I am crying to. Its so heart breaking .knowing this monster could had given the kids to someone family. So sad i think she was given Tyle something to keep her sick. .
@@maryhodgson8604 She's truly a monster. She was evil to Joe Ryan too long before she met Chad so religion was just an excuse with her to do evil and justify it.
Thank you East Idaho New for all the audio on this trial. Without you, the public would be left in the dark. It is our right to see and hear the judicial system at work. Wouldn’t have happened without Nate Eaton.
Someone on the other side of the country was telling me the only reason they know about this case, is because of "that one reporter from Idaho". You know they're talking about Nate! And prbly saw him in Hawaii saying "Lori where are the kids?! The entire country is praying for your children" etc etc.
I agree. I thunk the reason why they didnt show this by television was because of the graphic pictures being shown but also because of how lori acred in front of the cameras when she was brought in on the charges against her.
I find it exciting, psychologically speaking, how much Lori Vallow has aged. Before her obsession with Chad and mentally ill ideas about her own grandiosity, about zombies, etc., she was an outwardly pretty woman. Obviously, the uglier her inner life became, the uglier she became on the outside. Well, the Real Zombie sits right in the middle of her soul
She really really is a different kind of evil. I’ve watched a ton of true crime. This is the only one that gave me very real nightmares. And they aren’t stopping. I can see Lori in my dreams , she has the scariest dark red eyes . My family is like stopping watching all that dark shit…. And I have started to listen to other things before bed . There is something about her that my mind can’t comprehend. I feel angry she used God to cover it up. Hurts me a lot. She represents all of sins greed, lust, jealousy, murder.. I hate her
Lori asked Chad if the Lord had orchestrated a plan for the kids. To rid of them. People can say she was a good mother before meeting Chad, but she was nonchalant about the kid’s disappearance when everyone asked for them. Even saying they were safe and happy. And what about her third husband’s death who allegedly died of a heartache. This was before meeting Chad as well. I think she has always been an entitled narcissistic manipulative individual who has a huge ego.🤔
I don't believe Joe Ryan's death was due to natural causes. I agree, she's been manipulative long before Chad came along. Lori, Chad, Alex, both Melanie's, zulema.... they are all disgusting.
That text saying she and Melanie were tired of taking care of demons.. really made me angry...demons...as if these children were suddenly not a child of God like Lori and Chad, but conveniently were taken over by demons and through the fake BS belief of a light and dark scale, they were dead anyway and a demon was in their body. Where in the Bible do you see when Jesus crossed the path of someone possessed by a demon so he killed them? Nowhere. There's a commandment about murder. I think it's clear who was taken over by demons. What a nightmare
As a matter of fact, she was not the best mother... I listened to an interview with her first cousin... she was always pretending but behind closed doors, she was annoyed often as children caused problems (according to her) and she expressed one time something to the effect that life without children is much better.
I think you meant to say heart attack but I think you're spot-on with the heartache Lori caused him lying lying and lying and lying the most despicable lie anyone can tell about a dad when it is not the truth. She even managed to gaslight and brainwash Colby, she was the actual abuser and she must have been really really talented at it because now he's 27 and he still believes that Joe Ryan sexually abused him. I'm sorry Colby but common sense tells us and your mother's soulless husk tells us that you were broken, abused and cheated of your own reality, you had your childhood defrauded just like she kept de frauding the government after she killed your most innocent and beloved siblings. Your mother was your abuser, not your stepdad
@@kelc261 I agree!!! If she has an immunity deal based off her testifying which she did NOT do, she should be charged and held accountable in my opinion!
Well said!!!! Mel B now Mel P.. Hopefully Ian P her new husband heard FBI Agent Hart testimony of Mel P . I hope he files for divorce today! And gives her a surprise Mothers Day gift!!!!!!!
He could have gone on for hours in his closing, but he packaged the evidence neatly in a bow in under 1-hr 20- mins. This is all the jury needed. Blessings to those who worked so many hours behind the scenes, along with the investigators, and prosecutors. To the families may your healing begin. 🙏🏻🪦⚖️
He's amazing he left zero room for reasonable doubt he proved this was premeditated murder. He proved she's a thief and a conniving, evil, lying, manipulative, monster who went on a killing spree based on her sick, delusional beliefs. He was so meticulous how he laid out this closing arguement. Perfection. I cant even imagine what this jury has had to see in this trial for that matter everyone in that court room. They will never be able to forget what they have heard and seen in this trial. Its heartbreaking. 💔
At least we get to see livestream verdict, it better be zoomed on her face, lets see if she thinks its funny that she is going away forever, and just before her 50th birthday.... hope she goes more insane, you know she has fomo!!
Ya, I don't think I could have looked at any of the pictures and crime scene pictures and information.. I don't think their going to be able to get Lori on the murder of Tammy.. Maybe conspiracy.. Ya know, these people are intelligent people.. What in the world made them think, they could get away with all this?? I know the narcissism ran amuck in these people but, come on!! 🤨
Thankyou Rob Wood, Linsey Blake and Rachel Smith for working so hard for Justice for innocent children and adults. Justice is on its way PG for Tylee, JJ and Tammy and eventually Charles. May they Rest In Peace. Regards from Ireland 💜💙🧡💜💙🇮🇪💚
they had 3 years. thanks Loti for trying to pretend u couldnt be prepared for trial lol gave em time to exhume Tammy and nail her for that murder too. 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Prosecutor brought out points of conspiracy I never thought of! The move to Rexburg was to murder the kids there out in middle of nowhere and hide the kids from family members! 👏 brilliant ties on every evidence and act they did! So incredibly guilty!!!!
@@christinadiaz4349 I thought about that case myself. I still can’t figure out how they came to the verdict she did. I often wonder if she would of been found guilty today. So much weight went to forensic science. The jurors seemed to reject circumstantial evidence back then. Before Casey’s case, was OJ. Very obvious who did it based on the circumstantial evidence and forensic science. Dna was brand new. The jurors didn’t understand it at all. Just wasn’t enough evidence maybe but that case turned into a racial case. The victims were lost in the hatred of race and hate for the wrong people. This case may not have a ton of forensic evidence but all the circumstantial evidence is so strong. It is literally written out for us all to see. Hopefully our understanding of criminal behavior is we need to weigh both and not one over the other.
Whoa, what an incredible presentation by attorney Rob Wood. To hear of their brutal venality and the disgusting, murderous acts they committed, all of it laid out with unerring precision and delivered in Wood's calm, measured, and unremitting tones...this was powerful and chilling stuff. Prosecutor Wood is a master of the form. His understated argument served its purpose in a way more fitting and effective than outraged castigation ever could. Kudos to him.
She is a serial killer, a demon, two of her husband died , one of them from a "heart attack", the second was shot by her brother and she made a pool party the same night of the murdered. She killed her daughter, her son and because of her, the wife of her lover. One week after she died, Lori and Chad Daybell got married and were laughing and dancing in Hawai. Case closed.
I think anger allowed me to listen to every testimony without crying….but between closing arguments and Larry playing JJs song….I’ve lost all control of my tears tonight. Praying for Justice!
Learning how two innocent children, young Tylee and little JJ, were deliberately painfully gruesomely murdered were so tragic and heartbreaking. How Charles and Tammy were deliberately murdered for insurance money were disgusting. Justice for Charles, Tammy, and especially two young children who still needed their mom's love, care, and protection.
Yet she is being charged with conspiracy 😮. She is the head of the snake and gave orders to her brother to kill. And no mention of her Killing Alex when they exhumed Tammy’s body. So he could not testify against her. 🤬
Poor Tylee, she knew her mother had gone off the deep end and planning to harm her and jj...... trying to be more pleasing to her mam, tidying her room being more amenable, telling her jj was being good and quiet, watching films etc trying to be less "trouble" to their mam...... but that witch saw those things as proof to kill them any way. Those poor poor children its so awful its heartbreaking. To be surrounded by those fanatical irrational vile people.
Me too. I don’t feel I would need to deliberate honestly. It is written out what they did. I could convict on this without the bodies of the children it’s that solid. I know they have instructions and have to deliberate. I just would love to be a fly on the wall in that jury room. I can just see them sitting there thinking what should we do to kill some time. What reasonable doubt can they possibly be discussing?
Dang, Mr. Wood. Bravo! You put this whole case in a neatly tied bow in this closing. Thank you all, for your hard work in this case. The world is behind you and all of the investigators who were part of this. Please take care of yourselves. Guilty,Guilty,Guilty! 𝗥𝗜𝗣, 𝗧𝗬𝗟𝗘𝗘,𝗝𝗝,𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗥𝗟𝗘𝗦 & 𝗧𝗔𝗠𝗠𝗬 🙏💞
No Hidden True Crime…..or Law & Crime Network…….Nate was there at the beginning. We end with East Idaho News! TY Nate and your team for covering so thoroughly! We pray for JUSTICE!🙏
Thousands of hours given in this investigation and it shows they all conspired and killed their husbands, wives, children. It sickening. Three lives snuffed out. Three lives who will never have the life they deserved. Unimaginable horror. I feel like there should be no mercy because she showed them no mercy. RIP Tyler, JJ, and Tammy.
@@loveforeignaccents I’m sure she knows that. This trial isn’t for Charles so I’m sure that was what she was thinking. Charles seems a bit forgotten in this case but he will get justice soon.
The State’s evidence, point by point, is concise and overwhelming. Fantastic job on the Prosecutor’s part. No other verdict than guilty!!! #JusticeforTyleeJJandTammy
This Idaho prosecution team is a dream🙏❤️ Thank you Nate and all of the East Idaho news team for staying with this case and bringing the trial to the public! You all are just wonderful !! God Bless you all! And all the wonderful people of Idaho! I have fallen in live with this State❤️🙏 I don't need to hope these evildoers will be held accountable, I already know they will! On Earth and then for eternity! Rest now Joseph, Charles, Tammy, Tylee and JJ...and may the Lord bring peace upon the hearts of all the loved and friends affected by these senseless evil acts...Gods got this!🙏❤️
Nate you are a STAR ⭐️ thank you for all these audio files! I relied on yours over anyone else as you were more timely! Great job covering this horrible trial! We are all gonna need therapy for depression after this is over! 😩
OMG yes she looks just like the lion her raggedy hair her face. It unbelievable look alike .her hair is thick and some what curly .but at her age it needs to be out of her face it makes her look bad..
I still question Alex’s death. It’s too much of a coincide that he died just before the sh*t was gonna hit the fan. Getting rid of the hit man, especially with the timing, would totally fit their m.o. How long could Lori string him along with the promise of sharing her “wisdom” with him? Was his body exhumed and autopsied?
Major thanks to Rob Wood, Lindsey Blake and Rachel Smith for all their hard work in this case! Even respect to the jury who were able to sit through, listen to and see the images of this horrific crime! It would have definitely been a sad and difficult case to sit through! Really hoping that justice is served for Tylee, JJ, Charles and Tammy and this awful evil demon of a human being is sentenced to life in prison! All the evidence they have gathered and presented is overwhelming and should be more than enough to convict her! Praying that the jury follow through with the words that Rob has given them, ‘You must convict her’, and give the court a guilty verdict.
It’s so hard to believe that a mother would be complicit in her children’s murders and yet they are dead. She didn’t protect them and then lied. She needs to be held accountable for that. And the money…so evident It’s up to the jury now, I’m glad it’s not me making that judgement
Oh I would not have any problem or issue making that judgment. Not at all. That’s for sure. I’m happy to, actually. Poor Tylee, JJ,Charles and Tammy. 💞🙏 Guilty, Guilty, Guilty!!!!!
Good closing by Mr Woods. I listened really hard when he was going through the Jury Instructions about the Conspiracy and Murders. There is no doubt she’s guilty.
I find it quite simple. Alex had NO reason to kill Charles, Tylee, JJ, or Tammy. No reason whatsoever. He had nothing to gain from any of them. Lori asked him to do it. That is the only explanation. There is no other explanation.
They thought they were so smart, text messages and e_mails are a big part of what is sending her to prison, hopefully for life with no chance for parole of any kind. Praying for that. 😊😊
The jury only needs to ask themselves one question: *What did Lori do when her two children went missing? the answer to that leads to all the evidence of her guilt.* It will be devastating if the jury finds her innocent or can't come to an agreement! The woman is diabolical!
I have never listened to a closing argument that has been so absolutely full circle and presented as Mr. Wood did that shed the light of truth so brightly on this case as if it was blinding. Absolutely no doubts. And I now understand it completely. Thank you, Mr. Wood for being the most awesome advocate for Tammy, JJ, and Tylie. God bless you!
Her sister said it best, "you were dancing on a beach in hawaii while your kids were rotting in the cold ground." Lori "that was months later, what am I not supposed to move on?" Disgusting.
@@dawnb3194 man, what a fucked up family. I feel bad for the normal siblings. Obviously, even the parents are messed up if they laughed when Alex would pretend to, uh, "simulate sex" with Lori in front of them. Smh.
@@HomewardBound961 well we know they attempted to k!ll Brandon and Melanie P’s children were on there. And I’m sorry but I know they ruled Alex’s death natural but NO ONE can make me believe he was not murdered… dying literally the day after Tammy’s body was exhumed and shortly after he said to Zulema he is scared Lori and Chad are going to make him there fall guy. No way it was natural
Any decent human could not do to a dog what these filthy animals did to Tylee and JJ. The horror and utter fear that these two little people went through, is unimaginable . Too many adults knew what their fate was going to be, and not one of them stood up to protect these innocents. All in the name of “ religion”. I only hope each and every guilty adult that stood by and did nothing, have the worst miserable lives possible. Rot in hell all of you. Fly high Tylee, JJ, Charles and Tammy. 💔💔💔💔
The prosecution did a fantastic job ! What an amazing closing argument. Lets hope the Jury gets it right and finds her guilty on all charges and that she rots in a jail cell for the rest of her pathetic life.
Very good and precise closing argument; well done! No doubt in my mind she's guilty. Hope the jury makes the right decision and reaches their verdict tomorrow.
I’m so mind blown ( still) that they actually thought they would get away with killing this many people without any consequences at all. Ok so the kids are dark & evil so let’s have them killed? No one will ever notice? Oh and our spouses can go to, and no one should notice at all …. Like really? Did you ever think that PEOPLE LOVED THEM. Ugh this is just so bizarre to me….
Prosecution did a wonderful job ! Laying out all the evidence ! 👏🏻🙏Thank you for all the hardwork of the police , FBI and all involved ! Especially to Kay and Larry pushing to have Lori and Chad investigated to find JJ and Tylee and Suspect Charles death was at hands of them too! God bless and know Justice will be served ! 🙏🙏🫶🙏🙏
Here's a thought. If Lori was telling everyone that her kids were fine and safe somewhere, then why was she keeping their money for herself and not sending even a part of it to whomever was supposed to be taking care of the kids? And, why was there not one iota of her speaking to protect her kids from any of the 'plans Chad had'? So there's no caught red handed evidence but there is also not 'please don't hurt my kids' evidence either.
I know she was upset after the defense arguments. Was Lori at all impacted by the closing arguments from the state? Or was it only that they impugned Chad that she showed any emotions?
Right? If that was the reason, it shows that Lori still firmly believes in this crap! It's hard to imagine that level of delusion!!!! Perhaps she believes because she needs to believe it because if it's not true she in a crap heep of trouble both on Earth and in the hereafter. SMH
We need to start recognising the danger signs of narcissistic behaviours in parents. Lori murdered her children, but her narcissism seems indicated before that: i think she inhabited the social role of loving mother because it brought her a level of recognition, admiration, and even sanctity.
HOW could anyone toeture and kill children? My youngest daughter is on the autism spectrum and Tylee resembled my oldest daughter. This case has horrified me from the beginning. First of all, killing Charles to be with Chad?🤢 And the disturbing texts between them. Ugh. But to kill those beautiful kids, especially in the horrific mamor they did, is the worst thing imaginable. Lori makes Casey Anthony look sweet. Then to kill Tammy so they could be married was unbelievable. All that, but to believe that Jesus was in favor of all of this, is the most vile thought they conjured up. I pray both of them get full justice for their acts.
If lori died in 2018 or early 2019, 4 lives would be spared…5 including Alex. She’s connected to every death. They didn’t kill chads kids cuz they weren’t “obstacles.” Only her children were. If she was gone, they would all be alive; that’s how you know it was truly loris fault and not just chads.
I listened like a juror would on this case. I didn’t miss much. It seemed pretty obvious she was guilty early in the trial. For me, the texting between everyone, is what brought me to guilty with a reasonable doubt. I’m not sure when we get to Charles. If he is watching I’m sure he wouldn’t care if we got to his trial at all. Tammy feels the same way I’m sure. They want verdicts for the children over and above anything else. That is what good parents do. Protect their children. I can picture Tammy, Charles, JJ and Tylee right now. They won’t celebrate the convictions per say, but I see hugs and kisses with a huge sigh relief on all their faces. I see them satisfied but grieving for the the lost souls of three people, Alex, Chad, Lori, they once loved very much.
The irony here is amazing, in 2018 Alex Cox gets into an altercation with Joseph Ryan allegedly because of him being an abusive person towards Tylee Ryan. Flash Forward less than two years later and he's dismembering and burning her body.
The horrific way that seven year old child died, while no doubt the adult watched . Burn in hell, nothing else is punishment enough. I’m hoping for some jailhouse justice.
What I can't piece together is what happened to Tylee? Did Chad shoot her like the raccoon he alluded to? Or did Alex kill her in the early morning hours at the apartment then take her to Chad's a few hours later? If Alex transported poor Tylee's body wouldn't her blood have been discovered? Were his vehicles ever checked?
Alex could not carry Tylee alone. He would have needed help. I doubt he butchered her at his place and took her to Chad's house in pieces. There would have been lots of blood wherever this horrible crime happened.
She was. People in interviews have said they had a very strange, and far too close, relationship. I think Alex was mesmerized by Lori, and Lori knew that and used his disability and loyalty to her benefit. I’d love to know how Joe Ryan, and loris sister, died.
He was said to have the decision making skills of a 16 year old after a brain injury in a vehicle crash. He was possibly vulnerable to his sister’s manipulation - another easy victim.
Thank you Nate & crew for your great reporting & footage and everything else. Great job 👏. I’m currently listening to the defense attorney…holy cow, he is so bad. I can’t wait to listen to the prosecutor’s arguments. Thanks again…
Praying with all asking GOD through his Son JESUS for justice for all who lost their lives at the hands of this woman lorie Daybell and asking for other's. Who had part in this brought to justice.thank you amen.
These people are so disgusting. What they did to Tylee in particular is beyond comprehension. And why? Because she was a typical teen who "didn't like Chad". 🤬
I think Chad took advantage of an already struggling Lori (mental health wise) her religious beliefs were getting deeper just before she met Chad. He saw the opportunity to get what he wanted. He didn’t believe a word about all of these other worlds and so forth. He just wanted to play along with the fantasy to get his wicked way with Lori. She wasn’t dumb tho, she agreed to it all. It all went too far.
JJ. First they took his daddy. Then his dog. Then his sister. Then his life. She would have been so very mean to him in those final weeks. Poor sweet prince. Angels sing thee to thy rest.
When kids go missing and their parents or guardians don’t report them missing, I pray we use good logic to forensic evidence and circumstantial evidence to this case and in the future. Praying for a guilty verdict and remembering little Caylee Anthony.
I've heard it all. For almost 4 years. Yet I'm still crying at closing arguments. It's so tragic
I'm with you Jamy. This is the most horrific case I've ever heard of. It's sad beyond belief.
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I am crying to. Its so heart breaking .knowing this monster could had given the kids to someone family. So sad i think she was given Tyle something to keep her sick. .
@@maryhodgson8604 She's truly a monster. She was evil to Joe Ryan too long before she met Chad so religion was just an excuse with her to do evil and justify it.
@@maryhodgson8604 yes but then her little greedy hands couldn’t have gotten ahold of that $.
Thank you East Idaho New for all the audio on this trial. Without you, the public would be left in the dark.
It is our right to see and hear the judicial system at work. Wouldn’t have happened without Nate Eaton.
Nate is the GOAT! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Someone on the other side of the country was telling me the only reason they know about this case, is because of "that one reporter from Idaho".
You know they're talking about Nate! And prbly saw him in Hawaii saying "Lori where are the kids?! The entire country is praying for your children" etc etc.
I agree. I thunk the reason why they didnt show this by television was because of the graphic pictures being shown but also because of how lori acred in front of the cameras when she was brought in on the charges against her.
Now we wait to see who the jury believes. We will know soon. Guilty or not guilty. I Don’t believe she’s innocent.
GUILTY!!! What a disgusting monster.
I find it exciting, psychologically speaking, how much Lori Vallow has aged. Before her obsession with Chad and mentally ill ideas about her own grandiosity, about zombies, etc., she was an outwardly pretty woman. Obviously, the uglier her inner life became, the uglier she became on the outside.
Well, the Real Zombie sits right in the middle of her soul
@@niagaranovalis3408 The flower fades with age anyway. All that matters is who you are inside. If you can live with yourself is more important.
She really really is a different kind of evil. I’ve watched a ton of true crime. This is the only one that gave me very real nightmares. And they aren’t stopping. I can see Lori in my dreams , she has the scariest dark red eyes . My family is like stopping watching all that dark shit…. And I have started to listen to other things before bed . There is something about her that my mind can’t comprehend. I feel angry she used God to cover it up. Hurts me a lot. She represents all of sins greed, lust, jealousy, murder.. I hate her
Lori asked Chad if the Lord had orchestrated a plan for the kids. To rid of them. People can say she was a good mother before meeting Chad, but she was nonchalant about the kid’s disappearance when everyone asked for them. Even saying they were safe and happy. And what about her third husband’s death who allegedly died of a heartache. This was before meeting Chad as well. I think she has always been an entitled narcissistic manipulative individual who has a huge ego.🤔
I don't believe Joe Ryan's death was due to natural causes. I agree, she's been manipulative long before Chad came along. Lori, Chad, Alex, both Melanie's, zulema.... they are all disgusting.
Spot on and I agree
That text saying she and Melanie were tired of taking care of demons.. really made me angry...demons...as if these children were suddenly not a child of God like Lori and Chad, but conveniently were taken over by demons and through the fake BS belief of a light and dark scale, they were dead anyway and a demon was in their body. Where in the Bible do you see when Jesus crossed the path of someone possessed by a demon so he killed them? Nowhere. There's a commandment about murder. I think it's clear who was taken over by demons. What a nightmare
As a matter of fact, she was not the best mother... I listened to an interview with her first cousin... she was always pretending but behind closed doors, she was annoyed often as children caused problems (according to her) and she expressed one time something to the effect that life without children is much better.
I think you meant to say heart attack but I think you're spot-on with the heartache Lori caused him lying lying and lying and lying the most despicable lie anyone can tell about a dad when it is not the truth.
She even managed to gaslight and brainwash Colby, she was the actual abuser and she must have been really really talented at it because now he's 27 and he still believes that Joe Ryan sexually abused him.
I'm sorry Colby but common sense tells us and your mother's soulless husk tells us that you were broken, abused and cheated of your own reality, you had your childhood defrauded just like she kept de frauding the government after she killed your most innocent and beloved siblings.
Your mother was your abuser, not your stepdad
Melanie B needs to face charges too and I hope her children are far away from her or they’d be dead too.
Agreed 💯
Brandon should have them.
It sucks she isn't held accountable... they must have texts showing she was involved... and what a coward to not testify 😑
@@kelc261 I agree!!! If she has an immunity deal based off her testifying which she did NOT do, she should be charged and held accountable in my opinion!
Well said!!!! Mel B now Mel P..
Hopefully Ian P her new husband heard FBI Agent Hart testimony of Mel P . I hope he files for divorce today! And gives her a surprise Mothers Day gift!!!!!!!
Rob Wood’s closing argument is absolutely brilliant. He tied all the evidence together so neatly that there’s no room for reasonable doubt.
He could have gone on for hours in his closing, but he packaged the evidence neatly in a bow in under 1-hr 20- mins. This is all the jury needed.
Blessings to those who worked so many hours behind the scenes, along with the investigators, and prosecutors. To the families may your healing begin.
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@@blabl590 🤣🤣🤦♀️
@@blabl590 don’t act stupid
He's amazing he left zero room for reasonable doubt he proved this was premeditated murder. He proved she's a thief and a conniving, evil, lying, manipulative, monster who went on a killing spree based on her sick, delusional beliefs. He was so meticulous how he laid out this closing arguement. Perfection. I cant even imagine what this jury has had to see in this trial for that matter everyone in that court room. They will never be able to forget what they have heard and seen in this trial. Its heartbreaking. 💔
@@blabl590 maybe a few
Taken in totality guilty on all counts
There’s just no way that she can’t be found not guilty. She’s the common denominator.
Lori doesn't want the death penalty OH NO, yet she gave it to her children, I wish I could see her face during these closing arguments.
Me too. But we will get to see her face when the verdict comes down.
Do you guys think we will see footage inside the court room in a few years? I don’t want to see the evidence just her face.
At least we get to see livestream verdict, it better be zoomed on her face, lets see if she thinks its funny that she is going away forever, and just before her 50th birthday.... hope she goes more insane, you know she has fomo!!
She's not capable of feeling guilt.
@@joycemeadows1821 she will eventually ,after a few years, when no one wants any contact with her.
God bless the jury for being strong individuals and listening to the most difficult, horrific, disturbing, emotional crime.
Yes, I couldn’t agree with you more!
Ya, I don't think I could have looked at any of the pictures and crime scene pictures and information.. I don't think their going to be able to get Lori on the murder of Tammy.. Maybe conspiracy.. Ya know, these people are intelligent people.. What in the world made them think, they could get away with all this?? I know the narcissism ran amuck in these people but, come on!! 🤨
@@beckylynn209 I'm as baffled as you!! Someone's going to notice their absence!
@Becky Lynn
Thankfully, Conspiracy to murder has the same sentencing> life in prison (x 3).
I am in Cleveland, Ohio.
Beyond a reasonable doubt. Proven. Great job prosecution. Justice for all victims jurors🙏🙏🙏🙏
Indeed. Actually proven beyond any doubt, imo. So horrific!
Lol
Her face is melting
Hell will welcome Lori, Chad and Alex.....I pray, Tylee, J.J. and Tammy can rest in heavenly peace. My heart goes out to all who loved them.
@@mimic7848 hell doesn’t even want them now, they actually failed... Thank God!!
Thankyou Rob Wood, Linsey Blake and Rachel Smith for working so hard for Justice for innocent children and adults. Justice is on its way PG for Tylee, JJ and Tammy and eventually Charles. May they Rest In Peace. Regards from Ireland 💜💙🧡💜💙🇮🇪💚
This case is universal. Because mothers everywhere will never understand
@Frenchblue8 Agree, but you don't have to be a mother to know what these psychopaths done was pure evil, and wrong. Regards from Ireland 🇮🇪
The team did an incredible job!
@@bellasmini The really did.... They should be proud and have even more confidence to go after Chad for the DP. Regards from Ireland 🇮🇪
It blows me away that these people thought theyd acually get away with all this!!!!!!!
They didn't have 2 brain cells between them. They are all evil morons
Right?! Completely delusional.
They thought God was on their side. Wrong God, I'd say.
Exactly! As a true crime junkie I can say they made every mistake they could possibly make. Thank God they were so dumb.
@@Mamabear1320-h4k they really were terrible criminals. Thank god!!!
The investigation was so thorough. Imagine all the information they’ve gathered and put together, incredible
True, the investigators did a great job. The Prosecution did a marvelous job.
Imagine what more they will present at Chad’s trial. There will be more digital evidence from his phone, and vehicle GPS.
they had 3 years. thanks Loti for trying to pretend u couldnt be prepared for trial lol gave em time to exhume Tammy and nail her for that murder too. 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Ohhhhh SHE’S DONE!! Great closing for the Prosecution! Excellent job, Rob Wood! 👍❤️👍
She is guilty nobody could possibly say not guilty
All I can think of is Casey Anthony case. 🙏🏼 praying she is found guilty.
Christina me too. I though Casey Anthony was a sure verdict, so I’m waiting anxiously for this verdict!
Prosecutor brought out points of conspiracy I never thought of! The move to Rexburg was to murder the kids there out in middle of nowhere and hide the kids from family members!
👏 brilliant ties on every evidence and act they did!
So incredibly guilty!!!!
@@christinadiaz4349 I thought about that case myself. I still can’t figure out how they came to the verdict she did. I often wonder if she would of been found guilty today. So much weight went to forensic science. The jurors seemed to reject circumstantial evidence back then. Before Casey’s case, was OJ. Very obvious who did it based on the circumstantial evidence and forensic science. Dna was brand new. The jurors didn’t understand it at all. Just wasn’t enough evidence maybe but that case turned into a racial case. The victims were lost in the hatred of race and hate for the wrong people. This case may not have a ton of forensic evidence but all the circumstantial evidence is so strong. It is literally written out for us all to see. Hopefully our understanding of criminal behavior is we need to weigh both and not one over the other.
@@christinadiaz4349we got Letecia, its Loris turn!🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Whoa, what an incredible presentation by attorney Rob Wood. To hear of their brutal venality and the disgusting, murderous acts they committed, all of it laid out with unerring precision and delivered in Wood's calm, measured, and unremitting tones...this was powerful and chilling stuff. Prosecutor Wood is a master of the form. His understated argument served its purpose in a way more fitting and effective than outraged castigation ever could. Kudos to him.
His closing was masterful. He included an accurate timeline and made sure to highlight key points along the way.
She is a serial killer, a demon, two of her husband died , one of them from a "heart attack", the second was shot by her brother and she made a pool party the same night of the murdered. She killed her daughter, her son and because of her, the wife of her lover. One week after she died, Lori and Chad Daybell got married and were laughing and dancing in Hawai. Case closed.
I think anger allowed me to listen to every testimony without crying….but between closing arguments and Larry playing JJs song….I’ve lost all control of my tears tonight. Praying for Justice!
Yes, playing that song went right to my heart. It is my 4 yr old grandsons favorite song I’m still crying. #justiceforjjtyleetammyandcharles 💙💜💛🤍
Yes let us all say a prayer for justice tonight.GOD BLESS EVERBODY. .
@@maryhodgson8604 yes absolutely done🙏🏼
Learning how two innocent children, young Tylee and little JJ, were deliberately painfully gruesomely murdered were so tragic and heartbreaking. How Charles and Tammy were deliberately murdered for insurance money were disgusting.
Justice for Charles, Tammy, and especially two young children who still needed their mom's love, care, and protection.
Unfortunately their so called Mom was only interested in laying on her back for her sicko cult monster
Yet she is being charged with conspiracy 😮. She is the head of the snake and gave orders to her brother to kill. And no mention of her Killing Alex when they exhumed Tammy’s body. So he could not testify against her. 🤬
She wasn't a mother
This is one of the most disturbing cases I’ve ever heard in my life… truly horrific 😢
She only ever cried for Chad...this whole dang trial... despicable
I’m curious as to how many murders they actually committed besides JJ, Tylee, Tammy, Charles? They are serial killers. Sick and twisted!
Possibly Chud’s neighbor. And probably Joseph Ryan (though I think that was before she met Chad)
And how many more there would be if not for Kay and Larry. I hope they find peace and justice is served in this case
Probably Joseph Ryan which proves she is the ringleader because she has not yet met Daybell and her brother.
It’s possibly it all began with her sister and that’s where she and Alex learned it
Probably countless
Poor Tylee, she knew her mother had gone off the deep end and planning to harm her and jj...... trying to be more pleasing to her mam, tidying her room being more amenable, telling her jj was being good and quiet, watching films etc trying to be less "trouble" to their mam...... but that witch saw those things as proof to kill them any way. Those poor poor children its so awful its heartbreaking. To be surrounded by those fanatical irrational vile people.
Agreed.
😭 she was - poor girl - so incredibly sad
The Prosecutor did a great job laying out the details for the Closing Arguments…👏🏾👍🏾❤️
They did way better job in chads
Get it Rob wood! Love all of their incredible hard work. Justice for allllllllll involved
I’m already bawling. God bless every single victim and this jury. 🙏♥️
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻💔💔
Clear, plausible, and probable timeline and facts; no doubt from this potential juror. I’d definitely be voting guilty on all counts.
Me too. I don’t feel I would need to deliberate honestly. It is written out what they did. I could convict on this without the bodies of the children it’s that solid. I know they have instructions and have to deliberate. I just would love to be a fly on the wall in that jury room. I can just see them sitting there thinking what should we do to kill some time. What reasonable doubt can they possibly be discussing?
Dang, Mr. Wood. Bravo! You put this whole case in a neatly tied bow in this closing. Thank you all, for your hard work in this case. The world is behind you and all of the investigators who were part of this. Please take care of yourselves. Guilty,Guilty,Guilty!
𝗥𝗜𝗣, 𝗧𝗬𝗟𝗘𝗘,𝗝𝗝,𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗥𝗟𝗘𝗦 & 𝗧𝗔𝗠𝗠𝗬 🙏💞
No Hidden True Crime…..or Law & Crime Network…….Nate was there at the beginning. We end with East Idaho News! TY Nate and your team for covering so thoroughly! We pray for JUSTICE!🙏
Incredible closing 😭 I pray justice is swift and harsh.
This Prosecutor did a fantastic job!!! He left no stone unturned. I am praying for justice for Charles, Tammy, Tylee and JJ ..May they all RIP.
Nate thank you for being there and reporting on this heart wrenching trial.
Thousands of hours given in this investigation and it shows they all conspired and killed their husbands, wives, children. It sickening. Three lives snuffed out. Three lives who will never have the life they deserved. Unimaginable horror. I feel like there should be no mercy because she showed them no mercy. RIP Tyler, JJ, and Tammy.
Four lives; you forgot Charles.
@@loveforeignaccents I’m sure she knows that. This trial isn’t for Charles so I’m sure that was what she was thinking. Charles seems a bit forgotten in this case but he will get justice soon.
Four lives not three.
and Charles Vallow, who tried to protect his kids but no one listened!
Four lives. Charles, Tylee, JJ, Tammy
The State’s evidence, point by point, is concise and overwhelming. Fantastic job on the Prosecutor’s part. No other verdict than guilty!!! #JusticeforTyleeJJandTammy
And Charles
This Idaho prosecution team is a dream🙏❤️
Thank you Nate and all of the East Idaho news team for staying with this case and bringing the trial to the public! You all are just wonderful !! God Bless you all! And all the wonderful people of Idaho! I have fallen in live with this State❤️🙏
I don't need to hope these evildoers will be held accountable, I already know they will! On Earth and then for eternity!
Rest now Joseph, Charles, Tammy, Tylee and JJ...and may the Lord bring peace upon the hearts of all the loved and friends affected by these senseless evil acts...Gods got this!🙏❤️
Amazing job by the Prosecutor. Great closing statement.
Nate you are a STAR ⭐️ thank you for all these audio files! I relied on yours over anyone else as you were more timely! Great job covering this horrible trial! We are all gonna need therapy for depression after this is over! 😩
This picture of lori looks like tbe cowardly lion from wizard of oz
It does...
It does
So true!!Except all her fake blonde is gone now and she can look forward to the grey!
OMG yes she looks just like the lion her raggedy hair her face. It unbelievable look alike .her hair is thick and some what curly .but at her age it needs to be out of her face it makes her look bad..
😅😅😅😅
Im furious Alex died and doesnt have to stand trial for the kids & Charles
He's roasting in hell and that makes me happy. RIP angel's 🕊️♥️
He's damned forever
I still question Alex’s death. It’s too much of a coincide that he died just before the sh*t was gonna hit the fan. Getting rid of the hit man, especially with the timing, would totally fit their m.o. How long could Lori string him along with the promise of sharing her “wisdom” with him? Was his body exhumed and autopsied?
What an absolute monster he was. A deranged evil man.
@@cydkriletich6538 he was cremated which is actually against their cult church's beliefs, how convenient he can't be autopsied
Good job, Rob Wood, and the rest of the prosecution..
Probably the easiest, most straight forward closing he’s ever had to do. The evidence is so incontrovertible.
Wish we could have seen the closing arguments
Major thanks to Rob Wood, Lindsey Blake and Rachel Smith for all their hard work in this case! Even respect to the jury who were able to sit through, listen to and see the images of this horrific crime! It would have definitely been a sad and difficult case to sit through! Really hoping that justice is served for Tylee, JJ, Charles and Tammy and this awful evil demon of a human being is sentenced to life in prison! All the evidence they have gathered and presented is overwhelming and should be more than enough to convict her! Praying that the jury follow through with the words that Rob has given them, ‘You must convict her’, and give the court a guilty verdict.
It’s so hard to believe that a mother would be complicit in her children’s murders and yet they are dead. She didn’t protect them and then lied.
She needs to be held accountable for that. And the money…so evident
It’s up to the jury now, I’m glad it’s not me making that judgement
Tylee wants the world to know. Look up Rev Donna Seraphina here on you tube. She located kids 6 months before cops did please She tells the real truth
She didn't protect them because she's the one who orchestrated it! Alex idolized Lori, he doesn't touch the kids except on Lori's say so.
Oh I would not have any problem or issue making that judgment. Not at all. That’s for sure. I’m happy to, actually.
Poor Tylee, JJ,Charles and Tammy. 💞🙏
Guilty, Guilty, Guilty!!!!!
it's so hard to believe a mother would consider her kids obstacles to get rid of so she can enjoy your life
“An abundance of malice”
Good closing by Mr Woods. I listened really hard when he was going through the Jury Instructions about the Conspiracy and Murders. There is no doubt she’s guilty.
Absolutely evil lady ment for these murders to happen. She encouraged all of this 😢😢
It’s significant in the plan that Tylee is murdered first - if the other way around, Lori would have had to explain JJ’s absence to Tylee.
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I find it quite simple. Alex had NO reason to kill Charles, Tylee, JJ, or Tammy. No reason whatsoever. He had nothing to gain from any of them. Lori asked him to do it. That is the only explanation. There is no other explanation.
No Lori-no murders.
Alex was brainwashed. I wonder when the penny dropped for him? Did he know they would kill him? (I firmly believe they did).
Sooooo powerful. Rob, your delivery was amazing 👏
They thought they were so smart, text messages and e_mails are a big part of what is sending her to prison, hopefully for life with no chance for parole of any kind. Praying for that. 😊😊
Didn't they buy the burner phones with their own credit cards
They were actually so dumb and left themselves wide open - they seemingly had little insight into modern communications.
@@dawnb3194Yes & they considered themselves SO intuitive & smarter than others!?!
The jury only needs to ask themselves one question: *What did Lori do when her two children went missing? the answer to that leads to all the evidence of her guilt.*
It will be devastating if the jury finds her innocent or can't come to an agreement! The woman is diabolical!
What could possibly be taking this jury so long to claim Lori guilty? There should be no confusion as to her guilt.
The punishment is life so I'm sure they don't want to give some people the thought that they didn't take this extremely serious.
I will keep saying that if anyone would have paid attention to Charles, this may never have happened.
he should have fled with the children
Prayers for justice ⚖ ❤❤ 💙💙
Prayers she's guilty 🙏
Great work prosecution 😊
Your prayer will come true!
My heart hurts for Chad's children. It may take time but they will come to know and understand the truth. That will be a horrible moment for them. 😢
I wouldn't be too sure about Chad's childrens beliefs as they might be on the crazy train with their murdering Dad!
They could have displayed zombie symptoms at any time..
How can they not know that he killed their mother
If they cannot concede to the truth after this trial I doubt they ever will believe their father is the man they never actually knew.
They r brainwashed. Wonder if they will ever realize what a loser their dad really is.
For me, all proved beyond a reasonable doubt. Justice for Charles (in the next trial), Tylee, JJ and Tammy.
I have never listened to a closing argument that has been so absolutely full circle and presented as Mr. Wood did that shed the light of truth so brightly on this case as if it was blinding. Absolutely no doubts. And I now understand it completely. Thank you, Mr. Wood for being the most awesome advocate for Tammy, JJ, and Tylie. God bless you!
Her sister said it best, "you were dancing on a beach in hawaii while your kids were rotting in the cold ground."
Lori "that was months later, what am I not supposed to move on?"
Disgusting.
Two months, just two.
Her older sister Stacey was also killed in suspicious circumstances if you listen to podcast ‘Mormon Stories’ featuring Lori’s cousin.
@@dawnb3194 huh, I haven't heard that. Was it Stacey Cox or?
@@deepstatethrombosis yes Lori’s elder sister Stacey (presumably Cox at some time/maiden name).
@@dawnb3194 man, what a fucked up family. I feel bad for the normal siblings. Obviously, even the parents are messed up if they laughed when Alex would pretend to, uh, "simulate sex" with Lori in front of them. Smh.
I believe Chad would have been another target of her’s later in life, for another payout of insurance money.
I wonder just how many others would have ended up on their
dark list, had they not been stopped.
@@HomewardBound961 well we know they attempted to k!ll Brandon and Melanie P’s children were on there. And I’m sorry but I know they ruled Alex’s death natural but NO ONE can make me believe he was not murdered… dying literally the day after Tammy’s body was exhumed and shortly after he said to Zulema he is scared Lori and Chad are going to make him there fall guy. No way it was natural
For sure. She would have tired of him within the year had they not been arrested.
Absolutely! The shine would wear off pretty quick and he'd be next.
If he was smart, he’d never agree to getting life insurance. But I don’t think he’s that smart LOL. But consequences will catch up with Chad
Great job putting all the evidence into order.
Rob Wood knocked it out of the park!!
He sure did!
If they don’t find this B______ guilty, I will have lost all faith in our judicial system. UGH! Horrible how these poor people died😭😭😭
If they don't find her guilty there is no place in the world that would be safe for her
Any decent human could not do to a dog what these filthy animals did to Tylee and JJ. The horror and utter fear that these two little people went through, is unimaginable . Too many adults knew what their fate was going to be, and not one of them stood up to protect these innocents. All in the name of “ religion”. I only hope each and every guilty adult that stood by and did nothing, have the worst miserable lives possible. Rot in hell all of you. Fly high Tylee, JJ, Charles and Tammy. 💔💔💔💔
Excellent job, Rob!
Interesting how she assumed no one would ever notice that the kids were missing.
The prosecution did a fantastic job ! What an amazing closing argument. Lets hope the Jury gets it right and finds her guilty on all charges and that she rots in a jail cell for the rest of her pathetic life.
Unforgivable!
Very good and precise closing argument; well done!
No doubt in my mind she's guilty.
Hope the jury makes the right decision and reaches their verdict tomorrow.
No matter what happens to her Tylee, JJ and Tammy are still gone! Ron Wood, you did great dude!!! Thank you, thank you!!❤
I’m so mind blown ( still) that they actually thought they would get away with killing this many people without any consequences at all. Ok so the kids are dark & evil so let’s have them killed? No one will ever notice? Oh and our spouses can go to, and no one should notice at all …. Like really? Did you ever think that PEOPLE LOVED THEM. Ugh this is just so bizarre to me….
This is so sickening. How could they do this
Prosecution did a wonderful job ! Laying out all the evidence ! 👏🏻🙏Thank you for all the hardwork of the police , FBI and all involved ! Especially to Kay and Larry pushing to have Lori and Chad investigated to find JJ and Tylee and Suspect Charles death was at hands of them too! God bless and know Justice will be served ! 🙏🙏🫶🙏🙏
Here's a thought. If Lori was telling everyone that her kids were fine and safe somewhere, then why was she keeping their money for herself and not sending even a part of it to whomever was supposed to be taking care of the kids?
And, why was there not one iota of her speaking to protect her kids from any of the 'plans Chad had'?
So there's no caught red handed evidence but there is also not 'please don't hurt my kids' evidence either.
I know she was upset after the defense arguments. Was Lori at all impacted by the closing arguments from the state? Or was it only that they impugned Chad that she showed any emotions?
Right? If that was the reason, it shows that Lori still firmly believes in this crap! It's hard to imagine that level of delusion!!!! Perhaps she believes because she needs to believe it because if it's not true she in a crap heep of trouble both on Earth and in the hereafter. SMH
My thoughts exactly!
I can't believe Defense didn't tell her what they were going to say....wouldn't that be illegal??
Prayers the all the victims
We need to start recognising the danger signs of narcissistic behaviours in parents. Lori murdered her children, but her narcissism seems indicated before that: i think she inhabited the social role of loving mother because it brought her a level of recognition, admiration, and even sanctity.
HOW could anyone toeture and kill children? My youngest daughter is on the autism spectrum and Tylee resembled my oldest daughter. This case has horrified me from the beginning. First of all, killing Charles to be with Chad?🤢 And the disturbing texts between them. Ugh. But to kill those beautiful kids, especially in the horrific mamor they did, is the worst thing imaginable. Lori makes Casey Anthony look sweet. Then to kill Tammy so they could be married was unbelievable. All that, but to believe that Jesus was in favor of all of this, is the most vile thought they conjured up. I pray both of them get full justice for their acts.
Id be in tears sitting in the court room. This is heart wrenching
Why the jury deliberated for so long?! It’s obvious she’s guilty!
If lori died in 2018 or early 2019, 4 lives would be spared…5 including Alex. She’s connected to every death. They didn’t kill chads kids cuz they weren’t “obstacles.” Only her children were. If she was gone, they would all be alive; that’s how you know it was truly loris fault and not just chads.
Also Chad's kids were not getting social security benefits. There was no profit from their deaths
@@lisapreston918 yes great point!
I listened like a juror would on this case. I didn’t miss much. It seemed pretty obvious she was guilty early in the trial. For me, the texting between everyone, is what brought me to guilty with a reasonable doubt. I’m not sure when we get to Charles. If he is watching I’m sure he wouldn’t care if we got to his trial at all. Tammy feels the same way I’m sure. They want verdicts for the children over and above anything else. That is what good parents do. Protect their children. I can picture Tammy, Charles, JJ and Tylee right now. They won’t celebrate the convictions per say, but I see hugs and kisses with a huge sigh relief on all their faces. I see them satisfied but grieving for the the lost souls of three people, Alex, Chad, Lori, they once loved very much.
The irony here is amazing, in 2018 Alex Cox gets into an altercation with Joseph Ryan allegedly because of him being an abusive person towards Tylee Ryan. Flash Forward less than two years later and he's dismembering and burning her body.
Command since is that there is no other option but to find her guilty of all charges, simple as that. 😮😮😮
ThankYou NATE EATON #EAST IDAHO NEWS 📰 and FAMILY.
Brilliant closing argument👏👏👏
The horrific way that seven year old child died, while no doubt the adult watched . Burn in hell, nothing else is punishment enough. I’m hoping for some jailhouse justice.
What I can't piece together is what happened to Tylee? Did Chad shoot her like the raccoon he alluded to? Or did Alex kill her in the early morning hours at the apartment then take her to Chad's a few hours later? If Alex transported poor Tylee's body wouldn't her blood have been discovered? Were his vehicles ever checked?
Great question! I'd like to think they ended her life quickly before the diabolical treatment!
@@bonnienelson7373 Tylee WAS the raccoon, if you get my drift. Sick beyond words.
Alex could not carry Tylee alone. He would have needed help. I doubt he butchered her at his place and took her to Chad's house in pieces. There would have been lots of blood wherever this horrible crime happened.
let’s GOOOOO!!! ⚖️👨⚖️ 🔥
She must have been brainwashing Alex for along time,he had nothing to gain in this crazy plot that I can see
She was. People in interviews have said they had a very strange, and far too close, relationship. I think Alex was mesmerized by Lori, and Lori knew that and used his disability and loyalty to her benefit. I’d love to know how Joe Ryan, and loris sister, died.
He was said to have the decision making skills of a 16 year old after a brain injury in a vehicle crash. He was possibly vulnerable to his sister’s manipulation - another easy victim.
ALEX was under her spell always. Even when she was married to Joe Ryan.
I think Lori used sex to controll Alex. Alex ex wife said they had a very inappropriate relationship. Sex and making him feel special and her hero.
Thank you Nate & crew for your great reporting & footage and everything else. Great job 👏. I’m currently listening to the defense attorney…holy cow, he is so bad. I can’t wait to listen to the prosecutor’s arguments.
Thanks again…
Thank you Nate!
Lori, Chad and Alex are all guilty!!!
Yes, however poor old Alex ended up dead too - the plot thickens.
They killed Alex too I'm convinced!! The day after Tammy's body is exhumed!?!
@@bonnienelson7373yeah all the way from Hawaii 😂😂😂 sorry but I don’t think that’s possible unless they have go go gadget arms and hands 🤷🏻♀️
Please dear God let her be convicted!
Praying with all asking GOD through his Son JESUS for justice for all who lost their lives at the hands of this woman lorie Daybell and asking for other's. Who had part in this brought to justice.thank you amen.
These people are so disgusting. What they did to Tylee in particular is beyond comprehension. And why? Because she was a typical teen who "didn't like Chad". 🤬
I’m so glad she will NEVER see Chad again, no money or makeup for her just a life sentence!!!
A deep dark dungeon is what she needs
We hope so anyway. Who'd she wear makeup for??? The guards??? Bet she'd flirt with them tho.
@@Sloan341 yes with pics of her kids Charles and Tammy Alex and her sister all around her dungeon
So what if Chad conned her - she took part! She did nothing to stop it all. Sorry Jim Archibald, she is guilty
He didn’t con her - she just found someone as conniving and disgusting as herself
Exactly. She is an evil witch with a b.
She only cared about being a tramp
I think Chad took advantage of an already struggling Lori (mental health wise) her religious beliefs were getting deeper just before she met Chad. He saw the opportunity to get what he wanted. He didn’t believe a word about all of these other worlds and so forth. He just wanted to play along with the fantasy to get his wicked way with Lori. She wasn’t dumb tho, she agreed to it all. It all went too far.
JJ. First they took his daddy. Then his dog. Then his sister. Then his life. She would have been so very mean to him in those final weeks. Poor sweet prince. Angels sing thee to thy rest.
When kids go missing and their parents or guardians don’t report them missing, I pray we use good logic to forensic evidence and circumstantial evidence to this case and in the future. Praying for a guilty verdict and remembering little Caylee Anthony.