Shisui is a master in genjutsu in general, both in eye genjutsu and in seal genjutsu, and his genjutus, in addition to being able to be launched from a distance, is not limited to visual contact. This is what made him one of the best Genjutsu users, besides of course having Kotoamatsukami, which traps you in a genjutsu from which you will never escape for the simple fact that you will never know you are in a genjutsu. He really was that threat he was known for
You know, they say in life two things are guaranteed: death and taxes. I would like to make my proposal that we add a third: in any versus video, Hidan gets included in, he is going to get stomped on. This brings me to another point. I would like to propose a video of Hidan showing people he can definitively beat. I think it would be a good idea to show that there is actually a gigantic gap between Hidan and the vast majority of other ninja. You know, there was an actual reason he was recruited in to the Akatsuki.
Hidan is honestly probably low Jonin level without his hax. Asuma essentially defeated him and Hidan would have been totally done had Asuma understood his abilities and/or had Kakuzu not been there to reattach his head. Asuma is probably mid Jonin level at best. Even Kurenai should be able to take out Hidan in mere moments via genjutsu.
I think against Sasori, Shisui can speed blitz but he’d probably not know that Sasori is immune to genjutsu even if he can see the core, and in character he tries to genjutsu his opps off rip and so he’d be open to being poisoned. That’s 55/50 to me, 55 going to Shisui. Sasori’s senses and him not having a brain seems weird but it’s like King Crimson from JoJos, It Just Works. Deidara, Kakuzu, and Hidan all get blitzed. If Shisui is really relative to MS Anbu Itachi then he just stops at Itachi. He’d beat Kisame because Kisame’s genjutsu stat is ass. A Bee video sounds like a great idea, people either think he’s below the Raikage or above KCM1 Naruto in base alone.
@@imshkth That depends, will Shisui just sit still and watch as Samehada crawls toward Kisame like Bee did? Maybe if Plotshimoto is writing the story, but more objectively Kisame would probably just get decapitated
Can do a video (or maybe a couple of videos) about how the naruto movie villains would do against the akatsuki? I think they are some pretty interesting matchings you can put against the akatsuki
Low key if Koto worked on Itachi in the war I think there’s a solid chance Shisui just gets Itachi with Koto, especially since you can somehow use it without direct eye contact, in the case with Danzo using it on Mifune.
Itachi wanted it to work on him that's why it worked so easily,if you show resistance you can resist anything according to your power level but if you don't resist it then anything simple enough will effect you easily.
@@Wyrm7774 ohh there is resistance like you can't just go and put madara or hagoromo or even obito in genjutsu with even koto or shit,it is overstated as many other jutsus.even rinnesharingaan genjutsu don't worked on obito so definetely there is always some resistance to every genjutsu that exist and rinnesharigaan gejutsu is just way league above of koto so don't say that koto is more powerfull not really.
@@noobtube373 You can Kotoamatsukami is a oneshot its a stated fact. And obito dont have great Genjutsu resistance in general lmao. Read teh shinden he even feared kid itachis genjutsu lmao
@@barbarrox not really he was just blabbering,do you really thing obito is weak against genjutsu giving you one feat of obito that is goona put him above itachi in every level,obito put a perfect jhinchuriki in genjutsu that was feat stated to be impossible but here he is doing impossible,itachi don't have any feat that is even comparable to obito controlling nine tails at 14.
Bro, that's funny as hell I picked up on your use of "Interesting" in one of your old videos. It's not worth changing though, but not going to lie I burst out laughing when you mentioned it lol. Keep doing your thing dude, awesome vid!
"All these fights are just speculations, in my opinion. We don't have enough information to make a fair case. Even though this character appears literally for only a few seconds on screen, he has a lot of fans. The truth is, the only fact we truly have is that he was actually destroyed by Danzo and his people-a much weaker version of Danzo than the one Sasuke fought after the Kage Summit."
he did win against Asuma he'll win against iruka too sound 4 , part1 zabuza kimimaru , haku I'm counting part 1 version of these characters not edo tensie
@@Twix44Hidan is low Jonin level. Zabuza and Kimimaro would destroy him. He has essentially one jutsu and needs to get close to his opponent. Zabuza could use the hidden mist jutsu to obscure his vision and then slice Hidan’s head off while using water clones to potentially tank hits. Don’t even get me started on Kimimaro. Hidan would get close to him and end up getting impaled by his bones. If you’re going to say that Hidan defeated Asuma, which he honestly didn’t because Asuma sliced his head off and had Kakuzu not been there to reattach it, it would have been over, then you can also say that high Chunin level Shikamaru defeated Hidan. I agree that Hidan could beat Jiribo and Sakon/Ukon, but he’s getting stomped by Tayuya’s genjutsu and Kidomaru’s ranged attacks and summons. Hidan would defeat Iruka for sure. Haku? Lmao. Haku would put Hidan in his ice mirrors and Hidan wouldn’t be able to touch him. Not sure where you’re getting all this from.
I think Itachi and Obito understand Koto enough to not get caught by it, and they're stronger by enough to overwhelm him quickly. Pain is weird tho, he might honestly lose just cause Kotoamatsukami is literally called the strongest genjutsu in the databook, meaning it's >Gamarinsho which negged him. If it affects all of them that is. Other than those 3, no other Akatsuki member really has an answer to Koto other than maybe Sasori who I think he beats anyways.
Although Pains eyes are all linked it’s a weird scenario. I don’t see one path getting caught and the rest suffering from it. When ma and pa used their genjutsu only the paths present got caught. Although that was doujutsu it shows they don’t share certain things. Nagato wouldn’t be effected if any of the other paths got caught and the fact he’s constantly pumping chakra into them means he would be aware of any changes in them.
@@blackche1580No he didn’t. He used sound genjutsu because it’s the one Ma and Pa knew. Jiraiya sucks at genjutsu and didn’t even know Ma and Pa had genjutsu in their arsenal. Rinnegan can get hit by visual genjutsu.
Shisui has statements that put him above Itachi. Itachi says if shisui was still alive he could physically stop me from performing the massacre. This implies that even after getting the Ms Itachi considers shisui stronger.
@@aaronrodriguez9376 Ehhh what he said was that Shisui would do anything to protect the clan and that Itachi's glad they parted as friends. That could mean Shisui could stop him, but could just as easily just mean Itachi didn't want to have to fight his friend. Also that's Young Itachi, doesn't scale to his prime self.
26:32 😭😭😭😭 I’m crying I wanna know who said that cause I always think the same thing. I already know everytime I watch one of your vids you gonna say “interesting” at least 5 times bro 😂
@@ThunderGodTG I'll say maybe the weakest or 2nd weakest Uchiha to have Mangekyou Sharingan. Izuna is his competition. I don't think he is weak, just overrated
@ThunderGodTG I am also not counting Fugaku here; if we are then he is the weakest imo. Izuna at least was killed by his brotherly clan who was the strongest tribe at the time and to their 2nd strongest ninja (Izuna being the 2nd best of the 2nd best). Seems the anime gave Fugaku a MS just like Trunks and Goten got SSJ
@@cheapR1 in the novel danzo literally says him and itachi are the most skilled uchiha of that time and he is obviously stronger than that itachi And in the game version danzo straight up says it again shisui is the strongest uchiha at that time Shisui isnt weak yall just dont know anything about him
42:50 Obito probably wants it for Sasuke. A few episodes before the Danzo fight he told Zetsu its meaningless if Sasuke surpasses Nagato but they cant control him. Perhaps he wanted to secure Sasukes allegience for the war which was evidently necessary.
The Implication in the Sasuke vs Danzo fight was that Danzo didn’t have Sharingan arm until after the massacre so i don’t know what makes you think he had it before that. Sasuke “How many Uchiha did you have to kill to get that right arm of yours!?” Danzo “It was all thanks to Itachi”
That was actually an anime only line, I will also add the sharingan on his arm don't really amp him or offer any substantial strength increase, as it's not as if Danzo got weaker each time an eye on his arm closes. So either way it makes actually no difference other than increasing Izanagi time, or the increase is so miniscule that it isn't noticeable as Karin makes no note of it, so regardless if he does or doesn't have them the Senju Arm is the main buff
I don’t disagree with you but what I’m saying is the anime is generally considered its own canon due to it adding a lot of stuff whereas the manga generally takes precedent. It also does not mean every eye on that arm came from the massacre he could have gotten some from it which I def think he did.
Considering Storm 4 in on the table, the only question is If he's using his PERFECT SUSANOO or not. That changes the outcome dramatically. Also, If he is using his perfect susanoo, is Itachi using his as well?
i mean since perfect susanoo arguably doesn’t need ems to use yea he should be able to use it But he wouldn’t be able to maintain it long enough to actually be able to fight with it Hed probably be able to get 1 attack off and then be completely drained of chakra
Interesting that you made a video about my man Shisui because another content creator made a video about it an hour ago. Yeah it is your video, do what you want with it brother, in the end of the day this is all for fun.
Shisui was very skilled and talented, has amazing footwork that makes him look like he's teleporting. He literally made itachi greater and was praised by many. All people say is danzo one shot so he's fodder smh
Yo tg good video but I got a question do you think samehada can break koto because when you where talking about koto I think you didn’t talk about samehada enough because I think he can disturb kisame chakra and break him out and samehada knows how kisame acts normally. Plus killer bee does say to break out of genjustu you need a partner to break you out.
at 10:03 I feel like Kakuzu vs Deepa (from Boruto ) could've been a dope fight.. Idk who'd win... Maybe Kakuzu if he fuses with ALL 5 Elemental Hearts (instead of 2 ) like he did Vs Kakashi.
Kakazu is actually a very interesting mixup for Shisui. I am curious. Sharingan works by the user controlling the other's chakra but Kakazu has multiple sources of chakra (hearts). Would this just outright nullify Shisui's ability to control? Would Shisui even be able to utilize Sharingan against the masks (which I doubt)? Man would be a very cool episode to see.
Shisui is a bit of an anomaly. He's believed to be the strongest Uchiha in his time, but the actual power level of Fugaku is unknown, so it makes the argument a dubious one. There's also no confirmation that Danzo actually needed Root to defeat Shisui. We only know that he used them. But Danzo is smart. He wouldn't risk a long, bloody fight at all let alone before a potential coup if he had an easier method. All-in-all, I think Shisui might be around the level of Kakashi at the Gaara Rescue arc or Pain Invasion. I wouldn't go higher than that with any level of certainty.
Fugaku is compared to jonin minato and the sanin in the novel So that answers your question As far as danzo needing the anbu considering in every version he brings them it’s pretty implied He also has them poison him in game and in novel The coup plan was actually built around shisui so by killing shisui he got the eye and postponed the coup There is just alot yall don’t know because you haven’t read the novel
Shisui is one of those characters that was originally made as support for Itachi, and was killed early for the story, but then everyone ended up loving him. Kishimoto should’ve retconned him surviving the waterfall drop
That wouldn’t have made any sense and would have altered the course of the story in a way that wouldn’t have worked. Writers retconning happenings due to fans loving characters is fundamentally flawed. The story comes first.
I feel composit sishui should probably be hanging around the sanib lvl above their respective base forms but below the amped states so add his hax and his susano he should be able to hold his own against several of the Akatsuki and only loses to the top tiers of the Akatsuki line obito pain and itachi
@@artheals8869 “was one of the most talented of the uchiha clan,yashiro said.”and the best ever at teleportation.He was always the first to take on missions for the sake of the clan.” 1.Shisui is stated the best ever at teleportation in the novel by yashiro. (all statments are from the author through characters and are true until proven false.) yashiro came up with the plan for shisui use speed to kidnap the 3rd for the revolt. So this statement isn’t only referring to the clan. 2.The author narratively thinks yashiro has seen and knows enough to say it. This includes minato they both faught in the same 2 wars and yashiro worked with obito who fed him information for the revolt. considering the revolt plan is based around shisuis speed they definitely discussed it. Implying obito also holds shisui speed in high regard. (prove obito fed false information or lied) This solidifies shisui having a faster base bodyflicker than minato. (Minato could be faster outside of base obito only faught base minato) raikage says jonin minato is faster than him Shisui>=base alive kage minato>edo tobirama>jonin minato>raikage
Please stop using “isn’t close” for thumbnail titles. Honestly even if the videos are good, it feels very clickbaity and makes me not want to watch it at all. I get it it’s not just you, it’s a trendy thing, but still it’s extremely contradictory to what the videos actually usually end up saying…
It’s just to run traffic through they’re not too bad, I don’t feel to bad not cause it’s clickbait but because I’m taking the time to make quality stuff so it’s alright if I get some extra clicks. + I clarify every time in the first minute of the video
Shisui doesn’t really use kotoamatsukami unless it’s a last resort. Plus anybody who scales high enough above shisui should be able to blitz him before he uses koto.
@@obsidianquill7949 “He was one of the most talented of the uchiha clan,yashiro said.”and the best ever at teleportation.He was always the first to take on missions for the sake of the clan.” 1.Shisui is stated the best ever at teleportation in the novel by yashiro. (all statments are from the author through characters and are true until proven false.) yashiro came up with the plan for shisui use speed to kidnap the 3rd for the revolt. So this statement isn’t only referring to the clan. 2.The author narratively thinks yashiro has seen and knows enough to say it. This includes minato they both faught in the same 2 wars and yashiro worked with obito who fed him information for the revolt. considering the revolt plan is based around shisuis speed they definitely discussed it. Implying obito also holds shisui speed in high regard. (prove obito fed false information or lied) This solidifies shisui having a faster base bodyflicker than minato. (Minato could be faster outside of base obito only faught base minato) raikage says jonin minato is faster than him Shisui>=base alive kage minato>edo tobirama>jonin minato>raikage
It seems like you argued shisui was stronger than itachi, but that was because itachi was young and weaker. It's pointed out in the novel that itachi only really lost against shisui in their sparring matches was "when something weighed heavily on his mind", which wasnt very often. Shisui's death also triggered itachi's ms awakening which is a stat boost as well. Itachi then goes on to get stronger as he gets older before contracting the deadly disease. From this we could say itachi was easily the more talented one and became the stronger one. He was younger than shisui, and sparred with him at an even level in base.
if you read novel you would know 3tomoe itachi almost got killed by mukai twice while shisui did fine until he had to save itachi and on the night of the massacre itachi straight up says its fortunate shisui died because he would’ve faught him to the end Implying shisui relative to or above that version when you take in consideration shisuis speed scaling he clearly isn’t relative to that itachi so he is above him
@jayash2957 fighting shisui till the end doesn't mean they're relative it just means shisui doesn't give up and is a fighter, unlike everyone else who pretty much gave up or got 1 shot. Just because shisui could put up a fight doesn't mean he's itachi's superior. The fight against those special ninja happened when itachi was like 8 years old so again that doesn't mean shisui is that much stronger as we know itachi also gets stronger as he ages and shisui had also gotten the boost in base acquired along with unlocking the ms. You could pretty much guarantee once itachi got his ms he surpassed shisui.
@@sarexui634 thats your interpretation not a fact If you and another person fight to the end or to the death you are relative You dont fight someone you are so much stronger than to the end that makes no sense You would just kill them quick especially itachi who had already made up his mind to kill everyone that night itachi faught mukai as an anbu assignment he was not 8 getting ms doesn't make him stronger Shisui had ms for 10 years Just like sasuke didn't automatically pass itachi who had it multiple years Itachi didn't automatically pass shisui who had it multiple years
@jayash2957 fighting to the end and fighting to the death are 2 completely different things and you'd be dumb to assume so. Itachi means shisui would fight till his own end or till his own death which would be in 1 shot for all we know the point is he was itachi's best friend and the only person other than sasuke that he truly cared for. Itachi joined the album at like 10 so a 2 year difference isn't that big and it's annoying that you think a 2 year difference makes you right how petty and pathetic aew you? That doesn't change anything I've said It just means itachi was 2 years older. I'm still right and itachi was simply young and inexperienced at the time and got stronger as he got older. When sasuke lost all of orochimaru's cells he was only slightly weaker thanks to the boost he recieved from the MS. I never said the ms gave you an exponential growth in power, it just gives you some power. So if itachi and shisui are relative it could be enough to make itachi stronger but not by multiple times or anything. Why does sasuke have to automatically pass itachi to prove ms makes you stronger? That's dumb logic and you're dumb for saying it. Not only was sasuke DRASTICALLY WEAKER than itachi, but itachi never even showed his true power to begin with so obviously sasuke couldn't pass him, the boost given by ms isn't exponential as I've already stated. Itachi did pass shisui because they were relative and shisui already had his so it would make sense that itachi surpasses shisui. Sasuke wasn't close to itachi so it makes sense that he didn't surpass him. You're just being annoying and arguing semantics you have yet to prove me wrong
@@sarexui634 “He was one of the most talented of the uchiha clan,yashiro said.”and the best ever at teleportation.He was always the first to take on missions for the sake of the clan.” 1.Shisui is stated the best ever at teleportation in the novel by yashiro. (all statments are from the author through characters and are true until proven false.) yashiro came up with the plan for shisui use speed to kidnap the 3rd for the revolt. So this statement isn’t only referring to the clan. 2.The author narratively thinks yashiro has seen and knows enough to say it. This includes minato they both faught in the same 2 wars and yashiro worked with obito who fed him information for the revolt. considering the revolt plan is based around shisuis speed they definitely discussed it. Implying obito also holds shisui speed in high regard. (prove obito fed false information or lied) This solidifies shisui having a faster base bodyflicker than minato. (Minato could be faster outside of base obito only faught base minato) raikage says jonin minato is faster than him Shisui>=base alive kage minato>edo tobirama>jonin minato>raikage
For sure?? This entire video is hard wank not even 5 mins in and bros saying danzo stayed the same strength for like 13 years and didnt get any stronger with all the sharingan in his arm
You call it when their gazes intersect but that would mean that if they look at the same thing or if they look in any non opposite or non parallel direction the gazes intersect like lines and then that implies that a genjutsu can be cast when it can’t their eyes need to meet
No you’re thinking of a car intersection or two things crossing each other, the point of the intersection statement was Shisui and the other dudes eyes moving and for a brief moment intersecting or if you want to get into the definition “passing each other” the wording is a little funky though I will grant you
Just wanna say I'd LOVE to see more videos like this on characters who are tough to scale. I think a Konan vid would be awesome but probably similarly difficult to determine
Shisui and Kakashi’s dad not being resurrected during the war is criminal. Why did we get the shitty gold and silver brothers no one cares about over these two goat’s.
I'm not sure he Shisui is 5 Kate summit Danzo level since reason he didn't die multiple times from Sasuke is becouse of the many sharingan he got after he killed Shisui. Since he lost but held hi own to someone who lost while BSing someone doesn't mean Shisui is 5 Kate Sasuke level. If that logic worked then Kiba (who lost to Naruto in the chunin exams) is Edo Tensai 3rd Raikage level (who lost against Naruto in the 4th shinobi world war)
Shisui scales above danzo so where danzo scales is irrelevant shisui has statements able to bliz the third danzos rival He also above base alive minato in bodyflicker
when was it stated shisui can spam koto the weaker version the danzo had had a 1 day cooldown and the second one had a 10 YEAR cooldown if u can show me where it said he could spam also obito just didnt really care that he couldnt use it and he easily wanted to the rinnegan more
the whole koto working differently thing in both eyes is a theory It works the same just has 2 different methods of being cast similar to kamui and the cool down thing is only for people other or things other than shisui itachi says Shisui mangekyo takes ten years Yes that can be interpreted as him saying shisui has a cooldown But it could also be interpreted as shisui mangekyo/eye interference to the eye in his position inside the crow Further proof is in the itachi light novel when explaining how koto works to itachi he doesn’t mention a cooldown or one of the eyes being weaker than the other
Body flicker isn’t your at point a or b it’s that you go from a to b very fast over and over. So the real body is in both places only half the time, (just so fast it might as well be at the same time) really that’s why the “after images” can hit things.
It's important to mention, if there are any crucial strategic points to be hit with shuriken/kunai, Shisui would definitely go there. Like, rinnegan eyes of path-dudes, that were destroyed by edo-Itachi fighting with edo-Nagato. I also believe, according to Itachi's belief 'every opponent has a weak point', Shisui is enough intelligent to find out those too and use his abilities to exploit them.
Aren’t we aware of the fact that the pain body’s under genjutsu don’t effect nagato cause ma and pa used one of the strongest genjutsus in the verse ( probably top 10) didn’t effect nagato himself 🤔
We actually don’t know what happened to Nagato, he could have gotten hit, Konan could have broken him out, maybe it didnt’t even effect him as much to all the pain bodies not being present.
@@ThunderGodTGrinnegaan does not get affected by any genjutsu even if it is for kotoamatsukami and we don't even know limitation of koto as we only had heard some bragged shit about it which is not enough and his body flikker is just basic.
Let's be Real , Only Akatsuki Shisui is beating is Hidan and that's Only cause of Genjutsu 🤷 Hidan is Way above Shisui in terms of Raw Stats🙌 Akatsuki members are At Bare minimum High Jonin lvl in Stats + Special Ability. Of course he is also very good at Body flicker. He scales to Sharingan Kakashi in terms Taijutsu and he is Incredibly skilled in Controlling his Scythe to get Blood from a range 🤷 Hidan being the Slowest in Attack Speed among the Akatsuki is Irrelevant cause others have insane attack and attack Speed. It doesn't mean he is slower than others in a Taijutsu manner. So , Hidan has a fair chance to beat Shisui if Shisui doesn't Outright go with Genjutsu from the get go. Shisui had the potential but at the point of his Death , He is not Beating any other Akatsuki 🙌
Shisui was stated the strongest uchiha at that time Above fugaku who is compared to the sanin and jonin minato jonin minato was easily reacting to the raikage And raikage straight up said minato was faster than himself So you're telling me shisui who is above them isnt reacting to hidan or beating hidan without genjutsu!?
@@jayash2957 First of all , Shisui was neither stated to nor is the strongest Uchiha of his time. Fugaku is way superior. He was the head of the Clan. Secondly , Fugaku was never stated to be even Close to the Sannin. He was compared to Minato. Minato was stated to be Faster than ' Young ' Raikage. But not stronger or anything. Shisui is not on Minato's lvl and Minato in Raw stats is Kakashi lvl at best. And Hidan can go toe to toe with this Sharingan Kakashi. So yah , Shisui's best chance is Genjutsu
@@SalmanulFarisi101 “No one in the Uchiha clan can match the abilities of Itachi and Shisui. If we can win those two over, it likely won’t be difficult to prevent the explosion of their clan. Just as you gave Shisui special privileges, it is necessary to give a certain amount of the same to Itachi.” Danzo when talking to the 3rd hokage puts both itachi and shisui above fugaku and the 3rd didnt disagree You just havent read the novel fugaku is compared to both the sanin and jonin minato old raikage straight up says he is the second fastest after minato and the only version of minato he is ever 100% shown and confirmed to fight is jonin minato Raikage wouldnt know how strong hokage minato is So shisui>jonin minato> old raikage
@@arnavpandey5386 “Why should the fourth be Minato?!” The fierce voice on the other side of the closed sliding door stopped Itachi in his tracks. “You don’t know who could be listening.” His father’s even tone. “Keep your voice down, Yashiro.” “But I just can’t accept it. The only name other than Minato put forward for the selection of the Fourth was Lord Orochimaru! Why did not a single person say your name, Lord Fugaku?” “Village officials don’t want the Uchihaclan standing on center stage. They said nothing in the village about all the work you did during the Great War, Lord Fugaku. Because of that, it was Minato and the Sannin, and even Hatake Kakashi -who has the sharingan despite not being a member of the clan-who shone. If the people can make a fuss over Minato and Kakashi, then your name should also-” “Enough.” Fugaku’s controlled voice cut Yashiro off.” since i apparently lied about fugaku being Compared to them
5 kage summit Sasuke is 1 tier above Danzo. He fought him after the 4 kage (granted, he had his chakra/health replenished), and he was bullying him throughout the fight. Danzo only survived long enough because of izanagi. Danzo even tried to black mail Sasuke using Karin. When Danzo was dealt with, Sasuke had the strength to engage Kakashi and Naruto. My point is that, Shishui can't be at Sasuke's and Danzo's level, simply because they don't share a level! Shishui is probably at Danzo's level (he could be scaled below Danzo because Danzo didn't use the arm-sharingans or above him because he had a team established beforehand). I guess what I want to say is that 5 kage summit Sasuke scales above Shisui (even though koto amatsukami is a win condition for Shisui).
Shisui doesn’t scale below five kage summit sasuke or danzo He actually can blitz both with his speed In the novel he is implied fast enough to kidnap the third hokage Who was stated the strongest on the 5 kage while alive The version of the 3rd hokage shisui was gonna kidnap is actually stronger than the one shown in the show Orochimaru says if he was 10 years younger he would’ve beat him in there fight So shisui is stronger than the 3rd who was stronger than the 5 kage
@@jayash2957 I scaled him based on the anime. If I scaled him based on the manga, well, he is not even scaleable! Novels and games... I don't know, I haven't played or read them.
@@vrj8791 the anime filler you are referencing is based on the novel they just didn’t follow it faithfully it makes more sense to scale him off the source material google itachi light novel pdf vol 1 and 2 and read it free
So look Ik dudes aren’t gonna like this but I just wanna mention it cause you said composite Shunsui but in a what if filler where Sasuke stayed in the village in the anime and Shisui in that anime filler trained Sasuke during the time skip and taught him how to do Chidori Stream and master lighting release. So if you go off that Shisui may be comparable to or better than Hebi Sasuke in terms of lighting release I’ll let you guys do what you want with that.😂🤣
It's crazy cause I was gonna bring that up, but bro was like 40 During that and it was infinite tsukyomi filler so I strayed from it. SHIT WAS CRAZY THO
I'm bothered by the composite Shisui thing but I'm a lot more bothered by the phrasing of your titles please make them more clear this is not just Shisui vs the Akatsuki
I don't think that Shisui can beat Deidara. Deidara can't easily be snuck upon to assassinate the way Shisui usually can with body flicker because he always keep animal style explosives on his body to go after people that get too close. I think the most likely way Deidara wins is that he'll realize that Shisui can reposition anywhere on the field immediately so Deidara will saturate the place with explosive animals and mines until Shisui miss steps and gets caught in the blast radius of a bomb. Also, in character, Shisui isn't dumb enough to fight Deidara alone if he can help it. He'd simply run away and come back with more reinforcements. Deidara wouldn't fall to Genjutsu, and his superior taijutsu isn't a factor because Deidara's explosives wouldn't let him finish the job. Remember, Sasuke only fought Deidara because he had the curse mark and thought that he could use Genjutsu on Deidara. It was coincidental as well that his lightning nullified Deidara's explosives. Shisui doesn't have these things going for him.
Shisui has sharingan which can see chakra those bombs have chakra he will see them Shisui is faster and has stronger genjutsu than sasuke And in the databook does actually have lightning style So he can nullify them aswell
“He was one of the most talented of the uchiha clan,yashiro said.”and the best ever at teleportation.He was always the first to take on missions for the sake of the clan.” 1.Shisui is stated the best ever at teleportation in the novel and manga by yashiro. (all statments are from the author through characters and are true until proven false.) yashiro is credited for coming up with the plan for shisui use speed to kidnap the 3rd for the revolt. So this statement isn’t only referring to the clan. 2.The author narratively thinks yashiro has seen and knows enough to say it. This includes minato they both faught in the same 2 wars and yashiro worked with obito who fed him information for the revolt. considering the revolt plan is based around shisuis speed they definitely discussed it. Implying obito also holds shisui speed in high regard. (prove obito fed false information or lied) This solidifies shisui having a faster base bodyflicker than minato. (Minato could be faster outside of base obito only faught base minato) raikage says jonin minato is faster than him Shisui>=base alive kage minato>edo tobirama>jonin minato>raikage
his speed does but people don't wanna acknowledge it because of how little he appears Even tho narrativly characters like killer bee respect his speed Author clrealy intends for him to be in that speed tier
Shisui clears most of the akutsuki as the breakdown details. Sharingan and susanoo are trump cards to many of the akutsuki members fighting styles. I wouldn’t exclude or ignore shisuis fire,wind and lightning elements just from lack of use in the show. He is hokage level easy. He only loses to nagato and itachi with Kisame being a good argument due to raw power and water counters. Also shisui beats objto bc obito is insanely overhyped. Obito is same level as kakashi when you think about it. And shisui beats kakashi every time.
You were outright wrong with what you said about Sharingan countering C0. It was lightning style that countered it which we don't have the evidence to say Shisui's lightning style is strong enough.
What I was implying and said was that the Sharingan could see the range of C4 as Deidara has to make that large version of himself that blows up and reveals a chakra radius, raiton is what disarms it but, any Sharingan user becomes aware of it, obviously that doesn’t constitute a W instantly, but it does take away an aspect of the technique that makes it so effective. I legit mentioned that lightning point too bruv come on
Shisui was strong but not OP. He was strong for his age and had a mangekyo.... but I think in reality he was similar to neji... not in strength but that he was strong for a kid but not necessarily a kage level threat. putting kid shisui vs the akasuki is not very realistic. think about thay kid in jr high who was more athletic than everyone else if he died at tjat time everyone would say "OMG he was destined to be a pro he dominated everyone till thay car accident" but since he didn't die in Jr high school he just became a mildly above average player in highschool maybe played a little in college.
What's crazy is people have itachi beating all of them except for obito. So imagine shisui who is much superior to itachi in literally every category smh
Shisui if he didn't die early would have been a real threat. Itachi got to outpace him as he lived longer, but as his sickness caught up with him I think Shisui would have come out on top almost every time. The spirit weapons are the biggest problem for Shisui in that matchup imo. Itachi might have problems even perceiving Shisui without his MS activated, as even his base Sharingan sight is failing badly in that fight with Sasuke. Ultimately we never get to see either of these guys at full power while alive so it's hard to say
Yeah he was only superior to young Itachi. In fact when Itachi starts training with Shisui he even says, “I’m surprised there’s anything i can teach you.” Implying Itachi is already close to power to an anbu captain while having a shadow clone literally sitting in a classroom simultaneously.
Shisui is bodying kakazu idk why you are making anyyy case for him. Shisui definitely scales far above part 2 kakashi. Shisui took a huge blow to his power scaling so the story could progress, but it’s clear his character could not be alive during the events of Naruto or part 2 shippuden without majorly changing the story IE him bodying threats that progress the story. Shisui can potentially out hax the top 3 obito itachi pain but for sure stomps everyone else
Shisui is a character I wanna like more, but the man just does so little in the series.
In the manga, Shisui was in only about 2, maybe 3, panels.
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Shisui is a master in genjutsu in general, both in eye genjutsu and in seal genjutsu, and his genjutus, in addition to being able to be launched from a distance, is not limited to visual contact.
This is what made him one of the best Genjutsu users, besides of course having Kotoamatsukami, which traps you in a genjutsu from which you will never escape for the simple fact that you will never know you are in a genjutsu.
He really was that threat he was known for
I think Shisui can take everyone except for Itachi, Kisame, Pain/Nagato, and Obito. Great video, please do Anbu Itachi vs Hebi Sasuke next!
I love how the hidan sections are always the shortest. Might as well be shorter then a skipable ad
You know, they say in life two things are guaranteed: death and taxes. I would like to make my proposal that we add a third: in any versus video, Hidan gets included in, he is going to get stomped on. This brings me to another point. I would like to propose a video of Hidan showing people he can definitively beat. I think it would be a good idea to show that there is actually a gigantic gap between Hidan and the vast majority of other ninja. You know, there was an actual reason he was recruited in to the Akatsuki.
I've had this recommended to me so much lmao
Hidan is honestly probably low Jonin level without his hax. Asuma essentially defeated him and Hidan would have been totally done had Asuma understood his abilities and/or had Kakuzu not been there to reattach his head. Asuma is probably mid Jonin level at best. Even Kurenai should be able to take out Hidan in mere moments via genjutsu.
I think against Sasori, Shisui can speed blitz but he’d probably not know that Sasori is immune to genjutsu even if he can see the core, and in character he tries to genjutsu his opps off rip and so he’d be open to being poisoned. That’s 55/50 to me, 55 going to Shisui. Sasori’s senses and him not having a brain seems weird but it’s like King Crimson from JoJos, It Just Works.
Deidara, Kakuzu, and Hidan all get blitzed. If Shisui is really relative to MS Anbu Itachi then he just stops at Itachi. He’d beat Kisame because Kisame’s genjutsu stat is ass. A Bee video sounds like a great idea, people either think he’s below the Raikage or above KCM1 Naruto in base alone.
Facts 💯
Bro fuck no
Isn't Samehada capable of regulating Kisame's chakra so breaking him out of a genjutsu?
@@imshkth That depends, will Shisui just sit still and watch as Samehada crawls toward Kisame like Bee did? Maybe if Plotshimoto is writing the story, but more objectively Kisame would probably just get decapitated
cant scale so u call smth plot armor?@@hobbyhorse5848
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Ton ton beats Hidan as having more screen time then ten ten with filler
Guy: “fighting a sharingan is easy just look at the feet”
SHISUI: *proceeds to teleport to your feet*
Guy: “well…. we’re screwed”
Streets callin' him Himsui after this one.
Damn, this might be the best Shisui battle analyses I've come across. Well played sir, very impressive.
I got the stamp of approval ✊🏻🔥 appreciate it my man
you could make an even better one if you used feats from shisui fanfics,then he would REALLY beat the akatsuki lol
@@ThunderGodTG
Great video
Another video idea is everyone whom hidan would beat in a fight..
@@ajayimoses2495 Video needs to list more then 3 people to reach the 10 min mark D:
@@tudeslildude
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Bro hidan didn’t do anything to deserve that…
What did he do to you?
At this point we need a video on hidan. We need to get my boy a W
My man be struggling fr fr also W pic we stay stabbing Gojo
Great video and the editing leveled up
Appreciate it!✊🏻
Can do a video (or maybe a couple of videos) about how the naruto movie villains would do against the akatsuki?
I think they are some pretty interesting matchings you can put against the akatsuki
1:44 No uchiha would expect such a crazy reaction to a basic restraining technique they hate using izanagi to avoid death let alone a mid genjustu .
Thank you for putting respect on Shisui's name ThunderGod. I *did* enjoy! I also enjoyed a lot of the visuals which I found funny.
My Man! Appreciate it!
Low key if Koto worked on Itachi in the war I think there’s a solid chance Shisui just gets Itachi with Koto, especially since you can somehow use it without direct eye contact, in the case with Danzo using it on Mifune.
Itachi wanted it to work on him that's why it worked so easily,if you show resistance you can resist anything according to your power level but if you don't resist it then anything simple enough will effect you easily.
@@noobtube373koto is specifically stated to work without the victim ever realizing it, if it hits you wouldn't know so there's nothing to resist
@@Wyrm7774 ohh there is resistance like you can't just go and put madara or hagoromo or even obito in genjutsu with even koto or shit,it is overstated as many other jutsus.even rinnesharingaan genjutsu don't worked on obito so definetely there is always some resistance to every genjutsu that exist and rinnesharigaan gejutsu is just way league above of koto so don't say that koto is more powerfull not really.
@@noobtube373 You can Kotoamatsukami is a oneshot its a stated fact. And obito dont have great Genjutsu resistance in general lmao. Read teh shinden he even feared kid itachis genjutsu lmao
@@barbarrox not really he was just blabbering,do you really thing obito is weak against genjutsu giving you one feat of obito that is goona put him above itachi in every level,obito put a perfect jhinchuriki in genjutsu that was feat stated to be impossible but here he is doing impossible,itachi don't have any feat that is even comparable to obito controlling nine tails at 14.
loved the embarrassingly short hidan section
Bro, that's funny as hell I picked up on your use of "Interesting" in one of your old videos. It's not worth changing though, but not going to lie I burst out laughing when you mentioned it lol. Keep doing your thing dude, awesome vid!
😂😂😂 I just had to put myself on the stand on that one 😂😂 appreciate the support!
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@@ThunderGodTG don't laugh too hard at your own joke now.
I can’t laugh with nobody no more man
Comp shisui goes crazy
"All these fights are just speculations, in my opinion. We don't have enough information to make a fair case. Even though this character appears literally for only a few seconds on screen, he has a lot of fans. The truth is, the only fact we truly have is that he was actually destroyed by Danzo and his people-a much weaker version of Danzo than the one Sasuke fought after the Kage Summit."
There is no speculations koto stomps all akat members
Why are you using quotations? Are we role-playing? 😆
@@poodie3887 Lmao, Shisui gets destroyed by anybody besides Hidan
@@mercylavigne I don’t understand you
@@poodie3887 anybody but Hidan*
Can we get a video of everyone Hidan could win a fight against?
Love this 😂
He would win against many..
he did win against Asuma he'll win against iruka too sound 4 , part1 zabuza kimimaru , haku I'm counting part 1 version of these characters not edo tensie
@@Twix44 Somehow idk about kimimaru. If he was able to tank all that sand then he'd probably tank Hidan's attacks too.
@@Twix44Hidan is low Jonin level. Zabuza and Kimimaro would destroy him. He has essentially one jutsu and needs to get close to his opponent. Zabuza could use the hidden mist jutsu to obscure his vision and then slice Hidan’s head off while using water clones to potentially tank hits. Don’t even get me started on Kimimaro. Hidan would get close to him and end up getting impaled by his bones. If you’re going to say that Hidan defeated Asuma, which he honestly didn’t because Asuma sliced his head off and had Kakuzu not been there to reattach it, it would have been over, then you can also say that high Chunin level Shikamaru defeated Hidan. I agree that Hidan could beat Jiribo and Sakon/Ukon, but he’s getting stomped by Tayuya’s genjutsu and Kidomaru’s ranged attacks and summons. Hidan would defeat Iruka for sure. Haku? Lmao. Haku would put Hidan in his ice mirrors and Hidan wouldn’t be able to touch him. Not sure where you’re getting all this from.
I think Itachi and Obito understand Koto enough to not get caught by it, and they're stronger by enough to overwhelm him quickly. Pain is weird tho, he might honestly lose just cause Kotoamatsukami is literally called the strongest genjutsu in the databook, meaning it's >Gamarinsho which negged him. If it affects all of them that is. Other than those 3, no other Akatsuki member really has an answer to Koto other than maybe Sasori who I think he beats anyways.
Although Pains eyes are all linked it’s a weird scenario. I don’t see one path getting caught and the rest suffering from it. When ma and pa used their genjutsu only the paths present got caught. Although that was doujutsu it shows they don’t share certain things. Nagato wouldn’t be effected if any of the other paths got caught and the fact he’s constantly pumping chakra into them means he would be aware of any changes in them.
jiraiya specifically used a audio genjutsu because regular couldnt work on them
@@blackche1580No he didn’t. He used sound genjutsu because it’s the one Ma and Pa knew. Jiraiya sucks at genjutsu and didn’t even know Ma and Pa had genjutsu in their arsenal. Rinnegan can get hit by visual genjutsu.
Shisui has statements that put him above Itachi. Itachi says if shisui was still alive he could physically stop me from performing the massacre. This implies that even after getting the Ms Itachi considers shisui stronger.
@@aaronrodriguez9376 Ehhh what he said was that Shisui would do anything to protect the clan and that Itachi's glad they parted as friends. That could mean Shisui could stop him, but could just as easily just mean Itachi didn't want to have to fight his friend. Also that's Young Itachi, doesn't scale to his prime self.
26:32 😭😭😭😭 I’m crying I wanna know who said that cause I always think the same thing. I already know everytime I watch one of your vids you gonna say “interesting” at least 5 times bro 😂
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I HAD TO COME AT MYSELF LMAO
A good video would be naming Characters Hidan could beat 😂
choji i guess
Not sure why there isn't more Killer Bee videos. Bro is dope
Did you forget Shisu has the BEST genjutsu and it does work on itachi. It forces him to be his friend. Shisu wins
not better than infinite tysukunomi
Cool story bro but whats his RAW DURABILITY like?
Splinter level fr
Kakazu can easily take out pain so he can beat shisui 0 diff
How tf did I not see this being the case
@@ThunderGodTG you forgot about kakazus raw durability
@@ThunderGodTGtf?? Get better at power scaling kakazus raw durability solos the entire uchiha clan
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@@obsidianquill7949 yeah fr lets desub.
Always love the content!! Great video
Shisui is easily the most overrated character in the series. As Six said, dude got folded by Danzo. Enough said
While I don’t disagree we gotta be honest and say Danzo did him super foul in every medium, like it’s just never a strict 1 v 1
@@ThunderGodTG I'll say maybe the weakest or 2nd weakest Uchiha to have Mangekyou Sharingan. Izuna is his competition. I don't think he is weak, just overrated
Izuna HIGH KEY might be taking that but I ain’t saying nothing 😂
@ThunderGodTG I am also not counting Fugaku here; if we are then he is the weakest imo. Izuna at least was killed by his brotherly clan who was the strongest tribe at the time and to their 2nd strongest ninja (Izuna being the 2nd best of the 2nd best). Seems the anime gave Fugaku a MS just like Trunks and Goten got SSJ
@@cheapR1 in the novel danzo literally says him and itachi are the most skilled uchiha of that time and he is obviously stronger than that itachi
And in the game version danzo straight up says it again shisui is the strongest uchiha at that time
Shisui isnt weak yall just dont know anything about him
Akaski vs advengers or in place of the advengers in infinity war or endgame.
42:50 Obito probably wants it for Sasuke. A few episodes before the Danzo fight he told Zetsu its meaningless if Sasuke surpasses Nagato but they cant control him. Perhaps he wanted to secure Sasukes allegience for the war which was evidently necessary.
The Implication in the Sasuke vs Danzo fight was that Danzo didn’t have Sharingan arm until after the massacre so i don’t know what makes you think he had it before that.
Sasuke “How many Uchiha did you have to kill to get that right arm of yours!?”
Danzo “It was all thanks to Itachi”
That was actually an anime only line, I will also add the sharingan on his arm don't really amp him or offer any substantial strength increase, as it's not as if Danzo got weaker each time an eye on his arm closes. So either way it makes actually no difference other than increasing Izanagi time, or the increase is so miniscule that it isn't noticeable as Karin makes no note of it, so regardless if he does or doesn't have them the Senju Arm is the main buff
I don’t disagree with you but what I’m saying is the anime is generally considered its own canon due to it adding a lot of stuff whereas the manga generally takes precedent. It also does not mean every eye on that arm came from the massacre he could have gotten some from it which I def think he did.
Considering Storm 4 in on the table, the only question is If he's using his PERFECT SUSANOO or not. That changes the outcome dramatically. Also, If he is using his perfect susanoo, is Itachi using his as well?
BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I HAD A SECTION WHERE I MEMED ABOUT THAT, BUT I CUT IT OUT LMAO
i mean since perfect susanoo arguably doesn’t need ems to use yea he should be able to use it
But he wouldn’t be able to maintain it long enough to actually be able to fight with it
Hed probably be able to get 1 attack off and then be completely drained of chakra
@@jayash2957 Other than Pain and Itachi, he wouldn't need more than a minute.
Bro with perfect susanoo he beats everyone.
Perfect susanoo wouldn't be an option because he has a MS not a EMS
Interesting that you made a video about my man Shisui because another content creator made a video about it an hour ago. Yeah it is your video, do what you want with it brother, in the end of the day this is all for fun.
I saw that video recorded and edited this video in that span of that hour
Shisui was very skilled and talented, has amazing footwork that makes him look like he's teleporting. He literally made itachi greater and was praised by many.
All people say is danzo one shot so he's fodder smh
@@ThunderGodTGbros got better shunshin than Shisui 🤯
Yo tg good video but I got a question do you think samehada can break koto because when you where talking about koto I think you didn’t talk about samehada enough because I think he can disturb kisame chakra and break him out and samehada knows how kisame acts normally. Plus killer bee does say to break out of genjustu you need a partner to break you out.
at 10:03 I feel like Kakuzu vs Deepa (from Boruto ) could've been a dope fight.. Idk who'd win... Maybe Kakuzu if he fuses with ALL 5 Elemental Hearts (instead of 2 ) like he did Vs Kakashi.
Bro doesn’t miss 🔥
Kakazu is actually a very interesting mixup for Shisui. I am curious. Sharingan works by the user controlling the other's chakra but Kakazu has multiple sources of chakra (hearts). Would this just outright nullify Shisui's ability to control? Would Shisui even be able to utilize Sharingan against the masks (which I doubt)? Man would be a very cool episode to see.
Shisui is a bit of an anomaly. He's believed to be the strongest Uchiha in his time, but the actual power level of Fugaku is unknown, so it makes the argument a dubious one.
There's also no confirmation that Danzo actually needed Root to defeat Shisui. We only know that he used them. But Danzo is smart. He wouldn't risk a long, bloody fight at all let alone before a potential coup if he had an easier method.
All-in-all, I think Shisui might be around the level of Kakashi at the Gaara Rescue arc or Pain Invasion. I wouldn't go higher than that with any level of certainty.
All you need to know is koto is unstoppable and he had susanoo
Fugaku is compared to jonin minato and the sanin in the novel
So that answers your question
As far as danzo needing the anbu considering in every version he brings them it’s pretty implied
He also has them poison him in game and in novel
The coup plan was actually built around shisui so by killing shisui he got the eye and postponed the coup
There is just alot yall don’t know because you haven’t read the novel
Shisui is one of those characters that was originally made as support for Itachi, and was killed early for the story, but then everyone ended up loving him. Kishimoto should’ve retconned him surviving the waterfall drop
That wouldn’t have made any sense and would have altered the course of the story in a way that wouldn’t have worked. Writers retconning happenings due to fans loving characters is fundamentally flawed. The story comes first.
Hidan vs Jonin gauntlet would be fire bro give Hidan a W
I feel composit sishui should probably be hanging around the sanib lvl above their respective base forms but below the amped states so add his hax and his susano he should be able to hold his own against several of the Akatsuki and only loses to the top tiers of the Akatsuki line obito pain and itachi
If this ends in any other way but Shisui getting stomped, then you are smoking DUST
When reading teh title I also thought he makes a video about shisui vs ALL of akatsuki at once lmao
@@barbarrox yeah I probably should’ve known better since that’d be a completely pointless video to make hahah
or you just don’t know shisuis scaling
@@jayash2957 Shisui got 0.3 seconds of screen time, no one knows his scaling, and Obito still washes
@@artheals8869 “was one of the most talented of the uchiha clan,yashiro said.”and the best ever at teleportation.He was always the first to take on missions for the sake of the clan.”
1.Shisui is stated the best ever at teleportation in the novel by yashiro.
(all statments are from the author through characters and are true until proven false.)
yashiro came up with the plan for shisui use speed to kidnap the 3rd for the revolt.
So this statement isn’t only referring to the clan.
2.The author narratively thinks yashiro has seen and knows enough to say it.
This includes minato they both faught in the same 2 wars and yashiro worked with obito who fed him information for the revolt.
considering the revolt plan is based around shisuis speed they definitely discussed it.
Implying obito also holds shisui speed in high regard.
(prove obito fed false information or lied)
This solidifies shisui having a faster base bodyflicker than minato.
(Minato could be faster outside of base obito only faught base minato)
raikage says jonin minato is faster than him
Shisui>=base alive kage minato>edo tobirama>jonin minato>raikage
Please stop using “isn’t close” for thumbnail titles. Honestly even if the videos are good, it feels very clickbaity and makes me not want to watch it at all.
I get it it’s not just you, it’s a trendy thing, but still it’s extremely contradictory to what the videos actually usually end up saying…
It’s just to run traffic through they’re not too bad, I don’t feel to bad not cause it’s clickbait but because I’m taking the time to make quality stuff so it’s alright if I get some extra clicks. + I clarify every time in the first minute of the video
W vid 🔥🐐
Shisui and his totally canon green susanoo from the storm games one taps pain, itachi, kisame, kakazu the god, and god shino.
Nice vid
Shisui doesn’t really use kotoamatsukami unless it’s a last resort. Plus anybody who scales high enough above shisui should be able to blitz him before he uses koto.
He used it against ao and not many characters are scaling high enough to bliz him just based on his speed and having sharingan
@@jayash2957 if he used it on ao ao would be a puppet…
@@obsidianquill7949 I said against him not on him…
@@jayash2957 well then you should’ve said against aos team. And it doesn’t change that shisui gets blitzed by like half the akatsuki
@@obsidianquill7949 “He was one of the most talented of the uchiha clan,yashiro said.”and the best ever at teleportation.He was always the first to take on missions for the sake of the clan.”
1.Shisui is stated the best ever at teleportation in the novel by yashiro.
(all statments are from the author through characters and are true until proven false.)
yashiro came up with the plan for shisui use speed to kidnap the 3rd for the revolt.
So this statement isn’t only referring to the clan.
2.The author narratively thinks yashiro has seen and knows enough to say it.
This includes minato they both faught in the same 2 wars and yashiro worked with obito who fed him information for the revolt.
considering the revolt plan is based around shisuis speed they definitely discussed it.
Implying obito also holds shisui speed in high regard.
(prove obito fed false information or lied)
This solidifies shisui having a faster base bodyflicker than minato.
(Minato could be faster outside of base obito only faught base minato)
raikage says jonin minato is faster than him
Shisui>=base alive kage minato>edo tobirama>jonin minato>raikage
It seems like you argued shisui was stronger than itachi, but that was because itachi was young and weaker. It's pointed out in the novel that itachi only really lost against shisui in their sparring matches was "when something weighed heavily on his mind", which wasnt very often. Shisui's death also triggered itachi's ms awakening which is a stat boost as well. Itachi then goes on to get stronger as he gets older before contracting the deadly disease. From this we could say itachi was easily the more talented one and became the stronger one. He was younger than shisui, and sparred with him at an even level in base.
if you read novel you would know
3tomoe itachi almost got killed by mukai twice while shisui did fine until he had to save itachi
and on the night of the massacre itachi straight up says its fortunate shisui died because he would’ve faught him to the end
Implying shisui relative to or above that version
when you take in consideration shisuis speed scaling he clearly isn’t relative to that itachi so he is above him
@jayash2957 fighting shisui till the end doesn't mean they're relative it just means shisui doesn't give up and is a fighter, unlike everyone else who pretty much gave up or got 1 shot. Just because shisui could put up a fight doesn't mean he's itachi's superior. The fight against those special ninja happened when itachi was like 8 years old so again that doesn't mean shisui is that much stronger as we know itachi also gets stronger as he ages and shisui had also gotten the boost in base acquired along with unlocking the ms. You could pretty much guarantee once itachi got his ms he surpassed shisui.
@@sarexui634 thats your interpretation not a fact
If you and another person fight to the end or to the death you are relative
You dont fight someone you are so much stronger than to the end that makes no sense
You would just kill them quick
especially itachi who had already made up his mind to kill everyone that night
itachi faught mukai as an anbu assignment he was not 8
getting ms doesn't make him stronger
Shisui had ms for 10 years
Just like sasuke didn't automatically pass itachi who had it multiple years
Itachi didn't automatically pass shisui who had it multiple years
@jayash2957 fighting to the end and fighting to the death are 2 completely different things and you'd be dumb to assume so. Itachi means shisui would fight till his own end or till his own death which would be in 1 shot for all we know the point is he was itachi's best friend and the only person other than sasuke that he truly cared for.
Itachi joined the album at like 10 so a 2 year difference isn't that big and it's annoying that you think a 2 year difference makes you right how petty and pathetic aew you? That doesn't change anything I've said It just means itachi was 2 years older. I'm still right and itachi was simply young and inexperienced at the time and got stronger as he got older. When sasuke lost all of orochimaru's cells he was only slightly weaker thanks to the boost he recieved from the MS. I never said the ms gave you an exponential growth in power, it just gives you some power. So if itachi and shisui are relative it could be enough to make itachi stronger but not by multiple times or anything. Why does sasuke have to automatically pass itachi to prove ms makes you stronger? That's dumb logic and you're dumb for saying it. Not only was sasuke DRASTICALLY WEAKER than itachi, but itachi never even showed his true power to begin with so obviously sasuke couldn't pass him, the boost given by ms isn't exponential as I've already stated. Itachi did pass shisui because they were relative and shisui already had his so it would make sense that itachi surpasses shisui. Sasuke wasn't close to itachi so it makes sense that he didn't surpass him. You're just being annoying and arguing semantics you have yet to prove me wrong
@@sarexui634 “He was one of the most talented of the uchiha clan,yashiro said.”and the best ever at teleportation.He was always the first to take on missions for the sake of the clan.”
1.Shisui is stated the best ever at teleportation in the novel by yashiro.
(all statments are from the author through characters and are true until proven false.)
yashiro came up with the plan for shisui use speed to kidnap the 3rd for the revolt.
So this statement isn’t only referring to the clan.
2.The author narratively thinks yashiro has seen and knows enough to say it.
This includes minato they both faught in the same 2 wars and yashiro worked with obito who fed him information for the revolt.
considering the revolt plan is based around shisuis speed they definitely discussed it.
Implying obito also holds shisui speed in high regard.
(prove obito fed false information or lied)
This solidifies shisui having a faster base bodyflicker than minato.
(Minato could be faster outside of base obito only faught base minato)
raikage says jonin minato is faster than him
Shisui>=base alive kage minato>edo tobirama>jonin minato>raikage
He’s forsure be able to win every scenario except the top 3 of the Akatsuki with itachi winning high diff and pain and obito winning low diff
For sure?? This entire video is hard wank not even 5 mins in and bros saying danzo stayed the same strength for like 13 years and didnt get any stronger with all the sharingan in his arm
You call it when their gazes intersect but that would mean that if they look at the same thing or if they look in any non opposite or non parallel direction the gazes intersect like lines and then that implies that a genjutsu can be cast when it can’t their eyes need to meet
No you’re thinking of a car intersection or two things crossing each other, the point of the intersection statement was Shisui and the other dudes eyes moving and for a brief moment intersecting or if you want to get into the definition “passing each other” the wording is a little funky though I will grant you
Shisuo got mopped by Danzo who got mopped by a half blind Sasuke that was weaker than Itachi, who is just one member of the Akatsuki.
Not really an anti feet in most situations almost every depiction of it he got cheesed
he was drugged and poisoned beforehand.
Facts fuck this video
Danzo need it to poisoned him and need it help to defeat a kid lmaooo
Didn't itachi become danzos puppet
@@Nubin2000Facts, they forget shisui also respected the leaf, why would he fight danzo and go against the leaf lol
Just wanna say I'd LOVE to see more videos like this on characters who are tough to scale. I think a Konan vid would be awesome but probably similarly difficult to determine
Given he was killed by Danzo, he aint beating the Paths of Pain
What could there possibly be to talk about for 43 minutes?!? Who might be immune to the total-mind-control version?? Who's got a fast Shunshin???!?
I'm reading the title of the video wondering who ever asked this question. Shisui is getting smashed on.
Shisui and Kakashi’s dad not being resurrected during the war is criminal. Why did we get the shitty gold and silver brothers no one cares about over these two goat’s.
The homie Danzo killed ? Nah imma head out
Shisuis fans hella talk o f tive when no water falls are around ♒️🌊
I'm not sure he Shisui is 5 Kate summit Danzo level since reason he didn't die multiple times from Sasuke is becouse of the many sharingan he got after he killed Shisui. Since he lost but held hi own to someone who lost while BSing someone doesn't mean Shisui is 5 Kate Sasuke level. If that logic worked then Kiba (who lost to Naruto in the chunin exams) is Edo Tensai 3rd Raikage level (who lost against Naruto in the 4th shinobi world war)
Shisui scales above danzo so where danzo scales is irrelevant shisui has statements able to bliz the third danzos rival
He also above base alive minato in bodyflicker
Is killer bee top 10 strongest modern day ninja with samehada? Chakra drain with a bijuu cloak is nasty
when was it stated shisui can spam koto the weaker version the danzo had had a 1 day cooldown and the second one had a 10 YEAR cooldown if u can show me where it said he could spam also obito just didnt really care that he couldnt use it and he easily wanted to the rinnegan more
the whole koto working differently thing in both eyes is a theory
It works the same just has 2 different methods of being cast similar to kamui
and the cool down thing is only for people other or things other than shisui
itachi says Shisui mangekyo takes ten years
Yes that can be interpreted as him saying shisui has a cooldown
But it could also be interpreted as shisui mangekyo/eye interference to the eye in his position inside the crow
Further proof is in the itachi light novel when explaining how koto works to itachi he doesn’t mention a cooldown or one of the eyes being weaker than the other
Body flicker isn’t your at point a or b it’s that you go from a to b very fast over and over. So the real body is in both places only half the time, (just so fast it might as well be at the same time) really that’s why the “after images” can hit things.
Where did you find a colored version of the manga?
Shisui ain't even really a character
It's important to mention, if there are any crucial strategic points to be hit with shuriken/kunai, Shisui would definitely go there. Like, rinnegan eyes of path-dudes, that were destroyed by edo-Itachi fighting with edo-Nagato.
I also believe, according to Itachi's belief 'every opponent has a weak point', Shisui is enough intelligent to find out those too and use his abilities to exploit them.
Aren’t we aware of the fact that the pain body’s under genjutsu don’t effect nagato cause ma and pa used one of the strongest genjutsus in the verse ( probably top 10) didn’t effect nagato himself 🤔
We actually don’t know what happened to Nagato, he could have gotten hit, Konan could have broken him out, maybe it didnt’t even effect him as much to all the pain bodies not being present.
@@ThunderGodTGwouldn't you need to count that in too ?because conan is canonically always there with him.
@@ThunderGodTGrinnegaan does not get affected by any genjutsu even if it is for kotoamatsukami and we don't even know limitation of koto as we only had heard some bragged shit about it which is not enough and his body flikker is just basic.
yo dude how busted would the rinnegan be in other series that are like naruto? or are in other series in general?
Let's be Real ,
Only Akatsuki Shisui is beating is Hidan and that's Only cause of Genjutsu 🤷
Hidan is Way above Shisui in terms of Raw Stats🙌
Akatsuki members are At Bare minimum High Jonin lvl in Stats + Special Ability.
Of course he is also very good at Body flicker.
He scales to Sharingan Kakashi in terms Taijutsu and he is Incredibly skilled in Controlling his Scythe to get Blood from a range 🤷
Hidan being the Slowest in Attack Speed among the Akatsuki is Irrelevant cause others have insane attack and attack Speed. It doesn't mean he is slower than others in a Taijutsu manner.
So , Hidan has a fair chance to beat Shisui if Shisui doesn't Outright go with Genjutsu from the get go.
Shisui had the potential but at the point of his Death , He is not Beating any other Akatsuki 🙌
Shisui was stated the strongest uchiha at that time
Above fugaku who is compared to the sanin and jonin minato
jonin minato was easily reacting to the raikage
And raikage straight up said minato was faster than himself
So you're telling me shisui who is above them isnt reacting to hidan or beating hidan without genjutsu!?
Fukagu isn't sanin or minato level and shishui got his Butt whoped by danzo lmao
@@jayash2957 First of all , Shisui was neither stated to nor is the strongest Uchiha of his time.
Fugaku is way superior. He was the head of the Clan.
Secondly , Fugaku was never stated to be even Close to the Sannin. He was compared to Minato.
Minato was stated to be Faster than ' Young ' Raikage.
But not stronger or anything.
Shisui is not on Minato's lvl and Minato in Raw stats is Kakashi lvl at best. And Hidan can go toe to toe with this Sharingan Kakashi.
So yah , Shisui's best chance is Genjutsu
@@SalmanulFarisi101
“No one in the Uchiha clan can match the abilities of Itachi and Shisui. If we can win those two over, it likely won’t be difficult to prevent the explosion of their clan. Just as you gave Shisui special privileges, it is necessary to give a certain amount of the same to Itachi.”
Danzo when talking to the 3rd hokage puts both itachi and shisui above fugaku and the 3rd didnt disagree
You just havent read the novel fugaku is compared to both the sanin and jonin minato
old raikage straight up says he is the second fastest after minato and the only version of minato he is ever 100% shown and confirmed to fight is jonin minato
Raikage wouldnt know how strong hokage minato is
So shisui>jonin minato> old raikage
@@arnavpandey5386
“Why should the fourth be Minato?!” The fierce voice on the other side of the closed sliding door stopped Itachi in his tracks. “You don’t know who could be listening.” His father’s even tone. “Keep your voice down, Yashiro.” “But I just can’t accept it. The only name other than Minato put forward for the selection of the Fourth was Lord Orochimaru! Why did not a single person say your name, Lord Fugaku?”
“Village officials don’t want the Uchihaclan standing on center stage. They said nothing in the village about all the work you did during the Great War, Lord Fugaku. Because of that, it was Minato and the Sannin, and even Hatake Kakashi -who has the sharingan despite not being a member of the clan-who shone. If the people can make a fuss over Minato and Kakashi, then your name should also-” “Enough.” Fugaku’s controlled voice cut Yashiro off.”
since i apparently lied about fugaku being Compared to them
@30:10 Itachi awakened the MS after shisuis death not after the massacre.
Fun video
5 kage summit Sasuke is 1 tier above Danzo. He fought him after the 4 kage (granted, he had his chakra/health replenished), and he was bullying him throughout the fight. Danzo only survived long enough because of izanagi. Danzo even tried to black mail Sasuke using Karin. When Danzo was dealt with, Sasuke had the strength to engage Kakashi and Naruto. My point is that, Shishui can't be at Sasuke's and Danzo's level, simply because they don't share a level! Shishui is probably at Danzo's level (he could be scaled below Danzo because Danzo didn't use the arm-sharingans or above him because he had a team established beforehand). I guess what I want to say is that 5 kage summit Sasuke scales above Shisui (even though koto amatsukami is a win condition for Shisui).
Shisui doesn’t scale below five kage summit sasuke or danzo
He actually can blitz both with his speed
In the novel he is implied fast enough to kidnap the third hokage
Who was stated the strongest on the 5 kage while alive
The version of the 3rd hokage shisui was gonna kidnap is actually stronger than the one shown in the show
Orochimaru says if he was 10 years younger he would’ve beat him in there fight
So shisui is stronger than the 3rd who was stronger than the 5 kage
@@jayash2957 I scaled him based on the anime. If I scaled him based on the manga, well, he is not even scaleable! Novels and games... I don't know, I haven't played or read them.
@@vrj8791 the anime filler you are referencing is based on the novel
they just didn’t follow it faithfully it makes more sense to scale him off the source material
google itachi light novel pdf vol 1 and 2 and read it free
So look Ik dudes aren’t gonna like this but I just wanna mention it cause you said composite Shunsui but in a what if filler where Sasuke stayed in the village in the anime and Shisui in that anime filler trained Sasuke during the time skip and taught him how to do Chidori Stream and master lighting release. So if you go off that Shisui may be comparable to or better than Hebi Sasuke in terms of lighting release I’ll let you guys do what you want with that.😂🤣
It's crazy cause I was gonna bring that up, but bro was like 40 During that and it was infinite tsukyomi filler so I strayed from it. SHIT WAS CRAZY THO
@@ThunderGodTG 😂😂😂yeah bro I wasn’t mad at it cause if you start giving him stuff like that he’s just start destroying Deidara and Kakuzu
20:36 wouldn't he not have the sense of touch since his body is a puppet? He can't feel pain besides his core getting throttled
He doesn’t feel pain but, he’s able to perceive images and hear things
“Shisui fighting the Akatsuki is NOT CLOSE”
proceeds to explain that most of them have a good chance of winning
Bro I gotta get paid I’m gonna be honest
@@ThunderGodTGLMAOOOO I get it, it’s just funny. Currently binge watching your channel at work
My man! I appreciate that!
I'm bothered by the composite Shisui thing but I'm a lot more bothered by the phrasing of your titles please make them more clear this is not just Shisui vs the Akatsuki
Off topic but do you think the shinsu senju or the tengai shinsei could topple the divine tree from the war?
Nah might Guy slammed into it and did NO Damage with his strongest attack they ain’t severing it
Shisui is basically Baby! Minato, he’s really strong but doesn’t have the DPS to go all the way. 😅
Do a killer b video
Bro got bullied by Danzo. He's def not swapping hands with Akatsuki
I don't think that Shisui can beat Deidara. Deidara can't easily be snuck upon to assassinate the way Shisui usually can with body flicker because he always keep animal style explosives on his body to go after people that get too close.
I think the most likely way Deidara wins is that he'll realize that Shisui can reposition anywhere on the field immediately so Deidara will saturate the place with explosive animals and mines until Shisui miss steps and gets caught in the blast radius of a bomb.
Also, in character, Shisui isn't dumb enough to fight Deidara alone if he can help it. He'd simply run away and come back with more reinforcements.
Deidara wouldn't fall to Genjutsu, and his superior taijutsu isn't a factor because Deidara's explosives wouldn't let him finish the job.
Remember, Sasuke only fought Deidara because he had the curse mark and thought that he could use Genjutsu on Deidara. It was coincidental as well that his lightning nullified Deidara's explosives.
Shisui doesn't have these things going for him.
Shisui has sharingan which can see chakra those bombs have chakra he will see them
Shisui is faster and has stronger genjutsu than sasuke
And in the databook does actually have lightning style
So he can nullify them aswell
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The man who was one shot by danzo
Lmao
WHUNDER WOD
Sasori can reattach his strings if im not mistaken
I wonder how Shisui's speed compares to Minato's and A 🤔
just imagine the feats if we had gotten a shisui manga
“He was one of the most talented of the uchiha clan,yashiro said.”and the best ever at teleportation.He was always the first to take on missions for the sake of the clan.”
1.Shisui is stated the best ever at teleportation in the novel and manga by yashiro.
(all statments are from the author through characters and are true until proven false.)
yashiro is credited for coming up with the plan for shisui use speed to kidnap the 3rd for the revolt.
So this statement isn’t only referring to the clan.
2.The author narratively thinks yashiro has seen and knows enough to say it.
This includes minato they both faught in the same 2 wars and yashiro worked with obito who fed him information for the revolt.
considering the revolt plan is based around shisuis speed they definitely discussed it.
Implying obito also holds shisui speed in high regard.
(prove obito fed false information or lied)
This solidifies shisui having a faster base bodyflicker than minato.
(Minato could be faster outside of base obito only faught base minato)
raikage says jonin minato is faster than him
Shisui>=base alive kage minato>edo tobirama>jonin minato>raikage
his speed does but people don't wanna acknowledge it because of how little he appears
Even tho narrativly characters like killer bee respect his speed
Author clrealy intends for him to be in that speed tier
Shisui clears most of the akutsuki as the breakdown details. Sharingan and susanoo are trump cards to many of the akutsuki members fighting styles. I wouldn’t exclude or ignore shisuis fire,wind and lightning elements just from lack of use in the show. He is hokage level easy. He only loses to nagato and itachi with Kisame being a good argument due to raw power and water counters. Also shisui beats objto bc obito is insanely overhyped. Obito is same level as kakashi when you think about it. And shisui beats kakashi every time.
Genjustu probably wouldn't work on Kisame as Samehada would snap him out of it most likely.
He got caught by Kurenai.
Mate kotoamatsukami can be used on rinnegan users they are not imune one kotoamatsukami from shisui and nagato will be on shisui’s side
You were outright wrong with what you said about Sharingan countering C0. It was lightning style that countered it which we don't have the evidence to say Shisui's lightning style is strong enough.
What I was implying and said was that the Sharingan could see the range of C4 as Deidara has to make that large version of himself that blows up and reveals a chakra radius, raiton is what disarms it but, any Sharingan user becomes aware of it, obviously that doesn’t constitute a W instantly, but it does take away an aspect of the technique that makes it so effective. I legit mentioned that lightning point too bruv come on
I don't think Itachi has an answer to Koto. He was under Kabuto's control when the crow broke him free using Koto. He woulda countered it then.
How is danio expressive he couldn’t keep up with a kid?
Shisui was strong but not OP.
He was strong for his age and had a mangekyo....
but I think in reality he was similar to neji... not in strength but that he was strong for a kid but not necessarily a kage level threat.
putting kid shisui vs the akasuki is not very realistic.
think about thay kid in jr high who was more athletic than everyone else if he died at tjat time everyone would say "OMG he was destined to be a pro he dominated everyone till thay car accident"
but since he didn't die in Jr high school he just became a mildly above average player in highschool maybe played a little in college.
What's crazy is people have itachi beating all of them except for obito. So imagine shisui who is much superior to itachi in literally every category smh
Shisui if he didn't die early would have been a real threat. Itachi got to outpace him as he lived longer, but as his sickness caught up with him I think Shisui would have come out on top almost every time. The spirit weapons are the biggest problem for Shisui in that matchup imo. Itachi might have problems even perceiving Shisui without his MS activated, as even his base Sharingan sight is failing badly in that fight with Sasuke. Ultimately we never get to see either of these guys at full power while alive so it's hard to say
He’s not superior to itachi.. it’s actually the opposite. Power creep happens he died to young
He was only superior to the what 13 year old itachi? Itachi got stronger
Yeah he was only superior to young Itachi. In fact when Itachi starts training with Shisui he even says, “I’m surprised there’s anything i can teach you.” Implying Itachi is already close to power to an anbu captain while having a shadow clone literally sitting in a classroom simultaneously.
Superior to 13 year old Itachi. Not to any version of Akatsuki we see in the present.
Kotoamatsukami should work on itachi
“What if Sasuke killed Naruto in the beginning of Shippuden, attained the Mangekyo Sharingan and then fought Itachi”🤔👀
Shisui is bodying kakazu idk why you are making anyyy case for him. Shisui definitely scales far above part 2 kakashi. Shisui took a huge blow to his power scaling so the story could progress, but it’s clear his character could not be alive during the events of Naruto or part 2 shippuden without majorly changing the story IE him bodying threats that progress the story. Shisui can potentially out hax the top 3 obito itachi pain but for sure stomps everyone else