Do these need a 2s lipo at 12v? I am sorry if this sounds stupid but I am new to the LiPo scene and need some advice on how to run a pair of these motors.. I searched "12v 2s lipo" on google and all of them looked way to big to be practical in a nerf gun. Also what voltage do a pair of these even need? Someone please reply Thanks
No one could think this, but i ALSO come from the model train community. And *BRASSED* bearings on *ANYTHING* makes it really *SMOOTH* and *DURABILITY +9001!!!!!*
Those look and sound awesome, I'll certainly get a couple of pairs, but they are going to be really current hungry for a 2S 130 motor, but I'd buy some Turnighy Graphene 75c 2s LiPo just to run them in my Hyperfire and Regulator with a bigger battery. Overall a great motor and worth getting a nice cage and flywheel setup to truly shine because they really deserve it.
I don’t use those community tab things. Love that the camera didn’t even capture the barrel speed. Amazing precision engineering guys. All involved in these motors should be very very proud.
Hey any good 3s batteries to fit in a stock rayven tray and can run a pair of kraken motors if not just a 2s that can run fangs reVAMPed and fit in the stock rayven tray.
You should do your own version of trolling Tony at the upcoming EndWar, and get rid of some of your extra Motors by spreading them throughout the community
I think the 9/16 guide is whats keeping the fps lower than expected. However I've yet to see anyone use a 19/32 brass guide which is slightly larger in diameter. Could you give this a try & post a vid on it...!?!?
Rare earths actually aren't bad for the earth, they are just found all piled together in deposits and they are almost exactly the same, so it is hard to refine just one.
Justin Yeang depends on Crush. Stock they will top out at 120ish, low crush at 135ish, and high crush 160ish. This is true for all modern Nerf Motors other than the first gen MTB motors.
These are so cool. It's great that you don't have to use mosfets(??). Even cooler is your logo on them so when future generations of mergers see these your legacy still lives on(only if some1 steamed you as you are the immortal nerfer lol). TkEZ»UK
Brushless motors are controlled with motor controllers and microcontrollers (or maybe even servo testers), not mosfets. Brushless motors in custom geometry cages have many, many, advantages over the Eclipse cage. You’re really comparing apples to oranges. You can run all FK motors designed for Nerf off a 21A Omron.
I snapped up a pair. I was buying a pair to support Drac when I saw the Neo Rhino's for the same price. I was tempted but I stuck with the Fangs because they are rated 2s which gives me the flexibility to keep things HvZ friendly or bing off a 3s. Looking forward to putting these in my classic blue Stryfe sleeper build.
Rho Lall you misunderstood. 3S motors don't spin faster than 2S motors when running on their normal batteries. A 2S motor will spin faster than a 3S with both on a 3S. Nerf motors are designed to spin at about 36K RPM at a certain voltage. All 2S motors spin around 36Kish on a 2S LiPo. All 3S motors spin at 36Kish on a 3S LiPo. A 2S motor on 3S will spin at around 50Kish, which outside of Eclipse cages and Rapidstrike Pushers is useless. A 3S motor on 2S however will spin at around 24Kish.
Ian Pugh thanks for the detail. That's my understanding. I'm going to play around with the cage. I'm going to start with a high crush morpheus cage. I agree the over spin of a 3S is less efficient, I'm hoping the high crush can make up for some of that. It's a secondary blaster, so I'll probably run it on 2s most of the time. The novelty of switching in a 3s is more cool than performance.
"Better" is subjective. They match the FPS of Neocats on every setup we could test (don't have eclipse, but Drac tested that). The only thing they lack VS MTB Neo motors is spin up time which is a fraction of a second difference with heavy wheels. Also, they have ball bearings, Neo Rhinos do not.
Kinda glad that I still haven't done any flywheel modding yet because new hotness keeps coming out. My Rayvens, Stryfes and Jyn Erso are going to be very happy.
Jason Jeff He means don't run Trustfires. Ever. If you're going to be installing new motors, put in the extra 3 minutes and wire to a battery that won't melt your flesh off if you look at it wrong.
Cosmilite there are better motors. This video is just an ad. Drac is associated with Foamblast, so he doesn't even mention MTBs NeoRhinos which are better 130 size motors.
Hey Drac, just a curiosity from the Demon from the UK, how crazy would running a rapidstrike with 3 of these in be? (I'm assuming the old "tri-blades" like Nos ran three 180 blades using one for the pusher)
RCLegends UK seriously. Unless you are very invested in 2S, or you are using an Eclipse Cage, there is literally no reason to go with these over NeoRhinos.
55500 RPM is way too fast for standard flywheels. 36Kish is where you want to be fore everything but Eclipse cages, anything much faster just burns your darts. You cannot get the same amount of torque at 36Kish RPM from a Fang as you get from a NeoRhino.
Is it me or was there a faint Roblox 'Oof' at the end of the intro
Ur right
Yeah
Timestamp?
And no I doubt it was a sound effect from Roblox, they probably just sounded similar
I heard it
Who needs to shell cut anymore?! High crush and ball bearings for the masses! Lets go, friendos!
will the work in nerf stryfe
FoamBlast ima get me some of these bad boys
Hey I don't want to talk about anything sensitive but where is the draculina?
Ethan Vaughan yea
We are all wondering 🤔 been a while..
1st Look: Jangular
2nd Look: Out of Darts
3rd Look: Foam Blast
4th Look: Drac
This might have been prerecorded
Do these need a 2s lipo at 12v? I am sorry if this sounds stupid but I am new to the LiPo scene and need some advice on how to run a pair of these motors.. I searched "12v 2s lipo" on google and all of them looked way to big to be practical in a nerf gun.
Also what voltage do a pair of these even need?
Someone please reply
Thanks
7.4
Drac does the blaster have some sort of recoil? Lol every time you pulled the trigger your right arm and the blaster moved back
I think he is moving it out of the way so he can see the chronograph reading...
I want that bracelet.
No one could think this, but i ALSO come from the model train community. And *BRASSED* bearings on *ANYTHING* makes it really *SMOOTH* and *DURABILITY +9001!!!!!*
Those look and sound awesome, I'll certainly get a couple of pairs, but they are going to be really current hungry for a 2S 130 motor, but I'd buy some Turnighy Graphene 75c 2s LiPo just to run them in my Hyperfire and Regulator with a bigger battery.
Overall a great motor and worth getting a nice cage and flywheel setup to truly shine because they really deserve it.
So would they work for a rayven
Sadly, no. They only really fit in the Elite Alpha Trooper.
Yes
LordDraconical
K thanks
No they only fit in the jolt!
ChosenWarrior 05
LOL
I don’t use those community tab things.
Love that the camera didn’t even capture the barrel speed. Amazing precision engineering guys. All involved in these motors should be very very proud.
Woah, those motors are practically singing!
What are the best flywheel cage and flywheels for these?
Jerk friends are the best. They make life fun
NO! There's too much current draw.
Hey any good 3s batteries to fit in a stock rayven tray and can run a pair of kraken motors if not just a 2s that can run fangs reVAMPed and fit in the stock rayven tray.
Damn, they look amazing! Might have to grab a pair of fangs for my rayven/apollo integration
1.2 Nah, NeoRhinos are better.
@@Atlasworkinprogress hellcats too
Thinking about building a Jupiter on a 3s .95,would you recommend these motors or the kraken. I've noticed these motors have a higher rpm
You should do your own version of trolling Tony at the upcoming EndWar, and get rid of some of your extra Motors by spreading them throughout the community
I think the 9/16 guide is whats keeping the fps lower than expected. However I've yet to see anyone use a 19/32 brass guide which is slightly larger in diameter. Could you give this a try & post a vid on it...!?!?
where is the draculina
They might be going through a hard time let them figure it out.
Rare earths actually aren't bad for the earth, they are just found all piled together in deposits and they are almost exactly the same, so it is hard to refine just one.
Oh I thought that the earth was bad for the earth( this be a joke) ((have to put this cuz it be the inter web))
Could someone link where I can buy that LiPo he uses?
Thanks. (EDIT: I mean the first grey turnigy one)
What setup was used in the stryfe in this video? On other videos, when on a 2S they reached 160fps, but this was 130fps.
Justin Yeang depends on Crush. Stock they will top out at 120ish, low crush at 135ish, and high crush 160ish. This is true for all modern Nerf Motors other than the first gen MTB motors.
These motors are OUTSTANDING. I love them. Well done
Can they work in the snicas cage? (Sry for misspellings if there is any)
best part is that they are really affordable
but geez, so high pitched!
It hurts so bad to see the 2s battery hanging during the firing demonstration. At least the 3s sat on the table
How does the Motors change the performance? What specification has been charged?
These are so cool. It's great that you don't have to use mosfets(??). Even cooler is your logo on them so when future generations of mergers see these your legacy still lives on(only if some1 steamed you as you are the immortal nerfer lol). TkEZ»UK
Time for a haircut, Drac! 😂
He derives his vampire powers from his hair. Once he reaches his mid back he will be able to fly with his vampire powers.
in a 2 stage setup, would hellcats (1) + fangs rev(2) pairing makes much more sense than hellcats (1) + Titan Hyperions (2)setup?
No wonder they're sticking to each other. They're full of magnets. Also, 200 fps? That's paintball levels of velocity.
These motors are near and dear to my heart and my teeth
I absolutely love the look of that stryfe! Hope to see it at an SENC war some day.
Brushless motors are controlled with motor controllers and microcontrollers (or maybe even servo testers), not mosfets. Brushless motors in custom geometry cages have many, many, advantages over the Eclipse cage. You’re really comparing apples to oranges. You can run all FK motors designed for Nerf off a 21A Omron.
Would this fit in the worker flywheel cage for the regulator
No, they only fit in Retaliators
You should try to do a regulator overhaul
XD I think OutOfDarts got you beat. ;) Love ya, Drac.
Drac the motors are still really loud but not as loud as most other motors :)
Can I use in these motors in the Nerf Vulcan
Imagine the best motor revamped fangs being rm2 motor reshell.
I snapped up a pair. I was buying a pair to support Drac when I saw the Neo Rhino's for the same price. I was tempted but I stuck with the Fangs because they are rated 2s which gives me the flexibility to keep things HvZ friendly or bing off a 3s. Looking forward to putting these in my classic blue Stryfe sleeper build.
I literally just put a set of Fang132 motors in my stryfe this afternoon...
It's so annoying
What are you talking about? Motor voltage doesn't matter performance wise. 2S is actually harder to reduce performance with.
Ian Pugh I'm pretty sure I just watched Drac show otherwise in this video. But i could be wrong. I'll learn for myself on this build.
Rho Lall you misunderstood. 3S motors don't spin faster than 2S motors when running on their normal batteries. A 2S motor will spin faster than a 3S with both on a 3S.
Nerf motors are designed to spin at about 36K RPM at a certain voltage. All 2S motors spin around 36Kish on a 2S LiPo. All 3S motors spin at 36Kish on a 3S LiPo. A 2S motor on 3S will spin at around 50Kish, which outside of Eclipse cages and Rapidstrike Pushers is useless. A 3S motor on 2S however will spin at around 24Kish.
Ian Pugh thanks for the detail. That's my understanding. I'm going to play around with the cage. I'm going to start with a high crush morpheus cage. I agree the over spin of a 3S is less efficient, I'm hoping the high crush can make up for some of that. It's a secondary blaster, so I'll probably run it on 2s most of the time. The novelty of switching in a 3s is more cool than performance.
One of the coolest blaster I have ever seen
They make it sound like a vacuum cleaner xD
What would be the lifespan of the fangs on a 3s?
Drac, we're those a fresh pair of Worker wheels?
Maybe they're slipping = lower fps.
What would happen if you ran the Fang Revamped motors with a 3s lipo? (yes I know it voids the warranty).
Can you run them with 4 imr batteries?
Ethan Anger NO! IMRs are totally unsuited to Nerf use. Never use them.
Like the headband!
Can I just throw these in a stock stryfe using double a's? Because I can't be bothered to fully mod a stryfe at the moment
Will these fit in a stock stryfe cage?
Ok, so who else thought the motors on the 3s sounded like an opera singer
Neo hellcat vs Fang revamped, which one is better in performance?
Marcus Chan NeoHellcats. Hell NeoRhinos are better. Drac is just associated with Foamblast so he doesn't mention the hands down better options.
"Better" is subjective. They match the FPS of Neocats on every setup we could test (don't have eclipse, but Drac tested that). The only thing they lack VS MTB Neo motors is spin up time which is a fraction of a second difference with heavy wheels. Also, they have ball bearings, Neo Rhinos do not.
How many mah or amps can theese things take?
Sick hair. Your the Nerf king.
Kinda glad that I still haven't done any flywheel modding yet because new hotness keeps coming out. My Rayvens, Stryfes and Jyn Erso are going to be very happy.
How long will that one 2s lipo last you?
Could you put these in a Rival blaster and see increased performance?
Maybe
will these work with trust fire batteries? high voltage AA?
Jason Jeff if you run trust fires the gun will missfire directly in the eye of the builder only. Its the oddest thing really.
dont really know what you mean by that
Jason Jeff He means don't run Trustfires. Ever. If you're going to be installing new motors, put in the extra 3 minutes and wire to a battery that won't melt your flesh off if you look at it wrong.
Aren't 180 or higher better if you want to shell cut?
Cosmilite there are better motors. This video is just an ad. Drac is associated with Foamblast, so he doesn't even mention MTBs NeoRhinos which are better 130 size motors.
GO TEAM USA IN PYEONGCHANG!!!
Lol out of darts did his review first
What cages do they fit
Every single one but brushless
Where do I get these motors
I love drac
What RPM would you say they run on 2s??
Good luck re *VAMP* ing all your flywheel blasters.
Hey Drac, just a curiosity from the Demon from the UK, how crazy would running a rapidstrike with 3 of these in be? (I'm assuming the old "tri-blades" like Nos ran three 180 blades using one for the pusher)
Great! Can't wait to try it out!
1:49 Lord Drac from Hotel Transyvania doesn't say Blah Blah Blah. So now I'm confused.
What is the average rpm of a nerf dc motor
Now how many stryfes are you going to put theese in for videos
Would you ever take a commission for just the electronic internals of a blaster?
9:09 Drac: 0 Mags: 1
There was a video made about moon today way before you
These are what you used in the Eclipse cage, right?
Will these work in the Stockade?
Ood beat you, so did foamblast
Ze Soviet Nerfer mother russia
Add sound proof walls in the motors
Are they as good as neo rhinos?
ALPHA Nope. Every category except battery size is won by the NeoRhinos. More Torque, so faster spinup. Better max RPM, etc.
Ian Pugh thanks
Fang Revamps have higher max RPM than Neo Rhinos. I've verified this with a tachometer.
were can I get a pair of those :/
it will be awesome if someone made a MTB neo rihno VS fangs revamped
Done.
LordDraconical who made the video?
where can you get that lipo battery?
zac chambers amazon.
Hobbyking has the same brand of those LiPo batteries for dirt cheap prices.
The new rhinos are more powerful tho
😭😭
RCLegends UK seriously. Unless you are very invested in 2S, or you are using an Eclipse Cage, there is literally no reason to go with these over NeoRhinos.
Ian Pugh it’s so true though, the rhinos are literally the most torquey and they look cool as and the new fangs just sound annoying
55500 RPM is way too fast for standard flywheels. 36Kish is where you want to be fore everything but Eclipse cages, anything much faster just burns your darts. You cannot get the same amount of torque at 36Kish RPM from a Fang as you get from a NeoRhino.
I don’t know I was just contemplating over the two 😂👍
Oh and btw I meant neo rhinos 😂 sorry !
These are amazing had the same setup in my oj "sleeper" and am now the ruler of a small country. The fps is great
Can you buy them in Europe
It 's firing so fast i couldn't see the darts exiting the barrel.
Where we could get it
Your likes were 666 so I had to like to give it a 667. Your welcome now your video is not haunted.
I saw this on out of darts first
Nice video
Soooo That's a lovely pin you have there...
What pin?
GFDW...Tell me your secrets
You can still increase their performance
whats up drac
They get smaller... WHICH MEANS WE CAN STUFF MORE MOTORS IN A LONGSTRIKE BARREL
It looks better without the front barrel
You were too late. It was already leaked on Reddit before this video LOL.
Irish Josh Plays It wasn’t leaked, Foamblast themselves posted it.
New vid!
I would call them neo fangs or something different from fangs just to be able to tell them apart when talking about it
Re-Vamp-ed
can i use these with a drill battery
my worker motors took a shit