Blake you are right on about Speed Queen. I have been a senior tech for Speed Queen, Whirlpool, Sub Zero, and Wolf for over 40 years. Speed queen washer/dryer are in my laundry room Keep up the videos!!!! Joe Yelda Hailey Idaho
mind reading the question I just posed ? would love your input as well. These washcloths are not touched at all, they look the same as prior to the wash, zero change. I can't understand it. This is not what I expected.
There are not a lot of videos on Speed Queen front load machines. Would love to see you make a video talking about those and how it compares to other front loaders and how it compares to the Speed Queen top loaders. Thanks for the amazing videos!!
SQ's front loaders solve the same problems as other brand front loaders - namely, they *actually clean things* instead of furiously sloshing them around in 70 gallons of diluted, murky, laundry soup... but they also have the same SQ shortcomings as their top loaders - ancient design, low capacity, no real innovation. Forget quiet, reliable direct drive or accelerometer-based balancing, 1,300 RPM spin, recirculating jets, multiple wash actions, etc... you get a 1960's era two-speed motor and a contactor like on an HVAC unit that clacks and clunks between modes. lmao
I have a speed Queen washer. The dryer is Electrolux. Last week the dryer stopped heating. Called in the repair guy. He walked over to the laundry and said, “you are having problems with a SpeedQueen?!!!” He relaxed when I pointed toward the non speed Queen dryer. 😂
I have a Speed Queen washer and dryer made in 1998. They are actually branded as "Amana commercial quality" washer and dryer but they are really Speed Queens with a slightly fancier control panel. They look and operate like new and I have only had to replace the drive belt in the washer.
I bought TR 7 last year, LOVE IT. I was going to buy the classic but my sales guy (who I have been doing business with for many years) recommended the TR 7 because of the longer warranty. They are expensive $3000.
I've got this same problem, I think I've purchased five washers in the last twelve years. Going to look at a speed queen. I just wish they had a see through lid.
I am in 5 years now with a TR7 and the matching dryer.. no issues with it.. i will say that im thinking about getting a TC5 (or the commercial version) to have for my diesel engine clothes.. while ive domne well with getting the diesel clothes clean on the TR7 by using some dawn platinum in my wash.. and the "poor man's double wash - which is some soap in the fabric softener dispenser and the extra rinse selected" I do something think a real aggressive wash action might be better for those.. one thing to remember too is that SQ upped the wash action a bit from 2018 to 2019.. so those complaining about the 2018 TR series might find the 2019+ are somewhat better.. mine is a 2019 and works good.. also learn hopw to load it and set it.. just a;ways setting max water level in a TR is NOT the best way to clean.. ive found the Auto level to get clothes the cleanest.. my regular every day clothes set on auto, with light soil level and speed cycl;e get done in 30 minutes and are clean as can be.. the TR is much different than many are used to but for most families it will do a fine jon.. if you are getting a washer for a shop, business or a laundromat where people typically overload the machines.. I would stick with the old style transmission agitator machine.. I have had zero luck finding the vintage whirlpool washer id love to have as my second machine.. so i'll likely get a TC5 for my diesel clothes..
Never did I think I would pay the price of a Speed Queen for a washer. But from what I'm seeing, I should save money in the long run when it comes to repairs. Plus, my wife's 32 year old Kitchen Aid (that still runs, but is close to the end) has her spoiled when it comes to simplicity, and cleaning cloths. From my research I find the Speed Queen is simple, reliable, and will clean dirty cloths as well as her old Kitchen Aid. She has picked out the TC5, and we will order it this Saturday.
Blake, first thank you for the video, this is very good and accurate information. We've owned 2 sets of Speed Queen top load washers/dryers. We're a military family and the only reason we've sold the 2 sets were because we moved somewhere where we couldn't take them. My question though is, how do the newer front load Speed Queens perform vs the traditional top load? Do the SQ front load get the smell issues and mildew build up that most of the other front load machines get? We are moving back to the US this summer from Europe and will be buying another set but debating between the simplicity of the traditional top load and the front load. Also, since you are a repair tech, are there any other brands besides SQ that you recommend? SQ are some of the smallest capacity machines on the market today and we have a very large family. With our top load we do 2-3 loads everyday and it would be nice to have a larger capacity machine to cut that down to 1-2 loads. But we would never want to sacrifice the quality we've had with the SQ's. We average 18-21 loads a week and both sets were bullet proof (unlike a Samsung set we had before and 3 Bosch machines we've gone through so far in 3 years in Europe).
They need to crank out larger capacity washers, especially of the tC5. The small capacity and lacking a dual action agitator is the only thing that has me on the fence of going the SQ route once my cheapie GE conks out.
@@pittmanx6 ehh no need. I have used speed queens before when I lived in an apartment complex 10 years ago. I hated having to wait in front of the washer whenever I washed my king comforter. Had to push it down under water because the agitator could not circulate. A slightly larger capacity would’ve helped mediate that, a dual action agitator would’ve completely solved it. Honestly the agitator doesn’t even need to be dual action, GE’s one piece heavy duty agitator actually does a great job circulating. All Speed Queen has to do is redesign the vanes to the upper half of the agitator so it does better moving things down. Zero complexity added
I think that the TC5000 (Classic) fills a really important niche in todays market. It is the perfect machine for some people, and for those people no other washer can come close. I really love Speed Queen's front load laundry and I personally feel like it's deeply underrepresented. I live in a Rural, Ag-dominated area and front-load Speed Queens are incredible for the farmers that are willing to use them. That being said, imho Speed Queen has become pretty overrated. They are not the paragon of reliability that they think they are. In some ways they are just like the machines of 40 years ago, in some ways they are just like other modern machines. Their marketing is often deceptive, preying on people's nostalgia. They are not 100% made in the USA. They do use electronic controls (thank you for mentioning that Blake) from a foreign board partner. I appreciate the benefits from electronic controls over electromechanical solutions, but in my own experience, Speed Queen's electronic controls have mediocre reliability compared to their competition. In 2021 specifically, Speed Queen had the second highest rate of warranty service for me, and I did warranty work on a dozen brands (whirlpool/maytag/amana/etc = 1 brand). I guess you can stay profitable with long warranties and poor reliability if the upfront cost of the machine is high enough lol. I know that it was addressed a couple of years ago now, but the basket balancing ring used to disintegrate because it didn't fit in the basket properly because the manufacturing tolerances were too loose. I vividly remember conversations with customers who bought Speed Queens because the salesman said "they never break down," only to have their machine tear their clothes and dent their drywall from this recall issue. Speed Queen may be the right laundry brand for some other service techs. LG has been the right brand for me.
I agree with what you're saying to a point, but would still buy another SQ. I bought a SQ TC5 classic, the circuit board needed to be replaced within one year, but was covered under warranty. I think they are overpriced, and they are only "as good" as a regular washing machine from 30+ years ago. They're not miraculous, they just wash laundry well, and should last 25 years. For me, it was a simple cost benefit analysis... buy one overpriced SQ that should last 25 years, or buy 4 inferior machines that will end up costing me more over that time period. I bought one hoping it will last like old appliances used to. Everyone else has gotten used to the new normal of buying new appliances every 8 years, but that is unacceptable to me. With planned obsolescence, every other brand is crap, so I guess SQ will do. I have not used LG washers, but I have had terrible experience with all of their other appliances. My house came with mostly LG appliances that are about 5-7 years old. The LG Linear Compressor fridge is trash, and the dishwasher has already needed all the major components replaced (under home warranty). The dishwasher does wash well, but my next one will be a Bosch/Miele purely for longevity.
@@FlufferNutterSandwich Speed Queen tells consumers to expect a 25 year life span. Certainly some of their machines will last that long. I am really skeptical that a majority of the SQ machines sold today will make it to 25. 25/8 is much closer to 3:1 than 4:1, but, of the consumers that will get 25 years from a SQ, I expect them to get 10+ years from even some of the basic Amana top loads. Reliability is one one of the factors keeping typical appliance turnover less than 10 years. Even if the appliance is fully functional, many modern consumers will choose to replace it in under 10 years because they want new colors or new features. I have great respect for the consumers that don't need a new-shiny toy periodically, and for them, SQ is more likely to be a good fit (particularly the TC5). The point is, even if reliability was the same, SQ might "outlive" other brands just because of consumer behavior. I have a big granite slab that I beat my laundry against to clean it. It will outlive a Speed Queen by hundreds of years, but that doesn't make it a better washer ;) I have used a SQ AWN412 as my shop washer, and I have loved it in that role. I do my personal laundry in an LG WM3555HWA and I wouldn't even consider replacing it with a top-load SQ when it dies some day.
I appreciate this perspective. Shame its not quite as reliable or sturdy as claimed but I dont think that will dissuade me because no other washer actually fills up with water or lets me saok or actually agitates.
I was once a huge Speed Queen stan, loving that I could control water level, temperatures, etc. with manual controls. We had the top-loading AWN432 washer and its matching dryer. The washer is wonderful - still have it in the garage - but the dryer had two heat sensor failures within only 4 years of use, so to the crusher it went. For this reason I wouldn’t buy SQ again. 😢. We instead bought the LG WM8900 front loading washer with dryer and so far they’ve been excellent.
The thermo fuse in our Speed Queen dryer has blown twice in 8 years. I keep a spare and can replace it in less than 10 minutes, they are cheap. It has never blown on me, but I always do full loads. It only blows on my wife's loads. I think it is because she does partial loads with lightweight materials and runs it too long.
They're on the list for sure! In the meantime, we do have this video where Blake recommends his favorite brand in each category: ua-cam.com/video/oC9PufP0UtI/v-deo.html
@muziklvr7776 Those are truly too new. A good set would need to be older than 30 to 40 years. Back then, they were made of quality materials. They were not made energy efficient, were water waisters, and not generally gentle on clothes. There are good things in the newer washer/dryer, at least at the one that I am looking at. Sadly, it seems like the most one can get is 10 years or 15 if you are lucky. The pair we have at our complex is about 14 years and is going strong, beyond the abuse of all the tenants.
Yeah, my condo has Speed Queen top load (never use) and front load (I do use) washers. I use the front load for large items that don't fit in my Gorenje in my own condo. The SQ front load washers are definitely not fancy and cleaning is not super even using the longest and hottest cycle. But to purchase one....no-they are too expensive for what you get-I can purchase a Bosch washer and heatpump dryer for the same price. Yes, a SQ may last forever, but that is like saying you want your AMC Pacer to last forever.
I was so excited to buy one.Got it home.Did three loads an oil all over my floor Now they think I'm gonna wait for a month for them to replace the tub.And transmission, because the manufacturer forgot to put the seal in. Personally, I'll never buy a new product from speed.Queen ever again and i'm gonna do my best to return this lemon
Have you heard of the tub bearing and lip seal problem I'm on my 2nd one in 10 years on my AWN432SP The main bearing where the tub sits on the transmission wears out and seal goes bad leaks. It's a poor design cost to pay someone to replace it is $600 I had to do it myself because talking about 2/3 the cost of a new one. 766p3a is the parts kit from Amazon.
Am considering buying the speed queen classic clean model. I like simple features. Was considering the tc7, but like the old fashioned look. Your thoughts. Price I am being quoted for the tc5 is $1229.
As bad I wanted a Speed Queen, the machines are just out of my budget currently. I went with a Maytag (Whirlpool) that I am happy with, but in the future I will be prepared to get a Speed Queen.
As a former maytag owner, you will start to notice strange noises and leaks underneath. then one day it will just croak with a tub full of water and clothes.
A longer warranty is also a paid "extended warranty." This will be a factor in the upfront cost of buying this brand vs what you might have been able to save/invest elsewhere. "Best" is relative, especially when only considered repair rates or life expectencies. The logic here is that a washer that never needs repair is OK even if it uses more water than alternatives, because water is an infinite resource that will never run out.
I dont care about water, I dont like being told to wash my clothes in a puddle and gaslit that its better and I'm happier for it. You wanna wear filthy clothes, by all means be my guest. Dont tell me I MUST adhere to your ideology , I won't do it. I now actually go out of my way to waste water specifically because of low flow bullshit being forced on me. Sometimes I just let the sprinkler run all day
@@evil1by1the low flow water people are the same ones who brag about how energy efficient and climate helpful the new appliances are yet don’t connect that the regulations have made machines last a fraction of the years they used to, leading to so many more appliances in landfills. Real planet friendly.
As I tell my customers, in 1980 people were happy to pay $400 for a washer. If you adjust that $400 for inflation, you're looking at about $1,200 which is the cost of a Speed Queen. There are $400 and $500 machines on the market but how was that price held so low? Quality went out the window. Oddly, many think that $500 is too high for a washer but they'll spend $150 for a replica football jersey. People are willing to pay $90,000 for a pick-up truck but balk at paying $1,200 for a washer that will last three times longer than they'll keep the truck.
just purchased TR7, washcloths I use to remove makeup: no makeup is removed, NONE. I can't imagine what is wrong. Should I have purchased the TC5? Help! My plan is to build a home in the upcoming year. We will sow this new set into the buyers of this home. For the new build now I am wondering is the TC5 should be purchased. Will I have the same issue with it i am wondering. I switched to this after decades of the front loaders but I have to say with those I never had this issue. I understood the speed queen washed tons better than these kinds :( I'm so regretting my purchase.
Sorry to hear that! It's true that the TC7 is less aggressive on clothing than the TC5, but I'm surprised to hear it won't clean your washcloths. I can't say for sure if the TC5 will, but it is known to be more aggressive. Were any of your previous washers able to get the makeup off? If the soil is really that tough, you might just have to pre-treat them unfortunately. Thanks for watching!
@@BoulevardHome all machines I have had since I left home haha have without pre treating, I am now 52. I can tell I am getting a better wash in that the clothes feel better however this is a deal breaker :( I can't understand why its not taking care of this.
I had a Whirlpool duet front load washer that was awesome. It died after 15 years. Is there anything in today’s appliance market that is close to that old school whirlpool duet?
The closest you're going to get to those old school machines is definitely Speed Queen. The TC5 has been basically the same machine for over 30 years, and it works well!
That's great, but I would never buy a top loader; I've had nothing but front loaders for over twenty years and can't imagine going through all the water that a top loader uses.
I'm an old school guy and currently looking at purchasing one of these, but looking for advice on which model. I WANT reliability and at 49, want this to be my last washing machine purchase AND when I "kick the bucket", I want my kids to fight over the washer... hahaha I like the old school knobs due to less electronics and don't really need all these fancy features... I'm a simple guy and all I want is clean clothes and move on. I guess what I am asking is about the agitator... is it really a huge difference with the classic T5 that it will beat up my clothes over the T7?
Thanks for commenting! It really depends on what kind of clothes you have and how dirty they are getting. A lot of clothes these days are just like modern appliances... they don't make them like they used to. What I mean by that is some clothes are cheaply made and can wear out quickly with rough washers, but if you have really rugged durable clothing the TC5 is the way to go. Also just a heads up. Even though the old school knobs look mechanical, it is just a digital board behind these modern Speen Queen Units.
@@BoulevardHome Uhhhhhhhhh.... you're killing me 😂 So the knobs are to deceive us... lol. Well I am a trades guy and my clothes do get dirty with traditional dirt from crawling around in crawl spaces, attics and mechanical rooms but at the end of the day, my wife and I wear more regular "cheap" clothes and I don't really mind the dirty work clothes. That being said then, is the TR7 just as reliable as the TC5 and without the transmission, is this a plus, minus or moot? I really do appreciate your channel and the fact that you personally responded, you ROCK!
@@twotone3426I’m currently shopping and trying to decide between the TC and TR. Store sold both and rep I spoke 5o has the TR in his home. He said that machine works great for them with normal to light soiled clothes (the worst being what you might get with yard work, no oil, etc.), but to go with the classic (TC) if you need a machine that will clean tougher stains. I’m going with the TR bec I don’t do more than yard work and I can always pretreat tough stains. Good luck!
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YMMV, my TC5 blew a belt and or bearing in less than 10 months. We’ll see if my dealer will make good on this if they can ever get here. Id be interested to hear others that have had similar problems with this model in such a short time. Reddit is full of angry SP complainers but thats whats motivating me to write here, haha.
Oh no! We're so sorry to hear that. In our experience, that's definitely unusual for Speed Queen! However, even the best appliances will have their occasional fluke. Wishing you the best of luck with getting it sorted out!
Not really. They cost 3 times price of an LG front loader (highest rated in cleaning and with great reliability) that contains no internal heater. Options are also extremely sparse. Build quality is good though.
I went to a store and they offer me speed queen LWN432SP115TW01. But when I go to official speed queen page I don't find this model. So, what the heck going on 🤔?
@@BoulevardHome I live in Puerto Rico. But looks like they have plenty of them. Looks like they don’t bother to sell them even though the government regulations. Did you think it worth over the TC5?
Top loaders deal better with pet hair and the dirt they produce better than front loaders. Unfortunately , there's no lint filter in them like my old Maytag or the old GE filter Flo washers which filters out pet hair like nobody's business. Only purchase the TC5000 series washer , not the TR.
I have a SQ 412AWN that I bought in 2012. Best washer I've ever owned. One of the blades on the agitator cracked, and we had to just saw it off and file it down smooth. Can the agitators be easily replaced? Thanks!
My Maytag washer and dryer are still going strong 49 years later. Try that with todays tech, including these Speed Queen washers that use sensitive Chinese control boards in order to function.
This thing is over engineered garbage. Needs to be recalled. had to be repaired over 7 time in 5 years. It is still under warranty . This is new repair list Horrible customer service.. I am not lying look at the repair list Speed Queen Flat Rate 1 Warners Stellian /REPAIR - On Site Diagnosis 1 Warners Stellian /REPAIR - Reschedule 1 Speed Queen 203657P Non-Heater Control 1 Speed Queen 803415 Out of Balance Switch 1 Speed Queen 203968 Tub Cover 1 Speed Queen 719P3 Wash Tub 1 Speed Queen 39837 Balance Ring
Some people seem to be oblivious to one key deciding factor here, the price of the appliance. With all due respect, every American (obviously) doesn't have $1200 or more dollars to spend upfront on a washing machine. Now don't get me wrong, I completely understand why Speed Queen washing machines cost so much, it's because of them being built with commercial grade parts and complex machinery to get clothes thoroughly cleaned. But here's the problem, if Speed Queen is supposed to be the leading laundry appliance brand when it comes to reliability, dependability, cleaning performance, and durability, then why aren't there flexible payment options? Yes, one could get a credit card, but then now your credit history comes into play, and that's a whole nother conversation altogether. There's no lease-to-own options that I'm aware of, and it seems that the ONLY option is to buy a Speed Queen washer or a whole set UPFRONT. The sad fact is that everybody doesn't have the financial prowess to be able to afford premium quality stuff. A washing machine brand like Speed Queen that has a remarkably reputable reputation of methodically producing commercial quality laundry machines should have more flexible payment options, otherwise many Americans will continue to have no choice but to buy the notoriously flimsy washing machines that's been produced by other companies for the past couple of decades. GE [General Electric] is a shining exception to this however, at least with the high end model that my family has had for four years and counting without a single issue, and it's been through some of the most rigorous and roughest wash loads that other high efficiency washing machines would instantly break at the seams trying to handle, plus it has a WARM RINSE option and a direct drive transmission on top of that, and the matching dryer runs like a dream. And the ONLY reason why we were able to get this high end washer and dryer set was because of having a lease-to-own payment option, and they're paid off now. So what's the moral of the story here? It's simple, Speed Queen should at least have a lease-to-own payment option if they want their commercial quality washing machines to be more accessible to the public, otherwise they'll only be accessible to those who are wealthy with beefy bank accounts, case and point.
@@nsbioy Are you ok dude? I basically explained more than a month ago why simply " buying " a Speed Queen upfront is not a accessible option for many Americans, the upfront cost is just too high. Which is why more flexible payment options should at least be considered. Make any sense?
@@Enigmaculate Americans use credit cards and pay over time manufacturer-sponsored incentives, in this case those may be provided by the store the washers are sold at. Buying a used washer is also a good option. And do not buy a new car, "dude".
@@nsbioy You're missing one critical detail, you have to have good to excellent credit in order to get approved for a credit card the majority of the time. And the credit system is notoriously broken in America, it's geared more towards the wealthy to make a long and sordid story short. And as far as a used washing machine goes, there's risks that comes with that, it's obviously been used by previous owners (hence the word " used "), and you have no idea if the washer was disinfected, cleaned thoroughly, and if any repairs or replacements were made to any worn down parts, and I'm not just talking about cosmetic wear and tear, I'm talking about wear and tear to MAJOR components. Also, stop comparing buying a washing to buying a car, there's a LOT more hoops to jump through when getting a car, and in the first place, when did I ever bring up buying a new or used car " DUDE "?
@@nsbioy And before you say anything else, I already said what I had to say more than a month ago, I'm not interested in getting into a heated discussion about this. We'll just have to agree to disagree from this point. It's nothing personal, I can just tell that you took offense to me calling you " dude " apparently in my second comment when I asked you " _Are you ok dude?_ ". It was just a general question, I wasn't questioning your cognitive sufficiency or anything, it was simply just a succinct way of asking, " _Did you not thoroughly read what I had posted more than a month ago, did you just impatiently gloss over critical details I had pointed out?_ ". THAT'S what I was asking, nothing more, nothing less. Oh, and one more thing, comparing buying a washing machine to a car whether it's/they're new or used is a night and day comparison. Anyway, this conversation is over. PEACE✌.
Blake you are right on about Speed Queen. I have been a senior tech for Speed Queen, Whirlpool, Sub Zero, and Wolf for over 40 years. Speed queen washer/dryer are in my laundry room Keep up the videos!!!! Joe Yelda Hailey Idaho
Glad to hear that, thanks for sharing!
Which ones do you have in your laundry room, the TC or TR?
What would cause a ED code on a Speed Queen ATEE9ASP175TW01
mind reading the question I just posed ? would love your input as well. These washcloths are not touched at all, they look the same as prior to the wash, zero change. I can't understand it. This is not what I expected.
There are not a lot of videos on Speed Queen front load machines. Would love to see you make a video talking about those and how it compares to other front loaders and how it compares to the Speed Queen top loaders. Thanks for the amazing videos!!
SQ's front loaders solve the same problems as other brand front loaders - namely, they *actually clean things* instead of furiously sloshing them around in 70 gallons of diluted, murky, laundry soup... but they also have the same SQ shortcomings as their top loaders - ancient design, low capacity, no real innovation. Forget quiet, reliable direct drive or accelerometer-based balancing, 1,300 RPM spin, recirculating jets, multiple wash actions, etc... you get a 1960's era two-speed motor and a contactor like on an HVAC unit that clacks and clunks between modes. lmao
Purchased my t5 yesterday and I should have gotten this thing a decade ago.
I have a speed Queen washer. The dryer is Electrolux. Last week the dryer stopped heating. Called in the repair guy. He walked over to the laundry and said, “you are having problems with a SpeedQueen?!!!” He relaxed when I pointed toward the non speed Queen dryer. 😂
I have a Speed Queen washer and dryer made in 1998. They are actually branded as "Amana commercial quality" washer and dryer but they are really Speed Queens with a slightly fancier control panel. They look and operate like new and I have only had to replace the drive belt in the washer.
lol I just enjoy watching Blake. He’s so genuine.
We're so glad to hear that! Blake's pretty great, and always gives us his honest advice!
My wife loves her new TR7/DR7 washer and dryer. They are so much faster and quieter than our less than nine year old GE set was.
I bought TR 7 last year, LOVE IT. I was going to buy the classic but my sales guy (who I have been doing business with for many years) recommended the TR 7 because of the longer warranty. They are expensive $3000.
They definitely are expensive, but they should serve you well! Thanks for watching
I did my homework and purchased one recently in Australia. Pleased I did.
I pick up my TC5 tomorrow
Im looking forward to not having to buy a new washer every 2 or 3 years!
Congrats on your new washer! Hoping that it works well for many many years!
I've got this same problem, I think I've purchased five washers in the last twelve years. Going to look at a speed queen. I just wish they had a see through lid.
I've had their frontload washer for several years, love it.
Glad to hear that, thanks for watching!
Can you do an updated video on the best dryers? 👍
Thank you for the suggestion, we'll add it to the list!
I have the Speed Queen TR7 washing machine and it seems to be a good machine so far.
Like my old school, Maytag washer I miss my harvest gold washing machine
Still have mine, better than the Speed Queens, too.
I never heard of speed queen😮. 5 years is amazing 🎉. I wash daily with 2 dogs,1 son,and us 2 adults so having a good machine is worth it
A lot of Laundromats use them
@jaredbickmore2474 lol only time i use the laundry mat is when one of my machines breaks down
How does the Speed Queen front load washer compare to the top loader?
I can't wait to try my speed queen out. I just bought the TR3 set, seeing as I'm single without any pets.
Sounds awesome, hope your new machine treats you well for a long time!
I am in 5 years now with a TR7 and the matching dryer.. no issues with it.. i will say that im thinking about getting a TC5 (or the commercial version) to have for my diesel engine clothes.. while ive domne well with getting the diesel clothes clean on the TR7 by using some dawn platinum in my wash.. and the "poor man's double wash - which is some soap in the fabric softener dispenser and the extra rinse selected" I do something think a real aggressive wash action might be better for those.. one thing to remember too is that SQ upped the wash action a bit from 2018 to 2019.. so those complaining about the 2018 TR series might find the 2019+ are somewhat better.. mine is a 2019 and works good.. also learn hopw to load it and set it.. just a;ways setting max water level in a TR is NOT the best way to clean.. ive found the Auto level to get clothes the cleanest.. my regular every day clothes set on auto, with light soil level and speed cycl;e get done in 30 minutes and are clean as can be.. the TR is much different than many are used to but for most families it will do a fine jon.. if you are getting a washer for a shop, business or a laundromat where people typically overload the machines.. I would stick with the old style transmission agitator machine.. I have had zero luck finding the vintage whirlpool washer id love to have as my second machine.. so i'll likely get a TC5 for my diesel clothes..
Never did I think I would pay the price of a Speed Queen for a washer. But from what I'm seeing, I should save money in the long run when it comes to repairs. Plus, my wife's 32 year old Kitchen Aid (that still runs, but is close to the end) has her spoiled when it comes to simplicity, and cleaning cloths. From my research I find the Speed Queen is simple, reliable, and will clean dirty cloths as well as her old Kitchen Aid. She has picked out the TC5, and we will order it this Saturday.
Blake, first thank you for the video, this is very good and accurate information. We've owned 2 sets of Speed Queen top load washers/dryers. We're a military family and the only reason we've sold the 2 sets were because we moved somewhere where we couldn't take them.
My question though is, how do the newer front load Speed Queens perform vs the traditional top load? Do the SQ front load get the smell issues and mildew build up that most of the other front load machines get? We are moving back to the US this summer from Europe and will be buying another set but debating between the simplicity of the traditional top load and the front load.
Also, since you are a repair tech, are there any other brands besides SQ that you recommend? SQ are some of the smallest capacity machines on the market today and we have a very large family. With our top load we do 2-3 loads everyday and it would be nice to have a larger capacity machine to cut that down to 1-2 loads. But we would never want to sacrifice the quality we've had with the SQ's. We average 18-21 loads a week and both sets were bullet proof (unlike a Samsung set we had before and 3 Bosch machines we've gone through so far in 3 years in Europe).
Just bought the T5. i still cant believe how great it is! it is so worth the extra cost.
That's great to hear, glad it's living up to the expectations. Thanks for watching!
They need to crank out larger capacity washers, especially of the tC5. The small capacity and lacking a dual action agitator is the only thing that has me on the fence of going the SQ route once my cheapie GE conks out.
Seems like they are just being honest with their customers. Check out the video they did on capacities.
@@pittmanx6 ehh no need. I have used speed queens before when I lived in an apartment complex 10 years ago. I hated having to wait in front of the washer whenever I washed my king comforter. Had to push it down under water because the agitator could not circulate. A slightly larger capacity would’ve helped mediate that, a dual action agitator would’ve completely solved it. Honestly the agitator doesn’t even need to be dual action, GE’s one piece heavy duty agitator actually does a great job circulating. All Speed Queen has to do is redesign the vanes to the upper half of the agitator so it does better moving things down. Zero complexity added
I think that the TC5000 (Classic) fills a really important niche in todays market. It is the perfect machine for some people, and for those people no other washer can come close. I really love Speed Queen's front load laundry and I personally feel like it's deeply underrepresented. I live in a Rural, Ag-dominated area and front-load Speed Queens are incredible for the farmers that are willing to use them.
That being said, imho Speed Queen has become pretty overrated. They are not the paragon of reliability that they think they are. In some ways they are just like the machines of 40 years ago, in some ways they are just like other modern machines. Their marketing is often deceptive, preying on people's nostalgia. They are not 100% made in the USA. They do use electronic controls (thank you for mentioning that Blake) from a foreign board partner. I appreciate the benefits from electronic controls over electromechanical solutions, but in my own experience, Speed Queen's electronic controls have mediocre reliability compared to their competition. In 2021 specifically, Speed Queen had the second highest rate of warranty service for me, and I did warranty work on a dozen brands (whirlpool/maytag/amana/etc = 1 brand). I guess you can stay profitable with long warranties and poor reliability if the upfront cost of the machine is high enough lol. I know that it was addressed a couple of years ago now, but the basket balancing ring used to disintegrate because it didn't fit in the basket properly because the manufacturing tolerances were too loose. I vividly remember conversations with customers who bought Speed Queens because the salesman said "they never break down," only to have their machine tear their clothes and dent their drywall from this recall issue.
Speed Queen may be the right laundry brand for some other service techs. LG has been the right brand for me.
I agree with what you're saying to a point, but would still buy another SQ. I bought a SQ TC5 classic, the circuit board needed to be replaced within one year, but was covered under warranty. I think they are overpriced, and they are only "as good" as a regular washing machine from 30+ years ago. They're not miraculous, they just wash laundry well, and should last 25 years. For me, it was a simple cost benefit analysis... buy one overpriced SQ that should last 25 years, or buy 4 inferior machines that will end up costing me more over that time period. I bought one hoping it will last like old appliances used to. Everyone else has gotten used to the new normal of buying new appliances every 8 years, but that is unacceptable to me. With planned obsolescence, every other brand is crap, so I guess SQ will do. I have not used LG washers, but I have had terrible experience with all of their other appliances. My house came with mostly LG appliances that are about 5-7 years old. The LG Linear Compressor fridge is trash, and the dishwasher has already needed all the major components replaced (under home warranty). The dishwasher does wash well, but my next one will be a Bosch/Miele purely for longevity.
@@FlufferNutterSandwich Speed Queen tells consumers to expect a 25 year life span. Certainly some of their machines will last that long. I am really skeptical that a majority of the SQ machines sold today will make it to 25. 25/8 is much closer to 3:1 than 4:1, but, of the consumers that will get 25 years from a SQ, I expect them to get 10+ years from even some of the basic Amana top loads. Reliability is one one of the factors keeping typical appliance turnover less than 10 years. Even if the appliance is fully functional, many modern consumers will choose to replace it in under 10 years because they want new colors or new features. I have great respect for the consumers that don't need a new-shiny toy periodically, and for them, SQ is more likely to be a good fit (particularly the TC5). The point is, even if reliability was the same, SQ might "outlive" other brands just because of consumer behavior.
I have a big granite slab that I beat my laundry against to clean it. It will outlive a Speed Queen by hundreds of years, but that doesn't make it a better washer ;)
I have used a SQ AWN412 as my shop washer, and I have loved it in that role. I do my personal laundry in an LG WM3555HWA and I wouldn't even consider replacing it with a top-load SQ when it dies some day.
This was a great breakdown of some important points, thanks for sharing!
I appreciate this perspective. Shame its not quite as reliable or sturdy as claimed but I dont think that will dissuade me because no other washer actually fills up with water or lets me saok or actually agitates.
I was once a huge Speed Queen stan, loving that I could control water level, temperatures, etc. with manual controls. We had the top-loading AWN432 washer and its matching dryer. The washer is wonderful - still have it in the garage - but the dryer had two heat sensor failures within only 4 years of use, so to the crusher it went. For this reason I wouldn’t buy SQ again. 😢. We instead bought the LG WM8900 front loading washer with dryer and so far they’ve been excellent.
The thermo fuse in our Speed Queen dryer has blown twice in 8 years. I keep a spare and can replace it in less than 10 minutes, they are cheap. It has never blown on me, but I always do full loads. It only blows on my wife's loads. I think it is because she does partial loads with lightweight materials and runs it too long.
Thank you for the detailed video!!
Glad to hear it was informative, thanks for watching!
Can you do a video on other appliances that are best and why?
They're on the list for sure! In the meantime, we do have this video where Blake recommends his favorite brand in each category: ua-cam.com/video/oC9PufP0UtI/v-deo.html
I have the front load sq it’s a built like a tank
Glad to hear that, we hope you love it!
I bought the t5 yesterday. 10 year warranty!!
Anytime I see any video on washers or dryers, I start to day dream about someday having a washer of my own 🤔❣️👀🤯 Sadly not Anytime soon 🥴😩
Hopefully you can make that dream come true some day!
Buy a used set from before 2018, they're much better than these, more options, much better flexibility. Also much cheaper. Win/Win
@muziklvr7776 Those are truly too new. A good set would need to be older than 30 to 40 years. Back then, they were made of quality materials. They were not made energy efficient, were water waisters, and not generally gentle on clothes. There are good things in the newer washer/dryer, at least at the one that I am looking at. Sadly, it seems like the most one can get is 10 years or 15 if you are lucky. The pair we have at our complex is about 14 years and is going strong, beyond the abuse of all the tenants.
Yeah, my condo has Speed Queen top load (never use) and front load (I do use) washers. I use the front load for large items that don't fit in my Gorenje in my own condo. The SQ front load washers are definitely not fancy and cleaning is not super even using the longest and hottest cycle. But to purchase one....no-they are too expensive for what you get-I can purchase a Bosch washer and heatpump dryer for the same price. Yes, a SQ may last forever, but that is like saying you want your AMC Pacer to last forever.
I was so excited to buy one.Got it home.Did three loads an oil all over my floor Now they think I'm gonna wait for a month for them to replace the tub.And transmission, because the manufacturer forgot to put the seal in. Personally, I'll never buy a new product from speed.Queen ever again and i'm gonna do my best to return this lemon
So sorry to hear that! That's definitely not typical of Speed Queen. Good luck with getting that resolved!
Have you heard of the tub bearing and lip seal problem I'm on my 2nd one in 10 years on my AWN432SP The main bearing where the tub sits on the transmission wears out and seal goes bad leaks. It's a poor design cost to pay someone to replace it is $600 I had to do it myself because talking about 2/3 the cost of a new one. 766p3a is the parts kit from Amazon.
I had to finally scrap my Amana from 1992 they were rusting out. I got my grandparents old machines and once those go getting some speed queens
Sounds like your Amana had a good life! Speed Queen is definitely not a bad way to go after that, thanks for watching!
It’s good no doubt about it, but when doing towels flint are all over the towels so I would be good if they have a flint filter
Can’t find them, dealers websites are awful, ready to buy but can’t find them😏
Does it have quick wash? If so how long is it? Thanks
Am considering buying the speed queen classic clean model. I like simple features. Was considering the tc7, but like the old fashioned look. Your thoughts. Price I am being quoted for the tc5 is $1229.
is that the same for their frontloaders?
What about the front loaders and also the capacity. I need to be able to wash king size bedding.
As bad I wanted a Speed Queen, the machines are just out of my budget currently. I went with a Maytag (Whirlpool) that I am happy with, but in the future I will be prepared to get a Speed Queen.
As a former maytag owner, you will start to notice strange noises and leaks underneath. then one day it will just croak with a tub full of water and clothes.
A longer warranty is also a paid "extended warranty." This will be a factor in the upfront cost of buying this brand vs what you might have been able to save/invest elsewhere.
"Best" is relative, especially when only considered repair rates or life expectencies. The logic here is that a washer that never needs repair is OK even if it uses more water than alternatives, because water is an infinite resource that will never run out.
Water, depending on your location, is FINITE NOT Infinite.
Agreed. "The logic here" = meaning, not *my* logic but rather, the logic that as presented in the video.
I dont care about water, I dont like being told to wash my clothes in a puddle and gaslit that its better and I'm happier for it. You wanna wear filthy clothes, by all means be my guest. Dont tell me I MUST adhere to your ideology , I won't do it. I now actually go out of my way to waste water specifically because of low flow bullshit being forced on me. Sometimes I just let the sprinkler run all day
@@evil1by1the low flow water people are the same ones who brag about how energy efficient and climate helpful the new appliances are yet don’t connect that the regulations have made machines last a fraction of the years they used to, leading to so many more appliances in landfills. Real planet friendly.
As I tell my customers, in 1980 people were happy to pay $400 for a washer. If you adjust that $400 for inflation, you're looking at about $1,200 which is the cost of a Speed Queen.
There are $400 and $500 machines on the market but how was that price held so low? Quality went out the window. Oddly, many think that $500 is too high for a washer but they'll spend $150 for a replica football jersey.
People are willing to pay $90,000 for a pick-up truck but balk at paying $1,200 for a washer that will last three times longer than they'll keep the truck.
looking for washer dryer to be used in an animal shelter. Any recommendations?
If you're looking for a nice deep clean, which you might want at an animal shelter, it's true that Speed Queen might be your route!
do you recommend with or without agitator? i know speed queen sells some without
We actually have a video all about that here, feel free to check it out!
ua-cam.com/video/_OwoQEl_ii0/v-deo.html
TC5 for the win
just purchased TR7, washcloths I use to remove makeup: no makeup is removed, NONE. I can't imagine what is wrong. Should I have purchased the TC5? Help! My plan is to build a home in the upcoming year. We will sow this new set into the buyers of this home. For the new build now I am wondering is the TC5 should be purchased. Will I have the same issue with it i am wondering. I switched to this after decades of the front loaders but I have to say with those I never had this issue. I understood the speed queen washed tons better than these kinds :( I'm so regretting my purchase.
Sorry to hear that! It's true that the TC7 is less aggressive on clothing than the TC5, but I'm surprised to hear it won't clean your washcloths. I can't say for sure if the TC5 will, but it is known to be more aggressive. Were any of your previous washers able to get the makeup off? If the soil is really that tough, you might just have to pre-treat them unfortunately. Thanks for watching!
@@BoulevardHome all machines I have had since I left home haha have without pre treating, I am now 52. I can tell I am getting a better wash in that the clothes feel better however this is a deal breaker :( I can't understand why its not taking care of this.
I had a Whirlpool duet front load washer that was awesome. It died after 15 years. Is there anything in today’s appliance market that is close to that old school whirlpool duet?
The closest you're going to get to those old school machines is definitely Speed Queen. The TC5 has been basically the same machine for over 30 years, and it works well!
Respectfully.... nobody gives you a warranty. You buy and pay for it. 🎉
That explains the extra $1000 they sell for in Canada.
That's great, but I would never buy a top loader; I've had nothing but front loaders for over twenty years and can't imagine going through all the water that a top loader uses.
I'm an old school guy and currently looking at purchasing one of these, but looking for advice on which model. I WANT reliability and at 49, want this to be my last washing machine purchase AND when I "kick the bucket", I want my kids to fight over the washer... hahaha
I like the old school knobs due to less electronics and don't really need all these fancy features... I'm a simple guy and all I want is clean clothes and move on.
I guess what I am asking is about the agitator... is it really a huge difference with the classic T5 that it will beat up my clothes over the T7?
Thanks for commenting! It really depends on what kind of clothes you have and how dirty they are getting. A lot of clothes these days are just like modern appliances... they don't make them like they used to. What I mean by that is some clothes are cheaply made and can wear out quickly with rough washers, but if you have really rugged durable clothing the TC5 is the way to go. Also just a heads up. Even though the old school knobs look mechanical, it is just a digital board behind these modern Speen Queen Units.
@@BoulevardHome Uhhhhhhhhh.... you're killing me 😂
So the knobs are to deceive us... lol.
Well I am a trades guy and my clothes do get dirty with traditional dirt from crawling around in crawl spaces, attics and mechanical rooms but at the end of the day, my wife and I wear more regular "cheap" clothes and I don't really mind the dirty work clothes.
That being said then, is the TR7 just as reliable as the TC5 and without the transmission, is this a plus, minus or moot?
I really do appreciate your channel and the fact that you personally responded, you ROCK!
@@twotone3426I’m currently shopping and trying to decide between the TC and TR. Store sold both and rep I spoke 5o has the TR in his home. He said that machine works great for them with normal to light soiled clothes (the worst being what you might get with yard work, no oil, etc.), but to go with the classic (TC) if you need a machine that will clean tougher stains. I’m going with the TR bec I don’t do more than yard work and I can always pretreat tough stains. Good luck!
Where can i find it😮
If you're in any of our areas, feel free to stop in at BlvdHome and we'll get you what you need! We have stores in Cedar City, UT, St. George Ut, Mesquite, NV, and Las Vegas, NV! If you're not near us, we'd encourage you to shop local. Good luck!
Do you recommend the classic vs the front loader?
Kenmore 80 series
YMMV, my TC5 blew a belt and or bearing in less than 10 months. We’ll see if my dealer will make good on this if they can ever get here. Id be interested to hear others that have had similar problems with this model in such a short time. Reddit is full of angry SP complainers but thats whats motivating me to write here, haha.
Oh no! We're so sorry to hear that. In our experience, that's definitely unusual for Speed Queen! However, even the best appliances will have their occasional fluke. Wishing you the best of luck with getting it sorted out!
Is it worth buying the speed Queen front loader washing machine?
I don't have one but they are in most of the laundramats in the US. I have the top loader
Not really. They cost 3 times price of an LG front loader (highest rated in cleaning and with great reliability) that contains no internal heater. Options are also extremely sparse. Build quality is good though.
Maytag Commercial done
I went to a store and they offer me speed queen LWN432SP115TW01. But when I go to official speed queen page I don't find this model. So, what the heck going on 🤔?
What store did you go to? It could be that the model is discontinued by Speed Queen but inventory of that model is still floating around.
@@BoulevardHome I live in Puerto Rico. But looks like they have plenty of them. Looks like they don’t bother to sell them even though the government regulations. Did you think it worth over the TC5?
Doordash too!
🤣better seals😂 as long as they don't forget to put it in 😅
Consumer Reports trashed the T7
Would the classic be ok if i have pets. Concern about fleas ?
Top loaders deal better with pet hair and the dirt they produce better than front loaders. Unfortunately , there's no lint filter in them like my old Maytag or the old GE filter Flo washers which filters out pet hair like nobody's business. Only purchase the TC5000 series washer , not the TR.
Electronic control yech.
I have a SQ 412AWN that I bought in 2012. Best washer I've ever owned. One of the blades on the agitator cracked, and we had to just saw it off and file it down smooth. Can the agitators be easily replaced? Thanks!
Yes it can.
Kenmore is the best
Too bad it doesn't exist anymore! We actually have a video all about Kenmore you can watch here if you'd like: ua-cam.com/video/WNqfbmzRaDw/v-deo.html
Are you allowed to say anything bad?
Speed Queen once and done --for at least twice as the other junk. And go for zero LED/Electronics.
Glad to know the flip phone folks have a washing machine option, too.
And it's far more reliable than your smart phone version plus it gets our clothes clean.
My Maytag washer and dryer are still going strong 49 years later. Try that with todays tech, including these Speed Queen washers that use sensitive Chinese control boards in order to function.
This thing is over engineered garbage. Needs to be recalled. had to be repaired over 7 time in 5 years. It is still under warranty . This is new repair list Horrible customer service.. I am not lying look at the repair list
Speed Queen Flat Rate
1 Warners Stellian
/REPAIR - On Site Diagnosis
1 Warners Stellian
/REPAIR - Reschedule
1 Speed Queen
203657P Non-Heater Control
1 Speed Queen
803415 Out of Balance Switch
1 Speed Queen
203968 Tub Cover
1 Speed Queen
719P3 Wash Tub
1 Speed Queen
39837 Balance Ring
Some people seem to be oblivious to one key deciding factor here, the price of the appliance. With all due respect, every American (obviously) doesn't have $1200 or more dollars to spend upfront on a washing machine. Now don't get me wrong, I completely understand why Speed Queen washing machines cost so much, it's because of them being built with commercial grade parts and complex machinery to get clothes thoroughly cleaned.
But here's the problem, if Speed Queen is supposed to be the leading laundry appliance brand when it comes to reliability, dependability, cleaning performance, and durability, then why aren't there flexible payment options? Yes, one could get a credit card, but then now your credit history comes into play, and that's a whole nother conversation altogether. There's no lease-to-own options that I'm aware of, and it seems that the ONLY option is to buy a Speed Queen washer or a whole set UPFRONT. The sad fact is that everybody doesn't have the financial prowess to be able to afford premium quality stuff. A washing machine brand like Speed Queen that has a remarkably reputable reputation of methodically producing commercial quality laundry machines should have more flexible payment options, otherwise many Americans will continue to have no choice but to buy the notoriously flimsy washing machines that's been produced by other companies for the past couple of decades. GE [General Electric] is a shining exception to this however, at least with the high end model that my family has had for four years and counting without a single issue, and it's been through some of the most rigorous and roughest wash loads that other high efficiency washing machines would instantly break at the seams trying to handle, plus it has a WARM RINSE option and a direct drive transmission on top of that, and the matching dryer runs like a dream. And the ONLY reason why we were able to get this high end washer and dryer set was because of having a lease-to-own payment option, and they're paid off now.
So what's the moral of the story here? It's simple, Speed Queen should at least have a lease-to-own payment option if they want their commercial quality washing machines to be more accessible to the public, otherwise they'll only be accessible to those who are wealthy with beefy bank accounts, case and point.
Why not just buy it? It is barely more than the average car payment
@@nsbioy Are you ok dude? I basically explained more than a month ago why simply " buying " a Speed Queen upfront is not a accessible option for many Americans, the upfront cost is just too high. Which is why more flexible payment options should at least be considered. Make any sense?
@@Enigmaculate Americans use credit cards and pay over time manufacturer-sponsored incentives, in this case those may be provided by the store the washers are sold at. Buying a used washer is also a good option. And do not buy a new car, "dude".
@@nsbioy You're missing one critical detail, you have to have good to excellent credit in order to get approved for a credit card the majority of the time. And the credit system is notoriously broken in America, it's geared more towards the wealthy to make a long and sordid story short. And as far as a used washing machine goes, there's risks that comes with that, it's obviously been used by previous owners (hence the word " used "), and you have no idea if the washer was disinfected, cleaned thoroughly, and if any repairs or replacements were made to any worn down parts, and I'm not just talking about cosmetic wear and tear, I'm talking about wear and tear to MAJOR components.
Also, stop comparing buying a washing to buying a car, there's a LOT more hoops to jump through when getting a car, and in the first place, when did I ever bring up buying a new or used car " DUDE "?
@@nsbioy And before you say anything else, I already said what I had to say more than a month ago, I'm not interested in getting into a heated discussion about this. We'll just have to agree to disagree from this point. It's nothing personal, I can just tell that you took offense to me calling you " dude " apparently in my second comment when I asked you " _Are you ok dude?_ ".
It was just a general question, I wasn't questioning your cognitive sufficiency or anything, it was simply just a succinct way of asking, " _Did you not thoroughly read what I had posted more than a month ago, did you just impatiently gloss over critical details I had pointed out?_ ". THAT'S what I was asking, nothing more, nothing less. Oh, and one more thing, comparing buying a washing machine to a car whether it's/they're new or used is a night and day comparison. Anyway, this conversation is over.
PEACE✌.