The New illymation Drama - Short version
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Her video wasn't even promoting obesity, she just thinks that people dont need to go too hard on themselves and it's ok to be a little overweight as long as you're eating healthy and going on walks, and you don't need to be on a very strict diet to be healthy
" and it's ok to be a little overweight "
ah yes, not promoting obesity
i hope you know that overweight today, is what used to be considered obese a couple decades back. this is literal evidence that people have grown comfortable with obesity.
"...as you're eating healthy"
.. will not result in overweight. your statement itself is contradiction. if what you eat is healthy for you, you wont become overweight.
@RenderingUser "overweight used to be considered obese" ok and? What's your point? The only thing this proves is that beauty standards are way too strict, it's not the end of the world if someone isn't skin and bones.
"Eating healthy wont make you overweight"
Do you really think everyone has the same metabolism? Are you not aware that some people have diseases that make them gain weight without eating? Even without diseases and slow metabolism you can get a little fat while still being healthy you don't have to eat one leaf a day to be healthy, it's not the end of the world if someone is a little fat, but I guess you're butthurt that women aren't starving themselves just to please you
@@purpleflowers8723 it's not beauty standards my guy. It's about having a health body.
"do you think everyone has the same matabolism"
No. This is why different foods are healthy for different people. That said, the variation of that is very little. It's definitely the end of the world if people start to no longer take care of themselves. It's only a downhill trend from there.
@RenderingUser you can still be healthy even if you're overweight, people eating food does not equate to them not taking care of themselves, you can eat a piece of chocolate and still be healthy and take care of yourself (crazy i know) the only reason y'all are mad is because you want women who are skin and bones, stop telling me it's about health because it absolutely isn't
@@purpleflowers8723 you cannot be healthy if you're overweight. Overweight is by definition unhealthy. That said, it is true for some people that are overweight to be more healthy than some people that are normal weight. But only because the normal weight people in question don't take care of themselves in other ways.
Also what's with the random strawmen at the end there?
It's absolutely about health. And all skin and bones isn't healthy either. That's most likely underweight. Stop trying so hard to put words in my mouth just cause you can't find a valid argument lmao
You kinda left out the part where he s
Cut important parts of her video, taking it out of context and inflaming all his opinions to make her look like a horrible person
exactly! she was promoting body neutrality, not toxic body positivity
@@cannedcheesecake yeah it really annoys me how everyone is making it look like she was telling people to get fat, she just said it's ok to be overweight you dont have to be a skeleton to be healthy you can be healthy with a little fat but people can't handle that fact and want women to fit with their very strict beauty standards
people keep saying she's promoting bad eating habits and some other shit and you need to watch his video, you have to see the video by yourself then you criticize it yourself because if you have to listen to someone else criticize it it's their criticizm not yours watch the original video the whole way through because if you can sit through 36 minutes, 16 minutes isn't that hard
@@purpleflowers8723 true its not like every fat body positivity exclude men and majority of women even fat one want men with abs height and money truly positive
the cut out line has absolutely no impact on the main point. it was fully irrelavent.
Note that TBYS's main concern was being "deplatformed" and no longer receiving youtube funds which does not happen unless you've violated the guidelines 3 times and have gotten 3 strikes, implying that he has already done stuff like this before and has already gotten warned 2 other times by youtube.
He was just lying to get his fans to attack her again
""deplatformed" and no longer receiving youtube funds which does not happen unless you've violated the guidelines 3 times"
ah yes, why complain about one gunshot cause it takes 3 to kill you?
smh
its a violation to falsely give even one strike. and doing so will lead him to get more strikes
"implying that he has already done stuff like this before and has already gotten warned 2 other times by youtube."
wild assumption there. no, he only had one strike from that vid (now strike removed). youd know if you actually followed his content
@@RenderingUser One video is not going to "lead him to get more strikes" unless he is violating the rules. And if he is violating the rules, that's on him. Also I'm not making an assumption, that's why i said it IMPLIES he's had other strikes rather than saying it upfront. He could have had other strikes or not, but either way he's not going to lose his whole platform from a singular video unless that was the case. I was saying that there wasn't a reason for him to be that concerned about losing income unless he has already been striked or expects to get more.
@@elleimo "unless he is violating the rules."
he got a strike even tho he never violated the rules. that says enough about that situation
"Also I'm not making an assumption, that's why i said it IMPLIES he's had other strikes rather than saying it upfron"
my guy. i know its an assumption. because WE KNOW he has just one strike. he said so. he showed the strike
"he's not going to lose his whole platform from a singular video unless that was the case"
hes going to have a higher likelyhood of getting more false strikes down the line if you try to justify this false strike
"I was saying that there wasn't a reason for him to be that concerned about losing income"
you know that the yt algorithm can and will abandon you based on stuff like this?
what is it if not effecting his income?
@@RenderingUser
Idk why you put every single thing in quotes but hey, if that's your style i can do that too.
"he got a strike even though he never violated the rules" that wouldn't have happened if he didn't constantly make videos sparking internet feuds with people. Regardless of whether he violated the rules, this kind of content will put him at a risk of situations like this happening.
"i know it's an assumption because WE KNOW he has just one strike" my guy. I already clarified why it's not an assumption or an accusation because i was not saying that he has 100% certainly received other strikes, but instead that that it can be implied by his claims, making it a possibility that he could've had other strikes or even expected to receive more strikes. It's seems like you're having a bit of trouble understanding the definition of the word "imply." For your own benefit, here is the oxford definition of the word "imply";
"to suggest that something is true or that you feel or think something, without saying it directly"
If TBYS was IMPLYING that he has or will face other strikes, then he is not saying it himself. His extreme concern about being deplatformed (in his words) can be read with these implications, however, as i specifically used the word IMPLYING in my original comment, that is intended to be taken with a grain of salt and not as complete fact as i was only stating an observation.
"hes going to have a higher likelyhood of getting more false strikes down the line if you try to justify this false strike" simply making an observation and stating the facts about youtube's rules in regards to videos being striked is not the same as trying to justify the strike.
"you know that the yt algorithm can and will abandon you based on stuff like this? what is it if not affecting* his income?" If his income relies on UA-cam funds, then he should know to be more careful about the content he posts. I'm not saying that it's completely his fault for getting striked, but considering he is most likely an adult, he probably has a real life job other than youtube. However, if that's not the case, he shouldn't be so careless as to getting involved in internet drama if that is his only form of income, especially considering how heated people get in online debates.
You didn't mention how he spliced her video to make her look bad and how he is currently raging on Twitter because UA-cam gave him a strike on his channel and took his video down for bullying and harassment
yeah lol, definitely one of those "lying by ommision" type things, guy was just looking for drama and manufactured some, but he will be fine lmao, he will just blame "wokeness" or something and sell some garbage, at least a lot of people know now he is full of it
Dillion is that you?
@@tdotitan8855 here's the thing that people need to learn, you shouldn't make drama because that'll get you only so far untill someone decides to fight back because they think this is just fucked up making others look like some evil villan who's saying shit that makes sense and then just twisting their words to mean something else like when someone make a speech on how they'll make some place better and someone interupts and twists their good words into something completely different
@@Thunder12o994 yeah if he had a normal job then yes, however if he still has an audience and still has a platform he will be fine. even if he is deplatformed he will get some people to follow him lol. like a pig in mud if you wrestle you will both get dirty but he will love it. Got to call it out but also not give him more views so its a catch 22
Some people just want to make world worse for personal gain, its important to realize that at the end of the day it is your choices that make you who you are.
the cut out line has absolutely no impact on the main point. it was fully irrelavent.
I didn’t watch TBYS’s video, I only skipped to the portion that started the escapade. He did cut out a large clip of the video, making Illy look like the bad guy while also trying to look like “The informed lad that has philosophical take on the subject at hand.” Which is not true. You can be ‘overweight’ for your age category/height and still be healthy. SZA is obese and she’s eating vegan hotdogs. So I don’t see the problem with Illy. AM I SAYING THAT SHES JUSTIFIED? Hell no. But not taking any pro-caution on your viewers when it is your responsibility for your viewers since you technically built your empire with said viewers. Illy less of a nuance than TBYS. End of story.
Eating vegan doesn't magically make you healthy. Oreos are vegan. If you overeat on a vegan diet, you will still get the same metabolic disease the Standard American Diet creates. Someone who calorie restricts on the Standard American Diet will be healthier than someone who over eats on a vegan diet. I wouldn't recommend that though, because calorie restriction on a junk food diet is so much harder than calorie restriction with meat and vegetables, as meat signals to your body that you're getting enough protein and fills you up and vegetables fill you up physically and all of that slow digesting fiber keeps you full.
@@TheSpecialJ11 ok? I didn’t need that information on your end, but alright.
@@TheSpecialJ11 oh yeah, and I didn’t state that SZA was healthy, but I stated that she was eating vegan while being obese. I don’t know where the hell you got that from.
I didnt see the thing about the flagging but Im pretty sure it's just that I dont have twitter
she posted about flagging the video on her tumblr which had 2.4k followers at the time on Tumblr of posting it
@@Thunder12o994 the post had less than 100 notes.
@@marisstaff7019 I know but I'm pretty sure she had like around 2k followers at the time
Maybe you should watch the video "Think Before You Dox" by Noah Samsen
Recommending a confirmed lier to someone is a choice.
@@matmil5 what?
Maybe I should look for someone else. since tbys and Noah are going to exaggerate some things about each other
You, my friend, are a godsend. Subscribed.
thank you brother, i really appreciate that :)
based so much time saved
Just so no other harm is done. For Illymations safety and also so TBYS doesn't get any more funding that he doesn't need nor deserve. Please do not interact with his social media and please do not send hate to Illymations. She is currently facing financial and most likely mental crises due to the situation that she does not deserve and TBYS is completely in the wrong.
I am not the best at talking about controversial topics but I know that adding fuel to the fire won't help.
If you want any more info on the situation read the other comments and watch Noah Samsen’s Video “Think Before You Dox”. You do not have to side with anyone but I do encourage you to at the very least leave the situation alone.
*once again please do not send any more hate to illymations or interact with TBYS social media*
Much Luv. Have a blessed day🥸💕✨
Edit: I would also like to bring to light that TBYS has a history of spreading biased “Anti-Wokeness” propaganda and attacking other UA-camrs for following “The Woke Movement”
This shouldn't be said, but TBYS has no control over this, Illy got doxxed because some psychotic mf thought it was a good idea to do so, simply saying "Don't go harass this person" will not change their mindset. It would only be a problem if he actively promotes this kind of behavior, which he isn't, and I watched all 3 videos of his on this drama.
I personally believe TBYS is innocent here, he did not attack Illy, all he did was simply defend himself, and whatever his fans decided to do is out of his control. The first video was made to address some misinformation spread in Illy's video, and not to attack her (he might have cut the clips out of context like some other people here have said, but that still doesn't change the fact that the original video is wrong, there are simply no benefits to being the fat kid).
Like TBYS said (it really sounds like I'm meatriding him huh?): If Illy just watch the video, and respond to it logically, or just ignore it as a whole and let the whole thing die down instead of being an actual baby, this might never have happened
I don't want to stir this pot more times than it has already been, but I just thought you might want to know
@@TFL_Official_YT I understand where you are coming from, but I personally think that at least trying to bring awareness would help. The reason why I put it under this video specifically is because not enough context was added so people may or may not blindly side with TBYS and start sending hate and/or spreading more allegations. I’m not really trying to change mindset as much as I am trying to prevent people who just find out about this from the video stirring up an even worse situation.
Once again, I understand your point of view but I personally don’t agree. And TBYS wasn’t defending himself in his video he directly misinformed his audience and painted her views in a negative light and even body shamed and insulted her looks during it. I do understand the video is down so you probably didn't see that but it is covered in Noah Samsen’s video so I recommend you go watch it.
And lastly, if you watch Illy’s video (which most didn't they immediately went under it and started hating) everything she says in the video has nothing to do with what TBYS “exposed” her for. Illy knows she doesn't always know what she’s talking about but even then she doesn't bring up anything in the video that could harm children.
I do really recommend you go watch Noah Samsen’s video and illymations video because I’m not the best at displaying good evidence and opinion, I’m just the messenger but I can see where you went wrong. I thought the same before I decided to actually do my research.
Edit: also ik Noah Samsen’s video is a whole hour long and some people don’t really like watching long videos like that so if you do end up watching it watch at least the first 10 - 20 minutes before clicking off.
anyways...subbing to TBYS. illy is the one who put out the video that tbh created all of this drama. her video has a lot of dislikes rightfully so because people can simply watch her video and form their own opinion without TBYS's input. which is my case, I didn't agree with her video before even watching or finding TBYS
Isn't Noah usually the rival of TBYS? I've seen videos of TBYS doing thorough research on what Noah failed to do in one of his videos
To be fair illy, should've never false flag TBYS. However, he SHOULD NEVER MADE A FOLLOW-UP VIDEO. MAYBE HE SHOULD'VE TRIED TO ALEAST MADE PEACE. Illy should take legal action because he fuel the drama and made it worse
This is not true, both are wrong. And the think before u sleep was basically insulting how she looks while saying how people can "look better"
she was saying how she doesnt look good
and tbys was telling everyone how even those looks can be redeemed.
what is that, if not advice?
he even went out of his way to apologize for the harsh wording used in that section. tbys has a history of being very blunt with his takes.who knew someone would come that would take personal offence to a video they didnt watch
@@CLOWTISMS not unwanted advice. It's criticism for the video. Illy mentioned about her appearance and that she considered it bad. Tbys explained why, and how to improve that. It's a legitimate point. You have no idea how much better someone can look with a better outfit and style. Even if you are a bit over weight.
Secondly, what tf did he say to get her doxxed? He has no responsibly for that. If anything, it's illy's fault for making people angry at her by trying to wrongfully deplatform someone
@@CLOWTISMS no he fukin didn't. Nobody in his fanbase is happy with the doxxer. And secondly, he had every right to make the videos as both are about people either attacking him, or slandering him.
It's illy's fault if anything. For making people angry by going after another content creator in the most dumb way possible
@@RenderingUser A lot of things, apparently. And yes it is his responsibility to outwardly state that he meant no ill will to Illy, and simply tell his fans to mind their fucking business. Shits not hard, just say it.
@@RenderingUser You can’t even blame Illy for much. TBYS decided to yap and she took offense, it was very much not needed, but she didn’t do anything wrong. TBYS continued to drag on the subject like an immature toddler.