@@AttilatheThrilla They probably didn't. Police are required to arrest some one who committed a crime, especially a homicide. The DA is the person who would have decided whether to go to trial or not.
Man, Im not even a medical professional, and this conviction is horrifying. We already have a severe nurse shortage, no support, overworked, treated like crap by doctors and hospitals. Wonder why there's a shortage? Its a tragedy this happened, but you overwork people like that, its gonna happen.
Victims? U mean the 75 yo woman on hospice who was supposed to die? If anybody is a victim it’s this nurse. The jurors are such goons, and the DA for even pursuing charges is gross. At least the family made sure she didn’t get jail time. Would have been moronic.
@@AttilatheThrilla there never should have been charges at all. It’s just about the hospital blaming the employee so they aren’t as liable. Basically saves Vanderbilt money. The DA or prosecutor was from Vanderbilt, it was their fault for having that med even available, a med that served no purpose for that wing. The family should have made sure they went after the hospital.
Are we ever going to look at holding that hospital accountable for flagrant violations in procedure and staffing ratios? Not entirely that nurses fault.
!00% All of corporate push workers to multifunction.....It is so easy to make a mistake. People are over worked, Its crazy for nurses and Dr. to work double shifts? Yet it seems to be common. I am sad for that family . My family has suffered from medical mistakes. we forgave too..
@@rebeccanater every hospital is like that. It’s all about money to them. Administration could care less. It’s such a horrible field to work in. You can save so many lives, make 1000s of peoples lives better in such a short period of time, make the hospital a ton of money, and they will burn out and throw their workers under the bus in a heartbeat. The fact this nurse was even charged was a joke. The hospital was obviously at fault. The DA was a Vanderbilt grad. Such a pos university, hope they go bankrupt.
People don't care They rather just blame the nurse yes she made a mistake but she shouldn't be in jail the hospital's all over the United States cover work the nurses.. giving them long hours.. tye justice system is terrible
How is it that when a police officer shoots a person they get off. But when an overworked nurse makes a mistake she is charged with homicide, loses her career and everything.
She lost her career in the medical field because she made a terrible mistake. One that cost somebody their life. She should be relieved she got probation instead of any prison time.
It sounds like she could nurse again after probation. SHE is making the choice to quit nursing. I don't blame her. That one mistake prolly would have her second guessing herself forever more.
@@Mouse_007 they're talking about the US and they're right, a yt teen can cross state borders with a weapon and kill people and get off scott free, cops can beat people and kill them and get off scott free. The system is screwed in the US.
I feel for everyone involved. As a former nurse, myself, I had to quit because of the extreme pressure, low staffing and long hours caused by the medical establishments' desire to make profits. The stress is horrible and mistakes are often made because of nurses not given enough time to make decisions & being short handed in critical situations. This can and does happen to so many hospital staff and it is heart breaking for everyone!
I have been a patient. I have seen the pressure nurses are under. They do a great job. I know they want patients to recover and go home. I do not buy that this had any malice. The nurse is already punishing herself enough.
@@dinahkruppa913 Malice or intent is the difference between murder and manslaughter. She definitely committed manslaughter. Whether her actions were an accident or not, she still killed someone. The Judge was lenient, but any sentence passed down would have been deserved, you cant kill someone that wasn't in self-defense and have no legal consequences
@@eddydesir7702 accidents happen. People should not be punished for unintentionally killing someone. And if this is the law then it needs to be changed.
I do believe that. I worked as caregiver only a few weeks and stopped as to many neglect there, I did not wanted to continue, some was mesn tho and also there def had not enough time for everyone. So for sure nurses does have lots of pressure as Doctors too. It is very sad when errors happen and lead to someone death. Tragic for the family.
I have been a nurse for over thirty years and this is heartbreaking. We need legislation to make facilities have reasonable nurse to patient staffing ratios! There is not so much of a nurse shortage but a shortage of us willing to work in these conditions! We keep saying we can’t even take a pee break but nobody is helping us. I have retired because I can’t handle it anymore but if I could have a safe patient load I would go back!
Good to hear your comment about the low nurse to patient staffing ratios also the travel nursing and other professionals needs to be ended. The hospital administration is responsible for this crisis, they have orchestrated to make higher profits for the hospital owners and administrators.
@@HouseofTherapy2023 without travel nursing we in NYC would have had a much higher patient death toll back in the early days of March and onward in 2020 due to the "mysterious" Covid virus.
Preach sister! I am a nurse and I work exclusively with in home care with tracheostomy/ventilator patients. I refuse to work in a hospital or nursing home bc the ratio to residents/nurses are horrible.
I'd be curious to see how doctors fare when making similar mistakes. I suspect they rarely get turned in or prosecuted compared to nurses or other allied health professionals.
People don’t understand what us nurses have to deal with. Low staffing, too many patients to one nurse, long hours. Mistakes DO happen. We aren’t perfect!!
Absolutely. I never understood how someone can make millions per year throwing basketballs for a living and nurses/ mds, sacrifice their lives to save lives for not always great salaries.
@lindus jones statistics shows that nearly 80 percent of nurses are planning to leave the profession and they don't get paid great in most countries. what are you going to do when you are hospital and there is no nurses to care for you!
Ive met some doctors and nurses and thats not always true we have some seriouslly messed up in the head people in our medical system just like our police system i get it there are some good people but sense the opioid epidemic we cant defend all this medical malpractice and act like its not that like the doctor perscribing horse dewormer
@@gloriaf6971 because that is such a demanding profession you have to care deeply about helping people ,She will be scared by the error and also by the way she was treated by the law...Mistakes happen everyday, its a demanding job.
I was hospitalized for 6 days and released yesterday. Nurses work so damn hard and are exhausted. They are supposed to work 12 hour shifts, but they never go home after their 12 hours. They have to update the oncoming nurse as to the status of every patient, explain their medical condition and meds to be administered. Doctors are great, but they make the diagnosis and go onto the next patient. It is the nurses who heal and interact with the patients all day, every day. Someone like me who was very scared, can be a pain in the ass. I asked so many questions and took too much of their time. For this, I apologize. I have deep respect for every single nurse, nursing assistant and every other health care worker. God Bless them all. This poor nurse made an honest mistake which anyone of us could make. Thank God for the forgiveness by victim's family.
We need to be looking at the hospital administration, the whole system that led to this. What were the work hours? What were the safeguards in place? This is a systems issue. Do not just blame it on one person!!
This isn’t a system issue or overworking issue. It takes less than two seconds to read a vial before pushing a drug into someone’s veins. She didn’t make just one mistake…she made many many many mistakes that led to the patient’s death. I use the types of drugs she gave all the time and it literally says paralyzing agent on the drug plus it comes as a powder. The drug she wanted to give comes as a liquid. Plus when you are an ICU nurse you have to go everywhere with your patient to monitor them and save their life if needed. She also failed to monitor her patient. There are even more mistakes but it’s the nurses fault not the hospital’s fault even though they’ll probably get sued because the hospital has the ability to pay out millions
Yes, if this patient had been placed on a monitor then her death could probably have been avoided. Am a retired pediatric nurse and have given Versed many times. The patient had to be on a monitor and someone had to be bedside while patient was sedated. We were also expected to know the generic names of our most commonly given drugs. Yes mistakes can happen but not monitoring her was careless.
Healthcare institutions could care less about patients. They put profits before anything else. I have worked for several companies and it's always the same story. They don't even give employees a full lunch break much less bathroom breaks. I was always rushing taking care of 4 patients in the same time slot (15 mins, in my case). It was horrible, that's why I am never going back into the healthcare field, not to mention the shitty pay that comes with great responsibilities and long hours. Talking to my supervisors and administrators was like talking to a wall. Not worth it if you ask me. Mistakes are very very very common in the healthcare field more than you can imagine. That's because they want to see a lot of patients in a day. The more patients the more money. Yet, they are always in a "budget" when it comes to staffing and supplies. This is not only present in private clinics or hospitals, but in federally qualified health centers as well.
I know I would have forgiven her if it were my family. She seems like a sincere, honest lady who made a mistake. I hope that she can put this behind her at some point and have a fulfilling life.
She never should have been charged. If you want to drive nurses out of the profession, and prevent others to join, the is the PERFECT way to get it done. If you want to look for the REAL villians, look at the hospital administrators, who chronically understaff nurses and absolutely create an atmosphere where a situation like this is not only possible, but likely, to happen. We need to eliminate the "non-profit" status of hospitals that pay administrators multi-million dollar salaries and where salaries are driven by "efficiency".
Disagree. Nurses, doctors, hospitals, and anyone involved in medical negligence should be charged or at the very least, held accountable. If you just shrug your shoulders and release liability then these mistakes will continue to happen. Yes, healthcare in the US is bad, but there are also many terrible nurses and physicians that should be held accountable regardless of whatever we think about the US healthcare system. The US medical community creates a toxic culture from the start when students start their journey into medicine and the terrible healthcare system just accelerates bad behavior and gives an excuse for people to look the other way.
Holy crap. Can`t even begin to imagine how you can live and work in a country that is able to do this to a nurse. Her name should never ever been made public, and the institution should take the blame. This is just insane to watch. Kind regards from a first world country.
The family are amazing people. This is a shitty situation all around. She didn't intentionally do it. But the family? Heart breaking. A life is lost that won't come back. This family is to look up to.
oh, come on she's supposed to be a professional it's not as if it were that simple, she was changing oil in a car and put in 10w40 instead of 10w30 as a nurse she should have been more careful hope she has nightmares the rest of her life it wasn't the Dr fault only she can except the blame instead she gets a pat on the wrist and told to go home and to kill another day without reprimand certain jobs you have to pay more closer attention this could have been one of your family member and it's still ok none of us are perfect regardless what that judge says she's wrong and guilty and he is also this could have been avoided there's a reason she fouled up not a mistake not paying close enough attention that's not a mistake that's willful
@@cherrylove3656 Dude you sound real vindictive and unappreciative of the realities of any kind of medical profession. Everybody makes mistakes, and in the medical field, those mistakes are sometimes fatal. Being imperfect doesn't make you an idiot, it makes you human.
@@cherrylove3656 says the uneducated mechanic who the only thing knows is his level of understanding. Don't compare your work to that level of a NURSE.. You will not keep up since the only you known is to change the oil of your car.
@@LockedandLoaded777 hey nincompoop show your ignorance some more if you can't comprehend why I used mentioned that then your a dolt I probably shouldn't have bothered replying to someone who's looking for stupid things to comment on what's the matter your not getting enough attention at home get a life
Speaking as a nurse, I can't believe some of these comments! Saying an error shouldn't have been made in the first place if she did the 3 checks, mistakes happen even to the best, no one is perfect. To error is human.I guess you perfect people should go form your own perfect country so all of us imperfect people don't taint you. Saying being overworked and overtired isn't an excuse? Really, you can control your mind that well and those things won't effect you? Teach me your tricks!! If the nurse that makes the error goes to jail for an honest mistake, then there are other occupations that people should start being jailed. If someone dies due to a bacterial outbreak in a food thats recalled, the inspector at the plant better be facing jail time, along with everyone on the line, maybe even the harvesters, etc. And you got food poisoning at your favorite resteraunt? I think the chef and sou chef better be charged with something! Attempted murder maybe? Or, maybe jail the nurse even though the family says "mom wouldn't want her to go to jail or anything" and see how many nurses are left in the profession in a few years. There's already a shortage and "Join Nursing, get Jail time" won't make for great advertising!!
Sherri - not sure if you followed the entire trial, interview with TBI and the board of nursing, but I followed this case religiously. I also listened to lawyers takes on this case. She definitely didn’t deserve jail time but this was not an error due to short staffing or being over worked. She was way too complacent. She also gave every official a nail to hang her on the cross with. This never would have gone to trial if she had not waived her Miranda rights and had a lawyer with her. If you listen to all of her interviews she would not stop talking. “ do you feel that you were overworked that day?” “No not at all. I’m supported by the hospital and staff.” “ did you feel that you need an extra float nurse?” “No, one nurse can handle it.” She REQUESTED to be a preceptor to the new employee, and she also said, “ I think I killed that patient”. “I shouldn’t have done overrides, I should have checked the vial…” and on and on and on… all with no lawyer present. She ruined any type of defense because she talked too much. We as nurses need to learn to keep our mouths shut and stop talking so damn much. She may as well have handcuffed herself and told the court to arrest her.
At age 71 I experienced a class A aortic dissection. An outstanding group of surgeons and nurses helped me to pull through, which is rare with that kind of ailment. While our medical system and its practitioners might not be perfect in my case they were. I should mention that my wife remained close by watching everything that they gave me, and she did find errors from time to time.
@@stevemccarty6384 It is always good to have family with you and patients should should always remain vigilant in their healthcare. There is nothing wrong with questioning the doctor or nurse, if something looks different, say something! Because people do make errors, like you said, and when you know what your doctors orders are, you know if something is wrong and can question it.Your wife did a great job
*So basically bc hospitals are almost impossible to sue bc they’re a “practice”* *They decided to put liability on the employee that’s actively “Practicing” on the patient*
The forgiveness by the family speaks volumes as to the type of people they are, and also the type of person their mom was, because they clearly said their mom wouldn't want the nurse to be punished, I also feel very sad for the nurse for having to go through this because of the career she chose.I hope she can move on, and use the second chance she has been given to still do good and make a differeence in the lives of others
Long and shifting working hours, frequently under staffed issues, constantly having to multi task for various assignments, are all part of the job. No matter how perfect you think you are, or try to be, at some point you’re going to make errors. Nurses know that their license can be in jeopardy for the slightest mistakes they might make. This is obviously devastating for both sides. 🙏🏾
@John Nagger Maybe RPN, but RN is 4 years with lots of clinical involvement...so no not the same. Thats like saying whats the difference between a flight attendant and janitor who cleans the plane.
First of all, bless that family. What a testimony to that mother. I know in my heart she did not mean to do that. I feel this was appropriate punishment. She will have to live with this all her life. I wish her well.
This was a clear and simple accident. The message sent is don't report things and get an attorney before you say anything. A horrible message was sent to the healthcare community.
@@rcdowdy This is a horrible message that is being sent to people who trust their medical staff to not make horrible mistakes. A mistake does happen, and people should be held accountable for it. A police officer fires a gun instead of a taser. We hold her accountable. She goes to jail! There are far too many medical mistakes that keep happening. It seems preposterous that instead of a sedative, the poor trusting patient was given something that killed her! What the HELL? But the nursing and medical community all rush together to protect the person who made that mistake that killed a woman.
Incidents like this is why I can't trust the hospitals & the staff... (staff -- because they're far too overworked, especially in the ICU units) When my mom was in the hospital, I watched everything like a hawk! The staff allowed me to check her file, meds administered, etc.... pretty much anything & everything I needed to know. Anyways -- it's good of the family to show such forgiveness.... 💯 I've yet to forgive the doctor that misdiagnosed my mom's cancer....
I feel bad for the family who lost their loved one. Aside from what happened, healthcare workers work ridiculous hours. I don't know if that was the case in this case, but a lot of medical mistakes could be prevented if they did not have to work 12+ hours a day. That's inhumane. The body biologically needs sleep.
Lol sleep. That's cute. Working in EMS means literal sleep deprivation. I work 24 hour shifts and have to keep track of the rotation while asleep. So that means waking up every time a call comes in. Some nights I get some sleep but most nights it's literally sleep deprivation torture.
AND YET medical workers CHOOSE to do it day in and day out working long hours knowing it impairs their ability to provide adequate treatment. Last time i checked, nurses and other healthcare workers weren't drafted into service. You CHOOSE the job, you CHOOSE the responsibility, your CHOOSE to pay the price if you FAIL at your job and kill someone. so you can just pipe down with all the ridiculous jibber jabber.
Then more logical for hospital and medical office to arrange work staff hours so that ways people have the needed time to sleep and mentally recharged. As a patient, I want that so medical mistake can be avoided. I get that due to epidemic, staff shortage is known. But this case, it is pre-COVID.
You are correct. You can’t run a hospital like a business, but that’s how it’s done now. Also why many of us gave up on the profession. However, It’s still the responsibility of the care giver to be sure before administering any form of treatment. I would have been too cautious.
@@annat6249 unfortunately, "logical" is often times contrary to profitable. Hospitals are businesses and the admin could care less of your views on logic or the health and well being of their own staff. What's even more amazing is that hospitals RAKE in the cash, and while ideas such as yours to adjust work hours would certainly impact profits of a hospital, it wouldn't come close to shutting one down, they just wouldn't make "as much". This perfectly illustrates the amount of greed and disregard for human life that is inherent in our medical system.
@@c00mgoblin oh, 100%. Not defending her at all. Just reading some of the comments was the only reason I posted. People just fail to realize with the law it is all about intent. That’s all.
As a former surgical intensive care nurse who made a near-fatal medication error, my hope is that RaDonda finds a way to forgive herself for the error that occurred. While she holds direct responsibility, the system around her has failed her as well. Forgive yourself, RaDonda.
God's blessing to everyone involved. I am a retired Nurse and I can see how easily mistakes can happen even with all the check systems in place. Nurse are stretched beyond belief! They are hero's. The beautiful mom and the family will truly be blessed for showing forgiveness in such deep heart break. The nurse you can tell is a loving person and has a good heart. Like she said, this will stay with her forever. Praying for healing for everyone. I know your mom is in heaven very proud of ya'll.
Then the police in Uvalde should also be sentenced for making the wrong decision to go in right away and kill the shooter. That mistake cost kids lives!
I didn’t not follow this case closely. I have had several long stays in the hospital and currently have a friend that has been hospitalized since August. Nurses are the backbone of the hospital and I have seen first hand how they are responsible for care for several patients and working 12 hour shifts. I am surprised more mistakes like this does not happened. This family is extremely forgiving, I pray for their continued peace.
Is the facility she was working at being held responsible too? Because of COVID, in-patient facilities are hiring new/inexperienced nurses and leaving them alone on their shifts to administer and prescribe medications without anyone to help them. My friend who is a new and inexperienced nurse had made many non life threatening errors but she’s afraid it might happen one day if she stays there any longer. So she put in her two weeks and is applying for outpatient jobs. I was so stressed for her but thank god she’s leaving. The facility hired her because they were short staffed but knew the risks of hiring an inexperienced nurse and putting their patients lives on the line by making my friend work ALONE. That’s their fault not my friend’s fault.
she was fired and lost her nursing license , this is a medical malpractice case, it was made a criminal case by the DA, the judge saw through this and gave the correct sentence.
She doesn't deserve prison but should never have her RN license reinstated, ever. You can't kill someone due to a lapse in judgement and expect to ever practice again.
A lapse in judgment preludes to her making a decision knowingly, she didn’t decide to use the wrong medication, it was an error made unknowingly. Still manslaughter none the less
As a former nurse it’s very important to double check yourself before administering any form of care. When a patient is sick they must be able to trust the care giver. I feel bad for this nurse and certainly it wasn’t on purpose, but one must take serious precautions when giving any form of medication that could lead to worsening a patient’s health or death. This nurse appears to be a caring individual, but unfortunately they’re so many in the field of medicine who don’t care about the patient. This is why I choose no longer to be a part of the medical profession. I feel strongly that a precedence needs to be set, so that future medical professionals don’t make these deadly mistakes.
You're right nurses need to double check administration. But I think with nurses being overworked and the pandemic and the increasing strain on the healthcare system, I think its much easier said than done. Also you're expecting physicians and nurses not to make mistakes when the report clearly mentions 250,000 errors annually, its bound to happen because healthcare providers are human. And I think it could actually demotivate others from pursuing healthcare in its entirety.
Thank you! I was beginning to feel such disgust that people in the medical community rush to protect someone who may have been caring but was grossly incompetent .... and it cost a woman her life.
@@patricias5122 yeah looking at the evidence it was clear that there were so many points where she should have noticed that it was the wrong medication. She had to override so many alerts and other obvious warnings even on the lid of the ampoule.
Screw nursing! I wouldn’t go back either after all that happened. Thanks to the victims family for showing grace to this nurse. I pray that time heals their pain 🙏🏾
She killed a woman by not doing her job right. How can you grab the wrong medication ignore the warning not scan it and not stay with a patient. Pray for the person who died family.
@@mikestefka6668 go to hell hopsitals need to perform there job right what do u mean no one is forcing you. The woman had a brain hemorrage how could she stay home but if she knew there was a killer waiting for her At the hopsital she wouldnt have gone !!!!
Why did it take her so long to say "I'm sorry". I heard her say it in her speech to the family before she was escorted from the courtroom. There is something about her, I can't put my finger on it, she doesn't seem totally sincere. I'm sorry if I am wrong, the way she appeared to me.
I admit I do not know all the facts. All I know is that I worked as an orthopedic tech years ago and I know the incredible stress and work load all nurses have to deal with on a daily basis. From petulant doctors who treat nurses as slaves, to an overload of patients. I would never be a nurse.
I am 60 & have gone through 2 near deaths and long hospitalizations. One at age 29, the other at age 53. I couldn't say enough about how much I loved my nurses, even one particular difficult one. I could never shut my mouth over this. This poor woman is gone & she leaves a family and loving nurse who grieve. I thank the judge for being just that, a judge, and doing the right thing. Prison would protect no one, nor teach/rehabilitate no one. It was just a tragedy of life. My condolences to the family. I am now more concerned for this beautiful young lady. He life needn't be defined by this.
I am a retired nurse and an instructor as well. We know that there is no nurses want their patients under their care to die. But we are human, human can make an error. Once it happened what we can do is learning from our mistakes. I'm sure that this compassion nurse she would never ever forget this evidence for the rest of her life and this will be the lesson learnt for all nurses worldwide. During and after Covid it showed that the broken healthcare system need to be fixed. God blessed the patient's family for their understanding and forgiveness. ❤
Don't know about any other nations but in Finland nurses are held also responsible for giving wrong dosages if Dr has described so and nurse proceeds with it.
Chronic understaffing and being expected to work overtime... This goes beyond than just an individual's mistake but a systemic flaw in the US healthcare system. Here, I only see someone being scapegoated.
Sorry, but this sends a wrong message to future nurses. If you want high standards as a patient, you need to punish nurses who don't follow protocol. It's not about the victim or nurse at this point. It's clear there was no intent, but the nurse should still be heavily punished for her carelessness. You have to think 3 steps ahead and see the implications of the judge or jury's poor decision. There is a famous quote, "Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding." Now, future nurses will be softer knowing that they will only face probation for their lack of carelessness.
I definitely see your point! But we don't know if she followed protocol or not. I would be really interested in knowing how she ended up with the wrong medication.
@@gamertingzzz Small mistakes are okay, but actions that lead to fatality need to be held accountable to set an example to the public. Patient count or small work force is no excuse or justification for a fatal mistake. That's up to the nurses to take it up to the hospital.
@@deborahminter6231 She clearly didn't follow something unless she can't read or that she had a heart stroke that led to her brain to think one thing over another.
There needs to be some sort of safe guard to prevent these kinds of mistakes from happening. Maybe before an injection is administered another person could check it to be sure it is right. Or the person doing it should double check themselves.
This is drummed into our heads. The so-called "Five Rights" of medication administration keeps getting longer and longer. It is still easy to drop the ball.
@@bnic9471 I'm not in the field of medicine so I didn't know about the 5 rights. I think it is a good safe guard to use. I saw that there is also the 7 rights which includes two additional precautions. Both are good practices that can keep patients safe and prevent medical staff from making mistakes.
The problem is shortage of staff to patients. I have worked somewhere where we had to have someone else check our insulin doses and it was a nightmare because you don’t have time to waste finding someone to help you and then your medication is late and you get in trouble for it because late is also a medication error.
I work in healthcare and I personally think this should be implemented. I sincerely care for my patients and I want to give them the best care. 2 or 3 people should check before admission.
Despite getting 3 year probation, her life is essentially still ruined. She'll have emotional trauma and scars the rest of her life. And who knows, she'll probably become suicidal. But hoping everyone can begin healing now.
@Hey There So you think it is okay that a young woman commits suicide making a mistake and killing a old woman. I am sure the old woman would want the young lady to live a happy life.
When you become a nurse you realize a mistake can kill someone so you accept that possibility and the immense responsibility of caring for patients. The fear you feel keeps you diligent, more like obsessed with doing everything right. But nurses are human and there are so many factors at play that can lead to errors. So many. If you’re a nurse, you know.
The fact that everyone is calling this a “mistake” is why I left the USA. Dropping your pen is a mistake. Misreading the proper dosage even, a mistake. SHE DIDNT CARE TO READ THE FUCKING BOTTLE. Are you all daft? How do you classify such a character flaw as a simply mistake?
I am glad she did not go to jail, however, I am concerned that a quarter of a million American lives are lost every year due to medical error. This needs to be investigated
Its errors not necessarily, lives. But yea I agree with the sentiment that the # is high. As someone in healthcare, its because the system makes physicians and nurses work 12 + shifts with increasing patient loads. Every question ive ever had on an interview asks about Mental Wellness, because healthcare providers are burnign out hard.
This is sad for everyone involved. I don't know the details but we all know how overworked nurses and how profit driven the medical industry has become.
This case should have never went to a criminal court in the first place! This nurse will have her nursing license, rightly so, stripped for her entire life and that is punishment enough. We are not dealing with a case of a nurse deliberately murdering a patient. This case has made made patient care worst in the United States with nurses leaving the field and many more nurses will refuse to admit a mistake now.
Negligent homicide is an act committed without intent or premeditation. It falls under these guidelines. She didn't receive jail time, only probation. She should have double checked what she injected into the patient. She hold the licence and responsiblilty for it.
Unfortunately, “Not everyone is striving to be Employee of the Month”. There are those who have no remorse or receive no corrective action for their negligence in the medical field. Thankfully she was sincere and the family was forgiving and the judge lightened the sentence. 🙏 sometimes mistakes can’t be fixed ❤️
in fact, most White people get credit for every small thing they do...its "others" who bend over backward at work, but still get fired or used as scapegoat...believe it or not..
no winner here...but those nurses are sprinkling salts on the family's wound...my highest condolence and respect to the heartwarming family, may God bless you and stay strong
The American Nurses Association says the medical mistakes happen to the best so the nurses do not need to be responsible for the mistakes? That is ridiculous.
This is ridiculous, there was NO criminal intent. Discipline or taking license away is one thing. Prison is barbaric. This is a threat to the nursing community
People make mistakes . I know it’s a very rough situation but mistakes happen all the time . I’ve seen This happened when I used to work at the drs office . I saw a nurse giving a baby a wrong vaccine . This is horrible
That's why when a blood transfusion is given there are two nurses who will check the order for the correct blood type and the right patient. Unfortunately mistakes happen because of the workload and not enough staffing. But this particular nurse the medicine she got out of the computer used the brand name of the drug instead of the generic which was stated on the order. Also the wrong drug stated that it can cause paralysis. Red flag. These days with smartphones it is easy to check the name of a drug that might very well be the brand name and not the generic.
Wow, finally true justice! It's nice to see someone get a second chance in life to get their record expunged is amazing!! What a great judge! And congrats to her!
Systems error. The EMAR and stuff dispensing systems weren't communicating so she had to override the safetys. Happens more than you might think. She grabbed the wrong med.
@@jonny87kz How do you grab the wrong medicine though??????!!!!!! And why does she get less prison time than the truck driver man who accidentally killed a person too? *Makes No Sense*
I DIDN'T WANT TO THINK THAT YET I AGREE, IF THE NARRATIVE WERE A BLACK NURSE SHE'D BE IN PRISON BECAUSE SHE WOULDN'T HAVE THE CAUCASIAN PRIVILEGES OR MONEY!!!! MY OPINION ONLY!!!! MURDER IS MURDER ACCIDENTALLY OR OTHERWISE!!!!
I"m a nurse. And med errors are usually a management issue even though it's an individual making the error. Management organizes the time of everyone on that floor.. MOH gives them the orders for how that's supposed to look. This chain of workplace roles is how a place becomes *accreditted* which is supposed to mean the standard of care is higher because its governemtn approved and government funded but government anything is always directed towards budgets and bills.. not care and healing work. I don't mind saying that their organization and the entire industry is typically more money oriented then people oriented. And residents die. I had this one temp nurse walk into a patients room with 2 separate cups of meds and she looked at both cups, the woman in the bed and asked her which one was hers. Guess what? Health care delivery KILLS people, daily.
Yes, but as a licensed healthcare provider you know very well that you are to uphold your license "do no harm". That is our oath in the medical field. You can't hide behind your organization. It's your job to make sure you are paying attention to what you are doing. I am a Licensed Mental Health provider and work with RN's and NP's all day long. Stop making excuses for one RN's poor judgement.
It’s so unfortunate for the passing of this patient . I also feel for the nurse! They are tired , over worked and are over all HUMAN! She probably made an honest mistake and she is now paying for it. Sorry for the loss of this patient as well.
It's not about forgiveness or intent. It's about FINALLY improving patient safety. 250,000 to 400,000 patients per YEAR are killed by medical mistakes. References: To Err is Human: Building a Safer Health System, Institute of Medicine (US) Committee on Quality of Health Care in America, Linda T. Kohn, Janet M. Corrigan, Molla S. Donaldson, , editors. Washington (DC): National Academies Press (US); 2000. Two Decades Since To Err Is Human: An Assessment Of Progress And Emerging Priorities In Patient Safety, David W. Bates and Hardeep Singh
Wow. So if a nurse treating my father makes a medication error and kills him she loses her license, no jailtime, and gets probation. Wow. They really gave her a slap on the wrist for killing someone.
To what extent a nurse can be charged with homicide if not making any mistake? It is so difficult to proof if it is not a mistake because they make mistakes all the time. I don't understand then.
I’m happy for her! I’ve just completed a six month journey of chemotherapy for Lymphoma! I was so grateful for the doctors and nurses who attended and took care of me that I said if I make it, I would want to be a nurse like them. She deserves a second chance! Nurses are God’s gifts to us. More concerned about the well-fare of others than their own !
It is a tremendous team effort to run a busy hospital and it is commendable how so many lives are saved compared to the errors done. It is a great responsibility to take care of patients and administer medications. Everyone who has ever been to a hospital in the middle of the busiest times would attest to that. I am glad she doesn't go to jail and i salute and hug the family of the deceased lady. We are all humans
I wrote a song for everyone. Here it goes and I hope you all enjoy ❤️: We’re gonna give the patient what’s in our hands… We’re not gonna read the label beforehand We’re stressed and overworked, the computer is a jerk We’re gonna give the patient what’s in our hands It’s the hospitals fault It’s the doctors fault It’s the legislators fault It’s the lawmakers fault It’s my grandmothers fault It’s my grandfathers fault It’s my annoying neighbors fault We’re gonna give the patient what’s in our hands.. We’re not gonna read the label because we can’t We’re running short on time, reading labels is the crime We’re gonna give the patient what’s in our hands
I'm very pleased with the way this entire case was concluded. However, my only criticism is that the nurses apology to the family felt forced not genuine.
I'm no nurse but checking 3 times should be obvious. You check when you get it you check on the way to give it and then before you give it. Atleast twice. I'd want her to spend some time in jail but not prison
There's some jobs that just are unforgiving when it comes to mistakes.. especially when it comes to costing someone their life. Sad all around, but as a nurse or someone in the health field mistakes are not acceptable.
Smh. I'm tired of some of these nurses that causes peoples death. You can't come back from death. Also if you can't pay attention to what your doing. You shouldn't be a nurse. She should of went to jail. Because that would set the tone for all nurses to make sure your given the right medication Because you will go to jail.
I remember when i was hospitalized in 2017 when I was 17 because i had depression and many symptoms but they were still trying to figure out what it was. I had a very old patient in the same room like 96 years old and a nurse mistakenly put a mast of oxygen to me and not to the gentleman,I got scared my parents ty why it was that needed and they asked when another nurse came she said wait not to the kid and she removed it after i nearly finished it all. After that i was seeing my parents going around and people talking,my parents were very very angry because they didn’t knew what that gas had inside it wasn’t supposed to be used on me and the nurse that did the mistake was saying to me to tell my parents to calm down and i could see she was in panic. My parents demanded the main doctor and after checking everything a couple of doctors came to check and said that it was pure oxygen to just give more straight so that it wasn’t harmful at all but i don’t know i was depressed that time but now i think that my parents weren’t having it they requested documents and stuff not to take them to the court. If that mask had some medication it could of turned into chaos that i might of been in a serious condition because my blood tests were healthier that a ten years old,my age also would of caused them much more consequences but yes some mistakes are sincere but some are unforgivable because are done without any control or procedure (It was in Greece)
3 years probation for a body lol wow the system is so rigged show some tears and get away with murder and how can that dude just sit there and be like oh my mother would have forgave her that's crazy
Everything else aside the victims family showed incredible forgiveness.
If they forgive her then why would they press charges against her??
@@AttilatheThrilla They probably didn't. Police are required to arrest some one who committed a crime, especially a homicide. The DA is the person who would have decided whether to go to trial or not.
Man, Im not even a medical professional, and this conviction is horrifying. We already have a severe nurse shortage, no support, overworked, treated like crap by doctors and hospitals. Wonder why there's a shortage? Its a tragedy this happened, but you overwork people like that, its gonna happen.
Victims? U mean the 75 yo woman on hospice who was supposed to die? If anybody is a victim it’s this nurse. The jurors are such goons, and the DA for even pursuing charges is gross. At least the family made sure she didn’t get jail time. Would have been moronic.
@@AttilatheThrilla there never should have been charges at all. It’s just about the hospital blaming the employee so they aren’t as liable. Basically saves Vanderbilt money. The DA or prosecutor was from Vanderbilt, it was their fault for having that med even available, a med that served no purpose for that wing. The family should have made sure they went after the hospital.
Are we ever going to look at holding that hospital accountable for flagrant violations in procedure and staffing ratios? Not entirely that nurses fault.
a lot of people that have worked at vanderbilt say that hospital is a mess. the hospital needs to be investigated ASAP
!00% All of corporate push workers to multifunction.....It is so easy to make a mistake. People are over worked, Its crazy for nurses and Dr. to work double shifts? Yet it seems to be common. I am sad for that family . My family has suffered from medical mistakes. we forgave too..
@@rebeccanater every hospital is like that. It’s all about money to them. Administration could care less. It’s such a horrible field to work in. You can save so many lives, make 1000s of peoples lives better in such a short period of time, make the hospital a ton of money, and they will burn out and throw their workers under the bus in a heartbeat. The fact this nurse was even charged was a joke. The hospital was obviously at fault. The DA was a Vanderbilt grad. Such a pos university, hope they go bankrupt.
Right, hospitals push nurses to the brink of no return. Then, a mistake is made and the hospitals throws the nurse under the buss
People don't care They rather just blame the nurse yes she made a mistake but she shouldn't be in jail the hospital's all over the United States cover work the nurses.. giving them long hours.. tye justice system is terrible
The forgiveness of the family is heartwarming even with the tragic loss of their mom
Well,that forgiveness is not bringing that woman back ,so what you mean with heartwarming?
@@ScrapPalletMan what you know about (forgiveness)nothing. It's clear that's pure negligence,stop that blindness people wake up .
@es e what you know.
@@ScrapPalletMan people, please ,wake-up,.
@es e kind of true, but still.
How is it that when a police officer shoots a person they get off. But when an overworked nurse makes a mistake she is charged with homicide, loses her career and everything.
She lost her career in the medical field because she made a terrible mistake. One that cost somebody their life. She should be relieved she got probation instead of any prison time.
It sounds like she could nurse again after probation. SHE is making the choice to quit nursing. I don't blame her. That one mistake prolly would have her second guessing herself forever more.
Because Nurses aren't in danger of getting shot or stabbed when making a decision, lmfao.
Amen!
@@Mouse_007 they're talking about the US and they're right, a yt teen can cross state borders with a weapon and kill people and get off scott free, cops can beat people and kill them and get off scott free. The system is screwed in the US.
I feel for everyone involved. As a former nurse, myself, I had to quit because of the extreme pressure, low staffing and long hours caused by the medical establishments' desire to make profits. The stress is horrible and mistakes are often made because of nurses not given enough time to make decisions & being short handed in critical situations. This can and does happen to so many hospital staff and it is heart breaking for everyone!
I have been a patient. I have seen the pressure nurses are under. They do a great job. I know they want patients to recover and go home.
I do not buy that this had any malice. The nurse is already punishing herself enough.
They need to make BETTER working conditions! It's ridiculous.
@@dinahkruppa913 Malice or intent is the difference between murder and manslaughter. She definitely committed manslaughter. Whether her actions were an accident or not, she still killed someone. The Judge was lenient, but any sentence passed down would have been deserved, you cant kill someone that wasn't in self-defense and have no legal consequences
@@eddydesir7702 accidents happen. People should not be punished for unintentionally killing someone. And if this is the law then it needs to be changed.
I do believe that.
I worked as caregiver only a few weeks and stopped as to many neglect there, I did not wanted to continue, some was mesn tho and also there def had not enough time for everyone. So for sure nurses does have lots of pressure as Doctors too.
It is very sad when errors happen and lead to someone death. Tragic for the family.
I have been a nurse for over thirty years and this is heartbreaking. We need legislation to make facilities have reasonable nurse to patient staffing ratios! There is not so much of a nurse shortage but a shortage of us willing to work in these conditions! We keep saying we can’t even take a pee break but nobody is helping us. I have retired because I can’t handle it anymore but if I could have a safe patient load I would go back!
Good to hear your comment about the low nurse to patient staffing ratios also the travel nursing and other professionals needs to be ended. The hospital administration is responsible for this crisis, they have orchestrated to make higher profits for the hospital owners and administrators.
Make education free and/or affordable and you will see a change.
Hospitals and medical care centers can afford it with what they charge.
@@HouseofTherapy2023 without travel nursing we in NYC would have had a much higher patient death toll back in the early days of March and onward in 2020 due to the "mysterious" Covid virus.
Preach sister! I am a nurse and I work exclusively with in home care with tracheostomy/ventilator patients. I refuse to work in a hospital or nursing home bc the ratio to residents/nurses are horrible.
I'd be curious to see how doctors fare when making similar mistakes. I suspect they rarely get turned in or prosecuted compared to nurses or other allied health professionals.
People don’t understand what us nurses have to deal with. Low staffing, too many patients to one nurse, long hours. Mistakes DO happen. We aren’t perfect!!
Absolutely. I never understood how someone can make millions per year throwing basketballs for a living and nurses/ mds, sacrifice
their lives to save lives for not always great salaries.
true. You can't blame nurses for making mistakes.
That's why I decided not to do nursing. lol
you are paid very very well for the job you do, and you do it willingly. so stop demanding pats on the back.
@lindus jones statistics shows that nearly 80 percent of nurses are planning to leave the profession and they don't get paid great in most countries. what are you going to do when you are hospital and there is no nurses to care for you!
My wife is a nurse, so this hits close to home. This will haunt that nurse the rest of her life.
Ive met some doctors and nurses and thats not always true we have some seriouslly messed up in the head people in our medical system just like our police system i get it there are some good people but sense the opioid epidemic we cant defend all this medical malpractice and act like its not that like the doctor perscribing horse dewormer
It may haunt all of us. Who is going to admit a mistake now?
How do you know she will be haunted for the rest of her life? She could get over it and be happy for the test of her life.
Tell your wife to find a new career punk
@@gloriaf6971 because that is such a demanding profession you have to care deeply about helping people ,She will be scared by the error and also by the way she was treated by the law...Mistakes happen everyday, its a demanding job.
I was hospitalized for 6 days and released yesterday. Nurses work so damn hard and are exhausted. They are supposed to work 12 hour shifts, but they never go home after their 12 hours. They have to update the oncoming nurse as to the status of every patient, explain their medical condition and meds to be administered. Doctors are great, but they make the diagnosis and go onto the next patient. It is the nurses who heal and interact with the patients all day, every day. Someone like me who was very scared, can be a pain in the ass. I asked so many questions and took too much of their time. For this, I apologize. I have deep respect for every single nurse, nursing assistant and every other health care worker. God Bless them all. This poor nurse made an honest mistake which anyone of us could make. Thank God for the forgiveness by victim's family.
We need to be looking at the hospital administration, the whole system that led to this. What were the work hours? What were the safeguards in place? This is a systems issue. Do not just blame it on one person!!
This isn’t a system issue or overworking issue. It takes less than two seconds to read a vial before pushing a drug into someone’s veins. She didn’t make just one mistake…she made many many many mistakes that led to the patient’s death. I use the types of drugs she gave all the time and it literally says paralyzing agent on the drug plus it comes as a powder. The drug she wanted to give comes as a liquid. Plus when you are an ICU nurse you have to go everywhere with your patient to monitor them and save their life if needed. She also failed to monitor her patient. There are even more mistakes but it’s the nurses fault not the hospital’s fault even though they’ll probably get sued because the hospital has the ability to pay out millions
Yes, if this patient had been placed on a monitor then her death could probably have been avoided. Am a retired pediatric nurse and have given Versed many times. The patient had to be on a monitor and someone had to be bedside while patient was sedated. We were also expected to know the generic names of our most commonly given drugs. Yes mistakes can happen but not monitoring her was careless.
Healthcare institutions could care less about patients. They put profits before anything else. I have worked for several companies and it's always the same story. They don't even give employees a full lunch break much less bathroom breaks. I was always rushing taking care of 4 patients in the same time slot (15 mins, in my case). It was horrible, that's why I am never going back into the healthcare field, not to mention the shitty pay that comes with great responsibilities and long hours. Talking to my supervisors and administrators was like talking to a wall. Not worth it if you ask me. Mistakes are very very very common in the healthcare field more than you can imagine. That's because they want to see a lot of patients in a day. The more patients the more money. Yet, they are always in a "budget" when it comes to staffing and supplies. This is not only present in private clinics or hospitals, but in federally qualified health centers as well.
@@AJohnson0325 ---found the person who knows nothing of what it's like to be a nurse. Lol "just read the vial, it takes 2 seconds." BAHAHHA XD
I know I would have forgiven her if it were my family. She seems like a sincere, honest lady who made a mistake. I hope that she can put this behind her at some point and have a fulfilling life.
Me too. Forgiveness is only option in this kind of case. The fact she didn't want to continue as a nurse tells a lot too.
She focused on her looks that she wasn't paying atti on what she was doing
Do you hear yourself?
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No no no get eye exam immediately, see looks FAKE,
She made a mistake that took someone’s life, I don’t think she meant it. I’m so glad the medical field is not for me.
When people text and drive and kill someone im sure they didn't MEAN to do it either. Do you think we should be as lenient there as well? Donkey
She never should have been charged. If you want to drive nurses out of the profession, and prevent others to join, the is the PERFECT way to get it done. If you want to look for the REAL villians, look at the hospital administrators, who chronically understaff nurses and absolutely create an atmosphere where a situation like this is not only possible, but likely, to happen. We need to eliminate the "non-profit" status of hospitals that pay administrators multi-million dollar salaries and where salaries are driven by "efficiency".
I couldn't agree more!
Amen!!! Administration istrators do nothing while living the high life and the health workers are over worked while struggling to pay the bills
so they should not be punished for making a mistake but the police should? double standard much.
Disagree. Nurses, doctors, hospitals, and anyone involved in medical negligence should be charged or at the very least, held accountable. If you just shrug your shoulders and release liability then these mistakes will continue to happen. Yes, healthcare in the US is bad, but there are also many terrible nurses and physicians that should be held accountable regardless of whatever we think about the US healthcare system. The US medical community creates a toxic culture from the start when students start their journey into medicine and the terrible healthcare system just accelerates bad behavior and gives an excuse for people to look the other way.
@@bobbyomari5500 Exactly! Dude, I couldn't have said it better myself.
Holy crap. Can`t even begin to imagine how you can live and work in a country that is able to do this to a nurse. Her name should never ever been made public, and the institution should take the blame. This is just insane to watch. Kind regards from a first world country.
total respect for the family there that took a huge amount of empathy and love
12hr shifts are not good in hospitals. Ppl will make more and more mistakes after 8 hr. Where is the dr at? Yep they hiding
The family are amazing people. This is a shitty situation all around. She didn't intentionally do it. But the family? Heart breaking. A life is lost that won't come back. This family is to look up to.
oh, come on she's supposed to be a professional it's not as if it were that simple, she was changing oil in a car and put in 10w40 instead of 10w30 as a nurse she should have been more careful hope she has nightmares the rest of her life it wasn't the Dr fault only she can except the blame instead she gets a pat on the wrist and told to go home and to kill another day without reprimand certain jobs you have to pay more closer attention this could have been one of your family member and it's still ok none of us are perfect regardless what that judge says she's wrong and guilty and he is also this could have been avoided there's a reason she fouled up not a mistake not paying close enough attention that's not a mistake that's willful
@@cherrylove3656 Dude you sound real vindictive and unappreciative of the realities of any kind of medical profession. Everybody makes mistakes, and in the medical field, those mistakes are sometimes fatal. Being imperfect doesn't make you an idiot, it makes you human.
@@cherrylove3656 says the uneducated mechanic who the only thing knows is his level of understanding. Don't compare your work to that level of a NURSE.. You will not keep up since the only you known is to change the oil of your car.
What if that was your mother?still amazing?what's your age?you know nothing about life, I guess you don't even know your own name.
@@LockedandLoaded777 hey nincompoop show your ignorance some more if you can't comprehend why I used mentioned that then your a dolt I probably shouldn't have bothered replying to someone who's looking for stupid things to comment on what's the matter your not getting enough attention at home get a life
Damn this is heartbreaking for everyone
Speaking as a nurse, I can't believe some of these comments! Saying an error shouldn't have been made in the first place if she did the 3 checks, mistakes happen even to the best, no one is perfect. To error is human.I guess you perfect people should go form your own perfect country so all of us imperfect people don't taint you. Saying being overworked and overtired isn't an excuse? Really, you can control your mind that well and those things won't effect you? Teach me your tricks!! If the nurse that makes the error goes to jail for an honest mistake, then there are other occupations that people should start being jailed. If someone dies due to a bacterial outbreak in a food thats recalled, the inspector at the plant better be facing jail time, along with everyone on the line, maybe even the harvesters, etc. And you got food poisoning at your favorite resteraunt? I think the chef and sou chef better be charged with something! Attempted murder maybe? Or, maybe jail the nurse even though the family says "mom wouldn't want her to go to jail or anything" and see how many nurses are left in the profession in a few years. There's already a shortage and "Join Nursing, get Jail time" won't make for great advertising!!
Sherri - not sure if you followed the entire trial, interview with TBI and the board of nursing, but I followed this case religiously. I also listened to lawyers takes on this case. She definitely didn’t deserve jail time but this was not an error due to short staffing or being over worked. She was way too complacent. She also gave every official a nail to hang her on the cross with. This never would have gone to trial if she had not waived her Miranda rights and had a lawyer with her. If you listen to all of her interviews she would not stop talking. “ do you feel that you were overworked that day?” “No not at all. I’m supported by the hospital and staff.” “ did you feel that you need an extra float nurse?” “No, one nurse can handle it.” She REQUESTED to be a preceptor to the new employee, and she also said, “ I think I killed that patient”. “I shouldn’t have done overrides, I should have checked the vial…” and on and on and on… all with no lawyer present. She ruined any type of defense because she talked too much. We as nurses need to learn to keep our mouths shut and stop talking so damn much. She may as well have handcuffed herself and told the court to arrest her.
At age 71 I experienced a class A aortic dissection. An outstanding group of surgeons and nurses helped me to pull through, which is rare with that kind of ailment. While our medical system and its practitioners might not be perfect in my case they were. I should mention that my wife remained close by watching everything that they gave me, and she did find errors from time to time.
@@stevemccarty6384 good to have family with you
@@Salem-yy5wn I didn't follow the entire trial and from what you said, she should have kept her mouth shut! How could you not know that??
@@stevemccarty6384 It is always good to have family with you and patients should should always remain vigilant in their healthcare. There is nothing wrong with questioning the doctor or nurse, if something looks different, say something! Because people do make errors, like you said, and when you know what your doctors orders are, you know if something is wrong and can question it.Your wife did a great job
She did 11 consequent mistakes for giving medication protocol (not one mistake) any one less mistake the patient would have been alive.
*So basically bc hospitals are almost impossible to sue bc they’re a “practice”*
*They decided to put liability on the employee that’s actively “Practicing” on the patient*
The forgiveness by the family speaks volumes as to the type of people they are, and also the type of person their mom was, because they clearly said their mom wouldn't want the nurse to be punished, I also feel very sad for the nurse for having to go through this because of the career she chose.I hope she can move on, and use the second chance she has been given to still do good and make a differeence in the lives of others
This family is incredible the fact they’re forgiving like that is just man that takes true character
I believe it was a mistake , but her training skills sucked. Especially with this big error/tragedy she caused.
Long and shifting working hours, frequently under staffed issues, constantly having to multi task for various assignments, are all part of the job. No matter how perfect you think you are, or try to be, at some point you’re going to make errors. Nurses know that their license can be in jeopardy for the slightest mistakes they might make. This is obviously devastating for both sides. 🙏🏾
Unless they're deliberately killing people in the "pandemic" with ventilators
Same applies to truck drivers. Just replace "nurse" in your sentence with long haul truck drivers.
@John Nagger Maybe RPN, but RN is 4 years with lots of clinical involvement...so no not the same. Thats like saying whats the difference between a flight attendant and janitor who cleans the plane.
@John Nagger Clearly your ex was a nurse lol.
First of all, bless that family. What a testimony to that mother. I know in my heart she did not mean to do that. I feel this was appropriate punishment. She will have to live with this all her life. I wish her well.
How you no you don’t no what’s going in peoples mind
bless the family.. WTH does that mean??.
This was a clear and simple accident. The message sent is don't report things and get an attorney before you say anything. A horrible message was sent to the healthcare community.
@@rcdowdy This is a horrible message that is being sent to people who trust their medical staff to not make horrible mistakes. A mistake does happen, and people should be held accountable for it. A police officer fires a gun instead of a taser. We hold her accountable. She goes to jail! There are far too many medical mistakes that keep happening. It seems preposterous that instead of a sedative, the poor trusting patient was given something that killed her! What the HELL? But the nursing and medical community all rush together to protect the person who made that mistake that killed a woman.
@@patricias5122 blah blah blah patricia
Sad in every way I can imagine….
Incidents like this is why I can't trust the hospitals & the staff... (staff -- because they're far too overworked, especially in the ICU units)
When my mom was in the hospital, I watched everything like a hawk! The staff allowed me to check her file, meds administered, etc.... pretty much anything & everything I needed to know.
Anyways -- it's good of the family to show such forgiveness.... 💯
I've yet to forgive the doctor that misdiagnosed my mom's cancer....
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I feel bad for the family who lost their loved one. Aside from what happened, healthcare workers work ridiculous hours. I don't know if that was the case in this case, but a lot of medical mistakes could be prevented if they did not have to work 12+ hours a day. That's inhumane. The body biologically needs sleep.
Lol sleep. That's cute. Working in EMS means literal sleep deprivation. I work 24 hour shifts and have to keep track of the rotation while asleep. So that means waking up every time a call comes in. Some nights I get some sleep but most nights it's literally sleep deprivation torture.
AND YET medical workers CHOOSE to do it day in and day out working long hours knowing it impairs their ability to provide adequate treatment. Last time i checked, nurses and other healthcare workers weren't drafted into service. You CHOOSE the job, you CHOOSE the responsibility, your CHOOSE to pay the price if you FAIL at your job and kill someone. so you can just pipe down with all the ridiculous jibber jabber.
Then more logical for hospital and medical office to arrange work staff hours so that ways people have the needed time to sleep and mentally recharged. As a patient, I want that so medical mistake can be avoided. I get that due to epidemic, staff shortage is known. But this case, it is pre-COVID.
You are correct. You can’t run a hospital like a business, but that’s how it’s done now. Also why many of us gave up on the profession. However, It’s still the responsibility of the care giver to be sure before administering any form of treatment. I would have been too cautious.
@@annat6249 unfortunately, "logical" is often times contrary to profitable. Hospitals are businesses and the admin could care less of your views on logic or the health and well being of their own staff. What's even more amazing is that hospitals RAKE in the cash, and while ideas such as yours to adjust work hours would certainly impact profits of a hospital, it wouldn't come close to shutting one down, they just wouldn't make "as much". This perfectly illustrates the amount of greed and disregard for human life that is inherent in our medical system.
Most people don't even realize: It is all about intent. She did NOT intend to harm the patient.
True but this was gross negligence at best. I wouldn’t want her as my mother’s nurse.
@@c00mgoblin oh, 100%. Not defending her at all. Just reading some of the comments was the only reason I posted. People just fail to realize with the law it is all about intent. That’s all.
So what..patient still died..i know lots of ppl who didn't intend to do wrong and are still paying the price.
@@lilikaramirez1848 Simply stating the legality of it all. No one asked for your challenge B/C one wasn’t being thrown out. Read the room.
Hospital should be held accountable for low staffing resulting in overworked employees
Human error is now criminal? Damn!!
Always was! The law traditionally has charged error differently than first degree murder.
As a former surgical intensive care nurse who made a near-fatal medication error, my hope is that RaDonda finds a way to forgive herself for the error that occurred. While she holds direct responsibility, the system around her has failed her as well. Forgive yourself, RaDonda.
God's blessing to everyone involved. I am a retired Nurse and I can see how easily mistakes can happen even with all the check systems in place. Nurse are stretched beyond belief! They are hero's. The beautiful mom and the family will truly be blessed for showing forgiveness in such deep heart break. The nurse you can tell is a loving person and has a good heart. Like she said, this will stay with her forever. Praying for healing for everyone. I know your mom is in heaven very proud of ya'll.
Then the police in Uvalde should also be sentenced for making the wrong decision to go in right away and kill the shooter. That mistake cost kids lives!
I'm so pleased with the family forgives her, because of "That's What My Mom Would Want" said her son.
Start putting nurses in jail, and no one is going to want to be a nurse. That simple.
Who else will be responsible? If in your hands is the life of a person you should be accountable.
She literally admitted to doing wrong. Did she intend to ? No but what about if someone did intend to will they just claim it was a mistake ?
I didn’t not follow this case closely. I have had several long stays in the hospital and currently have a friend that has been hospitalized since August. Nurses are the backbone of the hospital and I have seen first hand how they are responsible for care for several patients and working 12 hour shifts. I am surprised more mistakes like this does not happened. This family is extremely forgiving, I pray for their continued peace.
You’re surprised that more people don’t read the medication name they’re administering? Have you ever had your IQ measured? I fear it’s quite low.
Is the facility she was working at being held responsible too? Because of COVID, in-patient facilities are hiring new/inexperienced nurses and leaving them alone on their shifts to administer and prescribe medications without anyone to help them. My friend who is a new and inexperienced nurse had made many non life threatening errors but she’s afraid it might happen one day if she stays there any longer. So she put in her two weeks and is applying for outpatient jobs. I was so stressed for her but thank god she’s leaving. The facility hired her because they were short staffed but knew the risks of hiring an inexperienced nurse and putting their patients lives on the line by making my friend work ALONE. That’s their fault not my friend’s fault.
Where's the accountability?
she was fired and lost her nursing license , this is a medical malpractice case, it was made a criminal case by the DA, the judge saw through this and gave the correct sentence.
This woman was close to serving prison time when Iv seen ppl shoot and kill ppl and have charges completely dropped. This is ridiculous
She doesn't deserve prison but should never have her RN license reinstated, ever. You can't kill someone due to a lapse in judgement and expect to ever practice again.
Yeah I agree. She doesn’t need to be a nurse ever again
Just one question. Has anyone seen the series, Dr. Death, based on the true life of Dr. Christopher Duntsch?
A lapse in judgment preludes to her making a decision knowingly, she didn’t decide to use the wrong medication, it was an error made unknowingly. Still manslaughter none the less
@@deedy2858 no I haven't but is it a good show I need things to watch 😂
Yep find a new job
God bless the family. I lost my mom to s medical error. I forgive the staff. My mom would have wanted that.
This is so tragic. It can happen when drs and nurses get in a hurry or over worked.
they kill someone? give me a break god
What about judges that wrongly send people to prison? Do they receive consequences?
As a former nurse it’s very important to double check yourself before administering any form of care. When a patient is sick they must be able to trust the care giver. I feel bad for this nurse and certainly it wasn’t on purpose, but one must take serious precautions when giving any form of medication that could lead to worsening a patient’s health or death. This nurse appears to be a caring individual, but unfortunately they’re so many in the field of medicine who don’t care about the patient. This is why I choose no longer to be a part of the medical profession. I feel strongly that a precedence needs to be set, so that future medical professionals don’t make these deadly mistakes.
But if all the caring people like you leave, what does that help?
You're right nurses need to double check administration. But I think with nurses being overworked and the pandemic and the increasing strain on the healthcare system, I think its much easier said than done. Also you're expecting physicians and nurses not to make mistakes when the report clearly mentions 250,000 errors annually, its bound to happen because healthcare providers are human. And I think it could actually demotivate others from pursuing healthcare in its entirety.
Thank you! I was beginning to feel such disgust that people in the medical community rush to protect someone who may have been caring but was grossly incompetent .... and it cost a woman her life.
@@patricias5122 yeah looking at the evidence it was clear that there were so many points where she should have noticed that it was the wrong medication. She had to override so many alerts and other obvious warnings even on the lid of the ampoule.
I think that the person that needs to be blamed is the hospital because of the ratios that show many hospitals have for patients.
Screw nursing! I wouldn’t go back either after all that happened. Thanks to the victims family for showing grace to this nurse. I pray that time heals their pain 🙏🏾
No one is forcing you to go anywhere, next time you need medical treatment stay home and take care of yourself.
She killed a woman by not doing her job right. How can you grab the wrong medication ignore the warning not scan it and not stay with a patient. Pray for the person who died family.
@@mikestefka6668 go to hell hopsitals need to perform there job right what do u mean no one is forcing you. The woman had a brain hemorrage how could she stay home but if she knew there was a killer waiting for her At the hopsital she wouldnt have gone !!!!
@@mikestefka6668 hope you atay home when you get a hemoerrage what an ignorant thing to say
Why did it take her so long to say "I'm sorry". I heard her say it in her speech to the family before she was escorted from the courtroom. There is something about her, I can't put my finger on it, she doesn't seem totally sincere. I'm sorry if I am wrong, the way she appeared to me.
I admit I do not know all the facts. All I know is that I worked as an orthopedic tech years ago and I know the incredible stress and work load all nurses have to deal with on a daily basis. From petulant doctors who treat nurses as slaves, to an overload of patients. I would never be a nurse.
I am 60 & have gone through 2 near deaths and long hospitalizations. One at age 29, the other at age 53. I couldn't say enough about how much I loved my nurses, even one particular difficult one. I could never shut my mouth over this. This poor woman is gone & she leaves a family and loving nurse who grieve. I thank the judge for being just that, a judge, and doing the right thing. Prison would protect no one, nor teach/rehabilitate no one. It was just a tragedy of life.
My condolences to the family.
I am now more concerned for this beautiful young lady. He life needn't be defined by this.
Precedent? You mean accountability for dire mistakes? I hope this just makes nurses really check what they are doing. But i. Glad she didnt go to jail
Agreed!
I am a retired nurse and an instructor as well. We know that there is no nurses want their patients under their care to die. But we are human, human can make an error. Once it happened what we can do is learning from our mistakes. I'm sure that this compassion nurse she would never ever forget this evidence for the rest of her life and this will be the lesson learnt for all nurses worldwide. During and after Covid it showed that the broken healthcare system need to be fixed. God blessed the patient's family for their understanding and forgiveness. ❤
Sad situation for everyone involved. All my fellow nurses stand together!
The family showed forgiveness. What a forgiving family...My condolences to the family. This is sad.
Don't know about any other nations but in Finland nurses are held also responsible for giving wrong dosages if Dr has described so and nurse proceeds with it.
Chronic understaffing and being expected to work overtime... This goes beyond than just an individual's mistake but a systemic flaw in the US healthcare system. Here, I only see someone being scapegoated.
Sorry, but this sends a wrong message to future nurses. If you want high standards as a patient, you need to punish nurses who don't follow protocol. It's not about the victim or nurse at this point. It's clear there was no intent, but the nurse should still be heavily punished for her carelessness. You have to think 3 steps ahead and see the implications of the judge or jury's poor decision. There is a famous quote, "Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding." Now, future nurses will be softer knowing that they will only face probation for their lack of carelessness.
I definitely see your point! But we don't know if she followed protocol or not. I would be really interested in knowing how she ended up with the wrong medication.
@@gamertingzzz Obviously something should be done though...if they are so overworked they are making mistakes. These are lives not packaged crates.
@@gamertingzzz that is what I was reffering to. Shouldn't the hospitals do some policy changes.
@@gamertingzzz Small mistakes are okay, but actions that lead to fatality need to be held accountable to set an example to the public. Patient count or small work force is no excuse or justification for a fatal mistake. That's up to the nurses to take it up to the hospital.
@@deborahminter6231 She clearly didn't follow something unless she can't read or that she had a heart stroke that led to her brain to think one thing over another.
There needs to be some sort of safe guard to prevent these kinds of mistakes from happening. Maybe before an injection is administered another person could check it to be sure it is right. Or the person doing it should double check themselves.
This is drummed into our heads. The so-called "Five Rights" of medication administration keeps getting longer and longer. It is still easy to drop the ball.
@@bnic9471 I'm not in the field of medicine so I didn't know about the 5 rights. I think it is a good safe guard to use. I saw that there is also the 7 rights which includes two additional precautions. Both are good practices that can keep patients safe and prevent medical staff from making mistakes.
The problem is shortage of staff to patients. I have worked somewhere where we had to have someone else check our insulin doses and it was a nightmare because you don’t have time to waste finding someone to help you and then your medication is late and you get in trouble for it because late is also a medication error.
@@melissagallinetti9521 we have to have a cosigner to give Lantus but not Humalog lol, yet in ICU & ER there's more autonomy to administer paralytics
I work in healthcare and I personally think this should be implemented. I sincerely care for my patients and I want to give them the best care. 2 or 3 people should check before admission.
Despite getting 3 year probation, her life is essentially still ruined. She'll have emotional trauma and scars the rest of her life. And who knows, she'll probably become suicidal. But hoping everyone can begin healing now.
Good
@Hey There So you think it is okay that a young woman commits suicide making a mistake and killing a old woman. I am sure the old woman would want the young lady to live a happy life.
When you become a nurse you realize a mistake can kill someone so you accept that possibility and the immense responsibility of caring for patients. The fear you feel keeps you diligent, more like obsessed with doing everything right. But nurses are human and there are so many factors at play that can lead to errors. So many. If you’re a nurse, you know.
The fact that everyone is calling this a “mistake” is why I left the USA. Dropping your pen is a mistake. Misreading the proper dosage even, a mistake. SHE DIDNT CARE TO READ THE FUCKING BOTTLE. Are you all daft? How do you classify such a character flaw as a simply mistake?
I am glad she did not go to jail, however, I am concerned that a quarter of a million American lives are lost every year due to medical error. This needs to be investigated
Its errors not necessarily, lives. But yea I agree with the sentiment that the # is high. As someone in healthcare, its because the system makes physicians and nurses work 12 + shifts with increasing patient loads. Every question ive ever had on an interview asks about Mental Wellness, because healthcare providers are burnign out hard.
Remember that truck driver whose breaks went out without his control but got years in prison 😄 but all this lady get is probation
He was brown, of course he is going to jail for years. White woman tears are something else. Like a superpower
This is sad for everyone involved. I don't know the details but we all know how overworked nurses and how profit driven the medical industry has become.
She got off easy, compared to the black nurse, who was convicted!
This case should have never went to a criminal court in the first place! This nurse will have her nursing license, rightly so, stripped for her entire life and that is punishment enough. We are not dealing with a case of a nurse deliberately murdering a patient. This case has made made patient care worst in the United States with nurses leaving the field and many more nurses will refuse to admit a mistake now.
So agree. This is ridiculous, I don’t see how it got here. There was NO criminal intent. Why this way of handling a nursing error, now?!
Easy to say when it wasn't one of YOUR family members that was killed.
Negligent homicide is an act committed without intent or premeditation. It falls under these guidelines. She didn't receive jail time, only probation. She should have double checked what she injected into the patient. She hold the licence and responsiblilty for it.
@@crli4353 She wasn't you're family member either! The actual family didn't want charges to be brought against her.
She should have never been charged, to begin with. Hopefully, this will be overturned.
Unfortunately, “Not everyone is striving to be Employee of the Month”. There are those who have no remorse or receive no corrective action for their negligence in the medical field.
Thankfully she was sincere and the family was forgiving and the judge lightened the sentence. 🙏 sometimes mistakes can’t be fixed ❤️
in fact, most White people get credit for every small thing they do...its "others" who bend over backward at work, but still get fired or used as scapegoat...believe it or not..
no winner here...but those nurses are sprinkling salts on the family's wound...my highest condolence and respect to the heartwarming family, may God bless you and stay strong
Can you imagine living with this the rest of your life?
yes i can
Yes, that's why I exercise extreme caution. You won't catch me injecting people willy-nilly with whatever I pull out of a medicine cabinet.
The American Nurses Association says the medical mistakes happen to the best so the nurses do not need to be responsible for the mistakes? That is ridiculous.
This is ridiculous, there was NO criminal intent. Discipline or taking license away is one thing. Prison is barbaric. This is a threat to the nursing community
When you put profits over patients and your employees this is bound to happen.
People make mistakes . I know it’s a very rough situation but mistakes happen all the time . I’ve seen This happened when I used to work at the drs office . I saw a nurse giving a baby a wrong vaccine . This is horrible
That's why when a blood transfusion is given there are two nurses who will check the order for the correct blood type and the right patient. Unfortunately mistakes happen because of the workload and not enough staffing. But this particular nurse the medicine she got out of the computer used the brand name of the drug instead of the generic which was stated on the order. Also the wrong drug stated that it can cause paralysis. Red flag. These days with smartphones it is easy to check the name of a drug that might very well be the brand name and not the generic.
@@samthepoet107 the west needs more doctors
This wasn't just about a wrong medication. This was habitual misconduct.
Wow, finally true justice! It's nice to see someone get a second chance in life to get their record expunged is amazing!! What a great judge! And congrats to her!
How can wrong medication be given when two nurses have to prepare and give the medication together?🥺 I’m so sorry for this nurse😔🙏🏻
Systems error. The EMAR and stuff dispensing systems weren't communicating so she had to override the safetys. Happens more than you might think. She grabbed the wrong med.
@@jonny87kz How do you grab the wrong medicine though??????!!!!!! And why does she get less prison time than the truck driver man who accidentally killed a person too?
*Makes No Sense*
If it was a black nurse did that same thing she will get a long prison time
I DIDN'T WANT TO THINK THAT YET I AGREE, IF THE NARRATIVE WERE A BLACK NURSE SHE'D BE IN PRISON BECAUSE SHE WOULDN'T HAVE THE CAUCASIAN PRIVILEGES OR MONEY!!!! MY OPINION ONLY!!!! MURDER IS MURDER ACCIDENTALLY OR OTHERWISE!!!!
Something about HER, just doesn’t seem SINCERE!
I"m a nurse. And med errors are usually a management issue even though it's an individual making the error. Management organizes the time of everyone on that floor.. MOH gives them the orders for how that's supposed to look. This chain of workplace roles is how a place becomes *accreditted* which is supposed to mean the standard of care is higher because its governemtn approved and government funded but government anything is always directed towards budgets and bills.. not care and healing work. I don't mind saying that their organization and the entire industry is typically more money oriented then people oriented. And residents die. I had this one temp nurse walk into a patients room with 2 separate cups of meds and she looked at both cups, the woman in the bed and asked her which one was hers. Guess what? Health care delivery KILLS people, daily.
Yes, but as a licensed healthcare provider you know very well that you are to uphold your license "do no harm". That is our oath in the medical field. You can't hide behind your organization. It's your job to make sure you are paying attention to what you are doing. I am a Licensed Mental Health provider and work with RN's and NP's all day long. Stop making excuses for one RN's poor judgement.
What Electronic Medical Record System was she using?
Epic.
It’s so unfortunate for the passing of this patient . I also feel for the nurse! They are tired , over worked and are over all HUMAN! She probably made an honest mistake and she is now paying for it. Sorry for the loss of this patient as well.
Well let’s hope that if you’re ever in the hospital the nurse doesn’t check the medicine she’s giving you, since she’s so stressed and HUMAN!
@@hillarybillary21 oh I forgot you are so perfect 🤩 have a good day
It's not about forgiveness or intent. It's about FINALLY improving patient safety. 250,000 to 400,000 patients per YEAR are killed by medical mistakes. References:
To Err is Human: Building a Safer Health System, Institute of Medicine (US) Committee on Quality of Health Care in America, Linda T. Kohn, Janet M. Corrigan, Molla S. Donaldson, , editors. Washington (DC): National Academies Press (US); 2000.
Two Decades Since To Err Is Human: An Assessment Of Progress And Emerging Priorities In Patient Safety, David W. Bates and Hardeep Singh
Wow. So if a nurse treating my father makes a medication error and kills him she loses her license, no jailtime, and gets probation. Wow. They really gave her a slap on the wrist for killing someone.
Yes, because the family asked the judge not to send her to prison. Maybe your family will be less forgiving and send her to jail.
To what extent a nurse can be charged with homicide if not making any mistake? It is so difficult to proof if it is not a mistake because they make mistakes all the time. I don't understand then.
Yeah, no. Had that been my family member, I would want her to serve jail time. Bless that family that was able to forgive her so quickly.
I’m happy for her! I’ve just completed a six month journey of chemotherapy for Lymphoma! I was so grateful for the doctors and nurses who attended and took care of me that I said if I make it, I would want to be a nurse like them. She deserves a second chance! Nurses are God’s gifts to us. More concerned about the well-fare of others than their own !
❤️
It is a tremendous team effort to run a busy hospital and it is commendable how so many lives are saved compared to the errors done. It is a great responsibility to take care of patients and administer medications.
Everyone who has ever been to a hospital in the middle of the busiest times would attest to that.
I am glad she doesn't go to jail and i salute and hug the family of the deceased lady. We are all humans
I wrote a song for everyone. Here it goes and I hope you all enjoy ❤️:
We’re gonna give the patient what’s in our hands…
We’re not gonna read the label beforehand
We’re stressed and overworked, the computer is a jerk
We’re gonna give the patient what’s in our hands
It’s the hospitals fault
It’s the doctors fault
It’s the legislators fault
It’s the lawmakers fault
It’s my grandmothers fault
It’s my grandfathers fault
It’s my annoying neighbors fault
We’re gonna give the patient what’s in our hands..
We’re not gonna read the label because we can’t
We’re running short on time, reading labels is the crime
We’re gonna give the patient what’s in our hands
I’m happy we live in a time we’re the courts can analyze all details and come up with the best solution that suits everyone
I'm very pleased with the way this entire case was concluded. However, my only criticism is that the nurses apology to the family felt forced not genuine.
I'm no nurse but checking 3 times should be obvious. You check when you get it you check on the way to give it and then before you give it. Atleast twice. I'd want her to spend some time in jail but not prison
Did anyone else read the headline, "Former nurse sentenced to death..." I couldn't click fast enough...I was like.."WTF!?" lol
There's some jobs that just are unforgiving when it comes to mistakes.. especially when it comes to costing someone their life. Sad all around, but as a nurse or someone in the health field mistakes are not acceptable.
Unfortunately they happen and all of us make them. Everyone doctors, nurses, respiratory therapist etc.
Everyone is so forgiving online but I wonder if it would be different if it were your daughter or your son or spouse..... sad all the way around
Smh. I'm tired of some of these nurses that causes peoples death. You can't come back from death. Also if you can't pay attention to what your doing. You shouldn't be a nurse. She should of went to jail. Because that would set the tone for all nurses to make sure your given the right medication Because you will go to jail.
Why WOULD she serve prison time?? It was a mistake.
I remember when i was hospitalized in 2017 when I was 17 because i had depression and many symptoms but they were still trying to figure out what it was.
I had a very old patient in the same room like 96 years old and a nurse mistakenly put a mast of oxygen to me and not to the gentleman,I got scared my parents ty why it was that needed and they asked when another nurse came she said wait not to the kid and she removed it after i nearly finished it all.
After that i was seeing my parents going around and people talking,my parents were very very angry because they didn’t knew what that gas had inside it wasn’t supposed to be used on me and the nurse that did the mistake was saying to me to tell my parents to calm down and i could see she was in panic.
My parents demanded the main doctor and after checking everything a couple of doctors came to check and said that it was pure oxygen to just give more straight so that it wasn’t harmful at all but i don’t know i was depressed that time but now i think that my parents weren’t having it they requested documents and stuff not to take them to the court.
If that mask had some medication it could of turned into chaos that i might of been in a serious condition because my blood tests were healthier that a ten years old,my age also would of caused them much more consequences but yes some mistakes are sincere but some are unforgivable because are done without any control or procedure
(It was in Greece)
I really hope she sues the hospital for defamation of character
3 years probation for a body lol wow the system is so rigged show some tears and get away with murder and how can that dude just sit there and be like oh my mother would have forgave her that's crazy
“250,000 Americans die from medical errors “ 😱