21 Explorer ST VS Durango R/T (2 pulls)

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  • Опубліковано 22 лют 2023
  • Explorer ST
    ZFG 93 octane tune, Whipple Intercooler, FenFab Intake, Charge pipe with Raceport BOV and rear differential brace.
    Durango R/T
    Stock

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  • @joehiatt1992
    @joehiatt1992 Рік тому +11

    I have a V6 Durango & came across someone in a ST & he got on the gas & its very quick,I like both

  • @jesusdavila579
    @jesusdavila579 Місяць тому +9

    The fact that theres people who actually think the rt had a chance against the ST to begin with is insane lmao “stock for stock” yea. Still getting SMOKED LOL

    • @stellaa1328
      @stellaa1328 Місяць тому +1

      I've seen them RTs move, it wont win but it wouldn't lose by a lot either. They'd be relatively on par

    • @USDM_Jesus
      @USDM_Jesus 9 днів тому +1

      ​@@stellaa1328 on par? They make 30 less hp and weight 600lbs more they are no where near on par

  • @cwsosby
    @cwsosby 4 місяці тому +4

    I have a 2023 ST and all I can say without saying it's fast is, I never thought I'd be so confident on the street in a stock Ford Explorer 😁

    • @BlackSheepRacing88
      @BlackSheepRacing88  4 місяці тому

      If I could recommend 1 modification. Put a tune by ZFG Racing on it. It will wake it up like you wouldn't believe while still running all stock parts.

    • @cwsosby
      @cwsosby 4 місяці тому

      @@BlackSheepRacing88 Can I still run the 88 octane fuel, or will I have to start using premium?

    • @BlackSheepRacing88
      @BlackSheepRacing88  4 місяці тому

      You can get the auto octane tune which allows you to run any gasoline 87+, but the dedicated 93 tune will give you a little extra power. I've never ran auto octane myself, I use 93 and sometimes I run E50 but I haven't seen anyone complain about any of his tunes. I started with Livernois Motorsports and after about a year I switched to ZFG once I started adding more parts and hearing their name all over the explorer ST community and I'm glad I made the switch.

    • @cwsosby
      @cwsosby 4 місяці тому

      @@BlackSheepRacing88 ok, thanks for the info. I’m just starting to learn about a lot of this and it’s like a foreign language compared to any type of tuning I’ve done in the past on the older stuff I’m used too.

    • @robertmartin1269
      @robertmartin1269 3 місяці тому

      Its still a boring ass ford, a police car at that🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤣😂

  • @tmoss1900
    @tmoss1900 6 днів тому

    There's nothing like seeing a couple of Brady Bunch station wagons duke it out on the highway. At least a Vista cruiser came with 455 cid, cool double notch moon roof, true duals, and a 4brl that sucked the hood in. Yep, Taco Bell is the place and happy, happy joy joy. At least toilet paper was free for cussing in the movie.

    • @BlackSheepRacing88
      @BlackSheepRacing88  5 днів тому

      Not sure what half of this said, but my Brady bunch station wagon takes down most modern muscle cars with little effort. It also has a dual pane sunroof and true duals and my little V6 makes double the power a 455 from the 70s does.

  • @392Reviews
    @392Reviews Рік тому +12

    That looks like an R/T, fire run still bro!

    • @BlackSheepRacing88
      @BlackSheepRacing88  Рік тому +1

      It could have been. What are the visual signs between the two? I thought the blacked out trim was an SRT thing.

    • @392Reviews
      @392Reviews Рік тому +6

      @@BlackSheepRacing88 SRTs will have 392 on the side not "Hemi", they will also have the SRT badge upfront not the Dodge with the // hashmarks. They will also have a different wheel and tire setup, almost positive that is an R/T. I work at a Ford / CDJR Dealership and have wanted an SRT Durango for some time...price tells me otherwise ;)

    • @fordflexking2014
      @fordflexking2014 Рік тому +4

      ​​​@@392Reviews I will take my ecoboost over srt anyday. More reliable and more potential. My ecoboost ford flex ain't stock but I smoke srts while having almost 300k miles.

    • @392Reviews
      @392Reviews Рік тому +1

      @@fordflexking2014 Nice!!!

    • @williemaykit7940
      @williemaykit7940 11 місяців тому +2

      @@fordflexking2014 I hope my little 2.7 Ecoboost is 300k reliable! That's awesome!

  • @putz173
    @putz173 Місяць тому

    stock for stock the 3.0 has alot more power than the 5.7, had the 5 star 91 tune on my '22 ST and it was quick, didnt look like the R/T was bothering, they arent that fast. But id take my 392 Durango over my 22 ST every day of the week... might even consider the 5.7 with the exhaust note from the ST being what it is.

  • @jamesm2464
    @jamesm2464 2 місяці тому

    Surprised at this, my stock 2023 F-150 5.0L V8 STX runs down my buddies Explorer ST. It’s close but the 5.0 pulls steadily once it hits 3rd gear.

    • @BlackSheepRacing88
      @BlackSheepRacing88  2 місяці тому

      My ST is far from stock or the durango would have at least hung in the frame a few more seconds lol. Stock the F150 5.0 would run a mid to high 14 at 95ish MPH depending on which rear end it has, the ST stock runs a mid 13 at just over 100MPH. I would say your buddy probably isn't preboosting and maybe not in sport mode so the trans is shifting too early and soft. With just an E50 tune from ZFG Racing that ST would pull on 5.0L mustangs.

    • @jamesm2464
      @jamesm2464 2 місяці тому

      My 5.0 is pretty light (XL STX) and a supercab. Typically runs a 13.9 1/4 mile. The 14.4 quoted by Car and Driver is a Platinum so quite a bit heavier

  • @timtool3229
    @timtool3229 3 місяці тому

    Agreed

  • @leoramirez6158
    @leoramirez6158 11 місяців тому +17

    The Durango driver isn't in right gear at right rpm, no way its getting left that fast.

    • @BlackSheepRacing88
      @BlackSheepRacing88  11 місяців тому +7

      Mine has almost double the power, 2 more gears to stay in peak power better, and I'm about 500lbs lighter. We did 2 pulls, I honked off the first one and they counted off the second so I'm sure they were as ready as they could have been.

    • @leoramirez6158
      @leoramirez6158 11 місяців тому +2

      ​@@BlackSheepRacing88the Durango was stock? Makes sense now

    • @taylorl4856
      @taylorl4856 8 місяців тому

      Right

    • @taylorl4856
      @taylorl4856 8 місяців тому +1

      Yeah he dont know how to use his shifters no way should of left him 8 gears

    • @motortoys9942
      @motortoys9942 3 місяці тому +1

      Dude yes these rts are dog shit slow not even 400hp crank at 5400lbs lol

  • @NightCrawler810
    @NightCrawler810 2 місяці тому

    Durango RT is governed at 120 why i dont know but it is

  • @ASBIIIT
    @ASBIIIT Рік тому +3

    R/T definitely stock

    • @Misnjef
      @Misnjef Рік тому +2

      Yeah they’re very slow

    • @fordflexking2014
      @fordflexking2014 Рік тому +1

      Yes but even stock vs stock the ST will win. That's why this was such a gap because of the little bolt ons.

    • @notimezforgames1465
      @notimezforgames1465 Рік тому +1

      @@fordflexking2014 r/t is pretty much going to be toast against most v8's, and newer forced induction v6's that make similar power....they usually need extensive work like cams, tunes, and weight reduction to even the odds against similar competition...i also believe even a 4.6 v8 genesis with similar hp/tq is also quicker than the whole r/t lineup, even the challys, and chargers..

    • @jesusdavila579
      @jesusdavila579 Місяць тому +1

      Whats ur point lol ST will smoke that thing stock for stock 😂😂😂 stop playing.

  • @motortoys9942
    @motortoys9942 3 місяці тому

    Need srt8 to run the ST and if the ST has E85 and or bigger turbos need a trackhawk or hellcat Durango

    • @BlackSheepRacing88
      @BlackSheepRacing88  3 місяці тому +1

      I have multiple videos running scat pack and srt8's, even giving them the hit most of the time. And all except my most recent scat pack race are all on 93 octane. I'm still stock turbos, trans, fuel system.

    • @motortoys9942
      @motortoys9942 3 місяці тому

      @@BlackSheepRacing88 yeah I saw that one but I was just going to say it wasn't an even race you gave him the hit in the minute you started to pull he let off (like the always do) ST forsure faster I just want to see a clean race of one of those scats getting drug 😂

    • @BlackSheepRacing88
      @BlackSheepRacing88  3 місяці тому

      My best 1/4 mile is 11.68 which puts me in hellcat territory. I'd love to find a hellcat durango at the track and get a good fair run on camera.

    • @z-ra
      @z-ra 2 місяці тому

      @@BlackSheepRacing88 trap speed?

    • @BlackSheepRacing88
      @BlackSheepRacing88  2 місяці тому +1

      About 118 MPH

  • @addyaisho7761
    @addyaisho7761 Рік тому +2

    WOW lmao was he really full throttle? and what mph rolls were this

    • @BlackSheepRacing88
      @BlackSheepRacing88  Рік тому

      They pointed to go when I started the 3 honks then the passenger did a count to three the second roll so I would assume he was going lol. We were around 60MPH when we started both times.

  • @stoneyswolf
    @stoneyswolf 6 місяців тому +1

    The RT was just driving down the road wasn't racing. My RT will get up and go don't know if it's faster but it definitely isn't that slow.

    • @BlackSheepRacing88
      @BlackSheepRacing88  6 місяців тому

      We literally honked off the first run and their passenger counted off the second, pretty sure that means they were racing. It seemed stock and mine is pretty modified but they were the ones to initiate so I wasn't going to decline.

    • @BoRNShadow
      @BoRNShadow 5 місяців тому +1

      it’s definitely that slow 😂 my 2018 explorer sport keeps up with the hemi stock but when i tuned it, it woke up and decided it was an st so they were roughly the same. but it’s definitely that “slow”

    • @USDM_Jesus
      @USDM_Jesus 9 днів тому

      ​@@BoRNShadowI walk RTs in my 19 sport

  • @15DurangoRT
    @15DurangoRT 2 місяці тому

    The RT wasn't even interested. You can see he didn't even accelerate. If he had it would have been a lot closer. Your 400 against his 360

    • @BlackSheepRacing88
      @BlackSheepRacing88  2 місяці тому

      You can see their passenger start the count off on the second run but ok. And like it says in the description I'm not stock. At this time i was just shy of 500WHP vs the crank rated 360 of the durango, plus I'm 500lbs lighter.

    • @USDM_Jesus
      @USDM_Jesus 9 днів тому

      A 5500lb durango against a 4900lb explorer that makes more power?

    • @BlackSheepRacing88
      @BlackSheepRacing88  9 днів тому

      @USDM_Jesus It was definitely a one sided race but he kept coming back for more lol.

  • @mariovo5
    @mariovo5 Місяць тому

    There both fast 🤔 but as a professional truck driver I can not speed like that I have a clean record so I won't be getting the ST. If anything A 392 5.7 V8. I had a V8 98 Durango and it was faster than the one I have now🤔. 3.6 it's a basic car. I miss my Sonic LT 1.4 36 miles a gal.

  • @Sub-Zero-392
    @Sub-Zero-392 Місяць тому

    Modded soccer mom SUV vs stock Durango RT.

    • @BlackSheepRacing88
      @BlackSheepRacing88  Місяць тому

      Stock VS Stock the results would be the same. What makes the ST a soccer mom SUV but not the durango?

    • @Sub-Zero-392
      @Sub-Zero-392 Місяць тому

      @@BlackSheepRacing88 the RT trim is pretty laid back from the factory compared to the 392 Durango. As far as potential goes the 5.7 Hemi V8 has far more than a tiny Ecoboost v6. The Durango has a very muscular appearance compared to the Ford explorer which is known to be a well-selling soccer mom midsize SUV or a cop car. Nobody mistakes the Durango for either a cop car or a soccer mom suv. I know Ford doesn't give you guys V8 options, luckily for you the RT and SRT Durango's are still around if you want to ditch the V6 and have awesome V8 power.

    • @BlackSheepRacing88
      @BlackSheepRacing88  Місяць тому

      I have a friend with a challenger RT that spent $40k to keep up with hellcats. I do that now on $10k. I put 550HP to the wheels and still run stock turbos and fuel system. This platform is far from maxed out. I wish you would do more research before commenting. How many durangos with a 5.7 are in the 10s? There's multiple explorers already there. And BTW the durango is used as a cop car and is frequently seen driven by suburban moms as well.

    • @Sub-Zero-392
      @Sub-Zero-392 Місяць тому

      @@BlackSheepRacing88 😂 I certainly don't know anyone that would invest that kind of cash in the RT when they can just go 392 or higher, that makes zero sense to me. I'm sure there is people out there that have got their RT Durango to hit ten's. If someone is going to be really competitive with a performance SUV they're going to go with the SRT trim which I've seen do unbelievable things. I have personally never seen a Dodge Durango cop car and I certainly don't see more soccer moms driving a V8 Durango over Ford's 4 and 6 cylinder explorers.

    • @BlackSheepRacing88
      @BlackSheepRacing88  Місяць тому

      I'm still sitting $10k cheaper vehicle and mods than a stock SRT durango and I run hellcat times so I'm happy with that. I'm not looking for 1000+HP out of my family car/daily driver so I don't need a ton of room to grow much more than where I'm at with this thing, plus I still get over 24MPG when I cruise.

  • @Freddy_Confetti
    @Freddy_Confetti Рік тому +5

    Pshh lol that ST could keep up w a trackhawk. Stop kicking puppies

    • @BlackSheepRacing88
      @BlackSheepRacing88  Рік тому +2

      I agree but I've only found 1 trackhawk in this area and with 3 wide open lanes they wouldn't go. Plus the durango passenger challenged me so I couldn't say no lol. I gotta take what I can get when most of what I see is V6 muscle cars and tons of nissan/Infiniti VQ's.

    • @Freddy_Confetti
      @Freddy_Confetti Рік тому +1

      @@BlackSheepRacing88 out in Cali there’s everything under the sun to run against. Problem is you gotta race at 1 am bc of traffic

  • @GBAL42022
    @GBAL42022 Рік тому

    ??

  • @anthonybull
    @anthonybull 2 місяці тому +1

    Lol of course the Durango RT will loose, anyone that knows these 2 vehicles knows this isn’t even a proper match up it has like 290whp and weighs 7200lbs. Let the Durango owner throw a hellcat supercharger or a Whipple on the 5.7 then it would be an even match 😂

    • @BlackSheepRacing88
      @BlackSheepRacing88  2 місяці тому

      True. Stock for stock the SRT 392 will pull the ST slightly but with my current mods I'm neck and neck with a hellcat/trackhawk.

    • @anthonybull
      @anthonybull 2 місяці тому +1

      @@BlackSheepRacing88 Yep the ST heavily modded will more than likely even take out a demon also

    • @BlackSheepRacing88
      @BlackSheepRacing88  2 місяці тому +1

      That would be impressive but I think the current record is mid 10's so a demon would be a stretch until aftermarket support expands more for the ST platform. Luckily it seems to be starting to take off and I've seen a pretty big expansion in aftermarket support the last 18 months.

    • @USDM_Jesus
      @USDM_Jesus 9 днів тому

      ​@@anthonybulla couple bolt ons and a tune isn't heavily modded

    • @anthonybull
      @anthonybull 9 днів тому

      @@USDM_Jesus where do you see me say that was heavily modded? I didn’t even get into detail on what i considered heavily modded so pls explain where i said that..

  • @5.7Diego
    @5.7Diego Рік тому +3

    Race a rt charger 😏🔥

    • @BlackSheepRacing88
      @BlackSheepRacing88  Рік тому

      Check out my other videos. How about an SRT8 charger? ua-cam.com/video/FXPitQm4tdE/v-deo.html

    • @Kavitashorts2023
      @Kavitashorts2023 Рік тому +3

      Still can't beat st!

    • @dino9395
      @dino9395 11 місяців тому +2

      My ST eats chargers for breakfast

    • @Kavitashorts2023
      @Kavitashorts2023 11 місяців тому +3

      Mine eats chargers for dinner!

    • @BlackSheepRacing88
      @BlackSheepRacing88  11 місяців тому +2

      The ST is about a half second quicker than a charger RT stock vs stock. With some minor boltons and a fuel change and tune my ST now beats hellcat chargers down the quarter mile.

  • @TboneSRT
    @TboneSRT 6 місяців тому +2

    the R/T durango is not fast lol. this is like comparing a hellcat durango to an ST

    • @BlackSheepRacing88
      @BlackSheepRacing88  6 місяців тому

      Mine isn't stock either. I can beat stock trackhawks down the quarter mile by a few tenths of a second so this is similar to how a hellcat would pull on an R/T.

    • @TboneSRT
      @TboneSRT 6 місяців тому +1

      @@BlackSheepRacing88 dang, all those racing vids you have and none of you racing the trackhawks. That'd be good content. The one racing the 392 charger gives me hope. Ill be running my buddies FBO explorer ST soon in my 392 charger 😂

    • @BlackSheepRacing88
      @BlackSheepRacing88  6 місяців тому +1

      @TboneSRT most of my videos are on my 93 octane tune. Now that I'm on E50 and have bigger intake and charge piping it's a whole other level. Moving back to TX at the end of this month so more racing will be happening for sure.

    • @TboneSRT
      @TboneSRT 6 місяців тому +1

      @@BlackSheepRacing88 ohh nice! Yeah he's just on pump but has the typical, tune, downpipe, intake, exhaust

    • @BlackSheepRacing88
      @BlackSheepRacing88  6 місяців тому

      @TboneSRT on 93 that should be good for a 12.0ish 1/4 mile. My best so far is 11.2 still on stock turbos. Trans is coming next then turbo upgrade. I'll be happy with it when it breaks into the 10's for a daily, then I'll start a project car shooting to break 1000HP lol.

  • @JoeG93
    @JoeG93 8 місяців тому

    R/T’s are slow tho. Ditch that 5.7 and get a 6.4 or 6.2 😂

    • @USDM_Jesus
      @USDM_Jesus 9 днів тому

      The mighty 6.2 still gets walked by the little 3.0 bolt on for bolt on