Logitech G27 Wheel Mod - How To Install Guide - Tutorial
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- Опубліковано 6 лип 2024
- Logitech G27 Wheel Mod - How To Install Guide + Tutorial
In this video I take you through how I modified my logitech G27, taking it from the standard 280mm wheel to a 340mm sparco wheel, including creating a button plate with new buttons, and extending the paddle shifters.
All mods are non destructive, and make returning the G27 to its original form quick and easy.
-No soldering onto the existing G27 pcb is required.
-No cutting of any existing G27 wiring is required.
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After all that hard work resulting in a quality build, you were then brutally honest about how good (or bad) the wheel was to actually use. Much kudos to you for telling it like it is, sir. I've just subscribed to your channel.
same, sub earned.
I love the editing man! And it makes me trust someone who can put like 20h into a project and at the end still say "nah, not quite what I need"
Awesome video, filming, editing and button murder !
Really good points about the larger wheel size with G25-G29 the motors in those wheels just don't have the power for larger and heaver rims.
As you probably know a knock off 300 / 280mm wheel you would never use in a real car from ebay might be a better option as it will be much lighter due to its cheaper construction , I have used a 270mm Formula rim on a G25 and that also felt fantastic.
I liked it. Your attitude is great. Despite the effort on making the mod, you were very honest about how the big wheel felt like.
Wow. Haven't seen a video as well made as this one in a while. Thoroughly enjoyed. Just subbed
Great video! Clear instructions! I run a 17" wheel on my g27 base. I run asphalt oval and it reduces my workload substantially when coupled with good caster, camber, steering ratio and steering offset. Though I know oval is a different beast, I highly recommend at least a 15" rim for oval racing!
That was brilliant. You're a bit handy at DIY!! The finished result looks really professional. Maybe you could reduce the degrees-of-rotation to speed up the steering? I've seen a couple of vids of ppl using larger rims on the G27. Now I know how they mod them. Protractors - genius ;P
Fuck sakes man, that's some quality right there. Very well and detailed explenation! Love that button layout
I'm sure people have commented this already, but the reduction in responsiveness that you are feeling with the larger wheel can be taken care of by increasing the sensitivity in the options to compensate.
thanks man! I was contemplating doing this myself, but after watching your video I think I'll just upgrade it instead
just go max 300mm and its fine :) I Got a 300MM QSP rim on and it feels amazing
Great self build wheel & button job & vid. Thx for the wheel size info...
Thumbs up for the honest review. Good job 👍
Fantastic video. I'm suprised by your conclusion!! I really appreciate the honesty. It goes a long way in life my friend. Thank you for the no bullshit ! You've gained a new subscriber.
Nicely done, good project and honest review. Rare these days.
ive had about 10 hours on the stock g27 and just switched to a 350mm momo wheel and it feels so much better than stock, i really like it
hows the motor handle the big wheel?I probably going to use the aftermarket wheel too.Just curious about the motor handling big wheels
I wish every how-to on UA-cam was as well made as this. Australian accent notwithstanding. :P
I subbed thanks for the help making me chose my wheel and upgradrs
Thanks so much for doing this experiment.
i did something similar with mine, i actually added more buttons by adding in a bridge or combo of buttons for a horn, i used a falcon wheel with stereo controls (havent utilised yet) but i hooked in the cruise control buttons and it works. Used for Truck sim (ats and ets)
The work you did looks pretty nice other than the big dollop of glue behind the shifters but that's life. Shame that it wasn't what you'd hoped in the end.
Good job, great instructional video, hot glue and protractors were a bit ugly but a good job overall and good information, cheers for sharing.
Great quality video. Keep it up
Wow but not everyone has ur skills bro. nice work!
Great video, amazing job, i have done a mod with a 320 mm very light and cheap whell and feels amazing, a lite bit less of feedback, but correct, i feel more presicion on the car. But i was looking for this mod, the button mod, becasue a don´t want to cut the original wheel and this is what i was looking for!!! great job nice video! Cheers
For the part where you said the larger wheel makes you turn more than the smaller wheel. On forza you can just turn your steering linearity up so you have more turn force with a lesser turn radius.
excellent video, and understand your conclusions about the wheel size, however, going to a larger wheel increases precision, as with the longer travel distance on the circle you can make finer inputs.. yes, it is slower, but that can be overcome through practice.. I don't run racing games, but rather drive Euro Truck Simulator and American Truck Simulator, and I replaced my G27 wheel with an 18 inch (457mm) Steering Creations, Inc. (SCI) wheel for a Peterbilt Semi-truck.. As I drive commercial trucks for a living, the first major advantage was sheer comfort, holding a wheel of the same size that I hold 10 hours a day, followed very closely by the increased precision necessary for tasks such as backing.. So, the trade off is precision versus speed, and I think you will adapt to the speed fairly quickly, and learn to love the increased precision the larger wheel gives you, especially in overtaking situations in traffic.. Also, a pro tip: don't hook your thumbs on the crossbars.. it's slower, reaction wise, and IRL is dangerous in the event that your tires hit something, as if the wheel snaps in one direction or the other, it will break your thumbs.. :o)
you make it look so easy
you sellin that Sparco steering wheel?
You haven't had enough likes for this comment. I get it :)
Great honest instructional/test plus rADELAIDE!
Great video. I went my self for a 320 mm wheel with the exact adapter you have, I also mounted the stock g27 buttons to it worked out fine, I haven't noticed any loss in FFB as my new wheel weighs about 100 grams more than the stock one. I got to say I am very satisfied with the mod, I can catch slides much better and drift much better overall very happy with it. I would advice to get a wheel that its not much heavier than the stock one, if one can find same weight or less even better.
Yeah, I would imagine that weight has a ton to do with the damping of the FFB, too. The MDF probably didn't help things.
I'm getting all the necessary stuff in order to mod my G27 also. May i ask which steering wheel did you purchase?
I just used a Chinese after market wheel. very cheap, You can get any wheel you like and don't mind those videos that show the Chinese wheel bend on real cars, to do that on a G27 you would break the wheel base before you bend the wheel, so in my opinion its no need to go spend 100s of dollars on expensive wheel just for sim racing unless u plan it to use it on ur real car in the future,
I have 3 different rims with the quick release. I have found that anything larger than 320mm will be to big for the motors. I have added a handbrake, a power increase mod, 2 button boxes, and numerous pedal mods for the g27. Great video, good luck on future mods.
Can you provide information about the power mod you say you have made? I have been thinking about doing an upgrade to the motors and maybe using some kind of speed controller to use brushless motors or maybe do some type of swap to direct drive servo motor, I just havent figured out how to do it completely yet. But I would love to hear or see what you have done and maybe some kind of information about the gain it has accomplished - Chris
Idk if it's just the accent but you kind of sound like one of the guys from Mighty Car Mods
Boosted Doge yeah it’s the aussie accent
its looking good
nice video, im trying to bid on a g27 right now I really hope I can get it for cheap
I did put a 330mm deep dish wheel on the G27, the idea was to drift. IT made the steering very light which made drifting easier but for racing it was horrible. After the slide phase of about 3 weeks it was reverted back to stock rim for more racing.
also for a better feel i added in two rubber gaskets the wheel is tighter to move but feels more realistic.
What size is that wiring pigtail you're using? 4 pin mini michro connector? but was size?
340 mm wheel is a little large I use to race sprint cars for a short period a long time ago and 340 mm is almost a 14 inch wheel I used a 12 inch wheel which is closer to 300mm. I know some guys liked the 14-15 inch wheels but like you said you had to turn your hands a lot more. The G27 wheel is a little small but still effective I would say if you want a bigger wheel you might as well save up for a more expensive wheel set like Feel VR which is a direct drive wheel.
Thanks for the details! I was considering this, but now I'm firmly sure that I won't be doing it. G920 FFB already feels pretty weak to me, so I wouldn't want to make it even less powerful and responsive.
Is there any disadvantage to removing the buttons on the wheel i.e useability issues/imcompatability
Hello it's possible have a name a wheel sparco use and a the measurements of the push-button door ?!? Thank
Both of your named issues can be easily fixed. You can always crank up force feedback in a game and concerning steering, you can change maximum steering lock in logitech software options. If you fiddle around with those two, I feel like you can go back to your original feeling or at least close to it.
old comment, but he already has FFB up all the way. you can see it clipping in his pedal window.
@@dizzy_ssbm old comment, but using an LUT file can make you go much stronger without clipping
I was afraid of the reduction in force. Thank you, very helpful video. Where did you get the momentary switches?
Thanks! I bought everything off ebay. Just search for 12mm momentary switches and multiple packs of 6 should come up.
g27 wheel weight is 800g anything more than that will have negative ffb effect
i had the same issue and instead i made my own wheel out of foamex with a cnc for euro truck simulator
the new wheel is around 650g with 37cm diameter and i can confirm ffb feels even better
i build sim hardware for a living ;)
Yup, people often forget that you cannot just put the biggest wheel on you can find. Also im sure the motors is going to break quicker because of the extra weight.
Do you know the weight of the g29’s rim? also do you have any recommendations about what rim should I get? Thanks
@@YMHM the G29 rim weight should not be much different to the G27 rim, give or take a few gramm. Probably lighter though because its all plastic and they scraped the metal.
Rule of thumb is though: If it works on a G27 it will work on a G29, because the wheels are identical hardware wise. (except for a hall sensor instead of a Potentiometer, which is kinda silly considering the dead center)
No, it's not just weight, but inertia. Any wheel with a larger diameter will have a negative effect on the FFB.
Where did you buy the jst cable, i don't found the same of you
I just modded mine with a variable voltage step up module and psu I had spare. Got 30v and 6 amps going to it. At least doubled the force of the FFB.
how much heavier it is compared to the g27 steering wheel and whether the steering wheel heats up quickly
Im bit late but would like to know what model is the sparco wheel.
I like your vide ,can you tell me the specificatio of the connectors?
Yes i have a wheel That big ✌️ no feedback at all 😁 100% is like 50% on the Standard wheel
Because torque :)
I also did this mod a few years ago with an OMP Superturismo 320mm and I have to agree the force feedback reduction is not really worth it. Looks way better though...
Since I do truck and farming sims more than sim racing, a wheel this large sounds right about perfect.
As u said after changing the wheel to a bigger diameter one, the response was bit lowered ryt, I think u wouldn’t have something as such on a direct wheel drive systems! Am i right? I don’t know whether that would be the case or not..
I did the mod of a sports wheel for my g25 and didn't like it for the same reasons. it didn't take long for the FF to fail completely after this mod, so it may have shortened it's life, or it may have just been near the end of it's life already. i didn't upgrade my G27's wheel for this reason when i did replace the G25. My G27 does have a brake spring upgrade for a stiffer brake feel.
Anyway we can get the source of all your supplies?
for the more effort required to turn the wheel can be fixed by you reducing the turning circle of the wheel from 900°
This
very very good
was that an original sparco rim? if so it will be pretty heavy im sure, compared to the cheap rip offs available on ebay, i am planning on installing a cheap deep dish rim which has maybe 2 inches extra diameter compared to a stock g920... and wouldnt turning the ffb up counter the drop you feel from going larger?.. your video has made me question whether i really want to do it though now XD had to rma my g920 creaky play in the wheel (im sure an easy repair but not without voiding warranty) and i have a replacement on the way, i believe i am 'allowed to do as you wish' (quoted from emails from logitech) with the old one.. which is going to be, modify the shit outa it. and keep the replacement for spares and repairs after warranty.
what about making the game think you have a larger steering angle? like the G920 is a 900 what if we change that to 1000?
I'm a Rally fan and know for sure that they use around 330 - 350 mm wheels, drifters also use ~320 mm afaik
Where i can buy those buttons and wiring?
Loving my 480mm wheel from a truck (running ETS2 everyday) Got over 3000 hours in that game ;)
Did you install a wheel from a real truck or just a random wheel of that size. I play only ETS2 and games like it, and I thought of putting a truck wheel on my g29 but I am concerned that it would be too heavy for it
Anyone can tell me what is the exact size of the original wheel bolts (6 pieces), and the new wheel bolt size (6 pieces)?
Hey man, I know this video is a couple of years old now but I can't help but comment... did you reduce the degrees of rotation when moving to a bigger wheel? I mean, using different size wheel with the same settings will obviously make it feel wrong and by increasing the diameter of the wheel, you'd naturally have to reduce the degrees of rotation to give it the same responsiveness as a small wheel. Anyway, just seeing if you ever did that and if it made it feel better? I'm planning to do the same sort of thing... to be fair, I use mine more for drifting on asseto corsa and forza, so the bigger wheel seems appealing! Other than that, top notch video dude.
yay
Great video! I ordered a 350mm wheel for my g29. Im curious about how it will be.
How was it?
It WAS awesome. Still have that same wheel. except its on my T300RS now. Sold my g29 earlier this year 😁
@@atm31ac21 How did you find the force feedback with the larger wheel? Was it bad or good or the same?
Hi, I'm a racing enthusiast .... I just got a logitech g29 steering wheel I noticed that for me the steering wheel is too small and I would like to buy a mod of a steering wheel (wheel) larger in size .... I don't know where to buy it ... I tried on 3drap but they are all from formula1 ... Please let me know where the steering wheel mods and also the hub to install the steering wheel are sold? thanks! Hello!
Nice video, I'm making an f1 steering wheel. Where did you get the cabling from?
eBay! Just search for "20 SETS Mini Micro JST 2.0 PH 4-Pin Connector plug with Wires Cables 300MM"
Thanks for the fast reaction!
Right, so just leave the standard wheel on there. Thanks mate!
Where can i buy this wheel ?
Hi, your FFB and Response problem eith your new wheel can be fixed really easy, you just have to change the power bank to another with 24v 6A, that will improve the experience with your DIY wheel by giving the motors more power and a quicker response
Old comment but seeing this now, I'm hoping my beefy power supply and some lut mods allow for that extra power needed for the new wheel.
How to set settings logitech g27 on car games and set the dead point to control the torch realistically
hmm, on the G25, the screws are self tapping. I guess they cheaped on them this time around.
However, I went to a 33cm and love it personally. In fact, i've built myself a flat one from carbon i had someone cut with CNC. I used an after market cheap one (which is already light with about 1kg) before in hopes the weight wouldnt be much of an issue. But it was. The carbon weighs about >400g all done. Recently made a smaller diameter (29cm) for openwheel cars. This one, i've cut from wood too, and in the shape of the AMG GT3. I dont drive OW much so didnt want to spend on carbon. Maybe one day when i've figured out all the layout as you cant really cut carbon as easily at home like other materials. Eventually i wanna put rotary switches and all this stuff on it.
How many cm is often the wood?!?
For my g27 i bought 32cm and i think is the best size of wheel for pc racing :)
How was it?
787b, good lad
I use bigger custom g27 and I have to admit that it is actually less responsive and you have to move your hands more, but because I use it mainly for drifting it feels easier and more natural with those bigger moves. And one thing to notice is that with the bigger wheel forces are weeker due to bigger diameter.
Still I don't regret it and because my custom is made of alcantara it looks much better.
Wojtgaw... Do you think the weaker force feedback is due to the weight rather than the bigger diameter of the wheel. As im thinking of doing this mod But don't really want to lose any force feedback as im only using it on gt5 for ps3 and its not got the best force feedback as it is. Do you know if your wheel weighs more than the stock one?
@@realtalk9195 I didn't think of it as it's heavier but it might. I don't know if it's heavier but I don't think so and if it is, not much. I didn't find their weights online and because it's bolted to the wheel I'm not really keen on taking it off to weight these couple of grams. Sorry, but I still think it's due to diameter but of course the lighter wheel you peek the smaller it will affect the forces :)
Wojtgaw.... Cheers mate Yh its not worth taking it off to check for the sake of a few grams lol. Think im going to leave myn stock then as don't want to make the response time worse an the ff in any way really. Do u use it for PC or PS3 as iv made a sick handbrake with no plug as u obviously cant plug a handbrake into a ps3
@@realtalk9195 I use it with pc. Assetto Corsa and Forza all the time! :D I made my own handbrake by soldering cables to one of many g27's shifters' buttons and the other side to an old joystick. It's not linear so it's always locked or unlocked but works great for drifting and was pretty much free. Downside is that it's not detachable but for my uses it's enough :)
What size are the mini micro 4 pin connector? 2.0? Thanks!
Yeah, I just bought the "20 SETS Mini Micro JST 2.0 PH 4-Pin Connector plug with Wires Cables 300MM" off ebay.
why dont just increase the force via software?
Hey man, can you share your g27 settings?
Hey mate, I have not touched my gear for over 2 years so I'm not even sure if the settings/programs are the same currently - my G27 settings for AC - imgur.com/dKLz7pu
U can put real life car wheel like Honda Accord steering wheel to g27
Yes, but not using the steps and instructions shown in this video.
I know this is an old comment, but...
I would be worried about the bearings in the base as the Accord wheel is probably much much heavier. Could you do it? Of course. Is it a good idea? Probably not.
How's the G29 motor handle the 14" wheel?
If it's more or less the same weight, there should be no difference
Which wheel is better for raiding?
I knew I’d eventually get a comment like this.
stock wheel feels small but the deadzone will be way to big on a 30cm wheel tbh
Then adjust the dead one to 0 in the settings
amstudio?
Hey can i connect my custom bmw steering wheel with logitech g27 pc.
You can do whatever you like
Великолепно 👏
what game is it?
You're like Chilcoke, except you talk :D
And he doesn't bait people
When you Change the steering wheel you loose alot of force feedback
This is working with g25 ?
yeah
300mm wheel it is then.
Can i swap wheel without attaching these 6 buttons?
Yes.
@@LetsTestDrive thx
Aaaaaaaaawesome!
Alternative title: how to make logitech wheel thrusmaster
30cm max !
32 tip top
Lemme buy it? Seriously tho can I pay you for another one??
i think 300/320mm wheel is the maximum size you should put on a G25/G27, 340/350mm is too big
you know what's EVEN quicker than the G27's steering wheel?
joysticks !
if travel distance is really what you care about, don't even use a wheel :P
My lap times have increased significantly from just having a wheel a few days ....a controller is not quicker and also less accurate