Here's Why The Jeep Wrangler is Now the Worst.

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  • Опубліковано 21 лип 2023
  • I think the Jeep Wrangler is now the worst SUV you can buy. Let me show you why it's now the worst car to buy in my opinion. Everything from how they're priced to how they're technically something that I'm just not bringing into my home.
    Sure they look great, but this Jeep Wrangler review will tell you why to avoid these cars.
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  • @sneakycat67
    @sneakycat67 4 місяці тому +50

    "if you put the top on wrong it leaks" really? id of never guessed

    • @ToastyNugg
      @ToastyNugg Місяць тому +1

      Next hes going to tell us that the engine doesnt work if you take out the spark plug

  • @Greetings666
    @Greetings666 Місяць тому +24

    this video makes about zero sense

    • @xxBLKSNXxx
      @xxBLKSNXxx Місяць тому

      Indeed. Wranglers are fine. I’ve owned them my whole life. Dude acts like vehicles overall dont have issues.

  • @GenshinTravel-mf4dx
    @GenshinTravel-mf4dx 8 місяців тому +48

    I think the excellent resell is the whole point of getting a wrangler. I had a 2019 Rubicon which I only lost $5K after 3 years, then a 2022 4xe Sahara which I traded for another car with a lost of another $5K because of the $7500- tax credit. A BMW for the same price would probably be closer to $15,000 in depreciation.

    • @PierceYo
      @PierceYo 2 місяці тому

      over here in Quebec the resale value has completely imploded. I made a couple extra payments and was just about afloat on my purchase, now am 12000underwater since 2023. In my case doesn't matter because we are keeping it til it blows up.

    • @user-wg3wj6ur9z
      @user-wg3wj6ur9z Місяць тому +1

      The BMW should run 15-20 years though, a Wrangler made now- 10 if you are lucky.

    • @rickbrown7287
      @rickbrown7287 26 днів тому

      ​@@user-wg3wj6ur9z
      Thanks to fiat engineering.
      Ive still got the first Jeep I ever bought. It's a '99 Cherokee xj.
      It's got over 375,xxx miles on it and still runs GREAT with only a couple minor problems.
      (new radiator, heater core, crankshaft position sensor, 2 alternators and a new front clip thanks to my son. 😂)
      I've owned 7 different Jeeps. 4 are currently owned still.
      They all have been FANTASTIC vehicles. 😎👍

  • @henrikhkarpynskyi8712
    @henrikhkarpynskyi8712 7 місяців тому +38

    After daily driving JK since 2012 with almost no issues - I end up getting 4xe (my son still drives this JK). There is no logical explanation for it - but in the jeep I feel most comfortable, like everything just in place for me.

    • @rustychain9518
      @rustychain9518 2 місяці тому +1

      Yup, this guy strikes me as someone who wants to be a Wrangler guy buy he just isn’t and there’s nothing wrong with that. I’ve worked at a Jeep dealership since 1985 and have owned a CJ5, CJ7, YJ, TJ, JK, and now driving a JL. I get asked what I think of Wranglers all the time and I give my honest opinion then I tell them to drive one because they’re not for everyone…this guy is an example of who they’re not for.

    • @cricketmonster1000
      @cricketmonster1000 13 годин тому

      I’ve owned 3 jeeps 97 14 and a 20 14-20 both got a death wobble under 100k the 20 at 10k miles the 97 with 50k original miles was broken down once a month jeeps are some of the most unreliable pos junk cars on the road and the numbers are there to back it up glad yours is “ok” but they suck and aren’t nearly reliable enough to daily

  • @sonnywhyte3010
    @sonnywhyte3010 8 місяців тому +31

    Love my Jeep, owned a 2002,and now my 2023 Willy’s. love it!!
    Regular maintenance and your good 2 go.
    Jeep for Life!👋

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  8 місяців тому +4

      Ice. I had a 4.0L TJ back in the day with the manual and loved that one too

    • @andymckane7271
      @andymckane7271 4 місяці тому +1

      Amen! Drive it with respect. Don't abuse it. Give it regular services, lubricants, filters, and coolant. I was sixty-four when I purchased my JK Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon. I still have the same Jeep twelve and a half years later. Yes, I do drive off the road. Unlike back when I started driving Land Rovers (the "series" vehicles) in 1964, I no longer fly through the air or do other foolish things with my cars that would destroy or wear out any motor vehicle in one or two year's time. Andy McKane, Maunaloa, Hawaii.

    • @KubanKevin
      @KubanKevin 4 місяці тому +2

      Current JTR 6 speed owner here. Best vehicle I’ve ever owned. Never fails to make me smile.

    • @indridcold8433
      @indridcold8433 Місяць тому

      I have had my TJ since late 1996. It was sort of a concept at the time of what could be. A lot of the features actually made it to the production models later. But, I got a great deal on the because she had been on display for about a year. For awhile, I had the only yellow TJ with Canyon rims, 30x10.5 R15 BF Goodrich all terrains, stainless tube bumpers, leather steering wheel, unique cloth pattern seats, and top half door sliding windows. I think in 2000 or 2001, the yellow and canyon rims, became an option and my Jeep was no longer unique, except for my vent under the windshield frame. Today, the RMS Stargazer is heavily modified but still daily driven and loved more than any person. I will never part with her.

  • @alanzapanta7254
    @alanzapanta7254 6 місяців тому +33

    Very unbiased.. Perfect! A great review of a destroyed Jeep lol.

    • @geoexchange12
      @geoexchange12 4 місяці тому +5

      Is this video satire and I just don't find it funny? "Look at all that stuff underneath that could leak" "Caps that just pop off randomly" (looking at a totalled Jeep with heavy front end/engine damage).

  • @larrymartin3439
    @larrymartin3439 7 місяців тому +21

    Mark, have a 2002 wrangler with a 4.0 5 speed. Love it!.Did have a rebuild after 271,000 miles. Also bought a 2017 wrangler sport. Love them both. True Jeep people are a devoted group, much like a family. One of the few group of people that will wave when you pass them. Much like bikers. Sure they have their flaws but what auto maker does not, even Toyota. Most people I talk to love their Jeeps. Their love is true.

    • @user-wg3wj6ur9z
      @user-wg3wj6ur9z Місяць тому

      that is not the same jeep as the junk made now.

  • @hughb5092
    @hughb5092 10 місяців тому +20

    Mark, as previously mentioned, the compound at my place of employment is the home to many Jeeps, the most vehicles of any car brand (200 employees) The owners are very cult like in their devotion, perplexing because they are always commiserating with each other over their endless breakdowns. Nevertheless, their love is absolute!

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  10 місяців тому +1

      I believe you are right

    • @bluemouse5039
      @bluemouse5039 8 місяців тому

      Cult like Jeep owners that ignore all the obvious shortcomings of their vehicles that other people can easily see such as the horrible build quality and reliability, poor road characteristics, underpowered and over priced, noisy, poor gas mileage but will insist anybody criticizing Jeeps as money pits just don't get it and a Jeep is the best vehicle ever are just like Democrats that defend Joe Biden's job performance.

    • @andymckane7271
      @andymckane7271 4 місяці тому +1

      My 2012 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon has never broken down. Aside from the failure of its navigation system in the first year of ownership, it has not had any other problem. I have owned it since new. Andy McKane, Maunaloa, Hawaii.

  • @nicholasriehle6711
    @nicholasriehle6711 10 місяців тому +13

    As a Jeep Wrangler owner I can save I’ve experienced some of these issues, I bought a used one at 75k miles. After the first year my TIPM went out and an oil pressure sensor that was luckily covered under warranty. It also has leaky seals near the driver side door so whenever it rains I have a puddle water. After the second year at 100k miles my oil pressure sensor went out again and my power windows quit working as well as the running lights. Wranglers are a lot of fun but more issues than I’d like to deal with.

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  9 місяців тому

      They are great whe. There are not issues, but between that…..

    • @roadwarrior114
      @roadwarrior114 9 місяців тому

      The last good Jeep was the TJ.

    • @HardyHarz
      @HardyHarz 3 місяці тому +1

      At 100k any car will start having issues. If you’re not off-roading, then a Wrangler isn’t a very practice vehicle.

    • @MegaSourPatch
      @MegaSourPatch 2 місяці тому

      what did you expect buying a used vehicle at almost 100k miles?

    • @dmxg6701
      @dmxg6701 2 місяці тому +1

      @@HardyHarz ever asked a Toyota landcruiser owner? 😂 I see these cars sold with more than 700k km

  • @Edwin6932
    @Edwin6932 4 місяці тому +3

    I am a proud owner of a 2020 ( Got brand new), Willys Package Jeep Wrangler that I got after owning a 2007 Wrangler for 12 years. The vehicle never had any issues, so I got a new one. The customer service is top-notch, and they take care of their customers. I agree that the Wrangler is expensive, and it should be more affordable.The vehicle is meant for one thing, and that is off-road; if you don't plan to do that or live in an area with lots of snow where a 4x4 is necessary, the cost will not make sense. I do live in an area where 4x4 is necessary, and I feel great in my Wrangler. There is nothing like a Wrangler.

  • @danoesq2
    @danoesq2 3 місяці тому +4

    Just convinced me to buy a 2023 Rubicon Gladiator.

    • @xxBLKSNXxx
      @xxBLKSNXxx Місяць тому

      Go for it. I’ve owned jeeps my entire life. This guy is just a fool.

  • @arthurhanus4347
    @arthurhanus4347 25 днів тому +3

    Wranglers are never be cheap. I will take a Wrangler over any crappy BMW or Toyota. Its a Jeep thing, I'm not sure you're going to be able to understand.

  • @Gunnyfelker
    @Gunnyfelker 7 днів тому

    So do you have a recommendation for something better? Im looking for 24mpg, high clearance, front & rear lockers. Thx

  • @andrewthompsonuk1
    @andrewthompsonuk1 10 місяців тому +8

    I have always seen the Wrangler as a blank canvas where you upgrade it how you want it before you use it. I am not sure if there is any part on it where you cannot buy a better upgrade part aftermarket.

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  10 місяців тому

      It is the upgrade special for sure

    • @andrewthompsonuk1
      @andrewthompsonuk1 10 місяців тому

      Even those door handles look like something that you throw away once you have fitted nicer aftermarket ones.

    • @user-wg3wj6ur9z
      @user-wg3wj6ur9z Місяць тому +1

      engine. the engine on jeep is bleh.

  • @diseld7956
    @diseld7956 10 місяців тому +9

    In Canada yes , what's cheap in Canada???? Go to USA price falls ridiculously, people can't even afford electricity bill on Canada

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  10 місяців тому +8

      Canada is a real mess these days in every way

    • @charlesjackson1700
      @charlesjackson1700 10 місяців тому

      ​@@ECPPJustin Trudeau is terrible!!

    • @diseld7956
      @diseld7956 10 місяців тому +5

      And new carbon tax gonna increase everything in Canada , I think we are paying for fart tax in Canada,?

    • @tripleseven8361
      @tripleseven8361 Місяць тому +1

      YUP!!!

  • @myk1_sp
    @myk1_sp 10 місяців тому +17

    IMO, Jeep Wranglers really started to go downhill after the TJ (1997-2006) since they removed the 4.0 inline 6.
    After that, they started to try and make the Wranglers into family vehicles and make them really cheap.

    • @Canadian_Gamer
      @Canadian_Gamer 10 місяців тому +6

      plastic fantastic

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  10 місяців тому +1

      Yes for sure I had a 4.0 I. The TJ and a manual gearbox were OK but they did go downhill

    • @largol33t1
      @largol33t1 7 місяців тому +2

      Now they think they're Range Rovers and demand at least $49-55K for one. Ridiculous.

    • @sonicmoore6196
      @sonicmoore6196 3 місяці тому

      @@largol33t1I know right? 😂 Everybody is copying Range Rovers nowadays LOL

  • @rickbrown7287
    @rickbrown7287 26 днів тому +1

    I'll keep my Wrangler tj.
    '05 4.0 6 speed.
    Bought it 6(?) years ago with 65,xxx miles on it.
    With the mods that i have done to it ive got MAYBE $20,000 in it. That includes what i paid for it.
    (lift,bumpers,winch,tires and wheels, lights, ect.)
    Ive put it up against a Rubicon Wrangler, if i remember it was a 2021(?) and my Jeep did everything the rubi did.
    Iam ABSOLUTELY sure mine will still be in the road when these new "Jeeps" are heading to the scrap yard.
    Thank-You fiat engineering.

  • @tman4915
    @tman4915 10 місяців тому +6

    I might get a lot of hate for this but I am a Mopar/ Chrysler fan. I will say YES they do have issues. Not everyone has Toyota money and likes Toyota. I find if you buy a Chrysler product new maintain it and don’t abuse it they will last a reasonable amount of time IF you take care of it. If you look into a used Chrysler have it checked most people who buy these cars don’t take care of them and rag the hell out of it. Chrysler is a cheap car brand but they are average for reliability. I know many who have and had Chryslers. They’ve had issues but nothing to outrageous. Friends mom worked for Chrysler and bought a new Chrysler town and country had over 230k miles still ran great and everything was original it was a rust bucket living in the rust belt it ran great until it was rear ended totaling it.

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  10 місяців тому

      That’s a win and many people do get a lot out of them

  • @blaakrose
    @blaakrose 10 місяців тому +5

    Jeep seems to hold value no matter how old it is. The late 90s early 2000s Cherokee go for a few thousand as well.

  • @KubanKevin
    @KubanKevin 4 місяці тому +2

    I’ve had four of these. All manuals. All new. 4.0 YJ, 3.8 JK 2D, and 3.6 JTR. Never had an issue. The problem is buying them used after the previous owner put it through hell, cleaned it, and dumps it on you to deal with and blame Chrysler for every issue. The electrical issues on the JL can all be pretty much prevented by either ensuring your aux battery is healthy or doing a bypass and going with the genesis kit. The only thing I agree with you is their price is out of control. But that’s why all the good dealers offer extra deep discounts on these and Gladiators. No vehicle is going to withstand abuse and not charge you for it in some way or another down the road. And if you think the new 4Runner and Tacoma are going to outlast this, have a look at the tundra so you can see how Toyota’s turbocharged adventures are going.

  • @jamestabor587
    @jamestabor587 10 місяців тому +9

    Mark, another fantastic video. My wife has our family 2017 wrangler unlimited for 4 years now. We bought very luckily right before the super sky high prices. Wow man I can’t tell you how spot on you are. ( I am a 2013 bmw x5 n63 owner so I do know reliability) oil filter housing that fails immediately, upper oil pan gasket leaking, timing cover leaking, water leaks from the door seals and roofs. Door hinges rust and after you replace them just rinse and repeat every 2 years

    • @jamestabor587
      @jamestabor587 10 місяців тому +2

      And of course I forgot of the battery shorting issue with no warning at all

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  10 місяців тому +2

      Thank you very much for watching and yes I owned a TJ back a bunch of years ago and I do get the allure but they are big money now and the quality and features do not come surate

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  10 місяців тому +1

      Yikes

  • @GenshinTravel-mf4dx
    @GenshinTravel-mf4dx 9 місяців тому +3

    "I used to own a 2019 JLU Rubicon, but it had some serious steering issues, so I decided to trade it after two years of driving. Thankfully, I managed to trade it with just a minor loss of $5K for my pre-ordered a Ford Bronco which I didn't pay over msrp. Additionally, I bought a 2022 4xe Sahara, which drove incredibly well and smoothly just like many SUVs (No, not Lexus like).
    If off-roading isn't your thing, those 2023 models are still a fantastic value, especially since you can normally get them few K below MSRP, and if it's a 4xe, you save an extra $7500. Combining this with their good resale value, owning a Jeep with a warranty provides a unique driving experience.
    Personally, I tend to switch cars every few years, so I've learned the importance of choosing vehicles with strong resale value. This lesson became evident back in 2000 when I bought my second car, a Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited, which cost over $35,000 new but only fetched a little over $8K when I sold it in 2006."

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  9 місяців тому

      Exactly resale is something to seriously considet

  • @DrSmurffen
    @DrSmurffen 4 місяці тому +2

    I had a 2013 dodge charger SXT with 165k miles and only ever had a problem with the alternator being recalled and replaced for free. Other than that it lasted me 6 years before I finally traded it in. Sometimes I guess it’s luck of the draw and how well the driver takes care of it

  • @TimG--
    @TimG-- 10 місяців тому +6

    Best value vehicle out there. Standard too

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  10 місяців тому +4

      The biggest win in owning a Jeep is resale value as they tend not to deprecuate

  • @ringoheywood3255
    @ringoheywood3255 2 місяці тому +3

    Is this guy an executive with toyota?

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  2 місяці тому

      No

    • @xxBLKSNXxx
      @xxBLKSNXxx Місяць тому

      Probably. He seems to be very anti Wrangler. Owned them my whole life and never an issue. This guy is just clueless.

  • @azmedz
    @azmedz 10 місяців тому +49

    Honestly after owning a dodge charger. I will never have any faith in any Chrysler product they make trash

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  10 місяців тому +10

      Junk

    • @BT-zw2ix
      @BT-zw2ix 10 місяців тому

      Only the engines made in Windsor, Ontario Canada are good, the rest of the car (Tranny+electronics) are junk

    • @Canadian_Gamer
      @Canadian_Gamer 10 місяців тому +7

      I owned a 2014 Fiat Abarth brand new. Put 40k on it before it started to fall apart, sold it for 9 grand. Chrysler Fiat is garbage.

    • @Phi.D.888
      @Phi.D.888 10 місяців тому +5

      Dodge has been making trash vehicles since the early 2000's

    • @Canadian_Gamer
      @Canadian_Gamer 10 місяців тому +5

      @@Phi.D.888 They took us ALL for a ride in the 90’s as they had produced some truly awful vehicles wrapped in very attractive sheet metal. The Intrepid, the 300M, the PT Cruiser, the Avenger while looked sexy (in period) were all trash.

  • @antonioc3768
    @antonioc3768 7 місяців тому +5

    The price in Australia is also outrageous both for new and used !

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  7 місяців тому

      I know, those prices are nuts

  • @nikkishinez
    @nikkishinez Місяць тому +2

    I hope this was meant for fun and giggles, because you did succeed in making me laugh. I do not believe all the negative stuff you said about the jeep though lol

  • @DRACOFURY
    @DRACOFURY 4 місяці тому

    *Are they good on ⛽*
    It's either this or A 67 Lincoln Presidential

  • @coloradomallcrawlers
    @coloradomallcrawlers 5 місяців тому +2

    I’m all for being critical of a manufacturer, but you just don’t get it. Modern Jeep as a manufacturer deserves some criticism for sure. However, it’s pretty clear you have never lived with a wrangler. Some of what you said wasn’t even true. The stuff that was true is because it’s a different kind of vehicle. It’s only analog is the new Ford Bronco. To your credit, I’ll say, when I was 15 years old, I was just like you. No way did I want a Jeep, I wanted a used RX7. I didn’t understand Jeeps back then either, but now I own 3 of them (2 wranglers) and have owned 8 Jeeps (7 wranglers) total over my driving life. I have driven some pretty amazing vehicles in my life, but I’ll never not own a wrangler. Granted they’re not for everyone, but I bet if you own one and really use it, you’ll see why they’re awesome (also, no reliability issues and I have owned at least one of each gen wrangler for 10 years at a time… my JL is currently 2.5 years into that 10 year test).

  • @larrys9879
    @larrys9879 7 місяців тому +11

    I love Jeeps, but I agree that they aren’t designed to be daily drivers. My Jk Wrangler was purchased with it’s sole purpose being a toy. As far as being a fun vehicle to own, drive, customize, and modify a Jeep would be hard to beat.
    I live in the Deep South. Jeeps are very popular and in high demand here. Jeep ownership,at least in the Deep South, has become a status symbol. It’s common to see a Jeep Wrangler in the driveway of expensive homes in upper class neighborhoods. Jeeps are a common sight in high school parking lots too.
    Jeeps aren’t practical, but they are a lot of fun to own, drive, and customize. Jeep owners are part of a community of Jeep owners that acknowledge one another, with the famous “Jeep Wave”, when they meet each other on the road. Owning a Jeep means becoming part of a community.

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  7 місяців тому

      They are fun and I owned a TJ years again and loved the manual tranny with the 4.0L but things have changed a lot and prices have also gotten out of control unjustifiably

    • @larrys9879
      @larrys9879 7 місяців тому

      @@ECPP Technology is largely responsible for the significant price increases. Additionally, a lot, if not most, Jeep owners want some level of luxury in their Wranglers too. Leather seats, high quality sound systems, blind side warning, LED lights, advanced off road technology, automatic transmission, etc. All of that comes at a price.
      All of that noted, a new basic sport model Wrangler is available for around $34,000. It’s my understanding that a regular new family SUV average
      Price is around $47,000. Cars, even preowned, are just plain expensive. The price of a PU Truck cost more than, or at least close to the price of a new Rubicon.

  • @Roamingeast
    @Roamingeast 8 місяців тому +3

    The beauty of a Jeep is that they hold their value. period. You spend 46k on a jeep, ride it for 5 years, until its literally a rattling death trap with rust and dings, and can still sell it for almost 2/3rds the cost of a NEW one. its one of the few vehicles that are almost in investment. Add to the fact that worn out jeeps still have an aesthetic appeal and you can see why they demand value. Put a worn out 1995 YJ out for sale and it gets snapped up instantly.

  • @user-ht6bk7zw1g
    @user-ht6bk7zw1g 24 дні тому +1

    2011 JKU zero issues, super fun, didn’t buy it for comfort or gas mileage

  • @TheKingOfInappropriateComments
    @TheKingOfInappropriateComments 10 місяців тому +6

    I rented a wrangler one time and it had a soft top. The soft top blew off because it couldn't latch securely. Luckily nobody got killed. I was never so glad to get rid of a rental in my life. It was misery to drive on the highway too.

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  10 місяців тому +1

      Exactly nonpower

  • @shasdam002
    @shasdam002 Місяць тому +2

    So the lack of depreciation is a bad thing? Sure, Jan.

  • @reaality3860
    @reaality3860 9 місяців тому +5

    I've owned several 4x4s. The best Jeep was a 1954 M38-A1 Army jeep. I paid $600.00 for it.

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  9 місяців тому +1

      Exactly

  • @samtaylor8734
    @samtaylor8734 4 місяці тому +1

    This is the first video I've watched of yours and I gotta say you have next to no idea what you're talking about the whole time.

  • @dirtbeard108
    @dirtbeard108 8 місяців тому +1

    recently traded in my 2013 for $4500 less than I paid for it new.

  • @jayhendrix7343
    @jayhendrix7343 2 місяці тому +1

    I dreamt of a new Rubicon just last summer until i rolled up on the dealers lot to find a $73k pricetag.
    Dream turned into reality fast as i left the dealer. 😂

  • @bobmald13
    @bobmald13 8 місяців тому +1

    I’ll give all the problems except resale value. You can sell it and get most of your money back after several years. Why wouldn’t I buy one and basically have a free car for 3-4 years.

  • @horizontbeskrajneinovacije6440
    @horizontbeskrajneinovacije6440 10 місяців тому +1

    could you do e review on...Audi S5 Sportback 3.0 TFSI V6 S tronic

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  10 місяців тому

      yes

  • @user-lu2cg9fo8i
    @user-lu2cg9fo8i 10 місяців тому +4

    plastic and again and again plastic

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  10 місяців тому +1

      Way too much

  • @tdhmoose
    @tdhmoose 10 місяців тому +3

    For the last two months I have been watching most videos about buying a Wrangler Rubicon. However, the last week or so there were videos like this one, and Face Book forums about problems, but people still buy them and it looks cool. Now, the dream is over. I might keep my 2011 Grand Cherokee, I don't want problems. Thanks for the video.

    • @humorss
      @humorss 10 місяців тому +1

      I went to check out a 24 rubicon 2 door, price is outrageous vs 23.

    • @tdhmoose
      @tdhmoose 7 місяців тому

      @@humorss Edit: I just got the Wrangler and having a ball.

  • @royomonigho7075
    @royomonigho7075 10 місяців тому +2

    @ECPP: "...its ludacris."
    Ludacris be like, "yo, I heard my name. They called my nane on TV"
    😂

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  10 місяців тому

      Haha

  • @indridcold8433
    @indridcold8433 Місяць тому +1

    I have driven a Wrangler TJ as a daily driver since I bought one new in late 1996. It became a highly modified Wrangler TJ in 2001. Then it became and extremely modified Wrangler TJ in 2011. The RMS Stargazer now has 446,000 miles and climbing. She is still my daily driver and my adventure vehicle.
    Legacy Jeep died in 2006. Everything after that is just a shadow of what Jeep used to be. Some say legacy Jeep died in 1986. But the Wrangler YJ was designed by AMC. Thus, I can not agree with the 1986 year of legacy Jeep's demise. The Wrangler TJ was the last traditional Jeep, "Universal." It has lots of AMC designed parts. The Wrangler JK has absolutely no AMC originated parts at all.

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  Місяць тому

      Some great points indeed

  • @lonesomecricket7721
    @lonesomecricket7721 10 місяців тому +3

    “Look you just have caps that pop off randomly” 😂🤣 Good stuff

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  10 місяців тому

      Haha, yes it was intended to have some humour but I think most people missed it

    • @lonesomecricket7721
      @lonesomecricket7721 10 місяців тому

      @@ECPP I totally get your humor.

  • @392Hemi
    @392Hemi 2 місяці тому

    I worked at the Chrysler Electronics Plant in the USA that they closed in 2010 and moved all the Electronics to China & Mexico and that is when the Quality started to go down... and every time the company changes owners it suffers more..

  • @Lomax-gc6hc
    @Lomax-gc6hc 4 дні тому +1

    Besides this video - Jeeps do not have a great reputation for “Trouble Free” service.
    I love that they are solid axle front and rear - but beyond that - the “Easter Eggs” are just a gimmick (over done). For a similar off road vehicle INEOS Grenadier has solid front and rear for a few grand over the wranglers top build but far better “Purpose Built”

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  4 дні тому

      Well said!

  • @groosbro1
    @groosbro1 10 місяців тому +23

    My coworker bought a Wrangler hybrid in 2021, paid almost $90K!
    I laughed and laughed and laughed...

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  10 місяців тому +4

      I know right? I just saw an add here locally that they had a loaded Wranglet listed for 135000 and I was like, what the heck?

    • @charlesjackson1700
      @charlesjackson1700 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@ECPP..I bet you really thought... WTF 😮 !!!

    • @Canadian_Gamer
      @Canadian_Gamer 10 місяців тому +1

      @@ECPPpeople will finance anything these days, sadly. 100k for a Wrangler is embarrassing.

    • @andrewthompsonuk1
      @andrewthompsonuk1 10 місяців тому +4

      90K why not buy a say 20 k used one and spend 70k upgrading it. Then you could have something very special indeed.

    • @dlj1285
      @dlj1285 10 місяців тому +1

      Holy smokes. Bananas.

  • @RJohnson-nh6ud
    @RJohnson-nh6ud 4 місяці тому +3

    What company do you work for, GM, Ford, Toyota or what?

    • @17valley
      @17valley Місяць тому

      He’s crying about Jeep, so I’d bet Yota.

  • @raddad8495
    @raddad8495 20 днів тому +1

    Liston to this A Hole! Sounds like he’s talking about an ex girlfriend! 😂🤣

  • @Vincent-ke5zn
    @Vincent-ke5zn 10 місяців тому +5

    I would rather have an FJ Cruiser than a jeep

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  10 місяців тому +3

      Those are reliable

  • @toyotadude6771
    @toyotadude6771 8 місяців тому

    They squeak alot over bumps, sounds really raggedy, especially when you put lifts and bigger tires. I HATE vehicles that squeak and rattle

  • @FluffyHawk13
    @FluffyHawk13 8 місяців тому

    Just bought a 07 wrangler 3.8L engine. I'll never buy a pentastar engine. My 3.7L powerstroke 08 grand cherokee had 210,000 miles and still going!

  • @rg237g8
    @rg237g8 5 місяців тому

    What do you suggest for a different choice????

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  5 місяців тому

      Toyota 4Runner

    • @user-ht6bk7zw1g
      @user-ht6bk7zw1g 24 дні тому

      Jeeps are not for everyone. Can’t be soft and own one

  • @jcfc8197
    @jcfc8197 4 місяці тому

    I buy a used 2018 Jeep Wrangler JL Sport S 2door with the technology package in 2020 and I only paid $27k. It only had 21k miles. I did buy Rubicon take off wheels and tire for $800. I’ve had zero issues. I am very happy with it. I also own a 1990 Grand Wagoneer that is 98% restored. Just needs new interior carpet, and new tail pipe.

  • @tariklaarej2259
    @tariklaarej2259 Місяць тому

    You saying one of your argument is the price (you side with the buyer) and then next minute you say the car doesn’t depreciate (you side with the buyer again) bro that’s a positive point that the vehicle doesn’t depreciate

  • @healthyamerican
    @healthyamerican 8 місяців тому +1

    i know you are trying to make a point, but im wondering if you are just being comical...showing a fluid leak under a head on collision

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  8 місяців тому

      Trying to bring some humour which I think most did not catch my sense of it, lol. Thanks for asking, and have a great weekend

  • @nohelymartinez1857
    @nohelymartinez1857 9 місяців тому +3

    As a current jeep Owner, I am loving my 2017 Jeep sure I had one major leak oil and it got fixed she runs well. Sure I spent money to fix her but that's what happens to all cars from wear and tear. I drive my Jeep constantly as a home health nurse. I don't see any issues with my Jeep I do recommend to buy a used one and go from 2017 and down, the more newer models do come with some issues. I only owe 24K as of today and left the lot at 42K so yeah not bad and gas is not that expensive for me to fill her up. I Love my JEEP!!!

    • @toyotadude6771
      @toyotadude6771 8 місяців тому +1

      Youre already making repairs on a 2017? Lol

    • @nohelymartinez1857
      @nohelymartinez1857 8 місяців тому +2

      @@toyotadude6771 yeah and I am able to afford all my repairs as a home health nurse I use my Jeep a lot duh things are bound to start getting old from wear and tear thanks for your ignorant comment. 🤣

  • @CoolTies
    @CoolTies 2 місяці тому +1

    2015 JKU with 110K km and the main issue was buying a battery and not knowing it had to be registered with the onboard computer. Causing electrical glitches in the main display and accessories shutting off. Otherwise, it's needed standard servicing, which costs far less than anything from Europe and most Asian cars. Engine is smooth and quiet at idle. Good pulling power. It's been great! Just don't get a Jeep to tow.

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  2 місяці тому

      Yes indeed

  • @tripleseven8361
    @tripleseven8361 Місяць тому +1

    I'm up here in Canada...Just a couple of days ago, a purchased a brand new JLU Rubicon...(MSRP was about $82K plus 15% tax)...in Montreal, and was in the process of driving it home to New Brunswick, (through the state of Maine)...Half way there, on a minor, 2 lane highway, in the middle of Maine, I had to stop due to a railroad crossing signal...
    In order to save gas, I put the vehicle in park and shut off the engine...It wouldn't re-start, and road-side service wasn't able to help me...I was stuck, blocking my lane, for about 2.5 hours...Luckily, I found the Key FOB solution, on the internet, in which you physically use the Key FOB to push the starter switch/button, and it actually started...
    Now, my wife wants me to return the vehicle, to get our money back, but I don't think that's possible up here...
    Regardless of the outcome, I'll definitely be keeping my 2006 (owned since new) TJ Sport...

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  Місяць тому

      The old TJs especially in the 4.0L was a pretty decent unit. I had one and it was good, but things have changed

    • @tripleseven8361
      @tripleseven8361 Місяць тому

      @@ECPP Indeed...The new Jeeps are basically a quarter century, ahead of the TJs, and there's a lot of PFM, (Pure F'n Magic) in the new Wranglers...Amazing electronics , until stuff starts to fail!

  • @jeffkoon6790
    @jeffkoon6790 Місяць тому

    I have a small list of real issues I could give you with my 21 Wrangler Sahara Altitude 6speed manual trans, the issues you brought up really are not as concerning. It depends if you understand what you are buying. Fluid leaks don't seem to be an issue, the caps popping off isn't a thing, the one you pointed to on the wrecked jeep is for the washer fluid, being it got smashed in an accident that would be normal. The material used now is steel, aluminum and magnesium. aluminum is used for the doors however in a large collision all the panels are gonna be trashed whether they are thick steel or not. As for the death wobble, that has been an issue with 4x4s for years, between track bars, drag links, sway bar links, stabilizers, control arms and all the ends, these things need checked and maintained regularly and that goes for any 4x4, they are not for everyone, go buy a Subaru if you don't want maintenance. Here are a few things I do find unacceptable, considering the cost.
    1. The clutch plate recall from three years ago has yet to be remedied...not even a replacement part available, temp fix was the program they installed to turn down torque from the engine to the clutch/trans...wtf, who wants a turned down Jeep Wrangler.
    2. Corrosion/blistering on doors and hinges, prob due to aluminum not being prepped correctly. absolutely WTF
    3. Uconnect system sucks, issues with climate control module having a delay upon start up. electrical components/updates might be the issue. either way wtf

  • @kycklingpajen
    @kycklingpajen Місяць тому +1

    i cant tell if he is serious or joking.

  • @Canadian_Gamer
    @Canadian_Gamer 10 місяців тому +3

    Product of Fiat Chrysler my friend… STEER CLEAR.

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  10 місяців тому

      We agree!

  • @jerrybesch8532
    @jerrybesch8532 2 місяці тому

    My friend has a 2012 jeep wrangler has over 50,000 miles and there's already a hole under the driver side door. I will say if you want a good jeep buy one before 2007 from a non salt area.

  • @robrees8382
    @robrees8382 10 місяців тому +2

    Thanks Mark for diagnosing the problem in my 2010 Chrysler Town and Country. The TIPM.

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  10 місяців тому +1

      You are very welcome

  • @racerguy6979
    @racerguy6979 4 місяці тому

    I don’t know I have a 2017 and I haven’t had any issue at all yet. Other than the fuel mileage but that is obvious when you buying it. I’m super happy

  • @jeffreyhall838
    @jeffreyhall838 7 місяців тому +2

    And they are not very well made either, I have a couple friends that bought brand new ones the last few years and they have both been a pain in the ass back and forth for warranty repair

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  7 місяців тому

      Exactly it’s a poorly build Jeep product

  • @Phi.D.888
    @Phi.D.888 10 місяців тому +3

    You got the 2 worsted quality auto companies out there and they merged together.. you understand the rest 🤣

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  10 місяців тому +1

      Yes

  • @TigerNgtMare
    @TigerNgtMare 2 місяці тому

    It’s very evident that you’re a Prius lover or a ladybug Toyota fanatic.
    I have my Jeep Jl Rubicon for almost 6 years and haven’t had any issues that you have mentioned. I fact I would buy another jeep again. I find them very practical and fun to drive.
    You won't be able to comprehend it until you're able to purchase and operate one yourself.

  • @roadwarrior114
    @roadwarrior114 9 місяців тому

    Either get a TJ for $8000 or get a YJ for $5000 and learn to fix stuff yourself. Any YJ under $3000 will have either major problems or tons of little problems.

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  9 місяців тому

      True the older ones in the 4L are the only ones worth owning

  • @dlj1285
    @dlj1285 10 місяців тому +2

    The resale on these thing defy all logic though. I keep reading they are pretty much tops for it, so there is that. Not for me, but I sort of understand the appeal.

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  10 місяців тому

      Resale is ridiculously high on these for sure. I also do t get it

  • @user-wg3wj6ur9z
    @user-wg3wj6ur9z Місяць тому

    You forget 3.6 l engine issues with cams and cam phasers, blown head gaskets and the poor quality oil filter housing that will have to be replaced too!! I own one, love it...but never again,.

  • @miopera40
    @miopera40 2 місяці тому

    The 2014 was pretty good except for the oil cooler housing that melts😂 Hopefully wranglers have good after market stuff to fix their issues.
    The 2018 on rust either galvanic on the aluminum side or cheaper on the frame metal used, my 2014 looks still like new underneath.

  • @oscarrodriguez3891
    @oscarrodriguez3891 15 днів тому +1

    Clearly the fuel cost and price are a problem but I own a wrangler and I have zero issues with it and I own it now for 2 yrs, and bought it used. I highly disagree with your review.

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  15 днів тому

      Thanks for sharing

  • @bencaldwell7234
    @bencaldwell7234 13 днів тому +1

    I hade a 02 overland Cherokee with a 4.7 liter v8. The thing would climb a mountain side in the snow mud whatever just in all wheel drive not even putting it in 4 wheel options. Rarely experienced a vehicle with that good of off road capability comparable to a 4 runner or a Suzuki samari something of that nature. With that being say the junkiest electrical components ever! Sun roof stuck open, electric windows stuck down, fuel pump, fuses going out constantly,air bag sensors. I mean an electrical nightmare. Looks like things haven't changed with Chrysler over the years still can climb a mountain but junk electrical issues. I doubt i buy one again and its just sad because the thing was a tank

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  12 днів тому +1

      Yes that all sounds about right and in the same family, we owned a Dodge Durango that had good power and a beefy ride but electrics called out, a rattle 4.7L V8 engine. Especially when cold, and we lost the AC compressor and throttle position let go creating a bunch of hunting

    • @bencaldwell7234
      @bencaldwell7234 11 днів тому

      @ECPP I remember the Durangos they were a tank just the pitely shit that makes you pull your hair out to the point it's like this thing has got to go :) I feel your pain it sux just gotta know when to cut your loses and move on

  • @jameseroh6544
    @jameseroh6544 5 місяців тому

    You talk about Wranglers and Gladiators like they are a fashion accessory like a BMW, Lexus, or other gadget filled vehicle.
    My wife and I have bought several new vehicles this century. Most have been Ram trucks. I bought a '23 JLU Sport S Altitude back in August. Runs great, and gets decent fuel economy. 18mpg around town, 28mpg on the highway. It cost $49k, it is the most expensive vehicle that we have ever bought. But the prices have increased dramatically on all brands in the past 4 years.
    I have an old '96 ZJ, project vehicle. That one is for the more challeging off roading for now. I may spend another $40-50k over the next 5 years toget the true vehicle I want. But Wranglers and Gladiators are unique vehicles. And most people adapt them to their liking for off roading in their chosen environment. The Bronco might be a good vehicle in 4 or 5 years. But for now, the Jeep makes a good errand and adventure vehicle.

  • @jgg204
    @jgg204 3 місяці тому +1

    In 6 yrs, MSRP on Wranglers has increased by 48.6%. No thanks. I re-priced my 2018 JK and the 2024 JL would be $58,000+. It's comical

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  3 місяці тому

      Silliness

  • @ProfessorNPC
    @ProfessorNPC 10 місяців тому +3

    can you review kia seltos and kia sorento pleaseeeeeeeeeee

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  10 місяців тому +1

      Yes

  • @Doomzdayxx
    @Doomzdayxx 3 місяці тому +1

    I DO NOT understand how these things hold their value. They're unreliable, rolling dumpster fires. The only rational reason for me would be to lease one for 3 years, before all the problems start popping up.

    • @jeromeshockley9572
      @jeromeshockley9572 3 місяці тому

      They hold their value because the demand for JEEP Wranglers is still very high, despite the countless issues these Wranglers may have, and people are willing to pay top dollar for this style of vehicle.

  • @bobsebring2819
    @bobsebring2819 10 місяців тому +2

    Such a shame. Chrysler used to mean something back in the day. Although they have been going down hill for years. Surly, they can't expect fo fool everybody all the time? They are putting out a cheap product. Poor designs and cheap plastic parts had cost them to lose their Plymouth division. Not only that but to merge worth Fiat? Total crap from overseas (Fix It Again Tony) They still hadn't learned thier lesson when the Japanese had kicked thier butt back in the 1970's. It's one thing to put out models with a Japanese look and another to not improve the overall quality of the car. God help them if they end up as another AMC or Pontiac.

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  10 місяців тому

      Junkbthese days

  • @pujabelgian
    @pujabelgian 3 місяці тому +1

    Bought a 2 dr JK sport ragtop in 2015, manual everything..Looked after it, it's been a good vehicle. The Wrangler should have never become a luxury vehicle.

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  3 місяці тому

      True, keep it simple. So you would do that again?

  • @topvideos6166
    @topvideos6166 Місяць тому

    My advice if you don't have another car don't think to buy it.. it's a toy car more than a daily use...
    I have 3 Jeeps 2 TJ which I sold the TJs first one 2002 it's was the best from the driving experience as it's short body & the sound of that 4 liter engine the TJs are toy .. it's not the right car to be daily use as they are too bad for the fuel you can't trust that car on long trip also they have some issues with the driveshaft & weak gearbox.. but from JK after 2012.. I can say yes this is the right model .. the price..the interior much better than before.. the engine better for fuel economy..
    I have some issue with the traction control & ABS sensor which not any mechanical can fix it if he is not expert.. another issue that I have with the Cruise control which not working from yesterday I am not sure why but I think it's much better than a lot of cars on the road if you compare those issues & the cost to fix it .. I spent a lot of money to service the car as bought it used but it's deserve that service as it's will hold the value not like the older model TJ which what ever you spent you will not get the value that you spent on that model..
    who complain about death wobble they should knows what they are going to own..& how to deal with this issue.. I love the car as a toy & It's not that bad with the issues that I am experiencing especially in those days there is not a lot of options if you think to own a manual 4x4 car.. that you have a lot of fun..

  • @brentjones1765
    @brentjones1765 14 днів тому +1

    This commercial brought to you by Toyota.😅

  • @corail53
    @corail53 6 місяців тому +1

    Simple - don't buy new cars, they are depreciating assets. Buy one that has already devalued and then spend the savings on building it the way you want.

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  6 місяців тому

      New is always a losing proposition but can be good for those who cannot fix anything themselves

  • @mikahundin
    @mikahundin 3 місяці тому

    As much as I cherished my 1998 Jeep Wrangler, adorned with Ford F150 axles, a robust drive shaft, a lift kit, and more, selling it 6 years ago for only $5000-despite it being worth over $10,000 and having just around 30,000 miles on it-was a decision clouded by my growing disillusionment with the brand. Years ago, I saw the Wrangler as an entry-level, basic vehicle; simple yet capable. However, my perspective has dramatically shifted due to the mounting concerns over quality and the exorbitant costs associated with newer models.
    The issues plaguing Jeep Wranglers over the years are well-documented and diverse, ranging from serious safety hazards like the infamous "Death Wobble" to more mundane, yet equally frustrating, problems such as transmission glitches and airbag system faults. The "Death Wobble," a terrifying steering issue causing excessive shaking, isn't just a rare anomaly; it's a well-known defect affecting various models, hinting at a deeper quality control problem.
    Moreover, transmission problems have been a recurring theme, with some models struggling to stay in "park" and others lacking essential warning systems for overheating transmission fluid-a critical oversight that can lead to dangerous situations. The airbag systems haven't been spared either, with numerous recalls over the years addressing issues ranging from explosive inflators to faulty sensors.
    Noise and comfort, or the lack thereof, inside the Wrangler's cabin have only added to my growing list of concerns. Reports from fellow owners about persistent and baffling popping noises only exacerbate the feeling that the Wrangler's rugged exterior masks an underwhelming and sometimes problematic interior. One owner's experience with a 2022 model-where a troubling noise remained unresolved despite dealership interventions-mirrors the type of quality and service issues that have led me to rethink my loyalty to the brand.
    Comparing the Jeep Wrangler to other off-road vehicles in its class and price range only deepens my disappointment. Many competitors offer quieter cabins, smoother rides, and more reliable performance without the Wrangler's notorious problems. The gap between the Wrangler's iconic status and its real-world performance seems to widen with each new model year, leaving enthusiasts like me caught between our affection for what the Wrangler represents and the reality of its shortcomings.
    Reflecting on the journey with my 1998 Wrangler, it's clear that the allure of owning another Jeep fades in the face of these challenges. The Wrangler's evolution from a simple, dependable off-roader to a vehicle marred by quality issues and inflated prices is a trajectory that I, regrettably, find myself wanting to disembark from. The spirit of adventure that once defined the Wrangler experience now seems overshadowed by the prospect of dealing with noise, discomfort, and reliability issues that detract from its legendary capabilities.

  • @charliegorsuch161
    @charliegorsuch161 6 місяців тому

    New ones are 🗑️ I had a 99 Jeep XJ with the 4.0/AW4 transmission that lasted well over 300k miles before I sold it

  • @69sound81
    @69sound81 7 місяців тому

    Yeah, wranglers are a pile of trouble. But you dont buy them as a luxury car and the price you pay ain't for luxury. You pay that money for branding, capability off road, no depreciation and the ability to modyfy the hell out of it without any mayor flaws (well, none that have not been adressed by the aftermarket).
    So they dont drive as good as any vehicle north of 40k in the market, they don't offer any luxury comparable to their price equals in the market, they tend to require more maintenance in things you would never think about in annother vehicle (door seals for instance). But, you will buy a 60k wrangler and sell a 55k wrangler after 4 years. You will be able to modify the hell put of it and still sell it for 10% loss on the total investment. You can find things for it anywhere, and for very cheap sometimes. You can have it and use it as a toy and dont worry about depreciating it even more.
    So, if yoy wanna buy a jeep just because you think it looks cool and you can spend the money it costs on a vehicle you will daily drive as a "mall crawler" then go for something else. Bronco is a great oprion for example.
    You better be out in the trail every other week for that jeep to be worth it. You better be a person of the outdoors, an overlander, go camping, fishing, biking, trekking, kayaking or very fund of the offroad motorsports world.
    It is worth it, for the right person.
    This video is like a soccer mom review on a miata. "No storage, no back seats, loud car, way too low, no place to put groceries, no place for my kids and their stuff..." or a petrolhead review on a minivan. "Too large, too heavy, underpowered, bad driving position for control, fwd sucks, engine too quiet, too much body roll..."

  • @ivanaminnevigil
    @ivanaminnevigil 2 місяці тому +1

    at 5:54 "You have caps that pop of randomly".. Dude, after that accident it doesnt look "random" to me. 😅

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  2 місяці тому

      Haha

  • @kar77orange
    @kar77orange 3 місяці тому

    I paid 80k for my pos rubicon 4xe. SUCH a pile of crap but I absolutely love it!! Plus 80k well it's really not that much money🤷

  • @CarringtonHollister
    @CarringtonHollister 10 місяців тому +4

    One word: Stellantis‼️

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  10 місяців тому

      Totally right

  • @w.e.s.
    @w.e.s. 4 місяці тому +1

    Wtf u just cut the battery cable? Lmfao

  • @Buzz48317
    @Buzz48317 День тому

    LOL...never heard of Insanely low depreciation as a reason to not buy a car

  • @tedsamuels3203
    @tedsamuels3203 8 місяців тому

    I agree, these jeep prices are ridiculous and who put the mirrors on the doors ?
    Cause, if you take doors off , you have no mirrors ? Cheap bumpers....Next ?

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  8 місяців тому

      Haha

  • @Ken-qq6gp
    @Ken-qq6gp 2 місяці тому

    Ya in Toronto Canada a Jeep Rubicon X with tax is about 100k ?
    Full lots and still only a 5k factory discount at best.
    Pathetic from the manufacturer to the dealers.
    I guess they don't care if they sell ?

  • @prodigalpilot
    @prodigalpilot 7 місяців тому

    Someone who wants what a wrangler can do does not care how they compare in price to a BMW, Mercedes or Lexus. These are not comparable vehicles...

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  7 місяців тому

      True

  • @Eddie-yc5yd
    @Eddie-yc5yd 10 місяців тому +2

    Nice toy, but it's an uncomfortable daily driver.

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  10 місяців тому

      Yes I agree

  • @user-zz3nv6hw2s
    @user-zz3nv6hw2s 7 місяців тому +1

    Older jeep..09 6 speed manual transmission.. good easy to work on....

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  7 місяців тому

      Agreed the oldies are great

  • @robsanders4213
    @robsanders4213 2 місяці тому

    The Jeep 4xe system is garbage. It rarely works in the Arizona heat. But if you get a 'normal' one they're awesome. For the record, I had a 4xe Grand Cherokee, not a Wrangler, but it's the same system. I now have a new Rubicon and couldn't love it more. And yes, I bought it to drive off road, though it will be my daily driver until I retire next year.

  • @mikelowry5012
    @mikelowry5012 10 місяців тому +2

    A lot of new cars are failing.

    • @ECPP
      @ECPP  10 місяців тому +1

      For sure