It's really easy to write-off Lorenz as just being an a elitist prick, but he does have a genuinely good core to his character. When many characters will talk about their noble responsibilities and station, it's really just an excuse for them to be able to do whatever they want and ignore the needs of commoners. Lorenz is a true believer whose primary characteristic is his devotion to his duty. Whereas other nobles look at commoners with scorn and refuse to associate with them, for Lorenz it is merely a matter of decorum. He feels he has his place and the commoners have theirs, however he also feels his place is on the front lines defending them. And ultimately, he also softens on his ideas of nobles and commoners interacting, realizing that even if he has his responsibilities, that shouldn't stop them from being friends. He's actually got one of the better written, more nuanced character arcs in the game. But yes, he really needs to find a better barber.
What's next? Church of Seiros characters? Ashen wolves? Both at once? Also, I can confirm that Raphael gets some great supports in Three hopes! A lot of development for him! (His support with best boy Ashe is a standout for sure). And Lysethia as well, because puppy!
I'm planning to take a little break from Fe videos for a while actually, I elaborate more on this at the end of the video. I've seen some of the 3 Hopes supports, and I agree Raphael got some great ones with people like Ashe and Petra
Honestly I liked what they did with Claude in Three Hopes, it finally showed that he can be a master tactician and that he's willing to resort to underhanded tactics. Three Hopes had some flaws with its story, but I'm happy they made Claude commit to some questionable actions.
I think Xenoblade X's music is pretty underrated as a whole, but Sylvalum is definitely my favourite from the ost, and happy to hear we can agree on best girl
Ignatz being written off is crazy to me. His crazy crit and hit rate practically carried the last few chapter. It’s pretty easy to see early on how you can build him into a mage’s literal worst nightmare, considering his high resistance and crazy high luck stat.
Top 7 (Pretty easy list to make as hardly any of the golden deer stand out to me in a good way, aside from maybe 3). 7. Raphael - Too one note and kinda just there. 6. Ignatz - Had a few good supports, Flayn, Marianne and Ingrid specifically, but wasn't a standout unit. 5. Claude - I really just don't care for Claude's personality. He has little to no development as a character, and he's the only one who can survive all 4 routes in Houses because he's the next King of Almyra too. So he can kinda dip out of Fodlan and leave the rest of his men whenever he wants. He kinda gets carried by his battlefield performance. 4. Lorenz - At first, Lorenz was in contention alongside Lindhardt for being my least favorite male student. Luckily he redeemed himself in Hopes, which he probably has his father to thank for that, cause I enjoyed him much better in Hopes (or maybe it's just that Claude was so screwed up in Hopes that I'll take what I can get). 3. Hilda - Already said this, but Hilda's relationship with Caspar makes up for a multitude of sins. Her relationship with Holst and Balthus is also heckin funny in Hopes. 2. Leonie - Enjoy her design. And despite her obsessions for Jeralt, literally most characters in this game have an obsession over someone, and it doesn't really hinder her character at all for me. 1. Marianne - Obvious? Maybe. Do I care? Not really.
i truly think Claude's route is unfairly bashed. Yes, it's feels disconnected from the rest of the story sometimes, but that it. I think his story gets ripped on far more than it deserves and if it it were its own game it would be rated more fairly.
the golden deer are great its what i started with Claude is probably my favorite lord can understand why you would have mixed feelings of him tho and he does have missed potential but i think three hopes made up for that i think all of three houses playable characters are great i think it is the best FE cast in the series
I can see why people love Claude and I'm currently playing through Golden Wildfire, I haven't finished it yet but it seems to have a lot of potential to give Claude some more development
good ranking. I do have a interesting question thou I know you play three hopes and I know you done atlest one route that being the blue lions so that got me thinking are you gonna a similar raking video of three hopes character i know they are still the same character with perrty much the same motivation there are differences between them even if they are little so it be interesting. also between 3 houses and hopes from what you know witch do you think hase a better story?
Thanks. I'm not gonna do another ranking for this for 3 Hopes because like you said they're mostly the same, these videos took very long to make and it's not worth the work when the rankings will be mostly the same. But yes I have played all 3 routes in 3 Hopes. I think Golden Wildfire and Scarlet Blaze in 3 hopes are better than Verdant Wind and Crimson Flower/Silver Snow. However I still think Azure Moon is my favourite story and I think it's better than Azure Gleam.
@@MaxMonado thank you for answering my question. ps I found something that was rather interesting but if what I'm about to say make sense I need to know if you plan awakening in fe?
@@sueflewelling3657 If you mean the game then no have not played it yet. If you mean the mechanic in 3 Hopes then I don't really plan using it and just used it whenever I saw a lot of enemy commanders
@@MaxMonado ok thanks anyway. I do however have a another question thou and that being the avatar in fire emblem not the characters them selfs but more like the difference of gender personality wise as far I can tell aside from different s rank and different voices there pretty much the same. what do you think?
@@sueflewelling3657 Yeah they are pretty much the same, in terms of combat I do know that male/female Byleth/Shez can get access to different classes but I don’t think their pesonality changes much or at all.
Another really great video! Definitely agree with you on Claude, personally he struck me as extremely charming and fun in the first half of the game, but I kinda feel he runs out of steam by the second half, due to the lack of development and real conflict (you'd think there would for example be some friction between him and his Church allies due to his stance on the Church of Seiros, but this is never really explored). He's still well written, and his status as an eternal outsider makes it easy to understand why he's so committed to his particular vision for Fodlan, but there's definitely some missed potential here.
Crimson Flower for LYFE! Edit: I had to do my best Lorenz Hellman Glouster laugh because he didn't, and I only just put Marianne in the Trickster class so she can use Blutgang and her heals because I never remember to train her in swords.
I think I will include her, but I don't know when I'm gonna make that video yet. If you didn't know I'm gonna take a break from Fire emblem videos for some time
I can’t back you up on some of your picks, but my list is pretty similar, for the most part. 8; Ignatz (He’s a background character with little charm) 7; Lorenz (Really hard to look past the stuffy demeanor, but pretty good when you do) 6; Raphael (He’s a good man who doesn’t dwell on trauma & a hilarious source of memes) 5; Leonie (I find her a very enjoyable look into Commoner life in Fodlan, but that B support definitely could’ve been better timed, like immediately happens once you have the c support before chapter 10) 4; Hilda (Surprisingly interesting character with awesome quotes, and endearing supports) 3; Marianne (Amazing portrayal of depression, with great supports, especially Ferdinand, and my favorite Paralogue ever) 2; Lysithea (I have very personal reasons, so LSS; Stellar depiction of a person with a disability) 1; Claude (Before Three Hopes, he would’ve been #2, and I’ll leave it at that) I have especially deep & personal reasons for loving my top 2 deer, and I can’t explain it all in a UA-cam comment.
Leonie, Ignatz and Raph at the bottom? Such a unique list xd Imo It's like: Claude > Leonie = Lorenz > Hilda > Raphael > Ignatz > Lysithea > Marianne. I like a sad backstory character when It's done like Sylvain, Claude, Rhea, etc. Aka not being dicks all the time or being unable to talk due to depression, It's just boring and overdone to me. Edit: Well at least we both love Lorenz
Ignatz and Raph are literally in your bottom 4 as well, Raphael is only one spot higher on your list lol With the comments you're leaving I feel like you're just butthurt because I didn't put your favourite characters at number 1 in my videos
@@MaxMonado Chill I was just noting that those 3 being at the bottom is a very common take, that's literally It. Other than marianne and Lysithea (Still like them a little btw), all the GD are top tier to me, so Its really nothing personal
@@pepeelghetto1231 yeah sorry, saw your comments all at once and just interpreted them all negatively. Just felt like you were criticizing me for putting some characters too low, but that's my bad then
@@MaxMonado Don't worry haha, perhaps my tone wasn't the most apropiate either Also at least we both really like Lorenz so we gotta respect eachother xd
nah, lysithea and marianne were done better than sylvain imo. Also sylvain treated women like garbage to make himself feel better. So yeah no. Lysithea>>>> Sylvain. Also acting mean and depressed due to trauma is boring and overdone? Well you don't give too many good reasons there. Of course trauma and a short life would make someone act in a negative way. Isn't chaarcters being and and happy all the time overdone as well? But overall, lysithea and marianne are pretty entertaining while hilda, raphael and leonie are just boring overall.
@@MaxMonado I just don't like them, to get better reasons I will have to think more. Hilda is a little annoying in my opinion. And I don't like the Claude of three hopes at least for what I know, I didn't like him too much in three houses either.
“We’re going to kill the CEO of racism with the power of friendship!” This quote had me dead lmao. Idk how you places Lorenz so high but good video
I've been waiting for this one!
Lorenz at number 2 is a very based choice.
Hope this met your expectations, and nice to hear you're a fellow Lorenz enjoyer as well!
Is it okay that I love hating Lorenz?
1. Marianne
2. Claude
3. Lysithea
4. Hilda
5. Lorenz
6. Leonie
7. Raphael
8. Ignatz
100% agree 🙂
It's really easy to write-off Lorenz as just being an a elitist prick, but he does have a genuinely good core to his character. When many characters will talk about their noble responsibilities and station, it's really just an excuse for them to be able to do whatever they want and ignore the needs of commoners. Lorenz is a true believer whose primary characteristic is his devotion to his duty. Whereas other nobles look at commoners with scorn and refuse to associate with them, for Lorenz it is merely a matter of decorum. He feels he has his place and the commoners have theirs, however he also feels his place is on the front lines defending them. And ultimately, he also softens on his ideas of nobles and commoners interacting, realizing that even if he has his responsibilities, that shouldn't stop them from being friends. He's actually got one of the better written, more nuanced character arcs in the game. But yes, he really needs to find a better barber.
What's next? Church of Seiros characters? Ashen wolves? Both at once?
Also, I can confirm that Raphael gets some great supports in Three hopes! A lot of development for him! (His support with best boy Ashe is a standout for sure). And Lysethia as well, because puppy!
I'm planning to take a little break from Fe videos for a while actually, I elaborate more on this at the end of the video.
I've seen some of the 3 Hopes supports, and I agree Raphael got some great ones with people like Ashe and Petra
13:13 "Claude has some unwritten potential left and I hope three hopes tap into that"
Well, I sure hoped they hadnt...
Honestly I liked what they did with Claude in Three Hopes, it finally showed that he can be a master tactician and that he's willing to resort to underhanded tactics.
Three Hopes had some flaws with its story, but I'm happy they made Claude commit to some questionable actions.
Ignatz gang stand up
Socially awkward art boys rise up!
I can’t believe you used Sylvalum towards the end of the video, it’s one of my favourite songs. Also Marianne best girl :)
I think Xenoblade X's music is pretty underrated as a whole, but Sylvalum is definitely my favourite from the ost, and happy to hear we can agree on best girl
Ignatz being written off is crazy to me. His crazy crit and hit rate practically carried the last few chapter. It’s pretty easy to see early on how you can build him into a mage’s literal worst nightmare, considering his high resistance and crazy high luck stat.
That's what other people say, I don't see it either
Top 7 (Pretty easy list to make as hardly any of the golden deer stand out to me in a good way, aside from maybe 3).
7. Raphael - Too one note and kinda just there.
6. Ignatz - Had a few good supports, Flayn, Marianne and Ingrid specifically, but wasn't a standout unit.
5. Claude - I really just don't care for Claude's personality. He has little to no development as a character, and he's the only one who can survive all 4 routes in Houses because he's the next King of Almyra too. So he can kinda dip out of Fodlan and leave the rest of his men whenever he wants. He kinda gets carried by his battlefield performance.
4. Lorenz - At first, Lorenz was in contention alongside Lindhardt for being my least favorite male student. Luckily he redeemed himself in Hopes, which he probably has his father to thank for that, cause I enjoyed him much better in Hopes (or maybe it's just that Claude was so screwed up in Hopes that I'll take what I can get).
3. Hilda - Already said this, but Hilda's relationship with Caspar makes up for a multitude of sins. Her relationship with Holst and Balthus is also heckin funny in Hopes.
2. Leonie - Enjoy her design. And despite her obsessions for Jeralt, literally most characters in this game have an obsession over someone, and it doesn't really hinder her character at all for me.
1. Marianne - Obvious? Maybe. Do I care? Not really.
I didn't really like Ignatz at first either but his b support with Marianne had me crying and he shot up my list
Ignatz is a good boy, he has his great moments
If you ever make church/ashen wolves video(s) I’ll be here for it! I’ll also be here for some banger Xenoblade 3 videos in the meantime 🔥🫡
i truly think Claude's route is unfairly bashed. Yes, it's feels disconnected from the rest of the story sometimes, but that it. I think his story gets ripped on far more than it deserves and if it it were its own game it would be rated more fairly.
the golden deer are great its what i started with Claude is probably my favorite lord can understand why you would have mixed feelings of him tho and he does have missed potential but i think three hopes made up for that i think all of three houses playable characters are great i think it is the best FE cast in the series
I can see why people love Claude and I'm currently playing through Golden Wildfire, I haven't finished it yet but it seems to have a lot of potential to give Claude some more development
good ranking. I do have a interesting question thou I know you play three hopes and I know you done atlest one route that being the blue lions so that got me thinking are you gonna a similar raking video of three hopes character i know they are still the same character with perrty much the same motivation there are differences between them even if they are little so it be interesting. also between 3 houses and hopes from what you know witch do you think hase a better story?
Thanks. I'm not gonna do another ranking for this for 3 Hopes because like you said they're mostly the same, these videos took very long to make and it's not worth the work when the rankings will be mostly the same.
But yes I have played all 3 routes in 3 Hopes. I think Golden Wildfire and Scarlet Blaze in 3 hopes are better than Verdant Wind and Crimson Flower/Silver Snow. However I still think Azure Moon is my favourite story and I think it's better than Azure Gleam.
@@MaxMonado thank you for answering my question. ps I found something that was rather interesting but if what I'm about to say make sense I need to know if you plan awakening in fe?
@@sueflewelling3657 If you mean the game then no have not played it yet. If you mean the mechanic in 3 Hopes then I don't really plan using it and just used it whenever I saw a lot of enemy commanders
@@MaxMonado ok thanks anyway. I do however have a another question thou and that being the avatar in fire emblem not the characters them selfs but more like the difference of gender personality wise as far I can tell aside from different s rank and different voices there pretty much the same. what do you think?
@@sueflewelling3657 Yeah they are pretty much the same, in terms of combat I do know that male/female Byleth/Shez can get access to different classes but I don’t think their pesonality changes much or at all.
Another really great video! Definitely agree with you on Claude, personally he struck me as extremely charming and fun in the first half of the game, but I kinda feel he runs out of steam by the second half, due to the lack of development and real conflict (you'd think there would for example be some friction between him and his Church allies due to his stance on the Church of Seiros, but this is never really explored). He's still well written, and his status as an eternal outsider makes it easy to understand why he's so committed to his particular vision for Fodlan, but there's definitely some missed potential here.
Thank you! Claude's story in 3 Hopes looks promising at least, hopefully it will tap into that potential a bit more.
Crimson Flower for LYFE!
Edit: I had to do my best Lorenz Hellman Glouster laugh because he didn't, and I only just put Marianne in the Trickster class so she can use Blutgang and her heals because I never remember to train her in swords.
exuse me I have a another question when you do the church are you going to include reha since she is a member and is bascliy a lord.
I think I will include her, but I don't know when I'm gonna make that video yet. If you didn't know I'm gonna take a break from Fire emblem videos for some time
@@MaxMonado ok thank you
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I can’t back you up on some of your picks, but my list is pretty similar, for the most part.
8; Ignatz (He’s a background character with little charm)
7; Lorenz (Really hard to look past the stuffy demeanor, but pretty good when you do)
6; Raphael (He’s a good man who doesn’t dwell on trauma & a hilarious source of memes)
5; Leonie (I find her a very enjoyable look into Commoner life in Fodlan, but that B support definitely could’ve been better timed, like immediately happens once you have the c support before chapter 10)
4; Hilda (Surprisingly interesting character with awesome quotes, and endearing supports)
3; Marianne (Amazing portrayal of depression, with great supports, especially Ferdinand, and my favorite Paralogue ever)
2; Lysithea (I have very personal reasons, so LSS; Stellar depiction of a person with a disability)
1; Claude (Before Three Hopes, he would’ve been #2, and I’ll leave it at that)
I have especially deep & personal reasons for loving my top 2 deer, and I can’t explain it all in a UA-cam comment.
Understandable list, and hearing you say that about Claude makes me excited to play more of Golden Wildfire
I absolutely hated ignatz to but I definitely group to love him after reaching his a support
8) Lorenz
7) Marianne
6) Ignatz
5) Raphael
4) Claude
3) Lione
2) Lysithea
1) Hilda Hilda Hilda
Leonie, Ignatz and Raph at the bottom? Such a unique list xd
Imo It's like: Claude > Leonie = Lorenz > Hilda > Raphael > Ignatz > Lysithea > Marianne.
I like a sad backstory character when It's done like Sylvain, Claude, Rhea, etc. Aka not being dicks all the time or being unable to talk due to depression, It's just boring and overdone to me.
Edit: Well at least we both love Lorenz
Ignatz and Raph are literally in your bottom 4 as well, Raphael is only one spot higher on your list lol
With the comments you're leaving I feel like you're just butthurt because I didn't put your favourite characters at number 1 in my videos
@@MaxMonado Chill I was just noting that those 3 being at the bottom is a very common take, that's literally It.
Other than marianne and Lysithea (Still like them a little btw), all the GD are top tier to me, so Its really nothing personal
@@pepeelghetto1231 yeah sorry, saw your comments all at once and just interpreted them all negatively. Just felt like you were criticizing me for putting some characters too low, but that's my bad then
@@MaxMonado Don't worry haha, perhaps my tone wasn't the most apropiate either
Also at least we both really like Lorenz so we gotta respect eachother xd
nah, lysithea and marianne were done better than sylvain imo. Also sylvain treated women like garbage to make himself feel better. So yeah no. Lysithea>>>> Sylvain. Also acting mean and depressed due to trauma is boring and overdone? Well you don't give too many good reasons there. Of course trauma and a short life would make someone act in a negative way. Isn't chaarcters being and and happy all the time overdone as well? But overall, lysithea and marianne are pretty entertaining while hilda, raphael and leonie are just boring overall.
8.- Hilda.
7.- Claude.
6.- Lysithea.
5.- Raphael.
4.- Leonie.
3.- Ignatz.
2.- Marianne.
1.- Lorenz.
It's only my own list.
By the way, good video.
Damn interesting ranking, any reason Hilda and Claude are at the bottom?
@@MaxMonado I just don't like them, to get better reasons I will have to think more.
Hilda is a little annoying in my opinion. And I don't like the Claude of three hopes at least for what I know, I didn't like him too much in three houses either.