LIVING WITH A BMW M140I // SERIES 1 EPISODE 1
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This is the second great review I've seen from you, which made my mind up between a M140 or a M240, I am now a proud owner of a 2019 M140i, thank you.
Broowww so happy for you I m looking also for one for the last couple of months hope to get one
Enjoy your car bro
@@daking8047I bought a M135i F21 facelift model from 2016, 2 months ago. Best car I've ever owned. They're so much fun to drive!
@@AnfecsIan browwwwwwwwwwww I bought an bmw m140i rwd on 13 february 70k km it s Amazingggg next car m3 o m4 g80 g82 or maybe audi r8 2016 at least
I HOPE SO
How are you getting on with the 2019 M140i ?
Agree with pretty much everything you said, I think I commented a few months back on your other vid or maybe someone else's saying as soon as I got my 140 it was like a dickhead magnet for everyone trying to race you, pulled away from quite a few cars worth twice the m140s value can only imagine how they felt after getting done by a one series hehe
Owned mine for over 4 years now.
The ZF 8 speed HP50 is brilliant but not perfect as standard, and I used to experience what you described on rare moments .I did have the gearbox software flashed with xHP3 about 3 years ago and it is a big improvement in every way.
In comfort mode it is still as smooth as ever but doesn't seem to get caught between decisions like you described. In sport mode it is a different beast, and changes as fast as any DCT I have experienced. The hydraulic pressure is maxed so the gear box can handle any extra power from engine tuning too.
My MPG varies from a best of 42.5 on a 60 mile trip last year, down to 5 when I press the go pedal all the way down 🙂 455bhp/634nm might have something to do with that figure.
Issues I had have been hardly any. The exhaust vale clip broke, a common issue. I bought another but before it arrived I put some fence wire around the exhaust and the groove the clip sits, so the exhaust valve is now wired open all the time, and I like the sound so it's staying like that.
I have serviced it every 6-7k miles as the 18k service interval is way too long.
I had the gearbox oil changed a few months ago, as the car is on 42k, and the diff oil changed.
It does go through tyres, I just put a full set of pilot supersports on but hey, I expected that. I think I'm due new discs and pads all round but not bad at all coming up to 43k.
It's the perfect car for a daily driver.
I don't like sports+ because of the throttle map, it's like an on/off switch. I drive in comfort with the wife in the car, and traction off mode all the time if I'm on my own. Traction off mode has comfort throttle map so uses the full length of movement of the throttle and is much more controllable.
As you say, you can transform an M140i with suspension, diff, polybushes, etc but when you can spent all that money you are approaching OG M2 money, so why would you ?
To answer the last bit, because car enthusiasts would end up upgrading the M2 as well so it’s a never ending game 😅
just wanted to say love all your videos and reviews
Subbed ! Looking forward to seeing more of this beauty in your videos while I'm still dreaming of getting one in the somewhat very near future as an upgrade from my '04 116i.
Great video. Did not know about the 3rd USB plug! That's brilliant, thanks! Totally agree about all your comments, especially Birds suspension upgrade. I live in Normandy and brought them y M140i for a full upgrade kit. Best decision ever. The car is much more competent and composed
Great review,, thanks for posting..
I always get excited whenever I see a new video uploaded 🎉
Loved your review man 💪🏼💪🏼
Can't speak for the m140i, but I've had my f20 m135i for 4 years now and can honestly say it's the best car I've owned. Done res delete, and it sits on vogtland 20mm springs, which for me is perfect. Everytime I consider getting something newer or different the feeling soon vanishes when I sit in the drivers seat and go for a little drive to nowhere!
As always a great video to watch 👍
B58 is very different to n55
Love the videos keep them up👍
Excellent review 👍 Love mine. Can't fault it. Great value for money.
Brilliant car's. Can't see me changing it for anything else, it's just such a great all rounder.
Had mine 6 mths. Long term avge 36 mpg. Longer motorway 40 plus pretty easily. Eco and comfort, sport just for overtakes or want to listen to the remus non res i have which is stunning. Im mid 50s and i feel suspension is a good compromise, ive got no qualms with the handling, maybe at speeds that you probably shouldn't be doing it might be a little off, but i find it balances on throttle and steering input quite well. The engine is stunning. Running ps5 on the rears, pilot super sports at front till worn out then 5s on the front. Grip has been fine wet or dry. Dont think there's anything i dont like on it. Yes you get the odd bit with idiots wanting to race, but i let them go, cars got nothing to prove, they know its quick if i chose to go. I wont change suspension, i dont push hard enough to justify the expense, 20 or so yrs ago i might have, last car was focus st3 estate on h&r springs, but didn't like the fidgety chassis movement that come with it. Going forward possibly a power hike, just because its so easy to do, and engine not stressed, and cant see any likelihood of changing it for anything else, just a good all round package all round. Good video, enjoyed.
Reviews are on point! great content
Glad you like them!
happy for you man, great car
I bought my 140 new 5 years ago. I agree with everything you said. Have considered p/x it for a similar aged M3 competition but I will have to throw in another £20k and I can't justify that.
Lovely car best of luck with it.
I e owned one of these for 3 years , I love it !
All this stuff about the suspension being total crap is well , how can I put it , total crap .
Feels absolutely fine to me , engine and gearbox are magnificent 👍🏻
Good review !
you can buy OEM or aftermarket 1:1 oem-like dash cam so you don't need to worry about cables. Maybe for future replacement that is a good upgrade
it's ShrEWsbury! Love the vids
Great, I miss my BMW 140i so much, it was a bit wobbly but that sound I miss it so much.
why did you sell it?
I definitely don’t have the same rapid warm up you have. In winter takes a good 10 minutes to ready the 70 degree marker then another 5 mins to reach 100 degrees
My gearbox is spot on and never holds the gears long unless I’m in sport or sports plus
Apparently the B58 engine retains heat for up to 3 days after use, especially in hot weather.
If you used the car a day before filming then this may be the reason for temperature rising within one mile.
I still own one from new 4 years now, amazing engine.
I never notice that on mine tbh. I have an aftermarket cluster with coolant and oil temps. After +12h it's mostly completely cooled down.
Regarding the excessive wear of the rear tyres, if they are wearing evenly but wearing out quickly, and you're not running super soft rubber or semislicks, then it's just likely to be the lack of a wider footprint, wider wheels and rear tyres are the only way to improve this. Most of the other BMWs that have this engine have wider rear tyres, the 140i only has 245 wide rears if I am not mistaken? Not enough rubber if you ask me.
I've got a manual M240i which I love, had full Bilstein B14s, stage 2 sports cat, intake and with some good rubber its seriously fast, now it no longer looks or sounds stock nobody tries to race me anymore 👀😂
Awesome car, can see why you love it! How many miles did it have when you had those problems? did not expect that. And why was the speedo blured at roughly 12 mins in?
140i manual gearbox f21 is the most radical one series!
Love the video mate. I pick mine up tomorrow 3.5 hours away and I can’t wait for the drive home!
congrats, enjoy the dive home, you'll love it!
@@ParagonCarsLondon thank you mate! what are your thoughts on adaptive suspension?
@@dew8s It's good but i think the aftermarket bilstein stuff is still a game change for these.
@@ParagonCarsLondonpro nav was my only priority but mine has the adaptive suspension so I guess it’s better than not having it
nice vid bro
Gearbox Is True! XHP STAGE 3 Is A MUST!! IT ELIMINATES this issue what you said
Yep, had mine done 3 years ago and it just makes a good gearbox GREAT.
My work commute is 20 mile or 40 mile round trip. I have an E91 330D N57 and average 43-44 mpg. That’s on 98% duel carriageway. It sounds like the B58 is almost as good and I’d lose very little on economy.
Good review. I like my m140i, but they could have made it so much better out of the box. The engine is fantastic but the standard handling and ride leaves lots to be desired (my other car a 2017 golf GTI performance would leave it for dead on a twisty road). I know it can be improved by modding but it would have been easy for them to fit better dampers as standard, even if it raised the price a bit so it is a bit of a shame. I also have a love hate relationship with the auto box. it's great for cruising around and in traffic but poressing on I find it lacks involvement compared to a good manual. Reliability wise mines been perfect, although it does need the occasional coolant top-up.
Was deciding between a used m140 or a new sq2 or troc r.. going for the m140. Thanks for your review
Hi! I picked up a 2019 M140i at the weekend - absolutely loving it, however the garage I bought it from didn't really do a proper handover so I was wondering if you can answer a question I have about the car. I noticed you said yours has Apple Carplay around 10:44 - I have the "Pro Media" pack in my car which "looks" the same as yours, but how do I get the Apple Carplay setup? Note, I haven't connected my phone with a cable yet so that may be why it's not appeared. Hopefully not a stupid question but it's my first BMW car so it's all very new to me. Great video! Cheers
just bought a M140I on a 19 plate, had it 3 weeks and love it but after driving a porsche boxster for the last 10yrs the steering and suspension are taking a bit of getting use to.
The power this thing has as a stock car is unbelievable, just great when overtaking. why didn't i get one sooner ?
Brilliant review - cheers for providing! Did your CarPlay come as a factory extra or did you get it coded in?
i had to get it coded in, was only £150 but works perfectly.
Great video! I’ve got a double res delete and VRSF sports cat on my 240i, and thankfully still no drone on the motorway!(unless you put it in sport mode)
What sort of mpg does that get on the motorway
@@marcushumphrey3010 did a trip from birmingham to Cornwall the other month and got 44mpg cruising at 70, with the occasional burst of speed for a bit of fun.
Overall avg MPG for the last 5k miles is 25 though, because spirited drives on private roads of course.
@@nowiplay2 thank you that’s good for the 3 litre engine
I drove mine back from Essex and got 50mpg by sitting around 60-65.
I get about 21-26 MPG driving on the main road from Sheffield to Barnsley. I’d say this is due to us having hills. On flat that would be more impressive.
The car feels solid, powerful (sometimes too Powerful) the car makes you feel like you are in a brand new high end car.
The insurance this year is £1200 and the tax is high. The fuel isn’t an issue unless you drive like the stole something.
You stole*
Did any other M140i owner’s eyes open wider when Tom selected the oil temperature readout from the menu? Mine does not have this!! I have to access a pain-in-the-a*** hidden service menu for this! 😅 Great video by the way Tom! I like your more grown up approach compared to some other channels and a nice balanced review 😊
Great vid but the camera was a bit blurry sometimes 😂👍
You gonna drive your M140 in the coming winter? Can't wait for the videos of that, especially if you keep the open diff, will be very interesting and fun to see.
Yeah, it just becomes more fun, as long as you have the right tyres haha.
Had mine 6 years from new. Winter tyres every year. Makes a hell of a difference 😊
Good video. I'm in between this and Golf R around £20k mark both. Just really like the BMW, but not sure about fuel consumption.
i’d go for one of these. They do cost a bit more to run but absolutely worth it.
ive had both, mpg is pretty much the same. preferred the 140
had a golf r mk7 and 7.5 and currently got 140. i'd say go for the 140, it's more fun and faster.
I'm might be wrong but I thought BMW would change exhaust back box to a m performance one as the standard one is well-known for valve rattle not sure if it's just under warranty
They'd only have done that under warranty i think.
Great video mate, thinking of going for 140i myself. Couple of questions:
- I assume you bought an extended warranty from BMW? If so, what was the cost?
- Did your double res delete affect the warranty? I would have thought it would have voided it but happy days if not!
Extended warranty is £485 for the year on these. Exhausts aren’t covered under manufacturer warranty so you can do anything apart from mess with the catalytic converter.
@@ParagonCarsLondon ah nice one, good to know, cheers!
hey, great review, has your car got the adaptive suspension?
Just passive dampers on mine, which is why i plan on changing them.
Hi please can you do a fuel economy video, I’m tempted to buy an m140I for daily commuting
motorway you'll do 40-45mpg and you can get 26-34mpg round town. If you floor it all the time you'll get 18-22mpg, just depends how you drive it.
What is your recommendation on the Michelin PS5? I have SuperSports allround. I need to replace the rears in thinking to put PS5 but is see soo much mixed reviews. Im from the Netherlands so same UK weather( roads are better). SuperSports are and old tyre introduced in 2010 so 2005 technology..
PS5’s are very good imo. Very predictable and plenty of grip for an everyday tyre.
I bought an audi s3 from one of your reviews. You hit the nail on the head with your opinions/views. Im looking at getting one of these as a second car to modify tastefully as its a better engine than the 2.0l in the audi. Looking forward to this series.
What sort of mpg do you get on the motorway from the s3
@@marcushumphrey3010 haven't used it on the motorway yet. Ive got it revo mapped and do short distances up a big hill to work so only averaging 26-27mpg
@@marcushumphrey3010 driving at 70, I get 37mpg.
15:20 did this feel twitchy or nervy at all with the stock diff? I've always thought any type of slide is best avoided unless you fit an LSD. Not planning on drifting like just wanted to know
Nah not at all, it's only at very high speeds (e.g. on track) the m140i can be a bit unpredictable. Like with any RWD car though, you need to know what you're doing and treat the car with respect.
What you choose between a 140i or a 440i, because I’m choosing between them. The 140 is faster and lighter but the 440i has got the better quality of life option such as reversing camera, lane assists, sunroof, and self boot close etc.
you can get all those options in the 140i too. One thing i will say though is that the 440i has a better ride quality as standard.
@@ParagonCarsLondonm140i anyday for me tbf
What year is your car for double res delete? trying to work out if i can do a double res delete on a 68 reg without removing the gpf.
mines an 18 plate. Some 68 plate cars had the gpf but not all of them. There’s a BMW VIN decoder that you can use to figure out whether your car was fitted with it or not. Here’s a link www.mdecoder.com
@@ParagonCarsLondonthanks mate
@@ParagonCarsLondonmight sound stupid, I’ve entered the VIN, what section would it show and what would it say in particular? I can’t see anything about GPF yet
@@Brandonio i Can’t remember exactly but it was something in the exhaust or engine section that said ppf equipped or something similar. If you can’t find anything filter related my bet is that you don’t have it. If you give a garage your vin they should be able to tell you.
The easiest check is to look at the front bumper. Non GPF models have a blocked vent on the passenger side. GPF models are open on both sides. I have a 68 plate and it’s pre GPF
i heard the m240i is a bit more stable, is this true? nice vid! subbed!
Yes the 240i has under brace and it being a coupe does drive better
in stock form yes it is.
Its a prospect car, its part of the m club ,but its not a fully fledged member and has flaws.
I've noticed that the light on the infotainment system switches to orange at night and white during the day. Can you set it to white light the whole time?
It’s something that needs coding i think. It’s something i’m thinking of doing as the orange lighting looks a bit cheap imo.
@@ParagonCarsLondonAfter a bit of research, I found out you can switch between night and daytime mode. So if you want to keep it in daytime mode at night, you can simply change it in the settings.
Hi, where did you buy the sticky felt from for the boot rattle? Mine has the same problem.. thanks
Was just off of amazon. Fantastic for lining door cards as well
For anyone with an F21 1 series and a rattle from the boot in cold weather - after trying lots of things it turned out to be a rattling boot latch mechanism internally. A spray of white grease into the latch fixed it
Any tips or legal ways to reduce the insurance for this car for a 22 year old in london? 😓
Add your parents as named drivers.
Waiting for the lease car to go then bmw m140i is going to be on the drive 😄
Literally two weeks into buying one - almost exact same spect different alloys absolutely love it - body kit remap in the summer 🙏
@@tomdwyer5695how many miles did you buy it at? I’m looking at a 68 plate with about 62k mileage I don’t know if that’s high or okay for this car
How much is Bird’s suspension kit? The rough roads round mine but me off this car.
£1300 all in i think. You can get Bilstein B8 dampers which are very similar for less though.
I have Bird’s kit on mine. Came with the car. Ride is still firm but much better damped than factory apparently. Handles great.
How much are they to service on average?
At an indie mechanic it’s around £180 for a minor service and about £240-£350 for a major service. At the main dealer it’s a lot more haha.
I love the M140i and being watching a lot of reviews and videos about it but Ive 2 children(3 and 9) and I think the back is small for chairs, so im kinda in between M140i and 440i grand coupe. If anyone has an M140i and has kids could let me know about the space for kids?
340i estate is probably the car you want. Both the m140i and 440i GC can be a bit awkward when putting in car seats.
@@ParagonCarsLondon Not looking for an state tbh. I have an Audi a4 and there's plenty of space so I was assuming the 440i grand coup would be the same space.
@@ZKRITTEX Legroom in the 440i GC is good, it's just the sloping roof line can make things a bit awkward to get in. If you can get over that then it's a great family car as it has a hatchback style boot as well.
@@ParagonCarsLondon what about power driving compared to M140i? I was looking to get a test drive on both but nobody selling those near me.
@@ZKRITTEX The 140i is a bit quicker but only really because it's lighter. Both cars use the same B58 engine so they're very similar really.
I've had mine about 8 months. After 30 days I considered flogging it. The suspension is total garbage. Its crashy and pogo which gets worse the faster you go. Id say its verging on being dangerously bad. I got the birds kit fitted. It's night and day. Lot of money but I'd have sold it without having it done. You will not keep up with a birds car over a bumpy b road with stock passive suspension. I've also seen slightly over 51 mpg in eco which is mind blowing.
Did the birds kit lower the car?
@gtaylor3281 if it did I can't tell. It was designed to be stock replacement. But I'm sure you can ask them to make it lower.
Which type of engine oil did you use? 0w 20? I’ve read so many different opinions, some only put in 5w 30
Also how many miles roughly do the rear tyres last?
Good quality 0w 20 or 5w30 are both fine. If you’re mapped and doing a lot of track work then a good 5w30 is your best bet. It more comes down to managing temps and changing the oil on time. Am yet to find out exactly how many miles rear tyres last but my guess would be 12,000 miles from the way i drive haha.
You can go through a tank of fuel going to work and back in two days when your commute is 8 miles one way? 🤔
Also why the blur on the dials at 11 minutes? You didn’t seem to be speeding so maybe I’m missing something 🤷🏻♂️
The above aren’t criticisms - sorry but text doesn’t carry tone - first video of yours I’ve ever watched as the algorithm put it in my feed 👍🏻
Shutttttt up??!!! There's another 12v?!!! I've had mine two years. Had an m135i a few years ago as well. Didn't have a clue.
Need to check that!
Girls car
The main problem with this car is that you sold the Cupra for it 🫤
Cupra is a level below in every way.
@@DjNikGnashers I think there are pros and cons to both. Handling/diff/b-road blasting/options as standard/rear space lean Cupra but BMW has the amazing engine and nicer interior quality? I don't think I would pay 3X more insurance (because of their accident rates I guess?) to have the BMW.
@@anthonymeek4248 You must live in a particularly bad post code area for insurance, because when I had an M140i (owned for 4 years), the insurance wasn't even double the cost of my car previous to that, a diesel E91 touring 3 series.
So there is not a chance it would have been 3 times the cost of a similar catagory car like a Cupra R.
I never owned a Cupra R but have driven many, as I worked in the motor trade.
It is a level below in every area, slower, lower quality, lower residual value, and the Cupra isn't even any more economical, or has any significant gains in practicality. The M140i is very practical, great boot space, rear seats fold flat it's like a van in the back.
I don't see the Cupra as being better handling either, and the M140i isn't known for it's agile chassis lol. They felt on par with each other, just in different ways, the Cupra being FWD obviously has to be driven in a different way to get the best out of it, and the M140i being RWD is completely different.
I know which was a lot more FUN, and that is the RWD little bruiser M140i, by far.
@@DjNikGnashers It isn't the area it's my age (22) and the statistics around the car. I am also referring to a regular Cupra 300/290 (as was owned previously on the channel which the commenter mentioned).
Are you referring to the limited-run Cupra R of recent years or the much older one?
A 1 series feels a bit pokey inside, imo vs a golf and the boot is a more awkward shape to fit a nuclear warhead into (thanks Jezza!). I am torn between the two cars, but sentiments certainly leaned toward a stock 140i as being better suited to as a mini GT cruising high speed on dual carriageways versus the Cupra being the lighter-footed one (but still not touching focus ST, Type R, etc - though they sacrifice other areas further). Living life fast has a great pov video where he exposes the “scary” stock damping when pushing on and the comment section backs this. Wether that matters in day to day road use tho is subjective.
@@anthonymeek4248 I think you really need spend some time in one anthony.
I bought a standard M140i in late 2019, it was just over 2 & a half years old, 14,600 miles 1 owner from new.
It was an auto (the ZF8 is a BRILLIANT box), and had adaptive dampers.
Up to 7/10ths it was a fantastic car, and it isn't until you really start to push the limits, that you notice it's flaws.
For a daily driver, wow, it is very comfortable in comfort mode, the wife loved it. I took it to 455bhp/634nm with a 200 cell wagner cat and a day on the dyno, I had xHP software flashed to the transmission control unit, and upgraded the brakes to m performance dimpled & grooved.
In comfort mode you could not even tell it was changing gear, but in traction off mode and sport gearbox, it was a beast. I pulled away from Golf R's, A45S's, RS3's, Tesla model 3 dual motors, base 911's, even an aston martin db9, mate they are rocket ships.
Handling was 'good' but when you pushed it beyond 8/10ths, yes the damping was an issue, it did pogo a bit, the rear end felt loose and wobbly, it snaked under acceleration, and the steering is a bit numb.
If you want a go kart, the M140i isn't one.
A dual carriageway monster is a good way to describe it, and the tuning potential is massive, some ppl are running over 1000bhp from the B58, incredible.
I now have an OG M2, which is better in every way, except for the engine, I really miss that B58.