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@Ivo Haze but why? Steve has the technique and actual songwriting credits, Ian has nothing other than being at the back of the mix or literally being replaced with bass synths like a lot of their 80s work. If you don't like Steve you don't like Steve but Ian doesn't stand out even as a bassist who just holds things down. A guy like Rudy Sarzo is the same kind of player as Ian but he actually has bass parts that stand out from the guitar, or lock in with the drums in a powerful way. Ian just plinks away. Picking Ian over Steve is like saying you prefer an empty ice cream over a specific flavour.
@@jaycliche8778 by writing that you show that you have not been listening to Priests early albums. Go listen to them, he plays really interesting on those :)
Who has been in the same band 50 years? Probably count that list on one hand. He is great and always in the pocket. I also like how he straps himself to the floor and never moves.
Hill is pure class. A master hard rock/metal bassist. When people say he is boring, I feel they don’t understand his role. Of course this man could play intricate lines that impress music nerds (I include myself as one), but that is not Priest’s sound for reasons that the poster well explained. One of the toughest jobs for a musician is restraint. We all get to a level where we’ve got at least a few tricks in our bag, and we’re itching to break ‘em out. So, holding back can be the toughest part of the gig. It shows wisdom, maturity and a willingness to serve the music, not your ego. All respect.
I always felt as a Judas Priest fan that Ian should have a bass solo in there somewhere. He deserves it. But if he is happy, I'm happy. The whole band Rocks.
I think Ian Hill is one of the most overlooked and underrated bass players of the 80's. He has supported the dual guitar attack and been part of one of the very best metal bands that ever emerged from the heavy metal scene. Although he doesnt play very complicated parts, he holds together the rhythm for the guitars brilliantly. I wish I could shake his hand.
There's a bass intro in Revolution! Ian can groove, and as you said, never gets in the way, but he can definitely add. Bloodstone and Rocka Rolla are great examples of that groove, as you noted. So are Diamonds and Rust, Desert Plains, Killing Machine. And thank god he didn't double the guitar in Breaking the Law... his solid playing under that song drives hard. He also adds some touches that make a difference but you wouldn't be able to tell they do unless you listened carefully... like going from E-F#-G#-A in Living After Midnight, and the fills in Tyrant (not just the arpeggios).
I learned how to play bass by playing along to Judas Priest. He plays for the song and proves that it's not what you play but how you do it. One of the tightest, steadiest and most driving bass players but also melodic when the song needs it, with basic methods. There is something very humble with his style that I like, I think it's admirable to keep it that basic yet effective and making it sound great
He had a lot of cool basslines on the early albums, but he's a great bassist in that he sticks to his role, ive never had any complaints with his playing.
Being one of the earliest hard rock bands to have two dueling lead Guitarists, As Ian said in an interview back in the '80's, there has to be someone to make sure the beat stays constant.
As a guitar player, I bought a bass to tinker with. The first thing I learned was The Rage. Such a cool vibe to it. Ian is legend for a legendary band.
The magic of Ian Hill is in his right hand. It is crushing and relentless. It doesn't let up.Try playing at that level of consistency and speed and not missing a note. Try Painkiller. It will give you tendinitis. You will need painkillers.
Ian Hill is a prime example of a bassist serving the music. Now, how about dissecting Joey DeMaio of Manowar? I think he's an interesting case. Definitely more guitar-like approach.
Ian has to be the most overlooked bass player of all rock history. He is far from any kind of do just enough bass player, if u don’t believe me try to play his parts on the sentinel.
I’m a bass player in a Judas Priest cover band and I can say that yes, it’s all about holding it down, depending on the song. Lightning Strikes is fun one.
Uno dei bassisti più sottovalutati della storia. Il mantere il tiro, il tempo , il tenere incollato un brano...non è da sottovalutare per niente. In un contesto di band un approccio come Hill è fondamentale
In 1990 I was at the Judas Priest Painkiller concert featuring Testament and Megadeth. Saw every bandmember clearly except for Ian Hill who likes to stand off to the side and just grooves.
Say what you will - if you miss a note , the song is done , especially at 4000 watts . It’s one thing to play through a 30 watt practice amp and another with 800 watts 😊
Two things to point out. One, he isnt very basic in their really early material. And two, "The rhythm section has to hold back, less is more" Sooo wrong, It was Dave Holland's double bass drumming that elevated Priest's sound and tempo, and IMO led to Speed Metal, now known as Thrash.
Actually no, as Dave Holland rarely played double bass in priest! It was Simon Phillips that went nuts on the double bass in JP years before that, in 76 on the sin after sin album, that is what really kicked off the faster metal double bass revolution that influenced a ton of metal drummers to play that way. And right after that on the next 2 albums Les Binks continued that trend, like on Exciter, etc. Then Dave Holland came in after in 80, but rarely played double bass, there are hardly any double bass JP songs from his time in the band. He actually played more and faster better double bass in his old band Trapeze before priest than in priest, like on the 1972 trapeze song "Keepin Time"...that is some great dave holland double bass for 72... better than most all his priest drumming in general). Also in priest some of Dave;s few double bass parts were overdubbed singles, because he could not play it for real that fast...for instance on Rapid Fire middle part. They (ian hill) would complain he could not handle the older double bass songs well compared to how Simon and Les Binks played them. That is partially why they got Scott, but Scott is a generic late 80s metal drummer when everyone played fast double bass, so he really doesnt do anything for me, sounds like a million late 80s metal drummers, no style of his own. Dave Holland tho has uniqueness regardless, and cool little tricks up his sleeve few other drummers do, like certain double crash accents, crashes ahead of the beat, some little hi hat things, a few linear parts before they were a thing, cool fills that land in odd ways. etc. So even tho he lacked in double bass he made up for it in other ways. I like all the JP drummers before scott in their own was, as they all have their own thing going totally unique from each other, like John Hinch too on Rocka Rolla, such a cool early 70s feel and tone.
The reason Ian gets "ignored" is because you can't hear him, period. It seems they've had his amps turned down to nothing for 20 years. He can play notes (or used to), but it appears that he's just there for looks nowadays. Not meaning to diss him but once reaching a certain age he wasn't cut out for it anymore.
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I know there's a lot of people that don't like his personality, but I'd love to see a video about Jerry Only of The Misfits. The bass was in my opinion the defining instrument in the early Misfits recordings and was often times louder in the mix than the guitar. A song like She or anything off of Static Age really inspired me as a young bassist and even today.
I played in a Helloween tribute band for several years...and after learning songs of several of his albums I can tell that he has a unique style...I bet that most of his fills and licks are improvised on the spot in the moment of recording.
Ian Hill and Cliff Williams are both probably the most underrated Rock/Metal Bass players of the 70s. They don't get in the way and does a better job of holding down the lows than many of their other contemporaries.
38 years into Metal for me, and I will never get tired of this music. In truth I was listening to a few songs here & there already the year before, but my total immersion in Heavy Metal music has been in Autumn of 1985. Really I cannot stand those who dismiss the genre saying that it is something that will get abandoned when one grows and "evolve"! I am 53 years old and I like to listen (and to play) Heavy Metal as much as when I was very young. It will always be so! Greetings from Italy!
Good video- I am not sure Turbo Lover even has any real bass on the studio recording- think it is all synth. But he plays a pretty cool muted line live.
@@markharc7615 It was revealed last year Don Airey played synth on Painkiller, and there’s no actual bass guitar on the record at all. I believe Hill was unable to play on the record because of sickness? I’m not sure.
@@overdrive6687 I recall Airey did some bass guidelines on synth in pre-production and they liked the sound so much they ended up keeping them. Plus some of those lines like the runs just before the first solo on the song 'Painkiller' would be next to impossible to play so tight on a real bass guitar.
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Ian Hill has played bass for Judas Priest for over 50 years ! Enough said.
True!! But...... He's boring as Hell man!!!
@Ivo Haze but why? Steve has the technique and actual songwriting credits, Ian has nothing other than being at the back of the mix or literally being replaced with bass synths like a lot of their 80s work. If you don't like Steve you don't like Steve but Ian doesn't stand out even as a bassist who just holds things down. A guy like Rudy Sarzo is the same kind of player as Ian but he actually has bass parts that stand out from the guitar, or lock in with the drums in a powerful way. Ian just plinks away.
Picking Ian over Steve is like saying you prefer an empty ice cream over a specific flavour.
@@jaycliche8778 by writing that you show that you have not been listening to Priests early albums. Go listen to them, he plays really interesting on those :)
@@jaycliche8778 he did exactly what Priest needed.
Who has been in the same band 50 years? Probably count that list on one hand. He is great and always in the pocket. I also like how he straps himself to the floor and never moves.
Hill is pure class. A master hard rock/metal bassist. When people say he is boring, I feel they don’t understand his role. Of course this man could play intricate lines that impress music nerds (I include myself as one), but that is not Priest’s sound for reasons that the poster well explained. One of the toughest jobs for a musician is restraint. We all get to a level where we’ve got at least a few tricks in our bag, and we’re itching to break ‘em out. So, holding back can be the toughest part of the gig. It shows wisdom, maturity and a willingness to serve the music, not your ego. All respect.
😊😊😊 I think the same
I always felt as a Judas Priest fan that Ian should have a bass solo in there somewhere. He deserves it. But if he is happy, I'm happy. The whole band Rocks.
The closest we've had so far is The Rage but all of Ian's bass lines have thumping attacks that set the songs foundation.
the bass from the first album to hell bent for leather is outstanding
ian holds together all the noise and chaos of judas with his steady smooth bass playing.
I think Ian Hill is one of the most overlooked and underrated bass players of the 80's. He has supported the dual guitar attack and been part of one of the very best metal bands that ever emerged from the heavy metal scene. Although he doesnt play very complicated parts, he holds together the rhythm for the guitars brilliantly. I wish I could shake his hand.
There's a bass intro in Revolution!
Ian can groove, and as you said, never gets in the way, but he can definitely add. Bloodstone and Rocka Rolla are great examples of that groove, as you noted. So are Diamonds and Rust, Desert Plains, Killing Machine. And thank god he didn't double the guitar in Breaking the Law... his solid playing under that song drives hard. He also adds some touches that make a difference but you wouldn't be able to tell they do unless you listened carefully... like going from E-F#-G#-A in Living After Midnight, and the fills in Tyrant (not just the arpeggios).
Revolution! 🤘
He's a perfect metal bass player
I learned how to play bass by playing along to Judas Priest. He plays for the song and proves that it's not what you play but how you do it. One of the tightest, steadiest and most driving bass players but also melodic when the song needs it, with basic methods. There is something very humble with his style that I like, I think it's admirable to keep it that basic yet effective and making it sound great
He had a lot of cool basslines on the early albums, but he's a great bassist in that he sticks to his role, ive never had any complaints with his playing.
"Run of the Mill" and "Dreamer/Deceiver" are beautiful.
Being one of the earliest hard rock bands to have two dueling lead Guitarists, As Ian said in an interview back in the '80's, there has to be someone to make sure the beat stays constant.
As a guitar player, I bought a bass to tinker with. The first thing I learned was The Rage. Such a cool vibe to it. Ian is legend for a legendary band.
The intro from The Rage is not the only one)
There is a Revolution (2005), check it out
Ian is a genius and has a hand in all aspects of recording and production, make no mistake in thinking otherwise
the intro from „the rage“ is awesome!
I love second album the most, and nothing will change my mind. It took me more than a year to fully appreciate this masterpiece.
My favorite songs to play on Bass is Judas Priest. Therefore, Ian Hill is my favorite!
so you’re favorite songs to play include playing root and sticking to the same rhythm for 6 minutes?
@@ikon4255 What else is a Bass player supposed to play? Guitar solos? Not much of a musician are you?
@@zforczek8653 ian hills bass lines are beginner level at best
@@zforczek8653arpeggios, chromatic notes. Something more than just playing root notes
Hooray for Ian Hill!
The magic of Ian Hill is in his right hand. It is crushing and relentless. It doesn't let up.Try playing at that level of consistency and speed and not missing a note. Try Painkiller. It will give you tendinitis. You will need painkillers.
Great Bass Player. And a Metal legend as well.
I would love to watch a video about Rachel Bolan of Skid Row next.
Ian Hill is a prime example of a bassist serving the music.
Now, how about dissecting Joey DeMaio of Manowar? I think he's an interesting case. Definitely more guitar-like approach.
Ian has to be the most overlooked bass player of all rock history. He is far from any kind of do just enough bass player, if u don’t believe me try to play his parts on the sentinel.
I’m a bass player in a Judas Priest cover band and I can say that yes, it’s all about holding it down, depending on the song.
Lightning Strikes is fun one.
Uno dei bassisti più sottovalutati della storia. Il mantere il tiro, il tempo , il tenere incollato un brano...non è da sottovalutare per niente. In un contesto di band un approccio come Hill è fondamentale
Yeah, Ian Hill! Been waiting for this one for a bit!
Do one on Pete Way of UFO
RIP Pete Way
Ian does what he does well and its been working how long now?
Yeah, not a fancy flash player, but he doesn't need to be.
In 1990 I was at the Judas Priest Painkiller concert featuring Testament and Megadeth. Saw every bandmember clearly except for Ian Hill who likes to stand off to the side and just grooves.
Judas Priest use to be so much groovier and I miss that
Huh invincible shield has total groove to it
@@toddnorin3843 my brother in Christ that was 2 years ago and I had not fully known their newer discography
@@masbucket3083 all good man
@@masbucket3083 I always though Ian was boring I did the same thing listen to old discography
Master.lan Hill and Judas Priest Great heavy metal Legends 🎸🎶
He is metal true and true. Such a great pocket player
Sounds dirty
Say what you will - if you miss a note , the song is done , especially at 4000 watts . It’s one thing to play through a 30 watt practice amp and another with 800 watts 😊
Markus Grosskopf of Helloween next please.....very melodic bassist
5:30 No, "The Rage" is NOT the only Priest song that starts with the bass. "Revolution" does as well.
Great video, Hill is fantastic, rock solid playing!
One of my favorite of his bass lines is Valhalla and most of the song off Nostradamus
I want an episode on tom araya
Great video and great bass player
For me, one of his best is the bassline from "Run of the mill"
Take On The World is the ultimate example of Ian Hill's minimalist style. and they NEVER should have down tuned in the 90s
Double the guitar is the best way to play bass on a heavy metal band
Please do more Priest-covers with tabs!
Although he did gallop in diamonds and rust unleashed in the east
Great content man. I'd love a bass technique video about Tom Angelripper from Sodom. Man's got some sweet basslines.
Dont forget the intro of revolution
Metal God
Great vid, under rated bassist and solid musician. WOULD like to hear him go off here and there, though😀
You forgot to mention his best bass song, Run of the mill
Hey Paul, huge fan! Any chance you could do Andy Rourke of the Smiths? Very melodic approach to bass playing
Hes the only member to survive the whole time. Everybody else has been replaced at one time.
Thanks for portugueses subtitles.
would you make an episode about dd verni?
With two guitarists a drummer and a vocalist like Priest had, it's hard for the bass to find a place to fit in.
Paul Simonon of the Clash
Joey Demaio from Manowar next!
could you please do fat mike of NOFX
Nice
Ian the Priest’s Abbot
Two things to point out. One, he isnt very basic in their really early material. And two, "The rhythm section has to hold back, less is more" Sooo wrong, It was Dave Holland's double bass drumming that elevated Priest's sound and tempo, and IMO led to Speed Metal, now known as Thrash.
Actually no, as Dave Holland rarely played double bass in priest! It was Simon Phillips that went nuts on the double bass in JP years before that, in 76 on the sin after sin album, that is what really kicked off the faster metal double bass revolution that influenced a ton of metal drummers to play that way. And right after that on the next 2 albums Les Binks continued that trend, like on Exciter, etc. Then Dave Holland came in after in 80, but rarely played double bass, there are hardly any double bass JP songs from his time in the band. He actually played more and faster better double bass in his old band Trapeze before priest than in priest, like on the 1972 trapeze song "Keepin Time"...that is some great dave holland double bass for 72... better than most all his priest drumming in general). Also in priest some of Dave;s few double bass parts were overdubbed singles, because he could not play it for real that fast...for instance on Rapid Fire middle part. They (ian hill) would complain he could not handle the older double bass songs well compared to how Simon and Les Binks played them.
That is partially why they got Scott, but Scott is a generic late 80s metal drummer when everyone played fast double bass, so he really doesnt do anything for me, sounds like a million late 80s metal drummers, no style of his own. Dave Holland tho has uniqueness regardless, and cool little tricks up his sleeve few other drummers do, like certain double crash accents, crashes ahead of the beat, some little hi hat things, a few linear parts before they were a thing, cool fills that land in odd ways. etc. So even tho he lacked in double bass he made up for it in other ways. I like all the JP drummers before scott in their own was, as they all have their own thing going totally unique from each other, like John Hinch too on Rocka Rolla, such a cool early 70s feel and tone.
The reason Ian gets "ignored" is because you can't hear him, period. It seems they've had his amps turned down to nothing for 20 years. He can play notes (or used to), but it appears that he's just there for looks nowadays. Not meaning to diss him but once reaching a certain age he wasn't cut out for it anymore.
Next, can you please make how to sound like Paul Simonon of the clash please🙏🙏
do a video of System of a down’s bassist Shavo next :)
You need to do one of Alex James of Blur.
paul chuckle hill
Maiden definitely have 3 guitar heroes - Steve, Davy and Adrian.........
For Ian's other bass intro - yes, there have actually been two - check out "Revolution". | ua-cam.com/video/6-F-YdzrCEg/v-deo.html
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😂nice! 😎👍
That is what most good bass players do though. It's amazing how many cannot.
Or should I say will not.
I just wish Ian would do something out of the ordinary. He’s consistent but also very boring
Listen Raw deal or Whiskey Woman ...
Its Funking Funky
Listen Raw deal or Whiskey Woman ...
Its Funking Funky
I would rather not play bass if Ian Hill was the standard. He may as well not even be plugged in. (Useless)
He's the most overpaid bass player on the planet.
Ian Hills bass work on the firepower album is solid as fuck. Keeps a solid foundation on all the chaos.
Ian was so rock solid. Bam. Right tight. AND PRIEST was HIS band! He hired everyone in the early days.
I know there's a lot of people that don't like his personality, but I'd love to see a video about Jerry Only of The Misfits. The bass was in my opinion the defining instrument in the early Misfits recordings and was often times louder in the mix than the guitar. A song like She or anything off of Static Age really inspired me as a young bassist and even today.
Don’t go is such an underrated track for me
Markus Grosskopf next Please!
I played in a Helloween tribute band for several years...and after learning songs of several of his albums I can tell that he has a unique style...I bet that most of his fills and licks are improvised on the spot in the moment of recording.
thank your for this video, man!
if Rob halford is in your band stay out of his way
great vid. much needed spotlight. Cheers!
Ian Hill and Cliff Williams are both probably the most underrated Rock/Metal Bass players of the 70s. They don't get in the way and does a better job of holding down the lows than many of their other contemporaries.
Adoro o timbre dele. E o jeito que ele é firme. Bases sólidas e arranjos eficientes quando precisa ter.
This is so awesome Paul, thank you!
i am listening to heavy metal for 31 years nos. I will love it forever
38 years into Metal for me, and I will never get tired of this music. In truth I was listening to a few songs here & there already the year before, but my total immersion in Heavy Metal music has been in Autumn of 1985.
Really I cannot stand those who dismiss the genre saying that it is something that will get abandoned when one grows and "evolve"!
I am 53 years old and I like to listen (and to play) Heavy Metal as much as when I was very young.
It will always be so!
Greetings from Italy!
Lo vi tocar a Ian Hill (en vivo) ✅
"British Steel" entre los top-ten 👍
Harris' gallop is very inspired by Hill's bassline in The Ripper and probably Roger Glover in Child in Time
Ian Hill totally Solid, Kick Ass Bass, Rocks Every Song to the Freakin' Core,
Plus he's English, which adds 10 more Points !!!
Not one. Which is why I love him, Dusty Hill, and Sean Yseult of White Zombie
Good video- I am not sure Turbo Lover even has any real bass on the studio recording- think it is all synth. But he plays a pretty cool muted line live.
all the basslines on Turbo are doubled by a synth but there is also actual bass guitar in the mix
Also the Painkiller album is all synth, no bass.
@@overdrive6687 Interesting, I thought Painkiller had actual bass on it? Hard to tell because Ian plays so very little to stand out.
@@markharc7615 It was revealed last year Don Airey played synth on Painkiller, and there’s no actual bass guitar on the record at all. I believe Hill was unable to play on the record because of sickness? I’m not sure.
@@overdrive6687 I recall Airey did some bass guidelines on synth in pre-production and they liked the sound so much they ended up keeping them. Plus some of those lines like the runs just before the first solo on the song 'Painkiller' would be next to impossible to play so tight on a real bass guitar.
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