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Curbless Shower LIVE Demonstration
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- Опубліковано 7 лис 2021
- This was a live installation of a Schluter pan in a recessed area for a curbless entry. It was a conversion from a tub to a walk-in shower
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Thank you for this! I’m a 47 year old woman with a very nice home, but as we need work like this I can’t get people to show up for an estimate. So, I have the materials, equipment and I’m making it happen. Tutorials like this are so appreciated!
Get it Carrie! Working on one for my neighbor (I’m 50). Good luck!
You wanna think in terms of waterproofing.
Every place where a face turns (corners), every time the board wasn’t big enough and you have to use another (joints/seams), and every place a something penetrates the waterproofing (screws/nails/knobs/pipes/drain), these are where water can get past the barrier.
Every pro video that I’ve watched has said the same thing, “go by the instructions provided by (mfg name).”
Don’t try to save a few dollars. Use or get and use the tools and products in their system. If you bought too much, you can probly get a refund. You could donate sell or give away leftovers (is Craigslist safe?)
Good luck. Enjoy
Do not use sheet rock
Go for it…o😊0
Yesss Carrie! You absolutely can! So excited for you to make your home your own style all by yourself! Remember that the money you save by doing it yourself is best spent on the top quality materials. So happy to here others are doing the same as I am!!!
Bro I’ve learned so much from just watching this one video so far. Keep it up 👍🏼
Thank you so much for video!!! ❤
Commercial electrician here, love these videos. I have NEVER seen a wet saw on a commercial job site. They use snap cutters, and honestly, mostly grinders.
Same here brother, NYC Electrician, learned a lot from his vids. I’m doing a DIY in my home.
@@prentissleary9368 Damn, I’d love to pick your brain as from everything I’ve learned, NYC is a different ballgame compared to my limited 6 years here in Minnesota. Got into the trades at 30, just took my Journeyman’s test. There’s a running joke about “2 phase” services here and if you want to piss off the Journeyman here ask about it. 😂
Great tip with using kerdi for the overlap between the shower floor and shower pan . Way better than just using the band !
Genius STEVE !
I'm about to take on this challenge June 2024. I'm not a professional, but I've tiled about five bathroom or kitchen rentals over the years. This Schluter pan and drain kit seems to be the simpliest. Wish me luck!
Good luck 👍 need any help let me know www.bathroomremodelingteacher.com/learn
As a designer, this helped in foreseeing ease of a tile layout. Thank you.
Great great work and tutorial. It took away a lot of the fear I have of installing this system. My only concern now is the kerdi curb I have to install butting right up to the existing floor tile in my bathroom.
Thank you brother for the great informative video. Helped out tremendously! Not sure why you’re under 1k in likes 🤷♂️, you should be in the thousands in likes for this video!! Keep up the great work!
Thanks 😊
On vacation there was a curbless shower. The main floor grout joints 4' from the curbless shower leaked water. There should be a grout joint filed with caulk at the transition between shower floor and main floor. That would prevent capillary water movement.
Spot on!
Im 31 in didnt realize I love this stuff till about 3 or 4 years ago I cant seem to find any stable work like this in my area im really rhinking about just posting some adds and try to go legit on my own as a contractor thos is whats I want to so badly I have to figure out a way to make it happen thank you for all u have shown me its greatly appreciated
Fantastic! Thanks!! I'm considering this for two of my baths as dyi's. Now I know a great deal more about getting started, troubleshooting and solutions. Thanks again.
thank you so much for this video!! i was about to run cement board and i saw the DITRA at the store and didnt know what exactly it was. this is my first curbless so wish me luck! But first, level the floors....
Great work..I'm doing a very similar job but larger for wheelchair access. Your video explained enough for me to confidently tackle the job on my own. Thanks
I have a question..I hope you have time to answer. When installing the drain flange and then the grate...I see that thin set is packed under the grate against the adjustment collar...since all tile is not waterproof...do you make a void that could to allow water that can build up under the tile to escape past the adjustment collar so it doesn't build up in the pan.?
I’m putting in a curb less shower pan and taking out a cast iron tub. But I’m not touching the rest of the bathroom going to be tricky removing the tub. So carry-on you’re never too old to learn God bless
Funny thing about you is that you are so naturally natural ... the other guys on youtube want to show how good and the best they are ... that is why i follow you. Not so good thing about you is, I can never find the continuation of a video ... like this one for example
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Keep bringin it Brother !
I prefer the KBRS foam pan.
This was a very informative video. Great job
nice video, i have used schluter for over 20 years and started going back to mud set walls and floor due to how bad the walls are. going to be doing a master bath with hydro ban to go over the mud. there are no shortcuts but there are differences in costs between the 2 methods. remodels are always more work than new construction and should be compensated for it too.
Which method would you say is better cost wise? Supply issues not being taken into account. I keep debating whether to go Schluter or Hydro Ban or concrete boards. Looking to doing 3 bathrooms one a time of course.
@@eunicom both laticrete and schluter products are very good and will work fine, it's just a preference on which method works for you, the biggest issue i have with waterproofing fabric is the buildup in the corners which make inststalling smaller tiles more difficult. the one plus hydro ban is that you apply 2 coats to achieve 20-30 mils thickness which keeps the buildup down to a minimum. if you plan on using any type of backer board, do your prep and make sure those studs are plumb and flat because if you install to warped and out of level walls, you will fight the install with thinset
Is that a special Kerdi-seal around the integrated diverter valve?
Very good video
this is awesome!!
Jump through various part but will definitely come back to watch when I start my bathroom. Do you have a video of tiling the shower pan using 12 x 24?
great detailed video.
Thanks for the video it helped me feel better knowing I'm doing this right. One question, where did you get the oblong valve body that fits Deltas universal shower valves?
Thank you
Seems like mixing the Allset according to manufacturer directions would be just as critical to obtain optimal bonding properties for waterproofing as it is for tile!
Thank you!
Can you use the same membrane you used on the walls to waterproof the floors?
Thanks!
Can you link me to the video where you had to mud to extend the pan?
Your awesome. Hard worker like me ! LOL we even look alike
Very nicely done
Using Schluter thinset was required for full warranty. I Kerdi my walls into pan last like flashing.
I need some in Brooklyn to do this, looks easy but scary if you don’t get it right…😮
Good video, keep em coming sir!
Thank you for taking your time to explain everything in details, including price. Love all your videos. Btw, what's the brand of your knee pads? I like those because it doesn't wrap around the thigh area. Also, Can I have the brand for the gloves as well? Thank you.
I put tile in my kitchen over plywood with fortified thin set No membrane or Hardy board. That's a no no. Not one tile came loose .8years so far
i thimk you do good work
I wish you left a link to the pole you used to compress the drain.
The "fleece" you were referring to are known as Hydrophobic fibers.
At least that's what I was told when I attended the innovation workshops
we prefer fleece
Btw I just subscribed to your channel because of that great video.
I have a 6x6 onsuite that is dominated by a corner shower. Can i waterproof the entire floor and use a shower curtain?
what if I don't have a brace to hold the drain down like you do
How did you water proof you mixing valve when it’s not a circle. The 4 1/2 seal doesn’t fit my shower valve. Help!!!!
Let's try it again! 🤣
Thanks for the great video! Learning a lot to try and do our own bathroom. Question on the zip wall to push the flange down. What would be the alternative if we don’t have a zipwall? Can we put a loaded bucket over the flange instead?
02/18/2022 Schluter directly told me NOt TO USE "Self Floor Leveler". They said to thin-set first then put a piece of cement board. I used Durock. Then thin set the Durock for the pan.
FYI. I was going to use self leveler.
Yeah many reps still do. It’s in their one of their bulletins to use it up to 1/4”. Ardex levelers are a premium leveler used on many systems like this. But if your local rep say ms no, you must obey
Its best to set and seal the foam tray after you tile the walls. Use a ledger and leave enough room at the bottom so you can work on the wall tile on the subfloor. Also, you should take a Schluter class or mayBe watch some videos. You are sitting on the bag of inside and outside corners. Yes, you want a 2” overlap but use the corners and overlap 2”. If you watch the videos you will do it without having a 3 layer build up in the corners as well plus its less work and saves material.
Is that Superman underwear you are wearing?
Good man!
Hey chip great input. Yes Schluter classes are definitely a must! Been around a long time, probably gone to a dozen seminars 👍
It would be nice if I knew what this would cost. I have a 60 x 33 inch tub area that needs to be done.
Did you lower the floor I’m gonna have to lower the floor so I can match the existing tile. I did this bathroom 10 years ago and they want to leave everything except for the cast-iron tub.
I cant find 36x48 with linear drain on long side wall? Any suggestions?
Why do they put the walls on first i was allway tought to put the floor on first and then the walls. can someone
What type of knee pads are you using?
I was hoping to hear more about the 'capilary' break between the curbless and the bathroom floor? Do you create one between thinset during the tiling?
Detailed in my course, but also here Curbless Shower Problem to be aware of
ua-cam.com/video/rYODu1fOIfk/v-deo.html
What size hole in subfloor for drain?
Thank you for the video. How to get ready for inspection? How do you fill water in the shower pan and let them sit for 24-48 hours to ensure there is no leaks.
It’s a pain, but if you have any kerdi Board or similar, you can kerdi fix yo pan and walls. Next day you’ll have to surgically remove it. I’m not sure of another way. I’ve heard of guys buying 5 lbs of plumbers putty….but never tried it
@@BathroomRemodelingTeacher Thanks, they don't require pan inspection where you're located?
@@yairhaim4191 yep 👍
I'd suggest checking out "star tile" he has a few curbless shower examples too. I'm anti schluter as it's very expensive. I think a solid sub floor, and maybe some durock/hardie, then some mesh and red guard or their speed coat. Is the way to go. I'm not so sure on thin set sealing a membrane down. It is faster but speed coat claims to dry quick. Theres many ways to do things and if this works then great. Tile coach just talked about kerdi linear drain failures. The glue isn't holding. Red guard states on the instructions it is rated as a pan liner and to paint it to stainless drain Then flood test
Redguard sucks. Not defending Schluter either. It’s simply quicker and really not that expensive. About $700 for this whole shower
Are those superman underoos?
Do they still sell those poles anywhere?
Good video, but what’s with the ads every four minutes?
What’s the difference between this system on the walls and just using red guard?
Application mainly. But I don’t believe redguard has a pan system?
So is the pan tapered to the drain or you do that with mud later?
It is already sloped on this pan.
I plan on doing exactly this, dropping the shower pan by sistering 2x4’s to the trusses and installing the schluter pan. My question is how would it be effected if I used ditra heat? Also could I go into the shower with the ditra heat?
Great questions
I have most of the answers in this video Floor Leveler Over Ditra Heat - Curbless Shower l PLAN LEARN BUILD
ua-cam.com/video/mxFcMpiB9Ig/v-deo.html
@@BathroomRemodelingTeacher great thank you, super helpful videos
Are you professional or can I try this on my own? lol
FYI your Amazon storefront link is broken.
Why is it you don't see linear drains as much anymore?
I just installed one in my remodel but it seems no one else is, and now I'm worried I didn't get the memo.
I still see plenty of people installing them, I just think they are a bit pricey for most people. I personally will not install one again in my own home - m.ua-cam.com/video/X4phszLmP44/v-deo.html
Is this just a standard schluter pan or do they make a specific pan for curbless?
Schluter thin tray 👍 amzn.to/3XleKL8
I can not find one video of somebody installing a 60x60 kerdi pan, where they go together like legos, not that it’s really any different but just to see other do it, not even on kerdis website
One heck of a shower 👍
I’m having such a hard time figuring out how to have the floors line up. After mortaring the ditra onto the floor how much difference should I account for to line up with the pan.
If you only took out 3/4” plywood and didn’t add anything to outside floor. Ditra will be too low. Ditra xl or ditra heat will line up, but not ditra. In this video I installed new 3/4” plywood, but shimmed up joists with 1/4” strips before setting outside plywood. If you are higher than pan, that’s not a bad thing
@@BathroomRemodelingTeacher thanks. Ya I am gonna be higher. My house has the joists and then 3/4 slats. Then I put 3/4 plywood on top. The floor pan lines up but will be a little bit lower after the ditra. Thanks for your time
@@racerguy6979 all the better then if you ask me. That extra 1/8” or so is nice to have. Better drainage when water hits glass 👍
Would you say the thin set adds about 1/8” to hight?
Just under an 1/8 closer to 1/16 I think
Yeah typically. It’s always tough to tell, which is why I recommend tiling outside floor first, then meet shower floor tile to it 👍
I would have sanded the drywall off the floor
im confused... i though they required non-modified thinset?
Most manufacturers warrant their thinset with Schluter now. It used to be a big deal, but not so much anymore. I still prefer setting all membrane, pans, etc with Schluter all-set and then use Ardex for setting tile. But you could argue that using Schluter thinset for everything is the way to go 👍
So what is it modified or non modified
So I messed up today .. I started lifting tile from the bathroom and hallway near laundry room and now kitchen and tables and living room are full of a fine dust …. I googled and read it’s bad to breathe the dust … is this true ??? I remember my dad wouldn’t even wear a mask back in the day…
It’s bad yes but you’ll be fine if you only did it once but if your doing all the time yea wear a mask 😅 don’t be like my dad or your dad they either didn’t care / didn’t know / didn’t even think about it, my dads been a wood worker for 20+ years never wears a mask , every morning he coughs for a good hour getting ready to go to his shop
I agree our dads were old school so yes not wearing safety equipment was a man thing back in the day. I worry too much so felt stuff for a few days .. good to read your post! Have a great 2023!
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Always wonder why niches are just randomly built beforehand so you have basically zero idea how the tiles are going to be cut around them? Build as you tile so the niches are on a joint, not with cuts all the way around them!!!
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Also, love how dirty this guys tools are, makes me laugh. Obviously gets shit done. You can tell professionals from UA-cam Hobbyist.
Bet you can't say SCHLUTER SHOWER SYSTEM 3-times real fast
Full of it! If you use a mud pan, just redguard it! Everybody wants to act like they know it all and their way is the only best way. You're full of it. I've demolitioned bathrooms decade's old that had no modern waterproofing systems and there was no water damage. You're full of it.
Most mud should go below 3/8” of an inch. That hinders slope on a pan this height. It’s simply showing a way to do it. Deal with you sh$t
No way sheetrock should be used that's amateur as it gets you younger generation didn't see what happens when you do !
Very good video