It’s been brought to our attention that the woman in the images at 1:07 and throughout is Jeffrey’s stepmother, and not his birth mother. The featured images were the only pictures of Jeffrey’s parents available at the time of publishing, we apologize for any confusion!
Very confusing. Being that some of the photos are of Dr. Hickey with the step mother. And as he keeps referring to that woman as Dhamer's mother in his psychoanalysis I'm not sure if he knows it's not his birth mother...
kinda wondering how conviced was dahmer to the point they let him away or the cops just have the zero sense of suspciousness? i mean they are cops well even if you are not cops, as a human being, we do still have insticts
His gun metaphor implies that the fundamental shape of male potential is an object of destruction, and in that sense it's a terrible (general) metaphor. Given proper socialization the shape of male potential can become just as profound an object of creation as it can become an object of destruction given the absence of proper socialization. The kind of madness that characterized Jeffery Dahmer is rooted in exactly the same basic motivational structure that characterizes great geniuses of creativity and innovation like Newton, Mozart, and Da Vinci. In the perfect words of Camille Paglia: "there is no female Mozart, because there is no female Jack-the-Ripper".
@@lancewalker2595 The statement was said in the context of a person developing into a sadistic serial killer. It was an appropriate metaphor for the video. Also, that quote at the end is outdated. There are plenty of talented female musicians and composers just as there are plenty of female killers. It's not about male vs female potential. It's about human potential.
I'd expand this analogy to "nature makes the gun, nurture makes the bullets, and people load them in". Pulling the trigger is usually just a formality, difference between a Jeffrey and a Karen is what you have assembled.
"Over time, fantasy become behaviour" this struck such a nerve with me. I think it could apply to a lot of things that you consistently allow to linger on your mind.
It's very easy to keep things linger on your mind when you have no direcrion and little to none coping skills for dealing with anxiety or stress. Add some depression and behavioural disorder and a small wave is ripe to become a tsunami. People need to feel loved and some are more needy than others.
Watch your thoughts, they become your words; watch your words, they become your actions; watch your actions, they become your habits; watch your habits, they become your character; watch your character, it becomes your destiny.
Honestly, my takeaway from watching all these serial killer videos and documentaries is that I’m so grateful that I have a normal mind. Like, people aren’t murderers by nature, some unfortunate people are just born with or develop mental disorders or peculiar behavioural patterns that turn them into criminals. I honestly thank god everyday for never giving me any dangerous or irrational thoughts.
That’s exactly what I said. I feel for these people in a strange way. I’m just glad I never had this type of internal struggle. I’m quite sure no one would choose to be that.
@@carnuatus lol you honestly believe Jeffrey genuinely cares about what he did to others? You remember this the same guy who had cops help him drag a 14 year boy back to his apt so he could finish him off? You guys are easily manipulated.
@@8luvbug lol yeah. He compartmentalized. It's not like there wasn't a part of him that cared, but the part of him that desired a permanent bond was stronger. Environmental factors had pushed it over critical mass and his actions were the result. People are complex, we don't need more mystification and demonization. P.S. - I think what Jeffrey did was wrong.
💯. I hate when people demonize those who study serial killers and other violent perpetrators. They’re doing it so that we can understand what causes these problems, and fix them in our society.
Word salad. People like him enable killers to get lighter sentences or write a letter to lesson the degree of violations once the prisoners are freed. Dudes that murder should be killed in the same fashion they inflicted on others. Maybe that will curb the next Dahmer from “expressing” himself ever again.
Dr. Hickey was my professor for a college class that I attended years ago, and I still believe it was one of the best classes that I've ever taken. He is an amazing teacher and kept my interest the entire time. Such a great guy.
YES! He was my criminology professor as well in 1993 right after this case came to light- definitely the best class I ever had! I’ve always had such a fondness for Dr. Hickey- he’s a fantastic professor.
Wait, when is he interviewing these people? After they are in jail or before. Don’t they have to tell if they know they are killing people? Honest question
The cops who let that poor 14 year old boy go back into Jeffrey’s apartment should have been fired at the very least. I can’t wrap my head around the fact they were not punished.
They were suspended with pay, initially. They went to their union, who fought the Wrongful Dismissal charge. They got their jobs back. One of them became a mayor 🙄
Dahmer was an extremely skilled liar and manipulator, maybe the best there ever was. He'd had a lifetime of practise. He fooled everyone around him. So dont be too hard on the cops. They fucked up, and missed a good opportunity to catch him, but lots of people missed lots of opportunities.
As a mother of two, I watch these kinds of videos and documentaries to learn how not to treat my children. I think its really important for parents to watch criminal psychology documentaries to understand the role of nurturing and caring about their children
The mom was completely drugged up on a cocktail of psych meds. (16 different, and in probably high doses back then, yet, I don't think it's harmless to be on psych meds nowadays, too, for the baby.) That should be the main reason for the crimes. They caused brain damage in him as a foetus, and he did the same to his victims... (tried to make brain damaged zombies) 😢 Yes, it's essential to treat children well, they usually repeat what has been done to them, also the good things.
Rather have a bit of therapy and get to know yourself. Few people consciously hurt their child. Most of the time parents just don't know any better because they don't understand themselves or the families they came from.
@@sensualtouch_likelifeLook in the yellow pages under psychology or psychiatry depending on insurance. If you have no insurance, look for community resources. There is help. There are help lines to put you in touch. Your regular Dr can also prescribe low dose antidepressants if it’s mild depression.
Always treat your children the way you *wish* you were treated, not necessarily the way you *were* treated. Listen, encourage, teach compassion and kindness, show pride, when they do or say things that are thoughtless or unkind point it out and explain why it was thoughtless or unkind, and *never* let them doubt that you love them to the moon and back.
I think this heavily explains what an impact parents have on their children’s lives. The feeling of abandonment can cause serious problems in a child and even adult
Yes! That was my biggest fear. Don’t fk up my 3 daughters. Like my parents had done to me and my siblings. I know that I had made mistakes. We all do, but my kids had a great life because I was so on top of it. Unlike my parents. Parents need to stay focused, loving and vigilant with their children and continue into adulthood. It’s the most important job you will have in life.
@@samfisher2306 it depends on a person, some people can cope but others dont. psycho can live a normal life like us if their environment isn't like that so if they experience those things it can trigger.
@@samfisher2306 to be fair alot of doctors or lawyers would be diagnosed as sociopaths. Most people who have personality disorders will not murder or hurt people.
I think Dahmer’s mother leaving him without telling him at age 17 was an extremely profound experience in his life. I think this need to keep his victim’s bodies with him, to control them, to eat parts of them so they are with him forever, comes from the insecurity of being alone, which stemmed from his mother leaving
@@emiliepadioleau-thomas7699 that’s why it’s important to make sure children are ok and that they understand nothing going on between their parents are their fault Jeffery’s parents both having mental issues but not trying to get help would make it harder for Jeffery to even understand how to open up How much tragedy could have been stop had his parents actually tried to think about others especially their children But we will never know
Lack of maternal love, depressed parents, rejection and abandonment by his own mother as a teen, and messed up coping mechanisms, totally isolated in his own messed up head… if only someone had paid attention, those 17 men might still be with us
No excuse! There are plenty of people who had these same exact issues and even worse! They don't pick a race of people and go hunt them down to torture and eat them come on now.
@@Knaeben he was no victim. Not everyone abandoned turns out to become a serial killer. It takes a different type of mentality and lack of empathy to accomplish something like that.
I think he deserves “credit” for refusing to be charged as criminally insane. He declared that he wasn’t, he knew what he was doing and to charge him as such. Everyone today tries to weasel out of there insidious crimes under “crazy”. I feel he deserves acknowledgment of just taking the conviction for what it really was.
He also helped his victims family financially unlike most of others killers of his time who never even acknowledged there victims now i am not defending his act in any way but he was not your typical serial killers a very complex individual . what he did was completely evil but was himself was an evil person thats really a matter of debate .
this is such an important point, most serial killers are so arrogant or won't admit or help with victim identifications, this is such a sad story because it is extreme pain brining pain to others.
His gun metaphor implies that the fundamental shape of male potential is an object of destruction, and in that sense it's a terrible (general) metaphor. Given proper socialization the shape of male potential can become just as profound an object of creation as it can become an object of destruction given the absence of proper socialization. The kind of madness that characterized Jeffery Dahmer is rooted in exactly the same basic motivational structure that characterizes great geniuses of creativity and innovation like Newton, Mozart, and Da Vinci. In the perfect words of Camille Paglia: "there is no female Mozart, because there is no female Jack-the-Ripper".
@@lilpoohbear653 I think you misunderstand the metaphor. He is saying that some people have the innate potential for certain behaviours or traits and it's their upbringing that can lessen or augment them.
Edit: just wanted to say wow thanks for all the likes! After a lot of great discussion in the comments one thing I want to mention is that the severity of one’s trauma is not dependent on the type or amount of abuse endured but how alone the individual felt during their trauma. The psychologist’s explanation of nature vs nurture was just so perfectly said. The gun can be loaded (based on our genetic factors) but healthy parenting and a nurturing environment can literally keep that trigger from being pulled. And if behaviors do arise, we are able to intervene at an earlier point which creates a better overall society.
But what about all the people who experienced domestic and sexual violence as children, who do not grow up to hurt other people or animals. if you have never experienced this for yourself, you may never know how badly a person can be affected by averse childhood experiences, research shows people who were abused as children especially women are more likely to get into abusive relationships as adults, people who are abusers, who are cruel to other people, children and animals don't have to of gone through any adversity as children. Save your pity for the victims, people have gone through much worse than Dahmer and not grown up to be killers.
i also agreed the psychologist’s explanation, if have someone there for him just maybe the ending wont be so sad. Parenting and nurture are very important in growing a person i supposed it have 99% impact on their future lives. Not everyone with a bad childhood turn into a bad person, understand this is that person's choice but i would say that nurturing a happy & harmony childhood will definitely bring light to the society.
Except that there is zero evidence of any singular gene, or even set of genes that causes any behaviour. It's ideology. We westerners aren't comfortable with the idea that the nuclear family and capitalism, is very unhealthy and toxic.
CatScratchFever@ You have a narrow view of what adverse childhood experiences are, typical. You don't want to understand a serial killer, so seperate yourself from them. If you understand human emotional needs, it's not hard to understand how a person who was emotionally neglected, could potentially become a serial killer later in life. Even here in this video, the human need for connection is being emphasized. You were abused, and you didn't become a murderer and cannibal, good for you.
Moral of the story: Don’t trust everyone but be sure to be nice because you don’t know what kind of internal battle a person may be facing that stems from years of mistreatment.
So true especially these days. U wouldn't want to go around being critical of others and whinning about this or that. This could be that one mental case just waiting for just the person to attack basically projecting their misery onto you because they feel they have nothing to lose. Some folks you can't be nice to or help. Even if you befriend them they will choose to be the one to dominate and control. Not to long ago I went to the community center to eat a free lunch as to where they have quite a few mentally unbalance folks attending and no t realizing what a nut case he was I got behind him in line as it started to move and he looked back accusing me of getting to close which was far from the truth basically behind his horrible odor and this domonic soul threaten me to the point of putting me in fear so Instead of allowing him to provoke me I said nothing but I was on guard just in case basically walking on eggshells until we got to the counter. I was 6 feet away from him under the guidelines for the rules of the pandemic and to protect my sense of smell. To spite what happens in life you have to defend yourself if need be but it's always better to walk away if you can. He may not have had anything to lose but I sure as hell feel as if I do...Why risk my life over someone who is less fortunate than I.. Although it's hard at times Never allow anyone to project their misery onto U..
Dahmer, unlike most high profile serial killers, came across as having a spark of humanity about himself. I think he could have been saved from his dark path with better parenting.
That could be said of almost any serial killer, or any criminal for that matter. Nurture plays by far the most significant role in "making a criminal".
usually serial killers and criminals give off bad vibes Dahmer just look like a normal guy with a kind soul, no wonder he's eventually saved at the end of his life
@@beaconlight4720 kind soul is a bit of a stretch, he drilled into the head of a 14 year old boy to make him a sex zombie and then eventually killed him. And when faced with the possibility of saving the boy (albeit turn himself in) he decided to kill him. While I have sympathy for Dahmer as a child/teen, to say he was kind in any capacity is negligent.
This man’s passion for psychology is palpable! If only more psychologists were that dedicated. He approached a stranger as he was already fascinated and recognized a broken human from afar. His mind and the stories he must of heard over the years would be an absolutely fascinating story in its self.
@@heba9978 absolutely. Nothing like taking a $2 word, and running it through a thesaurus, to turn it into a $10 word, to appear smarter than what you really are. Especially if you can't spell correctly.
Scary that he never denounces his actions though. The things this dude did were disgusting and horrible. Taking that many people’s lives is the devil on earth
@@mimixmin He was in the gym, and had insulted a black fellow too many times. The guy emptied the weights off the bar and caved Dahmer's head in. Or that's the report I learned of anyway.
@@davidlemaster2034 Agreed, and it's clear governments and police departments have this view of humanity as well. Animals, by the way, have spirit and purpose.
"Nature loads the gun and nurturing pulls the trigger" - That is the best explanation I've ever heard. It always boggles my mind what horrors people do to each other. The explanation of psychopath vs. sociopath was informative. Thank you Dr. Hickey.
I feel like a lot of people here doesn't understand the idea of criminal psychology. It's not about not feeling for the victims, but the mind of the murderer. Someone doing these heinous acts obviously has a mind to be examined thoroughly. I really enjoyed the metaphor for nature vs nurture he did here as well. On a side note, the netflix series did really well on telling the stories of the victims and how they were affected. Sometimes we can feel so disassociated from true crime stories, but when you actually show how it affected the families it becomes much more disturbing and gives a wider perspective.
The problem is they never interviewed or told the families about the Netflix series. So actually that is all mostly fiction, and created to exploit these people all over again. And of course making someone else in Hollywood money.
His childhood trauma played a part ..his pleasure and fantasy came from killing his victims knowing they couldn't abandon or leave him , which is why he was classed as being borderline personality,..he was definitely sociopathic!!
No way! I currently go to Fresno state. Did you know that they (Fresno state) were trying to obtain jeffrey dahmer’s brain before it was cremated in order to study it?
I was kind of offended for the page’s sake but then compared the Watcher watches and recent 700,000 subscriptions increase just from the past 6 months along with view comparisons showing subscription amount doesn’t mean anything to the much lower watch rate of the recent videos posted by Buzzfeed. Watcher also made their history more fun with Puppet History. And the Drunk Ghost stories and Are You Scared, and just like everything is so much more personal that it makes the knowledge more memorable and fun!. Buzzfeed really did lose some great quality workers and Ryan and Shane weren’t the only ones🤷♂️. I still enjoy their content myself but the rates still speak for themselves. I do like their replacements otherwise but when that quality is still being pumped from the best of the content elsewhere, it’s just not the same respect or quality. Maybe something big will come out about everything that really went down because I feel like Buzzfeed has “guidelines” that business saw as important but viewers were absent to which the bois brought to Watcher and gave us in the best doses.
I've watched many true crime stories about him. There's only 1 story that mentioned his birth mother & the fact that she had mental illness & while pregnant with him she took over 27 different pills a day including morphine and hormones and other things. Taking all those things while carrying a developing fetus would have to affect the baby's brain development. It's a shame they destroyed his brain it should have been kept for study to understand what happened.
Got that right. However, Pharmaceutical Interests were definitely happy to find out his brain was destroyed. It would've revealed the facts in stone about how so much "medicine" out there is just toxic scurge.
That's never mentioned bc to bring awareness re: the potential effects medications could have on a fetus contradicts the pill popping society by which we live. Personally, I believe both legal and illegal substances are major catalysts for the shitshow that is our world today.
I was so mad when I saw on the series that his dad wanted his brain to be also cremated and no used for study. The fact that they compared him with other serial killers to say that his results were gonna be of a normal human being without even trying to look into it.
If even the mother's stress or emotional problem can already affect the child she is generating, bringing unpredictable consequences, imagine stuffing yourself with this pile of crap and dealing with it in the worst possible way. No wonder the guy became what he became.
Neglect is abuse. This society needs to take note. Family members need to look out for each other and even live together. Too many isolated lonely souls. God bless his victims. Thank God for these thinkers who are trying to understand his mind.
I've known two different people that were abandoned by a parent that kept their other sibling. One was a boy who's father left with his younger sister(the father took both of them to the movies and left half way through with the sister). The other was a girl who's mother left with her younger brother. They were both train wrecks. Failed relationships, alcohol and drug abuse, anytime they managed to get anything or anyone positive in their life they sabotaged it almost immediately. That kind of trauma does not go away.
I love this comment section, it changes from Instagram where people will tell you you are defending this behavior when you simply understand where it’s coming from
Its a weak excuse. I had a horrible upbringing, abandonment, sexual abuse, violence, etc..I turned out fine. Stop looking for a cause. Theres simply no exact recipe that makes a Serial killer
@@michelrood2966 the world doesn’t revolve around you and your upbringing. Just because you turned out fine doesn’t mean everybody would. And I bet you have coping mechanisms without even realizing it. You are literally discrediting years and years of research. Why do you think profiler exist ? Just because you don’t understand it doesn’t mean it can’t happen. Educate yourself on the subject instead of just talking to talk.
@@michelrood2966 because it’s part nature and part nurture. Maybe it’s not in your nature and that’s great, doesn’t mean it’s not a factor for someone else.
Meanwhile people fighting for his eyeglasses on licitation 🤣serious lack of empathy. People are crazy. It's like someone killed your mum and later people get fascinated about the killer and invest money for his belongings so inappropriate.
17:36 Damn, the doctor explains the "dark spot" that Dahmer went into to..and STAYED THERE ALL THE TIME. High level psychoanalysis: Very insightful and a deep dive into Dahmer's twisted mind.
@@patrandolph4209 Dr. Hickey is actually a really awesome guy and does work for both defense and prosecution. One of the top 30 criminal psychologists in the world
I was a psychology major, specifically wanting to study criminal psychology and was deeply involved in a "psychology of evil" course that was available. My husband didn't understand my desire to watch the Netflix series, and it certainly wasn't out of some "obsession" with serial killers. I find their minds, and the "how" of their development, to be fascinating. We talk about "toxic masculinity" and how toxic fathers can be, and they can be truly detrimental to daughters; but too often the mothers of little boys are overlooked and not accountable for their roles in the development (or lack thereof) of their sons. I studied the Oedipus Complex in relation to children who were raised by a single parent and later identified as gay, and found that there was a correlation to children being raised, or rejected, by a specific parent. When you are at an age that a child starts to identify with the same sex parent and inherently compete with that parent for the attention of the opposite sex parent, between ages 3-5, if that stage of development is interrupted or secluded to only the parent of the same sex things can get a little "wonky". I think in Dahmer's case, his mothers complete dismissal of him, be it due to her own psychiatric needs or other factors, led him down a path of seeking out the male attention. When his mother abandoned him, AND his father was absent; this presented him with both major abandonment issues and the opportunity to live out fantasies that were unhealthy from the start. The whole case is sad. I see a little boy, who had a mother who wasn't capable of showing affection, a father who had unhealthy ways of bonding with him, and no outlet or form of real guidance of how to become a functioning member of society. I also see a community of people who were largely affected by the outcome of otherwise preventable circumstances. People died, had their corpses desecrated and there was no one watching- and the ones who did notice either went ignored or ignored the signs themselves. The part of the series, whether factually accurate or not, about Tony the man who was deaf- broke me. I saw Dahmer attempting to win the affections of someone who appeared to have genuinely cared for him, and instead of having the tools to nurture the affections of this man- he killed him because of the sum of events his life had already added up to. Bottom line, love your children. WATCH your children. Watch your neighbors. People are responsible for their own actions, good or bad; but if we hold bad people accountable for their actions against others we have to take personal inventory for our interactions with those "bad" people too... Did you nurture the good in them, or give nature more tools to run its course...?
When you mentioned Oedipus Complex you are explaining Dr. Sigmund Freud's psychoanalytical theory of what causes males to become homosexual. This theory has never been proven to be correct if you study other behavioral theorists after Freud's time. That's why it is called a theory; not a proven fact. I'm not trying to be critical of your comment but I do think that what you said should be clarified a little more.
@@angelajoleefloria2564 that’s correct, it is a theory- one that I studied and found a correlation in the subjects that I personally studied, and it applied to both genders given the situation. I use it as an example of one of many factors that could have played a part in his situation and thought I made that pretty clear; that it was what I thought, not a diagnosis or a statement of facts. But I’m glad you’re familiar with the theory
The scary part about all of this is that these are just the details released to the public. This is just what he felt comfortable telling others. The victims … I am so sad for them. Because it was probably so much worse
This is exactly the case. The details have him having sex with their heads and insides where hidden as it was a overload for the general public Just horrifying
I think this series was beautifully and respectfully done. No killing were shown no sex and no creepy music. It was done in such a way to send the message that many were brutally killed but the exact details of each and every death are none of your business. Bravo.
well.. there were things that u mention in the series, however i think the difference is that they were shown in a very objective way so that it shows the reality of the tragedies as best as possible i think it’s good that they showed some sexual scenes, and some gore because we can’t deny the severity of the monster’s doings..it was just a chilling series overall
@@yiasminathefangirl the only sex scene I recall was him masterbating at the fair. What I meant by no sex scene shown was they didn't show him physically/sexually penetrating any of his victims.
part of the reason why I'm studying psychology is because with things like this, we actually do not justify wrong doings but we are looking at the reasons and patterns why it was committed. isn't it fascinating how neglect and rejection affects your thoughts and behaviors? p.s. I'm sure everyone would be interested with Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs, its the perfect guide on how to 'actually' care, love, and nurture your children.
I truly love learning the minds of criminals. It’s matter of why for me and what kind of connections led them to be this way. I feel that it’s my path but I’m just reading on the side. Continue to be curious to educate yourself in the wonderful field of psychology.
In the words of Dr. Robert Block, the former President of the American Academy of Pediatrics, "Adverse childhood experiences are the single greatest unaddressed public health threat facing our nation today." It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men. -Frederick Douglass
Imagine living in the kind of mind where you think you have to kill people to feel loved and keep them from leaving. It’s so difficult to comprehend that kind of existence but I appreciate those who study these people for providing some understanding.
@@bamazing2731 it wasn’t sadistic. Didn’t you watch the video? He didn’t torture them but drugged them before killing them so they wouldn’t suffer. He was a sociopath not a psychopath
My cousin's father beat them constantly and told them not to cry after a while he shot their mother in the head and then himself. They had children and they may be rough around the edges but they're not serial killers
having a traumatic childhood with all those abandonment issues is one thing, but growing up with no social support is really another vital point. it’s cliché to say but he was outcasted, to a point of badly messing up his social skills and eventually his coping mechanism. he was given a lot of tough times but not a chance to be heard. the complex anxiety (of being left behind) in him pushed him to doing what it takes to control the people he get attached to, hence controlling the situation and not having to deal with them leaving (so he thought) empathic listening does not mean you agree with someone - especially Dahmer and all the other serial killers - but it’s essentially trying to understand what they go through
One thing, I do think he had the opportunity to see a therapist (yes I understand it was a fraught thing at the time, but still) and Dahmer only went to one appointment and none after that. This is one of the few instances where he had the possibility to be heard and turned it down.
A lot of people go through worse and come out as good people, there is certainly some amount of inherit good and evil in us that we have no control over.
A lot of people go through worse and come back fine because different people have different tolerance levels and mental capacities. This video itself highlights this fact.
Great interview! Thank you for exploring “the why”. Many people are too afraid to go beyond “because he’s evil”, because they think any type of explanation will be looked at excusing the behavior.
Dr. Hickey hands down one of the best professors I had at Fresno state! Glad to see him on here explaining the criminal psychology aspect of Dahmers behavior and actions!!
Jeffrey's mom emits coldness. Most serial killers have mommy issues. It is the lack of love from a mother that triggers violence in a man. If your own mother who brought you into this world don't care about you, why will anyone do?
His mother had mental illness and did not bond with him at birth. But his father could have stepped in more - instead he was absent and distant, off whetting his whistle inside some othe bird. Both are to blame, though its still damn rare for such a child to become a necrophiliac serial murderer.
This criminal psychologist is inspirational! Making such a complex individual come to light in the way he explained makes all the sense in the world. Amazing.
After watching the Netflix series this was really enlightening to me on the reasons why he did what he did. This psychologist explained it perfectly. Dahmer was fascinating and terrifying, it’s quite sad he didn’t just get help when he was a child and maybe none of this would have happened.
That's where you're wrong. Most of this would have still happened because we have the benefit of, hindsight after he had been caught. He literally told everybody in interviews that he was the only person to blame. He literally says it wasn't his parent's fault, police, nobody. Do not make excuses for him. He clearly didnt, so now we have to hold him accountable for his actions. He was most likely using reverse psychology on people when he said a lot of the stuff he said. Why? Because now you're questioning the parents and parenting instead of holding him accountable. That's how he wins. Thousands of comments on every Jeffrey dahmer video but little to no condolences go to his victims and their family. That's how he wins.
@@itsmesteve1081 Socrate unce said: The one who needs to be helped between the man who made bad things and the one who is victim of, is the bad man, because the victim has nothing to blame on himself, but the bad man does. Also, I think that he admitted evrything he did because his father was a good father who teached him how to be a good boy, and this could be why he tried to do something good after every brutalities he did. It's my own opinion. But if I follow the logic of manipulation, every serial killer and every rich people on this planet are all manipulator.
He may have had dark thoughts on his childhood, the problem was the lack of emotional support. If his family was there for him, he could've shared these thoughts and ask for guidance with them. The only problem is that he felt alone, and no one was there to tell him what he was thinking was very wrong. Parents should be there for their child.
He says in an interview that's not true. He said he had always had this impulse inside of him to kill people and do the things he did to their body. Remember that the netflix tv show and other movies are just that. Tv shows and movies. They have been altered from real life to fit a certain narrative. In real life the only thing we know 100% is that Jeffrey dahmer killed 15 men and two boys. You may have dark thoughts, but I dont think you would kill dozens of people to feel good about yourself. That goes out to everybody who isnt a person like Jeffrey dahmer, who statistically, is most of humanity.
Wow, this just lays it all out! It made me cry. So interesting to learn that Dahmer was not a psychopath (but a Sociopath instead combined with Paraphilia etc) and that Ted Bundy was and the reasons why. I think that emotional and physical abandonment really played a part here whether or not it was intentional from the parents.
I always wanted to know why some people are murderers and partly why I decided to study Psychology at university. As you study the degree, you realize the enormous amount of variables that can be behind human behavior, and the eternal nature vs nurture debate, it is incredibly complex and interesting. I loved the vision provided by the psychologist.👏🏻🧠
It’s hard to hear about Dahmer and not be instantly disgusted. When I watch interviews with him and Richard Kuklinski “the iceman”, I get such a feeling of sadness from them. Terrible actions taken, but once they were children who wanted connection and had affections they deserved to get and give. If anything can come of this it’s to know children need to feel that they are cared about, otherwise you get adults who are out to hurt other people and that includes people who aren’t serial killers.
It's a bit of a generalization to suggest that 'hurt people hurt people 100%'. 1) have you knowledge of every case of abuse since the world began? 2) there are many who've been abused and do no such thing.
To me, it’s not about having sympathies, but about understanding how this CAN happen. Sure it’s rare, but with the wrong genetics, environment, childhood, and circumstances clearly, can create a monster… if he’s parents had been more stable, would he have gone so far? We will never know. However, it can help us try to prevent this type of behaviour… be more present, pay more attention to our kids. Knowing the warning signs. It’s helpful from a preventative and research perspective. I can have sympathy for the 6 year old dahmer… who lived in chaos…. But no sympathy for the adult monster he became.
i don't think these sort of videos are ever meant to invoke pity or sympathy for people who have done horrible, inexcusable things. criminal psychologists whole job is to establish personal connections to these people in order to study what even possibly causes this sort of stuff. and it's been found that as much as mental illness can be hereditary, there are also HUGE components relating to childhood trauma. in fact, borderline personality disorder, one of the conditions listed, is strongly believed to be mainly caused by significant childhood neglect. all of it is to help better understand psychology behind criminal acts. things like why necrophiles, like he said, very rarely have intent to hurt people, but instead outright turn to killing to serve their purpose. figure out if there's anything that does cause people to jump to this level of behavior, if there's underlying factors (like a history of mental illness) that need to be present to cause outside factors to trigger this behavior, etc. *TLDR:* no one is expected to pity people like Dahmer (even though many people do anyways,) all of these sort of studies and analyses are meant to help people better understand what can be done to prevent or treat these urges or actions.
The whole story of Jeffrey Dahmer is so terrifying to me. As a gay man I would have been very physically attracted to Dahmer. I would have gone home with him from a bar. I think of the times I did go home with a stranger from a bar. We even had a serial killer in the city that I live who picked up most of his victims from a bar I frequented. You just never know. It's like a horrible game of Russian roulette.
Hey you, be careful. Dont go home with ppl u dont know. Take care of yourself. If this series taught me something is that we cant trust ppl so easily. Be careful x
This can happen to anyone regardless of sexual attraction. People need to be very careful especially with alcohol. I have been drugged and taken advantage of. Please be safe
I was watching a court hearing with the victim who actually escaped and got the police. He stated that dahmer seemed like a good guy…until he wasn’t. It’s pretty scary to think about. Even in his interviews etc he seemed almost humble, good natured, etc. just shows you what some people are capable of.
@@beckscald3855 Yes! It was so interesting! He said that he was so normal then completely shifted his whole personality once Edwards was in the apartment and couldn’t get free. It’s just scary to think of how many people out there you meet every day who are the same. Wild.😬
Ive noticed in a lot of serial killer docs that they seem to be immune to bad smells. I had a friend that was creepy and displayed a lot of psychopathic tendencies and he had practically no ability to smell. So if you want to test if someone you know or meet is a potential psychopath then a smell test might be a good tool.
Interesting point, however I would bet there's many people who haven't got an acute sense of smell and they are not serial killers. Many people with allergies like hay fever, can't smell very well a lot of the time. After losing my sense of smell for a few days after having covid, I can see it would be quite depressing not to be able to Smell.
Dr. Hickey was one of my doctoral professors when I was working on my PhD in forensic psychology. He is a wealth of knowledge, and it was great to see him talk about Dahmer.
I took Dr. Hickey’s Criminal Psychology class at Fresno State around 2002 - I very much enjoyed his perspectives and approach to education. Hope you’re doing well, Dr. Hickey!
It’s a shame he was never able to express his insecurities. It’s a shame he chose to act on the dark fantasies rather than try to meet someone who might understand and accept him. Society is awful that way, though. Rejection is real and it’s an epidemic.
@@echohotel7975 it's true but I don't think it was always like that at start he did tried to find love but many just wanted hook up so at certain point he gave up .
What an upsetting story. This goes to show how important mental health really is. How parenting and family plays such an important role in cases like this. There's no happy ending here, but we can work together as a society and a community to learn how to take care and help people that feel like Jeffrey. 💔
EXACTLY. AMEN. And thats also why it makes it a sad story, because it doesn't have a happy ending, it starts messy and bad, and ends horrible worng, something that could have been prevented with nurture and good parenting, something so important and essencial ... that's why its sad.
Yes! That's why schools should focus on student peer outreach. Try to include the low key, shy students into social activity groups from primary school and throughout student life. I bet it would make a world of difference!
5:40 this is what scares me the most. The fact that anyone could end up like this due to lacking the skills to be intimate is really scary. Growing up I never really had any close friends because I found it hard to relate to my peers and I preferred to be alone. However, I also believed that intimate relationships and friendships were bad (partly because my hermit parents would vent to me about how bad humans are and how relationships are just a waste of time). I just graduated high school and although I don't have that toxic mindset where I hate people because I thought they were evil, I'm still really insecure about myself since I have no friends. I've also always been on the chubbier side growing up (until I got anorexia), but since then I gained all the weight back and more, making me stay inside instead of allowing myself to be seen in the public. Although I've tried to make friends this year, some of them ghosted me, and others I rarely talk to. I know I have a lot of problems with socializing, and I feel like with my insecurities and lack of social skills, I'll never be able to make any friends or even get into a relationship. I'm not saying everyone with this problem will become a desperate for love serial killer, but my point is if we don't get out of this cycle of social isolation, we will have the drive to do unimaginable things. That's what scares me so much about myself...
@@danjames6620 thanks for the advice! I tried to eat healthier and exercise and within that time I also forced myself to reach out to a former classmate that I used to talk to and we hung out. Although I haven't really stayed consistent about taking care of myself I feel like a huge weight has been taken off of my shoulders after hanging out just once. But yeah you're right how you treat your body makes or breaks your mindset.
Dr.Hickey was my favorite Proffesor at CSU Fresno . He was the reason why I picked to be a sociology major. It was a trip down memory lane seeing him here !!!!!
This is very understandable and familiar to me. As a little girl I was sexually abused by my father and brother. From then on I had a promiscuous lifestyle and ended up working in prostitution. I was full of rage, agression, hatred and bitterness because of what was done to me as a child. I started hating men so much that I fantasised about them standing in front of me and then me proceeding to kill them all with just a gunshot in their heads. Yes this is what happens in the heads of people who have been raised "differently". How my story turned out? Thank my God it didn't go so far. Jesus found me in my lost condition and saved my life. Today I am a believer in Christ and all of my pain and suffering is gone. He healed all my heartache and made a human out of me. I have truly forgiven everyone who has ever hurt me and I believe in true love and a healthy relationship. So we do not justify the deeds of people but every story has 2 sides. Your upbringing enforces your choices in life. And yes, I know we all have a free will, but honestly life can be really hard on people when they are very young. So yes, I do have compassion for victims and I have compassion for criminals. I do not justify one's behaviour but by the grace of my God I can look at a murderer and have compassion on his soul. Honestly each one of us has the potential to be a murderer, just that life has beaten up some people more than others. Don't forget that we were all once a child. Giving you the right circumstances and environment everyone of us would kill. We actually have no idea how evil our human nature can be. We can be nice to strangers and mean to our famiy members. 🤫
@@alessandroricciardi7317 no problem. It is all in the past and even the memory of it doesn't hurt anymore. If you look at it at the positive side, now I can tell people in the same situation how Christ changed my life snd things can be normal again. 😁
I’m so sorry to hear this. On our best of days, we are a child of God On our worst of days, we are still, a child of God. That’s how much He loves us. All glory to Him.
The presence of a mother at home is so essential for children, the abandonment truly messed him up. I think he never saw his mom after she left, that’s truly horrible. The insecurity, loneliness and lack of self-esteem propulse him to search for love but he was so inept and feeling of inferiority that he killed. Detective Murphy said he didn’t have friends and there was no phone calls to friends or acquaintances for the past five years.
Dahmer said he was a loner by choice he didn't want friends. Stop blaming what he chose to do on his mom. Dahmer said she was a comforting woman and chose not to go with her because he was going to start college soon. Stop buying into what her bitter ex husband said about her, it's unfair.
As a true crime listener, It's sickening to see how a past can mold us to what we are today, at present it sounds so terrifying... but the only thing is : • It's our choice whether we learn to be better than our past or be worse and lose empathy.. Mr.Dahmer chose the easy way, he let his past consume him knowing it's dangerous and therefore he, himself led this dark path crawl with him and his mind which took his life.
I do agree with your comment, partially. I was myself severely abused all throughout my childhood by both my parents (in every way that abuse can occur). For some reason, the way I dealt with it was to turn my confusion and distress inward, which resulted in many decades of depression, suicidal thoughts, and various coping mechanisms that hurt me. Thankfully, many years later, I have made great strides in my healing, and I have a much better understanding of what happened to me. I wonder if it really is a "choice" in how individuals deal with their emotional pain? I don't remember ever making a conscious choice that I was going to have empathy and compassion for others, rather than turning to hurting others to relieve my pain. I just am who I am. I've honestly never had thoughts of taking someone's life, or torturing someone. But some people DO have these thoughts, and sadly they carry out those thoughts into actions. What it is exactly that causes a person to have evil thoughts? It's a question that perhaps can never be answered with absolute certainty.
@@pilly3815 only to a certain extent. Many people have had similar or even worse upbringings and don't commit the same horrors. All in all, we can understand how he came to be
@@amobaleiasassassinas Yes I agree, in an interview Jeffrey even admit to what he did, he did not blame his parents or inappropriate content, he even said that he himself is the one to blame behind all of this. However, I want to add in one more thing. The show not only shows the worse upbringings, it also shows how social injustice contributes to it. Him being able to do such things and yet being able to hide it for so long.
@@amobaleiasassassinas yeah but not everyone is subject to the same brain chemistry and chemical makeup either... You never know how ANYONE can and will react to different situations
Man it's always the childhood. It's always one good parenting away from the worst case scenario. As a psych major, this case is really interesting to look at with different lenses of personality theories. Also loved the analogy he used fo nature vs. nurture, Imma steal that.
His gun metaphor implies that the fundamental shape of male potential is an object of destruction, and in that sense it's a terrible (general) metaphor. Given proper socialization the shape of male potential can become just as profound an object of creation as it can become an object of destruction given the absence of proper socialization. The kind of madness that characterized Jeffery Dahmer is rooted in exactly the same basic motivational structure that characterizes great geniuses of creativity and innovation like Newton, Mozart, and Da Vinci. In the perfect words of Camille Paglia: "there is no female Mozart, because there is no female Jack-the-Ripper".
@@8luvbug Psychopathy describes a condition in which one rendered incapable of experiencing emotion... to suggest that Jeffery Dahmer wasn't highly emotional is just silly. He literally killed and ate people to escape his feelings of rejection, and loneliness.
I love to his interpretation of dahmers mentality. The only thing is I really wanted to know how this affected his brother. He started the conversation with that and I thought he was going to circle back to it at some point but he never did. I really want to know how his brother went through all this and how it affected him
I believe the abandonment caused a lot of problems for him and that’s why he wanted to keep he’s victims close. He’s parents had a profound affect. No love at all. The mother just leaving is evil and think this caused most he’s problems from then. The rejection theory speaks volumes. Great video.
I agree to a certain extent...the analogy used by the professor regarding nature/nurture was genius...I've always been intrigued by Dahmer and always thought his behaviour was a mixture of nature and nurture....quite fascinating
I'm not saying there's no relationship here. But the vast, vast majority of people who experience traumatic abandonment do not go on to become murderous cannibals. There has to be something wrong with you to begin with to become this way regardless of what happens to you in life.
@@toughntiny lmao are you serious? When Jeffery was committing his murders he didn’t do them all in one area yet he still specifically targeted black, brown and Asian people out of all of the victims. no matter what community he was in. He knew that his racial identity brought him a certain level of privilege that could protect him to an extent and if you did your research you’d know that many victims families/poc witnesses who reported on him numerous times were ignored. And the poc victims families were also ignored and dismissed in court for other crimes.
I don't see evidence of him looking for a demographic that the police would ignore, that's by accident, gay men during the aids epidemic, black and poor young men. He was broke. He doesn't seen like the sophisticated killer who plotted which neighbourhood to hit. He could also have just had a thing for dark skin
There's a huge oversight in the video. If Jeffrey was this remorseful and unwilling murderer, why did he then brag and joke around about his crimes in prison? Something doesn't add up
I understand a lot of these comments about the Dr being seemingly unsympathetic enough towards the victims..(R.I.P.)...this video though is about the psychology of Dahmer's brain and how that can help us try to understand this man who was a monster. What can make a man do things so abnormal? Why? What was his purpose? Reasoning? I found it fascinating. I don't have to agree with all of the Drs. assessments but I do find them all really interesting to think about. I loved how he explained nature vs nurture. That was simplifying it but so well done.
its wrong though, Dahmer WAS a sadist, there are victims of his who are alive who he beat and raped when he was drunk in the army. He also laughed about how he killed people and that's why he was murdered in prison.
As a psych major honestly it’s pretty difficult to sugar coat many of the things we learn and talk about.! Imagine when your just starting out and learning about all these different types of mental illnesses or crimes.! I think people forget this is reality it’s only so many ways to discuss ones mental health especially a murderer! It’s gruesome but someone has to do the job.
Agreed. It's just our current form of puritanism. It wasn't too long ago that doctors had to pay people to dig up bodies to study the inner workings of the body for science because the concept was taboo. We are still that backwards about women's health studies. Here we have yet another case of psychology in regards to someone that is the closest thing to a monster we legit have. It doesn't surprise me in the least that there are as many people that are speaking against this as they are with no room for reasonable conversation. I'm surprised that no one has called him "possessed" or "satanic." Apparently THAT'S more applicable than the possibility that he was deficient in his formative years very much due to his upbringing and he never got that back.
I think the scary part about this, is there’s many people out in the world who go threw tough situations, and they might somehow think of hurting someone. They just don’t act on it. Then you have people like Dahmer who was trying to find a way to cop with his emotions by killing people.
People always seem to di miss dahmer as some weirdo or freak however harsh reality is that we all have that darkness inside us but we are not acting on it .
To be honest I'm that person. I have a sister who come into my life as brother and sister and family love but turns out that she corrupt my foster mother against me. I was arrested one time when I break out her house window. I came from a wicked family that praise rejection and lack of communication. I was thinking of stabbing my sister but I didn't. She didn't even bury our biological father and she live with him for years as child but end up make man pregnant her and was throw out of school.
What an incredible doctor, the way he explains and speaks about these things was so interesting and articulated that I immediately went ahead and bought one of his books, I could hear speaking for hours
Absolutely fascinating. The human psyche is so vast and complex… It’s so… interesting and intriguing why people are the way they are, and do what they do.
Probably because he wasn't a psychopath, therefore he had more depth of character and emotion (granted, you don't get that sense from his video clips or pictures; he just looks blank and monotone). I often find that psychopathic killers are one-dimensional and boring, as if they're missing that key element that makes a person creative and unique. They're just a template that's been painted black.
I did a thesis on Jeffrey Dahmer in my Psych class... I disagree that he didn't want to hurt them... he drilled holes in their heads and poured acid in to try to make them zombie like... It's the crime scene photos that really take you into another world... It's beyond disturbing
they were still alive!!! YES!!! he literally said he wanted to turn these people into zombies, which turns out it was not “instant death”. it was incredibly sadistic. having “sex slaves” is objectifying as it is, now doing these experiments while they were alive is another level of sadism.
@@moonstone777 It was never about sadism with Dahmer. Never at all. We may think it’s sadistic, but that had zero to do with his mind/actions. It was about being part of his victims & keeping them close. A longing he couldn’t satisfy to not be alone.
@@leaf6356 but there is a psychological reason. It’s not a dismissal of the disgusting murders to have an explanation behind why he did it. It was obvious he wanted people to not leave him, disgusting and unreasonable to a normal person.
Same! I’m a student in psych too. Also, i suffer from BPD, and have Been in therapy for years. I see SO MANY severe BPD features/ DSM criteria in Dhamer. As a fellow psych student, I’m curious if you agree with this? I truly believe he had BPD.
Wow; I haven’t finished watching this yet but it’s really great - it’s so hard to find new material like this. This is probably my favorite type of true crime material, hearing the experts reflect. Great job 🙌🏻
The fact that his mom left him, completely abandoning him and the fact that later on when he started his crimes his modus operandi was that he wanted his victims to “Always be with me.” Is so eerie. 💔 My heart not only breaks for the victims and their families but for his childhood self that was not cared for properly and needed help but never received it. Lots of people failed this man.
It’s been brought to our attention that the woman in the images at 1:07 and throughout is Jeffrey’s stepmother, and not his birth mother. The featured images were the only pictures of Jeffrey’s parents available at the time of publishing, we apologize for any confusion!
Very confusing. Being that some of the photos are of Dr. Hickey with the step mother. And as he keeps referring to that woman as Dhamer's mother in his psychoanalysis I'm not sure if he knows it's not his birth mother...
@@Nilboggen yes he knows man
BuzzFeed and Netflix, sitting in a tree, K I S S I N G ...
wouldn't expect anything less from buzzfeed.
@@Nilboggen where in this video? I was listening but not watching the video lol
i want him to explain the minds of the cops who let him get away with it for 10 years
Yes
Lazy uncompetent cops
kinda wondering how conviced was dahmer to the point they let him away or the cops just have the zero sense of suspciousness? i mean they are cops well even if you are not cops, as a human being, we do still have insticts
I mean. Dahmer is a Caucasian male with blonde hair and blue or green eyes. I mean his entitlement is in his favor during those times. 🤮
Thank you! At his was partly the authorities fault as to why so many more you men and boys were murdered.
"Nature loads the gun, nurture pulls the trigger" such a powerful statement oh my God
His gun metaphor implies that the fundamental shape of male potential is an object of destruction, and in that sense it's a terrible (general) metaphor. Given proper socialization the shape of male potential can become just as profound an object of creation as it can become an object of destruction given the absence of proper socialization. The kind of madness that characterized Jeffery Dahmer is rooted in exactly the same basic motivational structure that characterizes great geniuses of creativity and innovation like Newton, Mozart, and Da Vinci. In the perfect words of Camille Paglia: "there is no female Mozart, because there is no female Jack-the-Ripper".
@@lancewalker2595 The statement was said in the context of a person developing into a sadistic serial killer. It was an appropriate metaphor for the video. Also, that quote at the end is outdated. There are plenty of talented female musicians and composers just as there are plenty of female killers. It's not about male vs female potential. It's about human potential.
I'd expand this analogy to "nature makes the gun, nurture makes the bullets, and people load them in". Pulling the trigger is usually just a formality, difference between a Jeffrey and a Karen is what you have assembled.
Dahmer was also homosexual are you going to say that was caused by his upbringing too? But then not say his cannibalism was not from upbringing
@@thecollinzboy Yes. Homosexuality is massively influenced by childhood experience.
"Over time, fantasy become behaviour" this struck such a nerve with me. I think it could apply to a lot of things that you consistently allow to linger on your mind.
It's very easy to keep things linger on your mind when you have no direcrion and little to none coping skills for dealing with anxiety or stress. Add some depression and behavioural disorder and a small wave is ripe to become a tsunami. People need to feel loved and some are more needy than others.
It's also scary in a way.
That's why it's important to take out the trash before it starts piling up.
Watch your thoughts, they become your words; watch your words, they become your actions; watch your actions, they become your habits; watch your habits, they become your character; watch your character, it becomes your destiny.
Yes and no. People fantasize about sexual things on a regular basis they would never make come true. That's normal. It takes more than fantasies!
Honestly, my takeaway from watching all these serial killer videos and documentaries is that I’m so grateful that I have a normal mind. Like, people aren’t murderers by nature, some unfortunate people are just born with or develop mental disorders or peculiar behavioural patterns that turn them into criminals. I honestly thank god everyday for never giving me any dangerous or irrational thoughts.
That’s exactly what I said. I feel for these people in a strange way. I’m just glad I never had this type of internal struggle. I’m quite sure no one would choose to be that.
@@Kindred420 don't. Maybe for Dahmer but he's an outlier. Most of them do not care about what they have done to others or even gloat about it.
@@carnuatus lol you honestly believe Jeffrey genuinely cares about what he did to others? You remember this the same guy who had cops help him drag a 14 year boy back to his apt so he could finish him off? You guys are easily manipulated.
@@tvthecatvariety is the spice of life
@@8luvbug lol yeah. He compartmentalized. It's not like there wasn't a part of him that cared, but the part of him that desired a permanent bond was stronger. Environmental factors had pushed it over critical mass and his actions were the result. People are complex, we don't need more mystification and demonization.
P.S. - I think what Jeffrey did was wrong.
He's not excusing Dahmers actions. You can tell that he loves his job & the psychology of it fascinates him.
💯. I hate when people demonize those who study serial killers and other violent perpetrators. They’re doing it so that we can understand what causes these problems, and fix them in our society.
He's explaining it. Not excusing it.
Word salad. People like him enable killers to get lighter sentences or write a letter to lesson the degree of violations once the prisoners are freed. Dudes that murder should be killed in the same fashion they inflicted on others. Maybe that will curb the next Dahmer from “expressing” himself ever again.
@@sciencenotstigma9534 yesss said perfectly!!!!
This show is giving me a hard on.
Dr. Hickey was my professor for a college class that I attended years ago, and I still believe it was one of the best classes that I've ever taken. He is an amazing teacher and kept my interest the entire time. Such a great guy.
YES! He was my criminology professor as well in 1993 right after this case came to light- definitely the best class I ever had! I’ve always had such a fondness for Dr. Hickey- he’s a fantastic professor.
🙌🏽👍🏽
Aw lucky
Wait, when is he interviewing these people? After they are in jail or before. Don’t they have to tell if they know they are killing people? Honest question
He seems quite interesting
The cops who let that poor 14 year old boy go back into Jeffrey’s apartment should have been fired at the very least. I can’t wrap my head around the fact they were not punished.
Those cops should have been charged with accessory to murder.
They were suspended with pay, initially. They went to their union, who fought the Wrongful Dismissal charge. They got their jobs back. One of them became a mayor 🙄
I saw them both on the Geraldo Rivera show. They made jokes over dispatch. They demanded their jobs back! At the time they were fired.
Dahmer was an extremely skilled liar and manipulator, maybe the best there ever was. He'd had a lifetime of practise. He fooled everyone around him. So dont be too hard on the cops. They fucked up, and missed a good opportunity to catch him, but lots of people missed lots of opportunities.
Welcome to the USA!
As a mother of two, I watch these kinds of videos and documentaries to learn how not to treat my children. I think its really important for parents to watch criminal psychology documentaries to understand the role of nurturing and caring about their children
The mom was completely drugged up on a cocktail of psych meds. (16 different, and in probably high doses back then, yet, I don't think it's harmless to be on psych meds nowadays, too, for the baby.) That should be the main reason for the crimes. They caused brain damage in him as a foetus, and he did the same to his victims... (tried to make brain damaged zombies) 😢
Yes, it's essential to treat children well, they usually repeat what has been done to them, also the good things.
Rather have a bit of therapy and get to know yourself. Few people consciously hurt their child. Most of the time parents just don't know any better because they don't understand themselves or the families they came from.
I think I need some help parenting my 7 years old. I might inherit some depression. Dont know how though.
@@sensualtouch_likelifeLook in the yellow pages under psychology or psychiatry depending on insurance. If you have no insurance, look for community resources. There is help. There are help lines to put you in touch. Your regular Dr can also prescribe low dose antidepressants if it’s mild depression.
Always treat your children the way you *wish* you were treated, not necessarily the way you *were* treated. Listen, encourage, teach compassion and kindness, show pride, when they do or say things that are thoughtless or unkind point it out and explain why it was thoughtless or unkind, and *never* let them doubt that you love them to the moon and back.
I think this heavily explains what an impact parents have on their children’s lives. The feeling of abandonment can cause serious problems in a child and even adult
Yes! That was my biggest fear. Don’t fk up my 3 daughters. Like my parents had done to me and my siblings. I know that I had made mistakes. We all do, but my kids had a great life because I was so on top of it. Unlike my parents. Parents need to stay focused, loving and vigilant with their children and continue into adulthood. It’s the most important job you will have in life.
Especially if a mother abandoned him…terrible story!
@@samfisher2306 it’s all relative 🤷🏽♂️
@@samfisher2306 it depends on a person, some people can cope but others dont. psycho can live a normal life like us if their environment isn't like that so if they experience those things it can trigger.
@@samfisher2306 to be fair alot of doctors or lawyers would be diagnosed as sociopaths. Most people who have personality disorders will not murder or hurt people.
I think Dahmer’s mother leaving him without telling him at age 17 was an extremely profound experience in his life. I think this need to keep his victim’s bodies with him, to control them, to eat parts of them so they are with him forever, comes from the insecurity of being alone, which stemmed from his mother leaving
Heureusement que tous les ados abandonnés ne finissent pas comme lui..
Add a few mental disorders in there and sure!
@@emiliepadioleau-thomas7699 that’s why it’s important to make sure children are ok and that they understand nothing going on between their parents are their fault
Jeffery’s parents both having mental issues but not trying to get help would make it harder for Jeffery to even understand how to open up
How much tragedy could have been stop had his parents actually tried to think about others especially their children
But we will never know
I 100% agree with you.
It's always mummy's fault 🙄
Lack of maternal love, depressed parents, rejection and abandonment by his own mother as a teen, and messed up coping mechanisms, totally isolated in his own messed up head… if only someone had paid attention, those 17 men might still be with us
Now is was born bad
He said himself he is the only one responsible for what happened and he is correct. True crime fans sicken me
No excuse! There are plenty of people who had these same exact issues and even worse! They don't pick a race of people and go hunt them down to torture and eat them come on now.
@@Knaeben he was no victim. Not everyone abandoned turns out to become a serial killer. It takes a different type of mentality and lack of empathy to accomplish something like that.
@@ceenooriitaas24 true. Great way to shut down the Karens with their pathetic sympathy nonsense
I think he deserves “credit” for refusing to be charged as criminally insane. He declared that he wasn’t, he knew what he was doing and to charge him as such. Everyone today tries to weasel out of there insidious crimes under “crazy”. I feel he deserves acknowledgment of just taking the conviction for what it really was.
He also helped his victims family financially unlike most of others killers of his time who never even acknowledged there victims now i am not defending his act in any way but he was not your typical serial killers a very complex individual . what he did was completely evil but was himself was an evil person thats really a matter of debate .
Agreed! Thanks for pointing this out!
this is such an important point, most serial killers are so arrogant or won't admit or help with victim identifications, this is such a sad story because it is extreme pain brining pain to others.
@@arezouhayeri6661 🙏
Same as Ted Bundy
“Nature loads the gun, but nurture pulls the trigger.” What a great way to put it!
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His gun metaphor implies that the fundamental shape of male potential is an object of destruction, and in that sense it's a terrible (general) metaphor. Given proper socialization the shape of male potential can become just as profound an object of creation as it can become an object of destruction given the absence of proper socialization. The kind of madness that characterized Jeffery Dahmer is rooted in exactly the same basic motivational structure that characterizes great geniuses of creativity and innovation like Newton, Mozart, and Da Vinci. In the perfect words of Camille Paglia: "there is no female Mozart, because there is no female Jack-the-Ripper".
what about children that are horribly abused and never harm a soul...it comes down to PERSONAL CHOICE...period
@@lilpoohbear653 as a grown up,....yer not horribly wrong no......
@@lilpoohbear653 I think you misunderstand the metaphor. He is saying that some people have the innate potential for certain behaviours or traits and it's their upbringing that can lessen or augment them.
Edit: just wanted to say wow thanks for all the likes! After a lot of great discussion in the comments one thing I want to mention is that the severity of one’s trauma is not dependent on the type or amount of abuse endured but how alone the individual felt during their trauma.
The psychologist’s explanation of nature vs nurture was just so perfectly said. The gun can be loaded (based on our genetic factors) but healthy parenting and a nurturing environment can literally keep that trigger from being pulled. And if behaviors do arise, we are able to intervene at an earlier point which creates a better overall society.
But what about all the people who experienced domestic and sexual violence as children, who do not grow up to hurt other people or animals. if you have never experienced this for yourself, you may never know how badly a person can be affected by averse childhood experiences, research shows people who were abused as children especially women are more likely to get into abusive relationships as adults, people who are abusers, who are cruel to other people, children and animals don't have to of gone through any adversity as children. Save your pity for the victims, people have gone through much worse than Dahmer and not grown up to be killers.
i also agreed the psychologist’s explanation, if have someone there for him just maybe the ending wont be so sad. Parenting and nurture are very important in growing a person i supposed it have 99% impact on their future lives. Not everyone with a bad childhood turn into a bad person, understand this is that person's choice but i would say that nurturing a happy & harmony childhood will definitely bring light to the society.
Except that there is zero evidence of any singular gene, or even set of genes that causes any behaviour. It's ideology. We westerners aren't comfortable with the idea that the nuclear family and capitalism, is very unhealthy and toxic.
CatScratchFever@ You have a narrow view of what adverse childhood experiences are, typical. You don't want to understand a serial killer, so seperate yourself from them. If you understand human emotional needs, it's not hard to understand how a person who was emotionally neglected, could potentially become a serial killer later in life. Even here in this video, the human need for connection is being emphasized. You were abused, and you didn't become a murderer and cannibal, good for you.
he literally killed black men and you are simping for this creep?
Moral of the story: Don’t trust everyone but be sure to be nice because you don’t know what kind of internal battle a person may be facing that stems from years of mistreatment.
Therefore, money is not always the root of all evil. More like MISTREATMENTS. who cares, happy go lucky peeps never learn until they see corpses
Finally a person who understands the issue deeply
well said
So true especially these days. U wouldn't want to go around being critical of others and whinning about this or that. This could be that one mental case just waiting for just the person to attack basically projecting their misery onto you because they feel they have nothing to lose. Some folks you can't be nice to or help. Even if you befriend them they will choose to be the one to dominate and control. Not to long ago I went to the community center to eat a free lunch as to where they have quite a few mentally unbalance folks attending and no t realizing what a nut case he was I got behind him in line as it started to move and he looked back accusing me of getting to close which was far from the truth basically behind his horrible odor and this domonic soul threaten me to the point of putting me in fear so Instead of allowing him to provoke me I said nothing but I was on guard just in case basically walking on eggshells until we got to the counter. I was 6 feet away from him under the guidelines for the rules of the pandemic and to protect my sense of smell. To spite what happens in life you have to defend yourself if need be but it's always better to walk away if you can. He may not have had anything to lose but I sure as hell feel as if I do...Why risk my life over someone who is less fortunate than I.. Although it's hard at times Never allow anyone to project their misery onto U..
Nope Don't trust and don't be nice.
Just go with the flow and be observant always
Dahmer, unlike most high profile serial killers, came across as having a spark of humanity about himself. I think he could have been saved from his dark path with better parenting.
That could be said of almost any serial killer, or any criminal for that matter. Nurture plays by far the most significant role in "making a criminal".
That’s why the Dr. quotes “Nature loads the gun, nurture pulls the trigger.”
I don’t think it was a parenting. Ohio has toxic K12 schools. Ohio state just about hires any predators they can find to lead classrooms of children .
usually serial killers and criminals give off bad vibes Dahmer just look like a normal guy with a kind soul, no wonder he's eventually saved at the end of his life
@@beaconlight4720 kind soul is a bit of a stretch, he drilled into the head of a 14 year old boy to make him a sex zombie and then eventually killed him. And when faced with the possibility of saving the boy (albeit turn himself in) he decided to kill him. While I have sympathy for Dahmer as a child/teen, to say he was kind in any capacity is negligent.
This man’s passion for psychology is palpable!
If only more psychologists were that dedicated.
He approached a stranger as he was already fascinated and recognized a broken human from afar.
His mind and the stories he must of heard over the years would be an absolutely fascinating story in its self.
must have*
@@ingwiafraujaz3126 was that necessary
@@heba9978 absolutely. Nothing like taking a $2 word, and running it through a thesaurus, to turn it into a $10 word, to appear smarter than what you really are. Especially if you can't spell correctly.
Scary that he never denounces his actions though. The things this dude did were disgusting and horrible. Taking that many people’s lives is the devil on earth
passion for blaming everything but the criminal himself
I'm surprised no one mentioned that Jeffrey was killed by a barbell. He ended the same way he started this hellish story.
How ironic it is…
Karma is real
he was killed by a lead pipe, not a barbell.
@@mimixmin He was in the gym, and had insulted a black fellow too many times. The guy emptied the weights off the bar and caved Dahmer's head in. Or that's the report I learned of anyway.
@@davidlemaster2034 Agreed, and it's clear governments and police departments have this view of humanity as well. Animals, by the way, have spirit and purpose.
"Nature loads the gun and nurturing pulls the trigger" - That is the best explanation I've ever heard. It always boggles my mind what horrors people do to each other. The explanation of psychopath vs. sociopath was informative. Thank you Dr. Hickey.
See my comment above. The story is not real.
I feel like a lot of people here doesn't understand the idea of criminal psychology. It's not about not feeling for the victims, but the mind of the murderer. Someone doing these heinous acts obviously has a mind to be examined thoroughly. I really enjoyed the metaphor for nature vs nurture he did here as well.
On a side note, the netflix series did really well on telling the stories of the victims and how they were affected. Sometimes we can feel so disassociated from true crime stories, but when you actually show how it affected the families it becomes much more disturbing and gives a wider perspective.
NOW THIS, is something im very interested in and want to learn about, which is why i chose BS in criminology once i go to collegee
The problem is they never interviewed or told the families about the Netflix series. So actually that is all mostly fiction, and created to exploit these people all over again. And of course making someone else in Hollywood money.
Do you think he did all that because of past trauma from his childhood or did he do all that for pleasure with no reason?
His childhood trauma played a part ..his pleasure and fantasy came from killing his victims knowing they couldn't abandon or leave him , which is why he was classed as being borderline personality,..he was definitely sociopathic!!
ppl are dense thats why
Dr. Hickey was my professor at Fresno State, Criminology class. Good to see him on here.
Good teacher?
He had my attention all throughout the video!
No way! I currently go to Fresno state. Did you know that they (Fresno state) were trying to obtain jeffrey dahmer’s brain before it was cremated in order to study it?
@@simaorodriguespt yea amazing teacher. Made the class laugh a lot. Ironically being in a dark topic of a class
@@random19273 Wow! Had no idea. That would be pretty epic if they did.
If Buzzfeed keeps doing videos like this, with people who were a part of the case, it may save them from going into the void
for real lmao.
i’m jus waiting patiently for The Watcher to release Ghost Files.
Lmao too real
into the vortex
I was kind of offended for the page’s sake but then compared the Watcher watches and recent 700,000 subscriptions increase just from the past 6 months along with view comparisons showing subscription amount doesn’t mean anything to the much lower watch rate of the recent videos posted by Buzzfeed. Watcher also made their history more fun with Puppet History. And the Drunk Ghost stories and Are You Scared, and just like everything is so much more personal that it makes the knowledge more memorable and fun!. Buzzfeed really did lose some great quality workers and Ryan and Shane weren’t the only ones🤷♂️. I still enjoy their content myself but the rates still speak for themselves. I do like their replacements otherwise but when that quality is still being pumped from the best of the content elsewhere, it’s just not the same respect or quality. Maybe something big will come out about everything that really went down because I feel like Buzzfeed has “guidelines” that business saw as important but viewers were absent to which the bois brought to Watcher and gave us in the best doses.
@@pilly3815 lmao🤣🤣
“Fantasies become reality.” powerful line
I must say the Netflix series casting crew did an amazing job
Yup
So realistic!
@@Silvestian yes, an excellent series albeit gruesome.
I recently watched the "Dahmer" series in Netflix and I agree . It was very powerful and the acting was above par .
i never watch series but i watched the whole thing in one day, & oh wow did they portray it perfectly
PLEASE DO MORE OF THESE WITH PSYCHOLOGISTS! THIS WAS FASCINATING
Is like to see one on Bundy tbh
YES
Except that psychologists are not qualified for anything other than speculation and wild ideas.
@@cincin4515 And that’s evident through…
I would question where he got the sleeping pills from . Cant imagine the best of pills having an effect t where u do not feel ure skull being drilled
I've watched many true crime stories about him. There's only 1 story that mentioned his birth mother & the fact that she had mental illness & while pregnant with him she took over 27 different pills a day including morphine and hormones and other things. Taking all those things while carrying a developing fetus would have to affect the baby's brain development. It's a shame they destroyed his brain it should have been kept for study to understand what happened.
Got that right. However, Pharmaceutical Interests were definitely happy to find out his brain was destroyed. It would've revealed the facts in stone about how so much "medicine" out there is just toxic scurge.
That's never mentioned bc to bring awareness re: the potential effects medications could have on a fetus contradicts the pill popping society by which we live. Personally, I believe both legal and illegal substances are major catalysts for the shitshow that is our world today.
I was so mad when I saw on the series that his dad wanted his brain to be also cremated and no used for study. The fact that they compared him with other serial killers to say that his results were gonna be of a normal human being without even trying to look into it.
If even the mother's stress or emotional problem can already affect the child she is generating, bringing unpredictable consequences, imagine stuffing yourself with this pile of crap and dealing with it in the worst possible way. No wonder the guy became what he became.
@@nondumisosibiya7755 his father was the real psychopath here.
Neglect is abuse. This society needs to take note. Family members need to look out for each other and even live together. Too many isolated lonely souls. God bless his victims. Thank God for these thinkers who are trying to understand his mind.
Man.. this is a side note, but Dahmer's real life father really looks so much like Dahmer's father in the series that aired last week.
Richard Jenkins did a phenomenal job as Dahmer’s Dad.
I said the same thing! LOL
I thought I am the only one noticed that! Haha
That's the point of actor's make up
Yer name lmao!
I've known two different people that were abandoned by a parent that kept their other sibling. One was a boy who's father left with his younger sister(the father took both of them to the movies and left half way through with the sister). The other was a girl who's mother left with her younger brother. They were both train wrecks. Failed relationships, alcohol and drug abuse, anytime they managed to get anything or anyone positive in their life they sabotaged it almost immediately. That kind of trauma does not go away.
Abandonment and attachment disorders are NO JOKE… it really does mess kids up.
I love this comment section, it changes from Instagram where people will tell you you are defending this behavior when you simply understand where it’s coming from
Its a weak excuse. I had a horrible upbringing, abandonment, sexual abuse, violence, etc..I turned out fine. Stop looking for a cause. Theres simply no exact recipe that makes a Serial killer
@@michelrood2966 the world doesn’t revolve around you and your upbringing. Just because you turned out fine doesn’t mean everybody would. And I bet you have coping mechanisms without even realizing it. You are literally discrediting years and years of research. Why do you think profiler exist ? Just because you don’t understand it doesn’t mean it can’t happen. Educate yourself on the subject instead of just talking to talk.
@@michelrood2966 because it’s part nature and part nurture. Maybe it’s not in your nature and that’s great, doesn’t mean it’s not a factor for someone else.
Listening to much of what he did with his victims was very unsettling. May all the families of his victims find peace.
Amen.
Meanwhile people fighting for his eyeglasses on licitation 🤣serious lack of empathy. People are crazy. It's like someone killed your mum and later people get fascinated about the killer and invest money for his belongings so inappropriate.
17:36 Damn, the doctor explains the "dark spot" that Dahmer went into to..and STAYED THERE ALL THE TIME.
High level psychoanalysis: Very insightful and a deep dive into Dahmer's twisted mind.
This psychologist is very well spoken. Well done.
He sounds to me like "a well paid witness" for the dream defense team.
@@patrandolph4209 Dr. Hickey is actually a really awesome guy and does work for both defense and prosecution. One of the top 30 criminal psychologists in the world
@@nicolecunningham9006 tell me why I’m doing a biography about this man and it’s hard finding about his personal life. Any advice?
I was a psychology major, specifically wanting to study criminal psychology and was deeply involved in a "psychology of evil" course that was available. My husband didn't understand my desire to watch the Netflix series, and it certainly wasn't out of some "obsession" with serial killers. I find their minds, and the "how" of their development, to be fascinating. We talk about "toxic masculinity" and how toxic fathers can be, and they can be truly detrimental to daughters; but too often the mothers of little boys are overlooked and not accountable for their roles in the development (or lack thereof) of their sons. I studied the Oedipus Complex in relation to children who were raised by a single parent and later identified as gay, and found that there was a correlation to children being raised, or rejected, by a specific parent. When you are at an age that a child starts to identify with the same sex parent and inherently compete with that parent for the attention of the opposite sex parent, between ages 3-5, if that stage of development is interrupted or secluded to only the parent of the same sex things can get a little "wonky". I think in Dahmer's case, his mothers complete dismissal of him, be it due to her own psychiatric needs or other factors, led him down a path of seeking out the male attention. When his mother abandoned him, AND his father was absent; this presented him with both major abandonment issues and the opportunity to live out fantasies that were unhealthy from the start. The whole case is sad. I see a little boy, who had a mother who wasn't capable of showing affection, a father who had unhealthy ways of bonding with him, and no outlet or form of real guidance of how to become a functioning member of society. I also see a community of people who were largely affected by the outcome of otherwise preventable circumstances. People died, had their corpses desecrated and there was no one watching- and the ones who did notice either went ignored or ignored the signs themselves. The part of the series, whether factually accurate or not, about Tony the man who was deaf- broke me. I saw Dahmer attempting to win the affections of someone who appeared to have genuinely cared for him, and instead of having the tools to nurture the affections of this man- he killed him because of the sum of events his life had already added up to.
Bottom line, love your children. WATCH your children. Watch your neighbors. People are responsible for their own actions, good or bad; but if we hold bad people accountable for their actions against others we have to take personal inventory for our interactions with those "bad" people too... Did you nurture the good in them, or give nature more tools to run its course...?
This is spot on. The whole thing to me was just one enormous lifetime of unrelenting sadness.
Toxic masculinity is not real It's never been proven. That's some woke feminist silly saying.
Exactly.
When you mentioned Oedipus Complex you are explaining Dr. Sigmund Freud's psychoanalytical theory of what causes males to become homosexual. This theory has never been proven to be correct if you study other behavioral theorists after Freud's time. That's why it is called a theory; not a proven fact. I'm not trying to be critical of your comment but I do think that what you said should be clarified a little more.
@@angelajoleefloria2564 that’s correct, it is a theory- one that I studied and found a correlation in the subjects that I personally studied, and it applied to both genders given the situation. I use it as an example of one of many factors that could have played a part in his situation and thought I made that pretty clear; that it was what I thought, not a diagnosis or a statement of facts. But I’m glad you’re familiar with the theory
The scary part about all of this is that these are just the details released to the public. This is just what he felt comfortable telling others. The victims … I am so sad for them. Because it was probably so much worse
Yes but he also wouldn't have had full insight into what made him tick. Noone fully knows their unconscious selves.
@@luchilds very true!
exactly.. there are many speculations whether he killed during service or adam walsh case. just think about other murders that weren't leaked
This is exactly the case.
The details have him having sex with their heads and insides where hidden as it was a overload for the general public
Just horrifying
@@amenaa3174 can you revommend some book on this topic?
This is so crazy how someone who look so normal can be so evil
Agreed. i got chills just thinking about it.
everyone is evil unless they have God inside them. People are just wicked in different ways.
You heard about wars? No? OK!
@@deinurteil1091 men ☕
@@princessmandy1757nope. Thats false. Funny how you glorify sadistic master 🤭🤭🤭
I think this series was beautifully and respectfully done. No killing were shown no sex and no creepy music. It was done in such a way to send the message that many were brutally killed but the exact details of each and every death are none of your business. Bravo.
I totally agree
A few killings were shown I believe.
well.. there were things that u mention in the series, however i think the difference is that they were shown in a very objective way so that it shows the reality of the tragedies as best as possible
i think it’s good that they showed some sexual scenes, and some gore because we can’t deny the severity of the monster’s doings..it was just a chilling series overall
@@yiasminathefangirl the only sex scene I recall was him masterbating at the fair. What I meant by no sex scene shown was they didn't show him physically/sexually penetrating any of his victims.
part of the reason why I'm studying psychology is because with things like this, we actually do not justify wrong doings but we are looking at the reasons and patterns why it was committed. isn't it fascinating how neglect and rejection affects your thoughts and behaviors?
p.s. I'm sure everyone would be interested with Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs, its the perfect guide on how to 'actually' care, love, and nurture your children.
There aren't any patterns or reasons for those who become serial killers, let alone killers. No one knows.
@@doveyhandwand you are so wrong it’s funny
Rejection and shame are gateways to demonic oppression.
Keep studying..you've only just begun
I truly love learning the minds of criminals. It’s matter of why for me and what kind of connections led them to be this way. I feel that it’s my path but I’m just reading on the side. Continue to be curious to educate yourself in the wonderful field of psychology.
In the words of Dr. Robert Block, the former President of the American Academy of Pediatrics, "Adverse childhood experiences are the single greatest unaddressed public health threat facing our nation today."
It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men. -Frederick Douglass
This is also a testament that everyone should be aware of themselves and control is vital for healthy ways of life
Imagine living in the kind of mind where you think you have to kill people to feel loved and keep them from leaving. It’s so difficult to comprehend that kind of existence but I appreciate those who study these people for providing some understanding.
Very true
A lot of it was for sadistic, sexual gratification tho…
@@bamazing2731 Yes, that’s also difficult to comprehend. Even more so, even.
@@bamazing2731 it wasn’t sadistic. Didn’t you watch the video? He didn’t torture them but drugged them before killing them so they wouldn’t suffer. He was a sociopath not a psychopath
So weird. Sociopaths seem oppressed by evil. Psychopaths seem possessed by evil.
I experienced trauma at 17 and have been dissociating ever since. Can’t imagine experiencing that earlier in life.
My cousin's father beat them constantly and told them not to cry after a while he shot their mother in the head and then himself. They had children and they may be rough around the edges but they're not serial killers
@@jeanninebuquet9635 epigenetics plays a role.
You need help
having a traumatic childhood with all those abandonment issues is one thing, but growing up with no social support is really another vital point. it’s cliché to say but he was outcasted, to a point of badly messing up his social skills and eventually his coping mechanism. he was given a lot of tough times but not a chance to be heard. the complex anxiety (of being left behind) in him pushed him to doing what it takes to control the people he get attached to, hence controlling the situation and not having to deal with them leaving (so he thought)
empathic listening does not mean you agree with someone - especially Dahmer and all the other serial killers - but it’s essentially trying to understand what they go through
I agree; it's important to understand why and how they turned out that way to prevent it from happening again. Hopefully reducing future harm
One thing, I do think he had the opportunity to see a therapist (yes I understand it was a fraught thing at the time, but still) and Dahmer only went to one appointment and none after that. This is one of the few instances where he had the possibility to be heard and turned it down.
A lot of people go through worse and come out as good people, there is certainly some amount of inherit good and evil in us that we have no control over.
A lot of people go through worse and come back fine because different people have different tolerance levels and mental capacities. This video itself highlights this fact.
@@playz8538I know people who been through worse and they didn’t kill.
I don’t get that.
Great interview! Thank you for exploring “the why”. Many people are too afraid to go beyond “because he’s evil”, because they think any type of explanation will be looked at excusing the behavior.
Dr. Hickey hands down one of the best professors I had at Fresno state! Glad to see him on here explaining the criminal psychology aspect of Dahmers behavior and actions!!
I had him too! He and Dr. Jackson almost made me rethink my future career because they were so good.
I LOVED his class! I'm fangirling a little right now
And he did a good job as well 👏🏻👏🏻
So why didn’t he mention the fact dude was a pedo ? Go blow a horse …
Jigsaw?
Jeffrey's mom emits coldness. Most serial killers have mommy issues. It is the lack of love from a mother that triggers violence in a man. If your own mother who brought you into this world don't care about you, why will anyone do?
Luckily my mom chosen the best for me and have me raised in a prominent family no one can defeat.
His mother had mental illness and did not bond with him at birth. But his father could have stepped in more - instead he was absent and distant, off whetting his whistle inside some othe bird. Both are to blame, though its still damn rare for such a child to become a necrophiliac serial murderer.
NONSENSE!
Why will anyone do ? Wtf ?
@@marykinuthia6067 ….❓
This criminal psychologist is inspirational! Making such a complex individual come to light in the way he explained makes all the sense in the world. Amazing.
Dr Eric is an outstanding criminal psychologist. A true respective professional.
After watching the Netflix series this was really enlightening to me on the reasons why he did what he did. This psychologist explained it perfectly. Dahmer was fascinating and terrifying, it’s quite sad he didn’t just get help when he was a child and maybe none of this would have happened.
Agree 👍
That's where you're wrong. Most of this would have still happened because we have the benefit of, hindsight after he had been caught. He literally told everybody in interviews that he was the only person to blame. He literally says it wasn't his parent's fault, police, nobody.
Do not make excuses for him. He clearly didnt, so now we have to hold him accountable for his actions.
He was most likely using reverse psychology on people when he said a lot of the stuff he said. Why? Because now you're questioning the parents and parenting instead of holding him accountable. That's how he wins. Thousands of comments on every Jeffrey dahmer video but little to no condolences go to his victims and their family. That's how he wins.
@@itsmesteve1081 Socrate unce said: The one who needs to be helped between the man who made bad things and the one who is victim of, is the bad man, because the victim has nothing to blame on himself, but the bad man does. Also, I think that he admitted evrything he did because his father was a good father who teached him how to be a good boy, and this could be why he tried to do something good after every brutalities he did. It's my own opinion. But if I follow the logic of manipulation, every serial killer and every rich people on this planet are all manipulator.
He may have had dark thoughts on his childhood, the problem was the lack of emotional support. If his family was there for him, he could've shared these thoughts and ask for guidance with them. The only problem is that he felt alone, and no one was there to tell him what he was thinking was very wrong. Parents should be there for their child.
He says in an interview that's not true. He said he had always had this impulse inside of him to kill people and do the things he did to their body.
Remember that the netflix tv show and other movies are just that. Tv shows and movies. They have been altered from real life to fit a certain narrative.
In real life the only thing we know 100% is that Jeffrey dahmer killed 15 men and two boys.
You may have dark thoughts, but I dont think you would kill dozens of people to feel good about yourself. That goes out to everybody who isnt a person like Jeffrey dahmer, who statistically, is most of humanity.
Please no remembering Dahmer.
How many millions of children are neglected? some even flourish. None I know saw humans like a butcher, or the most sadistic acts we cannot imagine.
I get it but are you sympathizing with a serial killer?
NONSENSE!
Wow, this just lays it all out! It made me cry. So interesting to learn that Dahmer was not a psychopath (but a Sociopath instead combined with Paraphilia etc) and that Ted Bundy was and the reasons why. I think that emotional and physical abandonment really played a part here whether or not it was intentional from the parents.
Dr.Hickey, you have truly compassionately and humanely shed wisdom and light on the hidden nature of this tragic and dark, dark soul. Thank you.
As someone who is interested in psychology, this video is very well done. Thanks for uploading.
It hit deep in the series when he said "why does everybody leave me".
I always wanted to know why some people are murderers and partly why I decided to study Psychology at university. As you study the degree, you realize the enormous amount of variables that can be behind human behavior, and the eternal nature vs nurture debate, it is incredibly complex and interesting. I loved the vision provided by the psychologist.👏🏻🧠
It’s hard to hear about Dahmer and not be instantly disgusted. When I watch interviews with him and Richard Kuklinski “the iceman”, I get such a feeling of sadness from them. Terrible actions taken, but once they were children who wanted connection and had affections they deserved to get and give. If anything can come of this it’s to know children need to feel that they are cared about, otherwise you get adults who are out to hurt other people and that includes people who aren’t serial killers.
“Parenting is so important” is so true a lot of things from broken parenting but hurt people hurt people 💯
It's a bit of a generalization to suggest that 'hurt people hurt people 100%'. 1) have you knowledge of every case of abuse since the world began? 2) there are many who've been abused and do no such thing.
Parenting is so important. I wish more people cared.
Lots of people come from difficult childhoods…. 99% of them doing become killers.
As a therapist I distress. Most people from “broken homes” don’t harm others. There is never an excuse -- psychopaths like this kind of excuse making.
there is plenty of people that had horrible childhoods that did not do what Dahmer did. I have no pity for him.
on top of that he had fantasies. that doesnt justify what he did but you cant understand if youve never had dark and disturbing thoughts like that
No is giving pity, but more of an explanation of how it got to that point. Still no excuse of course
whataboutism
To me, it’s not about having sympathies, but about understanding how this CAN happen. Sure it’s rare, but with the wrong genetics, environment, childhood, and circumstances clearly, can create a monster… if he’s parents had been more stable, would he have gone so far? We will never know. However, it can help us try to prevent this type of behaviour… be more present, pay more attention to our kids. Knowing the warning signs. It’s helpful from a preventative and research perspective. I can have sympathy for the 6 year old dahmer… who lived in chaos…. But no sympathy for the adult monster he became.
i don't think these sort of videos are ever meant to invoke pity or sympathy for people who have done horrible, inexcusable things. criminal psychologists whole job is to establish personal connections to these people in order to study what even possibly causes this sort of stuff. and it's been found that as much as mental illness can be hereditary, there are also HUGE components relating to childhood trauma. in fact, borderline personality disorder, one of the conditions listed, is strongly believed to be mainly caused by significant childhood neglect.
all of it is to help better understand psychology behind criminal acts. things like why necrophiles, like he said, very rarely have intent to hurt people, but instead outright turn to killing to serve their purpose. figure out if there's anything that does cause people to jump to this level of behavior, if there's underlying factors (like a history of mental illness) that need to be present to cause outside factors to trigger this behavior, etc.
*TLDR:* no one is expected to pity people like Dahmer (even though many people do anyways,) all of these sort of studies and analyses are meant to help people better understand what can be done to prevent or treat these urges or actions.
The whole story of Jeffrey Dahmer is so terrifying to me. As a gay man I would have been very physically attracted to Dahmer. I would have gone home with him from a bar. I think of the times I did go home with a stranger from a bar. We even had a serial killer in the city that I live who picked up most of his victims from a bar I frequented. You just never know. It's like a horrible game of Russian roulette.
Hey you, be careful. Dont go home with ppl u dont know. Take care of yourself. If this series taught me something is that we cant trust ppl so easily.
Be careful x
@@Jennifahh yes super agreee its always a reminder and a lesson not to trust people
This can happen to anyone regardless of sexual attraction. People need to be very careful especially with alcohol. I have been drugged and taken advantage of. Please be safe
@@Jennifahh so you needed a serial killer documentary to teach you that.
Is it Stephen Port?
I was watching a court hearing with the victim who actually escaped and got the police. He stated that dahmer seemed like a good guy…until he wasn’t. It’s pretty scary to think about. Even in his interviews etc he seemed almost humble, good natured, etc. just shows you what some people are capable of.
Edwards? I watched his statement too.
We all have darkness inside but others have just the most darkness that you cannot fathom.
@@beckscald3855 Yes! It was so interesting! He said that he was so normal then completely shifted his whole personality once Edwards was in the apartment and couldn’t get free. It’s just scary to think of how many people out there you meet every day who are the same. Wild.😬
@@a.c.4190 there's more people than you'd think but luckily we know more about it now. Those people can get help.
What a great analysis, lived hearing this man! I’ll need to look him up and look more into his work!
Ive noticed in a lot of serial killer docs that they seem to be immune to bad smells. I had a friend that was creepy and displayed a lot of psychopathic tendencies and he had practically no ability to smell. So if you want to test if someone you know or meet is a potential psychopath then a smell test might be a good tool.
That’s really interesting, I bet there is something there. If they can’t smell something horrific, it doesn’t deter them
People with Parkinson’s reportedly lose their sense of smell.
idk if he was immune to the smell or he just slowly became conditioned to find it sexually arousing
I wonder if anyone ever did scientific research on this topic? Quite fascinating 👏
Interesting point, however I would bet there's many people who haven't got an acute sense of smell and they are not serial killers. Many people with allergies like hay fever, can't smell very well a lot of the time.
After losing my sense of smell for a few days after having covid, I can see it would be quite depressing not to be able to Smell.
I love how neutral he explains this case, i wanna know more about him explaining other cases.
I go to Walden University and Dr. Hickey was my professor. He is excellent!!
Not neutral enough imo. He was too easy on the parents/family because he knew them personally.
Dr. Hickey was one of my doctoral professors when I was working on my PhD in forensic psychology. He is a wealth of knowledge, and it was great to see him talk about Dahmer.
I took Dr. Hickey’s Criminal Psychology class at Fresno State around 2002 - I very much enjoyed his perspectives and approach to education. Hope you’re doing well, Dr. Hickey!
It’s a shame he was never able to express his insecurities. It’s a shame he chose to act on the dark fantasies rather than try to meet someone who might understand and accept him. Society is awful that way, though. Rejection is real and it’s an epidemic.
He wanted total control it's pretty hard to find someone like that
literally who could’ve he talked to at that point 😟
@@echohotel7975 it's true but I don't think it was always like that at start he did tried to find love but many just wanted hook up so at certain point he gave up .
Shame is the real problem
Well there is no society, there are only other humans. If someone goes in the forest and never approaches other people he goes off the lonely tangent.
What an upsetting story. This goes to show how important mental health really is. How parenting and family plays such an important role in cases like this. There's no happy ending here, but we can work together as a society and a community to learn how to take care and help people that feel like Jeffrey. 💔
EXACTLY. AMEN. And thats also why it makes it a sad story, because it doesn't have a happy ending, it starts messy and bad, and ends horrible worng, something that could have been prevented with nurture and good parenting, something so important and essencial ... that's why its sad.
Yes! That's why schools should focus on student peer outreach. Try to include the low key, shy students into social activity groups from primary school and throughout student life. I bet it would make a world of difference!
He obviously needed help. But. Fro the day we are born. We all know. Wrong from right. Its very sad. And help is needed
@@rachelgreen4510 bv o
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Do not feel sorry for him. He killed 17 people.
5:40 this is what scares me the most. The fact that anyone could end up like this due to lacking the skills to be intimate is really scary. Growing up I never really had any close friends because I found it hard to relate to my peers and I preferred to be alone. However, I also believed that intimate relationships and friendships were bad (partly because my hermit parents would vent to me about how bad humans are and how relationships are just a waste of time). I just graduated high school and although I don't have that toxic mindset where I hate people because I thought they were evil, I'm still really insecure about myself since I have no friends. I've also always been on the chubbier side growing up (until I got anorexia), but since then I gained all the weight back and more, making me stay inside instead of allowing myself to be seen in the public.
Although I've tried to make friends this year, some of them ghosted me, and others I rarely talk to. I know I have a lot of problems with socializing, and I feel like with my insecurities and lack of social skills, I'll never be able to make any friends or even get into a relationship.
I'm not saying everyone with this problem will become a desperate for love serial killer, but my point is if we don't get out of this cycle of social isolation, we will have the drive to do unimaginable things. That's what scares me so much about myself...
Pray that God guides you to change in your life and you become whole in Jesus Christ name.
i read your post. start working out and eat healthy . you will feel way better in 3 months
@@keziaTHATeveryoneLOV thanks for the advice!
@@danjames6620 thanks for the advice! I tried to eat healthier and exercise and within that time I also forced myself to reach out to a former classmate that I used to talk to and we hung out. Although I haven't really stayed consistent about taking care of myself I feel like a huge weight has been taken off of my shoulders after hanging out just once. But yeah you're right how you treat your body makes or breaks your mindset.
I wrote one of my highschool essays on this topic!!! I think it’s such an interesting perspective to have!
Dr.Hickey was my favorite Proffesor at CSU Fresno . He was the reason why I picked to be a sociology major. It was a trip down memory lane seeing him here !!!!!
This is very understandable and familiar to me. As a little girl I was sexually abused by my father and brother. From then on I had a promiscuous lifestyle and ended up working in prostitution. I was full of rage, agression, hatred and bitterness because of what was done to me as a child. I started hating men so much that I fantasised about them standing in front of me and then me proceeding to kill them all with just a gunshot in their heads. Yes this is what happens in the heads of people who have been raised "differently". How my story turned out? Thank my God it didn't go so far. Jesus found me in my lost condition and saved my life. Today I am a believer in Christ and all of my pain and suffering is gone. He healed all my heartache and made a human out of me. I have truly forgiven everyone who has ever hurt me and I believe in true love and a healthy relationship. So we do not justify the deeds of people but every story has 2 sides. Your upbringing enforces your choices in life. And yes, I know we all have a free will, but honestly life can be really hard on people when they are very young. So yes, I do have compassion for victims and I have compassion for criminals. I do not justify one's behaviour but by the grace of my God I can look at a murderer and have compassion on his soul. Honestly each one of us has the potential to be a murderer, just that life has beaten up some people more than others. Don't forget that we were all once a child. Giving you the right circumstances and environment everyone of us would kill. We actually have no idea how evil our human nature can be. We can be nice to strangers and mean to our famiy members. 🤫
Thank you for sharing- but I do hope your father and brother were jailed
I'm deeply sorry for the pain you had to go through sister... 🙏
@@alessandroricciardi7317 no problem. It is all in the past and even the memory of it doesn't hurt anymore. If you look at it at the positive side, now I can tell people in the same situation how Christ changed my life snd things can be normal again. 😁
I’m so sorry to hear this.
On our best of days, we are a child of God
On our worst of days, we are still, a child of God.
That’s how much He loves us. All glory to Him.
You're sick to have compassion for this dude, he didn't go through anything that bad.
This guy is really good at explaining super complicated and uncomfortable topics. He must have been such a great professor.
this is very educational. please do more episodes like this, where you get an expert explain cases/criminals thoroughly 🙏
“The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?”
“Nature loads the gun and nurturing pulls the trigger”
an amazing quote
Fire!
The presence of a mother at home is so essential for children, the abandonment truly messed him up. I think he never saw his mom after she left, that’s truly horrible. The insecurity, loneliness and lack of self-esteem propulse him to search for love but he was so inept and feeling of inferiority that he killed.
Detective Murphy said he didn’t have friends and there was no phone calls to friends or acquaintances for the past five years.
Dahmer said he was a loner by choice he didn't want friends. Stop blaming what he chose to do on his mom. Dahmer said she was a comforting woman and chose not to go with her because he was going to start college soon. Stop buying into what her bitter ex husband said about her, it's unfair.
That is an amazing overview of this case. Very well done. As a therapist, it really help me to find a diagnose that makes sense for his case.
Parents, love your kids. They need you. Not your money, not your words alone, they need your heart and soul.
JESUS HAVE MERCY MY SOUL WAS LOST
True!
I interviewed doctor Hickey senior year of high school, he is the best. Super nice and super knowledgeable
As a true crime listener,
It's sickening to see how a past can mold us to what we are today, at present it sounds so terrifying... but the only thing is :
• It's our choice whether we learn to be better than our past or be worse and lose empathy..
Mr.Dahmer chose the easy way, he let his past consume him knowing it's dangerous and therefore he, himself led this dark path crawl with him and his mind which took his life.
I do agree with your comment, partially. I was myself severely abused all throughout my childhood by both my parents (in every way that abuse can occur). For some reason, the way I dealt with it was to turn my confusion and distress inward, which resulted in many decades of depression, suicidal thoughts, and various coping mechanisms that hurt me. Thankfully, many years later, I have made great strides in my healing, and I have a much better understanding of what happened to me.
I wonder if it really is a "choice" in how individuals deal with their emotional pain? I don't remember ever making a conscious choice that I was going to have empathy and compassion for others, rather than turning to hurting others to relieve my pain. I just am who I am.
I've honestly never had thoughts of taking someone's life, or torturing someone. But some people DO have these thoughts, and sadly they carry out those thoughts into actions.
What it is exactly that causes a person to have evil thoughts? It's a question that perhaps can never be answered with absolute certainty.
Fascinating, how easy one becomes so evil and yet able to hide it.
you should watch the new dahmer series it kind of explains it
@@pilly3815 only to a certain extent. Many people have had similar or even worse upbringings and don't commit the same horrors. All in all, we can understand how he came to be
@@amobaleiasassassinas those people may not have had the same combo of mental issues as JD.
@@amobaleiasassassinas Yes I agree, in an interview Jeffrey even admit to what he did, he did not blame his parents or inappropriate content, he even said that he himself is the one to blame behind all of this. However, I want to add in one more thing. The show not only shows the worse upbringings, it also shows how social injustice contributes to it. Him being able to do such things and yet being able to hide it for so long.
@@amobaleiasassassinas yeah but not everyone is subject to the same brain chemistry and chemical makeup either... You never know how ANYONE can and will react to different situations
Man it's always the childhood. It's always one good parenting away from the worst case scenario. As a psych major, this case is really interesting to look at with different lenses of personality theories. Also loved the analogy he used fo nature vs. nurture, Imma steal that.
His gun metaphor implies that the fundamental shape of male potential is an object of destruction, and in that sense it's a terrible (general) metaphor. Given proper socialization the shape of male potential can become just as profound an object of creation as it can become an object of destruction given the absence of proper socialization. The kind of madness that characterized Jeffery Dahmer is rooted in exactly the same basic motivational structure that characterizes great geniuses of creativity and innovation like Newton, Mozart, and Da Vinci. In the perfect words of Camille Paglia: "there is no female Mozart, because there is no female Jack-the-Ripper".
He would’ve killed no matter what, that impulse was in him
@@XxCOOKEExxMONSTARxX Perhaps. I seriously doubt it though. The psychologist is correct in saying that Jeffery Dahmer was not a psychopath.
@@lancewalker2595 all of these "psychologist" are hacks. Another psychologist said Jeffrey was a psychopath then another said he was a sociopath.
@@8luvbug Psychopathy describes a condition in which one rendered incapable of experiencing emotion... to suggest that Jeffery Dahmer wasn't highly emotional is just silly. He literally killed and ate people to escape his feelings of rejection, and loneliness.
For those who don't know, Dahmer's brother David, changed his name after the trial.
Okay professor
I don't blame him
Wouldn’t you?👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
00:26 Cop:We ought to gather evidence.
Detective: Don't worry I have a Hickey.
I love to his interpretation of dahmers mentality. The only thing is I really wanted to know how this affected his brother. He started the conversation with that and I thought he was going to circle back to it at some point but he never did. I really want to know how his brother went through all this and how it affected him
the brother i am pretty sure changed his name for privacy reason obv. so maybe he did it out of respct
This is a great question. I would also love to know
Great question, I also , wouldn’t want people to know I am Jeffrey’s brother
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I am truly intrigued about this also but the brother does not want the past and all the negative attention brought back to life.
Same actually.
I believe the abandonment caused a lot of problems for him and that’s why he wanted to keep he’s victims close. He’s parents had a profound affect. No love at all. The mother just leaving is evil and think this caused most he’s problems from then. The rejection theory speaks volumes. Great video.
Great video.
absolute rubbish.
Then why was he having sick fantasies before his parents even left?
I agree to a certain extent...the analogy used by the professor regarding nature/nurture was genius...I've always been intrigued by Dahmer and always thought his behaviour was a mixture of nature and nurture....quite fascinating
I'm not saying there's no relationship here. But the vast, vast majority of people who experience traumatic abandonment do not go on to become murderous cannibals. There has to be something wrong with you to begin with to become this way regardless of what happens to you in life.
it’s insidious how dahmer used living in a predominantly black/poc community to get away with being unnoticed by law enforcement.
That’s what he could afford….
@@toughntiny lmao are you serious? When Jeffery was committing his murders he didn’t do them all in one area yet he still specifically targeted black, brown and Asian people out of all of the victims. no matter what community he was in. He knew that his racial identity brought him a certain level of privilege that could protect him to an extent and if you did your research you’d know that many victims families/poc witnesses who reported on him numerous times were ignored. And the poc victims families were also ignored and dismissed in court for other crimes.
His family stopped bankrolling him by then.
I don't see evidence of him looking for a demographic that the police would ignore, that's by accident, gay men during the aids epidemic, black and poor young men. He was broke. He doesn't seen like the sophisticated killer who plotted which neighbourhood to hit. He could also have just had a thing for dark skin
even when it’s about a serial killer from 1980 y’all tryna to turn it into race lmfao. losers
There's a huge oversight in the video. If Jeffrey was this remorseful and unwilling murderer, why did he then brag and joke around about his crimes in prison? Something doesn't add up
I understand a lot of these comments about the Dr being seemingly unsympathetic enough towards the victims..(R.I.P.)...this video though is about the psychology of Dahmer's brain and how that can help us try to understand this man who was a monster. What can make a man do things so abnormal? Why? What was his purpose? Reasoning? I found it fascinating. I don't have to agree with all of the Drs. assessments but I do find them all really interesting to think about. I loved how he explained nature vs nurture. That was simplifying it but so well done.
its wrong though, Dahmer WAS a sadist, there are victims of his who are alive who he beat and raped when he was drunk in the army. He also laughed about how he killed people and that's why he was murdered in prison.
As a psych major honestly it’s pretty difficult to sugar coat many of the things we learn and talk about.! Imagine when your just starting out and learning about all these different types of mental illnesses or crimes.! I think people forget this is reality it’s only so many ways to discuss ones mental health especially a murderer! It’s gruesome but someone has to do the job.
Agreed. It's just our current form of puritanism. It wasn't too long ago that doctors had to pay people to dig up bodies to study the inner workings of the body for science because the concept was taboo. We are still that backwards about women's health studies. Here we have yet another case of psychology in regards to someone that is the closest thing to a monster we legit have. It doesn't surprise me in the least that there are as many people that are speaking against this as they are with no room for reasonable conversation.
I'm surprised that no one has called him "possessed" or "satanic." Apparently THAT'S more applicable than the possibility that he was deficient in his formative years very much due to his upbringing and he never got that back.
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I think the scary part about this, is there’s many people out in the world who go threw tough situations, and they might somehow think of hurting someone. They just don’t act on it. Then you have people like Dahmer who was trying to find a way to cop with his emotions by killing people.
Glad youve learned something
People always seem to di miss dahmer as some weirdo or freak however harsh reality is that we all have that darkness inside us but we are not acting on it .
To be honest I'm that person. I have a sister who come into my life as brother and sister and family love but turns out that she corrupt my foster mother against me. I was arrested one time when I break out her house window.
I came from a wicked family that praise rejection and lack of communication. I was thinking of stabbing my sister but I didn't.
She didn't even bury our biological father and she live with him for years as child but end up make man pregnant her and was throw out of school.
We are not far of What he becomed, everyone has that evil in them
What an incredible doctor, the way he explains and speaks about these things was so interesting and articulated that I immediately went ahead and bought one of his books, I could hear speaking for hours
Absolutely fascinating. The human psyche is so vast and complex… It’s so… interesting and intriguing why people are the way they are, and do what they do.
I think Dahmer was one of the most complex serial killers.
Probably because he wasn't a psychopath, therefore he had more depth of character and emotion (granted, you don't get that sense from his video clips or pictures; he just looks blank and monotone).
I often find that psychopathic killers are one-dimensional and boring, as if they're missing that key element that makes a person creative and unique. They're just a template that's been painted black.
I did a thesis on Jeffrey Dahmer in my Psych class... I disagree that he didn't want to hurt them... he drilled holes in their heads and poured acid in to try to make them zombie like... It's the crime scene photos that really take you into another world... It's beyond disturbing
they were still alive!!! YES!!! he literally said he wanted to turn these people into zombies, which turns out it was not “instant death”. it was incredibly sadistic. having “sex slaves” is objectifying as it is, now doing these experiments while they were alive is another level of sadism.
Yah well take the professionals word over some guy who got a C in psych 101
@@moonstone777 It was never about sadism with Dahmer. Never at all. We may think it’s sadistic, but that had zero to do with his mind/actions. It was about being part of his victims & keeping them close. A longing he couldn’t satisfy to not be alone.
@@snowy12841 don't romanticise it. the dude was a cannibalistic murderer, simple as.
@@leaf6356 but there is a psychological reason. It’s not a dismissal of the disgusting murders to have an explanation behind why he did it. It was obvious he wanted people to not leave him, disgusting and unreasonable to a normal person.
Over and over, everywhere I look is the recurrent message; emotional attachment to primary caregivers is paramount.
As a psychology student this video is so interesting and beautiful
Same! I’m a student in psych too. Also, i suffer from BPD, and have Been in therapy for years. I see SO MANY severe BPD features/ DSM criteria in Dhamer. As a fellow psych student, I’m curious if you agree with this? I truly believe he had BPD.
@@Stephaniesque yeahhh so true..
i actually had hickey as a professor hes an awesome dude
This is a really interesting video. I love the high quality editing and the expertise of Dr. Hickey
This is by far the worst video/interview I've seen about a horrific psychopath, manipulator serial killer.
Wow; I haven’t finished watching this yet but it’s really great - it’s so hard to find new material like this. This is probably my favorite type of true crime material, hearing the experts reflect. Great job 🙌🏻
Ngl pretty smart to prep this vid for when the Netflix series dropped.
The fact that his mom left him, completely abandoning him and the fact that later on when he started his crimes his modus operandi was that he wanted his victims to “Always be with me.” Is so eerie. 💔
My heart not only breaks for the victims and their families but for his childhood self that was not cared for properly and needed help but never received it.
Lots of people failed this man.