Sticking to my trusty A7III, honestly. I was hoping for more, but honestly it looks solid. I think I'll wait another couple of years to upgrade, then hopefully snag a used A7IV for a lower price.
Hey Matt. I think I'm in the same shoes as you as I own Two a7siii. I'm thinking if it's worth it to buy this a7IV to replace my a7III as my backup third camera during ceremonies. Are you planning to get an a7IV in addition to your Two a7SIIIs for weddings?
I came straight here to get the info. Didn't feel like wasting time on other channels. I feel like they don't hit on the points I care about. Matt didn't disappoint. Thanks!
@@sosomelodies659 yes.. but thats a double hit. And there are cameras which produce very details 1080p images. But not the a7iv. You stuck with 4k24 and 4k60 crop. If 1080p would be better like on a Panasonic Camera, that wouldn't be an issue. Lots of Shows are still shot in 1080p by the way.
I loved this perspective on the A7iv, for me, as a hybrid shooter, it's a definite purchase and my pre-order is a done deal. I really appreciated your approach and how you utilised the limitations to work for you without compromising your standard. Great stuff.
Then they shouldn't have ever released the FX3. A7IV can have 4k 60fps no crop and A7SIII still would have so much more to offer in terms of video specific features. In my view that is a miss, badly examined and lazy approach. Which will only cost Sony potential buyers looking at competition offerings. So they did not protect A7SIII nor FX3, they probably will bleed sales of A7SIII, FX3 and A7IV as a result. At video side of things A7IV not only has some cool new features, but also some key missing things and I am not including the crop in 4k 60fps, so A7SIII is well distinguished for it to be safe from A7IV sales. But that's just my opinion...
@@DanasAnis Sony A7siii Pros. 4K 60fps 120fps Full Frame Larger Codecs. Less Rolling shutter Sony A7IV Pros 7k Over sampled Sensor Super 35 mode in video Newer Auto Focus System Focus Breathing Correction Bluetooth Transfer 33MP Photos I guess subjectively a7siii is great for video But the a74 is better all around camera.
Many new features of A7IV can be added to A7SIII via firmware update, leaving only 33mgpx sensor with its photography capabilities as an advantage and the super 35mm option for filming. Autofocus capabilities might be a tiny bit better than on A7SIII, but I don't think it is going to be revolutionary better, both cameras share lots of same dna, oversampling from 7k is okay, but 4k 120fps full sensor, 1080p at 240fps, better codecs alone make A7SIII stand out. Better viewfinder and screen also makes it stand out. Different market aims I think, there is no reason not to include 4k 60fps FF in A7IV. If it's too much to handle 33megalixels, pixel binning could be a acceptable compromise. Which makes A7SIII stand out, 4k 60fps ff no pixel binning. It's a miss and not a great decision. And this is a new camera, it would be strange if it didn't have improvements in areas like autofocus etc. Anyway, sales will be big, because it's a great camera overall, however they could have been even greater numbers... A7IV makes more confused reactions than excitment. Somehow A7III positioned it's line into hybrid shooters league's choice because of how balanced and great overall it was for the time, which I guess introduced bigger expectations from people (which were not that big, basically they could have introduced same sony a7iii with 4k 60fps ff and 10 bits, some autofocus updates, vari angle screen, that's all...) and Sony marketing guys decided not to use the moment it seems... leaving an open window.
I don't know why people are acting like super 35 mode is a shortcoming or a downgrade in quality. Super 35 is often preferable for run and gun / doc work because it's the right balance between shallow DoF and a enough depth to keep things reasonably in focus. This is especially crucial when shooting over-cranked because when you buzz focus, it's much more noticeable because it's out of focus 2.5x longer. Super 35 is the standard look for motion pictures, Full Frame is a specialty look. No shade on you if that's the look you need for your work but there are lots of us video professionals out here that WANT Super 35 4k 10 bit and are glad this camera is finally out.
I shoot 4k60p with my xt3/xt4 and i am very happy with the image quality. The only reason i was waited so long a7iv is full frame 4k60p. I am buying 2 canon r6's.
sold my a7iii after having it for nearly 3 years, was waiting for this release to see what the a7iv offers but looks like im going with the R6 as well.
And if you have a used aps-c and have a bunch of aps-c lenses, This is a nice way to step up to Full Frame. At least you get 4K/60, and in the future one can update the lenses one by one. I will sure do this.
At the end of the day, you buy a full frame to shoot in full frame. If going APSC lenses is the train of thought then might as well wait for the next APSC 4k60 camera at a cheaper price
I'm a Sony user since DSLT alpha cameras and the only time I saw a firmware update bringing improved stuff was on a6000 the XAVC-S codec coming after a huge demand from people. So I have my doubts, unless people REALLY ask for it.
For anyone who is rocking the A7siii, this is a very good b-cam. But those who are still starting out or work as a second shooter, I believe this is the perfect system for them.
The A74 covers a lot of what I wanted. I come from a A6400 and love the sigma trio lenses. But I wanted a crop camera with 4K 60. The A74 covers this plus has the full frame option as well. And the rolling shutter improves at crop mode. And I get IBIS. I’m sold. Going to ass a sigma 24-70 and 70-200 and maybe the sigma 14-24
The crop is definitely a deal breaker for shooting run and gun. It is as if you're still using an apsc camera, not to mention having to carry or even buy extra lenses.
it's definitely a deal breaker for me, I assumed the higher pixel count may be too much for the single processor but yeah, I was geared up to buy this and I won't now, possibly as a B cam
The Tamron 17-70mm f2.8 lens is awesome and PERFECT for this camera if you're shooing 4k60. That's 25mm-105mm f2.8 in that 4k60p crop mode. Get it. Cheap yet great quality lens. Nice work Matt.
@@DanCThorpe Well, grab a 1.4 lens for some beauty shots for sure if you'd like, but as an all around lens for a wedding, 2.8 is plenty and that zoom range is pretty solid. Just my opinion. :) Everyone has their own style so there's no "one size fits all" lens but it's okay to find the beauty in the background...its there.
@@AllBecauseHeAsked fair enough. I guess then why buy a full frame camera body. It's just an odd decision on Sony part. They won't be getting my money this time around anyway.
The battery life is better on the A7 IV most likely due to the lower resolution display and EVF. It's unlikely that anything else in the camera is causing a noticeable battery life difference during video recording due to the fact that they share the same processor and other components. Unless you were recording to SD on the A7 IV and CFExpress A on the A7sIII. Great video! Very informative! Let's hope these software features come to A7s III users!
Thanks for the awesome review. I actually like the crop at 4k 60p (or at least I don't mind it at all) because I use tamron 17-28mm and the crop would give me extra zoom (yes I can do that in editing). My only concern is the rolling shutter which I had with the a7iii (just have to be careful when shooting some clips). Thanks again 🙏🏻
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Thank you 4 the video, it was really good! I just heard that the a7iv frame I ordered has arrived and I can pick it up. At the same time, I ordered a 16-35 GM 2.8 lens and I’m relieved to hear that the crop doesn’t look so bad with that lens. Thanks again! Channel subscribed.
Thanks for this detailed review, the most fruitful one on UA-cam. I really dissapointed when I see 4K 60p on crop. I 100% agree your reasoning. I was shooting 4K 60p with my Osmo pocket and Mi Mix3 smartphone, which were generally not sufficient to use. In addition I waited this camera for more than a year. But your 16-35mm shots are very convincing. Thank you in advance because I feel I see the light from end of tunnel. I think I will go for it with a 16-35mm. Best regards
Sharing same body does come with some pros! Same battery grip, same cage.. And you can always put mark on top which camera is which, like when you have two same cameras. Anyway, nice review man! Thumbs up!
It crops because: 1) not enough processing power for k to 4k in 4k60 2) there is not enough resolution in 16:9 part of the sensor for pixel binning, which the a1 has (There needs to be 33.2mp in the 16:9 part for it to be able to pixel bin) 3)its specifically 1.5x because now apsc lenses can be used.
not that exited, I´m more of a hybrid I do both photos and Video (at the same time) and even tought it´s a nice upgrade from my A7iii the 4k 60p crop is a real downside, not going to jump to canon or anything but just wait, an A7 with those same 24mpxs and 4k 60p no crop would have been a non brianer for me, but the crop is a problem at least for me
The 4K 60fps crop is two fold. 1) It helps limit overheating. That 7k to 4k heats things up by a lot. So that helps. 2) As you said, it is to keep people wanting the A7s III. They aren't going to make a camera that is better than their recent release, for $1000 less.
Good video Matt. Too bad about 4K at 60 fps in apsc. In all the videos on the presentation of this camera they are commenting on it. I do not believe that it is not an artificial limitation not to step on the A7SIII. The latter already records at 120fps in 4K. I would agree with other colleagues to make some kind of boycott and press for them to implement 4K at 60fps in fullframe even in a paid firmware update. They can't tease us like this.
Hello Matt. Thank you for the review. I own a Sony FX-3 and wanted something for a B cam. This seems to hit all the spots being 10 bit and price is easier then another FX3 or A7S III.
Just one query, is the video cropped in 1080... 120 fps too? Also does the real time eye auto focus work in 120 fps? Would be a great help if you can letme know. Would accordingly decide if I want to buy this camera :) Thanks
Honestly, most of the video made me feel the A7IV was the right choice, right up until the end. Prices here in Canada, currently with a special the A7IV is about 40% cheaper than the A7SIII. I need this camera for a film project, so functionality is of paramount importance, but budget is also an important consideration. Most of the film will be shot outdoors, scenic places, think travel documentary. This being the case, I would really appreciate an opinion on which camera to go for. Thanks!
Best a7 IV review for wedding filmmakers - thanks Matt. Was thinking of switching over from Canon but the 4k60 crop killed it for me 😥. Already experiencing the crop on the 5D4 switching between 1080 and 4k and it’s not something I want again in my next cam. The compression changes going to a wider lens so closeups may not be as flattering (i.e. 50mm vs. 35mm for bridal prep or couple portraits).
Using that S35 Crop allows for using cheaper APS-C glass too. I have a Tamron 17-70 2.8 for Sony E APS-C, so about 24-105 F4 equivalent on Full Frame, meaning I wouldn't even need to re-invest in more epensive wider angle glass to compensate for the crop.
I think the crop is there for 4K60 because they didn't use a stacked sensor, the BSI sensor doesn't have that fast of a readout (also why the rolling shutter is worse). Stacked sensors are more expensive to make, so to keep the costs down they had to go with BSI.
I can't wait to get rid of my a7iii's and start hybrid shooting properly again! once we got the a7s3 I don't like matching footage with my a7iiis for weddings it's going to be nice to be able to get back to that!
Yeah I am the same! I wanted S cine tone, flip screen and 4:2:2 more than anything so I still pre ordered. But I have an a7siii so I knew I was 90% gonna get this cam if it got these features
The problem with the 4K 60 crop is that it requires a change in lenses to account for it. This is the wrong way round. We invest in lenses and the bodies come and go. I don’t want to swap my 24mm GM, for example. I get the business strategy but it’s a shame that there isn’t a lower end full frame 4K 60 capable Sony camera that takes great photos also. It’s the a7s iii taking a hit on photo resolution or the a1 taking a sizeable hit on the wallet. Maybe the solution is just to wait until the next thing and ignore the GAS.
The A7iv has a dual gain sensor, contrary to what you said. Another video showed at what iso it switched to the 2nd gain in s-log3, I don't remember the value but it was way below 12800. Why 4k60 is cropped? Very easy answer: sensor readout speed. The sensor cannot read the uncropped 16:9 region 60 times per second, it can do it like 40 times per second only, which is too slow, that's why there's a crop. The A7siii with its lower MP has a much faster readout speed which is why it can do 4k60 and even 4k120 with a small 1.1x crop (because again it's not fast enough to read 4k120 without the crop).
I rock an A7S III as my A Cam, and this announcement is just about what I expected. I still have one of the A6300s that I used to dual-wield for weddings, and this A7IV is the final step to replace that APS-C system. It’s got great video and photo features, and while it’s a bummer that it can’t do 4k60 in full-frame, that’s why I have the A7SIII anyway. The A7IV will be an excellent choice for me as a B Cam with adequate video capabilities (remember, still 10-bit 4:2:2) and better photography capabilities (which the A7S III leaves a lot to be desired on).
@@Donbros How about this a7IV as a replacement C camera over a7iii? I currently own Two a7siii as my A and B camera and using a7iii as my C camera, 6400 as my D cam. Do you think this is worth replacing a7iii as a C camera?
The lights are on: Finally after 3 years the epic A7 series has a new face. The party started at Canon, especially in the design and development department of the R6. They do not want to forget cannibalism with the Canon R, and the 1.5 crop. Nicon took a deep breath, Fuji and Panasonic started sly smiles ...
Not that I have the money, but if I did I'd go for the IV over the SIII just because of the photo capabilities. Photography is mostly a hobby for me, but one I love, so having a camera that's solid with both is key for me. That's why I have an A7III now. If it was just about video, yeah I'd get the SIII. But at the end of the day I want that extra photo resolution more than non-cropped high frame-rate.
4k60 in crop is just sad at this point they made a big mistake and still only 1080 120fps is just another kick like this is just a a7iii with new menus. do they have firmware update chances to give ff? or is that a dumb question
Regarding the 4k60 crop. The issue is rolling shutter on that 33mp sensor, which is evident in video on all modes besides 4k60. I reckon they'd have to beef up the processor to accommodate a 33mp 4k60 without too much compromise. I personally wished they stay at 24mp or even 20mp (like the R6), and do 4k60 full frame
Great video Matt. I heard in another video, that the camera has a dual gain iso, but the result is the same like you said, because the second step is lower than at the SIII at ISO 3200.
Ive pre ordered and am so amped ! I’m okay with getting a new wide angle g master lense; I’m getting super high quality video and photo at just under 5,ooo Look most people still don’t have displays that are 120 FPS. This is easily the best choice with the touch screen and compensation for focus breathing.. literally etc. if sony gives a firmware update that rivals good for them for keeping a loyal client base… if they don’t…. Just means they know how good their new cameras are always going to be. Tech is moving faster in progression that’s not recent news; we have to just appreciate where tech is going and how we have this all in the palm of our hand…. SD cards v30 lmao this is a no brainer
Why does the 4K 60 crop on the a7Iv suck? Crop vs full frame is hugely overrated for video. Most every ARRI and RED camera. as well as the Sony and Canon cinema cameras have sensors roughly the same size as an APS-C sensor, the same size the a7IV is using in crop mode. Do those cameras suck because they are using "crop" sensors? Its a non issue as long as you have the proper lenses to factor in the crop. Id MUCH rather have the oversampled 7K in 4K 24 and 30 on the a7IV then the barely average 4.2K on the A7S III, its just cleaner and more sharp, especially if any cropping is required. a7IV all day.
On the subject of overheating: There is a difference between 4k60p with downscaling processing of 33 megapixels vs. 12 megapixels like on the a7sIII. There is definitely more heat generated here, even if it is the same cooling system.
In my humble opinion the 4K 60 crop doesn’t bother me because my a7IV won’t be my A cam. I already own an FX3 aka my main work horse and a7Siii as my B cam so this camera will be amazing as a C cam or even B cam and again I’m a person that loves super 35 crop I use it all the time so even as an A cam the crop won’t bother me and to your point Matt with a 16-35 even a 20mm 1.8 G prime the crop is not an issue.
When talking about SD cards, you told all modes are recordable to a V30 SD card. the camera can record up to 600mbps or 75Mbps. V30 cards only guarantee up to 30Mbps min writing speed, only V90 cards guarantee consistent performance above 75Mbps (90Mbps min)
Sony absolutely limited the 4k60 on purpose. I've been holding up on buying a Canon R6 until the A7IV came out. Honestly, this crop pisses me off enough that I'm going with Canon.
R6 4k60 has a crop too, and is line skipped, so it's really 3840x1080p and then converted back to 3840x2160. A7iv 4k60 has a 1.5x crop but it's oversampled from 4.6k. If you compare video quality from R6 vs A7iv in 4k60, the A7iv will look a lot sharper and less noisy.
@@youuuuuuuuuuutube I would 10000% prefer a little less quality and not having to change lenses or carry multiple cameras Also, I would buy the r5. A camera that can actually do both photo and video. I have the a7siii and it is not a professional photo camera at 12mp
@@youuuuuuuuuuutube the crop on the R6 is negligible but the crop on A7IV is APSC. I don't care that it's sharper with that big of a crop nothing can make up for it in my mind.
Hi Matt. Do you ever feel/hear the sensor moving around inside the A7IV? I just got mine (finally!) and realized when powered off, and no lens attached, when I tilt it to the left 90° I hear the sensor hitting the side of the camera. Doesn't happen when turned on. It's my understanding this is normal IBIS behavior. The feeling of movement didn't concern me as much as the audible sound that the sensor is constantly hitting the body when gently tilting. Anyway. Was just curious if this is normal for other A7IV users.
Matty! We NEED a video editor's perspective on the M1 Pro/Max! Can we trust it as our main editing workstation, or do we need to have a dedicated desktop?
Cropped 4K 60 is a shame, but they had to protect the a7siii somehow. I'm not sure just removing 4K 120 would be enough, considering the camera other than that is pretty similar. Worst rolling shutter, but that never bothered me as I film pretty static. Not sure why every expects all the functionality of an A1 and A7Siii on a much cheaper camera?
In my opinion it would be better if instead of 33MP it would be again at 24MP (like a7iii) and have 4K 60p (for videoshooters), a more bright and detailed LCD screen (for both videoshooters and photographers) and faster fps burst speeds (for photographers). Sensors are quite expensive and I believe that would be possible as a tradeoff. But the marketing of MPs has made lots of other people and manufacturers considering that you can't have a new camera upgrade in lineup without a new sensor. Also I don't understand why to protect the a7Siii. It's a previous model in line and it's supposed to have better quality materials to qualify for it's price. If they manage to put out a better camera at a lower cost, they simply should do it and drop also the cost of the previous camera. Then release a7Siv at the current a7Siii's price. Even Appla does that and Apple isn't exactly pure. It's not ethical to hold back things that the camera is capable to do and we certainly shouldn't accept those things.
Thats a clear change of strategy and one that didn't serve Canon that well. They used to be all about getting as many people into the eco-system as possible by offering up as much as possible. I'd be more interested in keeping the prosumer level customers happy than worrying about whether some prospective A7sIII customers decide to go for the AvIV instead. Hopefully they continue offering up new bodies every 3 years because the A7 5 looks like it will be my next upgrade.
I love my R6, but the last three times I’ve used it, the overheating caused limitations for me. Crop or not, I gotta say the lack of overheating issues makes this camera really tempting for me to make the switch to Sony 🤔 But then there’s gear to sell, lenses to buy, and lots more money to be made. 😆 Maybe I need to up my prices. 😂🤣
@@Visions-yh3qk definitely on my purchase list. I’ve always loved Canon colors and still think they’re #1 in auto focus, so I think I’ll invest in a Ninja and more RF glass for now. Who knows about a year from now though. Things change quickly in the camera gear world these days, so you never know what’s coming next!
@@Jsmelser0321 it's heaven sent for the R6. I was considering switching until I purchased an Atomos. Also helps with post as theres no need to create proxies. Etc.
I shot 4k60 on my R6 all the time. Because I never know when I need to slow mo down my family videos. Second because the rolling shutter drops to 15ms and Im ok with pixel binning. Now I do have A74 on pre order because I find the Sony lens options are better and less expensive compared to the Canon RF native lenses. I hate adaptors so I sold all my EF lenses.
Great review. I agreed with your dislike of the cropped 4K 60 as the main thing to dislike. But it was interesting to hear how you felt about it when shooting with the 16-35mm f2.8. I own the A1 and A7s III and am hoping Sony updates the firmware to bring us all the nice updates in here like focus breathing compensation, focus mapping, eye detect for animals and birds in video, etc. I really liked the switch between stills, video and S&Q. One other thing I'd like Sony to do would be Shutter Angle to make it easier to switch frame rates. I do have presets for those for higher frame rates, but if you switch between them, you lose your manual exposure settings.
20:28 If you really wanted to, you could just get APS-C lenses and only shot in super 35 cropped mode for video. This would save a lot of weight and cost, and yield very high quality video results. For the best quality stills, you would still want the full-frame lenses, but this might be an acceptable alternative.
I've spent 3 years investing in FF lenses. For a FF system. Now I've got to invest in APS-C lenses and pay more for the body? Better to just take the whole lot down to park Cameras and trade in so I can go back to Canon.
Whoa. Not sure anyone else has gone as hard at Sony for the 4K60p crop as you did here 👏🏼 Their lower MP and higher MP both have it in full frame. I appreciate your unique review highlighting all the features included and also those lacking. A7R IV user here sticking with my plan to add either an A7S III or FX3 for video. Dang it, Sony.
It's an artificial limit having the 4k 60 crop. It's made me consider the a7siii. Now I am thinking of keeping my a7iii. Will probably end up with 2x A7iv though :)
I don't think it is. The sensor has a 26ms readout speed so can't do 4k60 without a crop (or line skipping but perhaps the sensor isn't capable of that).
@@FantabMedia if they made that faster it would make rolling shutter better too. All most people wanted was those two things + 10 bit video which at least we got. This being said my current plan is to get two.
One thing I just found out about it, been a while since I use a Sony Camera. The battery door doesn't have the flap for dummy battery, to do long run, like powered off a V-mount rig or AC Power. Same door can be found at Sony A7RIV, and A9II.
@@whoismatt it does. i just tried it and didn't work out. The battery must inside the camera in order to use usb power, mine overheat in less than 5 min, with or without usb power, using original Sony battery. I wasn't even recording I just doing the first initial custom setting setups. Like assigned custom buttons. I was getting it ready for a wedding, it going back in the box. I'll be using my Fujifilm X-T3 instead.
The crop is definitely a deal breaker for me (I have the a7siii) but this would be such a great camera for someone starting out or anyone doing both photo and video
I reeky wandering Why Sony held back 4k60p full frame? Sony a7siii already have 4k120p and we don't ask 4k120p in Sony a7iv. Sony a7iv will not hurt Sony a7siii.
ugh.....4k60 is kind of the minimum spec they need to hit with this. Especially since R6 can do it with minimal crop. 4k60 should be there in SOME FORM without a crop. Even if it's back to the 8 bit or whatever. (but honestly that shouldn't be necessary.....this HAS to be a firmware cripple) It has the new processor....so it has to be capable of doing it.) Leave the a7siii with 4k120 10 bit. Honestly though for the price their asking I think 4k60 is a must. It's a very hard sell at that price WITHOUT 4k60 uncropped.
😁 Are you getting the a7 IV?!
P.S. This video and all the a7 IV footage was colored with my presets! Get them here: whoismatt.com/luts
Probably the a7s3 only. Cz i already own a @7m3.
To expensive for what it is
Sticking to my trusty A7III, honestly. I was hoping for more, but honestly it looks solid. I think I'll wait another couple of years to upgrade, then hopefully snag a used A7IV for a lower price.
Hey Matt. I think I'm in the same shoes as you as I own Two a7siii. I'm thinking if it's worth it to buy this a7IV to replace my a7III as my backup third camera during ceremonies. Are you planning to get an a7IV in addition to your Two a7SIIIs for weddings?
I have 3 a7iii’s right now. Put one up for sale and pre-ordered the a7iv an hour after the announcement video
I came straight here to get the info. Didn't feel like wasting time on other channels. I feel like they don't hit on the points I care about. Matt didn't disappoint. Thanks!
I'm glad some people are put off by the crop 4k 60p and won't be getting one. It puts my pre-order that much further ahead.
I agree. Not a huge deal. I was bothered way more by the fact that you can’t go APSC mode on the A7Siii.
I see a bigger Problem in 120fps is in only 8bit 4:2:0
@@silklion7375 That's 1080p right? Not really issue because going to 1080 you're already talking a hit on image quality.
@@sosomelodies659 yes.. but thats a double hit. And there are cameras which produce very details 1080p images. But not the a7iv. You stuck with 4k24 and 4k60 crop. If 1080p would be better like on a Panasonic Camera, that wouldn't be an issue. Lots of Shows are still shot in 1080p by the way.
@@sosomelodies659 anyway. I just try to turn you off so ur not stealing my pre order 😉
I loved this perspective on the A7iv, for me, as a hybrid shooter, it's a definite purchase and my pre-order is a done deal. I really appreciated your approach and how you utilised the limitations to work for you without compromising your standard. Great stuff.
the crop is a dealbreaker, they could have put other limitations in place if they were worried about a7siii sales
Would trade 33 MP to 24 MP for 4k60 FF instantly
Michael 100%
@@Michael-dx8qz exactly
@@Michael-dx8qz GH5 thnen?
@@Michael-dx8qz no way. This is primarily a photography camera. If video is that important to you get the other model.
Sony protecting its A7siii clearly but this is a great entry-level hybrid camera! Time to download some Matt Luts! thanks
Then they shouldn't have ever released the FX3. A7IV can have 4k 60fps no crop and A7SIII still would have so much more to offer in terms of video specific features. In my view that is a miss, badly examined and lazy approach. Which will only cost Sony potential buyers looking at competition offerings. So they did not protect A7SIII nor FX3, they probably will bleed sales of A7SIII, FX3 and A7IV as a result. At video side of things A7IV not only has some cool new features, but also some key missing things and I am not including the crop in 4k 60fps, so A7SIII is well distinguished for it to be safe from A7IV sales. But that's just my opinion...
@@DanasAnis Sony A7siii Pros.
4K 60fps 120fps Full Frame
Larger Codecs.
Less Rolling shutter
Sony A7IV Pros
7k Over sampled Sensor
Super 35 mode in video
Newer Auto Focus System
Focus Breathing Correction
Bluetooth Transfer
33MP Photos
I guess subjectively a7siii is great for video
But the a74 is better all around camera.
Many new features of A7IV can be added to A7SIII via firmware update, leaving only 33mgpx sensor with its photography capabilities as an advantage and the super 35mm option for filming. Autofocus capabilities might be a tiny bit better than on A7SIII, but I don't think it is going to be revolutionary better, both cameras share lots of same dna, oversampling from 7k is okay, but 4k 120fps full sensor, 1080p at 240fps, better codecs alone make A7SIII stand out. Better viewfinder and screen also makes it stand out. Different market aims I think, there is no reason not to include 4k 60fps FF in A7IV. If it's too much to handle 33megalixels, pixel binning could be a acceptable compromise. Which makes A7SIII stand out, 4k 60fps ff no pixel binning. It's a miss and not a great decision. And this is a new camera, it would be strange if it didn't have improvements in areas like autofocus etc. Anyway, sales will be big, because it's a great camera overall, however they could have been even greater numbers... A7IV makes more confused reactions than excitment. Somehow A7III positioned it's line into hybrid shooters league's choice because of how balanced and great overall it was for the time, which I guess introduced bigger expectations from people (which were not that big, basically they could have introduced same sony a7iii with 4k 60fps ff and 10 bits, some autofocus updates, vari angle screen, that's all...) and Sony marketing guys decided not to use the moment it seems... leaving an open window.
@@DanasAnis it wont cost them nothing. It's geared to people like me that mostly take just pictures and occasionally video.
@@craigman7262 I think that's what people are missing
I don't know why people are acting like super 35 mode is a shortcoming or a downgrade in quality. Super 35 is often preferable for run and gun / doc work because it's the right balance between shallow DoF and a enough depth to keep things reasonably in focus. This is especially crucial when shooting over-cranked because when you buzz focus, it's much more noticeable because it's out of focus 2.5x longer. Super 35 is the standard look for motion pictures, Full Frame is a specialty look. No shade on you if that's the look you need for your work but there are lots of us video professionals out here that WANT Super 35 4k 10 bit and are glad this camera is finally out.
I shoot 4k60p with my xt3/xt4 and i am very happy with the image quality. The only reason i was waited so long a7iv is full frame 4k60p. I am buying 2 canon r6's.
Good thing they protected their a7siii sales by making you switch to canon. Big brain time!
sold my a7iii after having it for nearly 3 years, was waiting for this release to see what the a7iv offers but looks like im going with the R6 as well.
And if you have a used aps-c and have a bunch of aps-c lenses, This is a nice way to step up to Full Frame.
At least you get 4K/60, and in the future one can update the lenses one by one. I will sure do this.
At the end of the day, you buy a full frame to shoot in full frame. If going APSC lenses is the train of thought then might as well wait for the next APSC 4k60 camera at a cheaper price
I imagine the focus breathing compensation will come to the a7siii with a firmware update.
Really hope so!
hoping for this as well, coz i have the 35GM and Im having thoughts to let got of it due to its focus breathing
Unless it depends on having a higher-res sensor for the crop (and hopefully continued oversampling while it's on)?
I'm a Sony user since DSLT alpha cameras and the only time I saw a firmware update bringing improved stuff was on a6000 the XAVC-S codec coming after a huge demand from people. So I have my doubts, unless people REALLY ask for it.
If I were a betting man, and I am, I bet it comes with the A7SIV
For anyone who is rocking the A7siii, this is a very good b-cam. But those who are still starting out or work as a second shooter, I believe this is the perfect system for them.
Exactly. I am thinking of purchasing this camera as a bcam of my Fx3 specially for interviews. It will be so easy to match them!
Thanks! This is EXACTLY my use-case!
I agree with everything you talked about related to shotting at 4k 60fps with cropped mode!!! 😩😩😩
Just buy 12-24 and stop crying
The A74 covers a lot of what I wanted. I come from a A6400 and love the sigma trio lenses. But I wanted a crop camera with 4K 60. The A74 covers this plus has the full frame option as well. And the rolling shutter improves at crop mode. And I get IBIS. I’m sold. Going to ass a sigma 24-70 and 70-200 and maybe the sigma 14-24
I love videos when they start with the conclusion. Thank you you earned a like and a sub ❤
The crop is definitely a deal breaker for shooting run and gun. It is as if you're still using an apsc camera, not to mention having to carry or even buy extra lenses.
As an a7siii user, I miss the ability to crop in 4k, have to change lenses more
@@rattoh I use longer zoom lenses like 24-105 and 28-200. Even f/4 is enough in low light.
it's definitely a deal breaker for me, I assumed the higher pixel count may be too much for the single processor but yeah, I was geared up to buy this and I won't now, possibly as a B cam
The Tamron 17-70mm f2.8 lens is awesome and PERFECT for this camera if you're shooing 4k60. That's 25mm-105mm f2.8 in that 4k60p crop mode. Get it. Cheap yet great quality lens. Nice work Matt.
2.8's too slow. You'd want T1.4 on a crop sensor.
@@DanCThorpe Well, grab a 1.4 lens for some beauty shots for sure if you'd like, but as an all around lens for a wedding, 2.8 is plenty and that zoom range is pretty solid. Just my opinion. :) Everyone has their own style so there's no "one size fits all" lens but it's okay to find the beauty in the background...its there.
@@AllBecauseHeAsked fair enough. I guess then why buy a full frame camera body. It's just an odd decision on Sony part. They won't be getting my money this time around anyway.
@@DanCThorpe They "could've" enabled full frame 4k60 on this one but I'm guessing they didn't to keep the A7siii relevant. Oh well.
@@AllBecauseHeAsked Yeah I guess the problem for me the Canon R6 can do 4k 60 with a negligible crop. They've matched the price but not the specs.
The battery life is better on the A7 IV most likely due to the lower resolution display and EVF. It's unlikely that anything else in the camera is causing a noticeable battery life difference during video recording due to the fact that they share the same processor and other components. Unless you were recording to SD on the A7 IV and CFExpress A on the A7sIII. Great video! Very informative! Let's hope these software features come to A7s III users!
Thanks for the awesome review.
I actually like the crop at 4k 60p (or at least I don't mind it at all) because I use tamron 17-28mm and the crop would give me extra zoom (yes I can do that in editing).
My only concern is the rolling shutter which I had with the a7iii (just have to be careful when shooting some clips).
Thanks again 🙏🏻
Yep that's the silver lining
But when you do it in editing you crop probably to HD. But when it cropped in the sensor you still get 4K footage.
Dude, I can tell just by looking at your mimics that you can be quite annoying for people around you in your every day life. Probably sarcastic like hell, perfectionist, critical and (maybe?) sometimes hysterical a little bit, BUT - your knowledge, you eloquence and your ability to make easy to follow synthesis out of shit loads of information - well, these are quite amazing. You use the exact amount of words you need to keep it relevant, and nothing else. I don't care how much of a pain in the neck you are in your every day life, right here where I need it, you F-ing nailed it. Thanks a lot! This is World Class teaching skill.
Matt, I did it 🤣 finally switched from fuji and don't regrate at all.
Thanks Matt!
This is a good camera, it’s the perfect of the a73!
I still in love for my 7s3 😍
Thank you 4 the video, it was really good! I just heard that the a7iv frame I ordered has arrived and I can pick it up. At the same time, I ordered a 16-35 GM 2.8 lens and I’m relieved to hear that the crop doesn’t look so bad with that lens. Thanks again! Channel subscribed.
Thanks for this detailed review, the most fruitful one on UA-cam. I really dissapointed when I see 4K 60p on crop. I 100% agree your reasoning. I was shooting 4K 60p with my Osmo pocket and Mi Mix3 smartphone, which were generally not sufficient to use. In addition I waited this camera for more than a year. But your 16-35mm shots are very convincing. Thank you in advance because I feel I see the light from end of tunnel. I think I will go for it with a 16-35mm. Best regards
Sharing same body does come with some pros! Same battery grip, same cage.. And you can always put mark on top which camera is which, like when you have two same cameras.
Anyway, nice review man! Thumbs up!
It crops because:
1) not enough processing power for k to 4k in 4k60
2) there is not enough resolution in 16:9 part of the sensor for pixel binning, which the a1 has
(There needs to be 33.2mp in the 16:9 part for it to be able to pixel bin)
3)its specifically 1.5x because now apsc lenses can be used.
Loved the cinematography.
A big thumbs up for the review.
very informative, thanks for this cool and great review of this A74 camera
These reviews are epic every time. So informative dude 🤘🏻🤙🏻
Great review Matt! Thank you!
not that exited, I´m more of a hybrid I do both photos and Video (at the same time) and even tought it´s a nice upgrade from my A7iii the 4k 60p crop is a real downside, not going to jump to canon or anything but just wait, an A7 with those same 24mpxs and 4k 60p no crop would have been a non brianer for me, but the crop is a problem at least for me
Off topic but that shot at 21:00 is sick.
All i wanted was a Sony APSC with 10bit, i guess that in a roundabout way i got it
The Crop is the reason, why I will go with the R6. Bad move Sony. Bad move.
Great review Mr Matt!! I’m a happy a7S III user, but I’m looking for a solid B cam that can do better photos. This seems to be perfect.
The 4K 60fps crop is two fold. 1) It helps limit overheating. That 7k to 4k heats things up by a lot. So that helps. 2) As you said, it is to keep people wanting the A7s III. They aren't going to make a camera that is better than their recent release, for $1000 less.
Sony cripple hammer at their best.
I think the Crop factor in 4k 60fps mode is because of CPU limitations. It simply can't compute 7k resolution into 60fps.
Then don't make it 7K.
Good video Matt. Too bad about 4K at 60 fps in apsc. In all the videos on the presentation of this camera they are commenting on it. I do not believe that it is not an artificial limitation not to step on the A7SIII. The latter already records at 120fps in 4K. I would agree with other colleagues to make some kind of boycott and press for them to implement 4K at 60fps in fullframe even in a paid firmware update. They can't tease us like this.
Hello Matt. Thank you for the review. I own a Sony FX-3 and wanted something for a B cam. This seems to hit all the spots being 10 bit and price is easier then another FX3 or A7S III.
Love your positive happy attitude when you review or make such videos. It's such a pleasure. Thank you Matt... once again :)
Just one query, is the video cropped in 1080... 120 fps too? Also does the real time eye auto focus work in 120 fps? Would be a great help if you can letme know. Would accordingly decide if I want to buy this camera :) Thanks
Honestly, most of the video made me feel the A7IV was the right choice, right up until the end. Prices here in Canada, currently with a special the A7IV is about 40% cheaper than the A7SIII. I need this camera for a film project, so functionality is of paramount importance, but budget is also an important consideration. Most of the film will be shot outdoors, scenic places, think travel documentary. This being the case, I would really appreciate an opinion on which camera to go for. Thanks!
Best a7 IV review for wedding filmmakers - thanks Matt. Was thinking of switching over from Canon but the 4k60 crop killed it for me 😥. Already experiencing the crop on the 5D4 switching between 1080 and 4k and it’s not something I want again in my next cam. The compression changes going to a wider lens so closeups may not be as flattering (i.e. 50mm vs. 35mm for bridal prep or couple portraits).
Using that S35 Crop allows for using cheaper APS-C glass too. I have a Tamron 17-70 2.8 for Sony E APS-C, so about 24-105 F4 equivalent on Full Frame, meaning I wouldn't even need to re-invest in more epensive wider angle glass to compensate for the crop.
Focus breathing compensation only works with a few lenses. The a74 HAS dual iso!
I think the crop is there for 4K60 because they didn't use a stacked sensor, the BSI sensor doesn't have that fast of a readout (also why the rolling shutter is worse). Stacked sensors are more expensive to make, so to keep the costs down they had to go with BSI.
thank you matt for your information about alpha 7 mark 4
I can't wait to get rid of my a7iii's and start hybrid shooting properly again! once we got the a7s3 I don't like matching footage with my a7iiis for weddings it's going to be nice to be able to get back to that!
Crop doesnt bother me one bit... wow i love this cam and finally 10bit 4:2:2!!!
Yeah I am the same! I wanted S cine tone, flip screen and 4:2:2 more than anything so I still pre ordered. But I have an a7siii so I knew I was 90% gonna get this cam if it got these features
Great review Matt! A real life review…
The problem with the 4K 60 crop is that it requires a change in lenses to account for it. This is the wrong way round. We invest in lenses and the bodies come and go. I don’t want to swap my 24mm GM, for example.
I get the business strategy but it’s a shame that there isn’t a lower end full frame 4K 60 capable Sony camera that takes great photos also. It’s the a7s iii taking a hit on photo resolution or the a1 taking a sizeable hit on the wallet.
Maybe the solution is just to wait until the next thing and ignore the GAS.
Or you could take 3 steps back
The A7iv has a dual gain sensor, contrary to what you said. Another video showed at what iso it switched to the 2nd gain in s-log3, I don't remember the value but it was way below 12800.
Why 4k60 is cropped? Very easy answer: sensor readout speed. The sensor cannot read the uncropped 16:9 region 60 times per second, it can do it like 40 times per second only, which is too slow, that's why there's a crop. The A7siii with its lower MP has a much faster readout speed which is why it can do 4k60 and even 4k120 with a small 1.1x crop (because again it's not fast enough to read 4k120 without the crop).
Can you make a video on all the lenses you use for wedding film making ?
I rock an A7S III as my A Cam, and this announcement is just about what I expected. I still have one of the A6300s that I used to dual-wield for weddings, and this A7IV is the final step to replace that APS-C system. It’s got great video and photo features, and while it’s a bummer that it can’t do 4k60 in full-frame, that’s why I have the A7SIII anyway. The A7IV will be an excellent choice for me as a B Cam with adequate video capabilities (remember, still 10-bit 4:2:2) and better photography capabilities (which the A7S III leaves a lot to be desired on).
I think like 90% sony a7siii user thinks of this as potential b cam haha, i spam this everywhere too XD
the crop is whats preventing me from picking it up as a main cam
@@Donbros How about this a7IV as a replacement C camera over a7iii? I currently own Two a7siii as my A and B camera and using a7iii as my C camera, 6400 as my D cam. Do you think this is worth replacing a7iii as a C camera?
@@Donbros Literally exactly my thoughts and as someone who shoots 50/50 photo video, it's got me excited!
@@justcarryonnow 100% dude if not just for the S-cinetone and updated colour science of this generation of sony Cams.
The lights are on: Finally after 3 years the epic A7 series has a new face. The party started at Canon, especially in the design and development department of the R6. They do not want to forget cannibalism with the Canon R, and the 1.5 crop. Nicon took a deep breath, Fuji and Panasonic started sly smiles ...
Just to say that i am the happiest man on earth with this Sony A7 IV ! I can shoot a video with a bird coming toward me! ☀️👍. Greetings from France .
Not that I have the money, but if I did I'd go for the IV over the SIII just because of the photo capabilities. Photography is mostly a hobby for me, but one I love, so having a camera that's solid with both is key for me. That's why I have an A7III now. If it was just about video, yeah I'd get the SIII. But at the end of the day I want that extra photo resolution more than non-cropped high frame-rate.
4k60 in crop is just sad at this point they made a big mistake and still only 1080 120fps is just another kick like this is just a a7iii with new menus. do they have firmware update chances to give ff? or is that a dumb question
Honestly the 10-bit is a big upgrade too over the a7iii. Colors are much improved. I agree about the crop though
Oh new AF, new 10bit, new LCD (nice), new customization...not a A7iii but...4k60p crop! Yeah that pain in the ass.
Regarding the 4k60 crop.
The issue is rolling shutter on that 33mp sensor, which is evident in video on all modes besides 4k60.
I reckon they'd have to beef up the processor to accommodate a 33mp 4k60 without too much compromise.
I personally wished they stay at 24mp or even 20mp (like the R6), and do 4k60 full frame
Great video Matt. I heard in another video, that the camera has a dual gain iso, but the result is the same like you said, because the second step is lower than at the SIII at ISO 3200.
Ive pre ordered and am so amped ! I’m okay with getting a new wide angle g master lense; I’m getting super high quality video and photo at just under 5,ooo Look most people still don’t have displays that are 120 FPS. This is easily the best choice with the touch screen and compensation for focus breathing.. literally etc. if sony gives a firmware update that rivals good for them for keeping a loyal client base… if they don’t…. Just means they know how good their new cameras are always going to be. Tech is moving faster in progression that’s not recent news; we have to just appreciate where tech is going and how we have this all in the palm of our hand…. SD cards v30 lmao this is a no brainer
Loved this video man
Why does the 4K 60 crop on the a7Iv suck? Crop vs full frame is hugely overrated for video. Most every ARRI and RED camera. as well as the Sony and Canon cinema cameras have sensors roughly the same size as an APS-C sensor, the same size the a7IV is using in crop mode. Do those cameras suck because they are using "crop" sensors? Its a non issue as long as you have the proper lenses to factor in the crop. Id MUCH rather have the oversampled 7K in 4K 24 and 30 on the a7IV then the barely average 4.2K on the A7S III, its just cleaner and more sharp, especially if any cropping is required. a7IV all day.
On the subject of overheating: There is a difference between 4k60p with downscaling processing of 33 megapixels vs. 12 megapixels like on the a7sIII. There is definitely more heat generated here, even if it is the same cooling system.
but in essence, will it look better on the a7IV assuming we have similar focal lengths?
In my humble opinion the 4K 60 crop doesn’t bother me because my a7IV won’t be my A cam. I already own an FX3 aka my main work horse and a7Siii as my B cam so this camera will be amazing as a C cam or even B cam and again I’m a person that loves super 35 crop I use it all the time so even as an A cam the crop won’t bother me and to your point Matt with a 16-35 even a 20mm 1.8 G prime the crop is not an issue.
What about 30 minutes recording time limit ?
May be i missed that part of your video.
Great review 👍
Thanks! No limit
When talking about SD cards, you told all modes are recordable to a V30 SD card.
the camera can record up to 600mbps or 75Mbps.
V30 cards only guarantee up to 30Mbps min writing speed, only V90 cards guarantee consistent performance above 75Mbps (90Mbps min)
This is my concern too. I don't think what he says in the video about the SD cards is accurate
Sony absolutely limited the 4k60 on purpose. I've been holding up on buying a Canon R6 until the A7IV came out. Honestly, this crop pisses me off enough that I'm going with Canon.
😂 We'll just put a limit on our new camera so it protects our a7siii sales. That will work!
This is a deal breaker for me
R6 4k60 has a crop too, and is line skipped, so it's really 3840x1080p and then converted back to 3840x2160.
A7iv 4k60 has a 1.5x crop but it's oversampled from 4.6k.
If you compare video quality from R6 vs A7iv in 4k60, the A7iv will look a lot sharper and less noisy.
@@youuuuuuuuuuutube I would 10000% prefer a little less quality and not having to change lenses or carry multiple cameras
Also, I would buy the r5. A camera that can actually do both photo and video.
I have the a7siii and it is not a professional photo camera at 12mp
@@youuuuuuuuuuutube the crop on the R6 is negligible but the crop on A7IV is APSC. I don't care that it's sharper with that big of a crop nothing can make up for it in my mind.
Hi Matt. Do you ever feel/hear the sensor moving around inside the A7IV? I just got mine (finally!) and realized when powered off, and no lens attached, when I tilt it to the left 90° I hear the sensor hitting the side of the camera. Doesn't happen when turned on. It's my understanding this is normal IBIS behavior. The feeling of movement didn't concern me as much as the audible sound that the sensor is constantly hitting the body when gently tilting. Anyway. Was just curious if this is normal for other A7IV users.
Yeah this is normal don’t stress 😜
Great review! Thanks!
Matty! We NEED a video editor's perspective on the M1 Pro/Max! Can we trust it as our main editing workstation, or do we need to have a dedicated desktop?
Cropped 4K 60 is a shame, but they had to protect the a7siii somehow. I'm not sure just removing 4K 120 would be enough, considering the camera other than that is pretty similar. Worst rolling shutter, but that never bothered me as I film pretty static. Not sure why every expects all the functionality of an A1 and A7Siii on a much cheaper camera?
In my opinion it would be better if instead of 33MP it would be again at 24MP (like a7iii) and have 4K 60p (for videoshooters), a more bright and detailed LCD screen (for both videoshooters and photographers) and faster fps burst speeds (for photographers). Sensors are quite expensive and I believe that would be possible as a tradeoff. But the marketing of MPs has made lots of other people and manufacturers considering that you can't have a new camera upgrade in lineup without a new sensor.
Also I don't understand why to protect the a7Siii. It's a previous model in line and it's supposed to have better quality materials to qualify for it's price. If they manage to put out a better camera at a lower cost, they simply should do it and drop also the cost of the previous camera. Then release a7Siv at the current a7Siii's price. Even Appla does that and Apple isn't exactly pure. It's not ethical to hold back things that the camera is capable to do and we certainly shouldn't accept those things.
Thats a clear change of strategy and one that didn't serve Canon that well. They used to be all about getting as many people into the eco-system as possible by offering up as much as possible. I'd be more interested in keeping the prosumer level customers happy than worrying about whether some prospective A7sIII customers decide to go for the AvIV instead. Hopefully they continue offering up new bodies every 3 years because the A7 5 looks like it will be my next upgrade.
@@perseusarkouda Totally agree. Would have been happy with the same 24mp sensor.
Fantastic video. THANK YOU !!
I love my R6, but the last three times I’ve used it, the overheating caused limitations for me. Crop or not, I gotta say the lack of overheating issues makes this camera really tempting for me to make the switch to Sony 🤔
But then there’s gear to sell, lenses to buy, and lots more money to be made. 😆 Maybe I need to up my prices. 😂🤣
Atomos Ninja?
@@Visions-yh3qk definitely on my purchase list. I’ve always loved Canon colors and still think they’re #1 in auto focus, so I think I’ll invest in a Ninja and more RF glass for now. Who knows about a year from now though. Things change quickly in the camera gear world these days, so you never know what’s coming next!
@@Jsmelser0321 it's heaven sent for the R6. I was considering switching until I purchased an Atomos. Also helps with post as theres no need to create proxies. Etc.
I shot 4k60 on my R6 all the time. Because I never know when I need to slow mo down my family videos. Second because the rolling shutter drops to 15ms and Im ok with pixel binning. Now I do have A74 on pre order because I find the Sony lens options are better and less expensive compared to the Canon RF native lenses. I hate adaptors so I sold all my EF lenses.
Is the 1080p really good like a7siii??
FINALY a pretty good camera! just as we going to step into the 4K60 world.. nikon is peeking around the corner with 8K60.. damned :D
Wow this UA-cam camera man is HANDSOME
HOT COMMENTER ALERT
4k 60p with crop 🤬😡
Whyyyyyyyyyuuu ???
No 4K 60 FF no go. Simple as that. Just get the sIII. That’s all the review should say
Lol 5 second review
@@whoismatt sometimes it’s that simple. You can fill the rest with beard maintenance tips 🧔🏻♂️😂
@@TheNanofiber This would be an excellent form of content.
Great review. I agreed with your dislike of the cropped 4K 60 as the main thing to dislike. But it was interesting to hear how you felt about it when shooting with the 16-35mm f2.8. I own the A1 and A7s III and am hoping Sony updates the firmware to bring us all the nice updates in here like focus breathing compensation, focus mapping, eye detect for animals and birds in video, etc. I really liked the switch between stills, video and S&Q. One other thing I'd like Sony to do would be Shutter Angle to make it easier to switch frame rates. I do have presets for those for higher frame rates, but if you switch between them, you lose your manual exposure settings.
Crop shouldn’t be a problem though to be honest. Yes it limits view but it doesn’t board off or anything when loaded into software for editing.
20:28 If you really wanted to, you could just get APS-C lenses and only shot in super 35 cropped mode for video. This would save a lot of weight and cost, and yield very high quality video results. For the best quality stills, you would still want the full-frame lenses, but this might be an acceptable alternative.
I've spent 3 years investing in FF lenses. For a FF system. Now I've got to invest in APS-C lenses and pay more for the body? Better to just take the whole lot down to park Cameras and trade in so I can go back to Canon.
What camera and lens you used in this video.
You looks great! .
Great video! I have yet to find anywhere a review on the 1080p on the a7iv, I wonder if the 1080p is a big step up from the a7iii 1080p?
Also wondering this. Siii 1080 is oversampled from 4k, does the A7iv do this?! Would really like to know.
want this details as well, does 1080p with 10bit 422 ?
Me too. I would like to know. All the reviewers focuses on 4k specs. But didnt show whether 1080 also have 4:2:2 10-bit.
Really bummed about the 4K crop :(
Same :(
The A7 IV DOES have dual gain ISO at 800 and 3200. for S-LOG3...
yea i want a no crop 4K60
and a apsc posibility to switch on and off
I think a7lll better...don't bay a7iv... 60 fp 4k crop
Whoa. Not sure anyone else has gone as hard at Sony for the 4K60p crop as you did here 👏🏼 Their lower MP and higher MP both have it in full frame. I appreciate your unique review highlighting all the features included and also those lacking. A7R IV user here sticking with my plan to add either an A7S III or FX3 for video. Dang it, Sony.
So I’d be able to use my sigma 16mm 1.4 while filming in 4k 60?
Yes
How did you get the camera so early?? Also loved the early conclusion. I watched the whole video anyway though ;)
Begged Sony 😜
The rolling shutter on the A7 IV is similar to the A7 III. Ouch.
It's an artificial limit having the 4k 60 crop. It's made me consider the a7siii. Now I am thinking of keeping my a7iii. Will probably end up with 2x A7iv though :)
😂 such a rollercoaster of decisions
I don't think it is. The sensor has a 26ms readout speed so can't do 4k60 without a crop (or line skipping but perhaps the sensor isn't capable of that).
@@FantabMedia if they made that faster it would make rolling shutter better too. All most people wanted was those two things + 10 bit video which at least we got. This being said my current plan is to get two.
The panasonic lumix s5 offers more at a cheaper price. I know people will say auto focus but to be honest its not bad at all .
One thing I just found out about it, been a while since I use a Sony Camera. The battery door doesn't have the flap for dummy battery, to do long run, like powered off a V-mount rig or AC Power. Same door can be found at Sony A7RIV, and A9II.
I’m pretty sure the a7iv supports usb-c power delivery and can be powered and recharged from the usb-c port
@@whoismatt it does. i just tried it and didn't work out. The battery must inside the camera in order to use usb power, mine overheat in less than 5 min, with or without usb power, using original Sony battery. I wasn't even recording I just doing the first initial custom setting setups. Like assigned custom buttons. I was getting it ready for a wedding, it going back in the box. I'll be using my Fujifilm X-T3 instead.
@@Franckystudios turn on the high overheat mode and you won't deal with overheating
@@whoismatt thanks. Its holding now.
The crop is definitely a deal breaker for me (I have the a7siii) but this would be such a great camera for someone starting out or anyone doing both photo and video
If you already have the a7siii you're set, but if you need a B or C cam I think it would work great
Really hoping they do firmware updates for the menu for past cameras.
I just peed on myself from the Focus Breathing Correction feature.
Take my money
Pretty sure the a7iv does have a dual gain sensor, it just kicks flips at 3200iso instead of 12800
Would love to use your luts on the Panasonic Gh5s, Panasonic S1h and Sony A74 in Super 35mm mode
I reeky wandering Why Sony held back 4k60p full frame? Sony a7siii already have 4k120p and we don't ask 4k120p in Sony a7iv. Sony a7iv will not hurt Sony a7siii.
ugh.....4k60 is kind of the minimum spec they need to hit with this. Especially since R6 can do it with minimal crop.
4k60 should be there in SOME FORM without a crop. Even if it's back to the 8 bit or whatever. (but honestly that shouldn't be necessary.....this HAS to be a firmware cripple) It has the new processor....so it has to be capable of doing it.)
Leave the a7siii with 4k120 10 bit.
Honestly though for the price their asking I think 4k60 is a must. It's a very hard sell at that price WITHOUT 4k60 uncropped.
Yeah even if 8bit still good if 4k 60p ff. We don't really need 10bit cuz we can survive with 8bit in a very long time till now.