The Smiths - This charming man (Johnny Marr's layered guitars)
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Johnny Marr's multitrack guitar parts -
I remember reading an interview quote from Johnny Marr talking about how many of guitar parts he actually put down and recorded on 'this charming man'
I think he said he layered about 15 tracks down, which I was surprised by because at most I could only think of 2 or 3.
So I listened to some isolated parts of the master recording that are on the internet. he's what I can hear so I've played them and put them together to see how they sound not fully hidden in the mix.
1. The main riff
2. Riff double tracked
3. 12 string open ringing chords
4. Acoustic rhythm part
5. Acoustic doubling up with the electric on the Chorus
6. 12 string high octave parts for the chorus
7. Ringing out tremelo/rotary cabinet chord for the chorus
8. 4 harmonic notes also on the chorus.
9. A backward guitar part with loads of reverb/sustain/feedback that plays throughout but is only noticeable before the start of the verses
10. And I had to put Andy Rourkes bass part on as well, because it's so good to play
I'm missing 5 tracks but thats as close as I can get.
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This is excellent…👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾. It does make you realise how brilliant and wonderful these guitar parts are from Marr…. Inspired song writing.
Ahh thank you. Going from his interview I'm shy a few more guitar tracks, possible an acoustic in a nashville tuning? But I can't hear anything else by ear. But yeah he's truly a genius live and studio wise
You had me at one guitar track. This is superb. It’s really cool that you put the effort into studying this. Your comment on why you brought in Andy’s bass made me chuckle. Again, this was really well done.
Ahhhh thanks It was alot of editing to get through to say the least, I recorded the first couple of tracks in a blaze of fresh energy at the time. I sort of didn't realise what I was getting myself in for, really made me think wow...Johnny Marr puts alot of thought into the entire eq range 😅
Wow love this jangly guitar sound ❤🎸 it's amazing!! You've really nailed it. Fabulous 👌 👏👏👏
Excellent. Amazing how many guitar parts are involved. It’s a brilliant bass line from Andy Rourke too.
I've probably missed a couple as well
@phil8528 no doubt, just unreal bass lines
Nailed it! Excellent job!
Thank you! Cheers!
This is excellent. Marr also described doing something by hitting the strings with a knife ( I assume the back, non-sharp side). He didn't fully elaborate on it, but it sounded like it was a bit of randomness and dynamics.
I didn't tune to an open tuning.
But I did hit a chord, let it ring out.
Then put a backwards effect on it.
I've got it going on throughout the song but mix it in at the end of verses and choruses I think. Can't remember now haha but yeah, wasn't willing to drop an item on my guitars from a height haha
Nicely done! How certain are you the bass player used a capo on the recording? I've seen people play this both with and without a capo. Thanks!
I've seen some live performances without a capo, they're all from the 80s. Johnny said he tuned everything up to F#
I just didn't want to risk the tension on my neck. Especially the bass the tension from strings would've been super strong
@@duriebrorosler4833 Makes sense. Thanks!
Such a cool riff
He's got soo many
man, amazing job!
Ahhh thanks, it was fun to play.
durie - great layes of guitars (and cool guitars) on your instrumental cover! like # 5
Ahh thanks pal
Can you please do stop me if you think you've heard this one before please? This was incredible, thank you so much
Ahhh that's a good one, I mean they're all good for me haha. Noted 👍
stones throw sticker on the bass nice
This isn't actually my bass, but I'll let the owner know his bass gets alot of comments
amazing work :D
Thank you so much 😀
great job!
Ahh thanks
Do you have tabs for these? I’d love the chorus and background parts
Ahhh I'm afraid I don't, I just figured the parts out at the time. I learn most things by ear and watching live versions for comparison. I'm sure they'll be tabs for the telecaster parts somewhere, the 12 string parts are octave notes on the chorus to my ear.
It's a wonder he can play anything live, having only pair of hands and all!
Yeah needs a couple of guitarists live, just him back in the 80s though.
Him and Morrisey both have loads of people on stage nowadays.
Hi, I'm Alison and I am learning to sing. I'm just asking if I can have permission to download this song you have played and use it as a backing track to my singing. I don't make any money from my videos as it all just a learning process for me. I would appreciate a reply and I would also state that you played the guitar and I would put a link to the original video, if permission is granted.
Hey of course no problem at all.
Appreciate you asking that's very thoughtful but yeah absolutely no problem 👍
Have fun singing and learning x
@@duriebrorosler4833 Thank you.
Muito bom!!!
Thanks
I wonder how many parts were played by John Porter
I'm not sure if he did on this track, I think I read in an interview he was more prominent helping Marr out from the end of 84 onwards. Think this was 83?
Who knows he well could of though. To be a fly on the wall in that studio back then
Nice one, keep it up!
Ahh thanks so much. Very kind of you to say 👍
Everton against Tories❤ Love it!!!
Ahhh thanks
Just realised this isn't your youtube name and you're talking about the badge on the bass! Haha
It's not officially my bass but my friends but I'll let him know it was noticed 👍
Really pretty
Thanks 👍
For one layer he dropped knives onto the guitar strings
Yeah I read that. I overdubbed some feedback and kept it going through the track, put a backwards effect on. But wasn't willing to drop a Stanley knife from a height on my of my guitars 😂
Some speculation it was the inspiration for Knives Out by Radiohead
Nice jangly guitars especially from my Telecaster😂 👍👍👍✌😎✌
Nothing beats my Telecaster, so versatile 🤣
Everton!
Hahah not my bass I'm afraid! Good spot
Try another mix. Everything is just too loud. I can’t barely listen the bass line.
What a gay the bass man, a real bass man does not use the capo
Hahahahahaha