A few of things. 1. The cutting board is to protect the knife more than the counters. The hard surface of the counter bends the edge of the blade over making the knife dull. 2. A dull knife is far more dangerous than a sharp one. With a dull knife you use much more force to make the cut. You force down trying to push the knife through what you are cutting. With a properly sharp knife you are gliding it through the material. 3. With a Sloppy Joe the peppers and the onion should blend seamlessly into the meat. To do this you need a much finer dice on the onion and peppers. 4. Cook the peppers and onions with the meat so that they become soft and meld into the dish. 5. English mustard is not a good substitute for American yellow mustard or Dijon mustard. It has a much sharper and harsher flavor. 6. While the sauces for Sloppy Joes changes based on where in the country you are, the sauce is generally closer to a weak tomato based BBQ sauce than anything else. A down and dirty version is ketchup, mustard, wash-your-sister sauce, garlic powder, salt and pepper as needed. Good job on your first attempt at making them. Experimentation is the key.
I was about to say the same about the cutting board and knife. Every time that knife hit the countertop I winced. Also hope that wasn't a non-stick pan he was scraping with that metal spoon.
I also don't know how sweet ketchup is in other countries. Ketchup in the US has a tangy sweetness that adds overall sweetness to the sandwich, kind of like a BBQ sauce would, like you mentioned. I also don't know if I've used mustard in sloppy joes. If I have, I've used it sparingly.
@@dan-ger6963 there was a television show here (US) in the 1960s that had a snooty English butler who, when he made these for the children insisted on calling them "Untidy Josephs"
Ketchup is not the same as tomato sauce. In fact you would do better to use tomato paste for sloppy joes. In the US, we are lucky to have Sloppy Joe mixes available. No need to mix spices or ingredients. I personally have never seen anyone put mustard in Sloppy Joes, but i'm sure someone has. Look for another recipe, Sloppy Joes are great sandwiches.
Back in 1987 I went to New Jersey and had a sloppy Joe for the first time and I was hooked on them from that point. Coming back to Ireland was heartbreaking because nobody here had heard of a sloppy Joe never mind had a recipe. Around 2002 I was able to find a pre-made and frozen sloppy Joe from a well known supermarket but they disappeared after a few months and never came back. I struggled to find a recipe so I decided to try making my own but being the guy that I am I don’t use measurements and just go with the flow. Personally I brown the mince beef in 1 pan and cook veg in a separate pan then combine when both are cooked. I then add about 500ml of passata (puréed tomato sauce), and then about 250ml of sweet bbq sauce, 2 tablespoons of mustard and 2 tablespoons of Worcestershire sauce and cook for a few minutes until the sauce thickens a little bit and Bob’s your uncle. If the meat and sauce doesn’t spill out of the burger bun when you bite into it then your Joe isn’t sloppy enough. The measurements given are rough estimates as I usually just taste test and add a little of what’s needed. It’s not a perfect recipe and probably Americans may say it’s not authentic but the flavour hits just like the original I had in 1987. Give it a go, you may like it 👍🏻
Hey, I sauté onions and green peppers, add the hamburger (minced meat), add a little brown sugar, catsup, a dab of mustard, and a tiny bit of vinegar. I never measure.
There is t really a set recipe for Slopy Joes. Everyone ended up with their own recipe. Yours sounds spot on. BBQ sauce is as acceptable as anything. Now we have canned mixes like Manwich or Sloppy Joe sauce by companies like Libby. Manwich is my favorite, but it is hard to find a bad sloppy joe
You didn't do anything wrong with that recipe, but virtually every American family or eating establishment has their own recipe. Some are horrific, some are incredibly good. Don't judge sloppy joes based on one recipe.
As a Texan, I have never eaten a sloppy Joe like you made. As a Boy in the 60s, was when it was first introduced in the can, and you just mix it with a pound of hamburger. And everybody loved that back them! You can still get the cans in our grocery stores.
you can buy Manwich on Amazon in the UK. Buy a can and try it that way. I think you will like it better. Also put a lot of it on the bun. After all, it's call SLOPPY Joe for a reason! Enjoy!
Next time dice the pepper and onion a lot smaller and put it in at the same time as the meat so it all cooks together. Even easier if you can find it over there just buy a can of Manwich or any other brand of Sloppy Joe mix.
Looks like you did a pretty decent job. Dijon is a little too strong. We used French's (the brand, not the country) Yellow Mustard. It's more mild. We always added a tablespoon of brown sugar and a dash of garlic powder too. Should be a little sweet, savory and tangy. Nice video 👍
Not quite so much mustard. Yellow mustard is better for Joe's. Add a tablespoon of brown sugar. Use red pepper for the color. You learn to adapt to your liking. Sloppy Joes should be very flavorful. I also use a slice of American cheese on top.
Always better with a bit of better, over here we call ketchup tomato sauce and that's what it looked like in the picture for the recipe and we would put Bolognese sauce on spaghetti, I was thinking of using red sauce which is used to make lasagna
Actually it has two common meanings here in the U.S. The tomato based pasta sauces and the tomato sauce used in general cooking which is somewhere between tomato juice and tomato paste. Depending on exactly what taste you’re going for I suppose you could make ketchup, pasta sauce or tomato sauce work in a sloppy joe.
Ketchup and bbq sauce both are high in sugar. Most recipes will probably call for at least half tomato paste or tomato sauce (the pre-made jarred stuff we pour over spaghetti). And the onions and peppers should be very finely chopped. We are trying to hide the veggies from the children getting their cafeteria lunch slops.
another way to toast the bun is to butter the cut sides then place the cut side down on a hot pan for a couple of minutes not long just enough to make it crispy and a bit golden on the cut sides, the non-cut side doesn’t get toasted
My suggestions would be: Leave out the mustard completely; add chili powder to the sauce and make more sauce. Let the meat, onions, and pepper simmer in the sauce longer.
We pronounce it the same way. How do you pronounce Dorchester? Worcester? These are cities in Massachusetts. Door-chest-er. Wuh-stir. And no, we don't usually toast sandwich bread - for sloppy Joe you want it to soak in to the bun.
Also, the flavor would be helped if you season your meat in the initial browning processs, or when you add the onions and bell peppers. Onion and garlic powder, salt and pepper at minimum. ,we season our meats. If the meat will have batter, we season both the meat and the batter.
Americans can pronounce Worcestershire sauce just fine, it's just that Brits don't spell it like they pronounce it. If Brits spelled it as it sounds, it would be spelled "wooster sauce"
This is almost a sacrilege here in the states, but we use it in a pinch if we are in a real hurry to make these. You may have it in the grocery store, but look for something called either "Manwich" or something I will use instead because it is more of a blank slate is something called "meatloaf sauce" and it is made by a brand called "Hunts." It doesn't have as many seasonings as Manwich does, so it is easier to use as a base sauce if you are in a real hurry. They both come in cans, and anything you don't use of the sauce can be saved and you can make all kinds of thicker dipping sauces with it. Typically, we will make our own seasoning mix from scratch based on preference, but it does take longer, so the canned versions I mentioned will keep for a while in the pantry, and you can tweak them slightly if you are in a real rush.
we usually use French's mustard for sloppy joes (the bright yellow stuff) it's a milder than what you're using. In fact, I knew you had a mustard problem when you coughed taking the first bite! haha! but you're right, it's all about experimenting and adjusting. I like to use some ketchup (because it has sugar and vinegar in it) and some tomato sauce (what you called puree) combined. We all ate this at school growing up, but you don't have that childhood benchmark that you must slavishly compare it to like we do, so you're at an advantage there!!
You can't use English mustard as a 1 to 1 substitute for Dijon mustard. Dijon mustard is mild and sweet. If you can't find Dijon a good alternate is honey mustard or just a plain American mustard. With any substitutions you should always put less then add more to taste.
Just dice your bell pepper up smaller and cook them and the onions in the meat together so there very tender. Use american mustard only and more sauce. You'll be fine after a few times making it.
There's as many variations as people who make it probably! I use canned tomato sauce NOT ketchup, a sauteed onion, garlic powder, paprika, soy sauce NOT Worcester, a molasses heavy barbecue sauce, a tiny bit of instant coffee, and Dijon mustard. Toast bread, lots of Hellman's and depending on my mood I add a little cheese and a little relish. I have used different sauce and adapted to taste from there. If you use the Italian style tomato sauce, it would probably remind you of a meatball sub, so olives and spinach are good. I knew someone who added other vegetables like carrots to the sauce. Google more recipes and make it your own 😊. Hopefully that makes sense, I'm sleepy.
I've used ketchup and tomato sauces. Ketchup is fine. It's just a matter of personal taste. 😊 I do like your suggestion for the coffee. I'm going to try that.
When we say "toasted buns", we mean puttong the cut side down on a hot pan until it's golden brown. You can butter it if you like, for better cooking. If you're using flat bread, you can put it in a toaster. Also, chopping the veg into smaller chunks would be better. I've not had mustard in a sloppy joe before. Tomato sauce isn't ketchup, it's pureed tomatoes in a can
Ketchup is different than tomato sauce. In my opinion, it was way too much mustard, usually 1/2 teaspoon or less is enough unless you really like mustard. (I use 1/2 teaspoon of dry mustard.) Did you add salt & pepper to ground beef when it was cooking? (Our ground beef has great flavor before adding anything other than salt & pepper, so I don't know how flavorful yours is.) I make sloppy joes a bit differently & also add a bit of brown sugar & 1 teaspoon of white vinegar & simmer it longer.
If you cook the meat at a medium heat then you can break down the beef finer and it makes for a better end product. Please get a sharp knife, you are more likely to get badly cut with a dull blade than a very sharp blade. Also never use a metal utensil on a non stick pan because you will be scratching off the coating into your food, its very toxic. Looks good 👍🏼
Fascinating stuff Dan-Ger. I’ve never made a Sloppy Joe before, used to love them as a kid in the 1970s. Damn fascinating cooking. Smell-O-Vision would improve this but I could smell the cooking, regardless. 👍
What we American's call "tomato sauce" is probably closest to passata except that tomato sauce has some seasonings in it such as salt, garlic, onion, etc. But, ketchup was a good call since if we make sloppy joes with tomato sauce, we tend to add in some sugar to make it sweet and a bit of vinegar for some tang. I've always got to pause when I read UK recipes that call for tomato products to figure out exactly what I need to use since we have different names for essentially the same thing.
There are different versions and then family recipes. Growing up poor, ketchup is def acceptable. Sometimes you add things according to your mood, chili, paprika, and cumin are good to add. We put mayonaise on the top end. The sloppier the better,, we put as much meat on as we think we can get away with :P Cooking the onions beforehand, frying in a pan to getthat nice carmelization brings it to another level.
I use less green pepper, and I cut peppers and onions smaller, and way less mustard. I use a salad mustard. And I use more catsup. And worstershire sause, and salt and pepper
Need a better recipe. Its supposed to be more sweet than mustardy. You are supposed to taste the sweet tang of the ketchup with the sautéed onion and peppers. Try it again until it tastes awesome then you will get why we love it. Better yet, come to the States and let us cook it for you. Authentic!!
English mustard is MUCH stronger than Dijon, so that probably wasn't a good substitution. I cringed every time you scraped the non-stick pan with the metal spoon, particularly when you had the appropriate spatula right there! Your knife appears to be dangerously dull. A chopping board and a trivet would be good investments.
If I used the spatula to stir it when it would have gone everywhere hence why I used the spoon and what is the fascination with the chopping board it's not like it's a thousand pound oak worktop
@@dan-ger6963not the countertop that worried me. It's the fact that a knife that's dulled and has nicks in it from hitting that countertop is more dangerous than a finely honed blade.
I don't like my strong veggies like onions, peppers so chunky but thats an individual thing. I normally just add onion and celery to my sloppy joe but green pepper would be fine too...just smaller chunks for me.
Tomato paste makes it sticky. Adds depth and flavor. On the other end of the spectrum, try mushroom soup, hamburger, onions, garlic, peppers well cooked - YUM City! Pickles ALWAYS welcome! With potatoes chips - GODLIKE!
Dan, invest in a damn cutting board. It will protect your counters, your knife, it's amazingly sanitary, and clean up in easy. I would never ever cut or dice anything on the bare counter. Maybe it's a european thing, I don't know.
I never seen slappy joes with veggies in it. It's all meat. I also never heard of mustard in it. But well done regardless. Toasting the buns is a good idea! I'll have to keep that in mind.
The meat is hamburger not mince. American make a pie with a jar of mincemeat which is a combination of dried chopped fruits and spices, sugar, nuts, alcohol all put in a pie crust. My parents liked it but I never did.
I knew after seeing the yellow tint of your mixture that you added too much mustard. That should have been minimal if not none at all. Ketchup is like the secondary to beef in a sloppy joe. Probably just a bad recipe you were following and I'd like to see you try again.
Try the "Not so sloppy joe" recipe and instead of ketchup, go with tomato paste or sauce, it's just supposed to be tomatoes, not the vinegar and sugar and all the stuff they put into ketchup. Or talk someone into sending you a can of the real stuff. ;)
I’m sorry your experience wasn’t proper. Great try though, I applaud the effort. The distinctive taste of the sauce, it’s color, smell are the foundations of an authentic Joe! Your recipe just seems a little off. Keep tryin, you’ll get it right.
I don't use veg at all. Just crumbled hamburger/mince & tomato paste, water, spice packet. Thich & luscious. On toasted buns, put meat sauce, top with cheese. EAT HOT.
Hey there Northern California here all I will say is I would have let it simmer some more it's suppose to be juicy but sticky like more of a hearty meat sauce and if juice and meat ain't flopping out the sides its not a sloppy joe, but still looks good, I'd add a bit of cheese to the top. Great Job though and hey if you like it who cares what others say
P.S. Americans would have something with that like fries or tater tots. Some people add other things to the sandwich or even put a slice of American cheese on it. The roll doesn't always have to be toasted either...and there are many types of bread as well
Tomato sauce is not the same as ketchup. Here in the states it comes in a small can. Frankly I prefer tomato paste and water. Cook the onions snd pepper with the hamburger. Needs garlic too
Try it again - use the recipe Servings: 4 servings 1 small onion, finely chopped 1/2 small green bell pepper, seeded and finely diced 1 Tbsp worcestershire sauce 1 1/2 tsp yellow mustard 1 Tbsp brown sugar 15 oz can tomato sauce 1 lb lean ground beef, 85%-90% lean 1 Tbsp olive oil ½ tsp salt, or to taste ¼ tsp ground black pepper, or to taste 3 garlic cloves, minced 1/4 cup water, optional, or added to desired consistency 4 hamburger buns, toasted if desired Cook ModePrevent your screen from going dark Instructions Finely chop the onion. Seed and finely dice the green pepper. In a bowl, combine the Worcestershire sauce, mustard, brown sugar, and tomato sauce. Place a large skillet or dutch oven over medium/high heat. Add olive oil and ground beef. Saute the beef for about 5 minutes until cooked through and no longer pink, breaking it up with a spatula. Season with salt and pepper and add in the diced peppers and onion. Cook another 5 minutes until the veggies are tender and beef is browned. Add the minced garlic and saute 30 seconds until fragrant, stirring constantly. Add in the sauce and bring to a light boil. Reduce heat to low and simmer uncovered for about 10-15 minutes or until thickened to your liking. Season to taste with salt and pepper and add water if you prefer a looser consistency. Serve on toasted buns for Sloppy Joe Sandwiches.
No catchup or mustard! Use tomato sauce in a can and chop up the green peppers and onions finer. Put a slice of American cheese on it . Much better that way my friend.
Maybe we say it differently because we spell it differently. And ketchup is not tomato sauce. Don't hate onions; hate your dull knife. You shouldn't have a crunch to the veggies.
This is the second video of yours I have seen. Where are you finding these recipes? You need to look in different places. Also, sautee your peppers and onions then add the meat to them. This way the veggies are cooked and blend better with the meat.
If you taste mustard, you did it all wrong. It should be closer to a very meaty spaghetti sauce with a hint of sweet Bar-B-Q sauce. Maybe you dont have Bar-B-Q sauce?
Anytime you cook meat you should season it with salt, pepper maybe a little garlic power, etc so the meat will have flavor. Then you cook the sauce around it. Ketchup is not tomato sauce, maybe you call it tomato puree'? The Dejon Mustard is a brown mustard with is not tart and bitter like the yellow mustard. I think if you tried it with some spices and the right ingredients, you may like it.
The people who decided to spell “wooster” with extra consonants in the middle don’t get to criticize anyone for being confused about how to pronounce it. 🤣
@@dan-ger6963 I can't stand the stuff haha! I was just laughing because you said we Americans can't pronounce Worcestershire (which most can't)... but if anyone was looking at the label for Worcester and wondering where you got the "shire" from, they'd be even more confused! I grew up near Boston and there is a town called Worcester, so it has never tripped me up. But you have to say it with the Boston accent: wuss-TAHH. 🤣
Three issues from a bloke who is native to, and still lives across the pond. First ketchup and tomato sauce may both come from a tomato, but the ingredient differences are substantial enough to change the final flavor. Make your own call, but know the difference. Second Worcestershire sauce is a popular ingredient across the states, and some of us do know how to pronounce it, but it may have different inflections due to our collective nation's ongoing problems with sharing a common language. Third these are not referred by all as 'Sloppy Joes'. There was a popular TV series back in the late '60s - early '70s that started the use of another name. The ensemble cast focused around the central family. This family then employed a butler by the name of Mr. French and he called the sandwiches 'Untidy Josephs'. Que sera sera.
What ever that was it was not a sloppy joe. The onion and pepper chunks were way too big and way too much! You want tomato sauce or better yet some canned diced tomato (and dice those to tiny bits) and tomato paste... Whatever you do Do Not eat Manwich
You probably used the right amount of mustard, but dijon is more sweet, and you used a more spicey mustard. If you try again, this change will make a world of difference. Enjoy.
You did great. You can season the meat more with salt, pepper. garlic salt, onion salt. Instead of chopping the veggies you can use a cheese grader so they almost disappear in the meat and add more flavor. Taste it until you have the perfect taste, some people add bbq sauce and mustard sauce instead of Worcestershire. I think you shouldn't add ketchup. I once added ketchup and this very picky guy said, " did you add ketchup?" I said, " yes." He didn't eat that day. He was a very good experienced cook. I never added ketchup again. I add mayo to my bread and a slice of cheese. Most stores now sell thin plastic cutting boards that look like place mats, I like those better then cutting boards. If you don't add sauce. Only veggies (onions and bell peppers), then add chopped potato, then a can of tomato sauce and water. It becomes a soup and it's called Picadillo in spanish. So good. You can make it spicy with green or red chili sauce, or tomato sauce, also add chicken or beef bullion, salt and pepper.
I'd like to add a thumbs up or down. I won't. There's a lot more to sloppy joes than that. That was almost a lazy man's way to do it. Do it again, do it right, then I'll give a thumbs up. This was a staple for me growing up as a kid, when made right.
You made it wrong. You don't use ketchup. You use tomato sauce that comes in a can or paste ( or tomato paste). You brown the meat and drain the fat off. I replace it with olive oil for moisture and flavor. This is optional. You season the meat with salt, pepper, onion powder, and garlic powder ( I also use powdered chicken or beef bullion). I do not add mustard. Add diced onions and green bell peppers (any color is fine but green gives it a better flavor). Cook well. I add soy sauce and tomato sauce mix and add 4 tablespoons of water, to blend all the flavors together. Cook on low heat until liquid is absorbed. Toast the bread (bun). I add mayo to the bread, but it's optional. Then, spread the filling on the bread, and add a generous amount. It is called sloppy joe because it is meant to be sloppy. It should be coming out of the sides. You can have chips ( what you call crips) on the side with pickles. You can have fries with it, instead of chips.
The original old-time recipe for Sloppy Joes has yellow mustard in it, along with catsup and brown sugar. Its no wonder he didn't like it because it should not have Worcestershire sauce or green peppers in it. Those are not in the original recipe. He's also missing the brown sugar, which makes an amazing difference. And by the way, Manwich is absolutely NOTHING like real Sloppy Joes. It tastes terrible, and I would never buy it!
literally never seen anyone chop a bell pepper like that. I always cut it in half, then yank the seeds by hand. P.S. definitely needed more time with the onions and peppers in there. Try cooking them alongside the browning meat. That way their flavour will penetrate the meat and it'll soften them.
A few of things.
1. The cutting board is to protect the knife more than the counters. The hard surface of the counter bends the edge of the blade over making the knife dull.
2. A dull knife is far more dangerous than a sharp one. With a dull knife you use much more force to make the cut. You force down trying to push the knife through what you are cutting. With a properly sharp knife you are gliding it through the material.
3. With a Sloppy Joe the peppers and the onion should blend seamlessly into the meat. To do this you need a much finer dice on the onion and peppers.
4. Cook the peppers and onions with the meat so that they become soft and meld into the dish.
5. English mustard is not a good substitute for American yellow mustard or Dijon mustard. It has a much sharper and harsher flavor.
6. While the sauces for Sloppy Joes changes based on where in the country you are, the sauce is generally closer to a weak tomato based BBQ sauce than anything else. A down and dirty version is ketchup, mustard, wash-your-sister sauce, garlic powder, salt and pepper as needed.
Good job on your first attempt at making them. Experimentation is the key.
I was about to say the same about the cutting board and knife. Every time that knife hit the countertop I winced.
Also hope that wasn't a non-stick pan he was scraping with that metal spoon.
I also don't know how sweet ketchup is in other countries. Ketchup in the US has a tangy sweetness that adds overall sweetness to the sandwich, kind of like a BBQ sauce would, like you mentioned. I also don't know if I've used mustard in sloppy joes. If I have, I've used it sparingly.
I leave out the Worcestershire sauce, and use brown sugar, ketchup, mustard and vinegar!
@@toodlescae I'm glad I wasn't the only one thinking about the pan and spoon!
lol at the "wash-your-sister" sauce 🤣
What's stopping it from falling off the sides?
Nothing! That's why it's sloppy! 😀
Maybe I should call mine tidy Joe's
@@dan-ger6963 there was a television show here (US) in the 1960s that had a snooty English butler who, when he made these for the children insisted on calling them "Untidy Josephs"
,,,,,Try a Sloppy Joe Seasoning packet to ur Ground Beef... U will like IT 👍 😊
@@Marcel_Audubon Family affair?
@@KTKacer yep! Mr. French
Ketchup is not the same as tomato sauce. In fact you would do better to use tomato paste for sloppy joes. In the US, we are lucky to have Sloppy Joe mixes available. No need to mix spices or ingredients. I personally have never seen anyone put mustard in Sloppy Joes, but i'm sure someone has. Look for another recipe, Sloppy Joes are great sandwiches.
I've put mustard in my whole life, vinegar too! My recipe is from a 1960's Girl Scout cookbook.
I use ketchup and tomato paste just like my grandma did. Always had it made from scratch.
diced pickles are a good addition too!
I sometimes add a little dry mustard with the spices for the sauce.
Yech, I hate the prepared sloppy joe sauces. They taste way too sweet.
Americans do know how to pronounce Worcestershire Sauce. Buggs Bunny taught us. It's "worster-sheester-shusster-sheyster-sauce"
Or as I like to call it "WORD TO YOUR SISTER SAUCE"😁
He is actually using Worcester (wooster) sauce from TESCO, though. Assuming that Worcestershire Sauce is copyrighted?
My hillbilly friend calls it "Worsh yer sister sauce" 😂
I do; always did.
Yes, Bugs definitely got it right!🤣. That's my kind of rabbit!
Find a can of Manwich
Back in 1987 I went to New Jersey and had a sloppy Joe for the first time and I was hooked on them from that point. Coming back to Ireland was heartbreaking because nobody here had heard of a sloppy Joe never mind had a recipe. Around 2002 I was able to find a pre-made and frozen sloppy Joe from a well known supermarket but they disappeared after a few months and never came back. I struggled to find a recipe so I decided to try making my own but being the guy that I am I don’t use measurements and just go with the flow. Personally I brown the mince beef in 1 pan and cook veg in a separate pan then combine when both are cooked. I then add about 500ml of passata (puréed tomato sauce), and then about 250ml of sweet bbq sauce, 2 tablespoons of mustard and 2 tablespoons of Worcestershire sauce and cook for a few minutes until the sauce thickens a little bit and Bob’s your uncle. If the meat and sauce doesn’t spill out of the burger bun when you bite into it then your Joe isn’t sloppy enough. The measurements given are rough estimates as I usually just taste test and add a little of what’s needed. It’s not a perfect recipe and probably Americans may say it’s not authentic but the flavour hits just like the original I had in 1987. Give it a go, you may like it 👍🏻
Great story thanks for sharing I'd also go with buttering your buns as I did that after and it tasted better for some reason
@@dan-ger6963 yeah toast and butter the burger bun, forgot to say that but definitely the way to go
Hey, I sauté onions and green peppers, add the hamburger (minced meat), add a little brown sugar, catsup, a dab of mustard, and a tiny bit of vinegar. I never measure.
Hey...as long as YOU like it, that's all that counts!! I like to butter and lightly grill my bun, but my husband likes his plain
There is t really a set recipe for Slopy Joes. Everyone ended up with their own recipe. Yours sounds spot on. BBQ sauce is as acceptable as anything. Now we have canned mixes like Manwich or Sloppy Joe sauce by companies like Libby. Manwich is my favorite, but it is hard to find a bad sloppy joe
Do not toast the bun. Onions and peppers should be diced smaller
You didn't do anything wrong with that recipe, but virtually every American family or eating establishment has their own recipe. Some are horrific, some are incredibly good. Don't judge sloppy joes based on one recipe.
As a Texan, I have never eaten a sloppy Joe like you made. As a Boy in the 60s, was when it was first introduced in the can, and you just mix it with a pound of hamburger. And everybody loved that back them! You can still get the cans in our grocery stores.
you can buy Manwich on Amazon in the UK. Buy a can and try it that way. I think you will like it better. Also put a lot of it on the bun. After all, it's call SLOPPY Joe for a reason! Enjoy!
Don't use Amazon there are disgusting company that treat their workers like slaves and don't pay tax
Next time dice the pepper and onion a lot smaller and put it in at the same time as the meat so it all cooks together.
Even easier if you can find it over there just buy a can of Manwich or any other brand of Sloppy Joe mix.
Never tried mustard on a sloppy Joe. I’ll try it.
it was a fine first attempt.
You forgot brown sugar and a teaspoon of apple cider vinegar
Looks like you did a pretty decent job. Dijon is a little too strong. We used French's (the brand, not the country) Yellow Mustard. It's more mild. We always added a tablespoon of brown sugar and a dash of garlic powder too. Should be a little sweet, savory and tangy. Nice video 👍
Not quite so much mustard. Yellow mustard is better for Joe's. Add a tablespoon of brown sugar. Use red pepper for the color. You learn to adapt to your liking. Sloppy Joes should be very flavorful. I also use a slice of American cheese on top.
We never butter sandwiches in the U.S. BTW ketchup is NOT tomato sausce. Tomato sauce is what we put on spaghetti
Always better with a bit of better, over here we call ketchup tomato sauce and that's what it looked like in the picture for the recipe and we would put Bolognese sauce on spaghetti, I was thinking of using red sauce which is used to make lasagna
Tomato sauce it what I put IN my homemade spaghetti sauce. I never eat it plain. I also put tomato soup in my oven stew, with a few other secrets.
Actually it has two common meanings here in the U.S. The tomato based pasta sauces and the tomato sauce used in general cooking which is somewhere between tomato juice and tomato paste. Depending on exactly what taste you’re going for I suppose you could make ketchup, pasta sauce or tomato sauce work in a sloppy joe.
Yes we do butter all breads that are toasted here in America.
I toast grilled cheese bread with butter in the skillet but that's not exactly a buttered sandwich either.
Ketchup and bbq sauce both are high in sugar. Most recipes will probably call for at least half tomato paste or tomato sauce (the pre-made jarred stuff we pour over spaghetti). And the onions and peppers should be very finely chopped. We are trying to hide the veggies from the children getting their cafeteria lunch slops.
another way to toast the bun is to butter the cut sides then place the cut side down on a hot pan for a couple of minutes not long just enough to make it crispy and a bit golden on the cut sides, the non-cut side doesn’t get toasted
My suggestions would be: Leave out the mustard completely; add chili powder to the sauce and make more sauce. Let the meat, onions, and pepper simmer in the sauce longer.
Glad we have Manwich sauce in a can here in the U.S
We pronounce it the same way. How do you pronounce Dorchester? Worcester? These are cities in Massachusetts. Door-chest-er. Wuh-stir. And no, we don't usually toast sandwich bread - for sloppy Joe you want it to soak in to the bun.
This is an item that is not seeing very often on the menu of most restaurants and have never seen it going through any drive-thru.
Also, the flavor would be helped if you season your meat in the initial browning processs, or when you add the onions and bell peppers. Onion and garlic powder, salt and pepper at minimum.
,we season our meats. If the meat will have batter, we season both the meat and the batter.
Americans can pronounce Worcestershire sauce just fine, it's just that Brits don't spell it like they pronounce it. If Brits spelled it as it sounds, it would be spelled "wooster sauce"
For us americans "tomato sauce" is usually the stuff you put in spaghetti. (No, we do not put ketchup on our noodles.)
Canned Sloppy Joe Mix. You just pour it over your cooked burger.
Part of the goodness about it ,is it's messy 😂
Americans typically judge how good something tastes by how much of it you get on your face and chest
This is almost a sacrilege here in the states, but we use it in a pinch if we are in a real hurry to make these. You may have it in the grocery store, but look for something called either "Manwich" or something I will use instead because it is more of a blank slate is something called "meatloaf sauce" and it is made by a brand called "Hunts." It doesn't have as many seasonings as Manwich does, so it is easier to use as a base sauce if you are in a real hurry. They both come in cans, and anything you don't use of the sauce can be saved and you can make all kinds of thicker dipping sauces with it. Typically, we will make our own seasoning mix from scratch based on preference, but it does take longer, so the canned versions I mentioned will keep for a while in the pantry, and you can tweak them slightly if you are in a real rush.
we usually use French's mustard for sloppy joes (the bright yellow stuff) it's a milder than what you're using. In fact, I knew you had a mustard problem when you coughed taking the first bite! haha! but you're right, it's all about experimenting and adjusting. I like to use some ketchup (because it has sugar and vinegar in it) and some tomato sauce (what you called puree) combined.
We all ate this at school growing up, but you don't have that childhood benchmark that you must slavishly compare it to like we do, so you're at an advantage there!!
You can't use English mustard as a 1 to 1 substitute for Dijon mustard. Dijon mustard is mild and sweet. If you can't find Dijon a good alternate is honey mustard or just a plain American mustard. With any substitutions you should always put less then add more to taste.
Just dice your bell pepper up smaller and cook them and the onions in the meat together so there very tender. Use american mustard only and more sauce. You'll be fine after a few times making it.
There's as many variations as people who make it probably! I use canned tomato sauce NOT ketchup, a sauteed onion, garlic powder, paprika, soy sauce NOT Worcester, a molasses heavy barbecue sauce, a tiny bit of instant coffee, and Dijon mustard. Toast bread, lots of Hellman's and depending on my mood I add a little cheese and a little relish. I have used different sauce and adapted to taste from there. If you use the Italian style tomato sauce, it would probably remind you of a meatball sub, so olives and spinach are good. I knew someone who added other vegetables like carrots to the sauce. Google more recipes and make it your own 😊. Hopefully that makes sense, I'm sleepy.
I've used ketchup and tomato sauces. Ketchup is fine. It's just a matter of personal taste. 😊 I do like your suggestion for the coffee. I'm going to try that.
When we say "toasted buns", we mean puttong the cut side down on a hot pan until it's golden brown. You can butter it if you like, for better cooking. If you're using flat bread, you can put it in a toaster. Also, chopping the veg into smaller chunks would be better. I've not had mustard in a sloppy joe before. Tomato sauce isn't ketchup, it's pureed tomatoes in a can
A bit more Italian result is what most would expect from ol' Joe.
Ketchup is different than tomato sauce. In my opinion, it was way too much mustard, usually 1/2 teaspoon or less is enough unless you really like mustard. (I use 1/2 teaspoon of dry mustard.) Did you add salt & pepper to ground beef when it was cooking? (Our ground beef has great flavor before adding anything other than salt & pepper, so I don't know how flavorful yours is.) I make sloppy joes a bit differently & also add a bit of brown sugar & 1 teaspoon of white vinegar & simmer it longer.
I've never seen mustard in the sloppy joe. Usually, if you feel the urge, that is something that you put on top...to your taste.
you need a chopping board you're gonna damage your kitchen counter cutting and putting a hot fry pan directly on it 😭
Don't worry the knife isn't sharp enough to Mark the side and the pan had cooled down
Yeah, mustard can be a bit overpowering... Probably a good idea to dial it back a bit...
If you cook the meat at a medium heat then you can break down the beef finer and it makes for a better end product. Please get a sharp knife, you are more likely to get badly cut with a dull blade than a very sharp blade. Also never use a metal utensil on a non stick pan because you will be scratching off the coating into your food, its very toxic. Looks good 👍🏼
Fascinating stuff Dan-Ger. I’ve never made a Sloppy Joe before, used to love them as a kid in the 1970s. Damn fascinating cooking. Smell-O-Vision would improve this but I could smell the cooking, regardless. 👍
What we American's call "tomato sauce" is probably closest to passata except that tomato sauce has some seasonings in it such as salt, garlic, onion, etc. But, ketchup was a good call since if we make sloppy joes with tomato sauce, we tend to add in some sugar to make it sweet and a bit of vinegar for some tang. I've always got to pause when I read UK recipes that call for tomato products to figure out exactly what I need to use since we have different names for essentially the same thing.
There are different versions and then family recipes. Growing up poor, ketchup is def acceptable. Sometimes you add things according to your mood, chili, paprika, and cumin are good to add. We put mayonaise on the top end. The sloppier the better,, we put as much meat on as we think we can get away with :P Cooking the onions beforehand, frying in a pan to getthat nice carmelization brings it to another level.
I use less green pepper, and I cut peppers and onions smaller, and way less mustard. I use a salad mustard. And I use more catsup. And worstershire sause, and salt and pepper
You're mad lad, to be cutting and placing hot frying pans on the counter top.
Need a better recipe. Its supposed to be more sweet than mustardy. You are supposed to taste the sweet tang of the ketchup with the sautéed onion and peppers. Try it again until it tastes awesome then you will get why we love it. Better yet, come to the States and let us cook it for you. Authentic!!
If you're getting a chopping board get a knife sharpener too 😆
English mustard is MUCH stronger than Dijon, so that probably wasn't a good substitution. I cringed every time you scraped the non-stick pan with the metal spoon, particularly when you had the appropriate spatula right there! Your knife appears to be dangerously dull. A chopping board and a trivet would be good investments.
If I used the spatula to stir it when it would have gone everywhere hence why I used the spoon and what is the fascination with the chopping board it's not like it's a thousand pound oak worktop
@@dan-ger6963not the countertop that worried me. It's the fact that a knife that's dulled and has nicks in it from hitting that countertop is more dangerous than a finely honed blade.
No, you need the American brand of Sloppy Joe sauce. But it in the store already made. You can always add more ketchup and yellow mustard if you want.
I don't like my strong veggies like onions, peppers so chunky but thats an individual thing. I normally just add onion and celery to my sloppy joe but green pepper would be fine too...just smaller chunks for me.
you put about half the meat as you should. still looks good
Tomato paste makes it sticky. Adds depth and flavor. On the other end of the spectrum, try mushroom soup, hamburger, onions, garlic, peppers well cooked - YUM City! Pickles ALWAYS welcome! With potatoes chips - GODLIKE!
Dan, invest in a damn cutting board. It will protect your counters, your knife, it's amazingly sanitary, and clean up in easy. I would never ever cut or dice anything on the bare counter. Maybe it's a european thing, I don't know.
I never seen slappy joes with veggies in it. It's all meat. I also never heard of mustard in it. But well done regardless. Toasting the buns is a good idea! I'll have to keep that in mind.
the way to make them is to buy premade sauce like Manwich original Sloppy Joe Sauce. Cook the hamburger and dump the can of sauce in the pan.
It does not exist in this country and if you make it from scratch you can adjust it to the way you like it
The meat is hamburger not mince. American make a pie with a jar of mincemeat which is a combination of dried chopped fruits and spices, sugar, nuts, alcohol all put in a pie crust. My parents liked it but I never did.
I knew after seeing the yellow tint of your mixture that you added too much mustard. That should have been minimal if not none at all. Ketchup is like the secondary to beef in a sloppy joe. Probably just a bad recipe you were following and I'd like to see you try again.
What happened to the brown sugar? Also, I've never heard of mustard in a sloppy joe.
Try the "Not so sloppy joe" recipe and instead of ketchup, go with tomato paste or sauce, it's just supposed to be tomatoes, not the vinegar and sugar and all the stuff they put into ketchup. Or talk someone into sending you a can of the real stuff. ;)
I’m sorry your experience wasn’t proper. Great try though,
I applaud the effort.
The distinctive taste of the sauce, it’s color, smell are the foundations of an authentic Joe!
Your recipe just seems a little off.
Keep tryin, you’ll get it right.
I don't use veg at all. Just crumbled hamburger/mince & tomato paste, water, spice packet. Thich & luscious. On toasted buns, put meat sauce, top with cheese. EAT HOT.
Hey there Northern California here all I will say is I would have let it simmer some more it's suppose to be juicy but sticky like more of a hearty meat sauce and if juice and meat ain't flopping out the sides its not a sloppy joe, but still looks good, I'd add a bit of cheese to the top. Great Job though and hey if you like it who cares what others say
P.S. Americans would have something with that like fries or tater tots. Some people add other things to the sandwich or even put a slice of American cheese on it. The roll doesn't always have to be toasted either...and there are many types of bread as well
Tomato sauce is not the same as ketchup. Here in the states it comes in a small can. Frankly I prefer tomato paste and water. Cook the onions snd pepper with the hamburger. Needs garlic too
Try it again - use the recipe
Servings: 4 servings
1 small onion, finely chopped
1/2 small green bell pepper, seeded and finely diced
1 Tbsp worcestershire sauce
1 1/2 tsp yellow mustard
1 Tbsp brown sugar
15 oz can tomato sauce
1 lb lean ground beef, 85%-90% lean
1 Tbsp olive oil
½ tsp salt, or to taste
¼ tsp ground black pepper, or to taste
3 garlic cloves, minced
1/4 cup water, optional, or added to desired consistency
4 hamburger buns, toasted if desired
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Instructions
Finely chop the onion. Seed and finely dice the green pepper.
In a bowl, combine the Worcestershire sauce, mustard, brown sugar, and tomato sauce.
Place a large skillet or dutch oven over medium/high heat. Add olive oil and ground beef. Saute the beef for about 5 minutes until cooked through and no longer pink, breaking it up with a spatula. Season with salt and pepper and add in the diced peppers and onion. Cook another 5 minutes until the veggies are tender and beef is browned.
Add the minced garlic and saute 30 seconds until fragrant, stirring constantly. Add in the sauce and bring to a light boil. Reduce heat to low and simmer uncovered for about 10-15 minutes or until thickened to your liking. Season to taste with salt and pepper and add water if you prefer a looser consistency. Serve on toasted buns for Sloppy Joe Sandwiches.
No catchup or mustard! Use tomato sauce in a can and chop up the green peppers and onions finer. Put a slice of American cheese on it . Much better that way my friend.
Ketchup was a bad substitute.
Too much trouble. I buy my sloppy joe meat in a can and put it on hamburger buns.
I use Brown Sugar too.
Not correct but it looks good!!
I just use manwich
Maybe we say it differently because we spell it differently. And ketchup is not tomato sauce.
Don't hate onions; hate your dull knife.
You shouldn't have a crunch to the veggies.
I like crunchy vegetables we're all different and the like different things
This is the second video of yours I have seen. Where are you finding these recipes? You need to look in different places. Also, sautee your peppers and onions then add the meat to them. This way the veggies are cooked and blend better with the meat.
Manwich is just a dump and go on fried chopped hamburger. GOD bless them!
Use manwich, it's the best.
If you taste mustard, you did it all wrong. It should be closer to a very meaty spaghetti sauce with a hint of sweet Bar-B-Q sauce. Maybe you dont have Bar-B-Q sauce?
It’s suppose to fall out the side it’s called a sloppy Joe for a reason.
That's what she said 😂
Should chop the vegetables smaller more katsup salt pepper garlic
what recipe did you use? that's not a sloppy joe.
Good video but man get that damn cutting board!
America's Test Kitchen has a better recipe to make a "Tidy Joe" sandwich which I think you would like better.
Look at the size of those pepper and onion chunks......in a Sloppy Joe..............
Anytime you cook meat you should season it with salt, pepper maybe a little garlic power, etc so the meat will have flavor. Then you cook the sauce around it. Ketchup is not tomato sauce, maybe you call it tomato puree'? The Dejon Mustard is a brown mustard with is not tart and bitter like the yellow mustard. I think if you tried it with some spices and the right ingredients, you may like it.
I did enjoy it I had to eat all of it you can't waste food.
I do not toast my bread.
The people who decided to spell “wooster” with extra consonants in the middle don’t get to criticize anyone for being confused about how to pronounce it. 🤣
You should try and pronounce malheureusement
Tesco Brand?
I noticed it was Worcester sauce... not Worcestershire.
It's exactly the same exempt it's half the price of Liam Payne's Worcestershire sauce maybe you're paying more because it's got more letters
@@dan-ger6963 I can't stand the stuff haha! I was just laughing because you said we Americans can't pronounce Worcestershire (which most can't)... but if anyone was looking at the label for Worcester and wondering where you got the "shire" from, they'd be even more confused! I grew up near Boston and there is a town called Worcester, so it has never tripped me up. But you have to say it with the Boston accent: wuss-TAHH. 🤣
You need to add a little salt , pepper and garlic powder
Three issues from a bloke who is native to, and still lives across the pond.
First ketchup and tomato sauce may both come from a tomato, but the ingredient differences are substantial enough to change the final flavor. Make your own call, but know the difference.
Second Worcestershire sauce is a popular ingredient across the states, and some of us do know how to pronounce it, but it may have different inflections due to our collective nation's ongoing problems with sharing a common language.
Third these are not referred by all as 'Sloppy Joes'. There was a popular TV series back in the late '60s - early '70s that started the use of another name. The ensemble cast focused around the central family. This family then employed a butler by the name of Mr. French and he called the sandwiches 'Untidy Josephs'.
Que sera sera.
What ever that was it was not a sloppy joe. The onion and pepper chunks were way too big and way too much! You want tomato sauce or better yet some canned diced tomato (and dice those to tiny bits) and tomato paste... Whatever you do Do Not eat Manwich
Potato chips are great with sloppy joes
You probably used the right amount of mustard, but dijon is more sweet, and you used a more spicey mustard. If you try again, this change will make a world of difference. Enjoy.
You did great. You can season the meat more with salt, pepper. garlic salt, onion salt. Instead of chopping the veggies you can use a cheese grader so they almost disappear in the meat and add more flavor. Taste it until you have the perfect taste, some people add bbq sauce and mustard sauce instead of Worcestershire. I think you shouldn't add ketchup. I once added ketchup and this very picky guy said, " did you add ketchup?" I said, " yes." He didn't eat that day. He was a very good experienced cook. I never added ketchup again. I add mayo to my bread and a slice of cheese. Most stores now sell thin plastic cutting boards that look like place mats, I like those better then cutting boards. If you don't add sauce. Only veggies (onions and bell peppers), then add chopped potato, then a can of tomato sauce and water. It becomes a soup and it's called Picadillo in spanish. So good. You can make it spicy with green or red chili sauce, or tomato sauce, also add chicken or beef bullion, salt and pepper.
Yellow mustard, like French's instead of djon.
There are a lot of other recipes for sloppy joes
Real sloppy Jr's have chilliepowder and no veg.
I'd like to add a thumbs up or down. I won't. There's a lot more to sloppy joes than that. That was almost a lazy man's way to do it. Do it again, do it right, then I'll give a thumbs up. This was a staple for me growing up as a kid, when made right.
You made it wrong. You don't use ketchup. You use tomato sauce that comes in a can or paste ( or tomato paste). You brown the meat and drain the fat off. I replace it with olive oil for moisture and flavor. This is optional. You season the meat with salt, pepper, onion powder, and garlic powder ( I also use powdered chicken or beef bullion). I do not add mustard. Add diced onions and green bell peppers (any color is fine but green gives it a better flavor). Cook well. I add soy sauce and tomato sauce mix and add 4 tablespoons of water, to blend all the flavors together. Cook on low heat until liquid is absorbed. Toast the bread (bun). I add mayo to the bread, but it's optional. Then, spread the filling on the bread, and add a generous amount. It is called sloppy joe because it is meant to be sloppy. It should be coming out of the sides. You can have chips ( what you call crips) on the side with pickles. You can have fries with it, instead of chips.
News flash, don't drain off the fat! They are call sloppy Joe's for a reason.
I don't like heart disease and diabetes
The original old-time recipe for Sloppy Joes has yellow mustard in it, along with catsup and brown sugar. Its no wonder he didn't like it because it should not have Worcestershire sauce or green peppers in it. Those are not in the original recipe. He's also missing the brown sugar, which makes an amazing difference. And by the way, Manwich is absolutely NOTHING like real Sloppy Joes. It tastes terrible, and I would never buy it!
literally never seen anyone chop a bell pepper like that. I always cut it in half, then yank the seeds by hand. P.S. definitely needed more time with the onions and peppers in there. Try cooking them alongside the browning meat. That way their flavour will penetrate the meat and it'll soften them.
Do not use dijon mustard, use regular mustard, and 1 tablespoon mustard
English mustard is Regular if you're in England, like French mustard is Regular if you're in France 😉