Innocent until proven guilty by the court. Y'all, for those of you who don't seem to understand, it doesn't matter if you know he did it, but under US law you are innocent until proven guilty and are ensured a fair trial. Sheesh. There's no doubt he did it, but unless the dude pleads "guilty", says he did it and is convicted, then the US has a procedure for these things. Just remember if you ever find yourself in front of a judge, no matter if you did the crime or not, you would want and be "innocent until proven guilty". Also, news stations and other outlets have to protect themselves from defamation lawsuits so they must use certain terminology. Some of y'all act like you don't know how this country works.
@@thisistheaccountname Not for the public ----I can call the p.o.s. guilty all day long. I can even say the Feds ought to kill with the death penalty. He's guilty, guilty, guilty. The media sites have to use 'alledged' not the public > it is legal and protected to have an opinion.
:your so-called God will 4 give the shooter since your so-called God is real & that mythical Bible Your so-called God has 4 give him since he SIN & Supposedly we r children of your so-called God So he needs 2 b set free he needs 2 out of jail & b walking as a free man he's not guilty P.s. he did (your so-called) God's work
Make him a working slave! Put that good ol boy to work. Make em be out in Huntsville tx Sun picking strawberries/ breaking up boulders. I want him to have blisters on his soft privileged white hands each day of his miserable existence!
People are being so overdramatic about this. The media is not allowed to definitively say a person is guilty until they have been formally convicted, doesn’t matter if it’s painfully obvious he did it.
Yall really do not understand the justice system. You seem to think that because this case is unforgivably heinous, and that it seems 100% clear that this man is guilty, that he isn't legally given the same right to a fair trial. In fact, if lawyers, police, others were on the news calling him "the gunman" instead of the alleged gunman or the suspected gunman, he could use that to appeal his case. Maybe it wouldn't do any good in this instance because the crimes he committed are tragically devastating, but they must give everyone the assumption of "innocent until proven guilty," which obviously will happen here. He will spend everyday of his life in prison. But as soon as police officers, detectives and news casters start deciding that they can just plainly say "the shooter", "the guilty suspect", it would be chaos. Many of those cases could use that for an appeal and likely would be able to get a whole new trial (or even dropped charges) because of that inherent bias and the fact that they weren't given the rights that they promised to them. Not to mention, as soon as you or someone you care about is falsely arrested, I'm pretty sure you could then understand the importance of everyone getting a fair trial.
Ppl I understand he has a right to a “fair trial”. But let’s not act like this same system that “everyone” deserves a “fair trial” in is not the same system that has SYSTEMATICALLY put down my ppl in this country for 4 centuries. I totally understand the justice system. Because it wasn’t made in my ppls best interest.
@@cringyalienguy9787 oh. But the media is allowed to spout all sorts of lies though, make things up as they go, misrepresent facts, take things out of context and push narratives. But calling some little bitch boy who was on film slaughtering people guilty? Noooo. He’s alleged to have killed people.
He's not suspected, he is the gunman. Rest In Peace to all who lost their lives for no reason at all !! The judge did the right thing by charging all counts to give justice for each family by naming each victim. Prayers go out to them as they all grieve. I feel so sorry for everyone affected! I truly believe this evil POS made the copycat do that horrific crime at the elementary school which still makes me tear up 😞😓
The media has to make their money by parading these attention seekers endlessly. They need to get blamed as well, tragedy for profit just like everything else in this world .
They say that in every case. Quit making sound like they're treating him special. If they beheaded him tomorrow you would say they should've used a different blade.
@@speakmymind9905 The death penalty costs multiple times more than life in prison. Because so many innocent people are convicted they try to minimize that in the case of the ultimate punishment with a lot of safeguards. Still, we know many innocent people have been sentenced to death regardless (and that is not conjecture, many dozens of them have subsequently been found innocent and exonerated since the reinstatement of the death penalty in 1977, others were put to death). I'm not saying that there is any doubt in this guy's case but the system has to work the same regardless and the original post was about cost so it's worth considering that it would cost considerably more to put him to death.
The human justice system is flawed globally. Life for a life falls apart when there are passenger deaths caused by distracted driving that are the drivers fault. I think in cases like this there should be a hurried execution because the gunman wanted everyone to know he did it on purpose. The death penalty should only be used as a last resort to protect others from a killer human.
So if someone commits murder and takes everything from that family and relatives, Death for them should be last resort? If there are stricter punishments for people, at least they will think 2wice before committing crime. Here in this country there are less people advocating for victims right and that's a shame.
@@jasmohem1570 You can kill a murderer but not twice. If he kills ten people from ten different families everyone that wants to kill him back with their bare hands can't. I say execution fits but the damage is not repaired by that just the future threat from a twisted human is removed. Truth is you probably don't wish to kill people so I hope you continue to not have personal reasons to want to. Execution is a part of earth but it's always sad when it has to happen.
Disagree, the justice system isn't about vindication, and that's the way it should be. If you want that kind of mentality go live in a shit hole country and enjoy having your eye gouged out for looking at another man's wife.
Touchy topic, but I feel like mass shooters, rapists, and other severe criminals don’t deserve to live in general, even in jail. Waste of tax dollars. This isn’t a druggy who can turn their life around, this is someone who completely messed up or ended someone’s life and affecting family and friends of the victims.
This guy doesn’t “deserve” to live but that’s not the point, this is a *punishment* - he’s going to spend the next 70 years of his life in prison. That’s wayyyy worse of a punishment than a quick execution imo. He doesn’t *deserve* an easy out - I want him to suffer
i said this in another comment; torture method before prison. torture those who cause heinous crimes like mass shootings and rape to the brink of death; let them heal, rinse and repeat. it'll break their mind more than ever they'll likely want to die; at that point let them live in prison. they'll likely end it all in prison but hey we got them back. but nooo human rights. no once you kill, or take the innocence away from someone and make them vulnerable you shouldn't have any human rights cause you did something very fucking inhumane. and now watch this second comment will get flagged and reported cause someone out there thinks these fucked individuals deserve the same fair trial as anyone else. i say bring back the guillotine for certain criminals but again human rights fucks that up.
I've never seen anyone more finished than this dude. Gives 'condemned' a whole new meaning. You're out, bro. The guy is also going to have to sit there while at least 10 victim impact statements are read, too. One after the other. Realizing what he did, with every word. One count would have got him life but 10 plus another 15? Think about that. You'd have to be re-incarnated 10 times and spend THOSE lives in Prison before you're forgiven on THIS planet, pal. You're history, bro, and here's where your REAL suffering will begin: You're going to turn 25 in Prison and see how wrong and immature you were at 18 and you will STILL... NEVER be forgiven. Even guys who kill their wives sometimes get out after 25/30 years. Not you, though, guy. Hope it was worth it. You ended the lives of 10 nice older people who probably would have given you the shirts off their backs, if you had only asked. It's additionally heartbreaking to know that he was actually in that store one day earlier, planning it, and those people he hated so much? ...didn't even give him a second look, but let him go peacefully about his business. The damage you did. The damage you did to the hearts and minds of good black and good white people working hard to just get along with each other. Why, man, why? Please don't lump this hateful Martian in with the rest of us. Peace.
Because he was paid off by the DoE. One of the guys he killed invented a car that runs on water. Alot of these water car people have died in freak accidents. what better way to mask an assassination than a mass shooting.
In the Newspeak vocabulary, the word crimestop denotes the citizens' self-awareness to immediately rid themselves of unwanted, incorrect thoughts (personal and political), the discovery of which, by the Thinkpol, would lead to detection and arrest, transport to and interrogation at the Miniluv (Ministry of Love). The protagonist, Winston Smith, describes crimestop as a conscious process of self-imposed cognitive dissonance:
I do too but think about it. Depending on whether you believe in the afterlife (hell or heaven). Once you die, you technically cease to exist, there’re no feelings of remorse, being locked up for the rest of his life. He’ll grow old in prison. Prison is not a fun place to be. Not having the freedom he used to have, it’ll surely hit him and he’ll have to live with it for the rest of your life. He’ll probably be in solitary or protected area of the prison cause people like him get killed in prison
@@jason0998 Hell is symbolic in Revelations. God is love & he would never want to burn his children. Besides, you can’t burn a spirit. Everyone doesn’t go to heaven, only ones annointed w/Holy Spirit. Rev14:1,3,20:6, 5:9, Luke 12:32. Those are some of the verses w/those, who will rule w/Christ in the heavens for his 1,000 year reign.. Life is precious & God is the giver of life. My condolences to all the families.
Well it’s not happening to him to bad so sad he’s already locked up so why want more shit to happen to him? Like so what he killed some people? People die everyday and he already did it and got his consequence so he’s good now and forgiven
@@jason0998 Please, he'll have a instagram following, maybe TIKTOK/youtube as well. He can chill and watch tv a lot. He has no remorse and never will. And even if he was hit with guilt at some point, OH whaaaaaa. F him and his guilt. He should not be living as he took the life from many innocents, he ended then, and we should help him on his way, not pay for his vacation.
@@qwertywerty8924 haha troll. who says he will stay alive in prison? Little racist white boys dont have many chances in the big house. His pretty long hair, hes gonna make quite a few people happy in the joint.
I understand we are a civilized society but I’m completely in support of bringing back cruel and unusual punishments for people like this. This heinous crimes where there’s no doubt who the suspect is need to be punished severely
I hate when they say “alleged” when it is clear, along with a written confession, that the person is the perpetrator of the crime. When they report about a thief or a guy who was caught selling drugs, not yet convicted, then seem to forget that the word “alleged” even exists.
They have to say alleged by technicality because it's become national news and by law you're expected to be seen as innocent until proven guilty "in the court of law" so they do not want to give him any legal loophole that suggests otherwise for the chance that he might be seen as not guilty for the pre-assumption of guilt. I know it sounds disingenuine to say "alleged", but it gives more support to the fact that they are doing this by the legal system, and any thing that could suggest they are NOT upholding those obligations and restrictions of What is required to get a conviction could work in this killer's favor buy a loophole which could cause mass hysteria and civil unrest. And I personally understand maybe most don't that they do usually assume guilt too people of color in the media before court verification and that is an arbitrary indicity to the progression as well as the virtue of what we stand by as a nation. So I understand the fact that they are more likely to do that for a criminal who committed such heinous acts for the basic point that he is white but in this specific circumstance it actually will make it easier to convict him. Unfortunately we live in a nation and a world that still has racist biases against black people and our system has very little to protect those minority groups. But we should honestly say alleged more and not just isolated to white psychopaths with racist agendas in order to hide the fact that white supremacy is real and alive within the United States. To further deny that fact is an arbitrary Injustice to the preamble of our Constitution which all politicians and military personnel are sworn to protect!
The written confession isn't all that convincing. It reads nothing like his Discord posts. Maybe he wrote it, but maybe the Discord groomer wrote it. The video is far more convincing, but as far as I know we don't have video leading up to the arrest, so it's remotely possible the guy on the news and the guy who did the shooting aren't the same guy. Presumably, the investigators have that video, but it hasn't made it through a court system, and investigators aren't remotely above bald-faced lies. There's also a difference between layman's terms and technical terms. In layman's terms, we know murders were committed because we saw the video. In technical terms, we don't "know" that, because the court hasn't decided it. And the media uses terms like "alleged", "suspected", or "accused" all the time in minor cases like thieves and drug dealers. It's standard journalism. (Not that there is much journalism left in the world. All the major media outlets these days are about narratives at any cost, not journalism.)
@@gorillamaster101er that’s why I mentioned how they sometimes call the accused “robber” or “thief” without the word “alleged” in front of it. I already know about the liability, but it seems they pick and choose when to say it about different perpetrators of crimes they have yet to be convicted for.
@@GeekOfAllness everything you’ve mentioned are things I already know. Explain why they don’t use the term “alleged” in the instances I’ve mentioned then we’ll be getting somewhere.
@@bonsummers2657 That shank going thru his back the minute his pale ass hits general population. The brothers are gonna eat his kidney with a nice keyantee and some fava beans..
People keep saying “waste of tax dollars” but it’s actually a lot more expensive to have the death penalty as an option. But I do agree we should start using the death penalty more often.
The best justice is turning the lives around for the people who can be. You say something like this until one bad thing happens and your life is thrown off the rails. Then people point their fingers at you and call you the monster.
How did they arrest him while he had a gun, I thought police protocol was to shoot on sight if a criminal is 'firing a weapon at people unlawfully'....👀 How did they get to him and arrested him.?
He wasn't firing his weapon when he encountered police, and when he did, he stuck the rifle muzzle under his chin, then obeyed commands to drop his weapon and remove his armor.
@@charliec.3518 The video went on while he was in the store, it was not taken down within seconds, I watched it thru. About 30 to 40 secs in the store B4 it cut
The worst part about cases like this is that with a life sentence, they basically can spend every day trying to come up with new ways to get their sentence reduced or petition for retrials, basically just wasting more taxpayers' money
:your so-called God will 4 give the shooter since your so-called God is real & that mythical Bible Your so-called God has 4 give him since he SIN & Supposedly we r children of your so-called God So he needs 2 b set free he needs 2 out of jail & b walking as a free man he's not guilty P.s. he did (your so-called) God's work
Your better off in the States, at least the judge dishes out real justice, in the UK this prick will have the support of the human rights dickheads, social outreach weirdos and countless other creeps stating how he must have had a bad upbringing, blame our society, all this support paid for by the greedy solicitors who then claim against the government and the judge will bow down to the pressyre groups and give the arse wipe 10yrs and he'll probably be out in 5yrs for good behaviour. All at massive cost to the taxpayer. And when he gets out he'll probably get chased by another greedy solicitor who will somehow twist the tale and end up getting compensation for the bell end. So i think USA does a better job than UK, plus you also maintain the death sentence. Get shot of the barstards permanent. Let the family whos kid he just wiped out press the switch to the electruc chair.
@Gonzo Motherfuxxer Cool opinion but according to Encyclopedia of Wars, only 6.87% of conflicts in human history have been over religion. Please do not use unsupported claims in an attempt to offend or stir up people simply because their beliefs are not the same as yours.
life without parole, this guy is gonna be housed, fed, and cared for for the rest of his life on the tax payer's dime, what a waste of time, money and resources.
That;s why they call it "for profit prison system" and even more important to vote all these horrid, corrupt politicians out of office!! @022! Please take care!
He's going to be locked in a 7×12 room for 23 hours a day and 1 hour of exercise in another locked room with a cage in it. He'll never be able to communicate with other inmates and will most likely never see another inmate. He'll also never get to feel direct sunlight on his skin for the rest of his pathetic life. He'll end up going insane with no way to end his miserable life. Justice is served.
:your so-called God will 4 give the shooter since your so-called God is real & that mythical Bible Your so-called God has 4 give him since he SIN & Supposedly we r children of your so-called God So he needs 2 b set free he needs 2 out of jail & b walking as a free man he's not guilty P.s. he did (your so-called) God's work
:your so-called God will 4 give the shooter since your so-called God is real & that mythical Bible Your so-called God has 4 give him since he SIN & Supposedly we r children of your so-called God So he needs 2 b set free he needs 2 out of jail & b walking as a free man he's not guilty P.s. he did (your so-called) God's work
@@queenofweaves916 plz don't fall for this fake love shii they kill a racist attack then try to finally put one of them in jail what bout all the other shooters tho they see we don't want nothing to do with them now they want to try to do this fake justice shii they don't love you they need you it's a difference
You would never get a black youth doing something like this yet all these white youth keep doing it this proves who is the aggressor in this world it’s a fact not me being racist
This is the reason why I cannot be against the death penalty. He’s going to jail making new friends get a boyfriend, living rent free and getting free food.🤬
What do u think is better him being killed and his torture is finished quickly. Or him being tortured for the rest of his long pitiful life. Especially in a very fucked up jail.. I’ll take the second option
Christmas parade victims in Wisconsin weren't named and the driver of the"runaway SUV" got a total slap on the wrist for a hate crime. DOUBLE STANDARD AS USUAL
Make him a working slave! Put that good ol boy to work. Make em be out in Huntsville tx Sun picking strawberries/ breaking up boulders. I want him to have blisters on his soft privileged white hands each day of his miserable existence!
Cruel and unusual punishment is illegal and goes against the constitution. I mean they do it anyway they just dont tell the public. He was already talking with federal agents anyway so im sure hes already been tested on or in progress
Just throw all the books at him! He knew what he was doing. These families can’t get their family members back. This was senseless and just evil. Prayers going up for the families 🙏🏾❤️
@@drockit7127 if you blame the media then you need to grow the hell up. The media didn't put a gun in his hand. Why don't you blame Trump and all his supporters for trying to make hate crimes the norm.
This boy recorded himself on live and they keep saying “alleged” . Also AMAZES ME how they say have to prove it was murder in 1st degree with intent . Smh 🤦🏽♂️
This is how free countries MUST operate. A person is innocent until proven guilty. Do you want to give up freedom because the quickest way to do that is to eliminate that concept.
What's to add...The Young Man appears to have absolutely no remorse...And the people who agree with what he did are another evil in our degrading world...
Basically, being convicted of one count of 1st degree murder gets you the same sentence that you'd get if you're convicted of 10 counts. Trying one case of 1st degree murder is a lot cheaper than trying 10.
Because in NY, the prosecution has time limits they have to follow, and charging him with 1 count of first degree murder at arraignment was a way to keep him in jail without bail while they waited on a formal indictment.
:your so-called God will 4 give the shooter since your so-called God is real & that mythical Bible Your so-called God has 4 give him since he SIN & Supposedly we r children of your so-called God So he needs 2 b set free he needs 2 out of jail & b walking as a free man he's not guilty P.s. he did (your so-called) God's work
PoS parents still haven't communicated any regret or remorse for their childs behavior. Same irresponsibility that allows your child to plan to this degree. Paul and Pamela Gendron should also have some books thrown at them.
@@romerjusu3804 So was Rolando Ramos but a human response is to communicate your regret like his Grandfather even like his drug addled Mother. No, these inhumane creatures not only won't acknowledge the loss but his other family tries to provide alibis. Although, your reaction explains a lot more about how you morally justify behavior.
:your so-called God will 4 give the shooter since your so-called God is real & that mythical Bible Your so-called God has 4 give him since he SIN & Supposedly we r children of your so-called God So he needs 2 b set free he needs 2 out of jail & b walking as a free man he's not guilty P.s. he did (your so-called) God's work
:your so-called God will 4 give the shooter since your so-called God is real & that mythical Bible Your so-called God has 4 give him since he SIN & Supposedly we r children of your so-called God So he needs 2 b set free he needs 2 out of jail & b walking as a free man he's not guilty P.s. he did (your so-called) God's work
EXACTLY, AND THE BODY CAM, THAT SHOWED HIS INTENT TO COMMIT MURDER AND RECORD AND WATCH IT LATER!!! SO, WHY IS THEY PUTTING THESE FAMILIES THOUGH THIS ?? UNLESS, THEY IS AWARDING HIM FOR WHOM HE KILLED!!! ALL THE FACTS AND EVIDENCE IS PRESENT AND THEY KNOW IT !!! THIS IS JUST AS SICKING AS TO WHAT HE DONE !!! THEY TREATED HIM AS IF HE ONLY ROBBED THE STORE, HE PLANNED THIS MONTHS AND DAYS BEFORE HE PLAYED IT OUT THEN FOR HIM TO HAVE A BODY CAM ON PUTS ALOT OF THOUGHT OF WHOM IS BEHIND THIS WHOM WEAR BODY CAMS ALSO!! JUSTICE FOR THESE FAMILIES!!!
If my son ever did this, they wouldn't even have to worry about sentencing him. I would take him out with my bare hands. They would have to worry about sentencing me. Cause I would finish him. I could not love a son who harms anyone like taking their lives away for nothing . Just a vile demonic soul.
I doubt you would have a bad child. You have a very strong sense of right from wrong. :) Just raise your children properly. Don't annoy them. Don't spoil them. Treat them with respect. Keep them in a good and serene house with two very good and honest parents. They will turn out fine. ♥️ You'll be a great parent, Belle!
@@heatemwayup4060 rare my ass. This mf wouldn’t do shit to his own son. Mfs out here don’t know how it actually feels to have a son. Mfs out here not talking from experience I bet he don’t even have a kid, so he should pipe down. He’ll get what I mean when he has a kid.
Condolences 💐 is where the healing begins. Just to hear that word, it made a difference in my life as I moved forward. Your comment pretty much covered it. All of us have a story to tell 💐
@@fitzfitzgerald1249 maybe as where the boy will find Jesus while he’s lock up , I know that’s where I was rededicated . I did 3 years sent from my homeland Hawaii to Fort Worth Texas , for me it was the greatest thing for me , but my hearts prayers are with all those who is grieving and maybe just maybe all will find their way in the grace of our lord and savior including that boy
@@puudavis2007 isn't just what you do but what you don't do. Not just what you did but how you did it. Not just what you said but how you said it. Love is so simple yet the simple make it so hard. Love Is full of knowledge yet even the smart don't get it. Love doesn't cost a fortune yet fortunes are spent trying to gain it. Love does demand of you yet you are not willing to sacrifice for it. Those who only seek what love can give and do for them, do nothing for love and others and in such selfish pursuit, in turn rob themselves of love's best gift. Make this year the year you seek to sow love and not just reap it. Be love and not just think it. Do love and not just say it. Talk love and just don't fake it. Seek love and just don't chase it. Embrace it but don't enslave it, share it but don't dare boast in it. Enjoy it but don't abuse it. Free it and watch it come back. Invest in it and watch it pay back. Wash your life in it, light your darkness with it, eat your food with it conduct your business with it and above all else Serve God in it. For whatever love is and is not, it's all of, for and From Him. He is LOVE! " By Steven Gooden
To think that there’s people paid to protect him from angry people lunging at him is absolutely insane. Think about that: this monster is being protected
:your so-called God will 4 give the shooter since your so-called God is real & that mythical Bible Your so-called God has 4 give him since he SIN & Supposedly we r children of your so-called God So he needs 2 b set free he needs 2 out of jail & b walking as a free man he's not guilty P.s. he did (your so-called) God's work
You know there can never be justice for what he did when life without parole sounds like a slap on the wrist and a death sentence looks like an easy way out 😒
@@realonthafield 2-3 minutes of immense physical pain hardly seems to stand up to the lifetime of emptiness and loss the families of the victims will endure. Like the top level comment said there can be no justice here.
Justice comes when this individual isn't breathing. Democrats will keep him breathing for decades on death row, until he's no longer "useful" to their cause.
I don't care if they threw the book or what. Long as he spends the rest of his life in prison. He threw his life away because of the color of people's skin. Talk about ignorant. Let's see how he like being locked up forever.
edwin goodson, he looked like he was about to pass out. When he heard those charges. He will be a jailbird hero. I am glad he didn't get the DP. That was too easy. Let him sit and rot in there.
@@whitediamond5230 I couldn't agree more, to me life in prison especially at his age is far worse then death penalty, that's why so many of these cowards commit suicide (by themselves or cops).
We need to apply the death penalty to obvious crimes like this. It makes sense to avoid death penalty in cases where there’s a question of “What actually happened here?” when they can be wrongly accused. But I don’t want my tax money going to feed this guy when we all know he’s done something unforgivable.
I think death row, along with the actual execution, is actually more expensive than life in prison. If the goal was to make it less burdensome on the taxpayers, we would have to change the laws, so that the offender is excecuted, very quckly after conviction, and by a means that is not costly. Firing squad, the day of conviction? I see nothing wrong with this idea, except for the few people who are wrongly convicted. In the case where it is blatently obvious that the offender is guilty, with 100% certainty, I would say go for it.
@@Inertia888 I love the way you think. But undoubtedly sustainable evidence like this. A Mass shooter should completely lose all rights as a human being. Be put on a torture system create more jobs for people to torture Mass shooters. And then death by firing squad. Point blank period he also should lose the right to council and any appeals. Once again this should be a special punishment for Mass murderers, serial rapists and child molesters. Must need compelling evidence of course to make sure you don't trap anyone innocent in the system
@@nomahfuckah2080 There is no need to execute anybody. You have the closure knowing that this being isn't going to hurt anybody else. You just want to see him dead because you think his atrocities justify another one. At the end of the day, one full life sentence costs a lot less than a single execution. There's nothing "just" about killing anybody, not even terrorists like this, and definitely not innocent people like the ones lost to the hands of this fool.
Half of these nutjobs give themselves the death penalty when they kill themselves, obviously the death penalty isn’t a deterrent. Common sense gun laws should be welcomed by anyone who responsibly owns guns. Are you afraid they’re going to take away your guns because you’re mentally ill or because you’re a criminal?
We need harsher punishment, not saying lethal injection isn’t bad but it’s not enough, we should pay the cartel to take care of people like this for us🤷🏿♂️
Make him a working slave! Put that good ol boy to work. Make em be out in Huntsville tx Sun picking strawberries/ breaking up boulders. I want him to have blisters on his soft privileged white hands each day of his miserable existence!
Ramon: He looks a little young to be concerned about the future (to know the outcome). I agree that he knew it was wrong. The reality of what he's experiencing now I don't believe matches the delusion of his expected public perception of him. Why isn't he eligible for the death penalty is my question?
New York doesn’t have the death penalty. Most of the time these COWARDS pick the state that doesn’t have the death penalty. Also, they usually sit on death row for 20 years. Not like the good old days when they would execute you in a month after conviction.
@@letrice2892 let’s be honest they give life in prison to black drug dealers. They’ve ( the racist court system) given death penalties to to black people for killing 3 people. Cops give death penalties to black kids and adults for raiding homes where the suspects aren’t even there or don’t live there . This scum disgusting piece of filth was in contact with a retired sheriff all while committing his hate attack . think about that fir moment
He most likely would receive “protection” from one or two groups in prison because some dudes from multiple other groups will want a shot at taking him out.
It does depend on what exactly you're accusing them of. At this point, he's only suspected of all the charges in question, because those are legal terms used in a legal context, and he hasn't been convicted yet even if we all know he will be. But yeah, I've seen people call him a "suspected" gunman, even though he clearly was a dude with a gun who was shooting people, and "gunman" is not a legal term. I suppose it's remotely possible he's not the gunman at all, and they framed the wrong guy. But that's such a long shot it's really not worth talking about.
The shooter live streamed his crimes on Twitch. They can use whatever words they want to in the media but this guy is GUILTY and his recorded video is proof. Only a matter of time before justice hits him
Unless it's self defense and I'm protecting myself and my kids there is absolutely no way and reason I'd ever throw my life away for taking a life. And to see so many young people decide to go down that dark and tragic road is heartbreaking. Lord, I pray there will be peace and unity one day.
That’s because he was groomed by a 3 letter agency. His manifesto was perfectly well written and articulated for an 18 year old. His accuracy and how fast he reloaded indicates he was trained by someone or some 3 letter agency. The thing about these “mass shootings” are the information provided by the MSM never add up because these masks shootings are government orchestrated events to completely disarm the US so the government can do as they please with no opposing leverage. Can’t let a good tragedy go to waste.
Let him see how white nationalists are clowning on him, he did this hoping to gain respect from them and they're just clowning on him for watching anime and saying he looks like a re... Take that away from him and he'll feel like he did it for nothing. More than likely though he's not going to serve any time because he's a government agent.
This is where filling your heart with hate gets you. It consumes you and makes you willing to give your own life for nothing. The lives he took are gone forever, and he won't benefit from it in any way.
Can we stop saying suspected gunman? I saw the video, they arrested him on the scene. Theres witnesses. This isnt suspected this is absolute with 180 pages worth of motive. Innocent until proven guilty does not apply here.
Regardless of the evidence against him, he is presumed innocent until proven guilty in a Court of Law. Until then, he is referred to as the accused or suspected.
Under our system laws due process is premised on presumption of innocence. Innocence doesn't have to be proven; the burden is on the state to prove guilt.
When it's a case like this... several innocent lives loss due to a person choosing to do harm. I wonder if the loved ones left behind should choose the sentence. I know that might be in an ideal world, but those families are the ones who'll feel the true loss of their loved ones. I feel like they should have their say and make the sentence.
He’s not a suspected gunman, he is the gunman.
Innocent until proven guilty by the court.
Y'all, for those of you who don't seem to understand, it doesn't matter if you know he did it, but under US law you are innocent until proven guilty and are ensured a fair trial.
Sheesh.
There's no doubt he did it, but unless the dude pleads "guilty", says he did it and is convicted, then the US has a procedure for these things.
Just remember if you ever find yourself in front of a judge, no matter if you did the crime or not, you would want and be "innocent until proven guilty".
Also, news stations and other outlets have to protect themselves from defamation lawsuits so they must use certain terminology.
Some of y'all act like you don't know how this country works.
America judging him for killing blacks? That’s rich under God’s eyes
@@thisistheaccountname Not for the public ----I can call the p.o.s. guilty all day long. I can even say the Feds ought to kill with the death penalty. He's guilty, guilty, guilty.
The media sites have to use 'alledged' not the public > it is legal and protected to have an opinion.
@@thisistheaccountname whatever
@@thisistheaccountname shut up
Why he’s still breathing is beyond me.
SAY IT AGAIN!!!
He's marked. If ever caught unsupervised, he'll get what Jeffrey Dahmer recieved; a beating death.
he surrendered
Well, we all know the answer to that.
:your so-called God will 4 give the shooter
since your so-called God is real & that mythical Bible
Your so-called God has 4 give him since he SIN &
Supposedly we r children of your so-called God
So he needs 2 b set free
he needs 2 out of jail & b walking as a free man
he's not guilty
P.s. he did (your so-called) God's work
Phrases like “accused” and “if convicted” just makes my skin crawl. He literally streamed it and was caught in the act.
Make him a working slave! Put that good ol boy to work. Make em be out in Huntsville tx Sun picking strawberries/ breaking up boulders. I want him to have blisters on his soft privileged white hands each day of his miserable existence!
People are being so overdramatic about this. The media is not allowed to definitively say a person is guilty until they have been formally convicted, doesn’t matter if it’s painfully obvious he did it.
Yall really do not understand the justice system. You seem to think that because this case is unforgivably heinous, and that it seems 100% clear that this man is guilty, that he isn't legally given the same right to a fair trial. In fact, if lawyers, police, others were on the news calling him "the gunman" instead of the alleged gunman or the suspected gunman, he could use that to appeal his case. Maybe it wouldn't do any good in this instance because the crimes he committed are tragically devastating, but they must give everyone the assumption of "innocent until proven guilty," which obviously will happen here. He will spend everyday of his life in prison. But as soon as police officers, detectives and news casters start deciding that they can just plainly say "the shooter", "the guilty suspect", it would be chaos. Many of those cases could use that for an appeal and likely would be able to get a whole new trial (or even dropped charges) because of that inherent bias and the fact that they weren't given the rights that they promised to them. Not to mention, as soon as you or someone you care about is falsely arrested, I'm pretty sure you could then understand the importance of everyone getting a fair trial.
Ppl I understand he has a right to a “fair trial”. But let’s not act like this same system that “everyone” deserves a “fair trial” in is not the same system that has SYSTEMATICALLY put down my ppl in this country for 4 centuries. I totally understand the justice system. Because it wasn’t made in my ppls best interest.
@@cringyalienguy9787 oh. But the media is allowed to spout all sorts of lies though, make things up as they go, misrepresent facts, take things out of context and push narratives.
But calling some little bitch boy who was on film slaughtering people guilty? Noooo. He’s alleged to have killed people.
He's not suspected, he is the gunman. Rest In Peace to all who lost their lives for no reason at all !! The judge did the right thing by charging all counts to give justice for each family by naming each victim. Prayers go out to them as they all grieve. I feel so sorry for everyone affected! I truly believe this evil POS made the copycat do that horrific crime at the elementary school which still makes me tear up 😞😓
They are legally required to say suspected, whether or not they are fully guilty
Suspect or alleged doesn't imply innocent, stop being triggered
She has to say suspected
The media has to make their money by parading these attention seekers endlessly. They need to get blamed as well, tragedy for profit just like everything else in this world .
They say that in every case. Quit making sound like they're treating him special. If they beheaded him tomorrow you would say they should've used a different blade.
I personally think, anyone who commits a mass shooting, deserves to be “taken out” on scene. Stop wasting time/money to house these animals.
Couldn't agree more.
I said the same exact thing the other day.
I agree.
That’s being rude to the animals. They do no such harm. This “being” is an abomination.
Cases like this where it is beyond doubt of guilt bring back public execution.
No quick simple death either, slow and painful.
There is no justice for issues like this. Keeping him in prison is only a waste of tax payers' money.
Bring back the death penalty
He’ll get his karma in prison one way or another
@@speakmymind9905 The death penalty costs multiple times more than life in prison. Because so many innocent people are convicted they try to minimize that in the case of the ultimate punishment with a lot of safeguards. Still, we know many innocent people have been sentenced to death regardless (and that is not conjecture, many dozens of them have subsequently been found innocent and exonerated since the reinstatement of the death penalty in 1977, others were put to death). I'm not saying that there is any doubt in this guy's case but the system has to work the same regardless and the original post was about cost so it's worth considering that it would cost considerably more to put him to death.
Death is the easy way out. Let em rot
Keep someone like that in jail is not good enough, people like that should be send hard labor camp which we need in this country.
American justice system is a joke and that's why people like these get empowered to do such heinous acts. LIFE for a LIFE...PERIOD.
The human justice system is flawed globally. Life for a life falls apart when there are passenger deaths caused by distracted driving that are the drivers fault.
I think in cases like this there should be a hurried execution because the gunman wanted everyone to know he did it on purpose.
The death penalty should only be used as a last resort to protect others from a killer human.
So if someone commits murder and takes everything from that family and relatives, Death for them should be last resort? If there are stricter punishments for people, at least they will think 2wice before committing crime. Here in this country there are less people advocating for victims right and that's a shame.
@@jasmohem1570 You can kill a murderer but not twice. If he kills ten people from ten different families everyone that wants to kill him back with their bare hands can't. I say execution fits but the damage is not repaired by that just the future threat from a twisted human is removed.
Truth is you probably don't wish to kill people so I hope you continue to not have personal reasons to want to. Execution is a part of earth but it's always sad when it has to happen.
Disagree, the justice system isn't about vindication, and that's the way it should be. If you want that kind of mentality go live in a shit hole country and enjoy having your eye gouged out for looking at another man's wife.
Wrong of , but true , you on point.
Touchy topic, but I feel like mass shooters, rapists, and other severe criminals don’t deserve to live in general, even in jail. Waste of tax dollars. This isn’t a druggy who can turn their life around, this is someone who completely messed up or ended someone’s life and affecting family and friends of the victims.
I agree with this unpopular opinion. Applying to only cases where there is no question on who did it like this one.
well New York fought really hard to get the death penalty removed so it's impossible to reinstate it now
Not really, death would be a mercy to them, in prison, their fate is a lot *LOT* worse.
Especially for Rapists and Pedos.
This guy doesn’t “deserve” to live but that’s not the point, this is a *punishment* - he’s going to spend the next 70 years of his life in prison. That’s wayyyy worse of a punishment than a quick execution imo. He doesn’t *deserve* an easy out - I want him to suffer
i said this in another comment; torture method before prison. torture those who cause heinous crimes like mass shootings and rape to the brink of death; let them heal, rinse and repeat. it'll break their mind more than ever they'll likely want to die; at that point let them live in prison. they'll likely end it all in prison but hey we got them back. but nooo human rights. no once you kill, or take the innocence away from someone and make them vulnerable you shouldn't have any human rights cause you did something very fucking inhumane. and now watch this second comment will get flagged and reported cause someone out there thinks these fucked individuals deserve the same fair trial as anyone else. i say bring back the guillotine for certain criminals but again human rights fucks that up.
I've never seen anyone more finished than this dude. Gives 'condemned' a whole new meaning. You're out, bro. The guy is also going to have to sit there while at least 10 victim impact statements are read, too. One after the other. Realizing what he did, with every word. One count would have got him life but 10 plus another 15? Think about that. You'd have to be re-incarnated 10 times and spend THOSE lives in Prison before you're forgiven on THIS planet, pal. You're history, bro, and here's where your REAL suffering will begin: You're going to turn 25 in Prison and see how wrong and immature you were at 18 and you will STILL... NEVER be forgiven. Even guys who kill their wives sometimes get out after 25/30 years. Not you, though, guy. Hope it was worth it. You ended the lives of 10 nice older people who probably would have given you the shirts off their backs, if you had only asked. It's additionally heartbreaking to know that he was actually in that store one day earlier, planning it, and those people he hated so much? ...didn't even give him a second look, but let him go peacefully about his business. The damage you did. The damage you did to the hearts and minds of good black and good white people working hard to just get along with each other. Why, man, why? Please don't lump this hateful Martian in with the rest of us. Peace.
Hes a POS and im not talking President of the United States
Agree fully, nicely written.
he wasn't far gone he chose to do this he was mentally aware of what he was doing
Factz! 💯
@@bagamnan9170 I mean: finished, cooked, history, done, etc. peace
He didn't just kill those innocent people, he was recording himself doing it, why he is still alive?
Spending life behind bars and he's only 18. He still has a long way to live and he literally wasted his life because of hate.
I can’t think of a punishment equal to his crime. Literally everything seems like a slap on the wrist for what he did.
Torture is needed in cases like this
I hope he becomes somebody's wife in jail
Wrist*
he has hell to look forward to..
No modern punishment at least….he deserves something very slow and very painful
I just don’t get what drives someone to be a piece of shit and throw their life away because of it. What a waste of space.
Being evil and godless
I agree
Look at how pathetic he is rotting in jail glad he gets to spend everyday in a box.
White replacement theory is why
Because he was paid off by the DoE. One of the guys he killed invented a car that runs on water. Alot of these water car people have died in freak accidents. what better way to mask an assassination than a mass shooting.
Crazy thing is I expected to hear a death row sentence...Can't believe the judicial system these days🙄
Factz , being a attorney I relize being African is a abomination to country we created , 10 bodies of beauty no death sentence, you do the math smh .
New York state doesn't have a death penalty
Fact you guys keep this guy alive and throw his name and face all over the media and internet is beyond me.
The fact that he looks so calm and serene about the whole situation like nothing didn’t happen is terrifying. HATE is a disease.
Wonder if they are sedating him with drugs??
He is probably loving the attention
Hate isn't a disease hate is a choice.
In the Newspeak vocabulary, the word crimestop denotes the citizens' self-awareness to immediately rid themselves of unwanted, incorrect thoughts (personal and political), the discovery of which, by the Thinkpol, would lead to detection and arrest, transport to and interrogation at the Miniluv (Ministry of Love). The protagonist, Winston Smith, describes crimestop as a conscious process of self-imposed cognitive dissonance:
No it's not. It's an emotion. A good one too😈
People like him are why I still believe in the death penalty. Anything less is considered lenient
I do too but think about it. Depending on whether you believe in the afterlife (hell or heaven). Once you die, you technically cease to exist, there’re no feelings of remorse, being locked up for the rest of his life. He’ll grow old in prison. Prison is not a fun place to be. Not having the freedom he used to have, it’ll surely hit him and he’ll have to live with it for the rest of your life. He’ll probably be in solitary or protected area of the prison cause people like him get killed in prison
@@jason0998 Hell is symbolic in Revelations. God is love & he would never want to burn his children. Besides, you can’t burn a spirit. Everyone doesn’t go to heaven, only ones annointed w/Holy Spirit. Rev14:1,3,20:6, 5:9, Luke 12:32. Those are some of the verses w/those, who will rule w/Christ in the heavens for his 1,000 year reign.. Life is precious & God is the giver of life. My condolences to all the families.
Well it’s not happening to him to bad so sad he’s already locked up so why want more shit to happen to him? Like so what he killed some people? People die everyday and he already did it and got his consequence so he’s good now and forgiven
@@jason0998 Please, he'll have a instagram following, maybe TIKTOK/youtube as well. He can chill and watch tv a lot. He has no remorse and never will. And even if he was hit with guilt at some point, OH whaaaaaa. F him and his guilt. He should not be living as he took the life from many innocents, he ended then, and we should help him on his way, not pay for his vacation.
@@qwertywerty8924 haha troll. who says he will stay alive in prison? Little racist white boys dont have many chances in the big house. His pretty long hair, hes gonna make quite a few people happy in the joint.
I understand we are a civilized society but I’m completely in support of bringing back cruel and unusual punishments for people like this. This heinous crimes where there’s no doubt who the suspect is need to be punished severely
Praying for justice to go through this time
I hate when they say “alleged” when it is clear, along with a written confession, that the person is the perpetrator of the crime. When they report about a thief or a guy who was caught selling drugs, not yet convicted, then seem to forget that the word “alleged” even exists.
They have to say alleged by technicality because it's become national news and by law you're expected to be seen as innocent until proven guilty "in the court of law" so they do not want to give him any legal loophole that suggests otherwise for the chance that he might be seen as not guilty for the pre-assumption of guilt. I know it sounds disingenuine to say "alleged", but it gives more support to the fact that they are doing this by the legal system, and any thing that could suggest they are NOT upholding those obligations and restrictions of What is required to get a conviction could work in this killer's favor buy a loophole which could cause mass hysteria and civil unrest. And I personally understand maybe most don't that they do usually assume guilt too people of color in the media before court verification and that is an arbitrary indicity to the progression as well as the virtue of what we stand by as a nation. So I understand the fact that they are more likely to do that for a criminal who committed such heinous acts for the basic point that he is white but in this specific circumstance it actually will make it easier to convict him. Unfortunately we live in a nation and a world that still has racist biases against black people and our system has very little to protect those minority groups. But we should honestly say alleged more and not just isolated to white psychopaths with racist agendas in order to hide the fact that white supremacy is real and alive within the United States. To further deny that fact is an arbitrary Injustice to the preamble of our Constitution which all politicians and military personnel are sworn to protect!
The written confession isn't all that convincing. It reads nothing like his Discord posts. Maybe he wrote it, but maybe the Discord groomer wrote it. The video is far more convincing, but as far as I know we don't have video leading up to the arrest, so it's remotely possible the guy on the news and the guy who did the shooting aren't the same guy.
Presumably, the investigators have that video, but it hasn't made it through a court system, and investigators aren't remotely above bald-faced lies.
There's also a difference between layman's terms and technical terms. In layman's terms, we know murders were committed because we saw the video. In technical terms, we don't "know" that, because the court hasn't decided it.
And the media uses terms like "alleged", "suspected", or "accused" all the time in minor cases like thieves and drug dealers. It's standard journalism. (Not that there is much journalism left in the world. All the major media outlets these days are about narratives at any cost, not journalism.)
Because the judicial and criminal systems are a JOKE lol
@@gorillamaster101er that’s why I mentioned how they sometimes call the accused “robber” or “thief” without the word “alleged” in front of it. I already know about the liability, but it seems they pick and choose when to say it about different perpetrators of crimes they have yet to be convicted for.
@@GeekOfAllness everything you’ve mentioned are things I already know. Explain why they don’t use the term “alleged” in the instances I’ve mentioned then we’ll be getting somewhere.
Even when we say justice has been served, we cannot bring back the lives that were lost during the shooting. He deserves what is coming to him.
Tell us what he deserves. Come on.
@@bonsummers2657 he deserves u to be in there with him
@@bonsummers2657 That shank going thru his back the minute his pale ass hits general population. The brothers are gonna eat his kidney with a nice keyantee and some fava beans..
@neal cassady Agreed.
@@bonsummers2657 public execution by hanging
People keep saying “waste of tax dollars” but it’s actually a lot more expensive to have the death penalty as an option. But I do agree we should start using the death penalty more often.
How much is the death penalty and keeping a person alive for 25+ years?
Justice can never be served because _one_ man took the life of _multiple_ people. Also, he can still breathe, unlike the people he killed. 🫁
Facts
But good news. This news station got thier cool catchy lines in to drive the ratings which is fortunate in a mass shooting situation. Whew
Why would you want him to have the peace of dying? This way, he has to sit out his life in prison.
The best justice is turning the lives around for the people who can be. You say something like this until one bad thing happens and your life is thrown off the rails. Then people point their fingers at you and call you the monster.
they need a to start doing inhumane torture. for like 10 years then death.
How did they arrest him while he had a gun, I thought police protocol was to shoot on sight if a criminal is 'firing a weapon at people unlawfully'....👀 How did they get to him and arrested him.?
He wasn't firing his weapon when he encountered police, and when he did, he stuck the rifle muzzle under his chin, then obeyed commands to drop his weapon and remove his armor.
You Caucasians have excuses for everything
Just knowing he did this all live on twitch is just crazy Rest In Peace to all the people that lost their life.
Yeah the video was insane
@@charliec.3518 right it’s just very disturbing and sad poor innocent people
@@Juniors_hotwheels yeah man, im glad they took it down as quickly as they did though, literally seconds after he started shooting
@@charliec.3518 The video went on while he was in the store, it was not taken down within seconds, I watched it thru. About 30 to 40 secs in the store B4 it cut
@@NiggaTalkReal yeah.... 30 or 40 SECONDS of shooting.... i... really?
The worst part about cases like this is that with a life sentence, they basically can spend every day trying to come up with new ways to get their sentence reduced or petition for retrials, basically just wasting more taxpayers' money
He's going to be killed in prison.
What's the alternative? Ensuring a fair and just court is not a waste of money.
I don't care what they did everyone deserves a second chance to be rehabilitated
The deathx penalty was invented for crimes like this.... this justice system is a bunch of bullshxt,..
@@_Atzin
The Gas Chamber, with in 30 days of the murderx
They didnt just throw the book at him, they threw the whole library at him.
Give him life plus 60, make him read the book and he'll never be able to digest that utterly turgid tome - War & Peace
And he’s not even charged federally yet. That’s coming.
They need to go scoop up his raggedy Mother and Father!
:your so-called God will 4 give the shooter
since your so-called God is real & that mythical Bible
Your so-called God has 4 give him since he SIN &
Supposedly we r children of your so-called God
So he needs 2 b set free
he needs 2 out of jail & b walking as a free man
he's not guilty
P.s. he did (your so-called) God's work
Hopefully he still goes to a state prison tho
Can't get any worst. Waste of time
@@alextogo8367 the feds can give him the death penalty
Life in prison without the possibility of parole is the least that this person deserves.
Other inmates will handle him. A lot of blacks and Latinos will handle their business. And God will have His vengeance
@@HuyLe-vo4pg God is the ultimate mass murderer, read your bible.
@@willl4219 then he will have one heck of a time in solitary
@@HuyLe-vo4pg Hell yeah Huy.Let the guards just turn there backs for and hour.Justice will be served.
Your better off in the States, at least the judge dishes out real justice, in the UK this prick will have the support of the human rights dickheads, social outreach weirdos and countless other creeps stating how he must have had a bad upbringing, blame our society, all this support paid for by the greedy solicitors who then claim against the government and the judge will bow down to the pressyre groups and give the arse wipe 10yrs and he'll probably be out in 5yrs for good behaviour. All at massive cost to the taxpayer. And when he gets out he'll probably get chased by another greedy solicitor who will somehow twist the tale and end up getting compensation for the bell end.
So i think USA does a better job than UK, plus you also maintain the death sentence. Get shot of the barstards permanent. Let the family whos kid he just wiped out press the switch to the electruc chair.
her stuttering at the end was just something else lol
The devil's influence on humanity grows tenfold every day. This guy is no exception
@Gonzo Motherfuxxer Cool opinion but according to Encyclopedia of Wars, only 6.87% of conflicts in human history have been over religion. Please do not use unsupported claims in an attempt to offend or stir up people simply because their beliefs are not the same as yours.
life without parole, this guy is gonna be housed, fed, and cared for for the rest of his life on the tax payer's dime, what a waste of time, money and resources.
That;s why they call it "for profit prison system" and even more important to vote all these horrid, corrupt politicians out of office!! @022! Please take care!
He's going to be locked in a 7×12 room for 23 hours a day and 1 hour of exercise in another locked room with a cage in it. He'll never be able to communicate with other inmates and will most likely never see another inmate. He'll also never get to feel direct sunlight on his skin for the rest of his pathetic life. He'll end up going insane with no way to end his miserable life. Justice is served.
he's gonna end up being gay lol
He should be charged under a federal court then he could face death
Agreed. What a shame that he didn’t get blown away at that market. Would’ve saved is lots of money and resources.
He didn’t just develop this amount of hate it was taught in his home
It's called grooming. It's starts in kindergarten..
Or online.
:your so-called God will 4 give the shooter
since your so-called God is real & that mythical Bible
Your so-called God has 4 give him since he SIN &
Supposedly we r children of your so-called God
So he needs 2 b set free
he needs 2 out of jail & b walking as a free man
he's not guilty
P.s. he did (your so-called) God's work
The system does it
Or on Netflix
Saw the uncensored video kept me up for a night
10 counts of first degree murder as a hate crime should warrant the most stringent of punishments.
Good. Done right. Each and every individual victim deserves justice.
:your so-called God will 4 give the shooter
since your so-called God is real & that mythical Bible
Your so-called God has 4 give him since he SIN &
Supposedly we r children of your so-called God
So he needs 2 b set free
he needs 2 out of jail & b walking as a free man
he's not guilty
P.s. he did (your so-called) God's work
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@@queenofweaves916 AF
Oh you know why he still alive
@@queenofweaves916 plz don't fall for this fake love shii they kill a racist attack then try to finally put one of them in jail what bout all the other shooters tho they see we don't want nothing to do with them now they want to try to do this fake justice shii they don't love you they need you it's a difference
He's an evil monster!! My heart goes out to all the victims and their families.
How come the gunman in Texas was killed by the police but the gunman in Buffalo wasn't.
@@WilliamBrown-vl2hl
They waited outside knowing most mass shooter's are white men. Then went in and seen he was Mexican and killed him.
@@WilliamBrown-vl2hl Different sites, different scenes.
You would never get a black youth doing something like this yet all these white youth keep doing it this proves who is the aggressor in this world it’s a fact not me being racist
Lier tonight you will sleep like a baby
"Terrorism motivated by hate."
Does that mean that terrorism motivated by love is better?
Of course it does, silly boy.
This is the reason why I cannot be against the death penalty. He’s going to jail making new friends get a boyfriend, living rent free and getting free food.🤬
This is good but for some reason
I don’t think this demon even gives a damn what he is being charged with!!
He will,wait til he get behind bar's
@@cinderella23queen37 the brothers will have a field day let’s hope he isn’t gifted solitary
@@mitchconnor9748 he is probably. He's going to the same prison as the Boston bomber if convicted.
Bet he will when get inside!
@@mitchconnor9748 You know that solitary are going to be the FIRST thing that they holler.
Life in prison is not justice and never will, they granted him free food/housing/health and get a family visit
HAVE YOU NOT HEARD OR LEARNED WHAT GOES ON IN PRISONS BESIDES THE AMENITIES YOU MENTIONED? HE'LL BE A TENDER MORSEL TO THE GREEDY ONES!!
U must not know what keeping a dog in a cage for the rest of it's life will do to that dog.
Sausage party
Naaa he going to Colorado
What do u think is better him being killed and his torture is finished quickly. Or him being tortured for the rest of his long pitiful life. Especially in a very fucked up jail.. I’ll take the second option
Anything less than the death penalty is unacceptable
Christmas parade victims in Wisconsin weren't named and the driver of the"runaway SUV" got a total slap on the wrist for a hate crime. DOUBLE STANDARD AS USUAL
A BOOK WON'T KILL HIM ,A PUBLIC FIRING SQUAD, IS BETTER .
I agree💯
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that would happen if this occurred in Texas, or really any red state, unfortunately this happened in NY where democrats will go easy on him.
@@tombeacher9667 I hope you're not implying that hell on earth is considered easy. ADX Supermax is the last place you want to be, besides Guantanamo.
I know they got rid of the death penalty in New York back in like 1963 but for this guy they should make an exception and give him the chair
I'd have a suggestion if it weren't for partiality in c.ship.
I didn't know they got rid of the death penalty. I was wondering how he escaped the death penalty..?
@@lisaanderson3514 me, too. Thanks @I play Games. I was just about to google that.
Federal
@Visions and DREAMS racist pos. Try Hebrew or at least Middle Eastern, which isn't black.
When did these shootings in Buffalo happen?
That police with the iron man tat goes hard
People like this should automatically become test subjects for further scientific/pharmaceutical studies
Make him a working slave! Put that good ol boy to work. Make em be out in Huntsville tx Sun picking strawberries/ breaking up boulders. I want him to have blisters on his soft privileged white hands each day of his miserable existence!
I like how you think btw:))
I like this solution ! Give back to the community with your life.
Cruel and unusual punishment is illegal and goes against the constitution. I mean they do it anyway they just dont tell the public. He was already talking with federal agents anyway so im sure hes already been tested on or in progress
Nah just u
Just throw all the books at him! He knew what he was doing. These families can’t get their family members back. This was senseless and just evil. Prayers going up for the families 🙏🏾❤️
He should be sentenced to no food and drink, and bounded for no movement to keep stationary.
AMEN! 🙏🙏💔
@@love_wins_2218 I blame the media they drove him crazy with all the hate with calling him a racist and white supremacy to much social media
@@drockit7127 if you blame the media then you need to grow the hell up. The media didn't put a gun in his hand. Why don't you blame Trump and all his supporters for trying to make hate crimes the norm.
They want money not their family members back
Should’ve had black cops next to him with a black judge and a black jury.
His jail outfit should be all black. They should make him listen to black artist in his cell. With a Tv with only black shows.
Someone should spray paint black civil rights leaders in his cell. Someone should tell him a new black history fact every day.
They should make him listen to “I’m black and I’m proud blasting loud in his cell 24/7”
Cancel profiting off murder frenzy. Cancel the media. Hold individuals accountable
This boy recorded himself on live and they keep saying “alleged” . Also AMAZES ME how they say have to prove it was murder in 1st degree with intent . Smh 🤦🏽♂️
This is how free countries MUST operate. A person is innocent until proven guilty. Do you want to give up freedom because the quickest way to do that is to eliminate that concept.
@@alwa6954 LMAO! He was on camera doing it !! He even left a letter. Full of hate and reasons why he was doing it . No need to PROVE ANYTHING.
@@alwa6954 and now that he is guilty he should be taken out back and put down. Case closed, next.
Sounds about non blyc
@@alwa6954 “free country” my ass
They should let the victims families have street justice
prison justice will be worst.
Yeah been beat up to death by the victims relative's
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Black guys in jail will welcome him in .... Lol
Oh yeah violence with violence because we want this to continue forever instead of being the better person for once
What's to add...The Young Man appears to have absolutely no remorse...And the people who agree with what he did are another evil in our degrading world...
Those judges and attorneys work together and know each other and agree with what he did.
Why would he have only gotten 1 count of first degree murder if he killed 10 people? Why was that ever on the table
Basically, being convicted of one count of 1st degree murder gets you the same sentence that you'd get if you're convicted of 10 counts. Trying one case of 1st degree murder is a lot cheaper than trying 10.
Because in NY, the prosecution has time limits they have to follow, and charging him with 1 count of first degree murder at arraignment was a way to keep him in jail without bail while they waited on a formal indictment.
@@collinhennessy6558 Actually, all states have charging deadlines...NY isn't special. Also, he's charged with 10 counts of 1st degree murder, not one.
@@franklinterrell9392 At his initial arraignment he was charged with 1
:your so-called God will 4 give the shooter
since your so-called God is real & that mythical Bible
Your so-called God has 4 give him since he SIN &
Supposedly we r children of your so-called God
So he needs 2 b set free
he needs 2 out of jail & b walking as a free man
he's not guilty
P.s. he did (your so-called) God's work
PoS parents still haven't communicated any regret or remorse for their childs behavior. Same irresponsibility that allows your child to plan to this degree. Paul and Pamela Gendron should also have some books thrown at them.
He's 18 so he's of legal age. Unfortunately the parents aren't responsible.
@@romerjusu3804 So was Rolando Ramos but a human response is to communicate your regret like his Grandfather even like his drug addled Mother. No, these inhumane creatures not only won't acknowledge the loss but his other family tries to provide alibis.
Although, your reaction explains a lot more about how you morally justify behavior.
:your so-called God will 4 give the shooter
since your so-called God is real & that mythical Bible
Your so-called God has 4 give him since he SIN &
Supposedly we r children of your so-called God
So he needs 2 b set free
he needs 2 out of jail & b walking as a free man
he's not guilty
P.s. he did (your so-called) God's work
@@Bahiyyudin calm down dr phil...it will be alright...
The guy is an adult, isn’t he?
After the first few pages, there was no hope!
“SUSPECTED?” HE DID IT!!
It's a legal term. Innocent until proven guilty.
This shouldn’t take to long. All the evidence is There!!!!
True
He’s white. That’s how it goes. 🤢
:your so-called God will 4 give the shooter
since your so-called God is real & that mythical Bible
Your so-called God has 4 give him since he SIN &
Supposedly we r children of your so-called God
So he needs 2 b set free
he needs 2 out of jail & b walking as a free man
he's not guilty
P.s. he did (your so-called) God's work
EXACTLY, AND THE BODY CAM, THAT SHOWED HIS INTENT TO COMMIT MURDER AND RECORD AND WATCH IT LATER!!! SO, WHY IS THEY PUTTING THESE FAMILIES THOUGH THIS ?? UNLESS, THEY IS AWARDING HIM FOR WHOM HE KILLED!!! ALL THE FACTS AND EVIDENCE IS PRESENT AND THEY KNOW IT !!! THIS IS JUST AS SICKING AS TO WHAT HE DONE !!! THEY TREATED HIM AS IF HE ONLY ROBBED THE STORE, HE PLANNED THIS MONTHS AND DAYS BEFORE HE PLAYED IT OUT THEN FOR HIM TO HAVE A BODY CAM ON PUTS ALOT OF THOUGHT OF WHOM IS BEHIND THIS WHOM WEAR BODY CAMS ALSO!! JUSTICE FOR THESE FAMILIES!!!
ok arm chair detective...
If my son ever did this, they wouldn't even have to worry about sentencing him. I would take him out with my bare hands. They would have to worry about sentencing me. Cause I would finish him. I could not love a son who harms anyone like taking their lives away for nothing . Just a vile demonic soul.
Said correctly!!
I doubt you would have a bad child. You have a very strong sense of right from wrong. :)
Just raise your children properly. Don't annoy them. Don't spoil them. Treat them with respect. Keep them in a good and serene house with two very good and honest parents. They will turn out fine. ♥️
You'll be a great parent, Belle!
This shit corny. You are not going to do anything lol
You are a rare person and God loves you thank you
@@heatemwayup4060 rare my ass. This mf wouldn’t do shit to his own son. Mfs out here don’t know how it actually feels to have a son. Mfs out here not talking from experience I bet he don’t even have a kid, so he should pipe down. He’ll get what I mean when he has a kid.
Prayers 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Why the hell does he have to come back to Court?
Are the justice systems so complicated?
Sending my prayers and hearts sorrow with families of this horrible act , much love ❤️ to each of you
Condolences 💐 is where the healing begins. Just to hear that word, it made a difference in my life as I moved forward. Your comment pretty much covered it. All of us have a story to tell 💐
@@fitzfitzgerald1249 maybe as where the boy will find Jesus while he’s lock up , I know that’s where I was rededicated . I did 3 years sent from my homeland Hawaii to Fort Worth Texas , for me it was the greatest thing for me , but my hearts prayers are with all those who is grieving and maybe just maybe all will find their way in the grace of our lord and savior including that boy
@@puudavis2007 isn't just what you do but what you don't do. Not just what you did but how you did it. Not just what you said but how you said it. Love is so simple yet the simple make it so hard. Love Is full of knowledge yet even the smart don't get it. Love doesn't cost a fortune yet fortunes are spent trying to gain it. Love does demand of you yet you are not willing to sacrifice for it. Those who only seek what love can give and do for them, do nothing for love and others and in such selfish pursuit, in turn rob themselves of love's best gift. Make this year the year you seek to sow love and not just reap it. Be love and not just think it. Do love and not just say it. Talk love and just don't fake it. Seek love and just don't chase it. Embrace it but don't enslave it, share it but don't dare boast in it. Enjoy it but don't abuse it. Free it and watch it come back. Invest in it and watch it pay back. Wash your life in it, light your darkness with it, eat your food with it conduct your business with it and above all else Serve God in it. For whatever love is and is not, it's all of, for and From Him. He is LOVE! "
By Steven Gooden
@@puudavis2007 let's hope
@@fitzfitzgerald1249 mahalo nunui 🎁
To think that there’s people paid to protect him from angry people lunging at him is absolutely insane. Think about that: this monster is being protected
Yeah it’s disgusting!!!
That what makes us better than him you dunce
@Alberto Where have you been…we ARE eating each other
@Alberto he’s not human tho.. he’s a monster !! Any one who kills innocent people like that is a MONSTER
Same as politicians..
He still got a reward. He took all those lives away but still have HIS. Criminals are treated better than the average person
Justice will be served
POS prison for life,no chance of parole. Useless to society.
Society’s dead weight for sure
:your so-called God will 4 give the shooter
since your so-called God is real & that mythical Bible
Your so-called God has 4 give him since he SIN &
Supposedly we r children of your so-called God
So he needs 2 b set free
he needs 2 out of jail & b walking as a free man
he's not guilty
P.s. he did (your so-called) God's work
Public hanging.
Why should the tax payers pay to keep him fed and housed for the next 70 years?
He may do something honorable in the future. He has a lot to learn and if he does so, he may have a lot to give.
@@randal_gibbons BS
You know there can never be justice for what he did when life without parole sounds like a slap on the wrist and a death sentence looks like an easy way out 😒
Great point!!!
should be tortured
Drawn and quartered maybe?
Throw him in a pit with the victims' families and let them decide his fate. Now THAT'S justice.
@@realonthafield 2-3 minutes of immense physical pain hardly seems to stand up to the lifetime of emptiness and loss the families of the victims will endure. Like the top level comment said there can be no justice here.
I can crack a smile when I think of what will happen to the little tough guy in prison.
A straight CRT moment
There's not really any justice to be had when one individual takes so many lives. Very disheartening to see.
the death penalty.
Maybe break his ankles and leave him out in the Sahara desert
God gives justice
Justice comes when this individual isn't breathing. Democrats will keep him breathing for decades on death row, until he's no longer "useful" to their cause.
@Vigilant GodSpeed It's still one person snuffing out many lives no matter how the guilty is put to death.
I don't care if they threw the book or what. Long as he spends the rest of his life in prison. He threw his life away because of the color of people's skin. Talk about ignorant. Let's see how he like being locked up forever.
Exactly something that no one has any control over is the color of their skin,may he rot in there.
edwin goodson, he looked like he was about to pass out. When he heard those charges. He will be a jailbird hero. I am glad he didn't get the DP. That was too easy. Let him sit and rot in there.
@@whitediamond5230 I couldn't agree more, to me life in prison especially at his age is far worse then death penalty, that's why so many of these cowards commit suicide (by themselves or cops).
@@laurendamos6651 I agree with you.👍
@@whitediamond5230 he won’t last long in prison. The brothers will be after him like fire. He will regret this.
1:48 she got mad at herself for messing her words up😂
This kid wasn't motivated by hate.
He was motivated, trained, and paid for by the U.S. government.
Please go outside
We need to apply the death penalty to obvious crimes like this. It makes sense to avoid death penalty in cases where there’s a question of “What actually happened here?” when they can be wrongly accused. But I don’t want my tax money going to feed this guy when we all know he’s done something unforgivable.
I think death row, along with the actual execution, is actually more expensive than life in prison. If the goal was to make it less burdensome on the taxpayers, we would have to change the laws, so that the offender is excecuted, very quckly after conviction, and by a means that is not costly. Firing squad, the day of conviction?
I see nothing wrong with this idea, except for the few people who are wrongly convicted.
In the case where it is blatently obvious that the offender is guilty, with 100% certainty, I would say go for it.
Petition to bring back public hanging!
@@Inertia888 I love the way you think. But undoubtedly sustainable evidence like this. A Mass shooter should completely lose all rights as a human being. Be put on a torture system create more jobs for people to torture Mass shooters. And then death by firing squad. Point blank period he also should lose the right to council and any appeals. Once again this should be a special punishment for Mass murderers, serial rapists and child molesters. Must need compelling evidence of course to make sure you don't trap anyone innocent in the system
@@Inertia888 Does price(to execute )really matter when lives have been taken? Property damaged? Medical bills roll in?
@@nomahfuckah2080 There is no need to execute anybody. You have the closure knowing that this being isn't going to hurt anybody else. You just want to see him dead because you think his atrocities justify another one. At the end of the day, one full life sentence costs a lot less than a single execution. There's nothing "just" about killing anybody, not even terrorists like this, and definitely not innocent people like the ones lost to the hands of this fool.
Useless charges. He's not getting out. Instead, bring the death penalty and you'll see less of this. Gun laws won't work.
Half of these nutjobs give themselves the death penalty when they kill themselves, obviously the death penalty isn’t a deterrent. Common sense gun laws should be welcomed by anyone who responsibly owns guns. Are you afraid they’re going to take away your guns because you’re mentally ill or because you’re a criminal?
We need both lol. The laws help a lot.
We need harsher punishment, not saying lethal injection isn’t bad but it’s not enough, we should pay the cartel to take care of people like this for us🤷🏿♂️
Fr so many states took it away so why is anyone who's crazy going to care going for life for going on a killing spree 😑
Screw the death penalty, people like this should be tortured
Bless all the family’s who lost loved ones the “their” sick agenda . I believe we all have one way or another .
Sick twisted society we live in, And it seems to be getting worse.
People need to understand, he knew what he was doing. He knew what the outcome was gunna be. He expected this.
Make him a working slave! Put that good ol boy to work. Make em be out in Huntsville tx Sun picking strawberries/ breaking up boulders. I want him to have blisters on his soft privileged white hands each day of his miserable existence!
Who doesnt understand this? Thank you captain obvious.
Ramon: He looks a little young to be concerned about the future (to know the outcome). I agree that he knew it was wrong. The reality of what he's experiencing now I don't believe matches the delusion of his expected public perception of him. Why isn't he eligible for the death penalty is my question?
Just sad! Cause he know what he was doing! Am so tried of people wanting to play crazy! Just wrong
And the gutless wonder is still alive
Life without parole aint good enough. Death penalty is the only punishment to fit this crime.
I agree with u on that and it's crazy that when given a death penalty theyre still able to live for yrs before being executed smh...
New York doesn’t have the death penalty. Most of the time these COWARDS pick the state that doesn’t have the death penalty. Also, they usually sit on death row for 20 years. Not like the good old days when they would execute you in a month after conviction.
@@letrice2892 let’s be honest they give life in prison to black drug dealers. They’ve ( the racist court system) given death penalties to
to black people for killing 3 people. Cops give death penalties to black kids and adults for raiding homes where the suspects aren’t even there or don’t live there . This scum disgusting piece of filth was in contact with a retired sheriff all while committing his hate attack .
think about that fir moment
That's an easy way out. Let him get physically and sexually abused in prison.
Naw, the death penalty is the easy way out. Let him serve his time and hopefully he'll be tortured
Is this the guy who live streamed on twitch?
He most likely would receive “protection” from one or two groups in prison because some dudes from multiple other groups will want a shot at taking him out.
Some Gruops Will Protect Him Yall Must Not Ever Been In Jail
@@williamdburks9851 that’s what i said lol
We catch people in the act and still use the term “suspect”. Ridiculous!
Oh, that darn pesky Constitution.
hes white sir
Or “ALLEGED”
It does depend on what exactly you're accusing them of. At this point, he's only suspected of all the charges in question, because those are legal terms used in a legal context, and he hasn't been convicted yet even if we all know he will be.
But yeah, I've seen people call him a "suspected" gunman, even though he clearly was a dude with a gun who was shooting people, and "gunman" is not a legal term.
I suppose it's remotely possible he's not the gunman at all, and they framed the wrong guy. But that's such a long shot it's really not worth talking about.
The shooter live streamed his crimes on Twitch. They can use whatever words they want to in the media but this guy is GUILTY and his recorded video is proof. Only a matter of time before justice hits him
Please don’t let him go to federal prison. Send him to NY State Prison when the booty bandits can have their way with him.
I hear you loud and clear!!!!!!
Agreed 👍🏼
No. He might enjoy it.
Booty bandits? You mean Homosexuals.
federal he'll most likely get smashed by his own ppl. they like them young
lol that news reporter was struggling
I mean let's bring back public beheadings of these criminals. Seems like a good way to show the consequences of your actions
IT WAS, Raclally Motivated.
He's happy, NOW he see HOW it feels to KILL a BLACK person. They NEEDS to hang him up by his Lil Vienna.
You're right!
@@horribleprogram Wait didn’t those gang members who murdered Junior Guzman with a machete in 2018 get the Death Penalty?
He did kill two white people, too 🤷♂️
Hello how are you doing, can we get to know ourselves privately
Unless it's self defense and I'm protecting myself and my kids there is absolutely no way and reason I'd ever throw my life away for taking a life. And to see so many young people decide to go down that dark and tragic road is heartbreaking. Lord, I pray there will be peace and unity one day.
That’s because he was groomed by a 3 letter agency. His manifesto was perfectly well written and articulated for an 18 year old. His accuracy and how fast he reloaded indicates he was trained by someone or some 3 letter agency. The thing about these “mass shootings” are the information provided by the MSM never add up because these masks shootings are government orchestrated events to completely disarm the US so the government can do as they please with no opposing leverage. Can’t let a good tragedy go to waste.
YES!❤❤ BECAUSE YOU ARE A LOVING HUMAN BEING!! WITH RESPECT FOR PEOPLE!!❤
Your people for decades never want peace. They worship power.
this guy was sent out on a mission lots of these young people out there white privilege the replacement thing a lot of BS
@Scott Bauerman your mom
He should get the death penalty
0:34 that cops's Iron Man tattoo is fire
someone like this who commits these atrocities has already given up on life. so im not sure what punishment could ever be real justice.
Exactly 💯
Death row 🙄
Let him see how white nationalists are clowning on him, he did this hoping to gain respect from them and they're just clowning on him for watching anime and saying he looks like a re...
Take that away from him and he'll feel like he did it for nothing.
More than likely though he's not going to serve any time because he's a government agent.
The punishment is letting him live
I bet some of the black prison gangs will love to meet him... Give him a nice welcome...
He should have some Black officers holding him!!
he needs to be locked up in an all black cell
I'm sure that the black gangs in prison will sort him out!
@@dawnatkinson7704 he'll be black by the end of the week not actually but hope you know what I mean(bruises)
Your comments has no value. Don’t stop taking your meds it will kick in soon.
@@VICTOR-pi4iq i know it just feels good to say that after hes getting locked up
This case will soon disappear then u will never hear about it again. Only a select few will know what really becomes of this devastating situation.
Thankfully NY got rid of the Death Penalty… 😒
He’s sentenced no differently than a husband who murdered his wife.
This is where filling your heart with hate gets you. It consumes you and makes you willing to give your own life for nothing. The lives he took are gone forever, and he won't benefit from it in any way.
Well said. Hate eats your soul.
Hate !? The recent perfect one word answer !?
Hate !? The recent perfect one word answer !?
Why not call it "gun hate" that way 2 buzz words can be used. 2 buzz words works twice as good, right !?
He’s on the news, he’s definitely being taken care of by the racist gangs in prison, he’s gotten everything he wanted
Can we stop saying suspected gunman? I saw the video, they arrested him on the scene. Theres witnesses. This isnt suspected this is absolute with 180 pages worth of motive. Innocent until proven guilty does not apply here.
I always wounder wgat is wrong with this system to use such wrong terms
Regardless of the evidence against him, he is presumed innocent until proven guilty in a Court of Law. Until then, he is referred to as the accused or suspected.
Under our system laws due process is premised on presumption of innocence.
Innocence doesn't have to be proven; the burden is on the state to prove guilt.
@@hassanashwas6719 It's called RULE OF LAW. If ever YOU are charged with a crime you'll appreciate it.
@@jnagarya519 how convenient. It is still wrong that getting cought red handed and two years in a circus court and its is still aledged
Get the owner of this news outlet fired. No more showing the face of mass shooters.
Fired.
When it's a case like this... several innocent lives loss due to a person choosing to do harm. I wonder if the loved ones left behind should choose the sentence. I know that might be in an ideal world, but those families are the ones who'll feel the true loss of their loved ones. I feel like they should have their say and make the sentence.
Dismemberment by 4 horses