The lampshade iMac was by far the pinnacle of the G4 lineup... the articulating on that unit was the most balanced and buttery smooth thing I have ever put my hands on. If you weren't around for it, there's just no way of describing how well they perfected that feature.
I'm primarily a windows user, i can count on one hand the times I've used a Mac or an iMac and even I think the iMac G4 is one of the most beautiful computers ever made. A work of art! And even though this G4 is just a glorified monitor now, what a monitor it is!
Same... overall, I've never been a fan of the Mac or their ecosystem (never mind I found their stuff horribly overpriced for my budget, and I just prefer either Windows or Linux [or even DOS back in the day] systems to it), but they did make some very snazzy looking products, and it's always fun to see people giving new functionality to older products.
They cost a lot, but sip power and last for years without problems@@CanuckGod . Over all, I spend less on TCO by buying and using Apple kit. It does what I want, and does it well. My current workhorse iMac has been running 24/7/365 for 5 years so far. The previous one did so for 9 years, before I gave it away. It's still in regular use. But my favourite is still my c. 2001 'iLamp' with the 17" display.
The computer hardware which I thought looked amazing was the transparent Apple 17" Studio Display CRT monitor. Had it had the right plug to plug into a PC I would have bought one and the matching loudspeakers the day I first saw one.
At work we converted a G4 iMac to run Windows and replaced the display with a touchscreen from a POS system giving us a full touch enabled Windows 10 system. Always get's lots of confused looks from Mac people.
I can't say "want" in my case - but if someone gave me one for free or left one by the side of the road, I'd certainly bring it into my man cave, do necessary repairs (within reasonable cost) and stick Linux on it... as I tend to do with every abandoned computer sent in my direction. Nice design, albeit to me a computer is a tool and I really don't care what colour or shape it is - as long as it does well the stuff I need it to.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 It's odd that someone like you, who states that a computer is just a tool to you, watches this channel. It's quite on the opposite side to the merely utilitarian approach!
@@BilisNegraThis is a discussion about computers, not me - especially as "me" is a topic you know nothing about anyway. Therefore do try to keep up and stay on topic, there's a good chap - and put your little pile of "amateur Internet psychologist" books away now. Discussion closed, have a lovely rest of your day. And please stop obsessing about complete strangers on the Internet, it's not healthy behaviour.
This is the most beautiful computer that has ever been made. The clear acrylic around the matte white bezel of the display. The frosted plastic on the base and back of the display. The ultra fine concentric machined circles on the bottom which most people will never see. The stainless steel arm and the vent holes. The chrome Apple logo. The pop out tray. The speakers and keyboard and mouse. I mean… it just doesn’t get any better. I have a 17” on display at home and can’t get enough of the design all these years later.
Mine had the speaker plug broken off inside the socket (and the previous owner _threw away_ the original speakers), so I have to use an external amp via the headphone socket. Other than that, it runs beautifully.
I’d love to see 3D printed plugs to improve the fit and finish of those I/O ports on the back. Also a future board revision where there’s a full raspi system that can drive the screen directly running Rasbian or the like, where it’s essentially a Linux iMac that supports target display mode.
I LOVE Juicy Crumb. They also make boards for the 27” 2011 iMac which had such common crippling graphics failures. To see them continue to grow and make more old computers still usable is awesome.
Oh my god, really? I actually have one of those 2011 27 inchers lying around, maybe I'd do something like that to it (dont have a use for it so), and It'd give me a classic aluminium iMac look (I do NOT like the new imacs) while giving me the power of a new iMac (actually maybe even more because maybe you could fit an m3 pro mac mini in there, when it releases ofc)
@@Pendleton115 That’s awesome! Thanks again. My only hope is that it eventually comes down in price, but let’s be real this is ground breaking so I understand if it costs more.
Imagine how cool it would be if they made a mini set of devices a la the Nintendo NES classic edition, with iMac G3 and G4 models and maybe iBook and powerbook models too, all running mac OS classic emulators. Of course it will never happen, but one can dream!
@@juicy_crumbhi guys! very interesting, i'm pretty stoked about this. i've had new motherboard replacements/adapters for old computers on the brain lately, thanks for making something so interesting
This is the coolest thing ever! I have a 20” iMac G4, and it used to run perfectly after I repasted the CPU. Then I put it in storage for a while. Took it out maybe a year later and it is dead, dead, dead. I would definitely be interested in trying this.
God, when M1 was announced and people did this kind of stuff, I loved it so much. And after this video, I realize that I STILL love to watching it. Thank you for the video.
@@MaximNightFury - The beautiful thing about this board compared to alternatives is that there is no damage to the iMac. Easily returned to factory default whenever you like. We do care about the original products - but so many people are just throwing these in the trash... We need to give them a life between being new - old and retro.
I did something similar during the Pandemic. Gutted the dome and swapped in an AsRock A300 motherboard with a Ryzen 3400G. While I found a great guide on converting the TMDS signal from the monitor to HDMI, it only worked once before I fried something, so I ended up swapping the old LCD for a modern one. It's now my daily driver. Great to see other people show this beautiful machine the love it deserves!
Absolutely insane. I used to have the more square display G4 and loved it, but sold it when I moved as it was big and didn't do anything. I didn't forsee the M1 series and how I could actually make my dream a reality. Definitely on the hunt for another
I really wish I had kept my iLuxo. It was a (iirc) 17 inch 800 MHz G4. It worked perfectly fine at one point, but when I pulled it out of storage about a year ago, it was completely DOA. Just blinked its power light, nothing more. I tried several of the common fixes (and some of the less-common ones) -- reseated all the connectors, changed the battery, reset the PRAM, etc., blew hot air on the power supply using my hot air station (some models had power supplies known to have bad capacitors, and heating them brings them back to life. I was still somewhat leery of recapping high voltage stuff at the time, so recapping it was not an option) and also tried swapping in different memory, unfortunately to no avail. Ended up selling it because I was getting fed up with it, plus I needed the money. I absolutely love the design of the thing, the monitor that just sort of floats in midair is truly magical, and was really sorry to see it go. I would have LOVED to do a mod like this. I actually have an M1 mini that is my daily driver (I'm typing this comment on it right now) and would have loved to hack that into the old G4's shell.
Wow, you are a very lucky guy. I was a PC guy when this Mac came out but I still drooled over it. What a great way to get this masterpiece back to its former glory!
This is awesome! The iMac G4 is so iconic with such a cool design. The one flaw of this that I imagine is that the display isn't Retina, which is unfortunate
You have NO IDEA how overjoyed am that I came across this video! I have been waiting for someone to build a solution like this for YEARS. I've seen all the videos on how to convert a G4 iMac, but they all looked incredibly daunting and I knew I'd just end up destroying mine. This is an immediate order for me. So, so, so looking forward to trying this out.
@15:38 - May not be a lot out there but I almost guarantee the ones that are have been treated well because they haven't gone out of style. The reason you're talking about it today is testament to that :) My mom still has hers in her office but it hasn't run in a decade but it's still on her desk because it just looks so good. Thank you for showing me one way I can breathe exciting new life into it!
The problem is in the firmware. They need to add a routine to the firmware to detect if there is input to the hdmi. If there is, it sends the signal, if there is not: 1. Cuts the power supply to the monitor through a relay (requires re-wiring) 2. Adjusts the screen brightness to minimum (or completely turns off the backling, if possible) and Leave it like this, as soon as it is plugged into the socket, it will be on. Another cool solution would be to add an HDMI CEC controller to be able to control the computer through HDMI, this would allow a physical on/off button on the motherboard, which will make the computer sleep/turn off via HDMI. The motherboard's USB should be a USB 3.0+ hub that derives all ports from a single port on the Mac mini, connected internally, as well as HDMI
The DockLite G4 uses the "Hotplug Detect" pin to identify when a host device is connected and activates the backlight accordingly. Due to the architecture of the display and how Apple designed it there was no way for us to verify when the display was receiving an actual video source without adding additional complexity/cost to the design.
Thanks alot for showing how it can still work in 2024 🤗 I still have 2 of them in my basement (1 I will keep as original as it is) and was researching over the last years, to replace the original board with a newer Mac mini. But everything I found looks complicated and my talent for soldering is very limited. 🙈 That's why I never tried the already existing solutions. I was still waiting for an "easier" way and now it's available. 🤗 Thanks alot.
I have a dead 20” iMac G4 and I’ve been waiting for YEARS for something like this and have carted it around the country with me as I moved from place to place- if they decide to produce these with the Mac Mini (even an older intel one) already mounted to the board they can just take my money!!! 😍😍😍😍
This is so cool! I've always adored the look of the iMac G4, but it was before my time as a Mac user (I switched in 2008/2009), so seeing what you've done with this makes my heart happy. I think its fair to say that its no longer an iMac G4 - its now an iMac M2. And I love it!
Congratulations, you have transformed the best model that Apple has ever created in its entire life as a company into a modern iMac! It really is a dream to see this working and believe me, many of us would like a remake of this Apple model, but apparently Apple doesn't care about that.
I have kept my iMac G4 in my attic, safety covered with a cloth. Your video has got me thinking about bringing it back to life! Thank you!!! Also, I agree, the most beautiful computer Apple ever built!
My girlfriend had one of these 20 years ago. It was such a pleasure to use. Such a beautiful machine. I can't believe you managed this. If Apple started churning these out again (25th Anniversary Model!), they'd sell out.
I wonder if they could make a version of the Juicy Crumb board that has connectors on the inside with passthrough for Power, HDMI, USB etc for the Mac Mini. I'd love to see that become a thing. For brightness control I use MonitorControl and it works with every display. I wonder if that would work too.
Monitor Control Dims the image but it doesn’t actually lower the CFL Backlight brightness. Juicy-Link interfaces directly with the original hardware to lower the brightness. Hope this clears things up!
@@juicy_crumb actually MonitorControl does interface with the display and change the brightness on the display itself not just the image brightness. I've tested this with about 30 displays.
I've always wanted to do this! You're living my dream. I'll always have a soft spot for the iMac G3 (my first ever computer), but the G4 is the most beautiful computer ever made.
What a great and beautiful project. The quality of the display and. the resolution look amazing. If this would be offered in shops, I would consider buying it. Really great.
It doesn't matter where you stand in the PC space, the G4 is a novelty with its build quality. The swiveling screen, the fact that it has a computer in it.. I want to see Apple revive this, because this has to be the peak of iMacs.
I bought the original 15" monitor iMac the day it came out, back in 2002. It still works (although I don't use it, as I have a 2015 27" iMac) but I love what you've done with yours!
this is the coolest channel ever, im 24 and picked up a g4 powermac recently and shoved my windows pc inside, your channel makes me wanna do it again. im also in an emo band playing 90's - early 00's inspired stuff and your stuff sounded. badass
Man, this is amazing! I have a 20" iMac with a broken motherboard and this would be perfect for that. Whenever they are widely available, I totally am gonna snag one of these.
Over the last couple of weeks I’ve been working on my own project to convert a dead 17” G4 to M1. I elected to swap the display panel out because I decided that that would be easier than trying to create a driver for the old one and leave me with a better result too. The biggest pain so far is trying to find the right connectors for the things on the M1 Mac Mini board. I can read the pinout of the fan header, status LED, and power button, but trying to find connectors to tap into that non-destructively seems impossible. These guys have gotten halfway with my hopes of creating a board to replicate the rear I/O neatly which is exciting.
This is awesome, by far the best video I have seen all year! :) Modern internals combined with the incredible design of the iMac G4, what a legend. Instant subscribe.
I am no Apple guy at all but nerdy upcycling stuff like this makes me drool. Really love the creativity coming from the community to keep old tech alive as long as possible. That said, all I can do is agree with you, this thing still looks modern past the 60Hz panel. Too bad your friends and family probably know your hobby well enough, you could use this thing for a wonderful joke they'd love too otherwise :,D
Thank you so much for this video. I have a 17" inch iMac G4 that I have always wanted to turn into an M1 iMac G4. Now that you've created this video, I will be on the lookout for a 20" inch iMac G4, since Juicy Crumb only sells a board for the 20" inch iMac! Besides being a MAC User, I also collect old Macs. I have 5 old iMacs going back to 2000, 7 old Apple Laptops going back to 1995 and 2 old desktops going back to 1993. Keep up with the great content! Love your show!!!
That is just AMAZING! I'm so envious - I wish I had an iMac G4 customised for Intel i7 capable of running everything from Mavericks to Catalina, I'd be using it every day...
Remember the "Commodore 64x" from 2009 that was a mini-ITX desktop built into a fake breadbin case? I would love it if some company started making and selling brand-new PC cases modeled after G3 and G4 iMacs. The "G3" would have to be significantly redesigned to accommodate a decently-sized modern flat panel, but have way more space in the back to play with and be able to hold full-sized graphics cards, while the "G4" could be scaled all the way up to a 24" display and still retain the feel of the original. Both would require built-in extensions for most or all of the motherboard's built-in ports due to the curvature of the cases.
Great project! I'd like to build the opposite of this which is using a current iMac fabricating a base matching the G4 with a heavy duty arm to support the current hardware. In the base adding a disc drive, docking station, additional storage, maybe even a floppy drive!
Apple should produce this as a kind of 4k monitor with “stand” where you can insert your own complete mac mini into the stand or dock a macbook onto. If they make the next mac mini a bit smaller that should be easy. It would be such a stylish setup, certainly with those speakers
BRO! I’ve been wanting this EXACT thing for my 2002 iMac G4! Like I’ve literally been praying to every deity known and unknown for something like this. I’ve wanted to restore my old iMac to modern glory for so long and now it feels like I’m finally a step closer! 🥲
Finally scored one this weekend. Listed in Facebook market place. No details. Took a risk and gave him $40. My friend was traveling to where it was over the weekend, picked it up, and lo and behold, a working 20" for forty bucks. 😎
If they created a variation of this board with a mount for a Mac mini system board, this would be perfect.
I think I'm going to try to design some kind of 3D printable mount
@@ActionRetroA short update video would be cool once things are all tied up. I love seeing old hardware with new life. Gonna go subscribe. 👍
Or even just internal connectors so you don't have to loop the cables outside.
@@pseudotasuki Agreed. And if they combined that with a mount, that'd be absolutely perfect
Exposing internal ports would make it convenient to drop in any small mobo, like a Pi or thinkcentre
The G4 looks like it belongs in a Dentists office that doesn't accept my insurance.
In this sea of praise for the G4, the last thing I expected was the hardest roast I'll ever see
Hilarious
😂😂😂
Best comment of 2024
Pretty sure many luxury shops, spas and dentists had them as their payment point / booking computer at the front desk.
The lampshade iMac was by far the pinnacle of the G4 lineup... the articulating on that unit was the most balanced and buttery smooth thing I have ever put my hands on. If you weren't around for it, there's just no way of describing how well they perfected that feature.
I'm primarily a windows user, i can count on one hand the times I've used a Mac or an iMac and even I think the iMac G4 is one of the most beautiful computers ever made. A work of art!
And even though this G4 is just a glorified monitor now, what a monitor it is!
Same... overall, I've never been a fan of the Mac or their ecosystem (never mind I found their stuff horribly overpriced for my budget, and I just prefer either Windows or Linux [or even DOS back in the day] systems to it), but they did make some very snazzy looking products, and it's always fun to see people giving new functionality to older products.
They cost a lot, but sip power and last for years without problems@@CanuckGod . Over all, I spend less on TCO by buying and using Apple kit. It does what I want, and does it well. My current workhorse iMac has been running 24/7/365 for 5 years so far. The previous one did so for 9 years, before I gave it away. It's still in regular use. But my favourite is still my c. 2001 'iLamp' with the 17" display.
The computer hardware which I thought looked amazing was the transparent Apple 17" Studio Display CRT monitor. Had it had the right plug to plug into a PC I would have bought one and the matching loudspeakers the day I first saw one.
At work we converted a G4 iMac to run Windows and replaced the display with a touchscreen from a POS system giving us a full touch enabled Windows 10 system. Always get's lots of confused looks from Mac people.
The iMac people **actually** want! Beautiful!
I can't say "want" in my case - but if someone gave me one for free or left one by the side of the road, I'd certainly bring it into my man cave, do necessary repairs (within reasonable cost) and stick Linux on it... as I tend to do with every abandoned computer sent in my direction.
Nice design, albeit to me a computer is a tool and I really don't care what colour or shape it is - as long as it does well the stuff I need it to.
@@terrydaktyllus1320missing the point of this entirely
@@stfuomgdudeThis is a discussion about computers, not me.
Therefore do try to keep up and stay on topic, there's a good chap.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 It's odd that someone like you, who states that a computer is just a tool to you, watches this channel. It's quite on the opposite side to the merely utilitarian approach!
@@BilisNegraThis is a discussion about computers, not me - especially as "me" is a topic you know nothing about anyway.
Therefore do try to keep up and stay on topic, there's a good chap - and put your little pile of "amateur Internet psychologist" books away now.
Discussion closed, have a lovely rest of your day. And please stop obsessing about complete strangers on the Internet, it's not healthy behaviour.
This is the most beautiful computer that has ever been made. The clear acrylic around the matte white bezel of the display. The frosted plastic on the base and back of the display. The ultra fine concentric machined circles on the bottom which most people will never see. The stainless steel arm and the vent holes. The chrome Apple logo. The pop out tray. The speakers and keyboard and mouse. I mean… it just doesn’t get any better. I have a 17” on display at home and can’t get enough of the design all these years later.
couldn´t agree more. I am lucky enough to get the 20" version. apple engeneering at its finest peek! (you hear me Jonathan Ive!)
Mine had the speaker plug broken off inside the socket (and the previous owner _threw away_ the original speakers), so I have to use an external amp via the headphone socket. Other than that, it runs beautifully.
OK Stevie
I’d love to see 3D printed plugs to improve the fit and finish of those I/O ports on the back.
Also a future board revision where there’s a full raspi system that can drive the screen directly running Rasbian or the like, where it’s essentially a Linux iMac that supports target display mode.
I LOVE Juicy Crumb. They also make boards for the 27” 2011 iMac which had such common crippling graphics failures. To see them continue to grow and make more old computers still usable is awesome.
So its the same people. Psiviewri did a video instlling that board I think.
I'm the co-founder of Juicy Crumb, thanks for the kind words! Hopefully this is just the beginning!
Oh my god, really? I actually have one of those 2011 27 inchers lying around, maybe I'd do something like that to it (dont have a use for it so), and It'd give me a classic aluminium iMac look (I do NOT like the new imacs) while giving me the power of a new iMac (actually maybe even more because maybe you could fit an m3 pro mac mini in there, when it releases ofc)
@@Pendleton115 That’s awesome! Thanks again. My only hope is that it eventually comes down in price, but let’s be real this is ground breaking so I understand if it costs more.
@@LouisSubearth Yeah it sure is. I thought they’d stop at the iMac board. But nope, they’re growing this market! 🙌
Imagine Apple made an anniversary edition iMac in the style of an iMac G3 or G4. Would be a cool collectors item.
I might honestly buy an oldschool-style modern Mac
@basicallyhuman Most iPhones have looked almost exactly the same as the previous model 🙂
Imagine how cool it would be if they made a mini set of devices a la the Nintendo NES classic edition, with iMac G3 and G4 models and maybe iBook and powerbook models too, all running mac OS classic emulators. Of course it will never happen, but one can dream!
If they did... It would have a price tag of $7,499.
I love seeing new life given to old machines that shaped the industry.
I love the purple color of the board.
We're glad to hear that!
@@juicy_crumbhi guys! very interesting, i'm pretty stoked about this. i've had new motherboard replacements/adapters for old computers on the brain lately, thanks for making something so interesting
That makes it a lush piece of eye candy, to be sure.
Love purple it's my fave but you'll never see it LMAO 🤣
@@RaymondWeidenbach I wools just make a bottom that was transparent lol
This is the coolest thing ever! I have a 20” iMac G4, and it used to run perfectly after I repasted the CPU. Then I put it in storage for a while. Took it out maybe a year later and it is dead, dead, dead. I would definitely be interested in trying this.
God, when M1 was announced and people did this kind of stuff, I loved it so much. And after this video, I realize that I STILL love to watching it. Thank you for the video.
Oh yeah! And now my Saturday has officially started 😊
Mine's coming to an end already 😢
Heck yeah! Starting my weekend off with Action Retro is always a treat
Hi
my Sunday is officially ending
@@MrRelevance02 So sad
FANTASTIC! Hope they make these boards for the 17"!! I've got one here that is near mint!
Don't do it for a working system
@@MaximNightFury - The beautiful thing about this board compared to alternatives is that there is no damage to the iMac. Easily returned to factory default whenever you like. We do care about the original products - but so many people are just throwing these in the trash... We need to give them a life between being new - old and retro.
@@digitalrampageIt's an incredible mission and a fantastic product - so creative! Roll on the 17" version!
+1
I did something similar during the Pandemic. Gutted the dome and swapped in an AsRock A300 motherboard with a Ryzen 3400G. While I found a great guide on converting the TMDS signal from the monitor to HDMI, it only worked once before I fried something, so I ended up swapping the old LCD for a modern one. It's now my daily driver. Great to see other people show this beautiful machine the love it deserves!
You should upgrade it with a Ryzen 4070 💀
The arm on that monitor was really nice! I wish Apple still made them like that.
Absolutely insane. I used to have the more square display G4 and loved it, but sold it when I moved as it was big and didn't do anything. I didn't forsee the M1 series and how I could actually make my dream a reality. Definitely on the hunt for another
This display is gorgeous
looks dim
Not even 4k
not even 240hz g-sync smh@@webmasale
I really wish I had kept my iLuxo. It was a (iirc) 17 inch 800 MHz G4. It worked perfectly fine at one point, but when I pulled it out of storage about a year ago, it was completely DOA. Just blinked its power light, nothing more. I tried several of the common fixes (and some of the less-common ones) -- reseated all the connectors, changed the battery, reset the PRAM, etc., blew hot air on the power supply using my hot air station (some models had power supplies known to have bad capacitors, and heating them brings them back to life. I was still somewhat leery of recapping high voltage stuff at the time, so recapping it was not an option) and also tried swapping in different memory, unfortunately to no avail. Ended up selling it because I was getting fed up with it, plus I needed the money. I absolutely love the design of the thing, the monitor that just sort of floats in midair is truly magical, and was really sorry to see it go. I would have LOVED to do a mod like this. I actually have an M1 mini that is my daily driver (I'm typing this comment on it right now) and would have loved to hack that into the old G4's shell.
Wow, you are a very lucky guy. I was a PC guy when this Mac came out but I still drooled over it. What a great way to get this masterpiece back to its former glory!
Pretty much been an x86 PC guy all along, but admittedly this is a beautiful beast, nice to see that it's getting some modern love.
Wikid Awesome!
Thats Board is gonna go Brrrrrr
I NEED THIS! My 20" iMac is dead like yours, this would be freaking awesome!
Do eeet!
@@ActionRetroSeconded
You can really feel your genuine excitement in this one. Super cool mod, and absolutely a fantastic use for this machine!
This iMac still looks modern. I'd love to see this with the trash can Mac, that one is so beautiful.
same!! would love to see an MTA-trash-can Mac pro with an M-series board inside...
So do I. I hope it's not deemed too modern for this channel...
Pretty sure the M1 and M2 desktop boards fit inside the trash can too.
Revive old machines!
This is awesome! The iMac G4 is so iconic with such a cool design. The one flaw of this that I imagine is that the display isn't Retina, which is unfortunate
You have NO IDEA how overjoyed am that I came across this video! I have been waiting for someone to build a solution like this for YEARS. I've seen all the videos on how to convert a G4 iMac, but they all looked incredibly daunting and I knew I'd just end up destroying mine. This is an immediate order for me. So, so, so looking forward to trying this out.
11:42 Wow looks very futuristic, i love it
I am SO excited for this project! I've been wanting to get a G4 again and do something like this for a while and now it's so much more viable.
Saturday morning just watchin’ mah stories
I sure hope a 17" version is in the works
I have the original 15”, though my current plan is to try Adelie and use it to VNC into a Pi 4 or mini PC running Kodi
I would love to do this on my 24 inch late 2006 iMac. Probably my favorite iMac ever
I have the 17 inch model of that imac. It's my favorite
I have one of these iMac packed up in my garage. Now this give me some idea on what to do with it. Thanks.
You absolute madman
lmfao u must be from the UK!
@@DuffHugeReese is also a UA-camr, check out his channel if you like vintage Atari computers. :)
@15:38 - May not be a lot out there but I almost guarantee the ones that are have been treated well because they haven't gone out of style. The reason you're talking about it today is testament to that :) My mom still has hers in her office but it hasn't run in a decade but it's still on her desk because it just looks so good. Thank you for showing me one way I can breathe exciting new life into it!
The problem is in the firmware. They need to add a routine to the firmware to detect if there is input to the hdmi. If there is, it sends the signal, if there is not: 1. Cuts the power supply to the monitor through a relay (requires re-wiring) 2. Adjusts the screen brightness to minimum (or completely turns off the backling, if possible) and Leave it like this, as soon as it is plugged into the socket, it will be on.
Another cool solution would be to add an HDMI CEC controller to be able to control the computer through HDMI, this would allow a physical on/off button on the motherboard, which will make the computer sleep/turn off via HDMI.
The motherboard's USB should be a USB 3.0+ hub that derives all ports from a single port on the Mac mini, connected internally, as well as HDMI
The DockLite G4 uses the "Hotplug Detect" pin to identify when a host device is connected and activates the backlight accordingly. Due to the architecture of the display and how Apple designed it there was no way for us to verify when the display was receiving an actual video source without adding additional complexity/cost to the design.
Love this so much, I have a Classic II with an M1 mini inside and an iPad retina LCD on a controller board, but this is next level! Kudos!
this is one of the coolest seemless Mac mods i have ever seen. S+ man. S+.
Thanks alot for showing how it can still work in 2024 🤗
I still have 2 of them in my basement (1 I will keep as original as it is) and was researching over the last years, to replace the original board with a newer Mac mini. But everything I found looks complicated and my talent for soldering is very limited. 🙈 That's why I never tried the already existing solutions. I was still waiting for an "easier" way and now it's available. 🤗 Thanks alot.
This ended up being WAY less cursed than I thought it was going to be! I'm a fan of drop-in conversions like this.
but THANK you for pointing us in the Juicy Crumb up-scaling direction :D
I have a dead 20” iMac G4 and I’ve been waiting for YEARS for something like this and have carted it around the country with me as I moved from place to place- if they decide to produce these with the Mac Mini (even an older intel one) already mounted to the board they can just take my money!!! 😍😍😍😍
This is the coolest thing I've seen in a long time.
The juicy crumb looks like a map of towns sprinkled across an Australian (or Kansan) plain.
Nice to see you resurrect this classic. I love these kind of builds.
This is so cool! I've always adored the look of the iMac G4, but it was before my time as a Mac user (I switched in 2008/2009), so seeing what you've done with this makes my heart happy. I think its fair to say that its no longer an iMac G4 - its now an iMac M2. And I love it!
Congratulations, you have transformed the best model that Apple has ever created in its entire life as a company into a modern iMac!
It really is a dream to see this working and believe me, many of us would like a remake of this Apple model, but apparently Apple doesn't care about that.
I have kept my iMac G4 in my attic, safety covered with a cloth. Your video has got me thinking about bringing it back to life! Thank you!!!
Also, I agree, the most beautiful computer Apple ever built!
i'm actually crying... The absolute love being shown to this gorgeous design is incredible!
My girlfriend had one of these 20 years ago. It was such a pleasure to use. Such a beautiful machine. I can't believe you managed this. If Apple started churning these out again (25th Anniversary Model!), they'd sell out.
iMac G4 is the best mac ever I love that you did this
what a gorgeous sleeper!
This is the sort of content that I just can’t enough of, thank you!
I wonder if they could make a version of the Juicy Crumb board that has connectors on the inside with passthrough for Power, HDMI, USB etc for the Mac Mini. I'd love to see that become a thing.
For brightness control I use MonitorControl and it works with every display. I wonder if that would work too.
Monitor Control Dims the image but it doesn’t actually lower the CFL Backlight brightness. Juicy-Link interfaces directly with the original hardware to lower the brightness. Hope this clears things up!
@@juicy_crumb actually MonitorControl does interface with the display and change the brightness on the display itself not just the image brightness. I've tested this with about 30 displays.
Man! .... from Retro to fast Future 2024! iMac G4 is surely an antique! This Video shows it WORKS !
I always wanted to do that, but I"'m not that good to rewire it again. This solution is fantastic. I just ordered mine!
If they start making these boards for the smaller (and much more common) models of iMac G4 I will buy instantly
I love when people come up with these kinds of solutions. Everyone wins when this stuff stays outta the landfill
That right there is **Shenanigans Hall of Fame** material!!! Awesome, Sean 😂😂😂
I've always wanted to do this! You're living my dream. I'll always have a soft spot for the iMac G3 (my first ever computer), but the G4 is the most beautiful computer ever made.
What a great and beautiful project. The quality of the display and. the resolution look amazing. If this would be offered in shops, I would consider buying it. Really great.
Im from Australia so, Im glad we could help.
One of my teachers had a sunflower mac and I always loved the way it looked
It doesn't matter where you stand in the PC space, the G4 is a novelty with its build quality. The swiveling screen, the fact that it has a computer in it.. I want to see Apple revive this, because this has to be the peak of iMacs.
I bought the original 15" monitor iMac the day it came out, back in 2002. It still works (although I don't use it, as I have a 2015 27" iMac) but I love what you've done with yours!
this is the coolest channel ever, im 24 and picked up a g4 powermac recently and shoved my windows pc inside, your channel makes me wanna do it again. im also in an emo band playing 90's - early 00's inspired stuff and your stuff sounded. badass
Simply fantastic! Nicely done! Reusing beautifully crafted computer housings is a fantastic project and an inspiring video! Thank you!
Rereleasing the g4 imac with modern hardware might even get me to come back to apple.
This iMac G4 20" was my 1st Mac, and I agree it was probably the best iMac ever.
This iMac is what i ever wanted
This is the EXACT type of video I want to make on my channel.
This is crazy awesome! G4 iMacs need not be collecting dust anymore.
Apple should definitely build the iMac like this again. So many people complain about the adjustability of the display and it's limitations
The iMac G4, to this day, is my ideal computer. I used them in school, and the sheer beauty of it is seared into me to this day.
This is very rad. And it looks very do-able
I wish they made a similar board for the 30 inch cinema display damn
This is fabulous!! I have the iMac G4 20" - I am considering this!
Man, this is amazing! I have a 20" iMac with a broken motherboard and this would be perfect for that. Whenever they are widely available, I totally am gonna snag one of these.
That was totally AWESOME!! Now to get an old iMac G4 and upgrade it!
Over the last couple of weeks I’ve been working on my own project to convert a dead 17” G4 to M1. I elected to swap the display panel out because I decided that that would be easier than trying to create a driver for the old one and leave me with a better result too.
The biggest pain so far is trying to find the right connectors for the things on the M1 Mac Mini board. I can read the pinout of the fan header, status LED, and power button, but trying to find connectors to tap into that non-destructively seems impossible.
These guys have gotten halfway with my hopes of creating a board to replicate the rear I/O neatly which is exciting.
This is awesome, by far the best video I have seen all year! :) Modern internals combined with the incredible design of the iMac G4, what a legend. Instant subscribe.
This mod is right up my alley. I hope it's reasonably affordable when released.
I am no Apple guy at all but nerdy upcycling stuff like this makes me drool.
Really love the creativity coming from the community to keep old tech alive as long as possible.
That said, all I can do is agree with you, this thing still looks modern past the 60Hz panel.
Too bad your friends and family probably know your hobby well enough, you could use this thing for a wonderful joke they'd love too otherwise :,D
Too bad juicy crumb’s store page is down right now, I have a 20” iMac sitting on my desk as an art piece and I would buy this in a second
Its back up - Sorry about that, the website got hammered when the video went online. (Cheers, Adrian - JuicyCrumb)
Such a sweet sleeper build, always loved the G4 design!
Extra thumbs up for playing 7Days!
Thank you so much for this video. I have a 17" inch iMac G4 that I have always wanted to turn into an M1 iMac G4. Now that you've created this video, I will be on the lookout for a 20" inch iMac G4, since Juicy Crumb only sells a board for the 20" inch iMac! Besides being a MAC User, I also collect old Macs. I have 5 old iMacs going back to 2000, 7 old Apple Laptops going back to 1995 and 2 old desktops going back to 1993. Keep up with the great content! Love your show!!!
That is just AMAZING! I'm so envious - I wish I had an iMac G4 customised for Intel i7 capable of running everything from Mavericks to Catalina, I'd be using it every day...
Remember the "Commodore 64x" from 2009 that was a mini-ITX desktop built into a fake breadbin case? I would love it if some company started making and selling brand-new PC cases modeled after G3 and G4 iMacs. The "G3" would have to be significantly redesigned to accommodate a decently-sized modern flat panel, but have way more space in the back to play with and be able to hold full-sized graphics cards, while the "G4" could be scaled all the way up to a 24" display and still retain the feel of the original. Both would require built-in extensions for most or all of the motherboard's built-in ports due to the curvature of the cases.
Cool hack. It’s the only old Mac I’ve saved. The design is so great. Not sure I will make it “new” but very cool you can!
Apple should absolutely release retro-future models like this
these were pretty epic machines. what resolution is it running at? The stock G4 I think ran at 1280x860 or something...
The 20" model had a 1680x1050 display.
@@pseudotasukidamn that’s pretty solid for 2002. Basically just 16/10 1080p
@@aidanbrooks771no, it's 1050p
I'd love to see something like this done to the iBook G3 Clamshell
Unfortunately their rarity and plastics deteriorating wouldn't make this viable.
this is totally brilliant, i need to do this as i have a dead 20" imac also
Those guys are legends for releasing that board. I might even do the same but the screen is low resolution unfortunately
Great project! I'd like to build the opposite of this which is using a current iMac fabricating a base matching the G4 with a heavy duty arm to support the current hardware. In the base adding a disc drive, docking station, additional storage, maybe even a floppy drive!
Apple should produce this as a kind of 4k monitor with “stand” where you can insert your own complete mac mini into the stand or dock a macbook onto. If they make the next mac mini a bit smaller that should be easy.
It would be such a stylish setup, certainly with those speakers
my dream pc design with the latest tech well done
BRO! I’ve been wanting this EXACT thing for my 2002 iMac G4! Like I’ve literally been praying to every deity known and unknown for something like this. I’ve wanted to restore my old iMac to modern glory for so long and now it feels like I’m finally a step closer! 🥲
Finally scored one this weekend. Listed in Facebook market place. No details. Took a risk and gave him $40. My friend was traveling to where it was over the weekend, picked it up, and lo and behold, a working 20" for forty bucks. 😎