Have you thought of doing a ‘favorite scenes’ list? Or a ranking of best teasers/cold opens? Or funniest moments? Maybe most pivotal scenes? Character by character breakdowns? Just some thoughts to consider 😃
You're nuts for putting Coushatta as a C tier. In the grand scheme of things, it's like the beginning of Act 3 of the series with the introduction of Lalo. Plus the scam to get Huell out of trouble is among the best of the entire series. For me, that episode is a dark horse S tier. It's fun, entertaining and important!
@@happyhuell6664 Lalo’s introduction was the most talked about thing in season 4 barring Saul’s reinstatement hearings and Werner’s death. The scam was also decisive from a character standpoint since it brought Jimmy and Kim’s relationship back to life.
Season 4 gets way too much hate imo. Yeah, the first four episodes arent spectacular, but they each have their moments. Episodes 405-410 are all amazing for me
Right? It's classic BCS - character work with process, scams and ground laying. The series does build to the final two seasons but there's so much to love in season 4.
The Travelwire incident isn't that unrealistic. Someone robbed a Western Union through the exact same means. The writers remembered that news story and incorporated it.
The problem is that Lalo is capable of these superhuman feats consistently and spontaneously. The Travelwire incident seems like something that needs to be planned. Lalo also survived an assassination attempt at his house with men who had assault rifles. It just tested my suspension of disbelief a little too much.
@@j-rey- what’s your issue with Lalo beating the assassins? I might agree with you if he beat them in a shoot out like the twins but I think the way he took them out made complete sense.
@@samuelrichards5521 being clever isn’t an issue because thinking fast on his feet is apart of his character, and I don’t remember anything that’s unrealistically clever. How is he incompetent?
Coushatta is one of my favorite episodes outside of the really big episodes (Bagman, Plan and Execution etc). It's relatively low stakes but there's so much setup for the future. Dont understand why he placed it so low but to each there own I guess.
I think the scene where Kim sees all of those planned banks by Kevin is actually not just about the amount of work. I'm sure that's part of it, but I also think it's about the work being specifically unfulfilling to her. I think that's the moment she felt like "So this is going to be my life's work, huh? Helping to build some banks?" when in effect she wants to truly help people. That's why an episode or two later she actually goes to get pro bono cases. Because she realized that she didn't want to spend all of her time on the Mesa Verda stuff because it felt empty and vapid for her.
As an engineer I loved 405. The two engineers explaining their different mindsets and using different tools was always one of the favorite underrated scenes. Other than that episode I agree with your tierlist
I know you said several times that Werner's obliviousness seemed unrealistic to you, but trust me that level of social obliviousness is very plausible for an engineer.
11:37 - I absolutely LOVE this scene where Jimmy almost instantly gets a job and then goes off and rejects it. It's ambiguous, obviously, but to me I interpret that as the following: Jimmy is repressing his guilt about Chuck's death but it's still there underneath. Jimmy just chooses not to deal with it. However, when he does his spiel in front of them he feels like he has just tricked them. If he tricked them then that means he's a trickster, a con man. Just as Chuck always said he was. In other words, he feels like he's confirming that the way Chuck saw him (as a con man who would never change and always hurt people) was correct. If he has to admit that Chuck was right about him, and didn't hate him for irrational reasons, then he has to admit to himself that maybe his brother would have loved him if he'd acted better. In other words, that not only is Chuck's death his fault but Chuck didn't deserve it either. That gives him too much guilt. Because he feels that much guilt, he gets angry at those people and tells them off as a way of letting out his pain and also of proving Chuck's idea of him wrong. However, he continues to feel angry at them at the same time. And so he decides just "Fuck them, they're terrible" and to get back at them by robbing them. Don't get me wrong, do I think Jimmy consciously realizes all of this? No, not at all. I think the moment he talked them into giving him a job he just felt inexplicable guilt boiling up inside of him which made him angry and feel bad. But even after he told them off he still felt angry and thus thought "Fuck those guys, I'm getting back at them by robbing them
This season, in conjunction with the finale, really cast Chuck and his relationship with Jimmy in a new light. Say what to want about him, but even though he was a huge contributing factor in Saul being Saul, it was ultimately Jimmy refusing to take responsibility for Chuck and the fact his schemes led to his death that made him who he was. So in the end, Chuck was not Crazy. He knew Jimmy swapped those numbers. He knew it was 1216. One after Magna Carta! As if he could ever make such a mistake! NEVER! Never! He just...he couldn't prove it! Jimmy covered his tracks, he got that idiot at the copy shop to lie for him. You think that was bad? That? That Chicanery? Jimmy has done worse! That billboard, do you think a man just happens to fall like that? He Orchestrated it! Jimmy! He DEFECATED through a SUN ROOF! And Chuck saved him? And he shouldn't have! He took Jimmy into his own firm! What was he thinking? Jimmy will never change, he'll NEVER CHANGE! Ever since he was nine, always with his hand in the cash drawer! But not their Jimmy! Not their precious Jimmy! Stealing them blind! And he gets to be a lawyer? What a sick joke! And the new Mexico Bar Association! They HAVE TO STOP JIMMY! They--
Seeing episode 3 recently I was amusing myself headcanoning that Gus has a tiny soft spot for Gale and hired him cause they're both gay, and Gus could tell because of Gale doing shit like singing nerdy show tunes. XD
Cool to see a retrospective video regarding Better Call Saul’s Fourth Season. I’ve always enjoyed this season. Seeing how Jimmy internalizes his guilt and putting a facade on was a great way to show how he’s getting closer to becoming the Saul Goodman we know from Breaking Bad. Keep up the great work man!
@@TheVividKiWi I suppose what I love about it is the air of inevitability of fate that hangs over so many of the characters this season. Mike starts out trying to call the shots with what he will and won’t do for Gus, but he messes up so bad he seals his fate. All because he was blinded by having a friend, which is so sad. And then Nacho having to play the cards that he partially dealt to himself is just heartbreaking. And of course, Jimmy fighting giving into his darker side, but the world won’t let him be anything else. He realizes this when he gives that speech to Christy, and then breaks down with the realization that his fate is to become Saul Goodman. He tries to look to Kim to become better, but ultimately she can’t help but drag him down…and herself along with it. Powerful stuff. I get that this may be the least action-packed season, but the psychological drama hit its peak with this season, and to me it’s the heart and soul of the entire series.
My favorite season, and so many underrated episodes here. Shocked that any merited a C tier. I’ve watched this season at least 10 times, and it only gets more and more tragic to me with the knowledge of what happens afterward.
Winner is considered one of the best BCS episodes and it's still underrated. Of both shows I would rank it as the fourth best season finale behind Lantern, Face Off, and Felina
This season is so underrated. As good as Season 3 IMO, it’s definitely slower but it’s has some of the best and most subtle writing of the show. Best Jimmy arc and best build up with the best finale ep. Especially with context of the final season I appreciated this season more. Also how the hell did you find the Coushatta scheme to be forgettable? I’m 99% sure that’s one of the most praised schemes on the show by most people
Lalo is, far and above, the best antagonist from the Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul universe. Also, it was genius how they played with the sentence, "The winner takes it all".
Hank Schrader is the best antagonist in BrBa/BCS universe. He's the main antagonist of Breaking Bad and very fleshed-out character. Remember that antagonist is someone who opposes protagonist, Antagonist doesn't need to be a bad guy.
the Fly is the very best antagonist in BB/BCS universe. he's the main antagonist of breaking bad episode "fly" and a very fleshed-out character. Remember that antagonist is someone who opposes protagonist, Antagonist doesn't need to be a bald man
52:01 - Personally, I think there's another reason why Jimmy gives Rich a hard time. I think Jimmy feels very out of place in that place. I think the context reminds him of Chuck and the rejection of him by people like Chuck and Rich and other people in that successful lawyer world. I think this is also reflect in Jimmy's speech in "Winner" to the Esposito girl. He just has a general problem with these successful corporate lawyer types because of how much they remind him of Chuck and his own rejection.
Something stupid is an S tier for me, literally a collection of amazing scenes showing the show's creativity and heart at its best. Almost a 10/10, barely not SS for me. 4x10 is easily SS though. Season 4 is the first amazing season imo
I'd just like to say that I've watched your content for a long time and really appreciate the time and effort you put into this channel, huge props man!
Idk why you don’t like the super lab arc, I loved it. For some reason, the way they wrote and shot scenes that have to do with the super lab are weirdly eerie and somber, which I love.
The album cover for this season's music says a lot: Jimmy is broken inside, however still having a chance to take accountability and fix Jimmy, but in the Winner episode he decides to mask it with Saul Goodman. That's why Winner is my favorite episode, and the other things too.
Kiwi's thoughts and analysis on episode rankings usually mirror my own, but I must disagree on Coushatta as I absolutely adored that episode! The letter writing campaign scam was such a fun a plot; it carried weight and suspense simply because of the volume of mail fraud, and the scene with the cell phones and the Louisiana impersonations was absolutely hilarious! Add the Lalo introduction to the finish and it gets at least an "A tier" from me. Either way, thanks for all the videos you do Kiwi! Your Better Call Saul content continues to be must watch for any diehard fan of the show.
so in the end, lalo actually planted the seed that brought gus to his demise, which was way more "lalo" like than the way lalo went down. i wonder if the writers meant that.
Season 4 is probably my least favorite(Not that it's bad mind you) but Winner is easily one of my favorite episodes of the show. That speech he gives to the girl is probably my favorite scene from Bob Odenkirk. It's just dripping his subtext.
Winner is top 10 in the series and like Top 20 of the breaking bad universe. So much happens. We see the aftermath of Chuck's death, the end of Werner's character, the start of Lalo's role as horrifying main villain, and of course the final scene where Jimmy transforms into Saul and becomes the lawyer for criminals we all know and love
I interpreted the jimmy being aggressively unphased by chucks death as him just surpressing his emotions and putting on a tough guy show for everyone else bc he didn't want to face his own guilt and it's shown in later episodes esp the finale it actually affected him deeply I think kim knew that and was extremely frustrated with jimmy not dealing with his grief and spiraling more into criminality due to that
I've casually replayed season 6 over and over a few times just to "hang on" to the show a bit longer. I am now sort of going in reverse. I've re-watched season 5 now and I am on to season 4. Thanks Kiwi. Your videos have made me want to go back. 👍👍 I think after I've finished the re-watch for S04, I may jump back to S01 and go from there leading to S03. Going backwards is a bit strange. 😆
With all due respect, it was _not_ "unreasonable" or "unfair" for Gus and Michael not to let Werner see his wife. Werner signed up for a job that was veiled in secrecy -- he knew that when he was driven to the initial interview blindfolded, and knowing Gus and Mike, was warned about the job being confidential from the beginning. Having a wife circling around increases the odds of the lab construction project being found out. That said, I appreciate the comprehensive recap!
Weird that Hank was unable to find out that Mike was on the payroll and in fact a employee in Madrigal - in the BB scene with Hank interviewing Mike, he only mention Los Pollos as security/background checker.
23:59 "gotta make it look real" is the last thing nacho says to mike before his final beating which was also being done to build a lie for the Salamanca's. NO ONE caught this "easter egg" when they did their commentary on nacho's final episode
I loved the superlab eps, burner phone eps, and huell eps. All the B's I'd put in solid A. Also, Jimmy being reinstated finally as S tier. Not just a rewatchable season, but multiple rewatches imo.
Totally agree. Superlab arc is the best post Chuck arc of BCS. Also LOVE every Ethan Phillips scene. Hummels and Burner Phones are pure fun, some of the best scenes in season 4.
I can’t lie I completely forgot this season. In my head I just remembered Jimmy wasn’t a lawyer and the super lab was built. As you said there are great moments and you highlighted them so well with the montage tha end of the video!
4x08 at C tier is just a crime, that episode is really important, Lalo's introduction, Kim realizing how much she enjoys doing schemes with Jimmy (or not realizing but giving into it) and doing one of the best in the entire series. It also shows that they get off at doing that, immediatly after Ericsen gave up they kissed and went home to do it, and in the climax of the show (6x07) Howard mentioned that as one of the main factors on why they keep doing that together.
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I only watched the tail ending of the video at the moment (having a career teaching college students and the Fall semester starting up again next week means I sadly can't watch the full video at the moment). However, based on the little I saw I agree with you for the most part. A lot of the main plot points could've been executed better, and even some of the timelines were a bit confusing, as I didn't think initially that Chuck died so soon after Jimmy's suspension (although, I could be wrong). I think the only episodes I feel should've been higher are "Expenses" (307) and "Quite A Ride" (405). "Expenses" is one of my favorite episodes in the series. Watching Jimmy's financial downfall and how that affects him definitely is the seed that leads to what he did to Chuck, which is a huge factor in what leads him to become Saul Goodman. Plus, Bob Odenkirk was nominated for an Emmy for this episode as his acting is phenomenal. For me, it's either an "A" or an "S" tier. Whereas "Quite A Ride" has so much hidden symbolism and context clues throughout the episode that affects a lot of what occurred in season 6. I watched it multiple times on its own for context clues for the two years prior to season 6, and it led me to a lot of my leading theories on what'll happen (most of which were right- except for the card he hands Francesca in the BB flash-forward as we never come back to it, and Howard Hamlin's death as I focused on the wrong details in that beautiful scene). For me, it's an "A" tier episode. That's my take anyhow. However, if I agree for 38/40 episodes then you've definitely nailed it as that's a 95% accuracy rate (again, at least for me). I look forward to watching this in full in the next week or so to see what new insights I may develop and I'll likely recomment then!
Season 4 to me isn't quite as good as season 3 but Winner is easily top 10 episodes of BCS and top 20 of the BB universe it perfectly ties up Werner's character, shows the aftermath of Chuck's death, sets up the arc of the most terrifying villain in both shows, and of course gives birth to Saul Goodman and his entrance into being the guilty people's lawyer. Of the season finales of both shows I would only rank it behind Lantern (BCS Season 3,) Face Off (BB Season 4,) and Felnia (BB Season 5 )
You are clinically insane Kiwi. Coushatta is easily S if not SS. Easily the best ep. of the season. Every scene... NO, every line of dialogue, every camera shot, every single moment (outside of Werner's naivete) PFM.
I agree with your analysis but it’s kind of rude how you put it . He spends hundreds of hours putting these together that you clearly enjoy. Disagree, but don’t be so nasty.
Let’s fucking gooooo it finally dropped. Kiwi you’re the man. I definitely disagree with a lot of these placements, I think s4 is criminally underrated but amazing video nonetheless
THE PIANO SONG!!! Did you guys get the easter egg? The notes had his ex wife rebeccas name on it. And when he plays it first he strokes her name as he sits it down on the stand! I only noticed because I wanted to get the name of the song to look up the notes. lIt is a composition for flute and piano on paper, but in the funeral scene we her a violin play along with the piano. So I feel like it is strongly implied they used to play it together and he is practicing it to feel closer to her or maybe even hoping they will play together again some day.
I actually really like season 4. I agree that the superlab arc isn't my favourite, but I will say that I think the pay-off kind of makes the build-up worth it to me. And personally I absolutely love Jimmy's arc in this season. I think it's important though to read it in context. Which is that: Yes, Jimmy doesn't talk about Chuck a lot here. But almost every action he takes in this season is driven indirectly by Chuck. People often talk about Jimmy compartimentalizing and repressing his feelings for Chuck. And certainly he does. But I also think people often overplay that as if Jimmy just repressed his feelings about Chuck at the beginning of the season and that was it. When I think it's actually the case that subconsciously Chuck hangs over this entire season for Jimmy. This entire season is really about Jimmy dealing with Chuck's death. And it's only at the very, very end when he completes that journey. He cries about feeling like his brother didn't love him and about feeling like he killed him. But then finally he decides to take the final step away from those feelings, harden himself and take on the name Saul Goodman and just accept that he will always hurt everyone in his life and that he's Slippin' Jimmy and will always be (just as Chuck told him). In other words, this entire season illustrates how the true genesis of "Saul Goodman" is in Chuck's death. Now, spoiler alert for season 6, but Kim leaving him IS the last thing that pushes him over the edge, don't get me wrong. But it was Chuck's death which walked him right up to that edge. Chuck's death put him on the road, even if Kim leaving is what allowed him to drive the final mile.
I disagree with the placement of 4x08, speaking for myself, the Huell con is one of my favorites of the show. If it were me it would be a strong A tier, good list nonetheless
According to the S5 Ep. 3 "The guy For This" commentary, where Jimmy is taken to meet Lalo for the first time, is the same garage-warehouse where the twins take Nacho and Caldera to save Nacho's life in S4. Ep.3.
I think it's really easy to see Howard in a sympathetic light after the events of season 6, but I really don't think that Kim was in the wrong for what she said to him.
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Have you thought of doing a ‘favorite scenes’ list? Or a ranking of best teasers/cold opens? Or funniest moments? Maybe most pivotal scenes? Character by character breakdowns?
Just some thoughts to consider 😃
Please do a Breaking Bad Tier List and A BCS Season Tier list .. I think from worst to best Sn4,2,3,1,5,6
You're nuts for putting Coushatta as a C tier. In the grand scheme of things, it's like the beginning of Act 3 of the series with the introduction of Lalo. Plus the scam to get Huell out of trouble is among the best of the entire series. For me, that episode is a dark horse S tier. It's fun, entertaining and important!
Jimmy’s voice for the pastor is SSS tier
It’s a silly scam episode and one of my favorites of the whole series
I love it, but it's pretty forgettable to be honest.
@@happyhuell6664 Lalo’s introduction was the most talked about thing in season 4 barring Saul’s reinstatement hearings and Werner’s death. The scam was also decisive from a character standpoint since it brought Jimmy and Kim’s relationship back to life.
Absolutely dudes fucking crazy
Season 4 gets way too much hate imo. Yeah, the first four episodes arent spectacular, but they each have their moments. Episodes 405-410 are all amazing for me
Right? It's classic BCS - character work with process, scams and ground laying. The series does build to the final two seasons but there's so much to love in season 4.
This season gets hate? I think it might be my favorite
@@Chud_Bud_Supreme Yeah, right? I love it so much!
Nah it deserves the hate it gets, it's the worst season of the show ( worst is also good because it's a bcs season )
@@shahzadmunawarnizamani7186 i think that season 4 is my favorite and season 2 is the worst but to each their own
The Travelwire incident isn't that unrealistic. Someone robbed a Western Union through the exact same means. The writers remembered that news story and incorporated it.
The fact that so many people feel like it was unrealistic really emphasizes to me though how sometimes truth can be stranger than fiction.
The problem is that Lalo is capable of these superhuman feats consistently and spontaneously. The Travelwire incident seems like something that needs to be planned. Lalo also survived an assassination attempt at his house with men who had assault rifles. It just tested my suspension of disbelief a little too much.
@@j-rey- what’s your issue with Lalo beating the assassins? I might agree with you if he beat them in a shoot out like the twins but I think the way he took them out made complete sense.
@@KangarooMonkeyI have more problems with it in retrospect. Lalo is both bafflingly incompetent and extraordinarily clever.
@@samuelrichards5521 being clever isn’t an issue because thinking fast on his feet is apart of his character, and I don’t remember anything that’s unrealistically clever.
How is he incompetent?
coushatta hate is weird it's such a fun scam, the lalo introduction is perfect and the werner side is really good
agree
coushatta is S tier in my opinion
is very fun to watch
Agreed, I was surprised he only gave it a C tier
Coushatta is one of my favorite episodes outside of the really big episodes (Bagman, Plan and Execution etc). It's relatively low stakes but there's so much setup for the future. Dont understand why he placed it so low but to each there own I guess.
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@@BruhMoment-mn9knbest intro
408 in C??? The Huell letter thing is one of the best moments in the whole show
6:25
"After the wedding".
The idea that after chuck's funeral there was a random wedding and everyone attended is so funny to me
I think the scene where Kim sees all of those planned banks by Kevin is actually not just about the amount of work. I'm sure that's part of it, but I also think it's about the work being specifically unfulfilling to her. I think that's the moment she felt like "So this is going to be my life's work, huh? Helping to build some banks?" when in effect she wants to truly help people. That's why an episode or two later she actually goes to get pro bono cases. Because she realized that she didn't want to spend all of her time on the Mesa Verda stuff because it felt empty and vapid for her.
As an engineer I loved 405. The two engineers explaining their different mindsets and using different tools was always one of the favorite underrated scenes. Other than that episode I agree with your tierlist
I love Kim’s dafuq face at the end of episode 1 after jimmy says that’s your cross to bear. Makes me laugh every time.
It's so brutal. Howard deserved better.
I know you said several times that Werner's obliviousness seemed unrealistic to you, but trust me that level of social obliviousness is very plausible for an engineer.
Werner’s last line kills me every time, everything about that scene makes the whole lab arch worth it.
11:37 - I absolutely LOVE this scene where Jimmy almost instantly gets a job and then goes off and rejects it. It's ambiguous, obviously, but to me I interpret that as the following: Jimmy is repressing his guilt about Chuck's death but it's still there underneath. Jimmy just chooses not to deal with it. However, when he does his spiel in front of them he feels like he has just tricked them. If he tricked them then that means he's a trickster, a con man. Just as Chuck always said he was. In other words, he feels like he's confirming that the way Chuck saw him (as a con man who would never change and always hurt people) was correct. If he has to admit that Chuck was right about him, and didn't hate him for irrational reasons, then he has to admit to himself that maybe his brother would have loved him if he'd acted better. In other words, that not only is Chuck's death his fault but Chuck didn't deserve it either. That gives him too much guilt. Because he feels that much guilt, he gets angry at those people and tells them off as a way of letting out his pain and also of proving Chuck's idea of him wrong. However, he continues to feel angry at them at the same time. And so he decides just "Fuck them, they're terrible" and to get back at them by robbing them.
Don't get me wrong, do I think Jimmy consciously realizes all of this? No, not at all. I think the moment he talked them into giving him a job he just felt inexplicable guilt boiling up inside of him which made him angry and feel bad. But even after he told them off he still felt angry and thus thought "Fuck those guys, I'm getting back at them by robbing them
You repeat yourself very much, good sir
Man 90% of drama shows would be way less interesting if the characters just went to fuckin therapy lol
This season, in conjunction with the finale, really cast Chuck and his relationship with Jimmy in a new light. Say what to want about him, but even though he was a huge contributing factor in Saul being Saul, it was ultimately Jimmy refusing to take responsibility for Chuck and the fact his schemes led to his death that made him who he was. So in the end, Chuck was not Crazy. He knew Jimmy swapped those numbers. He knew it was 1216. One after Magna Carta! As if he could ever make such a mistake! NEVER! Never! He just...he couldn't prove it! Jimmy covered his tracks, he got that idiot at the copy shop to lie for him. You think that was bad? That? That Chicanery? Jimmy has done worse! That billboard, do you think a man just happens to fall like that? He Orchestrated it! Jimmy! He DEFECATED through a SUN ROOF! And Chuck saved him? And he shouldn't have! He took Jimmy into his own firm! What was he thinking? Jimmy will never change, he'll NEVER CHANGE! Ever since he was nine, always with his hand in the cash drawer! But not their Jimmy! Not their precious Jimmy! Stealing them blind! And he gets to be a lawyer? What a sick joke!
And the new Mexico Bar Association! They HAVE TO STOP JIMMY! They--
Please go against chucks words, and change.
@@andrewstephens5885 No, Andrew... it... it makes me happy! How can something be bad when it makes me happy?! I... I love it!
You got me in the first half
Seeing episode 3 recently I was amusing myself headcanoning that Gus has a tiny soft spot for Gale and hired him cause they're both gay, and Gus could tell because of Gale doing shit like singing nerdy show tunes. XD
Cool to see a retrospective video regarding Better Call Saul’s Fourth Season. I’ve always enjoyed this season. Seeing how Jimmy internalizes his guilt and putting a facade on was a great way to show how he’s getting closer to becoming the Saul Goodman we know from Breaking Bad. Keep up the great work man!
All right! Season 4 tier list! I've been waiting for this one for quite a while now! And at an hour and 47 minutes it's a doozy!👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Im so thankful you are still pumping out videos. Have a great weekend Kiwi!
I had no idea that you didn't like the Superlab and burner phone arcs! I love those so much 😭
Exactly. Those plots are so pivotal to everything that came afterwards. This is my favorite season because it’s all so tragic.
@@leamanc Yeah, it's the perfect blend of the show's earlier and later days.
Was exciting the first time I saw it, but in hindsight it’s boring with no replay value imo. Kinda drags hard idk.
@@TheVividKiWi I suppose what I love about it is the air of inevitability of fate that hangs over so many of the characters this season. Mike starts out trying to call the shots with what he will and won’t do for Gus, but he messes up so bad he seals his fate. All because he was blinded by having a friend, which is so sad. And then Nacho having to play the cards that he partially dealt to himself is just heartbreaking. And of course, Jimmy fighting giving into his darker side, but the world won’t let him be anything else. He realizes this when he gives that speech to Christy, and then breaks down with the realization that his fate is to become Saul Goodman. He tries to look to Kim to become better, but ultimately she can’t help but drag him down…and herself along with it. Powerful stuff.
I get that this may be the least action-packed season, but the psychological drama hit its peak with this season, and to me it’s the heart and soul of the entire series.
My favorite season, and so many underrated episodes here. Shocked that any merited a C tier. I’ve watched this season at least 10 times, and it only gets more and more tragic to me with the knowledge of what happens afterward.
Winner is considered one of the best BCS episodes and it's still underrated. Of both shows I would rank it as the fourth best season finale behind Lantern, Face Off, and Felina
@@benro6564 did you forget Full Measure?
can't wait for s5 and s6 tiers. those episodes are legendary, appreciate the hard work it takes to do these Kiwi!
Almost broke my phone with how fast I clicked on this new Tier List video!
Thanks for the support :)
God these vids are the best to have on while doing something
This season is so underrated. As good as Season 3 IMO, it’s definitely slower but it’s has some of the best and most subtle writing of the show. Best Jimmy arc and best build up with the best finale ep. Especially with context of the final season I appreciated this season more.
Also how the hell did you find the Coushatta scheme to be forgettable? I’m 99% sure that’s one of the most praised schemes on the show by most people
I’m happy ppl like it, I just find it boring imo. Fun the first time I saw it, but no replay value - to me at least. To each their own.
@@TheVividKiWi yeah I get it, for me personally that season is Season 2, but all of the show is excellent. Thanks for the reply and great videos btw!
I think you mean overlooked
Lalo is, far and above, the best antagonist from the Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul universe.
Also, it was genius how they played with the sentence, "The winner takes it all".
Hank Schrader is the best antagonist in BrBa/BCS universe. He's the main antagonist of Breaking Bad and very fleshed-out character.
Remember that antagonist is someone who opposes protagonist, Antagonist doesn't need to be a bad guy.
the Fly is the very best antagonist in BB/BCS universe. he's the main antagonist of breaking bad episode "fly" and a very fleshed-out character.
Remember that antagonist is someone who opposes protagonist, Antagonist doesn't need to be a bald man
YESSS, I have been waiting for this video
52:01 - Personally, I think there's another reason why Jimmy gives Rich a hard time. I think Jimmy feels very out of place in that place. I think the context reminds him of Chuck and the rejection of him by people like Chuck and Rich and other people in that successful lawyer world. I think this is also reflect in Jimmy's speech in "Winner" to the Esposito girl. He just has a general problem with these successful corporate lawyer types because of how much they remind him of Chuck and his own rejection.
This was fantastic work Kiwi. That relationship with Chuck and Jimmy was so complex and toxic. Chuck’s end was incredibly tragic -OMG
Been looking forward to this. Right on! Excited for Season 5!
Something stupid is an S tier for me, literally a collection of amazing scenes showing the show's creativity and heart at its best. Almost a 10/10, barely not SS for me. 4x10 is easily SS though. Season 4 is the first amazing season imo
Bravo Kiwi, you are the gold standard for show analysis!
Just finished the season 3 recap yesterday and was looking for something to watch!!!
I'd just like to say that I've watched your content for a long time and really appreciate the time and effort you put into this channel, huge props man!
Oh yeah! Been waiting for this video! 🙏
This has been my favourite season of the show since it came out. With episode 10 being my favourite of the entire show
Same
thevividkiwi vids are my comfort vids
I’ve been waiting for this for longer than I’d like to admit 😭
THE KING IS BACK
Idk why you don’t like the super lab arc, I loved it. For some reason, the way they wrote and shot scenes that have to do with the super lab are weirdly eerie and somber, which I love.
Winner is easily my favorite episode of BCS, and the karaoke scene with Chuck never fails to make me cry.
Yessir finally something i can watch while eating again
Damn man you went all out on this video! Great job!
I love these episode tier lists from diffrent seasons. Good work!
Did anyone notice he said wedding and not funeral at 6:23 omg
6:24 Oop! Funeral, not wedding. I was confused for a sec
The album cover for this season's music says a lot: Jimmy is broken inside, however still having a chance to take accountability and fix Jimmy, but in the Winner episode he decides to mask it with Saul Goodman. That's why Winner is my favorite episode, and the other things too.
BEEN WAITING FOR THIS
Kiwi's thoughts and analysis on episode rankings usually mirror my own, but I must disagree on Coushatta as I absolutely adored that episode! The letter writing campaign scam was such a fun a plot; it carried weight and suspense simply because of the volume of mail fraud, and the scene with the cell phones and the Louisiana impersonations was absolutely hilarious! Add the Lalo introduction to the finish and it gets at least an "A tier" from me. Either way, thanks for all the videos you do Kiwi! Your Better Call Saul content continues to be must watch for any diehard fan of the show.
so in the end, lalo actually planted the seed that brought gus to his demise, which was way more "lalo" like than the way lalo went down. i wonder if the writers meant that.
I BEEN WAITING FOR THIS KIWI
Even though I've already seen this it's so fun to rewatch this. I love these videos and better call saul so much!!
Been waiting for this video to drop!!
Season 4 is probably my least favorite(Not that it's bad mind you) but Winner is easily one of my favorite episodes of the show. That speech he gives to the girl is probably my favorite scene from Bob Odenkirk. It's just dripping his subtext.
Winner is top 10 in the series and like Top 20 of the breaking bad universe. So much happens. We see the aftermath of Chuck's death, the end of Werner's character, the start of Lalo's role as horrifying main villain, and of course the final scene where Jimmy transforms into Saul and becomes the lawyer for criminals we all know and love
I interpreted the jimmy being aggressively unphased by chucks death as him just surpressing his emotions and putting on a tough guy show for everyone else bc he didn't want to face his own guilt and it's shown in later episodes esp the finale it actually affected him deeply
I think kim knew that and was extremely frustrated with jimmy not dealing with his grief and spiraling more into criminality due to that
Oh yes, I've been looking forward to this
been binging all the tier list videos while watching the show for the first time. it has been a wild ride and here I am on season 4!
I've casually replayed season 6 over and over a few times just to "hang on" to the show a bit longer. I am now sort of going in reverse. I've re-watched season 5 now and I am on to season 4. Thanks Kiwi. Your videos have made me want to go back. 👍👍 I think after I've finished the re-watch for S04, I may jump back to S01 and go from there leading to S03. Going backwards is a bit strange. 😆
With all due respect, it was _not_ "unreasonable" or "unfair" for Gus and Michael not to let Werner see his wife. Werner signed up for a job that was veiled in secrecy -- he knew that when he was driven to the initial interview blindfolded, and knowing Gus and Mike, was warned about the job being confidential from the beginning. Having a wife circling around increases the odds of the lab construction project being found out.
That said, I appreciate the comprehensive recap!
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yoooo i was just wondering when this video would come out
Yet another movie length worth of content from the legend Kiwi, great job!
Weird that Hank was unable to find out that Mike was on the payroll and in fact a employee in Madrigal - in the BB scene with Hank interviewing Mike, he only mention Los Pollos as security/background checker.
The end of Werner's arc ALWAYS gets me. It's sadder than the end of Chuck's arc imo
Nah Werner was stupid and annoying
I love jimmy selling burner phones
Its also where we got the awesome lola marsh cover of Something Stupid during a Jimmy Kim Montage
23:59 "gotta make it look real" is the last thing nacho says to mike before his final beating which was also being done to build a lie for the Salamanca's. NO ONE caught this "easter egg" when they did their commentary on nacho's final episode
I loved the superlab eps, burner phone eps, and huell eps. All the B's I'd put in solid A. Also, Jimmy being reinstated finally as S tier. Not just a rewatchable season, but multiple rewatches imo.
Totally agree. Superlab arc is the best post Chuck arc of BCS. Also LOVE every Ethan Phillips scene. Hummels and Burner Phones are pure fun, some of the best scenes in season 4.
Let’s gooooo always love these videos
Absolutely LOVE these!!! Thank you for all your work over the years on your reviews/posts. I really hope you plan on doing Season 5. 🙏
I can’t lie I completely forgot this season. In my head I just remembered Jimmy wasn’t a lawyer and the super lab was built. As you said there are great moments and you highlighted them so well with the montage tha end of the video!
4x08 at C tier is just a crime, that episode is really important, Lalo's introduction, Kim realizing how much she enjoys doing schemes with Jimmy (or not realizing but giving into it) and doing one of the best in the entire series. It also shows that they get off at doing that, immediatly after Ericsen gave up they kissed and went home to do it, and in the climax of the show (6x07) Howard mentioned that as one of the main factors on why they keep doing that together.
my vacuum cleaner needed some repairs so i called up hoover to order a filter for a pressure max 60, and twenty minutes later a van pulled up to the house and the driver told me to get in, he was taking me to montana.
Babe! Kiwi posted another Better Call Saul video!
come on Kiwi I'm not tolerating that Coushatta slander!
Jokes aside I love your vids, I hope to see what else you have in mind after Better Call Saul!
Like bruh. Coushatta is a great episode
Wordless scenes of Mike doing projects are absolutely priceless.
Always a good time when you drop a new video
I don't consider season 4 my favorite, but watching this recap, you make a strong case.
thanks for this video. i can now Yell at my friend with real points about why season 4 isnt bad and is amazing
That Coushatta pick hurts.
Speeding through all of the security issues that Mike was saying was hilarious
I was just thinking when will you drop this video and it's here. Missing the bcs content
fantastic video as always
so mad i have work tomorrow morning and cant watch this
I only watched the tail ending of the video at the moment (having a career teaching college students and the Fall semester starting up again next week means I sadly can't watch the full video at the moment). However, based on the little I saw I agree with you for the most part. A lot of the main plot points could've been executed better, and even some of the timelines were a bit confusing, as I didn't think initially that Chuck died so soon after Jimmy's suspension (although, I could be wrong).
I think the only episodes I feel should've been higher are "Expenses" (307) and "Quite A Ride" (405). "Expenses" is one of my favorite episodes in the series. Watching Jimmy's financial downfall and how that affects him definitely is the seed that leads to what he did to Chuck, which is a huge factor in what leads him to become Saul Goodman. Plus, Bob Odenkirk was nominated for an Emmy for this episode as his acting is phenomenal. For me, it's either an "A" or an "S" tier.
Whereas "Quite A Ride" has so much hidden symbolism and context clues throughout the episode that affects a lot of what occurred in season 6. I watched it multiple times on its own for context clues for the two years prior to season 6, and it led me to a lot of my leading theories on what'll happen (most of which were right- except for the card he hands Francesca in the BB flash-forward as we never come back to it, and Howard Hamlin's death as I focused on the wrong details in that beautiful scene). For me, it's an "A" tier episode.
That's my take anyhow. However, if I agree for 38/40 episodes then you've definitely nailed it as that's a 95% accuracy rate (again, at least for me). I look forward to watching this in full in the next week or so to see what new insights I may develop and I'll likely recomment then!
Season 4 to me isn't quite as good as season 3 but Winner is easily top 10 episodes of BCS and top 20 of the BB universe it perfectly ties up Werner's character, shows the aftermath of Chuck's death, sets up the arc of the most terrifying villain in both shows, and of course gives birth to Saul Goodman and his entrance into being the guilty people's lawyer. Of the season finales of both shows I would only rank it behind Lantern (BCS Season 3,) Face Off (BB Season 4,) and Felnia (BB Season 5 )
I watch so many of your vids I involuntarily started saying "HEY GUYS, KIWI HERE!" along with you at the beginning of this video lmfao
Excellent! Let’s go!
I swear when Lalo drop down from the roof that shit was badass. Lalo is just a Robert Rodriguez character in the Breaking Bad universe.
Agreed. It wasn't that unrealistic either. My ex brother-in-law robbed a couple of places like this
“There are so many stars visible in the New Mexico sky”
You are clinically insane Kiwi. Coushatta is easily S if not SS. Easily the best ep. of the season. Every scene... NO, every line of dialogue, every camera shot, every single moment (outside of Werner's naivete) PFM.
I agree with your analysis but it’s kind of rude how you put it . He spends hundreds of hours putting these together that you clearly enjoy. Disagree, but don’t be so nasty.
Saying that coushata is better than winner is maybe the worst take I have seen in years
31:54, that's not a Firebird, that's a Camaro.
Let’s fucking gooooo it finally dropped. Kiwi you’re the man. I definitely disagree with a lot of these placements, I think s4 is criminally underrated but amazing video nonetheless
Fair enough, thanks for the support!
THE PIANO SONG!!! Did you guys get the easter egg? The notes had his ex wife rebeccas name on it. And when he plays it first he strokes her name as he sits it down on the stand! I only noticed because I wanted to get the name of the song to look up the notes. lIt is a composition for flute and piano on paper, but in the funeral scene we her a violin play along with the piano. So I feel like it is strongly implied they used to play it together and he is practicing it to feel closer to her or maybe even hoping they will play together again some day.
I actually really like season 4. I agree that the superlab arc isn't my favourite, but I will say that I think the pay-off kind of makes the build-up worth it to me.
And personally I absolutely love Jimmy's arc in this season. I think it's important though to read it in context. Which is that: Yes, Jimmy doesn't talk about Chuck a lot here. But almost every action he takes in this season is driven indirectly by Chuck. People often talk about Jimmy compartimentalizing and repressing his feelings for Chuck. And certainly he does. But I also think people often overplay that as if Jimmy just repressed his feelings about Chuck at the beginning of the season and that was it. When I think it's actually the case that subconsciously Chuck hangs over this entire season for Jimmy. This entire season is really about Jimmy dealing with Chuck's death. And it's only at the very, very end when he completes that journey. He cries about feeling like his brother didn't love him and about feeling like he killed him. But then finally he decides to take the final step away from those feelings, harden himself and take on the name Saul Goodman and just accept that he will always hurt everyone in his life and that he's Slippin' Jimmy and will always be (just as Chuck told him).
In other words, this entire season illustrates how the true genesis of "Saul Goodman" is in Chuck's death. Now, spoiler alert for season 6, but Kim leaving him IS the last thing that pushes him over the edge, don't get me wrong. But it was Chuck's death which walked him right up to that edge. Chuck's death put him on the road, even if Kim leaving is what allowed him to drive the final mile.
I literally just rewatched the first 3 tier list and then you drop this lol. Talk about luck.
Me, too.
Season 4 ep: 8 - the judge says, "If I get one more letter from some swamp dwelling do-gooder"... Classic!
honey wake up, a new BCS tier list dropped!
I disagree with the placement of 4x08, speaking for myself, the Huell con is one of my favorites of the show. If it were me it would be a strong A tier, good list nonetheless
According to the S5 Ep. 3 "The guy For This" commentary, where Jimmy is taken to meet Lalo for the first time, is the same garage-warehouse where the twins take Nacho and Caldera to save Nacho's life in S4. Ep.3.
I think it's really easy to see Howard in a sympathetic light after the events of season 6, but I really don't think that Kim was in the wrong for what she said to him.
Yeah, I love Howard, but Kim was right. She wasn't trying to trick him, she was speaking genuinely.
Did we just see Kiwi's hands?!