I had a New Haven 600AT with a CLect choke, which is just another brand name for the Mossberg 500. Back in the early 80s, I hunted deer with buckshot and turkeys with 2 3/4" #6 and #4 lead loads with that gun. I don't recall ever loosing any deer or turkey I ever shot. I didn't know I needed a special gun. Back then, there really weren't any. I sold that gun years ago, but always missed it, until I found the same model gun with the same barrel, but in better condition than my old gun. I snapped it up. I've since patterned the gun with similar loads that I hunted with back then, and compared them to patterns I've shot with my modern, backbored, specialty choked guns. The pattern differences are astonishing. I am surprised I didn't lose game back then. But, I have a soft spot for that gun. I had a lot of great times with it and regret selling it. Now I have another that I won't let go. I even take it out now and then for squirrel and deer. I've not shot a deer since I got it, but its dropped many squirrels.
Now that’s what I’m talking about. Old School equiptment and chokes will still get it done and that is at 40 yards. I would like you to show the same load ,gun, choke at 30 yards.
I definitely want to do some more testing with it to see what it's capable of. It just goes to show that these old setups can still get it done as long as you know its limitations
Nice detail and proof testing. Goes to show as far as shotgun chokes go, old school seems to still work fine. I remember when if you wanted a different choke, you had to buy a new barrel at minimum. These were cutting edge I would guess in the 60s and 70s when I was a boy. Thanks for the video. Max
I definitely want to test this against a fixed choke barrel and a changeable choke barrel to see how it stacks up, but it at least seems to be off to a good start
A lot of people have said that waterfowl loads like steel and bismuth are the reason they don't like this setup, so I definitely plan on testing it to see how it actually does
Even 30+ years ago the C-Lect choke only offered a compromise between accuracy and convenience, choke design has come a long way over recent years. You can’t use steel shot through a C-Lect either.
They definitely aren't as good as the chokes we have now, but they still do what they were designed for. You can shoot steel through them though, as long as you are realistic with the constriction and stay between that cylinder and modified range. Don't crank the collar way down and you'll be fine
When it comes to steel or tss, yes, they are harder on chokes with tighter constrictions. When we test steel through it, I probably won't go tighter than about the modified setting, which is perfectly fine for this gun. As for TSS, I'm not as concerned necessarily because they tend to have much better wad designs, but the pressure the shot column creates is still definitely something to be careful about. I guess we'll see when we get there as for how tight I want to make it
I had a New Haven 600AT with a CLect choke, which is just another brand name for the Mossberg 500. Back in the early 80s, I hunted deer with buckshot and turkeys with 2 3/4" #6 and #4 lead loads with that gun. I don't recall ever loosing any deer or turkey I ever shot. I didn't know I needed a special gun. Back then, there really weren't any. I sold that gun years ago, but always missed it, until I found the same model gun with the same barrel, but in better condition than my old gun. I snapped it up. I've since patterned the gun with similar loads that I hunted with back then, and compared them to patterns I've shot with my modern, backbored, specialty choked guns. The pattern differences are astonishing. I am surprised I didn't lose game back then. But, I have a soft spot for that gun. I had a lot of great times with it and regret selling it. Now I have another that I won't let go. I even take it out now and then for squirrel and deer. I've not shot a deer since I got it, but its dropped many squirrels.
Yeah, they definitely don't compare to a modern setup, but they can still get the job done if you know its limitations
Now that’s what I’m talking about. Old School equiptment and chokes will still get it done and that is at 40 yards. I would like you to show the same load ,gun, choke at 30 yards.
I definitely want to do some more testing with it to see what it's capable of. It just goes to show that these old setups can still get it done as long as you know its limitations
Nice detail and proof testing. Goes to show as far as shotgun chokes go, old school seems to still work fine. I remember when if you wanted a different choke, you had to buy a new barrel at minimum. These were cutting edge I would guess in the 60s and 70s when I was a boy. Thanks for the video. Max
I definitely want to test this against a fixed choke barrel and a changeable choke barrel to see how it stacks up, but it at least seems to be off to a good start
You should try bismuth for the waterfowl test
A lot of people have said that waterfowl loads like steel and bismuth are the reason they don't like this setup, so I definitely plan on testing it to see how it actually does
Love your videos man! Came across one of your 835 videos and I think I’ve watched all of them now. Lol. I shoot a 835 myself with a kicks GT .670!
Thanks, glad you are enjoying the videos! I've got plenty more videos on the way with the 835, so stay tuned!
If it’s all you had, it would work. Hunting timber, 30 and in, it would be just fine. 👍
Even 30+ years ago the C-Lect choke only offered a compromise between accuracy and convenience, choke design has come a long way over recent years. You can’t use steel shot through a C-Lect either.
They definitely aren't as good as the chokes we have now, but they still do what they were designed for. You can shoot steel through them though, as long as you are realistic with the constriction and stay between that cylinder and modified range. Don't crank the collar way down and you'll be fine
I don't know if I would run t s s or steel through that choke. Don't forget, that thing is old school.
When it comes to steel or tss, yes, they are harder on chokes with tighter constrictions. When we test steel through it, I probably won't go tighter than about the modified setting, which is perfectly fine for this gun. As for TSS, I'm not as concerned necessarily because they tend to have much better wad designs, but the pressure the shot column creates is still definitely something to be careful about. I guess we'll see when we get there as for how tight I want to make it
Talk talk talk
Nice review ❤
Thanks!
Possible dumb question but when you say tighten down do you mean to the line or till you can turn it anymore?
I screwed it all the way down until the collar bottomed out since that is what gave us the most constriction to work with for a turkey pattern