HQST MPPT 20A 40A 60A Lithium Solar Charge Controller Review
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2024
- The Professor reviews the HQST 20A 40A and 60A MPPT solar charge controllers for use with Lead or LiFePO4 12v 24v 36v 48v battery banks. Includes built in Parallel Ability, Bluetooth, and Low Temperature Charging Protection!
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The Professor reviews the HQST 20A 40A and 60A MPPT solar charge controllers for use with Lead or LiFePO4 12v 24v 36v 48v battery banks. Includes built in Parallel Ability, Bluetooth, and Low Temperature Charging Protection!
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[PROOF 20A/40A controllers also have LOW TEMP CUTOFF ua-cam.com/users/shortssRsq9YqlLxk ]
where is da ecoflow delta 2 max review !!!
Awesome!!
What is the name of the bluetooth app please
Looks like the code HOBOTECH10 is no longer being accepted
Thank You Professor! I got the 40amp while on sale and set it up this weekend, hoping to upgrade later on panels and run another 40 amp parallel. Cheers
I have been using this solar charger controller for 8 months, very happy with it !
update us in a couple years.
@@jtnoodleI’ve had mine for 9 months or so now and it’s been perfect. I bought a second 60A controller to charger for a total of 120A! Haven’t installed the second yet but will soon.
This is my choice in price range. It offers so much.
I have had mine for a bit over a year, its hooked up to 3 110ah 12v deep cycles with 3 renogy solar panels running into it. Works awesome and ive been really impressed with it.
I have had the 40amp model for about the last year. No real issues with it yet. I was unaware of the low temp cutoff feature, thanks for showing us! Go Hobo!
I picked up the 40A charger a few months ago. Having built in Bluetooth and the low self power consumption were the selling points.
Picked one up to replace the pwm charger that came with my old flexible Renogy panels. Just need a good inverter charger and the cabling/tools to make it all work now. Thanks for the discount.
Ordered the 60. Thank you, HOBO. Will buy 20,40 later as I expand versatility. Just getting going.
Great review of a good product with extensive feature set at a VERY competitive price. Prof. Hobo delivers!
Funny Fact;
I was about to get the Victron..I was so set on it that I had this video in Que way back when it was new, and ignored this video because due to issues with cheaper stuff, I was done playin'..
Well, as life goes I got side tracked on other projects and I'm just now getting around to playin' with my solar stuff again, and I decided to hear this video out, only to hear this basically is a Victron - so I just went from buying one Victron at a time to three of these 60 amps (I'm going 48v on this next system, and my bugout location gets in the single digits), and I'll be way better off for it.
Thanks Professor..😎👍
I've been using the 20A version for 3 years now and love it. I was just thinking about get more power but noticed I'd already maxed her out. I didn't realize you could add another controller. This is great news. Thanks for the review. I'll keep buying these over Renergy any day .
I want to get this;
10% off of $89.oo on this 20 amp model would be a fantastic bargain 😀
You can put as many charge controllers on your battery as you want, up to the current limit that the battery supports. Though its nice (they all switch charging stages simultaneously when they have comms)... charge controllers don't actually need to know that there are other charge controllers on the system.
So if you have a battery bank, bus bars, and battery wiring that can handle charging at 100A, nothing is stopping you from putting 5 x 20A charge controllers on the system. (Each charge controller being only 20A can use 10 AWG wiring. The battery cabling itself would have to be 2 AWG to handle 100A reasonably well).
For the same reason, you can hang multiple inverters off of a battery bank such that the total amperage they pull does not exceed the bank/wiring capabilities.
-Matt
Thanks HOBOTECH. You saved me some money on some HQST 60 Amp charge controllers 😎
I have the 20amp when I built my solar cart. I was pleasantly surprised with the bluetooth app. I also have their solar panels. I think that their pricing is great and I was pleased with the build quality.
HQST has some great solar panels. The 9BBs and now 10BBs are great panels.
I always enjoy your vids, thanks hobo 😊
Thanks professor for the heads up and great price
Bang bang!
These controllers are great. We now have 4 of them in service and after installing the first one, replaced 3 other functional units of other brands with these, since they work so well. Have a variety of panels from them that work great, too. Good, reliable, quality equipment.
Do you have various watts/amps strings of panels running to them? I have 2 400w strings paralleled into our current 60A unit. Want to add 400 to 600 more watts with a 40 amp controller. From your experience will having 600watts on one controller and 800 on the other decrease the input from the 800 unit? Hope that wording makes sense?
Thanks for the well-done video. I've been using a MPPT controller that handles the same voltage/amps but no parallel. If I factor in the Bluetooth app instead of a remote display, it makes sense to slowly switch over to this.
Thanks for this review.
Thank for doing the short video to answer my question
I have the 20 and 40 pluses one of the srn looking one the had before love them all
Yes!!!! Thank you for the fx!!!!
It looks more friendly user and more versatile than my Renogy MPPT. Nice price. Might order one!
Heck yeah, I have the small one the 20amp and I love it.
Would be very helpful if you explain Advanced Settings mode, and what options are available. Thanks for the video.
Low temp cut-off in a budget controller.. without paying the big blue price.. this is gonna be my next controller
Same
Send their customer support an email saying your having trouble with a unit you just bought. No answer. Send them another one to the same customer support saying you want to buy there 60a controller. Wow, you just got an answer but not about that first email.
Loving my HQST. Better look at the vtoman Prospeed 3000. Wow !!! Loving that display panel.
I wish I had seen your video first! I just bought the Li Time version of this ( I was buying their batteries so I figured I'd stay in their ecosystem ). It looks to be the exact same device with a different paint job, but they must have modified the firmware. Mine does not have the setting to tun on/off the low temp cutoff and, even though it came with the temperature probe, their version of the manual specifically says to NOT use the temperature probe with LiFePO4 batteries. Odd that it came with the probe but has no way to turn the function on/off. Anyway, thanks for the great video!
Wonder what’s up with that.But you have 5 year warranty vs just one.
I got the LiTime 60 amp controller on sale on Amazon for $204.00 Nov 2023. Since then the price is up to $270.00. When i upgrade i will be getting the HQST 60A as the price is waay better at $220.00
I have the same exact HQST but 40a version. It is rock solid and runs very cool. I find the parallel feature not needed. I have the HQST and a SCNE 20a mppt both charging the same battery bank and it's not a problem.
Right. You don't need the paralleling feature. The worst that happens is that the various charge controllers don't switch charge stage states in tandem. That can be a bit of an eyesore but it doesn't really hurt anything.
what a great price. good review and video
Thanks!
Hey Tom. Sorry I dropped Patreon support, after two years I was just not in the market for a SoGen and was really here for the campervan stuff and I am about to retire and your channel is doing well, so I just had to tighten the belt a little. Still think you are great though and wish you the best of luck and I like to see things like this mixed in. Maybe things will line up again in the future and I can toss more love your way.
I bought a bench power supply last week it's ideal for testing MPPT controllers
Im glad I saw this video. I just ordered a piece of junk eco-worthy 60 amp controller last week on amazon and after setting it up I found it doesnt work. Im retuning it and just ordered this one! and it was only $20 more when ordering from their website!
Thanks for doing what you do! I am educating myself on Solar and you are a good part of my education! I currently have 2 190 watt panels in parallel , 2 wet 12VDC 100 AH batteries in parallel and a 30 amp PWM charge controller. Thinking of upgrading to MPPT controller, smart shunt and eventually Lithium batteries. Would the 60 AMP controller work on my 30 amp system so I can upgrade as finances are ready? (Travel trailer) -- PS: I think you should offer a "HOBO Certificate" for watchers! Thanks again! bw in ND.
I wish that this video had came out before.I ordered a new charge controller!
Don't worry, you saved yourself some money.
I have the 60A. A couple of other things of note. DC load terminal control (dusk/dawn/timer) and battery charge parameters can be controlled completely from the app. Regarding the auto 12/24/48v claim on the front, what I found was that it wasn't actually auto. What happened on switching from 12 to 24v LI was that it registered 26.5v coming in and flashed the error light at me until I changed the system voltage to 24v. Perhaps that's a safety mechanism, and certainly not a big deal by any means, but I thought it would just automatically switch. Other than that and perhaps wishing the Bluetooth range was a bit further without having to buy an external antennae, I love the 60A. It's so well built, it just works, and at a price that should embarrass the likes of Victron (yeah, 31 bucks for the temp sensor *wire* Victron, really???). Great job HQST :)
It probably works the same as the Victron where it is auto upon initial commissioning, but after that if you change the battery voltage you have to adjust the charger controller manually. Definitely a safety feature because you don't want a charge controller mistaking a dead battery with a lower-voltage battery.
Really like this
My Victron equipment has always been rock solid, though at a price. It would be great if another vendor provided equipment of similar quality at a reduced price. I’ll keep my eye on HQST.
If you are looking at these things look into helios (the OEM that makes it) M4860N
@@retrozmachine1189 - Low temp cut out on Helios? Went to their website and no mention of low temp protection.
Okay, there are many companies selling these re branded Helios units, so what's your point ?@@retrozmachine1189
Sir you won yourself another subscriber 🙂🙂
Great Vid! Thanx
Thanks for your helpfull videos. I have poor solar in the winter months in the north. I also see you have been bench testing charge controllers with lab constant power supply. Is it possible for me to switch between solar source, or wind power ?
Thank you for the video. Have you done a review on any of the HQST batteries or solar panels?
Thanks for all the great videos. Very helpful. Can I charge my 300Ah battery bank with two seperate MPPT charge controllers, one mounted on top of the trailer and the other is a portable panel used when the trailer is in the shade and I need to remote the panel. What do you think?
Love my HQST panels. I've got an RV full of the Blue stuff. But looking for a DC-DC charger and I don't want to spend Blue stuff money this time around. I have my eye on that other HQST related unmentionable brand. But HQST needs to jump on the DC-DC charger band wagon
Thanks for this great informative video. I had not heard of that product before. I have looked at their documentation and could not find the minimum PV input voltage to get it running. Do you have this information? 🤔😊
The smaller one needs to be the master because its more limited. You don't want the 60 amp model telling the 20 amp model to do something it can't do.
I have two 60a units in parallel mode and I see no difference in operation either with or without this mode. What exactly is supposed to occur in parallel. And I have, of course, two solar panel banks, 800w and 760w. Starting either controller first, making that the master, makes no difference either...
Cable seems to be a joke? I have 2 60a controllers also going to 1 bat bank.Cable paring didn’t make so I only need to see 1 controller on app.Weird
LiTime says cable was only used in development.We don’t need one.😊
Good observation.
Just bought one... Simply based on this video.
I figure the reason the smaller one becomes the master is because. It cannot handle as much input nor can it run a 48 V system. Therefore they will default to the least common. Denominator which would be the smaller of the two units
My thoughts also. It would also work for the 60A controller to be the primary if when it was installed in parallel with the 20/40A units and be limited to 12/24V settings automatically.
I am saving for the 20 AMP now...
Hey, Hobo! when will you have a review on the Bluetti AC180?
That minute delay might be put in the firmware on purpose to prevent any false readings or something that would cause the sensor to be exposed to a really cold gust of air for a brief period of time
Very good video buddy I really enjoyed this I got to ask you a question will this do flood batteries also please let me know if so I'm going to buy me a couple of these things thank you very much
Yes
Even Will Prowse has recommended HQST in the past. I bought one solar panel from them and a couple Renogy ones more recently.
Thank you Hobo, know I know
Can you change the tempature cutoff from 0 Celsius to 5 Celsius for example?
I wanted to buy the 60amp one but $$ ($290CDN) and current and 'immediate future' solar plans for an emergencies and RVing will not be requiring the 60amp model so I ordered the 40amp. #1 consideration was built in low temp cut off so I can use the refurbished non-heated mini lifepo4's from Power Queen and Li Time. The Li-Time was partially Hobotech's recommendation with an assist from John Daniel.
There has been talk in the solar power forums as to the relationship between HQST and Renogy. I would say joined at the hip. My order acknowledgement for the HQST controller was from Renogy. Photos in the forums of products received from all HQST products orders have some pieces arrive in Renogy packaging. I would guess part of the strategy is to have a lower cost outlet as one pays royally for Renogy. The other, much to the chagrin of their Canadian customers, is how bad Renogy's customer service reputation is. They have a BBB rating of 1.15. Products are respected, relied on and 'top shelf,' customer service is abysmal.
Good information. Thank you
Hmm, that explains why the screen pictures in the manule are identical to thos in the wanderer manual.
Hi i got a question i got a 12v deep cycle marine battery and i would like to know if i can charge it at around 12amps or it would be better 6amps? Thanks
Do you think the 20 amp version would be good for the 3rd input of the leoch?
Good Lord, you are a fountain of information! Thank you for your expl
On the parallel cable do you know if all 6 pins being used?
Thanks in advance.
Aloha, is it possible to set user defined specifications for non standard batteries? (like repurposed Nissan Leaf EV batteries) Thanks for the great job I really enjoy your videos.
Yep
Hi, I’m looking at this as an alternative to the Victron SCC and I’ve studied the user manual but I can’t find anything about the absorb time. Is it user configurable and if not, how is the absorb time determined?
I would like you to test out sunthysis charge controller there is only one other UA-camr that has tested and it is half the price but is it as good don't know
V V for victory for var var varsity. 🙂 Nice review
I have been extra concerned about the low temperature shutoff. My Lithium battery bank is my most expensive part of my system. At Sunrise in the Northwest thr temperature is often below or hovering around freezing. I would hate to have to replace $1500 of batteries of because of freezing temperatures. Can a minute of charging cause damage? I would feel more comfortable if i could set a temperature shutoff a little above freezing. But I admit I might be just paranoid. Any opinions?
Please reply. Can the 60amp controller charge my 12v li batt at 60 amps and still give extra 10+ amps of power off the direct load terminal. Maybe a stupid question but...
If you have various watts/amps strings of panels running to the controller will ot make the efficiency of the bigger system less or just add the watts from each system together ? I have 2 400w strings paralleled into our current 60A unit. Want to add 400 to 600 more watts with a 40 amp controller. From your experience will having 600watts on one controller and 800 on the other decrease the input from the 800 unit? Hope that wording makes sense?
Seems logical that the smaller unit takes control. They switch as a safety feature when you change critical parameters.
Something else that's not in the manual. How do you set the WH rating on the 2440N
Just went through the settings on my 40amp and does not have on/off for low temp. Any advice?
How do we change the temperature from Celsius to Fahrenheit?
Epever AN series charge controllers updated there firmware & now have the low temp Charge protection too but you have to enable it via a pc with there usb cable
And they generally cost more feature for feature.
This may be a dumb question, but can I over panel these controllers like I can on my Bluetti EB240?
hqst, redodo, li time all have these out. some the bluetooth works some don't lol. my renogy died looking at one of these
Don't think Redodo or Li Time have low temp cutoff. I saw the insides of the Redodo and the HQST and they were different circuit boards.
When I looked up the HQST headquarters address using Google Earth, it seems this is a brand of Renogy? And since the new Li Time controllers look the same as the HQST models, is Li Time also a Renogy brand? Not that I have an issue with it. Just trying to connect the manufacturing dots.
Go the advanced settings, change your float voltage to 13.6 and change your Boost voltage to not more than 13.9v. Once you set your boost voltage above 13.9, the error happens. If you set your boost voltage below 13.9, you wont have the issue again. However that means you wont be able to fully harness the power of your solar panels. Lifepo4 battery ideally use 14.6v as boost voltage
The boost voltage generally has to be 14.2V when using generic 4s LiFePO4 batteries, otherwise their internal balancers won't ever trigger. 14.6V is 3.65V/cell which is typically the BMS disconnect voltage... you generally don't want to charge the batteries to that point. The BMS low and high voltage disconnects are always supposed to be the last line of defense, not the first line of defense and the high voltage disconnect can cause the charge controllers to over-volt the battery bus when it trips.
The float should always be between 13.4V and 13.5V ( 3.35V/cell to 3.375V/cell). Any lower and you lose capacity when dropping down to the float, any higher and the float will overcharge the battery if held long enough.
-Matt
I copied that from someone else that had issue from the comments.
Would be all over this if it supported dc to dc charging as well
So would I be safe running a 1000 watts solar with some shade on 400 watts?
You should do a complete video on controllers and LifePo4 batteries. I purchased a ampere time 200ah LiPo4 after your review of the battery. I have a renogy rover 40amp charge controller, when I throw it on Li settings, it flashes over charge. I’m not sure why. I contacted ampere time, they told me to put in user settings, and the battery charges fine now, only problem is once the sun goes down and there’s a small load on it, the volts drop to 13.1 volts. According to the book that’s 50-60% charged(something like that). Is that normal? Maybe a bad battery? Please help! Thank you.
That's normal.
Can these units be connected by Bluetooth to an external android screen/tablet without Internet?
I can use the 48V version with any solar panels to power my Ebike!
I missed it, but can you limit the Amps being delivered?
No and it overheats when it gets even close to the 60a mark
I bought the 40 amp model for use with my 200ah LiFePo4 Powerurus battery, using a gopower 200 watt solar panel. Unfortunately, my battery was pretty low when I installed the Mppt Solar charge controller, and it seems to be taking quite a while to fully charge the battery using only solar. What do you recommend I customize the MPPT settings to? Or, should I just leave the default settings? TIA
Get 2 more panels.A 600 watt panel is recommended for my 230ah bat.
is there any security on the bluetooth like being able to disable it? I always get annoyed how someone can walk by and takes control of devices. I wouldn't want to keep an eye on my settings make sure they are at safe levels.
You need to be really close to use the Bluetooth function. If it works.
sorry im new to this, i bought a couple lion energy 12v 100 watt pannels and a dr. prepare 1280 battery to run a fridge in the garage.
will this 20amp or 40amp charge controller plus an ac inverter work for my needs?
Yep
I just bought Yuma 200w flexible panel. Would I be able to use the 60A. ?
Yep
Hey professor, and community. I'm waiting for my 60 and 40 amp controllers to arrive. Do you think these can be monitored by a Victron Energy GX Touch 50 screen through bluetooth, usb or some super secret MacGyver techniques?
No, but you can ask HQST
I have several Renogy MPPT controllers (20,30, 40, 60 and the 100amp versions) and they have been very reliable for me. I just tested out my old Vandura van's new power system, Rover Elite 40 amp MPPT, 400 watts in panels, Renogy 2000 watt inverter, 300AH Chins battery, BT-2 blue tooth. Went camping overnight at Bodega Bay but were not attacked by Hitchcock birds.... Works great. I watched the Renogy battery SOC meter hit 100% on the way home and saw the solar charge volts drop to zero. However, the Elite does not have the load terminals like the Rover. I'm disappointed. I would like to turn on 12 volt lighting with my cell phone app like the 30 amp Rover has. Is the light bulb over the terminals on the HQST signifying a blue tooth relay? The Rover can operate a 20 amp load. I might pick up the 40 amp HQST but would like to know if those are load terminals. I like the included blue tooth function, too, without having to buy another module.
Load terminals are a bit of a mixed bag. They are usually controlled by a solid-state relay (a FET in the charge controller), often with serious limitations and a ton of fragility. I don't know how good the HQST's load output is but I can say for sure that Victron's solid state relays are pretty horrible. I've burned more than one out on their smaller charge controllers (Victron doesn't even have load terminals on their larger charger controllers any more). Even Victron's battery protect devices are fairly poor at dealing with inductive loads and devices with input capacitors.
I wonder how good HQST's load output is.
It's interesting that you can parallel 2 of these together but I'm wondering what are the advantages of doing so, since you can run multiple charge controllers on one battery bank anyway.
That's what I posted. I have 2 different mppts on 1 battery bank and I have zero problem.
Multiple charge controllers will read different battery voltages on the battery bus due to a combination of differences in the voltage sensor and differences in the currents each charge controller is pushing.
Generally speaking the comms are just there so the charge controllers change battery charging states in tandem. e.g. Bulk -> Absorb, Absorb -> Float, Float -> Bulk. It is not absolutely necessary that it happen, it's just less of an eyesore when they are synchronized. The network will choose one charge controller's voltage reading and all the units will use that one source.
In a Victron system, for example, this is automatic when the charge controllers are on the same Bluetooth VNET. In addition, the Victron app will blare warnings at you if any of the charge controllers have different parameter settings.
A couple of questions on the 20mpg model. Could this be used to charge something like a Bluetti eb70s? If so, since it supports 12 and 24 volt charging, what would it auto detect from the eb70s’ 8mm port? Also, and I’m not sure what the right term is, but what’s the charge voltage for a 24v lfp battery? I believe it’s in the 14s for a 12 v, does that mean for a 24v that it would be in the 28s or 29s (possibly exceeding the eb70s’ 28v max)? I doubt it would be financially advantageous to do this just to get a few extra w out of my panels, but I have been on a quest of how to squeak out the most efficient charging given the eb70s’ limits, without purchasing their panels, which are fairly expensive. I currently own two 120w panels and I think their VoC is something like 21.7v ish (can’t remember the exact spec off the top of my head), so I hit the 8amp limit on the eb70s before hitting 200w of input.
Solar generators already have built in solar controllers so you can't use this on those.
I would certainly go for the 60amp model. I think you should have a charge controller that can supply enough energy for a 12v 100ah battery.
Speaking of battery cables. I use 4/0 cable to and from the battery (via busbar) as well as the inverter and I use 4awg cable for pretty much everything else. Welding cable of course.
At 60A charge rate, a 100Ah battery is pretty small, and going to often leave the solar panel output under utilized. 🤔
@@davidgunther8428 depends on the size of the solar array. In a Van or RV 300-1200 watt of solar is common, with most people being between 300-600 watt. That 60amp charge controller handles 900 watt of solar.
@@TheCornucopiaProject-bd5jk at 600W the charge time for 12.8V 100Ah battery would be about 2.5 hours. The rest of the day the solar would barely be utilized. At 900W in, I think the battery would be in constant current charging for less than an hour, then start to taper. This is why I thought 100Ah is small for a 60A charger.
@@davidgunther8428 ok, I re-read my original statement. I wasn’t clear. I think the 20 and 40amp controllers are undersized even for a 100ah battery. While the 20amp 300watt controller can charge a battery in a day, I rather have the “option” to add solar panels to either charge my battery faster and/or get a full charge even during bad weather conditions. I like to have expansion capabilities even if I don’t exercise them. So I’d always get the larger model
This sounds like a great alternative to a Victron. I had decided I was stuck with Victron since I was going to use batteries without low-temp protection and was instead planning on using the $900 Victron to shut charging down if the temp drops. Now you asked an important question for me regarding whether or not the better app is worth the extra money. Since I've used neither, could you or someone please help me understand what I'd lose if I didn't go with Victron? I'd probably still go with a Multiplus inverter because of its low idle power consumption, but would I really miss out on anything if I can't use the mppt part of the victron amp? Thanks to anyone who can enlighten me on this. I'd rather just buy two 40A HQST units for ~$225 than spend ~$900 on a Victron if I don't really gain anything other than some bells/whistles and possibly longevity.
P.S. I always stick around to the end of your videos just to see Odin's commands! Funny AF
Sorry no one answered you..I don't smart phone, so I'll need to use my kids' to even see "any" app..
Funny Fact;
I was about to get the Victron..I was so set on it that I had this video in Que way back when it was new, and ignored this video because due to issues with cheaper stuff, I was done playin'.. Well, as life goes I got side tracked on other projects and I'm just now getting around to playin' with my solar stuff, and I decided to hear this video out, only to hear this basically is a Victron - so I just went from buying one Victron at a time to three of these 60 amps (I'm going 48v on this next system, and my bugout location gets in the single digits), and I'll be way better off for it.
So what'd ya get? I'm also curious about the Multiplus for the same reason.
And of COURSE ya stay for Odin..I mean duuh..🤷♂😂
If you have the Victron shunt or any other Victron device with a temperature sensor capability in the Victron virtual bluetooth network, all the charge controllers can use it and they will all shutdown and restart in tandem using that one sensor.
Any serious system is going to want to have a shunt anyway, and generally you don't want the charge controllers to each have their own temp sensor because you might have multiple charge controllers in the system and that would become a bit of a mess. Even just having a master with a temp sensor is not ideal... the shunt will be a lot closer to the battery than the charge controllers, typically.
The Victron 100/20 is a much cheaper device than the 60A HQST. Half the cost. Less than half the cost. And while it is only 20A, at 51.2V that is still 1000W of solar. You would be hard-pressed to find a solar topology that actually produces 60A @ 51.2V with the HQST due to the HQST's voltage limit.
But if your solar topology does that for you, then perhaps the HQST is the way to go. In most cases though the panel groups are far enough apart that you want them on separate MPPTs and not all ganged onto one MPPT.
-Matt
Just stumbled on this after dragging my feet on not wanting to spend victron money but needing 100+ amps of charging with room to expand. I see these can be paralleled, but curious if three can be used together?
Yes
I wish victron had these colors
It actually looks quite decent, very similar to Victron charge controllers though I dunno if they have the level of device integration that Victron has. Particularly if one has a shunt in the system. Victron has a number of very flexible relay control features.
You can always parallel charge controllers, no integration required for that. But Victron's can be ganged together in a virtual bluetooth network so they will communicate with each other without any cabling.
Now one area where the Victron really falls short is the auxiliary Load output. Only some of Victron's smaller charge controllers have it, and more importantly the Victron load output can't handle startup surges... for example, if you are trying to power a small inverter or grid-tie microinverter from the load output, or any device with input capacitors, the Victron will fall flat and not be able to enable the output (it thinks it is shorted and gives up). So I wonder how the HQST controller deals with startup surges like that, and also whether the HQST can handle the full 20A on a 48V system, as well as a bit of power factor, without blowing up its load switch (which is usually a FET).
I also wonder what kind of solar "voltage" headroom is required above the battery voltage to be able to get the full output. It is fairly typical for very high efficiency charge controllers to be buck-only (rather than buck-boost). This means that the solar operating voltage has to be a number of volts above the battery voltage to be able to push full amps into the battery. Usually 5-10V or so.
It looks on the face of it that the HQST is passively heat-sinked, as is the Victron, which is a big plus. Any charge controller that requires a fan is a charge controller that you should never buy.
Its too bad that HQST only offers 48V support with their 60A charge controller. And for a premium too, $220. That is not competitive with Victron's SmartSolar 100/20 which is also able to handle 48V battery systems and is only $90. At 48V (well, 51.2V nominal), 20A is usually plenty for a small system... over 1000W and generally one is already ganging a few strings together to get it so you generally want a separate MPPT input for any further expansion. A lot of the 60A capability of the HQST is going to be wasted due to the limited voltage range the HQST support. Victron has a more balanced, useful offering in this regard.
-Matt
Can a pwm safely charge a lifepo4 battery?
My hqst controller came in a box labeled renogy
I cant find HQST customer service phone number ? And how would you rate HQST 60 vs Renogys 60 Amp model ? Have you done a Renogy charge controller review ? Thanks Dr. Hobo.
Can you clear something up about Master/Slave assignment? Is it possible to make the 60A a master and the 20A a slave and get that arrangement to stick? Asking for myself and a friend. Obvious workaround is to just get two 60A's. The reason is that we want the low-temp charging cutoff to be active on both controllers.
As I said in the review it is random.
Looking at the 40 amp model now....if my panels are under the 100 volts voc but they produce about 900 watts out of the 4 panels will this blow the controller??
The controller will simply limit to 40A output.
@@HOBOTECH thanks sir!