The WEIRDEST TAIL on any Skateboard!
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- Опубліковано 11 бер 2024
- After riding the Antihero Green Giant deck for a few weeks I wanted to try a similar shape that Heroin Skateboards make, which is this 9.8" Stingee Thingee Deck
This was also the first time experimenting and re drilling my wheelbase to extend it longer.
The heroin stinger deck always looked weird in pictures but now it’s kinda growing on me!
Looks sick once it’s set up
I was the opposite, it looked sick in the photos but looked so odd in real life at first 😂
@@LeonPaxton haha, to me it looked odd in photos. lol also... probably not the easiest thing to skate, I have a few boards like that Ill buy em to have them for the shape. but doesn't it skate super easy no. lol
use it as a cruiser would be sick, with big wheels soft
That's a good idea actually! I might just set this thing up as a cruiser instead lol
I noticed that spin tricks popped better off the shovel side, and flip tricks off the rounded end. GL with the madness
I noticed that too and there is less chance for your board to flip when you don't want it to (trying 360 shuvs & big spins) since the tail is more flat and less rounded!
Haha thanks, I'm going deep into the madness hole here 😂
Liking the experimentation! I often wonder if those 7+ noses couldn’t be sacrificed for a tad more wheel base myself.
Thanks dude! Yeah you can definitely afford to move your front truck up but it compromised my tail for sure moving my back truck further out lol
Really into your content with product reviews and skating Leon. Good on you for experimenting and changing around with different boards. Big fan of the channel man.
I’m guessing the generic size range is 8.25” -14.25wb 8.5 - 14.5wb.
I’m going to settle and adjust to that.
Thanks dude, appreciate that a lot 🙏🏼
Yeah man, that's probably the average specs that most boards are made to for sure
God damn dude. Yellow rail back tail goodness 😍
Haha thanks dude! The shuv out definitely felt good 🙌🏼
love the wheel wells
I'm starting to prefer wheel wells on my decks more and more now lol
Looks like a çool shape 😎👍👊 still not skated a Heroin board but hopefully next few months, need some wider trucks also lol 😅
Yeah dude, they are so fun! They have a lot of different sized boards so you could definitely find one to suit your current truck size 👌🏼
I got too deep into the board madness that I dont even give a fuck anymore 😂
Wow you sound like me. I can ride whatever now. Just nothing to light. And I’ll be ok. Heavy for me works
Yeah dude, the madness is real at the moment 😂
Hopefully I can find the right set up or just stop caring about it lol
@@LeonPaxton the videos are sick bro! Your channel has taught me so much
Thanks so much man, glad I can help!
@@LeonPaxton keep trying the new boards tho! It’s so sick, for me I found what wheelbase works best regardless of board size, I think 😂
I still need to try a few more boards
i did the same thing with a dogtown dressen board but i shortened the wheelbase and just the back truck. it made it so much more comfortable for me. thats how i realized i like a shorter wheelbase around 14in. i used the same technique except i put the bolts in the 5 6 th holes and drill ed the front holes.
Sick! Did it feel weird having a longer tail though?
@@LeonPaxton it felt easier and a lot more comfortable. like the difference between a race car and a lincoln
I have 3 heroin x mandy double shovel 9.5. Love that shape.
Oh sick! I feel like the double shovel might feel more natural in a way than this hybrid shape does 🤔
you should try the black label Jason Adams (Live free or die/curb shark/Punk Point Deck). i rode one for like 10 years it has a BIG POINTY NOSE. -------9.5" x 32.75"
14.58" Wheelbase
6.75" Tail, 7.2" Nose , you could put the trucks way up the nose to make a 15 inch wheelbase because its so big and has a lot of flat on it.
Hey Leon, love ya work dude.
Sick to see a fellow aussie ripping big ol boards.
What size trucks did you run on the green giant bro?
I chickened out on a shaped deck because of truck sizing worries haha.
Ive just set up a classic eagle 9 with 169s.
Thanks so much man, appreciate that a lot!
Haha all good! I was running 9" trucks on that bad boy 👌🏼
That 9" eagle deck is so good!
Cheers man, my 169s should be perfect then.
I love it, re-learning to skate after 17 years (never learned much the first time) and that orange eagle is the first deck ever that I felt was big enough for me.
I'm a big guy too, 6'6, no wonder 7.75s always felt like kids boards 😂
Yeah they will be sweet 👌🏼
Haha yeah I still trip out when I step on a homies 8" board, they feel so tiny these days lol
You could try thunder trucks that would extend your wheelbase if you ride indys but they don't turn as well.Also check life skateboard decks they make plenty of 15" plus decks
Yeah I thought about that but I'm enjoying my wide turning lol
Oh sick dude, I'll check them out for sure. Thanks!
I am also experiencing full on board madness trying to find that perfect board. I tried the andy anderson egg, felt too thin. tried the heroin double shovel, felt too big. tried the heroin gator and didnt like how narrow the kick and nose felt. tried a 9" popsicle and hated it. JUST tried the welcome golem 9.25 and feels too thin in the back. I just ordered a symmetrical board from lifeskateboards but in the mean time im digging my welcome boline 2 board the most but id still rather have a more square nose and tail. If i could get the andy anderson egg in a 9.5" i think that would be the one.
Yeah dude, I'm going deep down the hole at the moment 😂
I've heard good things about that Welcome board! I'm looking at trying one of them out myself soon 🤔
Damn, hopefully you come across the perfect board for you soon 🤞🏽
@@LeonPaxton Just got the Anti-hero Ten curbmandments deck and its hands down my most favorite board so far in all my board madness. Basically a Welcome Golem shape but slightly bigger. I think its the same as the green giant just in a different graphic. So far my most favorite non symmetrical board, absolutely love it.
You should check out the Drifter skateboards blank decks. They have a bunch of different shapes that all come in a 15 inch wheel base.
Thanks dude, I'll go check them out now 🙏🏼
@@LeonPaxton I don’t know if they have them on the website anymore but they have them on the Shop app. Also solid video as always!
Ok sweet, I'll have a look man. Thanks!
Thanks heaps man, thanks for watching 🙏🏼
Leon, I have the Heroin Seeing Double Shovel and considered doing the same thing with it. It's got pretty steep concave and no wheel wells. Did you have any issues with wheel bite when you extended the wheelbase? Looks like it worked out pretty well!
Nah dude, I didn't get any wheel bite at all but I'm skating Slappy trucks which have the best turn without getting wheel bite so maybe the trucks helped me a lot with that
Cool. Thanks!@@LeonPaxton
I’m going through the same wheelbase madness right now lol 6”4 been skating for 20 plus years been on 8.75 since 2016 and have skated nothing but polar and quasi in that size but they all have had 14.375-14.5 wb, so i tried a 8.75 Brian Anderson anti hero which has the 14.62 wb which feels perfect but having the same problem with the tail feeling too short. ESP with thunder 151’s my 360 flips suffered the most. The tail is supposed to be 6.68 but I measured it and it’s about 6.5 with a 7.25 nose. Still searching for a 14.75 wb with a longer tail instead of nose. My other setup is a 8.38 krooked with 14.25 wb and 6.75 tail and my flip tricks all pop and scoop so much better but I lose the comfort of the 8.75 because I wear a size 12 👎 also that back tail shuv was excellent lol
Oh dude, that madness is real! Yeah I can see that actually, your 360 flips would take more effort now with a longer wheelbase. I don't know if it's true or not but I've heard that some April boards come with a bigger tail than nose and a lot of their riders even skate their boards backwards because they want the bigger kick at the front 🤔
Damn, hopefully you can find something with the right width & wheelbase combo you need! I'm still on the hunt myself lol
Thanks dude! 🙏🏼
Where I'm from, we call those hurricanes but only if you rotate back out the same way you came in. 😁
I love hurricanes!
How do you like the slappy trucks compared to indy or thunders?
Oh dude, Slappy trucks are something else! They are literally my favourite trucks that I've had in years lol
I've just set up some Ace AF1 Hollows recently just to see if riding lighter trucks will help me since I'm always riding such big boards but I'll be looking to try the Slappy Hollows next for sure 🙌🏼
You might wana check out boardpushers's 9.75 egg w/ 7" kick/nose and 14.25" wheelbase and 32.5" length
Thanks man, I'll check them out for sure!
I’m thinking you like longer wheelbases is because of your height and shoe size! I don’t think someone with a small foot could manage a longer bigger board and retain flip tricks the same way you do!
Facts. It’s like Brian Anderson he’s so tall he rides 9in board with 15wheelbase
Yeah dude, that's exactly why! It just feels more comfortable to me because of my size for sure
your aim on hurricanes is insane
I feel like i revert in the air last second to get around into it 😂
Leon, check out the ANTI-HERO GERWER GRIMPLE 10 inch egg. It has a 14.62 wheelbase
For sure man! I'm just waiting for that one to come to Aus so I don't have to pay so much for shipping 😅
I want the double shovel so bad!
I feel like the double shovel would almost feel more natural than this hybrid shape lol 🤔
I ride Stage 4 too, and with all my 15" WB shaped decks I jump my wheel base in to shorter using those 6 hole plates.. I only have to drill 2 holes when shortening though. Also strangely knowing you ride Stage 4 trucks, when I watch you turn my brain is all "Fuck yeah there's that Stage 4 turning radius baby! Mmm🥰🤤!!" lol
yeah dude, they are sick! I'm on the Ace AF1's at the moment too and am liking the turn a lot on these as well 🙌🏼
I redrill boards but normally to shorten wheel base
What’s your ideal wheelbase?
14"
I like shaped boards and a lot have bigger wheel base
Sick man I ride birdhouse
The shovel tail is fine. My only beef is the boards balance for impossibles.
I think when adjusting your wheelbase you’re only supposed to do the front truck anyway (unless your board’s symmetrical)
So it’d make sense why your tail felt so weird
Haha yeah I definitely found that out the hard way 😅
here the redrilling on the space egg2 was in the tail but the opposite way, so shorter wheelbase with a longer tail
Oh sick, how did it feel with a longer tail?
i like long tails so felt "normal" @@LeonPaxton
what size of wheels are you riding?
These are 54mm Spitfire Radials dude 👌🏼
Nice still riding those slappy trucks
I've got a video dropping next week of the new trucks I'm skating at the moment 😎
@@LeonPaxton nice looking forward to it
I recently found my perfect measurements and there pretty basic tbh I like a 9in board with a 15in wheelbase and 33in long perfect shape for me and I like ace classics 9in wide and 56mm spitfire radial fulls
Oh dude, those specs are the best! That's why I loved the 9" Antihero board so much 👌🏼
That sound like the best set up 🙌🏼
@@LeonPaxton it’s because I’m 5”10 and mostly legs and I skate a lot of transition
Its called a kicktail :)
yea the 1/4 inch whatever witll make you skate better lol
Australian parks look so much nicer than California 😵💫
Really!? All the parks that I see over there look amazing lol
Hi Leon. We chatted in comments about sizes. I'm comming to the same conclusion as you, and I'm gonna try to recreate a 1991 board. Not trying to reinvent the wheel so to say, and just make what they invented moving away from vert and adding a nose to boards. Do you have any insight what Jason Lee skated in blind video days? His smooth relaxed style is definitely also down to the setup for sure. Quick research it's a kicktail 9.7 board, but what about wheels and trucks? Looks like wide venture highs :) ua-cam.com/video/shKJ3kcSkh0/v-deo.html
Oh sick man! It's kind of hard to tell but the trucks seem super stable when he's doing manuals so maybe they could be the Venture's 🤔
@@LeonPaxton Definitely. His lazy looking pop shovits too. I don't think it's the same brands we have today though, but i think your setup there is pretty comporable and they rode some hard 56mm wheels i believe. What size truck are you using? I think it's much to do with that too. A nice wide one that almost fits the board width is the way to go i think. And then just a big wide board with a long nose and tail like how it didn't work when you made the wheelbase longer, because the length of the tail and whole board adds stability much more so than caring too much about wheelbase
Edit: Some more info i found if you're interested :)
Blind Jason Lee pro model
1991
9.625" x 31.5"
7.0" nose
6.5" kicktail
14.0" wb
Ft 9.4"
Bt 8.875
9.0" indy trucks 169s
Tracker 6
Gullwing pro III shadow 9"
Kryptonics star trac 55mm wheels
Yeah he’s such a legend and OG for sure 🙌🏻
Oh damn! So that’s the exact set up he was riding back then?
@@LeonPaxton Yeah i found some measurements on his pro model and what they recommended. Seems like older brands and looks like maybe an older indy truck. Maybe stage 4 166s. Since they would probably fit perfectly on the back 8.875" but the hangar looked much thinner than stage 4. Apart from you chasing a longer wb, you're pretty much riding close as can get to this with current brands and parts :) But i wanna add i think wb is only about how it turns. The stability is all about total length and nose and tail length. That 7" nose and 6.5" tail is definitely on the long side and must feel great and stable.
Edit: I wanna ride your setup if i can source the parts. You're already riding those stage 4s and that board is pretty much the same stock :o
That's sick, hopefully you can get all the parts together and set up a similar board!
That's true, it definitely comes down to what's most comfortable and fun to the individual skater
Yes leon can you shout me out next video
I dislike 14.25 wb. Way too small!
Same dude!