@@prismabenddc5117 to be fair, maybe it is a major because of the scale of the event (venue, attendance, coverage etc...) if that's what thomas meant then yeah.
@@CleAnMaper Lumirank, Kingcon was an A+ tier event (major). It had Sparg0, Leo, Marss, Neo, Bloom4Eva, Raflow, Sisqui and Apollokage, all top 50 players, as well as many other strong players and 800+ entrants. Maybe since we've had a lot of Supermajors recently (Genesis, LMBM, Umebura) you expect things of that scale
His Byleth was so much fun to watch but discovering Byleth’s bad matchups took the wind out of his sails. What hurt Leo the most was his noncommittal approach, where he half heartedly played multiple characters instead of committing to a select few
For almost 3 and a half years he was the undisputed best player in the world getting 1st as a norm and in a bad day getting 2nd, people saying he's not good and shit don't get what kind of talent and gained skill you have to wield to accomplish that craziness
@@broadcliff5842 ok but bro consistently didn't get top 8 like almost all of last year. I think it's fair to say he was either not taking it seriously or bro was washed last year.
It doesn’t even matter where he placed last year. He literally brought Ultimate’s gameplay standards up tremendously higher than it ever was and he did it with characters that no one thought were even viable to do so. He’s also the only person in all of Ultimate to consistently place first and second with a roster of like 9 different tournament level character picks. And he did that just because he got really bored using Joker and Byleth all the time. That’s why he’s the GOAT.
@@lazerman3686 Ok 2 things 1. There were quite a few tournaments where he missed top 16, although it wasn't the majority 2. Him getting top 16 actually DOES mean he's washed because it means he's not getting the same placements as he used to. Being washed doesn't mean that the person is bad (no intelligent person in their right mind would call Mkleo bad) but it DOES mean that he no longer is as good as he was in his prime.
happy as I always am to see these titans in play, I think smashers are SO entitled. We're privileged to watch players like Sonix and Acola piloting those characters at a level most competitive players can't even imagine doing themselves. People hated HBox and now he's a legend. People hated Maister and he's beloved by the Ult community. Smash isn't just about the people watching it, and if you can't see the poetry in motion when those players are at their best, you don't really love the game enough.
@@mannya.h.967 Genesis final was whack , and if the game had those kind of MU taking over from the start, the esport would never have been popular in the first place . So many melee bracket matches were better than ultimate finals . Do you have to love every mu to love the game ? Cause i think the enjoyability of ultimate as a player and spectator varies a lot between MU . The game just isnt' perfect but has really cool things going for it aswell
@@mannya.h.967 Talk about yourself, i hate watching these two. Maister is loved because of his personality even though he uses a character not many like, on the contrary, sonix was known to be kinda toxic and acola is a litteral robot, you cant empathize with them and they use the 2 most hated characters.
@@martinluther123 yeah last time true game 4 Leo came out and actually succeeded was at super elite monthly series vs Z (diddy kong player), but lately it seems other top players like Sparg0 Gackt and Tweek are immune to true game 4 Leo reverse 3-0's
The Mkleo Effect: the grand finals of a lesser known European major beats the viewer count of the grand finals of one of the most prestigious smash tournaments ever (genesis x) in a matter of days
I will always hope for Mkleo to get back in form, as his characters and plays are so hype. When they are on point it feels like the opponent can't do anything but get frame trapped in every option they take. Amazing play from Mkleo this called back to me like just the year before Covid when Mkleo was on the undisputed lifetime winning run of Smash Ultimate.
If anyone knows of a better recovery than what MkLeo put on display here at 10:10 please tag me in it. The sequence here was beyond crazy. Not only did he recover, but he also regained neutral from the corner immediately. Dudes not real
@@isuck6049 saying that Sonix was “carried” by Sonic to second place at Genesis X is just laughable. When will y’all stop crying and accept that the slow-paced top tiers still take skill to play? 😂
If I'm not wrong leo has won every tournament with King in its name. If not my b. Glad to see him win again. Hope this is really the start of his comeback.
Joker hasn't looked this clean since G9 glad to see a mostly solo run AND FINALLY Leo making some changes to his play! He dominated cloud off stage and refused to let him use limit. Such solid play 👏🐐
I don't think how the community reacts to Leo losing something is necessarily a contradictory thing to his status as the GOAT. For most players, getting top 8 at a major is considered a huge demonstration of skill and proof that they are one of the best, and the community generally celebrates their strong performance. For Leo, getting second place at a super major will still have people calling him washed. If you think about it, that's actually a direct reflection of the fact that people still consider him the GOAT and is in many ways a massive compliment- the community's standards for Leo are just higher than they are for other top players- it's proof of how much he has already achieved compared to everyone else and is in a weird way a sign of respect- anyone who calls him washed for such a high tournament position actually proves that their expectation from a man of his caliber was a straight up win- anything less is under performance.
@@wuhhlfarg353 you just want super high expectation on someone who doesn't necessarily want number 1 anymore, grow up first and make better opinions next time man
I love watching these two compete! Always close sets, so many layers of reads and adjustments, impeccable conversions, and absolute class and respect shown by both players at the end of every match.
yeah, i think kda or lol animation music video vibes would really suite smash ultimate story line, like for example making music video about top player's main fighting each other, it would be really hype, i wish they do it for a very big tournament like for example if their gonna advertise a possible evo smash ultimate tournament lol
definitely miss leo's byleth but if that means he plays joker more than it's well worth it! one of the most enjoyable things to watch in this game for sure
It's been a while since we saw Leo beat Sparg0. The way he plays joker here feels way more careful than what I'm used to seeing. I guess he has to play this way against Sparg0's playstyle.
I feel like a football fan that just won a bet on his team. Mkleo really proved himself against the most skilled player in the world. I was rooting for him the whole time. Damn what an amazing player.
It's okay if Leo doesn't take the next one. I want him to solidify what worked here by continuing to test and develop his game plan more, and that's failing better/forward.
doesnt mean he back on top but tbh, Leo fans needed this lol we know he can still do it and honestly, HE knows it now too, so maybe hell make his way back on top
Excuse me, but, can you guys upload the smash ultimate doubles sets vods from King Con, please? At least grand, winners' and losers' finals, please ☺️ Thank you! 🙏
I heard that EEvisu and ether, who makes the ranking in X, are the same person, but I'm Japanese and I don't know much about it, but watching EEvisu's distribution, it didn't seem that way at all, it seemed like he was supporting Leo all the time. I have the impression that ether is not supporting Leo.
The King is back!
We haven't seen the king since genesis 9 don't cap
I hate how people say that whenever he wins
@@KingObliv why
i can't believe leo returned from hawaii and then immediately won a major !! honestly my goat
How is this a major?, only two names were Leo and Sparg0.
@@CleAnMa Raflow, Bloom4eva, Neo, Tarik? Many big names where involved tbh
@@prismabenddc5117 So no Tweek, Gluto, Light, Sonix, Ridles, Maister, Muteace, Dabuz... okay.
@@prismabenddc5117 to be fair, maybe it is a major because of the scale of the event (venue, attendance, coverage etc...) if that's what thomas meant then yeah.
@@CleAnMaper Lumirank, Kingcon was an A+ tier event (major).
It had Sparg0, Leo, Marss, Neo, Bloom4Eva, Raflow, Sisqui and Apollokage, all top 50 players, as well as many other strong players and 800+ entrants.
Maybe since we've had a lot of Supermajors recently (Genesis, LMBM, Umebura) you expect things of that scale
its been too long since i heard the roar of the "LETS GO LEO" chant in full force 😭🙏 shits MAGNIFICENT
We can forget that there was a time where MKleo did this for like 5 years in a row 😂.
He never should've left Joker.
Joker sucks
He's been insane with a number of characters. He probably learned things about Joker from using different characters for a while
His Byleth was so much fun to watch but discovering Byleth’s bad matchups took the wind out of his sails. What hurt Leo the most was his noncommittal approach, where he half heartedly played multiple characters instead of committing to a select few
maybe he had to leave him just to come back to him
@@ClimbingKeenlies, he just difficult to play. At that point kaz sucks too
Did anyone notice that Leo 1:34 used up b instead of air dodge to avoid getting hit by the limit? That just blew my mind
How can he press up b twice? I cant do a double jump recovery like that
@@oriolysmedia some characters can Up B twice or more in the air, most of them are those who have tether recoveries
Leo decided that his pockets were too empty
Watching Leo’s Joker will never not be hype. When his reads are on point, it’s so obvious why he was #1 for years. Hope he gets it back
For almost 3 and a half years he was the undisputed best player in the world getting 1st as a norm and in a bad day getting 2nd, people saying he's not good and shit don't get what kind of talent and gained skill you have to wield to accomplish that craziness
@@broadcliff5842 ok but bro consistently didn't get top 8 like almost all of last year. I think it's fair to say he was either not taking it seriously or bro was washed last year.
It doesn’t even matter where he placed last year. He literally brought Ultimate’s gameplay standards up tremendously higher than it ever was and he did it with characters that no one thought were even viable to do so.
He’s also the only person in all of Ultimate to consistently place first and second with a roster of like 9 different tournament level character picks. And he did that just because he got really bored using Joker and Byleth all the time. That’s why he’s the GOAT.
@@infernomaster1030 just because he's "not top 8" and instead top 16 does NOT mean he's washed, most players would kill for top 100
@@lazerman3686 Ok 2 things
1. There were quite a few tournaments where he missed top 16, although it wasn't the majority
2. Him getting top 16 actually DOES mean he's washed because it means he's not getting the same placements as he used to. Being washed doesn't mean that the person is bad (no intelligent person in their right mind would call Mkleo bad) but it DOES mean that he no longer is as good as he was in his prime.
Bro this near made me cry man. Always so special and a masterclass when these two play. No Steve or sonic bs, just actual interaction. Leo’s BACK
happy as I always am to see these titans in play, I think smashers are SO entitled. We're privileged to watch players like Sonix and Acola piloting those characters at a level most competitive players can't even imagine doing themselves. People hated HBox and now he's a legend. People hated Maister and he's beloved by the Ult community. Smash isn't just about the people watching it, and if you can't see the poetry in motion when those players are at their best, you don't really love the game enough.
@@mannya.h.967 Genesis final was whack , and if the game had those kind of MU taking over from the start, the esport would never have been popular in the first place . So many melee bracket matches were better than ultimate finals . Do you have to love every mu to love the game ? Cause i think the enjoyability of ultimate as a player and spectator varies a lot between MU . The game just isnt' perfect but has really cool things going for it aswell
@@mannya.h.967 Talk about yourself, i hate watching these two. Maister is loved because of his personality even though he uses a character not many like, on the contrary, sonix was known to be kinda toxic and acola is a litteral robot, you cant empathize with them and they use the 2 most hated characters.
@@AlainReyes"acola a literal robot" Because y'all would jump him if he showed ANY confidence as a Steve main
Spargo seemed so frustrated in the last game. Never saw him this upset
People joke all the time about game 4 Leo but its easy to forget how fucking terrifying he is on game 4 evident by this match
Didn't work at Genesis 😔
Thats not how game 4 Leo is supposed to work. Game 4 Leo is supposed to do crazy comebacks.
@@martinluther123 yeah last time true game 4 Leo came out and actually succeeded was at super elite monthly series vs Z (diddy kong player), but lately it seems other top players like Sparg0 Gackt and Tweek are immune to true game 4 Leo reverse 3-0's
@@martinluther123Bs take. When MKLeo fought Light at Genesis 9 in game 4, he took 2 stocks while only being at around 10%, reading him like a book!
The Mkleo Effect: the grand finals of a lesser known European major beats the viewer count of the grand finals of one of the most prestigious smash tournaments ever (genesis x) in a matter of days
本当にこの2人の試合は見応えがある！
Leo優勝おめでとう！
The king sits on the throne once more 💜
SK's into competitive smash??
@@electricboogaloo11 hell yeah, I've even competed a bit in my region!!
@@sk_555I’m into clash and smash too, thats awdsome
@@sk_555 what character do you main?
@@isuck6049 Pokémon Trainer!!
リミットブレイクと、アルセーヌで二人とも青いオーラ纏うのが、スパーゴとレオ天才二人の覚醒状態みたいな感じで、キャラとプレーヤーがリンクしててかっこいい
14:34
Spargo: can I get back on the platform please???
Leo: nah we ain’t done till I say we’re done.
Dumb comment.
Leo finally back from Hawaii
fellow Nairo enjoyer 😎
nairo gonna have fun with this one
@@djhanirharrissmith4494 yuck, groomers
@@lucky3374ban nairo
@@lucky3374just like how he has fun with kids
I will always hope for Mkleo to get back in form, as his characters and plays are so hype. When they are on point it feels like the opponent can't do anything but get frame trapped in every option they take. Amazing play from Mkleo this called back to me like just the year before Covid when Mkleo was on the undisputed lifetime winning run of Smash Ultimate.
If anyone knows of a better recovery than what MkLeo put on display here at 10:10 please tag me in it. The sequence here was beyond crazy. Not only did he recover, but he also regained neutral from the corner immediately. Dudes not real
Shuton down airing a Pikmin to recover as Richter. In all seriousness though, Leo's recovery was INSANE. His air dodges are on POINT
Leo is a demon bro
The air dodge at 6:53 on reaction was absolutely insane
Start at 6:50 to see it
"WE might be seeing another Arsene"
"He doesn't even need it"
Lmao
Why was this more hype than genesis
Genesis top 8 was a snorefest for a super major. This was more hype than any set in the top 8.
@@TehWhiteTiger Bro forgot about Tweek vs Tea
@@BOOMdaGOD that and maybe grands, considering it was just sonix being carried by sonic up until 2nd place once again
Cuz it's two Mexicans fighting for a green card
@@isuck6049 saying that Sonix was “carried” by Sonic to second place at Genesis X is just laughable. When will y’all stop crying and accept that the slow-paced top tiers still take skill to play? 😂
The throne belongs to the real King
If I'm not wrong leo has won every tournament with King in its name. If not my b.
Glad to see him win again. Hope this is really the start of his comeback.
He deserved it, this time.
Joker hasn't looked this clean since G9 glad to see a mostly solo run AND FINALLY Leo making some changes to his play! He dominated cloud off stage and refused to let him use limit. Such solid play 👏🐐
Damn Sparg0 got framed trapped for the entire last game lol
spargo was looking reeaaal tight that last game. bro was tilted
Leo is the definition of the protagonist. Main character if you will
"wake up babe, Leo decided to put an effort in"
Now everyone is calling him goat, and when he loses they start calling him washed 😂
This community needs therapy 😂
All communities are filled with fair weather fans. This includes athletic sports.
I have never agreed more to a comment in my life
Well with all he has done he is the goat but id still call him Washed compared to what he used to be
I don't think how the community reacts to Leo losing something is necessarily a contradictory thing to his status as the GOAT.
For most players, getting top 8 at a major is considered a huge demonstration of skill and proof that they are one of the best, and the community generally celebrates their strong performance.
For Leo, getting second place at a super major will still have people calling him washed.
If you think about it, that's actually a direct reflection of the fact that people still consider him the GOAT and is in many ways a massive compliment- the community's standards for Leo are just higher than they are for other top players- it's proof of how much he has already achieved compared to everyone else and is in a weird way a sign of respect- anyone who calls him washed for such a high tournament position actually proves that their expectation from a man of his caliber was a straight up win- anything less is under performance.
@@wuhhlfarg353 you just want super high expectation on someone who doesn't necessarily want number 1 anymore, grow up first and make better opinions next time man
Man Leo was all in Spargo head this set you can tell by his body gestures he wasn’t feeling that joker lmao. 😭
16:13 - wins a major - "Well then I guess thats it."
During 4 years, winning a major was just a casual Sunday for MKLeo.
14:32 Leo really went off on the edge guards. Spargo couldn’t do anything. But amazing plays from both players! Rooting for you Leo!
Getting a big 4 win in this era is honestly more impressive than winning a tournament lowkey.
The Spargo reactions are so funny 😂 7:25
Y’all really chose the worst photos for the thumbnail
Mkleo's joker is a work of art of Smash
I love watching these two compete! Always close sets, so many layers of reads and adjustments, impeccable conversions, and absolute class and respect shown by both players at the end of every match.
Hearing everyone cheer for Leo at full crowd brings so much memories back. The chills I get seeing him win is still amazing.
Everyone is judging Joker here based on one of his better matchups - cloud.
Leo was playing so good. He had spargo frustrated
The King, The only 🐐
I miss the era of 2019, it was the year of Mkleo ! I hope he's back
that's the prime mkleo joker ledge trap i remember.
16:07 That's exactly why I never do ledge drop double jump.
It's so risky because if your opponent punishes you, now, you're off stage without a jump.
That game four was amazing!
Its time to solo main joker. Look at the competition, most of them solo main a character and get gut
Y'all did MKLeo and Spargo dirty in the thumbnail
yeah, i think kda or lol animation music video vibes would really suite smash ultimate story line, like for example making music video about top player's main fighting each other, it would be really hype, i wish they do it for a very big tournament like for example if their gonna advertise a possible evo smash ultimate tournament lol
That would be absolutely insane
Seeing Leo on Joker again fills me with the most joy and excitement I've had for this game since 2019
Im glad that Leo and Tweek are back!
Bro Cooked Spargo. Watch Spargos face during the last game. Sheeeeeeesh
The last game wasn't even close 😂
definitely miss leo's byleth but if that means he plays joker more than it's well worth it! one of the most enjoyable things to watch in this game for sure
It's been a while since we saw Leo beat Sparg0. The way he plays joker here feels way more careful than what I'm used to seeing. I guess he has to play this way against Sparg0's playstyle.
Leo necesitaba que alguien lo supere momentaneamente para volver a sentirse motivado por competir! Leo no para maaaas!
Congrats, Leo. Insane gameplay, love to see it.
The symbol of peace has returned!!!
I feel like a football fan that just won a bet on his team. Mkleo really proved himself against the most skilled player in the world. I was rooting for him the whole time. Damn what an amazing player.
OMG He was all over Spargo in that last match, I couldn't breathe, great set to both!!
Good job Leo. You'll be back spargoat, you always are 💪🏾
It's okay if Leo doesn't take the next one. I want him to solidify what worked here by continuing to test and develop his game plan more, and that's failing better/forward.
Sparg0 needed some coffee, bro looked tired af
Leo joker played so well this tournament and as a joker man this was really nice to see
doesnt mean he back on top but tbh, Leo fans needed this lol we know he can still do it and honestly, HE knows it now too, so maybe hell make his way back on top
Dos mexicanos disputando el campeonato en una final?! ASI ES WEY!!
Dude that was such a smooth set GGs to both players! Happy that Leo getting back on his grind
THE LEGEND IN BACK🤘
frustrating how rare Leo tries
親の顔より見たGrand Final
Love seeing spargo rage in the player cam 😂😂
Godlike Leo and anxiety Sparg0 are back!
久々に優勝したleo見れてうれしい！おめでとう！
Alguien recuerda yn enfrentamiento en el cual spargo usa a Byleth y Leo a Aegis ? Recuerdo que incluso edtaban sentados a lado
Can someone please let me know why MKLeo go by Seulgi in game ? Thank you
His favorite Kpop singer
@@gerardoortega323 thank you 🙏🏽
I love Spargo but always hated Cloud Strife as a character so I can't be mad about this.
I think this guys never bothered training a day in his life so now he’s trying😂😂😂
Joker the hardest working top tier if you think about it
The king has returned!
Congrats both players, no doubt you made this game still rocks
スパーゴのメンタルが壊された試合初めて見たわ
MY GLORIOUS KING MKLEO
Congratulations Leo, you deserve it this time.
4戦目のレオというのはやはり別格やねぇ
The true king is back! ✊🏾🇲🇽🔥
おかえり！
Excuse me, but, can you guys upload the smash ultimate doubles sets vods from King Con, please? At least grand, winners' and losers' finals, please ☺️ Thank you! 🙏
They weren't streamed so probably not recorded. The tournament wasn't run that well apparently
@@JackBz Wow. Thanks for the info. Much appreciated. Also... How disappointing 😭 Would've loved to see Skyjay-Sparg0, Leo-BigBoss, & Andres-Sisqui 🥹💔
He was gone for a minute but he’s back now so sit the fuck back down 😤😤😤
this mf leo is so cold i feel like im watching peak bulls jordan when hes on, most exciting player to watch fs
lmao Leo has that Ozempic prescription.
Spargo is my hero but Leo remains the GOAT
Joker bodies cloud, ive always thought that. Leo sandbags for his ego... No more!!
LETS GO LETS GOOOO MKLEOOOOOOOOOO. Always happy to see him win 🏆 💙
やっぱりレオが王者なのが一番良い
SURPRISE SURPRISE THE KING IS BACK
Que humilllaaaaaadoooootaaaaaaaa le dieron al spargo jajajajajajjaja
Only Zackray and Mkleo have achieved the triple threat trophy. Win a major in Europe, Japan, & NA
From what I’ve heard it’s Zackray and Tea. Leo has not won majors in jp only small tournaments.
@@davewu8938Leo won Evo Japan 2018 ssb4
@@CaliLifeStyle8o5I think people are specifically talking about ultimate when they mention the triple major stat.
leo technically hasn't done it in ult yet since he hasn't won an ult major in japan
Would you all agree that Zackray is more Goated than Marss in the history of Ultimate?
I thought that was light at the end happy that spargo lost lmao its been awhile since peak leo but here he is vs peak spargo 👌👌
nah that BAPE X Faze Clan Hoodie that Spargo is fitted with is fire!!!
I heard that EEvisu and ether, who makes the ranking in X, are the same person, but I'm Japanese and I don't know much about it, but watching EEvisu's distribution, it didn't seem that way at all, it seemed like he was supporting Leo all the time. I have the impression that ether is not supporting Leo.
They're definitely not the same person
@@JackBz thank you