I had two takes on it, either everyone forgot how to fight Joker since he picked up Pythra Corrin and Byleth, or his Joker is better than it was in FB 2020
When Leo plays Aegis, Corrin, or Byleth...they still look recognizable the same character, just taken to their absolute limit. But Joker just looks...different. Like a new, Leo-exclusive character. Nobody plays Joker like that.
@@vaderglenn doesn't matter. Leo's may be leagues above other's but the tiers are based off of results and proven potential, even if the average player can't reach it.
@@-8h- Joker is obviously a top tier but a lot of people were crying that he’s easy or broken or something. Back when it was just Leo dominating. Joker isn’t broken, and he’s undoubtedly one of the hardest top tiers to play.
Before people would criticize Leo for playing Joker because of the character being the best character in Smash Ultimate. However since then, Leo has proven with his skills that it is not the character that was good, but the player and Joker simply happened to be the character that brings out his skills to the fullest potential. Like we have/had a couple of Jokers floating around but none of them are as refined as Leo's. Just watching his movement, the options, and how near optimized he uses every single tool from the character is on another level. He doesn't just only apply fundamentals or the textbook strategies and options but literally watching this set it felt like not just a game of trading blows, but an oppressive dance that keeps on changing. Like you see his guns, his aerials, tilts, and etc. just flowing into one another and constantly mixed up? It was like this character was designed just for him, and this is the usually benched Joker as well that may come out once in a blue moon. Nairo puts it best, like "if you didn't face a full set against MKLeo's Joker, did you really win against MKLeo?"
Truest statement ever. The only thing I'll add, is that MKleo before that tournament had been playing Joker and Optimizing Joker for over a month on his Stream. He just never pulled Joker out for a tournament and honestly he just decided to Flex his Joker practice to surprise everyone who doesn't follow his stream.
Joker isn't the best character in the game. Look at Mars trying to use joker. A top player like Mars would be winning everything if the character was the best but Mars does terrible with joker
Nah he made it clear that he was simultaneously #1 #2 #3 #4 and #5 in the world at the same time, with each character he plays it places a different top spot on the ranking
What's insane is how he switches to Joker and immediately plays the character as if he hadn't practiced anything else in years. Not a second of warming up on Joker required, he just runs the program.
I don't really follow the smash bros meta, I just see snippets of stuff like Steve complaining and Leo being good on Twitter, BUT ACTUALLY SEEING HIM PLAY IS LIKE WHIPLASH WTF. It's like they couldn't hit him and whenever they did hit him it didn't even matter because he lived and had 3 stocks left and whenever Leo hit someone it lead into a setup that dealt like 87% and killed. I knew he was good but seeing him play is totally different
Steve is cancer right now XD But tbh Sparg0 the #2 player in the world wasn't at Smashcon (which he would have won, because he actually has practice against the #1 Steve in the world and beats him, while Leo doesn't have practice against Steve) he would have squashed Ronins Steve. Also Leo didn't pull out his Joker, his best character. Joker and byleth only look so good, because of MkLeo. He is still the GOAT but Sparg0 is debatable to be there with him in skill currently, but without question Sparg0 will become the next best player of Smash bros here soon. Even MkLeo Believes Sparg0 will pass him soon and be the best player.
9:33 - Dude, your reactions are hilarious and amazing - so fun to watch and it's awesome to see how far you've come in Melee🎮 Wishing you nothing but the best in your future👊🏼
like how melee has many eras, such as the era of the five gods of melee, and smash 4 was the era of ZERO, now in ultimate we are in the era of MKLeo! i be like "bruh dis is sick!"
It was clear he IS the best in the world before he even brought out Joker. If anything, his Joker makes it feel like he's sandbagging because there's such a huge gap in skill between him and other top players.
Leo doesn’t stop playing certain characters because he wants to. He stops playing certain characters because he wants to give everyone else a fighting chance. He could just play a character that he’s mastered down to the core and win everything for the rest of this game’s existence. But alas, though he is a player in a tier of his own, he still tries his best to give everyone else a real chance at doing well at this game competitively.
I really hope leo brings out joker in summit this year, it’s so fun to watch. I’m a massive joker hater just cause I personally hate the character but Leo makes him look unbelievably cool. Super good stuff.
This is kind of late isn't it? He's already played at 2 majors where he refused to play the character, even taking the L at Smash Con because of it. I still can't figure out why he doesn't play this character more often.
He thinks it's boring or something. Like he's straight up said he has way more fun playing Byleth / Corrin / Aegis. And the fact that the man still competes for top 3-5 in the world with any of those characters is still crazy.
@@Xelief theres plenty crazy about competing at that level at all lmao, let alone with like four different characters. i know i sure couldnt do that with aegis, let alone either of my two d-tier mains, and you definitely cant either, unless youre sparg0's burner or smth.
I love watching Leo's Byleth and I main byleth myself. And while I think Byleth is a good character I feel like he play s Byleth for fun & because he knows he can still beat everyone playing Byleth but once he gets the Joker out it's clear how much of a gap there is between Leo & other players. Its a work of art.
This just proves that joker is still top tier.... even when you don't see him anymore he is still very much top tier and broken maybe still even top 10-5 or even more
Leo can make every character looks broken... Lucina, Ike, Wolf, Meta Knight, Joker, Byleth, Corrin, Rob, Aegis (almost broken already)... Even Greninja and Mewtwo!!!
MKLeo picking Joker has the same energy as Rock Lee taking the fuckin weights off against Gaara.
That is the most apt comparison I have ever heard for Leo joker
I had two takes on it, either everyone forgot how to fight Joker since he picked up Pythra Corrin and Byleth, or his Joker is better than it was in FB 2020
Didn't I just saw the same comment on Riddles video?
MKLeo really said “ok no more mr nice guy”
Are you sure that wasn’t Drake?
Stole that from Nathan Drake from Uncharted sir?
🤓🤓🤓🤓
@@DanielOfDuty
Nathan Drake saw this and was like "well damn, I'll give it to him just this once."
This really convinced me that Leo stopped playing joker simply because he got bored, and wanted to challenge himself with other characters
Well that wasn't true
When Leo plays Aegis, Corrin, or Byleth...they still look recognizable the same character, just taken to their absolute limit. But Joker just looks...different. Like a new, Leo-exclusive character. Nobody plays Joker like that.
when people cried about Joker being his own tier my like 2 years ago or w/e I'd just say, It's just Leo's Joker.
@@vaderglenn doesn't matter. Leo's may be leagues above other's but the tiers are based off of results and proven potential, even if the average player can't reach it.
You copied marss
@@-8h- Joker is obviously a top tier but a lot of people were crying that he’s easy or broken or something. Back when it was just Leo dominating. Joker isn’t broken, and he’s undoubtedly one of the hardest top tiers to play.
Naw. Look closer. Leo plays all of them like no one else.
Dabuz: *Taunts Leo*
Leo: *Picks Joker*
All of us: He dug his own grave.
It almost feels like Mkleo was just going easy on him until the disrespect
Before people would criticize Leo for playing Joker because of the character being the best character in Smash Ultimate. However since then, Leo has proven with his skills that it is not the character that was good, but the player and Joker simply happened to be the character that brings out his skills to the fullest potential.
Like we have/had a couple of Jokers floating around but none of them are as refined as Leo's. Just watching his movement, the options, and how near optimized he uses every single tool from the character is on another level. He doesn't just only apply fundamentals or the textbook strategies and options but literally watching this set it felt like not just a game of trading blows, but an oppressive dance that keeps on changing. Like you see his guns, his aerials, tilts, and etc. just flowing into one another and constantly mixed up? It was like this character was designed just for him, and this is the usually benched Joker as well that may come out once in a blue moon.
Nairo puts it best, like "if you didn't face a full set against MKLeo's Joker, did you really win against MKLeo?"
Truest statement ever.
The only thing I'll add, is that MKleo before that tournament had been playing Joker and Optimizing Joker for over a month on his Stream. He just never pulled Joker out for a tournament and honestly he just decided to Flex his Joker practice to surprise everyone who doesn't follow his stream.
@@rocklob069 bro, literally the first ever tournament match for ult Leo chooses bayo and people get pissed
I’m pretty sure Leo has proven it was his skill carrying the character before He picked up joker, dude was winning majors with Ike lmao
@@MystifyPhD And Wolf and Lucina.
Joker isn't the best character in the game. Look at Mars trying to use joker. A top player like Mars would be winning everything if the character was the best but Mars does terrible with joker
Nah he made it clear that he was simultaneously #1 #2 #3 #4 and #5 in the world at the same time, with each character he plays it places a different top spot on the ranking
😂
Top 5 Smash Players(unordered)
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@@themonkeyman2910 lol exactly
You beautiful genius, you’re so right 😂
In one way or another, you are right
Tweek is a really good player but not even he has an even remotely similar skill level to leo
Melee had the five gods, Ultimate only has one. MKLeo.
Do you remember when tweek and Leo was the source of debate between who was number 1 lmaoooo
@@turntech4776 I remember only leo
@@turntech4776 I do. I miss when Tweek was that consistent, he’s one of my top 3 fav players to watch
@@ryan_raus he did alright at smash con!
@@turntech4776 it was close at the time. Could have probably still been if tweek didn't change his main every month.
Leo Joker is the secret boss character at the end of the Arcade Mode of the fighting game that you can only fight if you get the specific requirements
*Leo playing Aegis*
"Babe, come over!", "I can't, I'm in a tourney." "My parents aren't home."
*Joker*
Leo with Aegis is Yugi Moto
Leo with Joker is Atem, King of Games.
Man really hit the "ok let me take out my main lol"
The best way to describe MKleo character moments
Byleth - he’s smurfing
Pyra/Mythra - he’s cheating
Joker - he’s hacking
Corrin: ???
@@bounce9568 He's drunk
You are not worthy.
Leo's Joker is still just so unbelievably good. Holy crap.
It’s better then before go watch a set before Covid his joker is faster and moves smoothly
leo makes gun look like the best move in the game istg
It's one of them, for sure. The majority of joker players don't use it well
Leo really loves that gun. He’s insane.
*he wields a gun* intensifies
9:00 Dabuz: Why do I hear boss music on top of boss music?
This is proof that Joker is indeed the ultimate wild card!
Dabuz’s first mistake was not immediately sd’ing 3 times immediately when facing game 4 leo
Joker is still the coolest DLC character, I don't care what anybody says.
Although Sephiroth is close.
Nah bro it's obviously Steve
If I'm Dabuz, I take heart that I at least made him go Joker.
By taunting him
What's insane is how he switches to Joker and immediately plays the character as if he hadn't practiced anything else in years. Not a second of warming up on Joker required, he just runs the program.
I don't really follow the smash bros meta, I just see snippets of stuff like Steve complaining and Leo being good on Twitter, BUT ACTUALLY SEEING HIM PLAY IS LIKE WHIPLASH WTF. It's like they couldn't hit him and whenever they did hit him it didn't even matter because he lived and had 3 stocks left and whenever Leo hit someone it lead into a setup that dealt like 87% and killed. I knew he was good but seeing him play is totally different
Steve is cancer right now XD
But tbh Sparg0 the #2 player in the world wasn't at Smashcon (which he would have won, because he actually has practice against the #1 Steve in the world and beats him, while Leo doesn't have practice against Steve) he would have squashed Ronins Steve.
Also Leo didn't pull out his Joker, his best character. Joker and byleth only look so good, because of MkLeo.
He is still the GOAT but Sparg0 is debatable to be there with him in skill currently, but without question Sparg0 will become the next best player of Smash bros here soon. Even MkLeo Believes Sparg0 will pass him soon and be the best player.
When he wants to win, he's on his own level above everyone else. It's nuts
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Let’s get this comment noticed people!
every time i see that joker, it's like i'm watching a dancer. he just FLOATS around the stage, his guns are PERFECTLY aimed, GOD it's beautiful
He took 2 stocks before the first Arsene lol
MKLeo picking joker is like Kurapika pulling out the shovel he told us with the action it was about be a burial
Now tweek needs to pull out PT and mop up a tournament. Both Leo and him push the game to its limits imo.
9:03 me when I see a green haired vague clown figure holding a sign in public
💀💀💀💀💀💀
When i see joker behaves in Ultimate it looks like he is straight outta melee
Leo is just built different
Imagine Leo picks up Steve and its just the end of competitive smash
14:58 Literally you when all the other gods left melee and you were on the top for years
9:33 - Dude, your reactions are hilarious and amazing - so fun to watch and it's awesome to see how far you've come in Melee🎮 Wishing you nothing but the best in your future👊🏼
It’s almost like Leo stopped playing Joker so the Smash community could catch up to his level
I thought I was gonna get to see Joker fight, but all I did was witness a murder.
Everyone:Steve to broken
Mkleo:You wanna see broken
And just like neutral special, Leo's Joker is the smoking gun to end the tourney
like how melee has many eras, such as the era of the five gods of melee, and smash 4 was the era of ZERO, now in ultimate we are in the era of MKLeo! i be like "bruh dis is sick!"
Him bringing Joker out and his gameplay made it very clear: He is still one of, if not the best player in the world.
What are you talking about it's unanimously agreed he is the #1 player in the world
hes obviously the best its been that way since ult came out
It was clear he IS the best in the world before he even brought out Joker. If anything, his Joker makes it feel like he's sandbagging because there's such a huge gap in skill between him and other top players.
"He is still one"
Bruh 💀
I know you're already being flamed but this comment was stupid 👍
YOU'LL NEVER SEE IT COMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING
CUUMAAAAAAAIIIING
They really never saw it coming
Bro this tournament is something else
MKLeo really out here with that ultra instinct joker.
they never saw it coming
I really truly believe this all happened because partially because LEO hates min but mainly cuz dabuz taunted lol
Glad me and hungry box both agree that Joker was the pinnacle of Fighter Pass 1
#JOKERSWEEP BABY
When leo plays joker its like art its like how he was meant to be played joker just waits for only leo to pick him and is like finally im unleashed
Leo doesn’t stop playing certain characters because he wants to.
He stops playing certain characters because he wants to give everyone else a fighting chance.
He could just play a character that he’s mastered down to the core and win everything for the rest of this game’s existence.
But alas, though he is a player in a tier of his own, he still tries his best to give everyone else a real chance at doing well at this game competitively.
I agree, I wouldn't even be mad if I got smacked this hard from leos joker. Its almost like, comical how far the gap is so you just accept it.
He came back to my boi... Lets go (Or his boi I guess XD)
daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn leo looking like all might with that joker , literally that was beyond plus ultra
Leo can make any character look fun. Aegis, Joker, Corrin… hell, I bet he could make Min Min look fun too.
Leo's joker doesn't even need arsen. It's so clean. Mars take notes.... This is how to play joker
I really hope leo brings out joker in summit this year, it’s so fun to watch. I’m a massive joker hater just cause I personally hate the character but Leo makes him look unbelievably cool. Super good stuff.
Leo and joker are on another level! And the gun plays are so fun to watch.
mkleo is amazing, and a hero to all in smash ultimate.
Leo’s Joker is by far my favorite one of his mains to watch
Leo teaches us to be happy he doesn't play steve
9:32 fav moment lmao
"what is he doing? He's Hacking!" gets me everytime lolol
Papa box came out when liquid members were on screen. Love the dedication to the brand1
Saw that gun sequence in the first set on stream, filthy then, filthy now.
Mkleo's joker is the superman.😂
Melee takes out joker = when Tyson got told by Ali “get him for me”
Bro someone give Little Z the clown nose because Joker Is still saucy
Did Z say otherwise? Who doesn't think Joker is saucy?
@@SleepyFawn since joker had less result he said he isn't top 3 anymore
Leo is just different man
MKLeo has mastered the gun
Leo literally just pulled out the Joker so he could win the tournament quickly and go to bed.
#0 in the world. Period.
bro that was like 3 weeks ago already💀💀💀
game 4 leo just got even more hype
"Its not even my main"
*YOULL NEVER SEE IT COMAAAAAAAAAA-*
This is kind of late isn't it? He's already played at 2 majors where he refused to play the character, even taking the L at Smash Con because of it. I still can't figure out why he doesn't play this character more often.
He thinks it's boring or something. Like he's straight up said he has way more fun playing Byleth / Corrin / Aegis. And the fact that the man still competes for top 3-5 in the world with any of those characters is still crazy.
@@alexhooper6625 top 1-2*
@@alexhooper6625 There's nothing crazy about competing at that level with Aegis.
@@Xelief theres plenty crazy about competing at that level at all lmao, let alone with like four different characters. i know i sure couldnt do that with aegis, let alone either of my two d-tier mains, and you definitely cant either, unless youre sparg0's burner or smth.
@@alexhooper6625 top 3 - 5 lol
Perfectly said! “It’s just a different tier” mkleo the 🐐
You really can't be mad at Leo with that performance
Whelp. There goes ANY hope others had of winning major tournaments🤣
Bro he unleaded his persona
I love watching Leo's Byleth and I main byleth myself. And while I think Byleth is a good character I feel like he play s Byleth for fun & because he knows he can still beat everyone playing Byleth but once he gets the Joker out it's clear how much of a gap there is between Leo & other players.
Its a work of art.
mkleo couldn't contain the silliness
His joker seemed unreal
This just proves that joker is still top tier.... even when you don't see him anymore he is still very much top tier and broken maybe still even top 10-5 or even more
Top 3, no contest
Hey hungry box why don’t you make any vods over your tournament matches?
14:59 he says that even though he was one of the gods of melee
Hbox is about to hit 500k ☻
A literal wildcard.
The only #1 who the crowd loves
Leo proving Joker is the best character in the game, but that only he can play him to that level.
*Steve:*
Leo says you wanna be the best? You best not miss
He's back until Steve rolls up
Bruh, MkLeo going Joker against Dabuzz Ming Ming be like
*Okay F***ck You and your Ming Ming* >Proceeds to speedruns Dabuzz maliciously
Leo just plays 4D chess
Leo can make every character looks broken... Lucina, Ike, Wolf, Meta Knight, Joker, Byleth, Corrin, Rob, Aegis (almost broken already)... Even Greninja and Mewtwo!!!
People who say „ban joker“ will never reach the SKILL in their lives
As a Young Link, and Joker main myself, this news makes me very happy!
We play the same characters lets go
@@freeze_electric It's pretty neat you play the same characters as I do^
@@Jayesbe we got good taste 🤝
@@freeze_electric True that!
Oh yeah buz nice!
i forgot about the monstrosity that is mkleos joker waw
I think anyone in the world that can "master" Shulk might be MKLeo
Yessir he brought joker back
Makes you think. Either Leo was bored, or got tired of hearing he was "carried" by joker. Are the doubters satisfied now?
Should change his tag to Mr. Sandbag lmao
Leo using Pyra or Byleth is just Leo giving you some advantage.