor, wich produces very little to none blood trail. Both tracks it seems that my dog got onto heavy traveled game trails tracking them, possibly other deer. Don't know for sure because we never found the dear. First track was over 2 miles. Is the dog following deer in general not necessarily the wounded deer we are after. Am I doing something wrong? Both of these tracks the people walked all over the place trying to find blood track before calling me.
2 miles is incredibly challenging first time out. Even experienced dogs lose trails.
It was worth a go but I'm not sure you can be too hard on yourself over that one, can you?
I'd pick a better rifle caliber and give the deer longer to die. Wounded deer don't instinctually run for 2 miles, hell in my 2 decades of hunting deer I've never seen one run a mile. That is, without it being spooked and jumped up because of premature retrieval. I always give a deer 30 minutes to an hour after being shot.
@@chadlimber1319 wasn't me shooting I use 308 and never had one run more than 20ft, was called up by friends. By the time I had arrived was 4hrs that had passed. Had blood trail then nothing but drops.
@@LittleTed1000 all his training has been on scent and blood trail, think this year going to put him on deer I know are down, to build up his confidence and put it right in his mind what he is after. Beleive possibly mix signals for him.
We train with a wounded deer foot .
Is there such thing as a dog being “too old” to train to track blood? My dog is 4 years old and I’d like to get him trained if it’s possible.
You could train him as long as he has a good recall, is friendly, and wont run off track.
Hey Zachary, there is not. Especially for tracking, it is very natural and instinctive to most dogs breeds. Make it a game, practice, and get them some experience tracking.
@@DogBoneJeremyMoore We have an older labrador who has excellent retrieving skills and a true passion for it and also a good nose however he has cherry eyes. Be believe this somewhat impacts his vision when retrieving. He always finds whatever is being used however he doesn’t get to it as fast if he and his daughter are racing to retrieve. We have always thought he would be good at it. Do you think this would be an issue with training him for tracking deer? He just turned 7.
is this the bowmars dog?
Wait. Is this Josh and Sarah Bowmars dog?
And can you train them small
I'm not sure what you mean exactly by small, if you mean small as in young, then the answer is yes. Our training begins on the first day we get them, but it always starts as foundation first before we can get to anything else. Our Bella... Be Good series on our channel demonstrates just that. Thanks for the comment and be sure to let us know if we can help in any other way!
Is this dog josh and Sarah bowmars dog arrow?
yes it is!
What's the web page Addy to order this fine training gear?
dogbonehunter.com
Will tracking deer with a dog get them to chase deer that are not shot? In other will it get them to run deer?
This comes back to control, which is 100 percent foundation. The dogs can differentiate between different deer based on the scent, and differentiate between a deer that is wounded and one that is not. In other words, the dog is not just tracking any deer, but a specific wounded deer. If you have an issue with a dog chasing deer, it is not a tracking issue but rather a control issue. The tracking training has nothing to do with it.
Where do I buy this kit
www.dogbonehunter.com/product/dog-bone-game-recovery-kit/
I have the wolrds second best sniffer, And the worlds best snoozer, Wake me up when you bring back dinner
Is there a way to teach your dog to hold on a wounded deer so they dont jump them
Wouldn't recommend teaching this to a dog. You don't want your dog trying to fight a wounded buck that's much larger than it is. A deer that even weighs the same as an adult man is much different than an adult man in terms of resilience and strength.
Where can I buy the bumper he is using an the deer hide
What would it be called
You can find them all on our website! I'll attach the links below:
bumpers: dogbonehunter.com/estore/gun-bird-dog-training-supplies
Tracking Dog Training Kit: dogbonehunter.com/estore/blood-tracking-dog-training-supplies
Entire site: www.dogbonehunter.com
My dog sunny is a corgi mini issue can she hunt
Yes, almost all dogs can track. It comes very natural to them, it just takes a little effort on our end to shape it.
I don’t recommend wearing shorts when working with tracking dogs. Your putting off human dander which will teach them to follow human scent just as he is a deer track.
Joshua Cook I would agree, and in training with more experienced dogs I think that makes sense. This video was simply introducing the idea of the track to this pup for the first time and to be completely honest my objective is simply to make it a fun game to them and introduce a general concept. There were some scent clues involved along with simply chasing down the object visually. As we move further along in training I start to look at and take into consideration some of the contaminant aspects of the line. I don’t think we ever eliminate them completely but we can do some things to minimize them. 👍🏼
Have you ever had a mal before
I have not owned one, but I have worked with them. We did do a short series of training videos with one named Arrow and have it here on our channel. Check out the playlists and you should find it there.
She looks like a Malunions… As a former Military Dog handler with lots of experience with the breed.... They are a very high energy dog..... Match the training with the dog.... She would be a blessing for me..... I love a challenge.
Let us know if we can help in any way!
would a golden retriever be good for tracking in your opinion
Yes, almost all breeds have the ability to track, it's in their DNA!
Is a 3 year old trainable?
Yes, especially when it comes to tracking, age does not limit a dogs ability to track.
Was that a Mal or a shepherd?
Mal/Shepard mix
Is this a Malinos?
Yes!
Is a year old too old to start training?
Great lesson on tracking, thank you!! I really learned a lot. 😊 thanks. But it could be good for you to watch some videos on puppy training. They will teach you to quickly and easily fix the collar issue and sitting issue, etc. Basically, dont force it, and dont repeat sit,sit,sit... Have treats and pay your puppy EVERYTIME she sits. This teaches her sitting has value and she gets rewarded, so she wants to REPEAT act. Now shes learning. .I had to stop watching when the obedience was not understood, and puppy forced. Sorry. To teach the collar, give a treat everytime you try to put on collar, make it playful and fun. Take collar off and fo it again. She will begin to relax and except collar.. but keep treating
Not everyone has your dog. Plus when teaching new behaviors you never want them to have a bad experience
may I ask why you inhale sharply so much?
Oh…I suppose I’m not in peak physical condition these days? Happens to the best of us. #gettingold
My only hope is that’s not your only takeaway from our channel! 🤣
@@DogBoneJeremyMoore no its not just curiosity and a lot of speakers do that its probably just cause you have a lot to say
why is it illegal to bring a firearm bowhunting? Not intentions on using it at all obviously just in case of an attack. but why?
the gasping in the video really took me out of it.
Why so many deep sudden breathe?
Out of shape? possibly....
Learn to breath through your noise
Thanks for the insight Timbo
I learned so much through your videos and I wasn't being rude