Best tip for buying a new jeep with the 3.6…..CHECK CHECK CHECK the engine oil cooler. Make sure it isn’t leaking because that’s gonna be the most common issue. Shine a light down from the top on the left side of the engine (closest to you) and see if there is a puddle of oil. If so, you’re gonna have a 400 dollar fix then and there.
S gives me hope. Mine 09 has been plaques by issues. Now my ABS module has failed at 127000 kilometers and there are none available right across Canada and they are not allowed to send one from the USA. I would never by a Jeep again.
Buying less expensive mods does not mean the vehicle was not take care of. 99% of Jeeps i see all done up are "Pavement Princesses". Guys build them up to look cool, with no intention of ever going off road. They are normally babied and meticulously maintained. You dont need top dollar mods to do that. Any one buying a Jeep to go off road knows what they are looking for...
Pavement princesses? Are people not allowed to buy cars they find interesting or fun unless they are some redneck who goes off-roading with their male friends every weekend in a very suppressed homosexuality type way
Cheaped out cause they went with rough country 😅 I've had over 10 offroad vehicles and ran rough country zero complaints performed just as good as the higher dollar lifts .. and I dont baby my jeeps
I’ve learned my lesson about not checking under a used vehicle before I buy it, bought a used Honda civic, got it home and the whole undercover was coming off. No take backs because it was purchased used…. Great video!
Same here. It just aggravates me because this dealership had to know that mine was leaking. It was on the lot for 30 days. You can't tell me they didn't see some drips underneath there because I only had it for one day and I could see drips in my driveway. I made the mistake of falling in love with it 💕 and not doing my due diligence. 🤷
This video is lowkey a lifesaver, I wish I had taken the time to find something or come across the content of a video like this before I had bought my Jeep. Spent over a year and 1/2 on repairs/waiting for part shipments. Great vid!
Thanks for the video I have a 12 jk sport and I took care of the maintenance accordingly. I have had to replaced the poorly designed oil cooler, leaking axle seals, faulty poorly designed dual stage oil pump, death wobble and replaced steering stabilizer. I reported these problems while under warranty and Chrysler/Dealer just gave me the run around until I was over the warranty. I’m sure not all jeeps are like mine. It is a really good idea to do your homework.Thanks
I have owned Jeeps of various models since 1972, most of which I purchased used with low milage. My one new Wrangler was a soft top which I regret for numerous reasons to include the dreaded front-end wobble and someone cutting through the plastic window in the back to steal stuff. The most fun was a pre-1950 Willy with no top that I explored the Southwest deserts in. When looking at any vehicle to purchase, I always want a second set of eyes, preferably with mechanical experience, to spot the good and the bad that I might not otherwise. And yes, I agree with looking at the underside first and foremost.
Good information for the new guys took me 4 years to decide on which jeep I wanted got a low mile 98 tj that had no mods been building it up ever since.
Thanks a ton for the tips. I am planning to buy a used Jeep and I will definitely look underneath the vehicle to look for signs of abuse and also leakage.
I have a 2015 2 dr sport soft top, garage kept since new. About 12,500kms on the odo.. gets annual service but not much use. It's a 2nd vehicle, or 6th is more like it. My daily driver is a van then there's 4 MCs I prefer riding to the jeep, but it is cool. 😙
I looked at wranglers online and on FB for over a year. Read forums and watched UA-cam videos. I only drove one. The one I bought. A 2021 wrangler JL sport with rubicon wheels. 21k miles turbo 2.0L. Lease return. Convertible top. Towing package. It's not my main driver. It will be used for fun and towing the atv. No power windows or locks. The towing package was more important than PW and PL.
Very good information. I bought my 2015 JKU stock with 33k miles. I now have a Metal Cloak lift, Mickey Thompson wheels and tires, and a Smittybilt tire carrier (new bumpers and winch too). I did not want to cheap out on suspension parts.
I'm looking for around that year and stock. I'm not looking to rock crawl, but some light off-roading/over-landing and rescue setup, and would rather have stock to work from when I start.
just got my Uncles 2005 jeep tj..he passed away and his brother took ownership then few months later he had for sale was offerd 12,000 for it he turned it down then my dad asked if he would sell it to me..and well he gave me the uncle nephew deal and gave it to me for 5,000 I was in tears its pretty much mint 2005 jeep tj, stock jeep hard top n soft the soft top is brand new still wrapped in the back as it has never been used yet,had a look at it and wow..its like show room shape have a book with all oil changes etc done and dates etc he took really good care of it as I will also do I will be keeping it stock..the only thing I am actually going to do is put 33's on it that it that way i dont need to lift or do any mods,,,keep it stock in the end years from now it will be worth so much more a 2005 jeep stock tj compared to a 2005 tj thats been lifted mods etc..stock is always worth more 20 30 40 years later than one done up, I owned a 1991 Mustang 5.0 in my 20's for 10 k and put 15 k into it engine etc was just a money pit..wont make the same mistake as mods lead to mods lead to mods and meh been there done that like i said tho it will always be worth more as a stock vehicle that just a fact if it 100% mint shape tho obviously, I dont take it like heavy offroading just like around the lakes n stuff to go fishing n camping
Oh no, you described me in this video.....I saw a Jeep on a premium car lot and wanted it! I did not shop around, other than knowing prices of models on the used market. I wish I had watched this first. The good news.... it was a babied leased vehicle.... one of six owned by a family. According to the salesman it was the dog transporter and never taken off road. I did look underneath for obvious dents. It does smell of dog ;)
I once bought a 2010 Rubicon jku manual transmission. It was scratched up, basic terraflex 3 inch lift, no leaks at all just very flighty steering, that was corrected by adding aftermarket control arms because it still had stock control arms with a lift.
Josh, thank you for taking the time to give us the knowledge required in making our choices. I'm so happy you list all the things we should look for when deciding on a used Jeep, and this had shed some light between there are dishonest people out there. Thank you once again
Car fax is nice but I have found multiple jeeps that we took to mechanics before we bought and they find issues not on the car fax. Have an external mechanic check it out, even if you buy from a dealership. If they won’t let you, then don’t buy from them.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with a Jeep that has scratches underneath from off-roading. When I get under the vehicle I’m looking for rust or broken parts. Drag marks just let me know it’s had a fun time.
I wish I had seen this video 2 weeks ago. I bought my 2011 Sport, 2 door, 6 speed hardtop running 33's on a 2" suspension lift from a Cadillac dealer- and got screwed. Leaking differential, leaking axle seals, gas leak. They HAD to know that these were issues just from seeing the fluids on the ground underneath. Got a decent deal on it, but 2K worth of work being done now. 😡
That really sucks my man I am sorry to hear that. If you have any other issues ( I hope you don't) let me know because a lot of times they are easy fixes at your own home for A LOT cheaper and I can walk you through it. Nonetheless, I hope its driving ok now and you are enjoying it
We got screwed too when we bought our Jeep in June. However, we absolutely love it. My husband is a wrench turner and good at figuring things out. The electrical issues are rough but fixable with a lot of research and patience.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a jeep soft top that fits snug on the back. My TJ, LJ, and JK all have had a gap at the tailgate. If the soft top is a sun rider, make sure the cable is still intact. My JK cable snapped. I have the replacement but haven’t fixed it yet.
Even if you "don't know what you're looking at," as long as you don't go off saying that, you can potentially squeeze some truth out of a salesman. If the lot personnel get nervous from you just having an in-depth look, let that be a red flag you don't ignore!
08 wrangler x unlimited from a dealer that was got at auction. It was one owner government jeep. Well-ish maintained and the interior was pristine and a winch. The underside was clean or oeaks 3:213:24
If you are particular like me, DON'T even try to by a used Jeep. I have tried for about two years. The ones that I was interested, either sold faster than I could pick up the phone, or priced ridiculously high, to almost new prices. So after two years of looking, I have resigned and ordered a new one. The only regret that I have is having not ordered it to begin with. 2017 JK Rubicon.
Thanks so much for the insite. I'm looking for my first Jeep, mostly a pavement princess. But I plan on driving throughout Mexico including beaches and mountains.
Take another person and have them move steering back and forth then you can see if steering or suspension needs work. You should reach down and pull on belt tensioner. I would expect better bolts on the control arms for 33k. And look at the track bar mount. Make sure there is no movement bacl and forth where track bar mounts to axle.
I’m sure some people regularly change the oil themselves since jeeps are easy to get under. Carfax wouldn’t see this of course. I even jack up my low to the ground ford fusion and change it.
I would say that depends on where you live or where the Jeep has been. If you’re around the city, it’s more likely that they don’t change the oil themselves. Carfax isn’t perfect by any means, but can give you a better idea of how it was taken care of. I would use it more to see how many owners there has been. Not a perfect method, but if it’s had a lot of different owners, then it could mean that it’s had a lot of issues.
Jeeps are POS that rust, break, paint falls off (literally), etc. etc. etc. etc. Buy at your own risk. Unless you know what you are doing and can afford it.
This reminds me when I was trying to trade my 1960 Rambler American Super. I was car hunting and found a beautiful Isuzu Trooper, that was super clean no tears in the seats and just well taken care of. But upon hearing east coast car, I looked at the trailer hitch as I was going to look under it and there almost was nothing left. underneath made you think original Trooper not 01 Trooper... it was that bad.
I had a 99 grand Cherokee. Gave me lots of issues. I am not mechanically inclined to own such a high maintenance vehicle. Sold it for 400 dollars. Expensive to repair heads were bad so I cut my losses
I bought a Jeep JK a few months ago. I was aware to avoid Jeeps that were domiciled in Northern States and Coastal areas, due to rust issues. I was focused on Jeeps with less than 60,000 miles, garaged in a Southern state, not modified and no evidence the Jeep was taken off road or involved in any accidents. I examined over 500 Jeeps for sale on line before I found what I was looking for. It was a one owner, locally owned, that was in showroom condition inside and out. It’s Maintenance record indicated the previous owner changed the oil and filter every 4000 miles at the same dealership. I was lucky to find exactly what I was looking for.
Carfax is not 100%. My first car was a Corolla and it had a clean carfax. Any work done on a “under the table” shop will not show up. Just wanted to point that out. Another good tip is start the 3.6 and let it come to temp. Listen for the infamous tick. I’ve seen them trying to be sold with the tick 😅
I don’t understand what you mean by a cheap suspension and shocks, by Rough Country. That’s only your opinion. Rough Country has a very good reputation. That is what we run on all of our Jeeps. Never had a problem!! The cost is not cheap either. Yes, cheaper than Fox but, why pay double for just a name?
I bought a jeep with similar equipment being equal all are JL williys 2 door. Out of 3, one was off roaded as evidenced by scratches on the side and under body. I bought the one that was never off roaded. Prices were equal. I want to be the one that puts those scars 😊
Rough Country lifts are not cheap. They may be in price but not in actual usage. Im so tired of that narrative. Cheap doesn't always mean cheap and expensive doesn't always mean the best.
What’s the best ones? Been looking at some but I don’t know the difference tbh I’m trying to learn more so I can build it nice. I go camping a lot and off roading occasionally when I go shooting
If it looks well taken care of, and proof of no real abuse, oil leaks, worn or broken parts... as far as I am concerned miles don't matter in the decision process. But miles DO matter in the selling price. So balance it. 😉
I'm going to say that it's directly related to upkeep. In the 4 years I've had my '13 JK I've more than doubled the miles that were on it at delivery so I feel I can attest. Go full synthetic. 🇺🇲🛻
I wish i found this video dooner. I bought a 2011 jeep wrangler 2 door. Jk series. From a family member. The jeep has problems. All it seen was highway. The jeep has leaking transpan, front dif, front driver side axel seal, weak sway bar links, weak suspension, and a weak steering stabilizer and i have to also replace the rear track bar... so much money. But it's gonna be worth it in the end. Hopefully. I dont plan on going off road. Im gonna use to pull a small trailer. Maybe some fun down some old shallow two tracks, and dirt roads. But that about it. I got because its like a fiat. But taller and bigger and more fun to drive.
Here's another pro tip. Don't buy a jeep with an Angry Grill (Angry Girl). This is a useless "look at me" mod, and you won't get a warm reception from the real jeep crowd. Many Jeep owners I know will withhold the jeep wave from jeeps with an angry grill. Also, at least out west where I live jeepers withhold the jeep wave from street modded jeeps, like those with 20 inch or larger wheels and overly wide street tires. While there are many who modify their jeeps in this way (Angry Girls with big "rims" and wide ass street tires), real jeep entusiasts frown on these sorts of mods. #lockersbeforelightbars! My apologies if I offended you.
Honestly CarFax means very little. I was in an major accident, I got car fixed out of pocket and it was never reported. Car Fax pulls from reports that are filed. If a report is never filed, no one ever knows
True, but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t look at it. It can tell you a lot more than just that or at least give you an idea of what it might have been through even though it’s not perfect.
I prefer teraflex for suspension. I think they make a great product, and stand behind it. Ran their 4.5 inch kit on my first JK, their 2.5" kit on my last JK as well....
Hey Josh, Thanks for very informative video. If possible show video on what are the things that must not be accepted at any price and what things may be acceptable even when not in perfectly prestine condition?
I was looking at a 2011-2013 jeep liberty jet any information I need to look out for or is it a good jeep plz help I need to know as much as I can before I buy one. Thanks
Known for gaskets leaks. Get underneath and check for fluid leaks at rear main and oil pan.... also known for window regulator failures, so be sure to check all power windows for correct operation. Otherwise... the normal stuff, like wear and tear, drivability, weird noises. Those kinda things. Good luck!
I’m watching this in November 2022. In my area of Oklahoma I’m seeing a lot of used Wranglers and Gladiators from 2020. Is there a particular problem with the 2020 models that I should be looking for?
Warranties only last so long. And even if you get a full warranty, if you do not make a wise choice to begin with, ex. Making sure no foreseeable issues, it may always be in the shop using that warranty. Please keep in mind, regardless of what the dealer tells you, warranties will not cover any modifications.... so if you get a Wrangler pre-built, you could still have issues ... so yeah, being smart about a used purchase is always a good idea. 😉
@@JeepingForBeginners thank you do much for that information. So jeep offered a 7year warranty, now I know to ask if any mods were done. Thank you so much for your advice. I once had a sales man drop 5 grand on a 2016 Rubicon. I was alone shopping at the time, as tempted as I was to accept, something in my gut told me it was just too good to be true. 🤔😔
Warranties don’t cover preexisting conditions. Any claim turned in during the warranties first year is likely going to be challenged by the warranty provider. Warranties are expensive, often more expensive than the problem would be to fix. Personally, I don’t buy warranties.
I want an old used jeep so bad but i know nothing about the technical stuff!!! It scares me! I dont want it breaking down and i have no extra money to fix anything that goes wrong. But i have a dog now and in need of a car now and i wish i could get a wrangler so badly.
I im looking at a jeep right now and want to know if the rear backing plate is a problem i should be Worried about Reoccurring or just a one or should I keep looking at other jeeps
Wranglers are definitely not for everyone thats for sure. Most people buy them for just the cool factor of it and thats when the cheap mods get added, just to look cool. My last trail outing winter run, I was going up a hill and couldnt make it so I slid back wards the guy behind me didnt stop at the bottom of the hill so i ended up distroying his amazon bumper 😂😂 Before the run started he was proud to have gotten it and it was a day old lol his happeness didn't last though 😂😂, i did end up paying him to have it replaced by a better bumper
JEEP stands for (J)ust (E)mpty (E)very (P)ocket. I own a Jeep Renegade Trailhawk 2017. It was made in Italy! It is the best Urban style Jeep that is Trail Rated!. It is a small SUV that can go off road! It can and wili go anywhere a stock Wrangler Sport will go! In style and in comfort. You should look at some Jeep Renegades on your channel ! Forget about the Jeep Compass. They are made in Mexico!
Correct, Jeeps are Harleys with 4 wheels. They have gone BK a few times over the years but kids will be kids. Cheap plastics, thin metals, shitty ride but hey...."it's a Jeep thang". I saw so many kids who worked for me with these bottomless pits of despair plowing their meager cash into fixing them (not fixing them up....simply fixing them to get on the road again). Oh well.
Based on experience, working in a jeep service department, the 3.6 may have its issues, but it's tried and true. More common, also means better long term parts support. The 2.0 is to reliant on a turbo for power, and I've seen to many fail because of it. So for long term, overall cost of ownership, the 3.6 is my choice
scratches and dents from off road? if you are rock crawling in the northeast you are going to get them- you are not abusing the vehicle- you are using it. i agree on the leaks , suspension and other tips- but scratches and dents on a 4wheel drive? you want a mall crawler then...
What’s the maximum mileage you would consider when buying a Wrangler JL? I wanted something below 40k miles. Seeing a lot of them in the 50-60k mileage range. Is that acceptable? (I plan on keeping the car for a long time)
12 to 15k per model year is average. Higher is okay if price is lower, but lower mileage means higher price. Ultimately, if you maintain it, and it was maintained, it doesn't matter as much
@tradde11thats where I would look at the carfax. If it’s had multiple owners with low or high mileage, then you can assume that it might be an unreliable vehicle. Especially if the sale dates are close together. Might not be a reliable way of looking at it, but I’d rather play it on the safe side rather than buying a money pit.
Dude, I've been in the game a long time. 10 years at jeep as a tech and 3 in the aftermarket and fab side. Smittybilt is cheap. It's the rough country of body parts. Also shopping for a used jk, note the 3.8 vs the 3.6. The 3.6 will leak from the oil filter valley. Also 3.6 ticking. I can make a whole video rebuttal to this.
Fortunately, this video was not actually made for you. It was made for those with zero knowledge or very little when it comes to experience. Hence jeeping for beginners. I'm glad you can see through some of the things we see daily, infact I'm sure it helps you to have a better rig and a better sense of what you need. And if you need to have the absolute best, and name brands, thats also okay. However, just like the online forums, we are not here to put anyone down, nor are we here to show off that we may have had more experience then others. We are here to share. So if the content does not benefit you, that's perfectly okay. 👌 if you can gain some use, then great! At the end of the day, my opinion, from my years of experience of working for FCA, and such, may be different then yours... and that's awesome. But it's not a reason to hop on, and try to prove your the bigger ego on campus. I may simplify things, sometimes over simplify, but that's the point. To keep it simple. Anyways, thank you so much for watching, glad the video made you think, cause that was the real point! Have a great night! See you on the next one! 😉
Best tip for buying a new jeep with the 3.6…..CHECK CHECK CHECK the engine oil cooler. Make sure it isn’t leaking because that’s gonna be the most common issue. Shine a light down from the top on the left side of the engine (closest to you) and see if there is a puddle of oil. If so, you’re gonna have a 400 dollar fix then and there.
Oil will also leak from the base of the oil filter if the 0 ring wasn't intalled properly, easy to do.
part is 75.00 for the aluminum replacement, and these vehicles are easy to work on, not sure where you're getting 400.00 for that..
2010 Wrangler original owner and well maintained. 360 000km and running well!
Wow, that answers my question than. I saw a 2013 wrangler.
I Just bought a wrangler 1990 with 177 000 milles , my first one as a project
S gives me hope. Mine 09 has been plaques by issues. Now my ABS module has failed at 127000 kilometers and there are none available right across Canada and they are not allowed to send one from the USA. I would never by a Jeep again.
Hey would you please let me know if you have heard of the hillside assist and abs brake issue before?
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Buying less expensive mods does not mean the vehicle was not take care of. 99% of Jeeps i see all done up are "Pavement Princesses". Guys build them up to look cool, with no intention of ever going off road. They are normally babied and meticulously maintained. You dont need top dollar mods to do that. Any one buying a Jeep to go off road knows what they are looking for...
Yeah thats sad honestly
Pavement princesses? Are people not allowed to buy cars they find interesting or fun unless they are some redneck who goes off-roading with their male friends every weekend in a very suppressed homosexuality type way
I don’t I never owned a vehicle before I have no idea what to look for. You should avoid using blanket words like “anyone”.
@@matthewb9955 Are you buying a jeep to go off road?
As a dealer tech for jeep, you are 100% correct. Carfax also doesn't mean squat
Cheaped out cause they went with rough country 😅 I've had over 10 offroad vehicles and ran rough country zero complaints performed just as good as the higher dollar lifts .. and I dont baby my jeeps
I’ve learned my lesson about not checking under a used vehicle before I buy it, bought a used Honda civic, got it home and the whole undercover was coming off. No take backs because it was purchased used…. Great video!
Same here. It just aggravates me because this dealership had to know that mine was leaking. It was on the lot for 30 days. You can't tell me they didn't see some drips underneath there because I only had it for one day and I could see drips in my driveway.
I made the mistake of falling in love with it 💕 and not doing my due diligence. 🤷
U can sue for them for them selling you a lemon #lemonlaw😏
Finally a video that shows everything in detail, not only talking. Need it this, thank you
This video is lowkey a lifesaver, I wish I had taken the time to find something or come across the content of a video like this before I had bought my Jeep. Spent over a year and 1/2 on repairs/waiting for part shipments. Great vid!
Thanks for the video I have a 12 jk sport and I took care of the maintenance accordingly. I have had to replaced the poorly designed oil cooler, leaking axle seals, faulty poorly designed dual stage oil pump, death wobble and replaced steering stabilizer. I reported these problems while under warranty and Chrysler/Dealer just gave me the run around until I was over the warranty. I’m sure not all jeeps are like mine. It is a really good idea to do your homework.Thanks
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I have owned Jeeps of various models since 1972, most of which I purchased used with low milage. My one new Wrangler was a soft top which I regret for numerous reasons to include the dreaded front-end wobble and someone cutting through the plastic window in the back to steal stuff. The most fun was a pre-1950 Willy with no top that I explored the Southwest deserts in. When looking at any vehicle to purchase, I always want a second set of eyes, preferably with mechanical experience, to spot the good and the bad that I might not otherwise. And yes, I agree with looking at the underside first and foremost.
Good information for the new guys took me 4 years to decide on which jeep I wanted got a low mile 98 tj that had no mods been building it up ever since.
Thanks a ton for the tips. I am planning to buy a used Jeep and I will definitely look underneath the vehicle to look for signs of abuse and also leakage.
I have a 2015 2 dr sport soft top, garage kept since new. About 12,500kms on the odo.. gets annual service but not much use. It's a 2nd vehicle, or 6th is more like it. My daily driver is a van then there's 4 MCs I prefer riding to the jeep, but it is cool. 😙
I looked at wranglers online and on FB for over a year. Read forums and watched UA-cam videos. I only drove one. The one I bought. A 2021 wrangler JL sport with rubicon wheels. 21k miles turbo 2.0L. Lease return. Convertible top. Towing package. It's not my main driver. It will be used for fun and towing the atv. No power windows or locks. The towing package was more important than PW and PL.
Very good information. I bought my 2015 JKU stock with 33k miles. I now have a Metal Cloak lift, Mickey Thompson wheels and tires, and a Smittybilt tire carrier (new bumpers and winch too). I did not want to cheap out on suspension parts.
Way to go Julia! 👍
I'm looking for around that year and stock. I'm not looking to rock crawl, but some light off-roading/over-landing and rescue setup, and would rather have stock to work from when I start.
Just got a 2014 Rubicon it is mostly stock it is joining my 1995 YJ with a 4 inch lift. Both are great. Plan to do an engine swap from 2.5 i4.
This is why I bought my Jeep new. I know everywhere it has been, and I have done every mod myself.
not to mention the 10k depreciation the moment the front tires left the lot after signing 😆
@@ardascholar5289 not the best vehicle to be commenting about depreciation…
@@austinhutchings why? Am i underselling it? 15k then
just got my Uncles 2005 jeep tj..he passed away and his brother took ownership then few months later he had for sale was offerd 12,000 for it he turned it down then my dad asked if he would sell it to me..and well he gave me the uncle nephew deal and gave it to me for 5,000 I was in tears its pretty much mint 2005 jeep tj, stock jeep hard top n soft the soft top is brand new still wrapped in the back as it has never been used yet,had a look at it and wow..its like show room shape have a book with all oil changes etc done and dates etc he took really good care of it as I will also do I will be keeping it stock..the only thing I am actually going to do is put 33's on it that it that way i dont need to lift or do any mods,,,keep it stock in the end years from now it will be worth so much more a 2005 jeep stock tj compared to a 2005 tj thats been lifted mods etc..stock is always worth more 20 30 40 years later than one done up, I owned a 1991 Mustang 5.0 in my 20's for 10 k and put 15 k into it engine etc was just a money pit..wont make the same mistake as mods lead to mods lead to mods and meh been there done that like i said tho it will always be worth more as a stock vehicle that just a fact if it 100% mint shape tho obviously, I dont take it like heavy offroading just like around the lakes n stuff to go fishing n camping
Oh no, you described me in this video.....I saw a Jeep on a premium car lot and wanted it! I did not shop around, other than knowing prices of models on the used market. I wish I had watched this first. The good news.... it was a babied leased vehicle.... one of six owned by a family. According to the salesman it was the dog transporter and never taken off road. I did look underneath for obvious dents. It does smell of dog ;)
I once bought a 2010 Rubicon jku manual transmission. It was scratched up, basic terraflex 3 inch lift, no leaks at all just very flighty steering, that was corrected by adding aftermarket control arms because it still had stock control arms with a lift.
Josh, thank you for taking the time to give us the knowledge required in making our choices. I'm so happy you list all the things we should look for when deciding on a used Jeep, and this had shed some light between there are dishonest people out there.
Thank you once again
Car fax is nice but I have found multiple jeeps that we took to mechanics before we bought and they find issues not on the car fax. Have an external mechanic check it out, even if you buy from a dealership. If they won’t let you, then don’t buy from them.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with a Jeep that has scratches underneath from off-roading. When I get under the vehicle I’m looking for rust or broken parts. Drag marks just let me know it’s had a fun time.
Right!? Yut!
Agreed!
Sure, it might have had a fun time but it can also mean you’ll be spending a lot of extra money on repairs from the fun time it had.
I wish I had seen this video 2 weeks ago. I bought my 2011 Sport, 2 door, 6 speed hardtop running 33's on a 2" suspension lift from a Cadillac dealer- and got screwed.
Leaking differential, leaking axle seals, gas leak.
They HAD to know that these were issues just from seeing the fluids on the ground underneath.
Got a decent deal on it, but 2K worth of work being done now. 😡
That really sucks my man I am sorry to hear that. If you have any other issues ( I hope you don't) let me know because a lot of times they are easy fixes at your own home for A LOT cheaper and I can walk you through it.
Nonetheless, I hope its driving ok now and you are enjoying it
We got screwed too when we bought our Jeep in June. However, we absolutely love it. My husband is a wrench turner and good at figuring things out. The electrical issues are rough but fixable with a lot of research and patience.
@@SwiftestTailor easy to work on, for the most part. I am handy and actually enjoy most of the repairs.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a jeep soft top that fits snug on the back. My TJ, LJ, and JK all have had a gap at the tailgate. If the soft top is a sun rider, make sure the cable is still intact. My JK cable snapped. I have the replacement but haven’t fixed it yet.
Axle seals leaking are something to look for to
My 2016 Jeep drivers axle seal failed at 55,000..
Even if you "don't know what you're looking at," as long as you don't go off saying that, you can potentially squeeze some truth out of a salesman. If the lot personnel get nervous from you just having an in-depth look, let that be a red flag you don't ignore!
08 wrangler x unlimited from a dealer that was got at auction. It was one owner government jeep. Well-ish maintained and the interior was pristine and a winch. The underside was clean or oeaks 3:21 3:24
If you are particular like me, DON'T even try to by a used Jeep. I have tried for about two years. The ones that I was interested, either sold faster than I could pick up the phone, or priced ridiculously high, to almost new prices. So after two years of looking, I have resigned and ordered a new one. The only regret that I have is having not ordered it to begin with. 2017 JK Rubicon.
Thanks so much for the insite. I'm looking for my first Jeep, mostly a pavement princess. But I plan on driving throughout Mexico including beaches and mountains.
This is super useful information I see people asking this question all the time!
I just bought a lifted15 Sport. It has over $10K in upgrades. It's all in great shape.
Take another person and have them move steering back and forth then you can see if steering or suspension needs work. You should reach down and pull on belt tensioner. I would expect better bolts on the control arms for 33k. And look at the track bar mount. Make sure there is no movement bacl and forth where track bar mounts to axle.
Thanks for that lil educational video!! I’ll try to remember all this when I get around to buying my best Jeep!! 😉 👍
Very helpful video! I only drive stick shift (my preference) so it’s much more difficult to find the one 🤪
Dang I wish I had that problem, I’m trying to find a jeep with automatic transmission and all I can find are stick shifts 😔
I’m sure some people regularly change the oil themselves since jeeps are easy to get under. Carfax wouldn’t see this of course. I even jack up my low to the ground ford fusion and change it.
I would say that depends on where you live or where the Jeep has been. If you’re around the city, it’s more likely that they don’t change the oil themselves. Carfax isn’t perfect by any means, but can give you a better idea of how it was taken care of. I would use it more to see how many owners there has been. Not a perfect method, but if it’s had a lot of different owners, then it could mean that it’s had a lot of issues.
@@Coonazz791great insight 😀 thanks
been looking for months - I have yet to find a used jeep that DOESN'T have rust.
May want to change the area your looking in, perhaps willing to venture south or west... will help lessen the rust issue
*texan laugh*
Jeeps are POS that rust, break, paint falls off (literally), etc. etc. etc. etc. Buy at your own risk. Unless you know what you are doing and can afford it.
@@JeepingForBeginnersnot true humidity is crazy Deep South
This was suuuuuuper helpful. Looking to buy my first Jeep and this is a game changer. I know exactly what I will be doing the next time I go look.
This reminds me when I was trying to trade my 1960 Rambler American Super. I was car hunting and found a beautiful Isuzu Trooper, that was super clean no tears in the seats and just well taken care of. But upon hearing east coast car, I looked at the trailer hitch as I was going to look under it and there almost was nothing left. underneath made you think original Trooper not 01 Trooper... it was that bad.
thank you. this is so kind of you to do for us looking when you didnt have to do nothing. alexandria
I had a 99 grand Cherokee. Gave me lots of issues. I am not mechanically inclined to own such a high maintenance vehicle. Sold it for 400 dollars. Expensive to repair heads were bad so I cut my losses
I bought a Jeep JK a few months ago. I was aware to avoid Jeeps that were domiciled in Northern States and Coastal areas, due to rust issues. I was focused on Jeeps with less than 60,000 miles, garaged in a Southern state, not modified and no evidence the Jeep was taken off road or involved in any accidents. I examined over 500 Jeeps for sale on line before I found what I was looking for.
It was a one owner, locally owned, that was in showroom condition inside and out. It’s Maintenance record indicated the previous owner changed the oil and filter every 4000 miles at the same dealership. I was lucky to find exactly what I was looking for.
Wow that great. I’m looking to buy a JL without all these crazy mods and hopefully find something like you
Carfax is not 100%. My first car was a Corolla and it had a clean carfax. Any work done on a “under the table” shop will not show up. Just wanted to point that out. Another good tip is start the 3.6 and let it come to temp. Listen for the infamous tick. I’ve seen them trying to be sold with the tick 😅
Nothing is 100%, but that doesn’t make his point of checking it invalid.
You should be looking for a 4Runner
I don’t understand what you mean by a cheap suspension and shocks, by Rough Country. That’s only your opinion. Rough Country has a very good reputation. That is what we run on all of our Jeeps. Never had a problem!! The cost is not cheap either. Yes, cheaper than Fox but, why pay double for just a name?
I want to thank u . U have given great advice. For people like me .
You're very welcome. 😀
Thanks for the great information on getting a used Jeep really appreciated
What about mileage standards? What should I look for mileage wise?
Another vehicle.
I bought a jeep with similar equipment being equal all are JL williys 2 door. Out of 3, one was off roaded as evidenced by scratches on the side and under body. I bought the one that was never off roaded. Prices were equal. I want to be the one that puts those scars 😊
I WISH I'd seen this before purchasing my 2017 Wrangler Unltd Sport! Terrific information, thank you.
Rough Country lifts are not cheap. They may be in price but not in actual usage. Im so tired of that narrative. Cheap doesn't always mean cheap and expensive doesn't always mean the best.
What’s the best ones? Been looking at some but I don’t know the difference tbh I’m trying to learn more so I can build it nice. I go camping a lot and off roading occasionally when I go shooting
Do you think the used jeep should be under a certain amount of miles when purchasing? Or is it all about the upkeep of the jeep?
If it looks well taken care of, and proof of no real abuse, oil leaks, worn or broken parts... as far as I am concerned miles don't matter in the decision process. But miles DO matter in the selling price. So balance it. 😉
I'm going to say that it's directly related to upkeep. In the 4 years I've had my '13 JK I've more than doubled the miles that were on it at delivery so I feel I can attest. Go full synthetic. 🇺🇲🛻
@@JeepingForBeginners Wisdom here! 🇺🇲🛻
You never even pulled up the front driver and passenger floor mats and check for rotted floor panels due to Jeeps leaking
I wish i found this video dooner. I bought a 2011 jeep wrangler 2 door. Jk series. From a family member. The jeep has problems. All it seen was highway. The jeep has leaking transpan, front dif, front driver side axel seal, weak sway bar links, weak suspension, and a weak steering stabilizer and i have to also replace the rear track bar... so much money. But it's gonna be worth it in the end. Hopefully.
I dont plan on going off road. Im gonna use to pull a small trailer. Maybe some fun down some old shallow two tracks, and dirt roads. But that about it. I got because its like a fiat. But taller and bigger and more fun to drive.
First thing I do when buying any vehicle is crawl underneath.
In my area there is about a 6k difference or less between used and new Wranglers...I bought my Wrangler new and I am better for it.
Just happened to be looking in for a used wrangler in henderson.
Here's another pro tip. Don't buy a jeep with an Angry Grill (Angry Girl). This is a useless "look at me" mod, and you won't get a warm reception from the real jeep crowd. Many Jeep owners I know will withhold the jeep wave from jeeps with an angry grill. Also, at least out west where I live jeepers withhold the jeep wave from street modded jeeps, like those with 20 inch or larger wheels and overly wide street tires. While there are many who modify their jeeps in this way (Angry Girls with big "rims" and wide ass street tires), real jeep entusiasts frown on these sorts of mods. #lockersbeforelightbars! My apologies if I offended you.
I bought a used jeep 2 years ago. Never ever again!!! If someone gave me a new one, I would sell it that day!!!
What model and why? I am thinking of getting a Jeep 😢
honestly a tacoma is a better bang for your buck even if they are a little underpowered
Honestly CarFax means very little. I was in an major accident, I got car fixed out of pocket and it was never reported.
Car Fax pulls from reports that are filed. If a report is never filed, no one ever knows
True, but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t look at it. It can tell you a lot more than just that or at least give you an idea of what it might have been through even though it’s not perfect.
It's actually hard tops that are prone to leaks. It's pretty rare for soft tops to leak.
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Very informative video. But your music is too loud.
What are your thoughts on Teraflex? Very informative video.
I prefer teraflex for suspension. I think they make a great product, and stand behind it. Ran their 4.5 inch kit on my first JK, their 2.5" kit on my last JK as well....
@@JeepingForBeginners thanks so much for the response. I’m currently looking into Teraflex’s 2.5” lift for my JK
I think you will very happy overall with that kit
Thank you so much for your info on buying a jeep. Im in seattle mark
I thought Jeep oil leaks were just a factory feature 😄
I love how the thumbnail has nothing to do with the video. Great job!
Even thou a year old. Ty for this! looking for one now!
Hey Josh, Thanks for very informative video. If possible show video on what are the things that must not be accepted at any price and what things may be acceptable even when not in perfectly prestine condition?
Get the hard top , very hard and expensive to get it later , soft tops are easy to get
I definitely appreciate this video so so much! Thank you ❤
I was looking at a 2011-2013 jeep liberty jet any information I need to look out for or is it a good jeep plz help I need to know as much as I can before I buy one. Thanks
Known for gaskets leaks. Get underneath and check for fluid leaks at rear main and oil pan.... also known for window regulator failures, so be sure to check all power windows for correct operation. Otherwise... the normal stuff, like wear and tear, drivability, weird noises. Those kinda things. Good luck!
@JeepingForBeginners thank you for the tips!! I will be on the look out now.
I’m watching this in November 2022. In my area of Oklahoma I’m seeing a lot of used Wranglers and Gladiators from 2020. Is there a particular problem with the 2020 models that I should be looking for?
No.... Leasing was a HUGE thing during the Pandemic. And now all those leases have come due.... so hence the overflow of a particular late model year
@@JeepingForBeginners Thank you for the information I appreciate it.
Thanks for the good advise....very important to check b4 final decision....Gb..
So does any of this matter if I plan to get a warranty? I'm looking to purchase used, but I'm afraid of buying a lemon 🍋 😩
Warranties only last so long. And even if you get a full warranty, if you do not make a wise choice to begin with, ex. Making sure no foreseeable issues, it may always be in the shop using that warranty. Please keep in mind, regardless of what the dealer tells you, warranties will not cover any modifications.... so if you get a Wrangler pre-built, you could still have issues ... so yeah, being smart about a used purchase is always a good idea. 😉
@@JeepingForBeginners thank you do much for that information. So jeep offered a 7year warranty, now I know to ask if any mods were done. Thank you so much for your advice. I once had a sales man drop 5 grand on a 2016 Rubicon. I was alone shopping at the time, as tempted as I was to accept, something in my gut told me it was just too good to be true. 🤔😔
Warranties don’t cover preexisting conditions. Any claim turned in during the warranties first year is likely going to be challenged by the warranty provider. Warranties are expensive, often more expensive than the problem would be to fix. Personally, I don’t buy warranties.
Thank you sir I appreciate it I’m learning a lot
the other thing with Modded vehicles is the quality or the parts used
Great video! Thanks for the info!!!
So what are the common issues with the 3.6?
I want an old used jeep so bad but i know nothing about the technical stuff!!! It scares me! I dont want it breaking down and i have no extra money to fix anything that goes wrong. But i have a dog now and in need of a car now and i wish i could get a wrangler so badly.
Great info and video Josh
Thank you. Hope it helps. 😀
I im looking at a jeep right now and want to know if the rear backing plate is a problem i should be Worried about Reoccurring or just a one or should I keep looking at other jeeps
What exactly has you concerned about it?
You better pull up that cover and check that oiler cooler housing
Just buy a jeep in the color you like. Everything else can be fixed. You don’t need to shop around too much 👍
Wranglers are definitely not for everyone thats for sure.
Most people buy them for just the cool factor of it and thats when the cheap mods get added, just to look cool.
My last trail outing winter run, I was going up a hill and couldnt make it so I slid back wards the guy behind me didnt stop at the bottom of the hill so i ended up distroying his amazon bumper 😂😂
Before the run started he was proud to have gotten it and it was a day old lol his happeness didn't last though 😂😂, i did end up paying him to have it replaced by a better bumper
Great video thank you We are new to Las Vegas and looking for our first jeep. Need a 4 door if you are aware of any good deals out there let me know.
Nice work Josh! Thank you.
wow nice video 👌🏼 i learned something new today
Any known issues with 2001 wrangler sport models?
Dont need to look for anything but the jeep badge. Once confirmed leave.
JEEP stands for (J)ust (E)mpty (E)very (P)ocket. I own a Jeep Renegade Trailhawk 2017. It was made in Italy! It is the best Urban style Jeep that is Trail Rated!. It is a small SUV that can go off road! It can and wili go anywhere a stock Wrangler Sport will go! In style and in comfort. You should look at some Jeep Renegades on your channel ! Forget about the Jeep Compass. They are made in Mexico!
I have a 17 Jeep Renegade but debating about getting a 17 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 2dr. Needing insight
Correct, Jeeps are Harleys with 4 wheels. They have gone BK a few times over the years but kids will be kids. Cheap plastics, thin metals, shitty ride but hey...."it's a Jeep thang". I saw so many kids who worked for me with these bottomless pits of despair plowing their meager cash into fixing them (not fixing them up....simply fixing them to get on the road again). Oh well.
Dream on . 🙄
Im deciding between 2.0 liter turbo and thr 3.6? Any recommendation?
Based on experience, working in a jeep service department, the 3.6 may have its issues, but it's tried and true. More common, also means better long term parts support. The 2.0 is to reliant on a turbo for power, and I've seen to many fail because of it. So for long term, overall cost of ownership, the 3.6 is my choice
scratches and dents from off road? if you are rock crawling in the northeast you are going to get them- you are not abusing the vehicle- you are using it. i agree on the leaks , suspension and other tips- but scratches and dents on a 4wheel drive? you want a mall crawler then...
Excellent advice!
What’s the maximum mileage you would consider when buying a Wrangler JL? I wanted something below 40k miles. Seeing a lot of them in the 50-60k mileage range. Is that acceptable? (I plan on keeping the car for a long time)
12 to 15k per model year is average. Higher is okay if price is lower, but lower mileage means higher price. Ultimately, if you maintain it, and it was maintained, it doesn't matter as much
@tradde11thats where I would look at the carfax. If it’s had multiple owners with low or high mileage, then you can assume that it might be an unreliable vehicle. Especially if the sale dates are close together. Might not be a reliable way of looking at it, but I’d rather play it on the safe side rather than buying a money pit.
Thank you so much for the advice
Thanks for sharing
Gracias por compartir
Muito Obrigado.
No problem, hope it helps! 😀
On the black Jeep that was heavily modified…. Are those led headlights?
Yeah, and actually the same ones I run on mine. They are nice headlights
More of it! Great Video!
Greatly appreciated 🙏
Very good information.
Dude, I've been in the game a long time. 10 years at jeep as a tech and 3 in the aftermarket and fab side. Smittybilt is cheap. It's the rough country of body parts. Also shopping for a used jk, note the 3.8 vs the 3.6. The 3.6 will leak from the oil filter valley. Also 3.6 ticking.
I can make a whole video rebuttal to this.
Fortunately, this video was not actually made for you. It was made for those with zero knowledge or very little when it comes to experience. Hence jeeping for beginners. I'm glad you can see through some of the things we see daily, infact I'm sure it helps you to have a better rig and a better sense of what you need. And if you need to have the absolute best, and name brands, thats also okay. However, just like the online forums, we are not here to put anyone down, nor are we here to show off that we may have had more experience then others. We are here to share. So if the content does not benefit you, that's perfectly okay. 👌 if you can gain some use, then great! At the end of the day, my opinion, from my years of experience of working for FCA, and such, may be different then yours... and that's awesome. But it's not a reason to hop on, and try to prove your the bigger ego on campus. I may simplify things, sometimes over simplify, but that's the point. To keep it simple.
Anyways, thank you so much for watching, glad the video made you think, cause that was the real point! Have a great night! See you on the next one! 😉
Can I email you a Jeep that I am considering? Lol it’s actually here on YT as well!