MKLEO'S NEW TOURNAMENT CHARACTER
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
- Clearly MkLeo wasn't content with being an amazing Byleth, Joker, Aegis, or even his rarely seen Greninja - but he's prepared ANOTHER tournament character that's already ready to win events! At this big tournament we see him pull out an all new character we've yet to see him play.
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The fact that Leo keeps forcing underrated characters into the meta is a true testament to his skill.
Its good for the meta, I'd rather fight a Corrin than a wolf for the 50th time
It’s also a testament to how balanced the game truly is.
@@TikiBadgerSSBUFacts
@@joejoe9787 Completely agree. It helps keep the game fresh and exciting, and I have no doubt that it’ll continue to grow in years to come. I can easily see a future 10 years from now where someone picks a really obscure character that nobody ever thought viable and started taking tournaments with it. Like an Amsa Yoshi situation.
@@TikiBadgerSSBU I'd like to see him do this well with Ridley or Doc tho. It's more balanced for mid/high tiers, but the low-mid/low tiers are still big booty.
MK "moving C-tiers to A-tiers is my hobby" Leo strikes again
Made me laugh but so accurate
S tier comment
everybody laugh until he makes Little Mac seen like an S tier, then everybody gets scared
Corrin was never c-tier
My girlfriend has been beating my ass with Corrin for a while and I’m not surprised…. She was A tier/high tier. She was NOT c tier lol
FYI I play cloud and if she plays any of her other mains… can’t beat me
alternative title "who will people realise is underrated next"
Alternative title to the alternative title "Will people finally realize that any character can be good if you just play them with active braincells?"
@@SlamTheSouji I like that title.
Not as clickbait
@@SlamTheSouji except Gannon and doc
You have to appreciate Leo almost single-handedly keeping the meta fresh at the highest level lol. Not detracting from other content creators, but Leo just seems to decide a character should be good, and then it is.
Then they drop em' the second he does, like joker.
@@EditUnivers75 nah leo was using joker for a good while wasn't he?
@@meraki435 yes, then when he stopped playing him, so did everyone else. That was literally the point of my comment
@@EditUnivers75 ahk, i misunderstood... i will never stop playing Joker tho... he's my favorite character of all time, in saying that, he isn't my first main but thats just cuz I've realized he doesn't fit my play style as well as Min min or Terry
@@meraki435 min min you say? o.o
Sorry, you've probably heard that enough lol
Mk Leo I think is definitely a god of Ultimate. Idk if anyone else deserves that title yet definitely a lot of conversation about that I’m sure haha. You should do another video about that! It’s cool to see you break it down because you know a lot about the age mentality and your overall knowledge on the tournament seen!
Even if another player does deserve that title, Leo is just in another tier. No other player has been this dominant in ultimate for this long
mk leo has won more tournements then anybody, but i dont think esam has lost a set to leo since ultimate began, mind you most tournements with the 2 in place esam doesnt even make it to leo.
@@mikeduff2070 he’s not undefeated, he lost to leo at genesis 7, according to pg stats, but he is 4-1 against him
He’s slowly but surely becoming the zero of smash ultimate.
MKLeo is the way I always wanted to go in competitive. Come in with the randomest underrated character and just wipe out everyone cause they don’t know what to do
Sadly I’m still no where near that skill level to attempt that
Don’t worry, I don’t think anyone is
Leo still picks based on a certain factor.
I would like to send a message to HungryBox.
that I am happy to see that he has finally found a community of his own who loves him and adores him. I've been following you for a while in the darkness of Smash Melee and I'm relieved that people appreciate you for your true worth.
Just Respect.
i keep belive in you ClutchBox !😃
Incineroar just needs one change to make him more impressive. His up-B should require an additional input for the dive bomb part; so up-B once gets the leap and up-B again gets the bomb.
Man, imagine the juggle strings that would make use of UpB1
Imagine if you could convert that into a new command grab as a mix up.
Like pressing side B when he reached top instead of up B for cross chop. When that grab hits he automatically does up throw.
Year 2036: mkleo finaly win a major with every character in the game and the best character is dr Mario .
Hungrybox: Wants SkyJay to win for Mexico while he is facing Sparg0 .... who is also from Mexico.
I know a lot of these characters are high tier, but those guys just hit different.
That Incineroar was sick!😺🔥
Skyjay is fuckin insane
Skyjay is frightening, that man can take leo to game 5
I’m glad Leo won. I remember a few tournaments ago he pulled out a Korrin then instantly won the match.
I hope Sephiroth gets some good representation at some point. Otherwise I'll have to do it.
You know what the saying is:
"Be the change you want to see."
You got this!
"fine I'll do it myself"
If only Nairo could still compete lol
@@AricinGrey this
I heard rumors that tweek was picking him up, no confirmation tho and it also seems like tweek is stepping back from competing as much
Oh my god Corrin content from Hungrybox, Corrin is broken IVE BEEN SAYING THIS
I, actually couldn’t recognize the silhouette.
Same bro, I never fight corrin. Actually, who even does fight corrin often? She's such a rare character to see
wait SHE. THERE’S A FEMALE CORRIN
@@HackX1824 Yes lol
I wanna see MkLeo pick up Little Mac or Ganondorf.
7:45 last surprise playing this in the background makes this all the more better
Corrin!!! Honestly always thought she was underrated especially with how much utility she has. But bro he’s amazing
Finally people see that Corrin is high tier. Been preaching this before Leo even competitively played with Corrin. The character is incredibly versatile and their whole kit works so well.
Let's not get too hasty. Not HIGH tier. But I feel she's extremely underrated.
@@bullseye- Yes high tier IMO. Amazing aerials that all combo (including Dair) which leads to a ton of damage, extremely versatile F-Smash and Side B, good tilts (especially down tilt), a good and versatile Neutral B, and a decent up B that has invincibility in the first few frames along with kill potential. You can say this character is on the slower side but that doesn't mean way too much because of their range and combo game. I don't see how this character is anywhere below low high tier, but I'd like to hear your views.
I would say she's probably high mid tier, not high tier. You already brought up her speed, which is lackluster. Pin is nowhere as good as it was in sm4sh. Honestly kinda below average now. The recovery doesn't go too far and barely ever snaps to ledge. The counter is not that good anymore and kills way later now. The neutral b is okay, but sometimes becomes a liability with like 20 frames of endlag on shield. Overall, I personally feel she has too many drawbacks to be considered high tier, and would personally place her in high mid tier. But idk maybe I'm missing something.
@@bullseye- Thanks for your input! You made good points although I think pin is underrated. It works very well as a tech chase for some reason and it's good for stalling, mix-ups, kills, and recovery. It has a tipper and kick attack that are great for kills. I get it's weaker than the Smash 4 version but that shouldn't mean it's bad. After landing a Fang Shot, you can use F-Smash or side B to heavy punish if your opponent is on the right percent. Side B and F-Smash both 2-frame (side B is more reliable and faster, though) and these kill early.
I get Corrin is slow but so is Pyra, Kazuya, and Byleth and they are considered high tiers so I wouldn't say being slow immediately means mid to low tier. If Corrin was any faster her combos would be broken. You can chain a lot of Fairs, Uairs, and Nairs into each other depending on the stage, leaving Bair or Uair as great combo finishers. All of that while she's slower than usual. She has good out of shield options (Nair, forward tilt, and down tilt). Her recovery is honestly underrated. You can use Bair as a means to get closer to ledge, then use Side B or Neutral B to stall. Side B pins to the side of the stage and Corrin can jump high from it, maker her great on Kalos. Her up special travels a good height and can be aimed but the hitbox ruins her against those with counters. Speaking of, her counter doesn't kill as well but it puts enemies in disadvantage if it doesn't kill and it has a lot of range and I-frames.
That's just my take on it, though. I can see why you think she's high mid tier. She has nothing way too crazy like Joker or Pythra in general.
Completely agreed. I can also see your side of the story now as to why you believe she's high tier. I'm just going to sit back and watch the professionals do their thing for now and then i'll see their take on it. Respect for not being disrespectful about it man.
Byleth Bair is just knee wtf
I can’t be the only one who just got a team Liquid and Honda ad
Imagine how high mac would move up on tier lists
Oh Lord. Between MKLeo and Peanut? Little Mac awareness would skyrocket.
It wouldn't
I'm not convinced that he'd be any better than Peanut. Leo has said himself that he picks characters no one is familiar with. He moves on to a new character when he starts to drop more matches so he can get the edge again on a lack of match familiarity from his opponents. He's not magically making the characters better than they are. Little Mac, Ganon, etc. have all been figured out by very talented players. There's no reason to believe that Leo would bring extra value to them.
@Thomas Lewis Agreed. Leo is very intelligent with his picks. Usually the only reason he switches in the first place is because people learn the mu. Not saying that Leo isn't good, but there's clearly a pattern there.
Besides Pound, this is probably my favorite tournament of the year so far.
Hungrybox, you inspire me to chase my dreams.
“When will the streak end?”
At Pound lol
Wrecking shit with my dragon princess!
its insane how much better spargo and mkleo are than everyone else
didn't gluttony win the most recent big tournament?
I can't help but cheer for MKleo, but seeing people come so close to passing him up is so exciting!
Forget mkleo, there's an incineroar in losers semis, now THAT is fucking hype.
I've always hated fighting against Corrin. This just gives me ptsd 💀
>:)
you know shit's about to go down when hbox screams 0.48923084902384 seconds into the video
Safe to say MK has risen from Dungeon Boss to Final Boss... jeez, he doesn't miss.
Except that one game with Sparg0
@@kannonball5789 fair, but that was Dungeon Boss Leo lol
Corrin players unite
Yes 🌽
MKLEO IS AN FREAKY GOD
Man I miss Leo joker
Same, marss has a joker now but its just not the same.
Yeahhhh, it's like he lays down foundations for the underrated, and once the Olympians of Smash figure one out, he puts it in the hands of everyone else like "You've seen what x can do, now get out there and make your story."
MKLeo has an incredible, though perhaps unintentional at times, habit of taking characters most folks think aren't worth it and building a ladder for them that really makes us go "You know what... 🤔"
It feels nice seeing your main's reputation get built up by the champ 🏆
@@Spyder-Marth Honestly, yes. I can't really stick to one character but I have like 5 I think I coulda gone rogue with given time lol.
yeah just look at everyone thought of Byleth lol
Spargo definitely gave us a show. Legendary run I was hoping he’d take the tourney but impressive nonetheless.
MKLeo changes the tier-list every time he wins a tournament lol
"Spargo's little brother is an old man" 😂
Who's gonna tell Leo that his Corrin is just his Ike except he kills later?
Legit
What do you mean?
@@FluffLBunny it’s the same character in so many ways. Slower than ideal, hits pretty hard, easy combos, and mixups for days with Ike’s grab combos and Corrin’s pin. 2 frames with eruption and pin, etc etc
@@lagspike7763 That's a weird take to me. Between Corrin having a powerful projectile, having average weight, pin-cancel mixups and a recovery that can be angled; and Ike being a Heavy with a perfectly horizontal and perfectly vertical recovery I don't think they are very comparable at all.
@@FluffLBunny Corrin's pin mixups and Ike's grab mixups are visually different and you do different things but you get the same value off of them you get pressure on opponents holding shield on your safe options. The projectile is the big difference maker between them but even then the projectile is mostly used as a combo tool with like fair -> DFS or nair -> DFS which is just a kill confirm, which Ike also has with Nair -> Bair , reverse Nair -> Up air, Nair -> UP B.
I realized Corrine was actually omega broken like late last year before I stopped playing. I'm glad leo brought that into the light. Corrin is so much fun
6:09 What was that grab there xD
1 game lost in a whole stacked tournament, that's craaaaazy
Mkleo playing fire emblem heroes while everyone else trying to play smash
Leo should play a mid tier every tournament and take them to grand finals I think he has the potential to fuck with the meta
HBox you're my favorite commentator, when you pop off, I smile. :)
Corrin has always been a good character (especially after the buffs). Leo has obviously put in the work to optimize the character. It's also obvious that none of the other top players have learned the matchup efficiently yet (since they had no need to previously). I think that Leo's Corrin will get figured out faster than his Byleth.
No man, Corrin was so bad before the buffs. There were so many issues with most of the moves like iffy hitbox (smaller than it looked) for back air, launch angles that make it hard to juggle. The up b also had issues. Corrin used to be mid-tier at best below Byleth who also used to be mid tier.
I think a lot of characters have the tools to win the Corrin matchup but some don't, which is why Corrin is good as a secondary.
Leo is absurd.
Corrin being low tier has never made sense to me. Ik Leo’s insane but she was one of my first mains and honestly has always felt like a good match against anyone (casuals with the homies everyone complains she’s broken)
Fucking absolutely love skyjay he's a player I just found out about but he's so fucking hype and the comebacks he does with incen is just amazing
Leo Sparg0 and Glutto are like the top tier trifecta
Leo is best in the world for a reason. Even if he lose, people still say he is the best.
There should a sound warning in the thumbnail. You think I'd have learned by now
1:40 the timing
"there it is" lmao
How is corrin leo's new character ? He already won with corrin 🤔
I cant believe spargo was on team ZeRo back in the day
Cloud vs Corin GF Smash 4 comes full circle
I'm gonna be honest: ever since Smash 4, i've always believed that Corrin was a counter pick for Cloud.
me too i always felt that way
Trust me, he is (or she is, but I prefer playing the dude).
I am glad you were honest.
@4nt Oh ? How does Corrin beat Cloud ?
@@georgesbouchet7430 If Cloud tries to juggle Corrin, Corrin can escape with a well-timed Dair (which can deal a lot of damage to Cloud if he gets hit). Corrin has more range than Cloud on most moves and has many ways to gimp Cloud's recovery (Corrin's Side B and F-Smash can ruin Cloud). Corrin also has amazing vertical juggling tools that Cloud has trouble facing. Cloud can still beat Corrin of course, but it's more difficult
Now just imagine Leo and Spargo in a duos tourney together... Actually nevermind I think it's so powerful the world would explode LOL
Why do they keep using those old pictures of Leo for thumbnails lol
WHAT CORIN
Incineroar the ultimate underrated character
I love watching Leo 😁
My boy skyjay making my baby look high tier ❤️
12:15 yeah, that’s definitely fair
Once you win a major with Corin it's a wrap.
Leo's main is Fire Emblem.
Jesus this like a month ago
Smash community is legendary besides the cringy weird kids
Wasn't this tournament a month ago, kinda old news buy okay I guess
grand finals is just ReVeluv vs Once lmao
You just now noticing?
Spargo = Simple and clean
Oh I see. You’re taking an old video to commentate. Content creators 👌🏼
How long until he MKLeo wins Evo with Ganon or little Mac...I wouldn't be surprised but it would be a hell of a run
MKLeo picked up Byleth because they were underrated and no one knew the matchup. Everyone figured out Byleth, so he switched to someone else underrated and where no one knows the matchup. This isn't the case for Ganon it Little Mac. He's not going to seriously use either of those characters.
You missed the joke there bud
I thought Corrin was low tier wth....
HECK NO lol. High tier at least! The potential with this character is insane, especially with platforms.
Im happy that Leo is using the caracther that i main. But at the same time i hate it, EVERYBODY is going to play corrin just because Leo is playing her a
What's so bad about there being more corrin players?
HE IS MEXICAN
Sat spargo down lol
NO SHIT WAY!!!!!
I just said that because THE LEGEND OF MKLEO HAS RETURNED ONCE AGAIN!!!! 😮
Damn
I’m really curious as to what would happen if Leo really invested in his Joker again
Man, Byleth's recovery is so blatantly overpowered lmao
What? No it isn’t
These other comments are lame. Yes Byleth's recovery is OP. Compared to the rest of the cast it excels in offense (kill potential is crazy high as an edge guard and it's a good OoS, as well as anti air), it excels defensively since it has such a long range to tether. You can also mix your timing up for the tether as well so you have several options. But from a utility standpoint, because it doesn't send you into freefall and you can use it multiple times, the other fine aspects of it are even better!
I know Esam rated it as a Top 5 up-b in the game behind Bowser, Pika, and G&W. I Only agree with G&W as I think it is technically just as good as pikachu's depending on the situation (pikachu's is better defensively, but it also takes more skill to use and doesn't have AS high offensive utility. Granted it is still very good). Bowser's is too exploitable off-stage for me to say that it's better than Byleth's.
Then again, I will say he was evaluating the moves in a vacuum, and Byleth's kit does make it pretty high reward, but I think any character with decently strong aerials could make that shit hurt.
But yeah. Even if you don't think it's a top 5 up-b, it's at least top 10. Saying it's not OP is actually the contrarian stance considering that generally recovery moves in this game are weak. Like you don't often want to have to use them because of freefall or limited utility.
Verdict? Busted.
@@romeospells2487 It really amazes me how this community has such a knee-jerk reaction of "NUH UH" whenever you call out something as being busted. Thanks for being a voice of reason, my dude.
@Maddux Nagel Props to you for reevaluating your stance. Always happy to spread what information I have!
@@malefic5254 I definitely am not a fan of dismissive "git gud" (il)logic. Primarily because this game and the experience of it varies heavily just based on who you play.
As a falcon main, my experience is WILDLY different from when I played Dedede. Practically night and day. One character hates getting comboed and frame data'd, and the other despises projectiles and edgeguards. Different characters become busted for entirely different reasons.
It'd be nice if we approached things more modularly to start with.
But yeah! It was nice chatting :)
slightly late to this one lol
MKLeo is honestly one giant shitpost who's punchline knocks back against the other man. Not to mention how we bare witnessed the true rise of Corrin that was prophesied in Smash 4.
Why does T1 have the really good players?
I'm gonna be honest. I don't really like watching Sparg0. Let me clarify, his Cloud is nasty and that's cool. I mean Sparg0 as a person is not a very fun person to watch. He wins, he loses, he doesn't seem to show much emotion or anything. I don't think I've ever heard him talk or seen him smile. I want to see a pop-off, I want to see him excited, I want to see anything besides straight-face blank stare Sparg0.
I didn’t know people watched smash just for who’s more emotive. I guess I shouldn’t be surpised since this is on a hungrybox video lol
@@sweatybabypowderhands843 That's not what I said lol
@@malcolmfletcher2659 How about clarifying what you did say. You said he doesn't show much emotion and you want to see him pop-off. That's why you don't like watching him.
I'm not sure where the misunderstanding was.
@@romeospells2487 I don't "just watch smash for who's more emotive". I said Sparg0's Cloud was cool. I said I want to see some emotion out of the kid, I didn't say that pop-offs are the only reason I watch Smash, or that I only watch people who are more emotional. What I said and what this guy interpreted that as are a little different. Relax my dude.
@@malcolmfletcher2659 Why is being emotive an importance to you? It’s like the last thing I look for when I’m looking for good smash. I would slso disagree with Sparg0 not being emotive. He is, he’s just so good and composed that very few people rattle him.
Hellloooooo
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I love the emotion HBox but sometimes you lay it on too thick to where it's clearly forced. Just be natural my guy.
Gotta chime in here. Being on camera is not natural. Not every moment is going to feel natural. Sometimes expressing natural emotions in a monitored environment can cause a little bit of exaggeration or awkwardness.
I think this comment is ignorant for the most part because "natural" changes with the environment. He's hanging out with people. Of course he's going to play up his excitement or expression. That's literally how human beings work. I'm just curious what the issue is. If you weren't as excited as he was, that's fine. Doesn't necessarily mean he's being unnatural for toning it up a bit.
Speaking from my own experience streaming. Feel free to fill me in if you have any clarificationa.
@@romeospells2487 thanks for your subjective input but I really don't care. I was just sharing my subjective opinion. If you stream for a living and have for a few years, you cannot claim that it's still "not natural".
@@BlackWat3rGTR BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
You ABSOLUTELY can claim it's not natural. Like I assume you've been commenting on the internet for years, and I assume that you're not naturally a dismissive whiny and petulant, but when confronted with a given situation sometimes our responses aren't as crisp as they could be.
The moment is something to be seized, not something guaranteed.
Also, your subjective opinion just sucks. Like saying "you've had enough practice HBOX, chill out, be natural" is almost inherently shitty, considering that he's always been like this. HBox is dramatic and has been for a while. Maybe not the entire time, but his pop-offs and reactions have been overblown for years. So like, what I'm saying is that his energy levels and how he's able to express them may not always line up in the best way. But that happens. That's fine. Sometimes you just aren't as fluid of a personality or it doesn't land with some people because they aren't as hype as you.
But yeah, I think we're past the "just my opinion stage." I also think we're old enough that "I don't care," no longer has any weight. At least it doesn't to me. You can continue "Not caring" while I say my piece on how you haven't said very much at all.
I would say good day, but you don't care either way ^_^
Fuck off?
Live well and prosper?
Eh, nothing feels natural :/
Fourth
2nd*
First 🥳
everyone:yay mkleo. spargo gluttony
me:yay skyjay !