Apple iMac G5 Won't Boot (Cheap eBay Find) - Krazy Ken's Tech Misadventures
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- Опубліковано 3 лип 2019
- Krazy Ken snagged this iMac G5 from eBay, but it won't boot. Today, he tries to fix it, but The Curse has other plans. Also, thanks to Greg Hrutkay, Jay from House of Moth, and Michael Stanhope. Check out the iMac G5 prototype below…
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Krazy Ken's Tech Misadventures - Apple iMac G5 Won't Boot (Cheap eBay Find)
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I had that problem with the dvd drive
I do have an airport card a available, taken from working g5 and switched to ethernet, selling for £5 ($7 approx and not including posting fees) so not sure if u want it but tell me if you do.
Did you tell the seller that you fixed/didn't, if so what did they say.
sorry to bother but do you have a copy of any ppc os? i couldn´t find them anywhere i´m stuck with the same problem
Great video, love these old Mac videos, they where so easy to work on.
HELLO HUGH
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Ohai, Hugh!
@@ComputerClan lol a year later :D
"Got the light, got the bong."
Got the weed
A fine mac, you got a bong, you're gonna be fine
Vedant Ganesh if you get beeps, you are in trouble
Bjhh
Probably explains why the crack marketing team brought the bong back
Yeah put an Airport card in it, replace that cap, replace the thermal compound and clean the heatsink
Yep, and do that for the GPU as well as the CPU. I have one of these machines and it seems to have suffered GPU heat damage.
yea.. looking at that bulging cap i got so worried
Can't do that with a current Mac anymore... I used to kinda like old Apple products but now it's going towards stupidity
@@user-jt1tp1jh9o I thought they've been that way for years, modern Apple I mean.
@@user-jt1tp1jh9o you cant open up a mac anymore??
I'd bet they were using that machine to deploy OS 10.5 Intel on newer machines through target disk mode which is why it was formatted the way it was, or it was in an Intel iMac and the hard drive died and nobody bothered with it because they didn't realize they had to redo the hard drive to boot on PPC. Those never came with a 500gb hard drive.
Mike's Mac Shack Yeah I think you're almost definitely correct.
Mike's Mac Shack which video of yours feature that prototype ken mentioned?
Ken: "How are you guys doing today?"
Some people watching Ken: "bad I broke up with my GF
Ken: "Really? That's just great!"
If she left you that easily she didn't love you in the first place
savio barbar who hurt you man?
@@user-noobmaster you don’t know why she left hom
No joke, the whole "create a partition and use target disk mode" trick was what I did with my recently acquired Power Mac G4 tower. DVD drive didn't like my Tiger disc, so I used my Powerbook G4 (which had it's own installation hell for leopard, since the superdrive in it was dead (lol)) to act as a source for the tiger install dmg.
It worked. :D
I did kinda the same with my iMac G5 17" and my 20" Intel iMac Early 2006, the G5 had a dead optical drive so I restored a Leopard install image on a partition of the G5 on TGM using the iMac 20" 😂
It worked too
Yep same here except I didn’t restore a dvd to the drive and then install it I just threw my Powermac G4 into target disc mode and restored my tiger partition from my iBook to the powermac
@@MrPufins haha nice!
@@antares2323 Just now saw this -- That's basically what I did with the PowerBook G4 to get it going originally. Made a partition on it for leopard and put the install files on that, then once leopard was installed nuked that.
Did that, however, with an external drive thing we had at work which I had a chance to borrow -- bought some Firewire cables which came in handy for the G4 tower a few weeks later when I got it.
Funny how we all find solutions to our systems quirks. I think it's why I like the vintage mac community, we're oddly resourceful!
Check the caps even when they look fine they can still be bad especially rot caps of the early to mid 2000s.
I had one of these given to me where the bulge was actually pushing the case apart. Still ran though, but would shut down after 30 mins.
Ken: How ya doing?
Me: Bad, Can't sleep
Ken: Really? That's great
Me:
Overused (For me)
Me: kay
LOL
That beautiful thin enclosure will run you $999, thank you very much!
I’d never see an iMac G5 disassembled before. When you popped the back panel off in on piece, I audibly said “What!?” I just finished upgrading my 2009 iMac to an SSD. What a nightmare…
I love it when a super frustrating problem ends up having a simple but not so obvious fix. I know that feel when the CD finally ejected.
I wrote tbxi boot files for OpenFirmware in the past, actually run OpenBSD on my iMac G3. U can even do art for them. If you ever wanna run anything crazy on your ppcmacs permanently. hmu
Ok just gonna say it. These videos are perfect. Not too much talking, right to the point, good important but short information. Very nicely done mate.
Thank you : )
I bought one back in 2015 fully working for $30. But a mouth later the capacitors blew and when we replaced all the capacitors on the motherboard, the new ones blew so we sold it for parts or not working for $35 and basically made 5 dollars 👌
lol
should've gotten actually quality caps
@@TorutheRedFox hey again
Awesome I really love the nostalgia with these older machines and love the older versions of Mac OS ! I also was soo excited for every new release of Mac OS all those years ago ! Of course I still am but it’s no where near the same excitement ! Keep up the awesome work !
Before my old G4’s died.
I had to borrow a black MacBook to format one of them.
I had to throw the Black MacBook into target disc mode and use the G4 to set up, didn’t know you could do it the other way round.
TDM is just one of my favorite features in any kind of electronic ever. Really wish it was on more stuff.
From what I remember, these old Macs actually do have a manual eject mechanism on the optical drive. You're supposed to put the paper clip into one of the edges of the slot which presses a switch and pushes the disk out.
My computer has that as well
13:29 That firewire logo is just peaking in.
XD
I'm guessing they put a hard drive from an Intel machine into the G5, and since it was GPT it wouldn't boot, and since the optical drive seemed dead they couldn't reinstall it. This thing has definitely been violated, I think these had a cover over the hard drive, and I don't think apple would have random taped up wires stringing across...
They have a hard drive bracket.
„20 minutes to 5 Businessdays“ 😂
There's a missing screw at the top of the optical drive mount, which is likely why it was loose and will become loose again.
Congrats!! This was really cool to watch.
10.4 runs better on those. 10.5 is a bit too much for a mac with only 2GB of RAM. Keep that for the dual G5 towers in the future, put 10.4 on this thing.
that capacitor is extra power delivery for the RAM slots, you're going to want to get that redone, and replace all the caps while you're in there. not a hard job, and if you get POLYMER CAPS as replacements you shouldn't ever have another cap issue with them for a very long time. those macs suffer from cap plague just like the Dells of the time.
do you have a copy of tiger man?
Or just a G5 tower with One CPU would be enough for Leopard as long as you have at least 4Gb of RAM.
Sincerely, a guy who runs Leopard on a 1.8Ghz G5 tower with 6Gb of Ram and a crappt fx 5200
Leopard runs okay on my powerbook g4 with 2gb of ram. Tiger is definitely a better option though(although dual booting is preferred as you can use either)
Leopard run Fine on my iBook G4 that has 1.2 GHz G4 with 512 MB of Ram
I have a Intel Imac, but I bought it for like $60 working. I also bought an Intel based mac mini that was not working, but the intel 82801 was defective. It was not letting the hard drive or dvd rom communicate, so I bought a supposedly new old stock 82801 that was preballed from Korea for like $8. It was a pain to get the old one off the board with just a heat gun, but I did get it off. Then came the fun part installing it, and in the oven it went.
I had to set my oven to 420 F and used some screws to hold the board in the air inside a glass dish, I did remove the only electrolytic cap that was on the board. Then had to let it bake for about 20 minutes until I could tell it had flowed and the chip settled properly. I pulled it out and let it cool, then replaced the cap and reassembled it, powered it on after changing the processor to an upgraded version, then updated the firmware and installed 4 gb of ram, added an ssd and it worked and still works with no problems.
I had gotten it for like $30 with free shipping originally and it was a cheap repair I also got a 110 watt psu for like $10 shipped. I guess most of the core 2 duo mac mini's won't recognize 4 gb of ram it is ddr2 667. But mine was originally a 1.83 and I switched it to a 2.0 ghz. I have 10.7.2 installed, but can' t install mountain lion or higher.
My laptop (not a MacBook) is actually does that fan blasting thing too when already turn on for several minutes lol
I remember the old trick of "holding down" the mouse button on boot and it will force eject on the CD drive.
'go for a jog with a coffee'
lolololol
xD
ERM WHAT DID I JUST SEE FROM MY OLD COMMENTS I’M CRYING
good vid as always, ken ^^
I'm stuck with an iMac G5 that only lights up the 2nd diagnostic LED when the power button is pressed without it turning the 1st off
it's probably something to do with something rattling inside the PSU and it missing a half of its parts, but idk if it should get stuck in a half-standby, half-on state though
Amazing video again - love these Mac history content videos - very sad you were put though the mess of a non-bootable Mac.
That acapella version of Exodus Honey was very nice, you should consider making more acapellas of Mac OS X intro songs
I got a fully working one in great shape for just €25,- !
Caps all still looking fine and it is soooo fast on 10.4
This is my first iMac I found at a flea market with the original (seen better days but still sturdy) and the computer itself works for $75. I want to do upgrades and keep it. And recently got mid 2010 iMac from a neighbor that was moving and was throwing out said screen didn’t work. Power cable, mouse & 2 wireless keyboards. Powers on just doesn’t boot up. Found to be faulty drive! So get free iMac!
“chicago, city of onions...or something”
This was a Triumph, I'm making a note here huge success
Portal reference
its hard to overstate my statisfaction
Check the capacitors, they were known to be leaky. I bought one from eBay at $20 cuz it couldn’t go to sleep mode and when I opened it up, the capacitors were leaky as hell with rust
Nice score! The cap on the lower right corner in 22:40 looks a little round on the top
adb 23:15 yeah it is
the right capacitor on the bottom right looks bad ? is it , btw , the optical drive does use an emergancy hole , but in order to reach it you have to take out the drive for that , also it seems that the HDD caddy is missing ,
Quiet an adventure. I love these old Macs. Got a eMac which was my first Mac, two white Macbooks
7:40 I know the pain, I too had an Iomega flask drive and it’s hard drive died.😢
Love this video! My iMac G5 throws a drive error. How do I replace that?
Ken: boots up Mac G5 to boot picker. Mac G5: *jet engine revving up*
Wish I had a G5, fastest pre-Mactel era Mac I had was probably my eMac. Still got it in my wardrobe, maybe I should dig it out and see if it still works...
Hi! Actually, you're not missing much performance between a eMac and an iMac G5. The G5 was not that much more faster than the G4. Where you start to see a difference is with a dual or quad G5 tower.
The thing is early g5 iMacs where hardly any faster then the eMac it later replaced. Yet the G5 always ran very hot thus these things easily overheats.
no joke I think this is the most successful kktm video ever
This mac needs hdd indicator leds and activity indicator light for the optical drive
My 2010 iMac has the same fan problem where it’s loud often when I plug a keyboard in, but eventually it goes away after I’ve booted the computer and played games on it for around 15 mins. It’s not too annoying, but yeah.
The amount of times I've heard the Mac dong today made me so happy.
Great video. Ended watching it all, even if it would not help me with my current problem. I was given one G5 equal to this one with a problem (or several?). The screen is freaking blackish, almost can't see the letters in it. Also, it doesnt boot. It shows the Apple, and then an error box shows telling me to restart. Any ideias?
I don't have OS disks (nor I know where to download one). I've thought it could be nice to have a linux running in it but it can't boot from the pen drive no matter what I try. -.-
Not a fan of the swearing but really enjoyed watching you debug the issue and get closer to the solution.
I got a G5 for $20, I thought it was as broken because it would show the no hard drive symbol, but then once I left it on it boots o I have to just leave it on for a bit every time I want to use it.
Hey tx for this. I have a pc power imac early 2006 and it won't start any ideas about how to fix it? I have the original cd installer.
I believe I may still have the airport card from when I tore down my PowerMac G5. Hopefully, I can find it and share a part number or anything else if you need.
I miss the old OSX UI, it’s just so beautiful
What if someone took System 1.0 and put it on an optical disk? Could later systems run it?
I found one of these in the dump a year ago with a 2TB HDD in it... still use the HDD in my main PC.
lucky
But did you dump the computer again? That's really wrong. I understand your excitement over finding such a beefy harddisk on such an old machine, but no doubt you could have salvaged more stuff from that.
@@BilisNegra I still have the computer in my mac collection. I just replaced the HDD with an different one (80GB)
@@MD-vk3bj Honestly happy to hear that!
I found one that was half gutted
i have a g5 desktop but if i install anything more than stock panther even an update it will go into permanent sleep loop as soon as the os starts works with panther or lower
I have a 2013 MacBook Pro that I can’t seem to get to upgrade to Sierra. It gets stuck in the Apple logo and progress bar. Will doing target disk mood work to try to install it?
I hope sometime you can do a video on the first kind of aluminum intel iMac! I recently got ahold of one of those models and I feel like they are the final crossroads between the iMac G5/ iMac G6 (White Intel) models and the later models from 2009 and onwards.
You guys deserve way more attention
Wow this was cool. I'm kinda nostalgic for these because my grandma had one that I used to play games on lol.
These G5's can have the screen rewired for HDMI and a custom backlight circuit made. Can essentially make it into a Hackintosh with an Intel NUC. I got almost done with mine, but I had life stuff come up. Mine has been taken apart, unfinished, under a bed for a few years now. RIP
Hey Ken! Wonder why does the iMac sound like it's going to blast off? The explanation is below.
Ian (Druaga1) installed an SSD on his iMac G5 on one of his older videos, if you have watched it. At 21:53 on your video, you can see that the plastic cap that sits on top of the 2 fans between the optical drive and the hard drive is missing. I don't know if that's a big deal, but it might act as a noise dampener (again, not an expert on Apple computers). Also, according to him, the hard drive bracket (it's metal and it goes around the drive) has a cable attached to it. If this is disconnected or damaged, the system does not get any data about the temperature, thus increasing the speed of the fans to the maximum for safety.
You should check the bracket and the cable to see any signs of physical damage, if the noise from the fans annoys you.
Its because the temperature sensor for the HDD isn't present on the SSD, so the fan goes nuts (afaik)
It's great to see the G5, a much under rated mac (due to the failure rate, caused by the bad caps) I've the 20" 2.0 ghz version, which was a hand me down for a relative. I've indeed had my own miss adventures with it. Mine was unlucky enough to suffer from a bad cap syndrome, where it limped along for ages, sometimes working and then mostly not, where you would try and in vane look at ways of starting it up without it going mental, and trying to blow the wall down. Eventually though the bad caps were too much, and she died, bad times. So Ebay called and a new G5 board was ordered, and it took a while but when it came i installed it. i'd probably installed it the worst way, with the wrong tools and no real skill or talent. However, when started, she lived and is still fighting fit to this day. Anyway i hope yours bring you some enjoyment, in a way most new Macs don't really do as well.
Congrats!
Apple used to refer to the process of setting a boot volume (or System Folder in the pre-Mac OS X days) “blessing.” In older Mac operating systems, all you had to do was drag the Finder and the System suitcase inside the same folder, and its icon would immediately change to a picture of the original Mac-it would become “blessed.”
There’s still a _bless_ command in macOS. Do a “man bless” in Terminal.
P.S. Indeed, the Mac will eject a disc from the optical drive if you hold down the mouse button upon startup.
I love the look of these Imacs!
I do too!~
oh man, if only Apple do the same opening for the next gen iMac, how easy and practical that was.
I'm glad you spotted that bulging cap.
Missing the hard drive plate and that airport antenna is not routed right.
I absolutely love these videos
Thank you : )
I also never have luck with the restoration function of Disk Utility. If something works with that feature I’m always so happy.😂
Would it be possible for your to upload an iso of your Lepoard disc? I need it for my ibook g4 and the image i've found isn't bootable.
Help How do i connect my G5 to internet wirelessly. And can i use it as an extended display?
Can this be upgraded enough to use in 2021 as on the internet?
You sound like a tech version of Bobby Duke Arts and honestly I'm all here for it
God, we had these in the elementary school I went to. This is nostalgia for me lol.
I got a perfectly working G5 last week but it's running Leopard🥺 I'm tryna find a way to bring it back to Panther but the previous owner lost the software CDs
The start up chime was fine, all it does is indicate that hardware components (e.g. Motherboard, graphics, ram etc.) are found and responding. It doesn't confirm that an OS is found though. If there was anything wrong it would have been a very different chime, various chimes indicate problems with different components.
Nice , time to watch this!
Yay~
I hold command+E when booting a G5 Mac to get the optical drive to eject at boot. Also, I believe you could use a USB optical drive in place of the built-in one. Pretty sure I made that work once.
You didn’t watch the whole video, did you?
I always thought the light on the front was the power button, little did i realize that it was on the back
where did you get that wallpaper?i want it...
these things are so loud and the fans go like crazy constantly get they still get so hot the logic boards fry themselves. The only G5 I've got is fried and will no longer display video at all, but can still be accessed by another computer
I’ve the same type of iMac G5 (though mine was free), it had an odd issue in that it would power on just fine but with no display, but lay it flat on its back and the display was fine.
Opened it up and out fell a screw… Looked over the whole system but found nowhere for it to go. Checked caps while back was off (all good) and over the last few days I’ve been configuring it with Sorbet Leopard, Final Cut Studio, a FireWire RAID box I have and going to use it as a retro video editing platform (and you thought you were krazy!)
Ken: okay lets start this up
Computer: You seem sweaty, lemme turn on my AC mode rq
What release year for the iMac? 2008?
I have one of these imac g5 s and the caps are leaking but it still works.
13:47 here is the problem! "Partition Map Scheme: GUID Partition Table" OMG that was the _only_ issue with the machine! :D I looked up the iMac G5 latest model with ambient light sensor, it came with 250GB max. Surely the previous owner gave it to someone to upgrade that Hard disk (stripped screws) which was likely preformatted as GPT or even MBR when bought and they didn't understand the installer error you saw, they tried "restore" hoping this means restore the system. But it all failed because PowerPC macs only boot Apple Partition Map (APM) otherwise they would have booted into the installer at least. Maybe the optical drive did actually work while doing the upgrade because it could have gotten lose in transit when you bought it.
Does anyone know what the long beep at 4:54 means and how you trigger it?
Wow that's not bad to take apart, for some reason the first 17 inch Core Duos are nightmare to take apart, lots of plastic clips, bezels, ribbon cables getting pinched, why couldn't they just design a different board?
Hey ! Great vid. I did service that model on ASP a long time ago. Just a little trick, no need to go to openfirmware for ejecting the disc. Just boot the computer with the click of the mouse pressed ✌
Chears !
What did you do for this open firmware boot? Hold down the power button for 10 seconds?
Command+Option+O+F
I got an ad for a burrito right before the video started. now im hungry.
I got given a 2012 macbook pro and taking out the disc drive cleaning it and putting it back in worked
I have a G5 with the back ports horizontal. it’s so old safari doesn’t work anymore. The chip will only let me USB upgrade Apple firmware 10.5.8. I put a win7 HDD inside and it’s working fine. I put a Linux HDD inside and it gets stuck on the RAM check (insufficient RAM) on first boot. If I install more then 2G RAM it won’t boot?
What are my options as I don’t have another Mac to install Linux onto a HDD and GRUB2 will be setup for win7
The problem with the install image in the iMac was it was using GPT (GUID Partitioning Table)
Nice Save Ken
You may be able to take the Flask Drive apart to investigate the disk inside. If it is, like I assumed, a FireWire to PATA or FireWire to SATA adapter board plus a regular HDD, you can replace it with a CompactFlash card (for PATA HDD) or a SATA SSD (for SATA SSD) to make it a FireWire SSD. Then as long as you don't wreck the PCB you can drop it like no tomorrow and the SSD will survive.
That'd be fun for a future episode!