Got 2019 with non X controller, changed bar, Sprocket (54T), chain, lowed pegs, got some better pegs, better breaks, sealed the wires under the motor with Molykote DC 4 an some shrink tubes, changed grips and now, I think I'm gonna go with 72v42A, 20kW. All the best for all Sur Ronnes from Poland! Cheers!
Nice vid, I didn't know much about the history of Sur-Ron before I bought mine in the summer of last year. Mine is completely stock except foot pegs, bash guard v2 and new brake pads. I couldn't be happier, it's plenty of power for my local trails. I have the programming cable, but I thought that was just so you could confirm your command was saved with the little red LED. Might be worth a shot to watch the Luna video and try it. I was able to turn off ebrake without removing any wiring, as well as turning the regen down a bit. Again, couldn't be happier. I look forward to your harescramble races. Looks fun! Take care.
I have the x model, they don't all have regeneration, Mine does not. And also I have the quarter turn "cable" throttle. So not just wire quarter turn available. Some people have had problems with the wire throttle. Absolutely love my sur ron best purchase ever,and what you get for the money is priceless!!!!
My son also didn't originally have regen breaking. They have a special wire that you're supposed to get with a bike to set your region setting but I mind it never come with it. Sounds like yours was similar.
Awesome video breaking down the year's of 🚲 🚵♀️ 🚴♀️ differences. The budget chain bash guard. Take a inner tube cut ✂️ to length. Cut it again, so its no longer a round tube shape. Wrap the tube onto frame,zip tie to hold it in place.
great vid, you nailed it. The only thing I didnt hear mentioned is the improved efficiency of the 2021 V2 "x" controller. its a bit more quiet and responsive also.
Depends on how hard your riding. They say it can go 60 miles on a charge, which I believe you can get if you doing a constant 15mph on the road. But if your riding hard like racing it, you get more like 25-30 miles on a charge.
Those Ludacris xx bikes look awesome. You have to already own a sur-ron to buy one? $4k doesn’t seem that bad compared to any other electric bike. I’d love to hear about the battery upgrades
I know at one point they had the special edition supermoto but they should make a “Super Surron” with 72v controler and battery and like fox 40 sus and 17in slick wheels and like better pegs handle bar and brakes
I bought an Aventon adventure and put close to 400 miles on it in a month... Ever since getting that bike ive seen so many videos of the sur ron. I loved to get one but there are so many variants I don't know which one to get?? Any suggestions
Great video, loved hearing the history. I am actually buying one on Friday the only thing im hung up on is if I should get the Surron Segway X260 or the Surron X. There is about a 300 dollar difference but I can get the X260 in two days, the Surron X won't ship out to maybe the end of May? What do you think? Are they really the exact same bike? I could really use your opinion and advice!!! Thank you!
I'd say the Sur-ron X through Luna Cycle is better overall. (I also have a video on the differences between the two). Luna has great costumer service in my opinion, but they're is that waiting untill after May, which I know can be a bummer not having your bike half the summer. On the other hand, the Segway x260 is pretty much the same at the Sur-ron but Ive heard not great things about they're customer service. The x260 it self is a great bike though, and I know from personal experience that working/fixing/problemsolving anything on these bikes can easily be found on the Sur-ron owners group page. Id honestly say go with the x260 if you can get it that much sooner. And if there is any problems with the bike that segway can't help with (which they're usually isn't with these bikes) you can join the Facebook owners group and easily figure it out. The Segway also has a slick app that can control the performance of the bike which I personally like.
Should I get a Talaria or SurRon? I’ll probably buy from Alibaba because they have them in stock and they’re cheaper. I’m 6’3 200/lbs and I’ll probably ride it stock for a while before I upgrade as I have no dirt bike experience.
good vid...although its $500 for the gates belt system...it is better in my opinion so far...very quiet...plus belts will last 3 times longer than chain & sprockets
@@shabbagucci9008 ... yes really...how about u tell me when u replace your chain n sprockets... and i'll let u know when i replace my belt...deal ???....lol
i’m 16 and wanting to buy a sur ron, i’m not sure what model to get, or weather to get road level or off road, as i’d like to be able to drive it on the roads, however they are restricted to 30 mph which is still quite fast but my friend has an off road sur ron x which goes 45 mph and also it’s just a 15 mph increase, it’s so much fun, also what other requirements are there for it to be road legal, like licenses, plates and insurance
Just bought my own sur ron a week ago, and got the road legal 2021 model, as it has two different modes on it, one being Eco which has the lower speed limit and then sport mode which has the increased speed, you would still get the performance basically regardless. At least from what I can tell. And at the end moving on you can always upgrade the bike with a higher end battery from Lightspeed and a new controller and tires, depending on what type of riding style you want. Road legal is mostly that you get the turn signals, mirrors and so on, at least that was what I got when I bought mine.
Is there any way to tell the difference, from pictures, between 2020 and 2021 improved Sur ron throttle? I see you put a picture of the Magura throttle with better stress relief on the cable wire in you video?
yes bro... 100%....its so quiet u will love it.... and until u upgrade yur battery n controller... it will be the best ever.... i'll let u know when i do upgrade to 72v/controller.... if it still rules.... i do think that if yur doi mostly street riding... u will be better off and more satisfied with the belt
Friend of a friend is asking $1900 for a 2021 with 200 miles on it and I’m thinking about buying it. Does that sound like a good price ? I might be able to negotiate it down to $1700 or $1800. What upgrades should I inquire about or consider ? I don’t know all that much about the 2021s overall so appreciate any feedback from other that do… 😊
Great video, does anyone know if you can buy the "street legal" version in USA? It comes with mirrors, blinkers, and turn signals, and is available in other countries, but I can't seem to find it here.
You can get a kit for those things online that would be easy to wire in. Still very unlikely it could be registered even if you got a professional installation. Why would you want it to be? Get the pedal pack and lie or run.
Sooo, im 15 and i want to buy a surron x, i live in greece and there are no laws for this kind of electric bikes, which surron is the one that is street legal but also fast?
Hmmm... I did not know that. I'd be interested in hearing more about this. I have a Ludicrous XX Black edition which came out in late 2020. How can I tell what version of throttle I might have...? and, is it dependent on the battery and controller..? I ask, but I have upgraded to a 72v and a BAC4000...Thanks in advance...
Good job, Mr. Historian. I'm not sure how you collected this information, but you should apply for a job as the official Sur-Ron/Luna Cycle N.A. historian. You could ask for upgraded parts for your Sur-Ron as pay. Thanks for the video.
The only sur ron video that I’ve seen that demonstrates what these e bikes? truly are electric motto cross and not e mountain bikes and if you want too ride them on the road they need to registered and insured no bike lanes no public trails and definitely no footpaths or on private property use only don’t get me wrong I love the bikes but are they bikes or electric motorcycles ?
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YOu should make one of these for each year. Liked and subbed
Got 2019 with non X controller, changed bar, Sprocket (54T), chain, lowed pegs, got some better pegs, better breaks, sealed the wires under the motor with Molykote DC 4 an some shrink tubes, changed grips and now, I think I'm gonna go with 72v42A, 20kW. All the best for all Sur Ronnes from Poland! Cheers!
if i buy the x controller can u put it on my 2019 version lbx ?
Nice vid, I didn't know much about the history of Sur-Ron before I bought mine in the summer of last year. Mine is completely stock except foot pegs, bash guard v2 and new brake pads. I couldn't be happier, it's plenty of power for my local trails.
I have the programming cable, but I thought that was just so you could confirm your command was saved with the little red LED. Might be worth a shot to watch the Luna video and try it. I was able to turn off ebrake without removing any wiring, as well as turning the regen down a bit. Again, couldn't be happier. I look forward to your harescramble races. Looks fun! Take care.
Thanks, I'm looking into purchasing a second hand bike & I learned more from this video than any other Sur-ron video.
I have the x model, they don't all have regeneration, Mine does not. And also I have the quarter turn "cable" throttle. So not just wire quarter turn available. Some people have had problems with the wire throttle. Absolutely love my sur ron best purchase ever,and what you get for the money is priceless!!!!
My son also didn't originally have regen breaking. They have a special wire that you're supposed to get with a bike to set your region setting but I mind it never come with it. Sounds like yours was similar.
@@electricisbetter ok interesting, thanks I will look into that. I bought mine second hand and thought it came with it, Maybe I do have it.
@@timjohnson9406 when in eco mode. Switch on left hand handle bar, regen is off. When in sport mode, Regen is turned on.
@@jasons9439 mine does not have regen, I can even program it in.
@@timjohnson9406 if your battery and controller are stock to the bike. Please reply with the date on the bottom of the battery?
Helluva good Review! Thank you 🙏. I just bought the Segway X260 & I absolutely love it. New Subscriber here 👊 🍻.
Awesome video breaking down the year's of 🚲 🚵♀️ 🚴♀️ differences.
The budget chain bash guard.
Take a inner tube cut ✂️ to length.
Cut it again, so its no longer a round tube shape. Wrap the tube onto frame,zip tie to hold it in place.
great vid, you nailed it. The only thing I didnt hear mentioned is the improved efficiency of the 2021 V2 "x" controller. its a bit more quiet and responsive also.
I've heard battery life falls quite short of spec. True?
Depends on how hard your riding. They say it can go 60 miles on a charge, which I believe you can get if you doing a constant 15mph on the road. But if your riding hard like racing it, you get more like 25-30 miles on a charge.
@@electricisbetter So in the trails barely about an hour. That's pretty restrictive unfortunately. Thanks so much for getting back.
I need this e.bike in my life ❤👍
Good video. Straight to the point.
Those Ludacris xx bikes look awesome. You have to already own a sur-ron to buy one? $4k doesn’t seem that bad compared to any other electric bike. I’d love to hear about the battery upgrades
I know at one point they had the special edition supermoto but they should make a “Super Surron” with 72v controler and battery and like fox 40 sus and 17in slick wheels and like better pegs handle bar and brakes
They’ll charge way more than if you just did it yourself
Looking at used ones where do you look to see what year it is? Is it stamped on the frame?
thanks for the content!!
New SurRon Storm is the best one for Adults .
I bought an Aventon adventure and put close to 400 miles on it in a month... Ever since getting that bike ive seen so many videos of the sur ron. I loved to get one but there are so many variants I don't know which one to get?? Any suggestions
Is there an updated video for the 23 model yet?
Great video, loved hearing the history. I am actually buying one on Friday the only thing im hung up on is if I should get the Surron Segway X260 or the Surron X. There is about a 300 dollar difference but I can get the X260 in two days, the Surron X won't ship out to maybe the end of May? What do you think? Are they really the exact same bike? I could really use your opinion and advice!!! Thank you!
I'd say the Sur-ron X through Luna Cycle is better overall. (I also have a video on the differences between the two). Luna has great costumer service in my opinion, but they're is that waiting untill after May, which I know can be a bummer not having your bike half the summer. On the other hand, the Segway x260 is pretty much the same at the Sur-ron but Ive heard not great things about they're customer service. The x260 it self is a great bike though, and I know from personal experience that working/fixing/problemsolving anything on these bikes can easily be found on the Sur-ron owners group page. Id honestly say go with the x260 if you can get it that much sooner. And if there is any problems with the bike that segway can't help with (which they're usually isn't with these bikes) you can join the Facebook owners group and easily figure it out. The Segway also has a slick app that can control the performance of the bike which I personally like.
THANKS!!
Should I get a Talaria or SurRon? I’ll probably buy from Alibaba because they have them in stock and they’re cheaper. I’m 6’3 200/lbs and I’ll probably ride it stock for a while before I upgrade as I have no dirt bike experience.
good vid...although its $500 for the gates belt system...it is better in my opinion so far...very quiet...plus belts will last 3 times longer than chain & sprockets
Really
@@shabbagucci9008 ... yes really...how about u tell me when u replace your chain n sprockets... and i'll let u know when i replace my belt...deal ???....lol
Deal
@@shabbagucci9008 NICE..... when did u get yur bike....i got mine aug 3 2021...i have 1600 miles on my belt so far... still goin
Awesome video like the way your ripping thru the course, are you going to get a 2021 model to do a reveiw ??
Probably not. I have all the same upgrades as the 2021 on my 2018. Minus the chain bash guard.
Do you know what will be on the 2022 bikes as upgrades from 2021
Awesome video, subscribed!
Will never be better than a real motorcross bike but still good
Have fun on ur heavy shit with stinky gas included, loud old and ugly!
Lmao my Ron x is going 82mph... mad?
@@McRemmyBaby have fun on you gay electric bike you plug in my little sister could ride 🤣🤣
@@p.h2485 seat extension n peg,
She would not fit... srry
Does the Light bee S just have smaller wheels 17 inch ? I'm assuming the frame is the same size and motor.
i’m 16 and wanting to buy a sur ron, i’m not sure what model to get, or weather to get road level or off road, as i’d like to be able to drive it on the roads, however they are restricted to 30 mph which is still quite fast but my friend has an off road sur ron x which goes 45 mph and also it’s just a 15 mph increase, it’s so much fun, also what other requirements are there for it to be road legal, like licenses, plates and insurance
Just bought my own sur ron a week ago, and got the road legal 2021 model, as it has two different modes on it, one being Eco which has the lower speed limit and then sport mode which has the increased speed, you would still get the performance basically regardless. At least from what I can tell. And at the end moving on you can always upgrade the bike with a higher end battery from Lightspeed and a new controller and tires, depending on what type of riding style you want. Road legal is mostly that you get the turn signals, mirrors and so on, at least that was what I got when I bought mine.
Just ordered a 2021 sur ron getting it in June or July pretty stocked.✌️
how much
Where did you order it from please
@@iwatchyoutube1090 ebikezilla
@@CadenTheFarmer Ebikezilla cannot sell bikes in the US. Are you sure you're getting a bike?
@@Tonyplat98 yep. I’m getting it in Canada.
yeet lets go🔥
Is there any way to tell the difference, from pictures, between 2020 and 2021 improved Sur ron throttle? I see you put a picture of the Magura throttle with better stress relief on the cable wire in you video?
Yes, the magura is the new e throttle. It look similar, but if you look closely they are a little different.
There is a distributor in Canada too, they are pushing Suron rebadged to armies like NZ I think LOL!
TY!! nice vid!!
Which of the 3 models Stock front forks do you prefer?
- DNM USD-8, FastAce Air Inverted, RST Killah?
Rst
@@electricisbetter what about the DNM vs FastAce, which one is best?
@@MathiasK9 I'd probably say dnm. They're all really similar performing.
Nice vidéo !
The real question is when is it in stock ? Nobody has one for sale
Hey man have you found anywhere that has them in stock?
@@derekberia7981 yeah I bought the last one they had at ebikes Hawaii
whats new for 2022?
Do you guys actually recommend the belt drive? I'm 56, no mudding, live in Arizona, mostly cruising (parks, golf courses at night, side walks ....)
yes bro... 100%....its so quiet u will love it.... and until u upgrade yur battery n controller... it will be the best ever.... i'll let u know when i do upgrade to 72v/controller.... if it still rules.... i do think that if yur doi mostly street riding... u will be better off and more satisfied with the belt
Friend of a friend is asking $1900 for a 2021 with 200 miles on it and I’m thinking about buying it. Does that sound like a good price ? I might be able to negotiate it down to $1700 or $1800. What upgrades should I inquire about or consider ? I don’t know all that much about the 2021s overall so appreciate any feedback from other that do… 😊
Very good deal!
Do all front forks use an air fork or spring fork? Great comparison btw.
Always air for front forks, spring and air for rear normally
Thank you for this
Are you riding at the Bike Barn????
Yup! It's where I go to practice.
Great video, does anyone know if you can buy the "street legal" version in USA? It comes with mirrors, blinkers, and turn signals, and is available in other countries, but I can't seem to find it here.
You could get it street legal but you would need a motorcycle liscnes and insuanrce
You can get a kit for those things online that would be easy to wire in. Still very unlikely it could be registered even if you got a professional installation. Why would you want it to be? Get the pedal pack and lie or run.
I have a 2019 , 2020 and 2021XX . Great video , great little bikes !
Best one ?
🐂💩
Nice
Sooo, im 15 and i want to buy a surron x, i live in greece and there are no laws for this kind of electric bikes, which surron is the one that is street legal but also fast?
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Can you add the new electric throttle to my old 2018 bike?
Yes
Anyone hear of the Surron ludicrous R 1/20 made ?
I'm 6ft would this bike be okay to get ?
I'm 6' 1". I don't mind it. They do have after market lift kits for it too. Which I have on it too
You forgot to mention that the 2020 throttle was programmed and had a delay they fixed that delay in the 2021 throttle
Hmmm... I did not know that. I'd be interested in hearing more about this. I have a Ludicrous XX Black edition which came out in late 2020. How can I tell what version of throttle I might have...? and, is it dependent on the battery and controller..? I ask, but I have upgraded to a 72v and a BAC4000...Thanks in advance...
How do I turn off region on the server on x how do I turn off regeneration on the surron X
Good job, Mr. Historian. I'm not sure how you collected this information, but you should apply for a job as the official Sur-Ron/Luna Cycle N.A. historian. You could ask for upgraded parts for your Sur-Ron as pay. Thanks for the video.
Just have owned the bike since 2018 and have stalked Sur-ron for upgrades and changes ever since 😂
@@electricisbetter Nice. Still, I think that historian position is open and I smell a name plaque with your name engraved on it.
I can't afford one 🤣
E bikes r excellent but I would not spend the money on it they are way too expensive they need to bring down the price
2021 made bikes NOT OUT YET
Neither get the b-52
The only sur ron video that I’ve seen that demonstrates what these e bikes? truly are electric motto cross and not e mountain bikes and if you want too ride them on the road they need to registered and insured no bike lanes no public trails and definitely no footpaths or on private property use only don’t get me wrong I love the bikes but are they bikes or electric motorcycles ?
Electric motorcycles
@@electricisbetter I agree ☝️ buddy they are great machines and getting better all the time
Hallo
India rupees
India launch me
Its actually the evolution of the atc.frame was used in motopeds.then suron copied moto peds
Electric is not better...
Talks about electric bikes but rides gas bikes the whole vide
I'm on the Sur-ron the whole time.