How The Ham Sandwich Glitch Lets Speedrunners Beat Pokemon BDSP in 15 Minutes!
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"None of this made any sense."
"Imagine it like a ham sandwich"
"I now understand everything, thank you."
This comment made me lol, the second time this year that's happened, congrats!
@@Abyssoft Well you have made me laugh twice this video so far. Firstly with the "bus frame rule" joke and then with the phrase "reverse sandwich".
@@novelezra SmallAnt came up with it all, not this guy
This is transcendent. This Pokemon speedrun basically beats the game without playing Pokemon at all. You don't even do any battles beyond the tutorial. BDSP really is bringing back the absolute brokenness of gen 1 and from a speedrun perspective it's incredible
It is a faithful remake after all
@@BlueSodaPop_ i dont think the original D&P games were *this broken*
The void glitch is about all i can remember
@@jessamynroguski9649 I'm pretty sure they mostly used the same code just with a fresh coat of paint. So you can rest assured knowing that 90% of glitches were directly taken from the original games.
@@BlueSodaPop_ well id agree with you if this were still a 2D game but because they had to make the change to 3D that seems to make things tricky
Even if they did use the same codes they would have to make some big adjustments to convert pixel sprites into 3D models
Hell they even strait up *changed* some big parts like the tunnles and the pokémon contests (even if the change was removing a lot of the fun aspects of them...) and not to mention the game corner got repurposed because of the whole "cant put gambling into a kids game" thing that wasnt a big deal back in the original version (despite my agreement, i really have fond memories of dicking around there)
@@BlueSodaPop_ DPPt is built on C with a custom engine, while BDSP is built with C# on the Unity game engine. It's literally impossible for it to be a direct port. It's only based on it, and Ilca was probably given DPPt's Source Code to help with development, but it doesn't "mostly use the same code just with a fresh coat of paint"
TL;DR: That is just false.
7:00 Imagine a bus. Busses operate on a very very specific schedule such that every 0.35 seconds, a bus departs a station and takes its passengers to the following level, so no matter how quickly you play a level, you have to wait for the next bus to get there. What this means is that when you speedrun the game, you don't have to play each level perfectly to avoid losing time, you just have to play each level well enough to get on the same bus as somebody who did play perfectly.
(Captain America meme - "i understood that Summoning Salt reference.")
Lmfao, the scene bypassing Cynthia to ride the elevator is absolutely hysterical. She's trying to have a conversation with you, but you're like "Lol nah" and just leave her standing there 🤣🤣🤣
“Some sandwiches require lots of bread so you don't softlock“ is a sentence I never thought I'd hear, but here we are
7:26
After the hotplate glitch I really was expecting a physical sandwich to be involved here lol
There was one that involved smearing ketchup on a disc. So I was in the same boat as you
@@Purriah no way…please link me the video this sounds too ridiculous for words
@@gilbertguerrero2916 ua-cam.com/video/THtbjPQFVZI/v-deo.html
Here you go. Finish the vid to see the ketchup smearing spectacular.
@@laipsax oh my god ok I’ll watch it when I have the chance. Thank you lol
Slap your Switch with a ham sandwich and it will beat the game for you in shock
"So, you came to challenge the elite four... wait where are you going?"
"I have transcended beyond your comprehension, mortal."
**phases through solid wall**
"imagine a bus..."
I actually laughed out loud. Sadly I'm sure I'll have the frame rule explained to me many more times throughout the years.
If a champion just lets a challenger walk to the hall of fame they don’t deserve to be a champion
Link: *Backwalks through a wall into the void*
Mario: *Wahoos summon a demon from beyond*
Pokemon: *pulls up a menu with the plans to the building, exits through a vent*
Lol yesh, lets compile the list of most broken Glitches:
HK: Files into a mountain, drops a Big rock on the Final Bosses' head
DK: doesn't understand how walls work, so he ignores them.
Also DK: completely understands how gravity works, but he ignores it anyway sometimes cuz he's a Giga Chad.
Half-Life 2: Bunnyhopping backwards to the speed of Mach 5 because Gordon has a PhD in theoretical physic
Any Bethesda game: More Glitches then you can count, and thats for just one game.
@@lancebird6675 one example, Fallout:
Warp through space time with the help of a 200 year old smartwatch and landmines.
Sell a single negligible bullet for literally anything
"imagine a bus" xD
Bro somehow when I read that I skipped to that exact part
Red Mario?
Framerule moment
More accurately, it's "imagine a sub"
@@amesstarline5482 What?
!IMPORTANT!: This does NOT work on the latest version of the game(1.1.3) or the 1.0 version only on 1.1.1 and 1.1.2 and any glitch possible in 1.1.2 works in 1.1.1
Thank you
how did an update make this possible
How do you get any update?
Instructions unclear: ham sandwich stolen at flagpole waiting for the 21 frame bus
It's very similar to the old tweaking glitch on the original DP. They really went for an "authentic feel" with this one huh
There's something oddly reassuring to the fact that similar glitches to early generation STILL exist in the remake
not really, the early glitches are endearing because they're the product of a fairly small team trying to get as much onto the game cartridge. For glitches like these to come out in a modern game is frankly pathetic and shows that it's little more than a rushed cash grab, and barely a new game worth £60 at all
@@gdiridium5525 i know
But it's still funny
Better laugh than cry
@@namoma4922 I'm laughing but that's only 'cause I didn't pay for a copy of that dumpster fire
This is far more glitched then the gen 4 Sinnoh games, but the existence of a void glitch is nostalgic. For years it was the only way to catch Darkrai on New Moon Island. Surfing on land is also a bit of a pokemon tradition, but that's usually the result of an incorrectly marked tile and it has no exploit potential.
The fact all of this is possible goes to show how hard they dropped the ball on this remake and it breaks my heart cos gen 4 is where i truly got into the pokémon games
truly sad
Same
Ooh, excited to see the collab video explaining more of the tech in this speed run
Not just the tech, the entire history that unfolded in about 2 weeks; it's nuts, other games went years to get the level of progress that Pokemon BDSP had in half a month.
The fact that the one time a Pokémon game isn’t made by game freak the speedrun time is 20 minutes when the next game freak comes out it’s hours long is so funny to me
“Imagine a bus.... just kidding” KILLED me 🤣
It feels weird not seeing Dawn as the MC
Thats pure gold man, thanks! Cant wait for the new year and the progression vid!
Too cool.
Also this sandwich analogy will become the new bus stop explanation.
"Have you been keeping well? Tha-"
Dawn threw a slice of ham at Cynthia!
"...Okay, you can go."
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"Giving" Cynthia ham to skip her battle reminded me of a quote from some book about spells and charms, which goes: "You may fascinate a woman by giving her a slice of cheese".
My favorite part is that to the characters in game this kid just walks by ignoring them and everything while they are trying to talk to them, and becomes the champion by just walking around each league member and going upstairs. Thats just really funny to me
I really wish you called door storage “doorage”
12:44 definitely thought this was a sponsored video for subway or something
Love these glitches, but I can't help but feel they overshadowed the discovery of ACE in the original D/P
Is that a new discovery? Because holy shit i have to check that out
@@Crow0567 Yeah its new. ACE was found in the original D/P just a bit before the time the remakes were released.
RETIRE is one of the team of people who discovered it, and they have a video about it.
What's ACE?
@@StardustNovaChannel great question! ACE is an acronym that stands for Arbitrary Code Execution. Basically, it's using in-game inputs and actions to write data/code to storage in the game's memory. Often this takes advantage of crashes or other malfunctions to access that part of the game's memory, which performs the code you wrote there.
SethBling has a very good video showing ACE being used in Super Mario World, and imo it's a really good example since he shows/visualizes and explains everything happening on a technical level.
Great video as always! I'm really looking forward seeing the world record progression video :)
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Great analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
How broken can a game be? Yes.
I like to think of it as a barbecue skewer
Pokémon without the battles
And a great buffet of sandwiches
BDSP runners: "Let's come up with a name for a glitch that'll never be used anywhere else. I got it, 'Ham Sandwich Glitch'."
SV: "Hold my beer."
Bruh no way I got a Firehouse Subs ad at 6:57 😂😂
appreciate the sandwich tracker :-)
door storage.... DOORAGE
Great content, love how you put that together
NGL, when you mentioned ham sandwiches, I thought for sure it was going to have something to do with ScaVi. XD
Absolutely incredible techniques. This game was torn apart lol
"turt-wig"
Another banger of a video 😎
Out of curiosity, can you do it with other starters? The way you worded it kind of makes it sound like Turtwig's necessary for the glitches.
He's the mightiest of them all. I'm not actually sure but I don't see why you couldn't, Ib could probably clarify, but my understanding is that Turtwig is selected because its Pokeball is the first one the cursor selects and moving to pick a different starter would lose time.
Other starters may be used, but it would result in small amounts of time loss by having to actually move the cursor to choose another starter
@@Abyssoft Yeah, I thought so too, but since this game is so horribly broken I thought that maybe the glitches were dependent on the starter.
@@Abyssoft Turtwig is also slightly optimal because it has the best chance of getting a OHKO on the Starly, IIRC. The odds are extremely low, but so are the odds of the Starly outspeeding. So just a bit of icing on the cake.
This game comes close to the brokenness of gen1. Remaking gen 4 and 1 in one game was a full success!
Wait what?! It wasnt supposed to be a faithful gen1 remake?
I like the sandwhich analogy, definetky never heard it used for this glitch
Sandwich strats!
And i thought they cant do glitches as funny as the original void glitch.
I was wrong
Really enjoy your content
>imagine a bus
*closes laptop *
Back in the original nintendo DS days, it was possible to "ghost cancel" consumables in FF3 remake, so you'd press A and UP at the same time on either the top left or top right storage slot to both load the equipment screen and use an item at the same time (if you did it right, the equipment screen flashes for a moment) and then after that hit B to cancel and it returns that consumable into your inventory, but the original one was not consumed (because the equipment screen was called) so you end up duplicating that item.
Aye aye! We at glitch city research institute had a field day with all these glitches :3
These glitches are insanity and I love them.
You had me going with the imagine a bus. Always nice with a niche speedrunner documentarian like summoning salt gets a shout out 😜
See if you can find the salt shoutout in my Hades video
@@Abyssoft will do!
This video was too long. Halfway through it, I got hungry so I left it playing and went to the kitchen to fix myself a sandwich. But then I found out that I'm out of mayonnaise so I went to a store. There, I saw the most beautiful woman I have ever seen in my whole life. But I'm a really shy person so I took up a three-year personality development course so I could introduce myself. She was very friendly and all, but unfortunately, she had a boyfriend. So I said, all good, I'm a mature person. I wanted the best for her and I harbored no illusion that I am the best person for her and she seemed happy with her boyfriend, so I didn't bother her anymore. But we kept in touch and we became friends and I got over my crush on her. Then she broke up with her boyfriend, we drank some alcohol because of it. I told her she'll be fine and I wished her well. I still think she's the most beautiful woman in the world, but like I said, I am over my crush on her. It was like five years already since I first saw her. Besides, I am quite happy with the friendship I developed with her. It was more important than a crush. So we kept hanging out, drinking, having coffee, and all. I had a girlfriend, she started dating other guys. My girlfriend wanted to live some other life without me in it, so I said, "Okay, I want the best for you and I want you to pursue your happiness." My lady friend and I drank alcohol about it, and she gave me the same advice I gave her when she was in that position and I became okay with the breakup immediately. But we were really drunk, so she spent the night in my apartment. I only have one bed, so you know what that means: She took the bed and I slept on the couch. But on the couch, I really can't sleep. Something was bothering me. So I tossed and turned for about three hours, then I finally couldn''t take it anymore, I stood up and went straight to my room where she's sleeping. I approached the bed, gently sat on it and I reached for her shoulder to pull her closer to me. She stirred and woke up. She asked what's up. I told her, "you know, the first time I saw you, I was watching a video and left it playing to get myself a sandwich then went to the store to get some mayo then I got so distracted by life that I forgot to finish the video." She said, "You know what, I've been wondering about a weird noise in your night drawer." So we opened that drawer, and lo and behold, there's my phone and this video still has two minutes of play time on it.
what the actual shit have i stumbled across this time
I see your mistake, you didn't put enough Old Rod + GSW storages in your sandwich to phase through the wall
@@mbmproductions9217 A classic copypasta
The sandwich feels like it's the wrong metaphor for how the glitch works.
If you have two pieced of bread on top of a piece of ham that's not a sandwich, that's a failure.
From what I understand, the "sandwich" seems to work more like a cake.
You know, the layered food thing that can have repeated patterns, that stacks and that has a lot more ways to be served while still being called cake.
Whoever called this a "sandwich" had no clue how food works.
Edit: or, again, since you have to layer and unlayer it to progress, how about calling it a deck? You can use red and black cards for reference. You stack them face up and then take them back in the same order they're stacked.
You don't undo sandwiches either...
SmallAnt called it a sandwich first ;)
It's called a sandwich because in the original version of the run that used them, it went
bread bread bread bread ham bread bread
so it was pretty bread-heavy, but at least the ham being in the middle made sense
@@Double-Negative lmao, still barely an excuse for the random name :')
@@ultralowspekken Speedrun tech names are typically decided by what's funny, not what some sandwich elitist thinks is specifically accurate. For the record, hot dogs are sandwiches.
@@Cr3zant fair
Mama Cass would be upset at the title
Mum back in 10 minutes, Now that I got my pokemon, I'm gonna glitch thru reality and become Champion.
I didnt expect such a recent game to have a glitch like that!
this reminds me when i was modding some of my switch games and saw lua being used and was like WAIT WAT
This was all just a clever foreshadowing for the scarlet violet sandwich mechanic
3:31 a example is the blacktransion from the dialoge to the fight enter camera repositioning
Why I feel like I watch this a second time?
same
Lol because smallant made the exact same explanation video like 3 days ago
ITS A HAM SANDGLITCH
I knew BDSP were broken but this is just beyond comprehension. Thanks for making a video to finally explain all this!
Ok fun video on Pokémon bdsm
I really liked the sandwich analogy, made it much easier to follow
11:33 is kind of scary
Damn, Genwunners must be happy that Game Freak is going back to their roots even more!
Crazy
>imagine a ham sandwich
This is like when CSI tried to explain IRC with sailboats 😅
I think the original video title and thumbnail you had were more eye-catching since they made me wonder, "How tf does a ham sandwich play into this speedrun?"
The first week I typically change the thumbnail and title a few times to see what does the best then set it to what had the best data, so the ham sandwich may return :)
magical. the mad lads
I like how you have the Canadian flag when you say “boots up” but honestly sounds normals. It’s only Americans that pick out that shit, which is pretty ironic.
"imagine a bus"
I laughed so hard on that
Man, people really hate the models so much that they're covering them with menus almost the entire time so they can say they beat it and not even have to be disappointed by the game for a half hour.
Lol 13:13 the Elevator is free to use
I understand this as overlapping game states.
I don't understand this exploit. Is there some sort of vehicular transportation based metaphor that would help explain it?
the trick may be a sandwich, but this code seems a lot more like spaghetti to me
Omw to tell the family of four that i kidnapped an analogy about a bus.
As someone who used to work at a sub shop for four years, this gave me Vietnam flashbacks
"Turt Wig" :D
Who needs Poke Balls when you can just bend the very fabric of reality and time itself to your will?
I thought the glitch happened because of cosmic radiation for a second there
"Imagine a bus" lmao
A sandwich of just two hams
ROFL:ROFL:ROFL:ROFL
All i got from this was that i need a lot of bread to not softlock
Haven't finished watching the video, but I immediately bought a 3 month gift box for an ex of mine because she's a total weeb. When I checked immediately following the order, it said that I had an active subscription with a future charge date (gifts explicitly say that they are not recurring billing), but after a couple of minutes my account updated to show that the subscription was deactivated. So it looks like the billing system is a little janky, but correct.
These games are more broken than gold and silver, but not as broken as red and blue.
This is all very interesting, but two slices of ham with no bread do not a sandwich make.
The way you describe what a script is is mostly correct, but only if the game does actually use an interpreted scripting language for its events instead of just hardcoded events. Does it? I can't really find anything online...
Hmm. I'm inclined to believe it's just native code that the events are written in that the game jumps to, which would have similar effects anyway (like leaving the game in an unexpected state).
A very tasty video 👌
Yea sandwiches, I get it
Does this count as a pacifist run ?
what is the happy music in the background at 4:30 i think its not novadrome?
It's novadrome, he first composed that song for the Dark Souls 3 video, it may not be on his channel though, he doesn't always post everything to it.
@@Abyssoft Thanks for the answer ! Love your vids alot. But "nooooo" so is there no way to actually listen to it ? no way its so upöifting i need it :)
Does this still even work? I believe menu storage got patched twice. It wouldnt surprise me if it was still in the game, but it must be a pain for speedrunners to have to stay on a single patch
Looking for help regarding a glitch in another game that I think involves storage. I have a general idea of which offsets are being used and what data is being written. Just need some help putting it all-together. If anyone sees this and knows someone that can help, lemme know!
I just don’t consider not beating the final boss as beating the game.
Credit to SmallAnt for the bread n ham