How to bypass SKIM immobilize on a Jeep Grand Cherokee 1999 to 2004
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- Опубліковано 5 кві 2019
- You have to send the computer out to get it flashed or buy a new one without the skim WATCH VIDEO UNTILL END PLEASE
I don’t recommend doing this, this is a safety device to keep people from stealing your vehicle! I’m not responsible if your vehicle gets stolen or breaks, I did this because I off road and if it gets wet it’s locks you out of the Jeep
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Please watch the whole video to understand the beginning!
Hey ronnie thank you for the website question if i have a aftermarket alarm with this (brain pcu ecm pcm whatever the hell they are called now days) with a kill switch will it work or still start because the pcu is programmed without anti theft? Just wondering also i please i know i live in.......(California which is why i bought my jeep with a big 4.7 4wd to take advantage of our beautiful off beat areas) will it pass smog
are you sure the issue was the skim?. you dont think the issue was the pcm in the first place? .. multiple lights came on and your gauges dropped.. I think the skim light was coming on because the computer was on the fritz... Im speaking from personal experience I am experiencing the same exact issue currently and tried looking into that
@@jeffreystine7068 hey, did you ever solve the issue with your jeep? Im going through the same thing unfortunately.
@@hurleydavid11 not 100% solved.. but after a ton of research and diagnosing through forums and videos.. im almost sure its a grounding issue.. im currently working to cleaning any existing grounds up as best as i can.. some require a bit more work to get to than others.. but it most likely cost you the least amount of money to do.. i realized the newer wj's had more re enforced grounding while looking around at junk yards.. i also tested this by moving the eyelets around on .. a slight shift in any direction and it just wouldnt start up as quickly.. worse idle's.. and will shut off.. im planning to just re do all of them and upgrade the big 3 cables.. i just wanted to make sure this is my problem..
people keep saying its the pcu.. i understand the pcu regulates voltages.. but if theres a short in wiring at any one point in the car.. the PCU will not read the proper voltage that is supposed to be sent to it.. therefore not outputting the correct voltage for every thing to run properly..
Where did you get your computer from? I have a 99 grand cherokee that has the same issue, I had replaced the computer but I didn't know about the skim at the time and so its been parked for over a year now. But I want to fix it and get it back on the road
Thanks man! I just picked up this jeep a couple weeks ago and now it's running cherry. JUST AN FYI FOR ANYONE WITH OVERHEATING ISSUES AND GETTING THE p1499 code this also fixed that. I guess my old ECU wasn't giving the solenoid power and thus the cooling fan only ran at low RPM where it should be running very high RPM to keep engine cool especially at idle! I thought it was the solenoid but after doing this I haven't had any problems!! Keep in mind this is only for the Hydraulic cooling fan on 4.7 GC's. Awesome video bro!
Thats badass. My jeep was giving me such a headache. That's what my mechanic said it was too. Awesome info and video, thanks!
Thanks so much!!! I really appreciated watching the video you made on the SKIM UNIT. Great going guy!!!
probably the best tip on skims bro 🏁🏆🏁
THE "ACTUAL" SOLUTION:" On my 2000, the problem exists within the SKIM immobilizer. Remove the steering column cover by removing the single screw that holds the bottom portion on, then separate the two halves. Thereafter, unscrew the immobilizer upon removing the wiring connection, and carefully remove the round portion that goes around the ignition key tumbler. Carefully separate the two halves of the immobilizer and you'll see two relatively large solder points. They attach the wire that runs within and around the key tumbler. If you look closely, possibly using a magnifying glass, you'll see hairline cracks in the solder. If so, re-flow the old solder with some new solder and reinstall. Then, look at the lower half of your steering column cover. See that long boss that the screw you removed runs in? Take a Dremel and remove half of it long ways, leaving the half that isn't slamming into your immobilizer every time you tilt your steering down (Courtesy of Chrysler). Oh, and if you tilt the steering down, further hold it there, and the car starts when you turn your key, then this is likely your problem. I ran my car that way for years before figuring this out... cheers!
I knew it had to be something fixable without all the flashing, reprograming, etc...noise. Mine quit charging, solder joints cracked. Like you said couldn't see cracks, but I have one of those old magnifiers from Radio Shack the makes them visible. Also, desolder joints and reflow with 60/40 leaded solder. I read somewhere they use lead free solder, messing with tube amps that use lead free solder, heat and vibration causes broken solder joints all the time, reflowing with leaded fixes this.
Duuuuuuude. THANK YOU for that pointer. It worked. Our 2000 Grand Cherokee was intermittently causing starting issues with the SKIM thing, but I always managed to figure something out and get it started. But this last time it just refused to keep running no matter all my tricks. I saw your comment here, and figured I'd give it a try before pulling the PCM. I lowered the steering wheel and Ta-Daaaaa! So I know what to do next. Thanks again, good sir.
Is there any videos showing how I can do this?
Remove the SKIM halo. Remove the PCM on your firewall. Take it to your Auto Zone & they will delete the SKIM info. All you need is the VIN, mileage numbers. Put the PCM back. Don't replace the SKIM module halo & you're good to go. It's only $198 with the core or $398 without. Update: Make sure to disconnect the battery before removing anything. It's called "flashing" the PCM. My car is a 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee.
Ralasmom that's wrong auto zone doesn't work on the PCM
@@davidstephens3698 Who does flash pcm’s for you?
Did that work I'm buying a jeep that doesn't have a key programed to it so it doesn't stay runing.
AutoZone?? Are you kidding? They don't know how to hook up a battery tester.
What are u smoking on because it must be good shit to say that kind shit really auto zone
I wish I woulda known that you had to unplug the SKIM sensor BEFORE powering up the new “plug and play” PCM I had bought and installed into my WJ… It bricked the PCM as a SKIM equipped vehicle and made it have the exact same issue as before… They should put instructions and not just tell people “plug and play” when selling things like that… Sold the vehicle before I found out the proper way to do this cuz as he states in this video there’s a lot of bs and not a lot of this definitely works info out there… so thank you for making this video and showing people the correct procedure cuz I sure as hell woulda liked to have this knowledge prior to selling a beautiful vehicle for such a simple fix once you know how… the dealership couldn’t even tell me the correct way to remedy the issue and two shops couldn’t either…
Totally been looking for your channel! Love it! Have an 2004 JGC!
Didnt work for me
great video Ronnie!
Fascinating .
Informative.
Interesting.
Thank you for teaching me, Sir
Dude great video man, on top of showing us how to delete this stuoid trouble prone skim, you tell the sizes of each nut and bolt. Kudos buddy
You're a bloody legend! Thanks heaps👍
Pretty much the best f****** vid i've watched on topic. Thanks man you are a hero. 👍
Very good demonstration
I watch a lot of different people making a lot of different videos you did a really good job no idea which was a little bit more clear is did you use your original PCM and have it flashed and have them put re-put the Vin number in and leave a skim dormant
Great video! Where did you get your ecu reprogrammed?
Man... Thanks for the efforts and all the explanations you mentioned in this video. Just a slight correction, you still can use your old PCM without ordering a new PCM, just get the SKIM disabled as you've mentioned and you will be good to go. HP tuner device can get the job done without removing anything from the car at all...
Thanks again.
How do you remove it with the tuner?
That is not true 😢 sorry you need to √ into that better
worked for me all i did was remove the water resivoir and boom 20 minute job thanx
I actually tried this and bought a computer with the skim deleted and did what he said and it worked
HEY FOUND THE FIX! I had this same issue. There is a rubber boot in the passenger side door and the power wire, which is a thick brown wire with a white stripe, is probably broken. These models made the ground wire good, but the power wire in the doors is too long, gets caught and snipped. I found a youtube video showing issue, checked mine and fixed in five minute.
Good job man thank you so much
This was my problem! Bro I would kiss you right on the mouth for saving my ass!
Can you link the video here please?
How do I find your video
Im 99% sure I got the same problem because I have the drivers door wiring problems too and it's cutting out with the key light coming on.if it fixes my problem I have to find this guy and pay him.
Does this also apply to 1997 Dodge Ram 1500 as well?? I have a car that’s a crank/no start and doesn’t have a check engine lite either???? It has power at the ecm on the black plug @ pin #2 & 22.....
Thanks man. Big help bro. Thank you!!!!!!!!!
Good information Bro
I got a P1686 code on My 2002 Dodge Durango and i had already replaced my ECM but i didn't drive much then suddenly when i did it started acting up as your Jeep did and i don't and haven't used the Original FOB Key since i got the car from my Aunt. Do you think it could be the SCIM for me also ?
Very nice video. Do you have any idea if this can be done with a 2009 pt cruiser? It looks like everything is the same. That would be nice if I could get it done to my pt. Right now I’m just troubleshooting it but I would definitely like to bypass the skim module. Thanks
A couple of things. You need to also have the replacement PCM coded to your car. The people who deleted the SKIM on the replacement PCM would normally have asked you for your VIN so they can do that. Also, you MUST discard the skim reader so that it is never reconnected because if the reader is present it will reactivate the skim in the PCM and you'll be back to square one.
Where does one find a skim deleted pcm?
@@stuartbrand2592 I think you can see them advertised on ebay. You can send yours and have them do it or send your VIN so they can put it into the PCM. Get back to me if you can't find it.
@@chasermalloy7406 aeaecd for All Computer Resources.
I've got a crack taxi driver who took it to another shop, they swapped the pc, never wrote data to new PCM, rather they just threw a new one from a scrap yard on it. Not very bright and if you don't know what you're doing it'll cost you. So far they're at $175 on diag time and that doesn't include to remove skim, remove and install PCM before.
I'd say $400 ~ $500 minimum and then some. Stupid tax has to be included as well. People don't think about the end game generally.
@@dtnel Yep All Comp resources are one of the few who get it right. Most wreckers in my experience tell people they only need the PCM, key and skim reader to get their jeep going. Many of them know damn well it isn't but they sell the set anyway. So, as you say by the time the owner has then had it properly done ( Even if it's just having the car's vin entered ) on top of paying for the used PCM, they're at the sort of figure you're talking about. A/C Resources will either receive your original PCM, do the skim delete and return it OR they will send you a replacement Skim deleted PCM. In the latter case they will ask you for the VIN number of your vehicle which they will insert in your replacement PCM before sending it to you. It's normally around the $200 mark to do yours but I think the service is currently on special for $157 or something. You won't do better and I really think deactivating the Skim is the only sensible move. Unless you want to spend silly money making spare keys you could easily end up in the same situation again. Apart from that the skim reader units have also been known to fail which leaves you just as stranded. You can easily manage to immobilize the car a million ways if you're worried about that. BTW are you going to pay the shop who took on the job on a vehicle they don't have the required expertise on ? They could whistle for it if it was me.
I have a 98 with the 5.9.Can I use a Dakota r/t pcm?
Do you have to change the PCM? If so where do you get it?
Can you still use the chopped key if you do this. ?? I bought a 2000 grand Cherokee but had a 02 motor put in. Prior to my purchase. And has only 1 key ( chipped). Jeep starts for 30secs and dies . Also sounds like relays under hood are clicking with lights flashing when battery is hooked up , Guy I bought it from said needs a new pcm - but with the clicking relays and lights flashing while battery is hooked up. Confuses me . The Jeep does start but pretty much immediately dies won’t stay running. Is it pcm or ??? I’m lil baffled and don’t wanna throw $ out chasing a fix.
Thanks man, thank you
My question, I ordered a new or used pcm, ignition, skim and key that all came together and we put it in, car cranked but didn’t start, but the key light did not come on. I never got it started before the key was lost by ????? ( wasn’t me) can I just take the computer out, get the computer flashed and take out skim, and then install the old ignition that has a key? Or is computer not capable of forgetting the former skim?
Hey brother. I have a fob and out a new battery and now having all sorts of issues with electrical components. Apparently that new battery opened a can of worms. I’m having issues now first I noticed all clusters stopped working. Sometimes door sometimes locks, etc… do I replace driver side door control unit? Pretty lost here for first steps getting a lot of different info lol
Not sure if i understand .... why not just ground out all of the electrical charges overnight like you said and THEN REMOVE the SKIM module before you "reboot/ re-connect the battery? Not clear on why .... what does "flashing " do differently than "draining the electrical and rebooting ?
Thanks Ronnie
From where did you got your pcm ?would it work on a 99 wj 4.0?
Your awesome. We are thinking this could be our issue our jeep runs but sometimes it doesn’t start and then it sometimes it shuts down while I’m driving. We think we did everything else. Do you have any ideas why my jeep starts drives nice and eventually just stalls while driving there are days it won’t start for a while and then she does but shuts off before we move. Please give any ideas or advice. We feel it’s something pretty simple that we can do before we have to send it to a garage.
Excelent xplanation, thanks..
I got upset...when u pulled it apart and put back together..
Cuz I didn't understand
...but once you explained it.....later...I got it
Hi, My Ignition Key circuit is damage and rusty, can you share how to obtain a circuit for a 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4.7L V8 without going to the Dealer? How does that Circuit works, to get the original for my car? I know I have to get it cut it and programming, but my concern is to get a new circuit? I truly appreciate it!
Other than the 3 commercials......great video
3 commercials saved you potentially $1000s from the dealer and probably made this guy a dollar fiddy for the knowledge he shared. I'll take the commercials if it buys him a beer for helping me out
Hi i got an xj jeep 95 model took motor harnes and trans i need to do an omni bypass or does it have a skim unit basically am looking for which wires will start the car on the 95 pcm
I have a 2000 grand Cherokee with this problem. It was pulled behind a motor home and is in mint condition. The odometer say 175,000 miles but there is no way it has 175,000 driven miles. The driver seat barely has anywhere on it and almost looks just like the rear seats that look brand new. It’s been sitting up since 2018 and I’m just now seeing this video. I would love to get it running and start driving it again. So let me get this straight…. What I need to do is pull my PCM out and order a new one. But when I order it, I’ll have to tell them that I want the skim to be disabled, or laying dormant, right? Also if you’re ordering a new one, what is the purpose of getting it flashed? What does he mean by that? Any help would be appreciated because this excites me
brother i need help with my 02 jeep wj overland edition. i had an 04 that i totaled and i transferd over the 04 computer plus pcm plus my 04 ignition and engine. why wont this truck turn on?
Hi I’ve got a commander and it run for a few seconds and stalled after trying to start a few times it seems to have locked me out it just clicks now no starter . I suspect the skim as done the battery relays starter motor ignition switch.
Do you think I probably have to do skim delete?
Hey, could you help me finding a suitable PCM for my 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee? Located in Norway
is it possible that the SKIM could cause transmission code to pop up on diagnostic machine
Great video! Is there away to program a 04 grand cherokee key fob from the junkyard?
I wonder would this same method work on my 2007 Jeep Wrangler JK 2.8 CRD??
I performed this procedure on my 2001 Jeep Grand cherokee. It now starts with the original key then dies after a few seconds. Any Ideas?
Hi I changed the reader and computer box on jeep Cherokee ,if I program a new key will car start or must it be realign?
Great video, make perfect sense thanks
I have 1 question. Wht if i dont need a new PCM. Can i do that with my original one? And will it still work?
What other one on the bracket?? Missed a whole part there...dod you get a new one, did uou have to reprogram etcetc...
Also what you can do is when you're taking battery terminals off put the two battery terminals together do not have them connected to the battery and connect the positive and red together and make sure they're not touching the battery obviously don't blow anything up and hopefully they'll reset your PC you been there done that
It's wild to watch how long this takes, when I can just do this is 5 minutes via OBD... lol
If im just getting the ecm repaired do i still have to unplug the skim?
You are very helpful!
I have jeep like yours I have running lights on front but the back would not work so I pulled out the light insert and installed new light inserts on jeep on rear and they still don't work so could you give me some pointers to how to fix the problem anybody out there.
Will this work on a 99 tj wrangler 4.0l? I recently just got my car back it was stolen and they broke my skim unit :( got all my new parts in but car won’t start without it
Thank you very much
So did you replace it or did you just unplug it and take it out
Any ideas on if it still doesnt work?
Great video.
What did you do to the pcm I couldn’t get that part !
Ronnie where did you order the PCM from
Does this work the same way for a 2003 2.7crd?
What company did you go with
Wonder if it would work on a 2006 dodge Charger rt
I'm having similar issues with my 2000 jeep grand cherokee limited so I just ordered a new computer and am going to do the same as you did in this video. You mentioned any issue with wiring or sensors can cause problems with the skim unit. My question is, if I replace the computer without the skim activated and whatever issue, wiring, sensor...whatever remains, will that cause the new computer to fail or is it all in the skim? Will deleting the skim keep my cherokee running even if there may be wiring or sensor issues? Funny thing is everything works as long as the engine isn't running. Once it's running that's when everything goes out and the key light comes on. No power windows, locks, gauges, etc... but when the engine is off but the key is turned on everything works fine. Thank you and great video.
My 2000 Jeep grand Cherokee pcm is 637AF had issue , can I change to other number with out reprograming ? , can I useful from this way ?
Without taking to get the pcm part erased?
Would that work on my 07 jeep grand cherokee 3.0 diesel crd
So you have to get a new thingy that you took out or nah
I'm lost....so you are fitting another Ecu that has no immobiliser?
Best regards
thanks for the video my friend , I have a 2002 jeep gran Cherokee , there is no communication with my scanner, , no power to the coils nor the injectors, cranks but won't start, , can the skim cause this problem or its just the computer that is bad? thank you.
I am having the same problem , have you figured out how to fix it ? I think i have tried everything.
Where did you get the pcm?
Where did you buy the part
O amigo descodificou o imobilizador como se faz isso.
Thanx u guys my jeep is now working I did it myself n it saved me a lot of money
How did you do it yourself?
Are those parts the exact same year as your car ??
Interesting. Where do you get the new computer? Dodge dealer? Thumb up for the info.
So do I have to get a new computer I can't use the original one to do it and if that. Is true can't get one from a junk yard
my computer went bad on a 2004 jeep grand cherokee my dad picked up one at a junk yard and they installed it. The car will start but shuts off after a second. he said the junk yard never programmed the pcm to my vin number How do you do that? If I take out the skim with that computer already installed will it still start AND RUN OR WILL IT STILL DIE ????
I have an 02 grand Cherokee I was having the same issues would start and stall with the security key on. Replaced the pcm and now it runs perfectly fine but my whole dash cluster is out. Any suggestions on what to check out or am I just hunting for a lose or broken ground somewhere. Thanks for any and all info
i know this is a long shot, but did you ever figure out what was wrong? my 01 GC is doing the same thing!
@@meganlynn4365 honestly couldn’t figure it out. I believe when I ordered the new computer with the skim module deactivated and installed it I should have actually removed the skim module from the ignition before I starting the Jeep back up. Idk if that’s why it started and ran fine just no dash cause security system was deactivated so it let it run but at same time without removing the module it tripped the alarm so dash wouldn’t work and and security light was still on. I drove the Jeep like that for probably about 2 years never any issues but sunroof also had been draining into foot wells so idk what all was corroded. If I were to do it again I’d buy pcm with skim deactivated remove skim from steering column install the new computer then start it up. I’m by no means a professional and this is just from memory from a few years ago of what I had read. Sorry for your troubles definitely a pain in the butt. If you figure it out let me know I’d be interested.
@@meganlynn4365 lol I’m having the same issues. I actually took out the skim completely tho. Did you figure it out??
I am unclear on what he did in the second part after he removed the battery and the rest of the stuff. I saw him take the SKIM out under the steering wheel (in the first part), but it looks like he just unplugged and plugged the same stuff back in in the second part. Was this to reset something, or did he actually remove something (permanently) in that area?
Is the TCM present in all WJ like Laredo? Or only higher end models?
TCM comes with the 4.7 V8. 4.0 I-6 doesn’t have a TCM.
I need help. please. so my skim is out for sure. jeep runs for 2 seconds. so I can just open hood disconnect pcm for now and it should be good???
Hey Matt. Just wanted to see how you made out with all computer resources. Their reviews are horrible and I've had some problems with them in the past.
I saw the video several times and at no time did you say where to get the other pcm whether it be from junkyard or new or if I have to get the other pcm reprogrammed then put on place of other pcm. If you could tell me that I would appreciate it.
I would like to apologize as I saw at the very end you explained it but now you understand the confusion cause you explained about how to take it out and place the other one but your video delivery was what throws people off. Had you mentioned that in the beginning it would of been helpful but thank you once again for the video.
This is why 97-98 are my choice of years for the xj .
Who do I get to reprogram the pcm with new vin
But is that work in Jeep Grand Cherokee 2.7CRD?
Great video, thank you. After all is complete, will the car pass inspection with that key light on?
He has a video on removing the gauge cluster light
How I can start the car with out immoplizer
Why do you need to program the new pcm to your vin??
Because the ecu vin number must match the other modules vin numbers or the car will not start. Like in a 2008 charger, the engine ecu must have the same vin number as the wireless ignition node and the cabin control node/body control module. If any of the nodes has a mismatched vin number, it will enable the security lock out and the car will not start.
Any issues of with the abs module? That’s my issue at the moment because I bought a ecu with the key and immobilizer but abs light stays on and was told that the abs module had to be programmed
U didn't tell us what u did with the pcm
Just wondering if can just have then diable from my pcm or only.if you buy. New one?
I end up getting pcm from a place that fixes them and resets them back to factory and they test them I gave them my vendor programmer but I never gave them the mileage. Is that a bad thing? They didn't ask from it it won't start I put it in my skim has been out for 2 weeks and nothing?
Wow, it’s a lot easier to get to the XJ PCM!
Hello friend i have a Jeep need to delete a skim ani solution Please
where can i guy new pcm?
I’m pretty positive this is the issue I just ran into. I sent a brand new mopar Chrysler PCM for my 05 LJ to Mark at Wranglerfix to be programmed. It looks like they programmed the computer disabling the skim in the computer; however, I have a sentry key immobilizer module attached to the steering column and two keys with the fob that all work together with a PCM that has the skim enabled.
So when I installed the programmed PCM earlier today, used the factory chip key, sentry key immobilizer still connected, the Jeep is cranking but there’s no fire. I had no clue about this. Wish I would have been asked this prior so smething like this wouldn’t have happened. I’ve removed the sentry key immobilizer, but was told that there’s no going back once you try with the immobilizer connected- because that connector and it’s wires go directly to the pcm plug and sends it information. The sentry key immobilizer sent information to the pcm that has no skim enabled and activated it is what I been told. It looks like the pcm needs to be reflashed and programmed to my vin and mileage again deleting the skim within, except this time with the key immobilizer out of my Jeep and disconnected it shouldn’t set the PCM off to prevent it from starting. I’m really at a lost for words and have had a migraine for the past 8 hours, reading up a storm about this. This is what looks like happened.
The only question I have though is what key am I to use once I get the pcm reprogrammed without the skim and no sentry key immobilizer installed on my Jeep- which key do I use to turn the engine? And will using one of the programmed keys corrupt the pcm again causing another problem like this? I have two chip keys, and I have a non chip key.
Before sending the pcm back to Florida (I live in Toronto), I’m going to try 1 thing that I can’t stop thinking about....and that’s the crankshaft position sensor. I’m going to replace it. It’s a crank and no start issue I’m having- the cps error code wasnt showing BUT back in December it came on and my Jeep acted so crazy. It needed to crank longer normal to turn over and then immediately the engine cel was flashing....knew smething was wrong...drove less then a kilometre and the engine started hiccuping and almost stalled. I drove it back home and check the codes and got the cps error code, so I removed it and there was about a quarter inch of oil and dirt at the end of the sensor preventing it from reading the teeth and throwing the timing off. I cleaned it all off and it fired right up, problem never returned. But it’s making me question now since this happened if that sensor needs to be replaced entirely, not just cleaned. For the hell of it and whatever it’s worth I’m just going to replace it entirely tomorrow and see if the engine fires before sending the pcm back. It’s been a nightmare with my Jeep for over a year now.
You have to unplug the skim underneath your steering with before putting pcm back in or it locks it
Yup. I know this now. Learnt the hard way. But what I’m wondering is if the pcm can have the skim removed from it now after having it activated through the immobilizer? And if yes, what key would I use to turn the engine over after I get the pcm back and without the Immobilizer connected? I have two keys with a programmed chip and a key without a chip.
Good job man thank you so much
Wait wait wait…. So I just unplug the skim and I’m good?