Fire Blanket USA EV Fire Blanket Demonstration with Fire Chief of Training Joe Elam in Oklahoma.

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  • Опубліковано 30 сер 2023
  • Visit www.fireblanketusa.com to learn more. Listen as Fire Chief of Training Joe Elam narrates and EV Fire Blanket training that was held by the OSU Fire Services and Training on August 25th, 2023. Chief Joe Elam narrates the entire training from start to finish, including the importance of centering the blanket, who needs the blanket, and why it is important to not just let an EV fire burn.
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  • @forthrightnight
    @forthrightnight 10 місяців тому +272

    A line manufactured down the center of the blanket would assist the firefighters in getting the blanket properly placed quicker, while keeping the firefighters at maximum distance from the flames. The blanket can be placed on either side of center to account for wind. The firefighters would discuss strategy before deployment.

    • @FireCloakUSA
      @FireCloakUSA  10 місяців тому +111

      This was one of the most beneficial things we learned from doing this demonstration. One of the fire fighters doing the training suggested it, and are working toward making that happen. They had a couple other really great suggestions that we are looking to implement as well. Thanks for your feedback! We what to do whatever we can to make it easiest on those having to deploy the blankets!!!

    • @marwerno
      @marwerno 10 місяців тому +39

      @@FireCloakUSA Integrate water hoses into the blanket (all around the sides), which you can fill with water for weight. Keeping sure it will not been blown away and make it more airtight.

    • @ThatGrizzlyGuy
      @ThatGrizzlyGuy 10 місяців тому +7

      @@marwernowhy not just carry a few weights with it or a a hose you can fill off the truck and be reusable. Much cheaper than to manufacture in it.

    • @camus83489
      @camus83489 10 місяців тому +9

      yeah and having the edges weighted would be even more amazing. perhaps a hook up for the hose too?

    • @camus83489
      @camus83489 10 місяців тому +4

      that would be amazing - like have the edges be able to be filled with water@@marwerno

  • @johnrickard8512
    @johnrickard8512 10 місяців тому +59

    A+ for new firefighting technology that we desperately needed

    • @FireCloakUSA
      @FireCloakUSA  10 місяців тому +1

      Thank you!

    • @williamsmit619
      @williamsmit619 10 місяців тому

      why is it desperately needed ?

    • @johnrickard8512
      @johnrickard8512 10 місяців тому +6

      @@williamsmit619 because in case you weren't aware Lithium batteries burn like hellfire when ignited.

    • @pan6593
      @pan6593 10 місяців тому

      @@williamsmit619research thermal runaway

    • @NithinJune
      @NithinJune 7 місяців тому +1

      @@williamsmit619electric vehicles are the future which means electric vehicle fires are too

  • @joetripp123
    @joetripp123 10 місяців тому +75

    Love the product and I feel all fire departments should have one. 0:20 the Tesla Model 3 wasn't released till 2017 so that's a Tesla Model S. The S's have older 18650 batteries that can thermal runaway quite easily. Later Teslas have 2170 cells - they can also burn but have fire suppression measures built into the pack to prevent (or greatly reduce) thermal runaway events.

    • @jackylsmith8138
      @jackylsmith8138 10 місяців тому +1

      They still burn up. One just did.

    • @jhvorlicky
      @jhvorlicky 10 місяців тому +6

      "fire suppression methods"
      What nonsense. More lies from Elon.

    • @joetripp123
      @joetripp123 10 місяців тому

      @@jhvorlicky yes, the glue between the cells is a fire suppression. There is also measures between the modules to prevent heat from spreading. Panasonic built those batteries. Feel free to look it up. This didn’t come from Elon, it’s public available data from Tesla.

    • @johnd9357
      @johnd9357 10 місяців тому

      Literally any lithium battery can have thermal runaway. It’s just in the nature of the design.

    • @licencetoswill
      @licencetoswill 10 місяців тому +7

      @@johnd9357 no, only lithium ion ones have the potential for thermal runaway, new LiFePO4 batteries are less prone to this issue due to their stable chemical structure. They are also incombustible, able to withstand harsh conditions, and less likely to release flammable gases or catch fire in the event of a hazardous event.

  • @ericmarcelo8976
    @ericmarcelo8976 10 місяців тому +30

    It probably makes sense to approach the fire from upwind so that the smoke won't affect the vision and breathing of the persons deploying the blanket. Keeping the blanket between you and the fire will also block the heat. Not everyone who will deploy these things will be firemen.

    • @Mrbobinge
      @Mrbobinge 10 місяців тому +1

      Thinking ahead, might they become EV mandatory like seat belts and other stuff. Helmets and respirators anybody?

    • @williamsmit619
      @williamsmit619 10 місяців тому

      good theory but impractical...should and "when" these fires occur the biggest problem is going to be toxic smoke inhalation, even those fire fighters with the hazmat suits are at risk , and most won't be covered up as they were for his "demo" , the blanket demo just show how dumb and dangerous and EVs' are, I wouldn't want to be on a road or near an EV fire, it is more lethal and quicker acting than radiation from nuclear fall out..

    • @dghtr79_36
      @dghtr79_36 10 місяців тому +3

      @@Mrbobinge there are people that have a drivers license but can't put the spare wheel on, and you expect them to act rationally, get the blanket out of the boot (most likely storage location), put it on while the thing smoking and maybe even have visible flames coming off of it? it just ain't going to happen, sadly

    • @Mrbobinge
      @Mrbobinge 10 місяців тому

      @@dghtr79_36 Following similar logic it means that no one ever carried a spare wheel 'cos some, couldn't be expected to act rationally. But if the city Mayor makes fire blankets mandatory.....?

    • @dghtr79_36
      @dghtr79_36 10 місяців тому +1

      @@Mrbobinge faulty logic, that driver may stop some other person on the road and ask for assistance with the wheel, but lets be realistic, noone, who will stop to assist a burning vehicle, will dig into the burning vehicles boot for the blanket, and at least for foreseeable future, electrics will remain a minority, so for this to work everyone will have to carry a blanket like that, and I'll guess they aren't exactly 0.99$ a piece
      so - fix the original problem - the battery, don't invent expensive bandaids
      there is another issue with these blankets - breathing in smoke, firefighters here used full face masks for a reason, because the smoke is trapped below the blanket, and as you're pulling it over, you're directly in the line of escaping smoke - I personally wouldn't even attempt this without full mask and bottle, and you expect drivers or passengers to do that, might be an option if it just lightly smoking, then you might have time to put it on, and it would be one man effort most of the time
      so, IMHO, not a good idea to make everyone carry these

  • @adammundell8253
    @adammundell8253 10 місяців тому +24

    I would imagine you can use this blanket to help protect exposures from standard structure fires too.

    • @rochester3
      @rochester3 10 місяців тому

      if they hand this blanket to cover your house

  • @tims8603
    @tims8603 10 місяців тому +16

    This is great! It keeps the fire away from other cars, people or structures that may get damaged. It also makes it easier for the responders to dowse it with water and uses less water. I would suggest having 3 or 4 firefighters to get the blanket on, one on each corner.

    • @FireCloakUSA
      @FireCloakUSA  10 місяців тому

      Great suggestion!!!

    • @jamesdeclan7538
      @jamesdeclan7538 10 місяців тому +2

      Keep in mind EV fires take over 40,000 gallons to extinguish, and can reignite multiple times and sometimes have to be submerged for days until they are safe. A normal car fire may only take 1000 gallons. (NFPA)

  • @tinfoilmoose
    @tinfoilmoose 10 місяців тому +7

    so put a HUGE red X across the cloth to mark the center at all times for the user.
    drag straps off both ends at corners and middle.
    cinch cable around the circumference to pull it tight around the base so you dont come close to tuck it in.
    cable runs down to the corner straps with releases so once pulled into place it can be immediately tightened from a safe working distance.
    you’re welcome - opensource R&D

    • @FireCloakUSA
      @FireCloakUSA  10 місяців тому +3

      Thank you!!! All great points and we have passed them to our team. We are working on a center reflective stripe to go down the middle of the blanket to make centering easy even at night. Appreciate your suggestions!!!

    • @equarg
      @equarg 10 місяців тому +1

      @@FireCloakUSAgood to see you are looking into recommendations!

  • @sking3646
    @sking3646 10 місяців тому +9

    Suggestion: If getting the Blanket to lay on center of the car is critical, then how about marking the center of the Blanket with a Visible Red Line to help the Firefighters 🚒

  • @LionheartLivin
    @LionheartLivin 10 місяців тому +3

    Thank you for working on and creating this tech!!!;)

  • @jamesbell8861
    @jamesbell8861 10 місяців тому +15

    It's great that this will work on all cars. L-ion fires are particularly vexing but I think this a great innovation.

    • @dbendele
      @dbendele 10 місяців тому +1

      Is it dangerous to approach a gas car like that? Aren’t they prone to explode?

    • @astropioneer3296
      @astropioneer3296 10 місяців тому

      For real.

    • @jamesbell8861
      @jamesbell8861 10 місяців тому

      @@dbendele ... I would think it is dangerous either way. But I would also say that it is even more important to starve the fire of Oxygen ??? The ABC fire extinguishers do the same thing by displacing Oxygen ... i would think a proper fire blanket would KEEP the OXYGEN from getting back and reigniting the wreck. I would think there would be a way to get the blanket over and dowsing the the wreck with Dry Ice or Nitrogen ???

  • @d0ugparker
    @d0ugparker 10 місяців тому +4

    Spray paint a small dot or a small "X" at its center to help the firefighters know how to move to adjust its position in centering it as they're pulling it over the vehicle. DP Henderson, NV

  • @BenefitOfTheDoubtInquiry
    @BenefitOfTheDoubtInquiry 10 місяців тому +3

    That blanket should have a water fill channel around the edges to weigh it down.

  • @chris-adams-tas
    @chris-adams-tas 10 місяців тому +2

    Bravo Fire Cloak.
    Thanks for the demonstration.
    Kudos to Ginger for providing worthy insight into the process and the product.

  • @macbuff81
    @macbuff81 10 місяців тому +3

    Great idea. Simple, but yet very effective

  • @offgridliving4128
    @offgridliving4128 10 місяців тому +8

    R/C industry has has a similar product for years. But they have a bag that you store and place the batteries in during charge and discharge cycles.

  • @user-jq2rf4nf3o
    @user-jq2rf4nf3o 11 місяців тому +4

    Great tool ! Other means are not up to the task - Bravo! Especially in under ground garages!

  • @shrimpinpat
    @shrimpinpat 10 місяців тому +2

    sent to my uncle who is assistant chief and my brothers buddy who is a fire chief.

    • @FireCloakUSA
      @FireCloakUSA  10 місяців тому +1

      @shrimpinpat Thank you! We really appreciate you sharing the video!!! 😊

  • @shou635
    @shou635 10 місяців тому +11

    These should be standard issue for all vehicle fires.

  • @bermudaguy5003
    @bermudaguy5003 10 місяців тому +8

    This is an amazing brilliant product that is a Blessing to many! Thank you to all of you involved! 👍 👍

  • @richyzig
    @richyzig 10 місяців тому +4

    The battery on this Model S (!) didn't seem to have caught fire. Little jet-like explosions are typical of battery pack fires. There was nothing like that here and most of the fire was on top.

  • @whosonfirst1309
    @whosonfirst1309 10 місяців тому +1

    Brilliant product. Love the suggestion of the line down the middle, but still a brilliant product.

  • @RakibHossain-pt6cm
    @RakibHossain-pt6cm 9 місяців тому

    Nice !

  • @123456wasp
    @123456wasp 10 місяців тому +2

    Great idea! 😎👍

  • @jgrenwod
    @jgrenwod 10 місяців тому +2

    Are these available as storage covers for lawn equipment like the big battery mowers. You could team up with DEWALT, put their colors and logo on the cover. Great garage storage safety device for when the mower cooks off. Also could be a great car cover for people who have to park their cars in their garage.

  • @davidcarroll8735
    @davidcarroll8735 10 місяців тому +1

    Good luck! I hope it proves to be a great tool in the field.

  • @Top12Boardsport
    @Top12Boardsport 10 місяців тому +3

    Great product

  • @user-bd5nh5eb4b
    @user-bd5nh5eb4b 9 місяців тому

    I see good potential here in that it is greatly reducing the pollutants being emitted ❤.

  • @KoRntech
    @KoRntech 10 місяців тому +4

    Couple critiques on the presentation. A clock in the corner would be helpful to establish time from ignition, time when the runaway began, time from blanket application and a side by side of the thermal with temperature readings pointing out the temperature peak and a line graph showing the change from application of the blanket to what it is when they remove it to finish the job. Please dial the volume down a few on the dramatic music it seems to be competing with your audio. Other than that a good demonstration when this will occur with EVs, now what about a semi a diesel semi hauling multiple Teslas and one goes?

    • @FireCloakUSA
      @FireCloakUSA  10 місяців тому

      Thanks for the feedback! All great comments!!! Love the clock especially. We originally planned to do this live so that it would be in real-time, but we had issues with the heat that day and some of the equipment failed. Definitely ideas we will use in the future!!!

  • @Michael-1337
    @Michael-1337 Місяць тому +1

    There are multiple videos of fire blankets causing an explosion as gasses build up underneath them. There is also worries that wrapping an extinguished electric car in one of these and later on another one of its battery packs begins to leak causing an explosion because of the gas build up.

  • @glendavis3183
    @glendavis3183 10 місяців тому +3

    This seems like a great idea!

  • @lostinwi
    @lostinwi 10 місяців тому +1

    Very cool product anything to help the departments

  • @bgd73
    @bgd73 10 місяців тому +1

    cool to see. I had wondered of fire blankets ..real fire proof, for welding on automobiles/trucks. I finally found one, and thought of electric vehicle fires. The tech does exist. This is the first I have seen it to fitght a fire... I only have one to prevent them.

  • @beabetteryou2022
    @beabetteryou2022 10 місяців тому +1

    Awesome

  • @Fabulousprofound168
    @Fabulousprofound168 10 місяців тому +7

    We had a Tesla in my area that had a battery fire after a major collision. It was like a horizontal flamethrower coming out on all sides from under the car and was nothing like this. No one could get near it and they had to let it burn. Would this blanket have worked?

    • @FireCloakUSA
      @FireCloakUSA  10 місяців тому +3

      Yes, this is what it was designed for...to contain Thermal Runaway and then cool down the vehicle.

  • @greggreg2263
    @greggreg2263 10 місяців тому +1

    These should be standard equipment in all vehicles, and they should be a little bigger❤

  • @BarthiArgento
    @BarthiArgento 10 місяців тому

    What a nice idea! Greets from Germany

  • @Mrbobinge
    @Mrbobinge 10 місяців тому +1

    Think shop-assistants. They wrap the goods and tuck the ends. Fire blanket edge drag-tucked round under wheels, on the wind side, would help stabilise it.
    Excess blanket on lee side could be manipulated to form pockets of heavy drench water.

  • @andyrbush
    @andyrbush 10 місяців тому

    Impressive

  • @The.Phobicist
    @The.Phobicist 10 місяців тому +6

    They need to use the blanket, to smother the flames, and then use liquid nitrogen to super cool the batteries to end the threat, that tech is still being refined atm.

    • @0ooTheMAXXoo0
      @0ooTheMAXXoo0 10 місяців тому +2

      Yes, the battery fire does not need oxygen. It needs to be cooled down to stop.

    • @deadfoxxy
      @deadfoxxy 10 місяців тому

      Cryotanks must vent and it would need to be replaced weekly at high cost.

  • @theseventhgeneration6910
    @theseventhgeneration6910 10 місяців тому +1

    Needs a big orange line down the middle so that they can see where the center is located.
    Get to work. 😉
    Government subsidiaries would be a quick way to boost your growth.
    This is a winner, through and through.

    • @FireCloakUSA
      @FireCloakUSA  10 місяців тому

      Thank you!!! We are working on adjusting that with a reflective strip right down the center! We are also planning to work with fire departments to have grants written in order to get them the funding they need for EV fire suppression :)

  • @youmakeitreal
    @youmakeitreal 10 місяців тому +1

    A drawstring at the perimeter to keep it in place? Great to see this innovation

    • @FireCloakUSA
      @FireCloakUSA  10 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for the suggestion! That is a good idea. We will pass it along to the team!!!

  • @Tagraff
    @Tagraff 10 місяців тому +1

    May need a clip-on weight for four corner (or six to include sides) -- in case if it's windy or annoyance to keep the blanket in place.

  • @truetech4158
    @truetech4158 10 місяців тому

    This is very helpful, and because fires never really produce afterlives.

  • @ronreyes9910
    @ronreyes9910 10 місяців тому +2

    In the Navy when a plane catches fire they just shove it over the side because you can't put out a burning alkaloid metal as it self oxidizes. They use alkaloid metal for underwater welding if that tells you anything. The lithium iron batteries are better but they still burn. Another fun task for the firemen is that if it's on an asphalt road the tar in the asphalt lights off.

  • @rslaughterbeck
    @rslaughterbeck 10 місяців тому +3

    Great product. These should be required at all DC Fast Charging stations. The federal NEVI plan requires a minimum of four ports per site. The only thing worse then 1 EV on fire is 4(and possible the battery bank, if one is used at the charging site).

    • @TheGreenGrower618
      @TheGreenGrower618 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@erty7012and gasoline powered ones aren't?

  • @twiz148
    @twiz148 10 місяців тому

    Google is paying attention...so much so its scary. I bought a fire blanket on Amazon yesterday...today this was at my top of UA-cam suggestion list....yeesh...

  • @mbrown1519
    @mbrown1519 10 місяців тому

    What I see to improve this is put a line for the center of the blanket in both directions like a big x then you're not guessing at where the center of the blanket is

    • @FireCloakUSA
      @FireCloakUSA  10 місяців тому

      Thanks! We are working on adding a reflective center stripe to make it much easier to locate the center! Appreciate your feedback!!!

  • @5150miky
    @5150miky 10 місяців тому +2

    Center should be mark

  • @98f5
    @98f5 10 місяців тому

    I love how theyre talking about how important it is to be centered yet the damn thing is as off center as possible

  • @danltiger
    @danltiger 11 місяців тому +15

    Very cool demo. I'm interested to see how this technique develops.

    • @FireCloakUSA
      @FireCloakUSA  11 місяців тому

      Thanks!

    • @Jo3W3st
      @Jo3W3st 10 місяців тому +2

      Omg I'm a boomer and this production is horrible! It's worse than a late night infomercial

  • @3dFirefly
    @3dFirefly 10 місяців тому +1

    Lithium battery fire is self fueled and does not need oxygen to burn, I don't think covering with a fire blanket will put it out or control it. R/C hobbyist uses fire boxes/pouches to help contain the fire from spreading, but it does not prevent or slow it down.

  • @thismanhasnoname3843
    @thismanhasnoname3843 10 місяців тому +5

    Needs to be wider. Those guys almost fudged up when they placed it

  • @Dash323MJ
    @Dash323MJ 10 місяців тому +5

    "It's imperative that you get these blankets centered."
    OR, hear me out, make a SLIGHTLY bigger blanket. LOL😂

    • @FireCloakUSA
      @FireCloakUSA  10 місяців тому +4

      Haha! We actually have some bigger blankets for trucks. The bigger we make them, the more they weigh though. We are working on a solution to make the centering easier from the start though.

    • @corycramer3695
      @corycramer3695 10 місяців тому +2

      How about putting a center line down the middle of the blanket so each of the fire fighter's can see from their angle without having to say I don't have enough on my side.

  • @mrlickie
    @mrlickie 10 місяців тому

    Nice electric vehicle body bag!

  • @starburst23
    @starburst23 9 місяців тому

    The worst part of burning out on a roadway is the replacement of the road. The whole section of asphalt or concrete usually needs to be replaced. This can save tens of thousands for DOTs if those breakdown trucks carry them also.

  • @connomar55
    @connomar55 10 місяців тому +4

    Might have saved a car carrier had all the EV's on board been covered with these as a matter of policy.

    • @OhSoddit
      @OhSoddit 10 місяців тому

      Then some softcock would whinge about their windscreen or paintwork getting a "scratch".
      Best answer is BAN EV's from ferries.

  • @kenfischerjr5219
    @kenfischerjr5219 10 місяців тому +2

    Drawstrings around the perimeter of the cloth would better secure it.

  • @joshausterlitz3798
    @joshausterlitz3798 10 місяців тому +2

    Guess when i have to buy an EV, i just need to get one of these and wrap it up every night. Boy the future looks bright, well when it catches on fire that is.

    • @ItsBinhRepaired
      @ItsBinhRepaired 10 місяців тому

      Do you wrap all your electronics? Don't be dumb... lol more iphones have burst into flames than EVs.

    • @0ooTheMAXXoo0
      @0ooTheMAXXoo0 10 місяців тому

      EVs are 6x less likely to catch fire than a regular car, 10x less likely to catch fire than a hybrid. So far, only some LG batteries in Chevy Bolts have had multiple problems. The news attacks EVs as much as they can. They report on a fire and then never follow up after the investigation shows the actual cause. For Tesla, all fires have had good causes where a combustion vehicle would have been more likely to burn... That ship fire? all the EVs were fine. Other cars, other stuff burned on that ship but all the EVs were fine... Literally will be sold... Propaganda against EVs for many years and pushed by social media companies as well...

    • @jhvorlicky
      @jhvorlicky 10 місяців тому

      Those statistics just use absolute numbers of fires: they fail to take into account that far fewer cars are electric. When you count for that, BEVs (and particularly Teslas) randomly catch fire much much more. The stats you parrot so unthinkingly also do not take into account the age of the vehicles

    • @joshausterlitz3798
      @joshausterlitz3798 10 місяців тому

      ​@@jhvorlicky I know i'm no expert by any means, but even if it's true, if they only have 8% market share (as of 2022), 6x still don't even come close to making since. I know my moms friend had a Kia EV that caught fire last year and a friend of a friends 2020 Tesla that was gonna cost 16K to fix (not sure what the issue was) so they traded back for a normal car. Just the intensity of the heat alone, IDK, just doesn't add up over all, imma stick with my 89 accord, best first car ever, and like you said *account for older cars* that even makes it more out of place. I know some day they will take over, but i'll wait till they get all the kinks out first, no way i'd ever buy this stuff now or anytime soon. Charge time, infrastructure, cost of maintenance, firs risk, from what i know in the real world to what they say on TV just isn't adding up right now. Just the hype to please the greenies, but the greenies don't care about you. When they get it figured all out, i'll take a look, till then my 89 330K honda will keep driving on. Wonder how many EVs will make it 330K like my car Hmmmmmmmmm.

    • @joshausterlitz3798
      @joshausterlitz3798 10 місяців тому

      @@jhvorlicky Also, in the past like 10 years, i don't know anyone's (friends, friends of friends, family) normal cars that has caught fire. I've seen a few semi's on the interstate on fire before, but no cars around the city i live in.

  • @bradpirochta9293
    @bradpirochta9293 10 місяців тому

    Some weights sewn around the perimeter of the blanket would work wonders.

  • @jkohutiak
    @jkohutiak 10 місяців тому

    Great stuff!!

  • @retiredk9copper726
    @retiredk9copper726 10 місяців тому +2

    Looks like it does a great job. I might have missed it but can the cover be used more than once? Either way if only once still better than using 4 tankers and an engine to almost put it out

    • @FireCloakUSA
      @FireCloakUSA  10 місяців тому +1

      Thanks! We suggest a single use due to the toxins covering the blanket. After use, send it with the towing company to wrap during transport, and then to the salvage yard to keep it covered for 30 days.

  • @trevinom69
    @trevinom69 10 місяців тому +2

    So, you could technically get burned if you are in a hurry/are not wearing protective equipment. Why not employ some kind of extension/stick gizmo that can grab the blanket from a distance to help put it over the vehicle and help with pushing it under the car rather than your arms and legs. You could put magnets on the ends and make it a metal stick or something. Just an idea.

    • @FireCloakUSA
      @FireCloakUSA  10 місяців тому +4

      Good suggestion! Actually one of the fireman mentioned adding some places where they could use their tools and hook the blanket and pull it back rather than using their hands. We are looking into adding these additional features. The magnetic idea is good too. That is something we haven't heard before. We can definitely look into it. The biggest thing to make sure of is that we don't add things to the blanket that will cause it be much heavier. Thanks again or your comments and sharing your ideas!

  • @AsonoftheLion
    @AsonoftheLion 10 місяців тому +1

    just needs tubes in the blanket that can be filled with water from the hoses to keep the blanket down

  • @natebean151
    @natebean151 10 місяців тому +1

    Should be making battery casing out that blanket

  • @shandusa
    @shandusa 10 місяців тому

    The blanket is made of fiberglass that is of course not going to burn because glass doesn’t ignite. For home use just buy a large piece of fiberglass cloth.

  • @trevinom69
    @trevinom69 10 місяців тому +2

    most manufacturers are going to a different chemistry from lithium ion, like LiFePO4, Sodium or solid state whose burning characteristics are negligible.

    • @FireCloakUSA
      @FireCloakUSA  10 місяців тому

      True! But with millions of EVs and hybrids on the road, the need will be there for some time. Additionally these can be used on ICE fires to make the process quicker and provide a containment option for places like parking garages, road tunnels, ferries, etc.

    • @trevinom69
      @trevinom69 10 місяців тому

      @@FireCloakUSA sorry, didn't mean to imply that we don't need these blankets, they are a great idea. It just sounded like EV's seemed to be taking a center stage in your video. I agree with you that going forward, they can be leveraged for many types of fires.

    • @FireCloakUSA
      @FireCloakUSA  10 місяців тому

      No worries and thanks for clarifying :) We aren't anti-ev at Fire Cloak USA. We are team fire department and first responders and are hoping to help make a difference in the way that they fight these EV fires. Thanks again for your thoughts and feedback!!! @@trevinom69

    • @jhvorlicky
      @jhvorlicky 10 місяців тому

      Solid state batteries... haha, keep dreaming!

  • @2078smith
    @2078smith 10 місяців тому +2

    This can work on multiple things. This would be faster, then trying to hook up a fire hose.

  • @benparker5512
    @benparker5512 10 місяців тому +1

    You should put a line down the middle so It's easier to center.

  • @ckwong1013
    @ckwong1013 10 місяців тому +1

    Why is this not used to wrap the battery during battery production? If this is part of the car from the start it may help increase occupant safety

  • @hottractor1999
    @hottractor1999 10 місяців тому +1

    I thought you said it made it's own oxygen, so putting a blanket on it wouldn't help, but it does, so to me that means it's not making oxygen and the blanket is depriving it of oxygen. Which reduces the burn and temperature.

  • @terjeoseberg990
    @terjeoseberg990 10 місяців тому +1

    Even though the batteries produce their own oxygen and fuel, the flame can still be extinguished if sufficiently cooled. Several hoses spewing massive amounts of water mist under the blanket could provide sufficient cooling to extinguish the flame.
    Once extinguished, do the batteries still emit toxic fumes?

    • @FireCloakUSA
      @FireCloakUSA  10 місяців тому

      Thanks! Yes this can easily deployed with other systems to cool even faster. The only thing with using water under the vehicle is that it exposes the ground and water supply to the toxic runoff, so we try to use as little water as possible. The batteries can reignite up to 30 days later, so it may be possible they would still have fumes, but we are not certain on that aspect.

    • @terjeoseberg990
      @terjeoseberg990 10 місяців тому

      @@FireCloakUSA, A whole bunch of atomized water mist is way better than a stream of water. A stream of water will go straight through the flame and hit the ground doing absolutely nothing to the fire, whereas a fine mist will mix with the air, evaporate, and cool the flame. Fire requires fuel, oxygen, and heat. Removing one of the three will extinguish the flame, so I’m suggesting removing the heat.
      When I was a kid, the neighbors yard was full of bamboo, and it caught fire while I was home, so I grabbed my hose and tried to spray it on the fire. The water went right through the flame, hit the ground, and did absolutely nothing to extinguish the flame. So I changed my strategy to hosing off everything that was flammable in my yard instead.
      When the fire department showed up, their hose, instead of spraying a stream of water, it sprayed a wall of mist. The mist entered the burning bamboo and extinguished the fire in about 2 or 3 seconds.
      If you’re able to properly atomize the water, and apply the proper quantity, then there can be no runoff at all.

  • @obedafexi
    @obedafexi 10 місяців тому +1

    Great job 👍

  • @vincentsmith9562
    @vincentsmith9562 5 місяців тому

    Great stuff but I guarantee that within a year this blanket will be improved even more. Thank goodness for science am sure scientists are working on an even better material.

  • @HaukeLaging
    @HaukeLaging 10 місяців тому

    A useful extension for this device might be the possibility to pump a gas without or with just little oxygen content below the blanket so that the formerly burning party cool down much more quickly. The expensive but effective approach would be pure nitrogen. Or you just use exhaus gas which has been cooled by chanelling it through a water tank.

    • @jhvorlicky
      @jhvorlicky 10 місяців тому +4

      Battery fires don't need oxygen.

    • @FireCloakUSA
      @FireCloakUSA  10 місяців тому +2

      Nice suggestion! We partner with a company that actually sells a "grenade" of sorts called the Fire Suppression Tool or FST that can be deployed under the vehicle. It contains a chemical that quickly drops the temperature of a fire. Combined with the Fire Blanket USA, it would take less than 15 minutes for the vehicle to be cooled down enough to finish extinguishing the fire with water.

  • @2olvets443
    @2olvets443 10 місяців тому

    We have seen where EV re ignite, so the blanket may put the fire out but what after that?

    • @FireCloakUSA
      @FireCloakUSA  10 місяців тому

      If they reignite you can use the blanket to cover it again to contain it.

  • @SM-vs4ro
    @SM-vs4ro 10 місяців тому

    How do you dispose of the blanket? How long will it sit in a landfill?

    • @FireCloakUSA
      @FireCloakUSA  10 місяців тому

      We suggest sending it with the vehicle. The towing company can actually wrap the vehicle with the blanket and transport it. Once they drop it at the salvage yard, they can use the blanket to keep the vehicle covered during the 30 day "watch period" and from there dispose of the blanket afterward.

  • @itry2brational
    @itry2brational 10 місяців тому +2

    Its a huge welding blanket.

  • @King-Arthur-The-First
    @King-Arthur-The-First 10 місяців тому

    This is a great idea and the improvements suggested in these comments could provide major improvements.
    Bold centreline.
    Weighted edges
    Built in hose attachments.
    Do think this great product could be marketed as ANY car fire suppressor instead?

    • @FireCloakUSA
      @FireCloakUSA  10 місяців тому

      Thank you! Yes we are working on several of these changes right now. Yes, We do market it toward ICE, EV, and Hybrid vehicles. Most fire departments can put ICE fires out in minutes with less than 500 gallons of water. The EV and Hybrids are challenging using on average 10,000 gallons of water, multiple departments, and hours of time. Because of this our trainings and videos do focus on EVs and Hybrids, but yes they can definitely be used on any vehicle fire! Thanks again for your comments!!

  • @Relentless0neFPS
    @Relentless0neFPS 10 місяців тому +7

    Are the blankets expensive? I was thinking that a person could have one near their garage and deploy it. It could save their house or other property and lives.

    • @FireCloakUSA
      @FireCloakUSA  10 місяців тому +5

      For the blanket and bag they are $1350. We have a weatherproof box that you can purchase that you can use to mount the blanket as well for an additional cost. We provide bulk pricing as well as grant writing assistance for fire departments. If you'd like to purchase, feel free to call 918-794-2300 or email: globalops@stephenstruck.com. Thanks for your interest!

    • @MikAnimal
      @MikAnimal 10 місяців тому +1

      @@FireCloakUSAany chance you have smaller ones for my ebike 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

    • @lachlanB323
      @lachlanB323 10 місяців тому

      @@MikAnimal Do you have one for a motorbike? They're way more likely to catch fire.

    • @MikAnimal
      @MikAnimal 10 місяців тому

      @@lachlanB323 I’m not the guy selling them. Also unless ur talking electric motorcycle then no e-bikes DEFINITELY need them far more.

    • @lachlanB323
      @lachlanB323 10 місяців тому

      @@MikAnimal I am talking a combustion bike. One with an ICE engine also called internal COMBUSTION engine... come on... it is in the name dude! So petrol. Petrol cars are 10x more likely to catch fire then a electric car so I assume it is pretty similar for bikes. although it is probably harder to protect the battery. But it is also harder to burn yourself on a petrol bike.

  • @joeystellmacher8041
    @joeystellmacher8041 10 місяців тому +2

    After the fire blanket, just cover it all up with a dump truck full of dirt, take no chances!

  • @pingvingaming
    @pingvingaming 11 місяців тому

    after that the carpet has been put on and its cooled down is the car ready for transport or does it need something extra

    • @MysteryD
      @MysteryD 11 місяців тому +3

      Might need some new paint, but should be good to go.

    • @FireCloakUSA
      @FireCloakUSA  11 місяців тому +2

      We suggest actually wrapping the vehicle with the Fire Cloak EV Fire Blanket during the towing and storing process. Our parent company, Stephens Truck Center, brought this product on in an effort to help first responders and to protect the towing community and their fleet. Once you've dropped it off at the salvage lot, we again suggest keeping the vehicle covered for up to 30 days after as they often reignite. Thanks for your question! If you have any others, feel free to reach out at www.firecloakusa.com

    • @pingvingaming
      @pingvingaming 11 місяців тому +1

      @@MysteryD and a New battery

    • @mikel4879
      @mikel4879 10 місяців тому

      MystiD • '... some new paint, otherwise it is good to go' to...the big shredder at the junkyard.😂🤣

  • @boostedmaniac
    @boostedmaniac 10 місяців тому +2

    Yeah 30 days after you put it out it starts up again. Scary stuff.

  • @hapyharyhard0n581
    @hapyharyhard0n581 10 місяців тому

    individual cost??? ...are these going to be available to general public? ...be nice to have in my shop or garage. could suspend from ceiling on plastic melt tabs for automatic deployment.

    • @FireCloakUSA
      @FireCloakUSA  10 місяців тому +1

      Yes, you can purchase an individual blanket for yourself here: www.okwreckers.com/electric-vehicle/safety/batp/fireblanket They are $1350 for the blanket and green bag, and they re $1695 with the water proof red case that can be mounted in your shop. We offer bulk pricing as well. Great idea to have it suspended in the garage.

  • @williamhatmaker2202
    @williamhatmaker2202 10 місяців тому

    I got a question what are you going to do if it's in a great big parking garage in between a bunch of cars by the time the fire department gets there with a blanket sounds like me you're going to have a built-in Inferno since the people can't put it out their self

    • @FireCloakUSA
      @FireCloakUSA  10 місяців тому

      Ideally Parking Garages would have these mounted in several places on every level, especially near charging stations. Much like you'd have fire extinguishers available. If someone got a "battery failure" notice, they could actually deploy the blanket and that could contain a fire that may break out. If the fire is already started, then yes, fire personnel would need to use the blanket to contain. If it's already spread to 3 vehicles, the outer cars could each be covered with blankets , then the middle cars. This would at least keep a domino effect from happening, where maybe 3-5 cars burn rather than 15 to 20.

  • @patrickjensen6688
    @patrickjensen6688 10 місяців тому

    Pole to Install seems like a water hook up while it's on the car would be better like a water bed nozzle

  • @SimplyAwesomeness
    @SimplyAwesomeness 10 місяців тому

    Links in the description would be much appreciated

    • @FireCloakUSA
      @FireCloakUSA  10 місяців тому +1

      You can visit www.fireblanketusa.com for more info and to get a quote or also buy individual blankets here: www.okwreckers.com/electric-vehicle/safety/batp/fireblanket

    • @SimplyAwesomeness
      @SimplyAwesomeness 10 місяців тому

      @@FireCloakUSA thank you

  • @markh.2688
    @markh.2688 10 місяців тому

    What is the cost of these blankets? Is there an expiration date? Will the car owners insurance pay for the use of these?

    • @FireCloakUSA
      @FireCloakUSA  10 місяців тому

      Thanks for your questions! A single blanket is available for $1350 with the green carrying back. You can add on the waterproof mounting case for an additional cost. We also offer dealership pricing or bulk order pricing for those needing more than just one blanket. You can visit our website at: fireblanketusa.com/contact-us/ and click on Buy Now to purchase one or fill out the contact form to submit a price inquiry. We were told by the manufacturer that they have at least a 10 year shelf life. The insurance should cover the cost of the blanket in a fire like they would any other property you own, but we suggest checking with your insurance carrier as every company can be different.

  • @NithinJune
    @NithinJune 7 місяців тому +1

    audio cuts out at 8:20

  • @Dupont550
    @Dupont550 10 місяців тому +2

    Awesome idea, what is ballpark price for one?

    • @FireCloakUSA
      @FireCloakUSA  10 місяців тому

      For the blanket and bag they are $1350. We have a weatherproof box that you can purchase that you can use to mount the blanket as well for an additional cost. We provide bulk pricing as well as grant writing assistance for fire departments. If you'd like to purchase, feel free to call 918-794-2300 or email: globalops@stephenstruck.com. Thanks for your interest!

  • @camcairns2584
    @camcairns2584 10 місяців тому +2

    Might be an idea to develop a blanket with a charge that will detonate and deploy inside an electric vehicle when it catches fire. Kinda like a airbag.
    They could be placed inside electric vehicles that are being shipped.

    • @FireCloakUSA
      @FireCloakUSA  10 місяців тому +2

      Good idea! We have partnered with a company called Fire Suppression Solutions that makes a tool called the FST. Once you pull the pins on the FST, you throw it in and it drops the temperature of a fire by 1000 degrees every 35 seconds. This could be thrown into the EV first, then the blanket would be deployed. It would drop the temperatures even quicker! You can check it out at: firesuppressionsolutions.com/about-fst/

    • @lachlanB323
      @lachlanB323 10 місяців тому +2

      That is an overated issue. You've probably read some bad headlines and believed them. But those "ev fires" on ships all turned out to be false. There's never been a full battery car fire on a ship. EV fires are 10x less common then petrol cars however since they do happen stuff like these blankets are useful.

    • @BabyJesus66
      @BabyJesus66 10 місяців тому

      ​@@lachlanB323lachlant6206 there's probably also 10x less evs than petrol cars at this point in time. So that would be obvious they'd have less ev fires than petrol as of now.

    • @lachlanB323
      @lachlanB323 10 місяців тому +1

      @@BabyJesus66 Per 100k cars... so no. per 100 k evs and petrol cars there's 10x less ev fires. Otherwise it would be very misleading lol

    • @OhSoddit
      @OhSoddit 10 місяців тому +1

      @@lachlanB323 Methinks you are an AI bot running at the behest of EV manufacturers. Sprung !!

  • @paparalph4
    @paparalph4 11 місяців тому +3

    Show me with just the full new battery pack from a EV car. As they said it creates it's own oxygen. How do they know when to pull the blanket? when smoke stops? Hours? if premature it just starts back up, back to step one. Nice that it keeps it from starting things next to it.

    • @FireCloakUSA
      @FireCloakUSA  11 місяців тому +8

      This was on a 2013 Tesla with the battery in tact. This was a training, so we wanted to wait and deploy the blanket when it reached thermal runaway. The temp was well above 1200 degrees and stayed there several minutes. For the training exercise, we waited and remove the blanket once it hit less than 100 degrees. You'll see the fire department run water over the blanket before removing. They did this at around 150 degrees. In a real life situation, the blanket is deployed upon arrival. The blanket can then be left on until it cools to 100 degrees which takes roughly 5 to 15 minutes. They can speed the cooling process even quicker by using a small amount of water while the blanket is still covering the car. This entire training took just 30 minutes from lighting the vehicle on fire, waiting for it to reach thermal runaway, and then removing the blanket. Each fire department would have the tools they need to test if the vehicle was cool enough to remove the blanket. You will typically see a small amount of flames which is normal. As you can see, we left the footage of the blanket being removed unedited so you can see how little water had to be used, and how much time it actually took.
      A couple other things Fire Chief Joe Elam mentioned as benefits is that
      1. It only took a single department. Most EV fires take several departments
      2. It took 30 minutes. Letting it burn takes hours and is awful for the environment
      3. It saves thousands of gallons of water. If using water alone, it takes over 10,000 gallons typically to extinguish.
      4. The fireman aren't breathing in the carcinogens coming off the vehicle by letting it burn
      5. Our groundwater and air aren't polluted with the toxins
      6. Yes, as you mentioned, it protects the surround areas and contains the fire
      We'd be happy to answer any other questions. Feel free to reach out anytime at www.firecloakusa.com

    • @pingvingaming
      @pingvingaming 11 місяців тому

      @@FireCloakUSA i assume you guys used Freedom unites right

    • @w8stral
      @w8stral 10 місяців тому +1

      Useless test as the BATTERY was not on fire. Just a normal car fire. @@FireCloakUSA

    • @jacobheinz8236
      @jacobheinz8236 10 місяців тому +1

      @@w8stralwatch again but this time try harder to listen to what the Fire Chief said “ it started popping “ “white smokes indicating battery fires” etc.

    • @jhvorlicky
      @jhvorlicky 10 місяців тому +1

      So ... the batteries were not burning... if they had been, this blanket would have achieved sweet F A.

  • @impuls60
    @impuls60 10 місяців тому +1

    Should have a vent for co2 injection, it would displace oxygen even faster.

    • @FireCloakUSA
      @FireCloakUSA  10 місяців тому +1

      Good idea! We have partnered with a company called Fire Suppression Solutions that makes a tool called the FST. Once you pull the pins on the FST, you throw it in and it drops the temperature of a fire by 1000 degrees every 35 seconds. This could be thrown into the EV first, then the blanket would be deployed. It would drop the temperatures even quicker! You can check it out at: firesuppressionsolutions.com/about-fst/

  • @waltersmithat70
    @waltersmithat70 10 місяців тому

    How a out asking one that a ebike owner can purchase to minimize damage and exposure if this was to happen at home or elsewhere ?

    • @FireCloakUSA
      @FireCloakUSA  10 місяців тому

      We are working on those!!!!

  • @philipoakley5498
    @philipoakley5498 10 місяців тому +1

    Is there a time matched ICE fire for comparison? Surely there's plenty of those.

    • @FireCloakUSA
      @FireCloakUSA  10 місяців тому

      Usually they say ICE fires take less than 15 minutes and 500 gallons of water to extinguish. The blankets can be used on ICE fires, but they do not produce the same issues that EVs due so most fire departments just extinguish with water.

    • @philipoakley5498
      @philipoakley5498 10 місяців тому

      Its worth looking at the results from the Swedish Contingencies work ua-cam.com/video/4xjDdmv8urk/v-deo.html which worked with just the on-board water.
      The LASHFire webinar is also insightful ua-cam.com/video/yj76SXMr_ok/v-deo.html
      New technologies often need updated approaches. @@FireCloakUSA

  • @bryanguzman7162
    @bryanguzman7162 10 місяців тому +1

    Thats cool and all but dont li-ion batteries have everything they need to keep burning inside the battery itself like Air, fuel, and the spark?

    • @jhvorlicky
      @jhvorlicky 10 місяців тому

      Yes. This blanket would do nothing to stop a battery fire.

  • @5150norcal
    @5150norcal 10 місяців тому

    I’m not a firefighter so please excuse the ignorance. Could a smaller blanket be carried by FFs and donned if trapped by a fire?

  • @galdavonalgerri2101
    @galdavonalgerri2101 10 місяців тому

    6:33 major problem occurs.
    Tape is cut (censored) and focus is switched to another camera.
    So, the whole "report" (advertising) is not useful.

  • @39FORTYWATER
    @39FORTYWATER 7 місяців тому +1

    Center line for the blanket. It might not be seen. Reflective strip too. But will we have ev vehicles....🙄

  • @fenceman53
    @fenceman53 10 місяців тому +1

    Wow they didn’t get the blanket centered. How bout a center line printed on blanket?

    • @FireCloakUSA
      @FireCloakUSA  10 місяців тому +1

      We are actually working on that. The plan will be to have a reflective line that is the centering point for future blankets.

  • @nathanbannister8502
    @nathanbannister8502 10 місяців тому

    What is the cost of the blanket and how many uses will it endure before it's time for another.

    • @nathanbannister8502
      @nathanbannister8502 10 місяців тому

      I went to the Web site and they show the blanket being deployed by a couple people not wearing oxygen masks. Everything I've heard is you do not want to be breathing the smoke from a battery fire, which is why in this video, you see firefighters wearing full protective gear including oxygen and full face masks.

    • @FireCloakUSA
      @FireCloakUSA  10 місяців тому

      They are $1350 for the blanket and bag. You can buy them buy clicking the BUY NOW button here: firecloakusa.com/contact-us/ We suggest a single use for these blankets. The Fire Chief in the video discusses. This is due to the number of toxins on the blanket after they've been exposed to the fire. We do know that the toxins are dangerous and don't want anyone touching or breathing in unnecessary fumes by reusing the blanket.

    • @FireCloakUSA
      @FireCloakUSA  10 місяців тому

      Good question! The blanket can be deployed by people without masks if it is safe to do so. For instance your car may give you a battery warning, the blanket could be deployed at that time. If the vehicle is smoking heavily or on fire, then that should be left to the professionals. The folks in the video are the makers of the blanket. Yes as you mentioned the smoke is not something you want to breathe in, so letting the fire department use the blanket is best if you see smoke, flames. Thanks again for your questions! Feel free to reach out to us on our contact page at: firecloakusa.com/contact-us/ @@nathanbannister8502