2017 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid Review and Road Test In 4K UHD!
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- The Pacifica Hybrid is more than just the first hybrid minivan in America, more than just Chrysler's first in-hours hybrid design, it also manages to be the most impressive hybrid I've driven in 2017. With an EV range of 33 miles and fuel economy of 32MPG+ in hybrid mode, this 5,000 pound box on wheels manages to beat the Toyota Highlander hybrid in terms of fuel economy while costing up to $10,000 less. The price tag is perhaps the most impressive part of the Pacifica e-Hybrid because it manages to be less expensive than any comparable non-hybrid minivan in America. Let's hope FCA applies this same formula to a few other vehicles in the lineup sooner rather than later.
0-30 : 2.55 Seconds
0-60 : 7.1 Seconds
1/4 Mile : 16 Sec @ 85 MPH
60-0 Braking : 138 Feet
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Owned this hybrid for the past month, an absolutely work of art, easily drive 95% of our city commute with electric only.
@Mathieu Bouvier you still love the mini van? I am considering getting one soon
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How has it held up Matt?
Alex, one of the best things you do in your reviews is when a new concept is introduced (i.e. MPGe) you always do a quick step-back and review moment where you clarify the concept being described. I love that.
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I own one of these Pacifica hybrids and my family loves it. My wife and i have five kids so this van meets our needs and van is a joy to drive. The fuel savings are incredible! Chrysler did a great job designing this vehicle.
Any issues? I've read about some uconnect problems, engine run problems (where the engine runs in cold weather mode even when it's not too cold), and some power loss problems.
How reliable has it been?
Do u still own it? Any reliability issues?
i would buy one just to use as a panel van. 30mpg plus 30 miles electric range can save my business tons in operating cost and total cost of ownership. being able to hold 7 people means payload should be good enough for my equipment
Jonathan Dittmar won't be long before ups ,FedEx and the usps have these in a panel van plug in configuration.
ttiwehde yeah it amazing this is more fuel efficient then many midsize sedans.
That's a great concept. Those trucks could fit a massive battery array along the entire bottom floor pan. Weight at the bottom and close to the ground will create good balance for the truck as well. Could maybe get a 350-400 mile range conservatively.
That's if this thing doesn't break down in 5 years.
Take home message. Need a three-row? Don't get an SUV, get a minivan. Need a minivan? get the Pacifica Hybrid.
this is the best review I've seen ever. great detailed info and the way you explain things is really easy to understand
No HID headlights? No memory driver's seat? NO HEATED SECOND ROW? Argh, that sucks. Halogens are dangerously dim, memory seats are very useful for multiple drivers (which a vehicle like this will likely have), and heated seats are much more important in electric vehicles, as using the cabin heater significantly reduces the range. It makes no sense that the standard Pacifica would have a feature that would have been more useful in the hybrid! It would be nice to have an EV or hybrid that adds or keeps all features instead of taking them away.
By the way, your reviews are some of my favorite ones of any channel. I appreciate your attention to detail. Keep it up!
This is one of the best and most thorough car review videos I've come across. I had to comment to say thanks for the great review.
I never tend to leave comments but this i got to say! Your reviews are by far the best reviews on youtube.... PERIOD!!! Congratulations!!! we bought our Pacifica Hybrid last month thanks to this reviews!!! THANKS!!
Impressive review. Really appreciate the list of deletions between the hybrid and standard Pacifica and the explanation on their MPGe. Chrysler hit a home run with this!
I’ve watched a number of your reviews, and I find them to be the most through and in-depth vehicle reviews on the net! Thank you so much for all the work that you do in making this presentation!!! ☮️🖖🏽
As usual great review! I love how he gives you the numbers so you can calculate if it's worth getting an the comparisons.
For me, this car, if you need a great 7 passenger car with storage and do at least 1 road trip every 2 months or more and do allot of traveling with more than 2 people, is totally worth purchasing. Missing some features sucks but I could probably do without it. The stow and go is the biggest "aww man come on" part of not being able to use. Also, I would mention that there isn't enough data on long term ownership cost of a hybrid power train from Chrysler (it is a Chrysler so reliability may be meh). Repairs on a hybrid might be more costly than for a regular has engine.
If you don't fit into the family of three or more, do multiple trips with 3 or more, weekend warrior type, road trip type, this isn't for you.
The regular minivan to me isn't worth a purchase unless your use rate is even higher than the use cases for the hybrid. Add in you are a Uber driver or something and maybe... The regular minivan would be a lease if you know you will need it at least 2 weekends a month, or a rental because you use this style of car once every 2 months on average and the occasional road trip.
I wasn't watching car review videos before, but now I do because this superb channel has high-quality consistent well-edited format and a pleasant fluent commentator. So, thanks.
My very first minivan!! Awesome job Alex.
Please please make em available in right hand drive!! Fantastic achievement Chrysler...great well balanced and informative review Alex.
Your videos are so informative, it feels like I am watching a online course offered by a car dealerships. LOL
Mobin Mahmoudi But with integrity.
Great explanation of DTE calculation
This is the most thorough review I've seen. I've already decided to buy one but this was still very helpful (It's April 2018 and I'm waiting to see what the 2019 models have; hopefully LED headlamps). But although your reviews do an excellent job of balancing the benefits and shortcomings, there is one thing you failed to consider.
Every review I've read or watched sees the lack of stow-and-gp 2nd row seats as a detriment. While this may be true for families with varying needs, minivans aren't just for families. I'm single and rarely, if ever, expect to use the 2nd or 3rd row of seats. I'm getting this car (in preference to other PHEVs) for it's cargo capacity. The first thing I intend to do is pull out the 2nd row and collapse the 3rd row. It's unlikely that I will ever put them back.
I wish I could remove the 3rd row too. Not only does removing them open up even more cargo space but it lowers the weight of the car. Those two 2nd row seats cost 130 lbs. So the second thing I intend to do is get out my tools and see what's involved in getting rid of the 3rd row.
Very well done review! I love the fact that you really research the vehicle cles you review and provide so many details that aren't readily available.
Most detailed and knowledgeable review online so far.
you really know how to explain all the different aspects about this minivan compared to others. well done.
A visit to the Chrysler Pacifica owner forums reveals owners complaints of serious problems w/ Pacifica PHEV's. They stop running, get towed to the dealers where they sit for days, awaiting parts/repairs. Some owners mentioned the problem reoccurring, after they were "fixed".
Too bad FCA has such a broad, dismal, frequency of failure track record.
This is a soccer mom/dad van. Most owners who are having no problems are unlikely to be visiting car specific forums. People who have problems tend to complain, hence what you see on that forum.
This guys knows more about this car than the people who sale them for a living.
when i saw the Yeti, i knew I could trust your reviews even more.
nice and detailed review as always. can you please provide some information on the recent issues of van stops while running and Chrysler is recalling them for fix. how serious the issue is and how it is affecting potential buyers.
Alex: Great Review! I sat in this vehicle at the Detroit/North American Auto Show and was really impressed....except for the front seats which I personally found exceptionally uncomfortable. I am thin, 6'4" and thought they were flat, firm and without sufficient bolstering. (Normally I agree with your seat comfort assessment...)
Great video Alex.. Always a joy watching them! Do you know if you'll be getting a look at the Genesis G80 Sport any time soon?
We should have one in a few weeks.
Hopefully by the 2018 model, FCA will add the things missing compared to the gas Pacifica. That's when I'll buy one. Awesome car and review!
Best and most comprehensive review so far, but I don't get no spare tire, isn't that illegal
I really like this PHEV minivan idea..But I am more consider about Chrysler's over all quality.
Chrysler... a company whose cars such as the Town and Country have been plagued with electrical and engine issues for the past 6 years. Not a company I'd jump into for a full hybrid atm with triple the electrical potential problems over their non hybrids.. Been 6 months and 3k out of my own pocket and Chrysler hasn't even figured out whats wrong with my 14 Chrysler Town and Country. Good luck with this car. Hopefully they fixed the issues with their new version of the fail Pentastar V6. Chrysler hidden issues with these motors is no secret. An internet search is all it takes.
Like most Chrysler vehicles, who knows how (un-) reliable this will be but it's a damn nice car.
Jdpower might have an idea. www.jdpower.com/cars/articles/jd-power-studies/2017-us-initial-quality-study-results
Could you do a review on the pros and cons of a fix-a-flat vs spare tire?
No glovebox liighting? I understand they have to save money. But what is that? How much does that cost? 1 dollar?
ast5515 I own a Pacifica and it does have a glovebox light.
Another great review, Alex! Your review of the 2014 Durango is what drove us to purchase one. Now we're looking at a Pacifica.
Would you purchase this or the non-hybrid version? I really wish this had some of the luxuries of the non-hybrid. Why didn't they put in memory seats at least?
As usually an excellent review, thx Alex. No auto dimming mirrors seem to be a bit strange, they must have consume too much electricity ;).
FCA bring that to Europe, whatever badge to stick to that!
Thanks for the review, really great year for plug in hybrids.. Hopefully within the next few years everyone will be looked at funny for not driving the plug in hybrid version of their desired car.
Apart for being an " Chrysler" , the sexiest mini van eve built IMO... Honda Odyssey looks like a funeral car, Toyota Sienna just plain...
Great Review Alex. I am surprised at the MPG as well. Dang.
Not providing glovebox lighting is like saying: VI AR THE GODS OF AUTOMATION. VI GIVE YOU HYBRID. VI DONT GIVE YOU ALL SO YOU DONT GET OVERCONFIDENT. Anyway, good review as always - but weird Chrysler would miss out on some features.
I'm not why you quit picking in the Volt fuel economy calculations. The Volt gives both readings, one that counts electricity as free and one that factors in the electrical energy content. If you have both vehicles, you can absolutely compare them apples to apples.
Another great job. Thanks Alex.
Would you buy this thing knowing terrible reliability from Chrysler ? 10K is great incentive but would you risk it?
I want to buy this minivan but that reliability though I am not sure if it will last.
Hope to see 2018 Honda odyssey review.
Those 0-60 times for the regular Pacifica (and the Toyota Sienna FWD which would be faster than the AWD model) are better than a 1960 Chrysler 300F, which probably got about half the mpg of those non-hybrids while polluting about a thousand times more. Ah, the Good Olde Days!
thank you for the detailed review!
please can you also review the 2018 Honda Odyssey
I am a proud owner of this vehicle and our kids would be disappointed that you didn't cover the dual touchscreens in the second row. it allows for Blu-ray or DVD playback on each screen as well as built in games that pass the time away.
Maybe a followup video on Infotainment options for cars?
We actually have a full video that's devoted just to that system in the Pacifica on our channel :)
@@AAutoBuyersGuide When will you do a full review of the 2018 Pacifica Hybrid? Very much enjoy your reviews!
This helped me a great deal, thanks.
Hey Alex, have you heard any update on the reasons why this vehicle has been SO delayed in its release? We ordered one back in December and are still waiting!! I've seen recap notices about faulty diods and only have a temp fix for now... we would still love to get this car, but I seriously question Chrysler's quality with the severity of this problem/ delay...
Excellent review and comparison. I have been waiting the Pacifica to come in stock in San Diego. For the tow package, do you know if we can add it after market ?
This van is huge when standing next to a Toyota Siena. The design makes it seem small.
Very Good 👍 Excellent Review
Thanks for the detailed review. I wish a few of the unavailable items were available as options (homelink, memory seat, HID, dimming mirrors, in that order), and I'm bummed by your "B-" handling rating (we currently have a 2006 Sienna that I'd give an A for handling w/ Goodyear Assurance ConforTred Touring H-rated tires). Maybe by 2018 some of that will change. I've been burned by buying a first-model-year vehicle before, so I'd wait at least a year before getting one of these, but it does look nice. Q: I can lay 4x8' sheets of plywood flat on the floor in my 06 Sienna. Can that be done in the Pacifica? Not that it's a big deal, but it has come in handy once.
Should I go through the trouble and trade in my leased 17' CX-9 for this hybrid? I can use the fuel savings. Currently I get about 570 km range on 65 litre if I drive really sober. But around 500 km if I drive rough. If I can reach 800-850 km range with this pacifica, would my trouble be worth it? I know I might have to pay some fees. But at the time I needed the car, Pacifica wasn't available in my area for a few more months.
Can't give you a definite Yes or No, as it really depends on your needs and usual driving routes, as well as your actual location and local/government incentives.
Do you drive locally often? Do you really need a large vehicle? How high (or low) are your local utility rates, and do they provide different rates for different times?
Right now, it's probably very difficult or impossible to order a 2017, which will leave you with more time to go through the lease and reduce/remove the trade-in penalty.
If you do need more than 5 seats, that one, to me, is a clear winner. But again, Your Mileage May Vary!
Halogen headlights?! Come on FCA. Cheapens the vehicle instantly. I want the best headlights for my family when driving at night
The loss of some of those premium features is disappointing but not a deal breaker for me (since I've never had them in a vehicle anyway). But I was really disappointed over the lack of HID headlamps. Every hybrid or plug-in I've ever owned at least had the option for HID's or LEDs. I didn't used to be a fan of LEDs but the LED headlamps in my Volt are fantastic! Would it be easy to order the HID parts separately and install them in the Pacifica Hybrid, or are we looking at needing to completely replace the headlamp assembly to do that?
Still no apple CarPlay? The Kia Sedona has had that for 2 model years already. Also a lot of features missing for no obvious reason from the top of the line Pacifica
Is the low gear mode limited to a maximum speed? On long trips, where you might not be able to charge the battery from the grid during the night, you might want use the low gear to maintain an intermediate level of charge on the battery.
I did not see this here (I may have overlooked it), but I've read that when the Pacifica Hybrid goes over 75 mph in EV mode, the engine will turn on, correct? If so, have you (or any other Pacifica Hybrid owners out there) noticed if it will continue mostly using the battery until depleted or will it work effectively like the "hold mode" in other PHEVs?
The Pacifica lineups are already out selling Honda, Toyota and Kia minivans this year.
1 shot every time he says "cargo".
You will wake up in Vegas, married, with a face tat and missing a tooth.
1300!!!!!! Hot damn
you should note that all the Pacifica hybrids have been voluntarily recalled.
203.8 inches is long? Guess how long a Buick Electra 225 was!
How reliable are these?
Plug in...what costs are involved to accommodate the electric line in your garage for the plug in? Also, what 'risks' are involved when say, traveling cross-country to finding recharging plug in stations?
I paid $500 for a 240 V charger and another $500 for an electrician to install the wiring. This was 5 years ago and I believe the costs have come down since. I also had a 200 amp panel already. If you need an additional panel, the costs will be higher. You could charge with a 120 V plug but it would take a good deal longer.
As for cross-country, since this thing runs on gas when the battery is drained, it's not a problem (assuming you can find a gas station).
hey Alex can you please make a review of the 2017 Audi A4?
Alex this is the first time I see you rant on this much about being anti-SUV/crossovers in one of your reviews. I fully support that statement however. Seriously this SUV craze in America is something that needs to pass on quickly.
An example is my old man who's driving an old Mitsubishi SUV which is likely due for replacement within a year. Thankfully I knocked some sense into him of fuel economy & hybrids, but he's so sold on that a family of 6 people NEEDS a 3 row SUV/crossover to do the job when I think something like this Pacifica PHEV will be the perfect solution.
I wouldn't say I am anti-crossover, I just think that if you have a family and want a third row that's more than just an emergency seat, you need to break down and admit that a minivan is what you need.
Trades46 , Large SUVs are hideous without more interior space. They never make sense to me. Originally it was just a truck with enclosure and seats. The ground clearance and good clear road view was the attraction. Minivan still provides more ground clearance than sedans.
The SUV 'craze' is 25 years in now. It is the new norm. Would love to see coupe/2 door versions of cars come back, but that boat has sailed off forever.
Alex on Autos and how would you suggest we tow our travel trailer with the 5 of us and the dog? Now, I despise the crossover, it's absurd, but the hate of the big SUV's is silly. All we have left is the suburban and the expedition, everything else has gone car based, with no real towing capacity. I'd love it if the brought back the excursion and the 2500 suburban.
Status update: finally convinced that the 3rd row wasn't needed, and instead traded the Mitsubishi Outlander V6 in...for a Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV. Still an SUV but an amazingly efficient one similar to this Pacifica Hybrid.
where are the runner up vehicles and value pick and stuff
If there is no home link how does one open the garage door? Don't tell me I have to hang my old remote on the shade again.😒
Hey Alex which car would u suggest for me this or a XC60 phev
The lack of memory seats is the biggest thing for me, heated rear seats is important too among a few others.
When there is almost a foot of height difference between you and your spouse the memory seats are a must have.
They should offer a trim above the platinum that adds back in most of what they took out. It won't be a huge seller but some of us want it.
The one issue is there are major incentives on the gas model so prices actually become similar even with federal tax credit.
Haha, the intro volume was brought down since people complained so much
Hmm. It'd be awesome if it's electric awd like the new Prius
I am bit confused..Should I buy Mazda CX9 or should I go for Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid. My annual mileage doesn't go more than 10000 miles
The CX-9 is a better drive especially with AWD, but the Pacifica Hybrid if you charge every opportunity & a home charger, would be significantly cheaper to run. Also the Pacifica would sit 7 people much more comfortably than any SUV in existence.
Depends on what you'll use it for. If you're looking for AWD and the "fun factor," then the CX 9 is your best bet. If you're looking to fit 7 people and their cargo comfortably and avoid gas for your commutes, then the Pacifica is your best bet.
On a personal note, I like Mazda's. I used to own a Mazda 3 and it is the most fun I've had in a car, especially on windy, hilly terrain. I expect the CX 9 would be fun too. I don't have much experience driving Chrysler's and their reputation for reliability (or lack thereof) give me pause.
No solution for charge plug cap?
How could they possibly leave Carplay and Android Auto out?! Deal killer.
I think the 2018 model has it.
It would be nice if there's an option to add another 16KWH battery so this can go up to 60 miles all electric
And where would they put it?
emjayay , 1st row of seats
All of this is great, except reliability. With this model being in its first year, unfortunately I would be scared to even lease it beyond 3 years. And since I need to put in 18k miles per year, lease price for that does not make any sense for me. Sorry Chrysler, I'd rather BUY a Toyota.
Any data to back up these claims? Initial reliability seems to be tops in its class. www.jdpower.com/cars/articles/jd-power-studies/2017-us-initial-quality-study-results
no data, just well known facts - Chrysler 200 = quality failure, late Jeep Cherokee = failure, Pacifica using similar transmission to that. Enough scary things to scare me away
The Hybrid version doesn't use the same transmission as the regular pacifica and jeep cherokee. It's a much simpler EVT, which is bound to be a lot more reliable and durable.
Love your video, but don't think the statement "saving over a thousand dollars a year even if [not plugged in]" is correct. Not plugging it would just make it a (albeit impressive) 32 mpg car, vs 22 mpg. Assume 13,000 miles per year, at $3 per gallon, that'll be savings of 131 gallons and $393.
These estimates were based on an average of 19 MPG in the average non hybrid minivan (generically jamming all the non-hybrid models together), a 15K per year driving cycle (what the EPA calls "average") and the 33 MPH real world MPG we got out of the PHEV Pacifica you get $1044/year in savings. Your mileage will vary of course. If you do alot of highway driving the non hybrid Pacifica can average 22-23 and teh delta will be $300ish, if you do alot of city driving the delta will be larger around $1,200ish.
That's good news to me as a prospective buyer. Thanks
They're getting rid of all those features in a TOP trim hybrid? That's a huge fail.
Hey Alex,
Could you review a Range Rover? Preferably Discovery Sport?
or RANGE ROVER EVOQUE SE?
When will they add apple car play
Its FCA so this'll have 20 recalls and parts failing in 6 months. Corner cutting is the FCA moto.Honda Odessey for me. I'll take reliability any day over this.
Dont forget utility discounts!
Honestly, I would buy this vehicle if it had electric AWD.
Is a level 1 evse provided with the car?
Yes, the level 1 does come with the car and stores in the trunk area like Alex shows in the video. Nice thing about this car is the level 1 is sufficient to charge the Pacifica each night so you always start out with 33mi electric range each day without having to purchase a level 2 evse if you don't want to.
How is walking through the middle not convenient. Maybe not for you, but for other people it is.
Feels like, we've already seen that?
Why Americans call those cars "mini-vans", if they're "very long" even for you? Here in Europe, mini-vans are cars like the Ford C-Max, VW Touran, Opel/Vauxhall Meriva. I guess, what you call "vans" are "transporters" here.
It's just nomenclature, in terms of sedans the US is also one step larger, A Honda Civic is mid size in EU but in the US mid size is refering to Accord. Where in Japan the Fit/Jazz is consider mid size.
Never more Gazoline CARS get it am keeping my old one
Reliability??? As I know Durango has lot problem compare even to Ford explorer. Like middle console with gear knob selection. Nice seat too compare to Honda or Toyota. I don't like rear cargo door outside design. That black shinny trim looks cheesy, actually prefer Sienna's rear look to all minivans, Honda put too much chrome and it will look ugly in few years.
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I would love to get this car if it was japaneese, but I just can't trust chrysler
My thoughts exactly but there's nothing else out there to compare. Under the right conditions the fuel savings over any other minivan could be significant over the next couple of years. That combined with the tax credit makes it hard to pass on.
If you're waiting for a decent competitor to this car from Japan, you're going to be waiting a VERY LONG TIME! So far, Toyota and Honda are more interested in hybrids (which are garbage IMHO), and Nissan hasn't shown any sign of putting a plug on anything other than the Leaf.
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Total biased video. You should be comparing against the other mini vans not the traverse only. You're just a video brochure for Chrysler.
i mean... its a mini van
it's purpose is to haul ass and be comfy
if its good at hauling ass then its a good minivan
its not supposed to be sporty.... * COUGH*....... jason camisa ...........*COUGH*
I love me some mini-vans...oh wait, no I don't.
Justin's Pit Lane Yet you are watching a minivan review. So you must be a troll then, otherwise you are an idiot looking at videos regarding things you don't even like. Come on, don't tell me you were expecting to see BRZs, 325s, STIs etc. here...