Batteries & Motors 101 | Nerf Modding Explained
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- Опубліковано 17 гру 2016
- How to pick Lipo Batteries for Nerf Blasters.
↓ Topic Timestamps: ↓
Motors: 1:13
Batteries: 7:47
Micro Switch: 16:50
Wire: 18:04
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I'm expecting this video to be linked quite often in the future. Nicely made!
That's da plan. :3
Ok I need to sleep.
-Justin
IAmBobololo wad up bobo
People that are on mobile are like wtf are you pointing at??? Hahahahaha 😂😂😂😂
@@rylinheppner6834 no
Maxim K. That was a year and a half ago. I was weird
@@rylinheppner6834 ok man, chill do offense
Maxim K. Did you have a stroke?
Maxim K. Omg you’re actually 9 years old, bruh stop talking shit
Heres a little lesson in moddery,this is going down in history!
if you wanna be a nerfer number one,you have to wreck a springer user on the run!
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We are Number One but it's Ryan lecturing us about not using Lipos again.
When like "we are number one" so much it has to be your intro music
Excellent video, fellas.
Everything was explained very thoroughly, and was easily understood. I wish there was something like this when I first got into the modding scene. Definitely interested in a MOSFET video, though.
Keep up the great work!
Two months of reddit posts, wikipedia pages, and dozens of open tabs and I learned more in 10 minutes of this video than I ever did. How is it that no one ever explained stall specs that well?
Because a vast majority of the denizens of reddit (and dare I say nerf in general) care more about feelings and dogma than facts. "Science" and "Maths" are scary words... Its getting better tho -R
Just to clarify, does Milliamp hours indicate how long it could last in relative way?
Now I just need to determine the exact specs of the stryfe battery compartment and I should be able to find a 2S Lipo that fits and runs the honey badger.
Yes. a 2000mAh battery will last twice as long as a 1000mAh battery. A good choice is the Zippy Compact 1300mAh. It fits really nicely -R
You have saved me yet further trouble. Thank you, humble nerf saint of nation UA-cam.
Well I'm bookmarking this one, really well presented! A good chunk of this applies to airsoft (different motors and switches, but the wiring and batteries are the same, and the maths of course)
I even learned why 2s/3s lipos are called s when Cell begins with C! Didn't think about series and parallel connections in battery packs, I've never seen a parallel connection. The discussion of connecting two batteries together to double the capacity does pop up every now and again, but it's generally frowned upon in our circles as different discharge rates could lead to one battery overdischarging before the other battery is empty(at least, that's the theory that's thrown around)
Yeah, I wanted this video to be applicable to as many different communities as possible. Parallel is very rare nowadays. I'm not 100% sure on how using several packs in parallel would go down but that sounds legit. Battery manufacturing has improved so you can get pretty big individual cells so paralleling packs is rarely necessary.
I have been looking for a video like this for quite some time! Thank you so much for the great detail and practicals. Very rarely do people give the reasons behind a mod as well as examples for how they do it. Again, Thanks So much!
Official reason for the re-upload is the last 2 minutes of the video were missing.
Unofficially...
We are going to teach you how to be VILLAINS!
-Justin
Make.Test.Battle i was wondering why i saw this a while ago
Make.Test.Battle Ryan, you are number one...
Only the most respectful of memes for this channel.
Where is the link to your paper?
Make.Test.Battle please make a video about other better sources. I know you briefly touched on a few but I would love to know more about LiFePo4's, NiCad's, IMR's, etc.
quality video, have been continually googling these details and not making full sense of it all. Thanks lads.
Good video, the info here sounds very much like the info I give out to beginners in the r/c hobby- it's all directly applicable in that sense.
I really appreciate you guys making these videos! Thanks so much!
I've done flywheel builds before, and I was still able to learn a ton! Thanks for the great vid Ryan.
^_^ -R
"'We are number one,' but it's all synths, and it's the background to a Nerf mod guide." Man, these "we are number one" memes are getting really esoteric.
We cater for a very specific niche of memers -R
Thanks for this video, explained a lot that I didn't understand before. I just ordered 4 neo hellcat motors for 2 hyperfire builds I'm taking on and some 3s lipos from hobbyking. I'm glad to see the parts I ordered look compatible. The batteries are a little large but no harm there
Yes, someone explained carbon brushes! Carbon brushes are a good way to get stock motors to hold 3s. That's what my Modulus ECS-10 has now.
This is awesome. I knew about most of it, but the review on current draw was super helpful
I have watched this video three times and it helped me a lot
Great video as always! Keep up fantastic work guys.
I've probably studied and replayed this video more than I have for school work. Thanks!
I first watched this video and didn't understand any of it, then I went on an internet binge of watching nerf mod videos and scrolling through hobbyking and blasterparts, and know I can understand almost all of it, I would be a dumbass without the internet.
Good job on explaining the subject. I found it very helpful.
Just woke up, saw this, and my day got 72% better ;)
Perfect 101 - helps a lot, thx!!!
Subscribed because of this video, it was a lot of help and keep up the good work
Thanks! -R
watching this a 2nd time a year later, I understand so much more. great job
You are awesomely educational. It´s always a pleasure to watch your videos, guys.
Thank you! -R
Helpful and informative as always. Love this channel
The second excellent video I've read from you. Thank you again, well done.
Super helpful! Thanks!
great video guys. lots of information. I'd love a mosfet video.
great explanations and working interactions of parts. No promoting of any particular brand. nice class doen to earth. good folk.
i forgot to ask the nerf kaos set up. how to upgrade it to be acurate
Congrats on 65K!
road to 66,666 -R
awesome video. thanks!
Love the new logo
Thank you for the extremely helpful video!
:D Welcome! -R
Great video
Nicely Done
electro we are number one as the intro. nice one guys
I love Synthwave. :D
-Justin
Great video guys very helpful thanks
Glad to help.
-Justin
Thanks for the video. This helped me find a 45c 3S Lipo 5200mAh. Plenty of power for its size ;)
this helps so much
great video mtb im just starting out in modding and this video helped alot
^_^ Excellent! -R
Damn fire track
*We are number one at the beginning*
Me: PERFECT 10/10 BEST VIDEO IN THE ENTIRE FUCKING UNIVERSE!
Great video, Filled in a gap I had on Lipo and made me wanna make a 2s2p 18650 battery tray for my next Stryfe build. Luckily I have a 3d printer and knowledge of vape batteries (Most common application of 18650 by non hobbiests) Wish me luck
Thanks so much! Very educational for a Noob like me.
Thanks so much!
@.Make Test Battle hey nice video very informative. I'm from the drone community,nit auto dji but hand soldered freestyle quads. The lipo batteries that go upto 4.2x are HV (high voltage) standard lipos charge upto 3.8v. Tha k's for the vid I'll be using it to mod mine! Cheers.
Great video! + 1 sub
well now guess you could say you are number one
We're teaching Villains how to have fun.
-Justin
This video is awesome for a beginner like me, even three years later.
Is there a newer video on this subject that may have any updates concerning this topic in our hobby, or is it just more efficient motors replacing older models?
Thanks!
Great video, very thorough. Would love to hear your opinion on the pros/cons of using mosfets or relays, along with the use of NiMH batteries.
It seems like I'm going ot have to now! -R
What no out takes?! XD Excelent video!
Because this video was totally scripted there weren't really very many silly outtakes; just me fucking up a few lines here and there -R
Make.Test.Battle I figured! You guys are awesome. Love your work!
Thanks Ryan! This video was really helpful! Also have you guys ever made a Rayvipfire (rapidstrike + rayven) or a stryfeturion? (Stryfe + centurion)
I got 2 things.
1. How to calculate total use time for a 3s 1 amp/hour 25 c Lipo powering 2 rhinos
2. If the total volts for a 3s is 11.1, that would only give me 3 volts of wiggle room before I have to recharge at 7.1 volts? I don't want any of the cells to drop below 3.2, so 7.1 just doesn't seem like a lot. Or can I push it all the way to 3.2 total volts in the entire battery?
Thanx that helps.
these guys are the tech Syndicate of needing UA-camrs
I'd love if you guys did mofset and relay vids!!
Great video. Thanks. I would like to see a video covering the torque and RPM differences between brushed and brushless.
It is verrrrry hard to find the exact figures for brushless motors but a guy on the Nerf Reddit page did some testing and the ones he used seemed to perform similar to top tier 180 motors which is quite surprising. That said, there are *many* different brushless motors so whos to say some aren't better.
I will definitely cover the differences between brushed and brushless in the detailed motor video -R
thank you so much
Great video guys! Very informative. Have a quick question for you… I'm putting together a rapid pistol with three hellcat 180s. Plan on using a 1000mah 45c constant 90c burst obviously 3S lipo. Just wondering if that will be safe if the motor stall?
I think you should rewatch the battery section until you can answer your own question :) -R
THANK YOU
Thank you
Thanks Ryan, this is a great video, (as most of yours are) and helped me a lot in choice of motors and batteries.
I'll be buying M.T.B. motors from now on (Fang Revamped make me want to retch) and some Neo-Rhino's for my Modulus, Hyperfire, Rapidstrike and Regulator Builds, probably even my Mega Mastodon (with some shims to hold the motors in place), what pusher motor do you think would work best on a 3S setup with Neo-Rhino motors? I can do motor braking to avoid runaway firing, so that doesn't worry me, ideally I want to stick with 130 size cans, just for the simplicity and less internal and external shell cutting.
Honeybadgers are 2S, right? So could I use a 3S Rhino as a pusher without any issues?
Thank you, thank you, thank you!
Could you do a Desolater build? I love the gun and I think giving it a fullauto kit and a forward barrel attachment can make it pretty slick.
We Are Number one intro :3
Thank You!!!
How would you go about making a Lipo power Barricade? Could I use stock motors?
6 months later and i still find myself using this as a reference.
Glad we could help.
-Justin
Great and informative video as always Ryan. Quick question... what are the current draws for stock Stryfe and stock Zeus motors?
Thanks but I have no idea! -R
like your vids
Hey Ryan! Thanks for this. Though I know the basics, it is great to have a comprehensive guide that can be linked to when people ask questions. One thing I did notice however is that you didn't go over pusher motor stuff, probably by design. I think it would be good to note that Honeybadgers and I assume Wolverines (Don't have any yet!) run great for high ROF Rapidstrikes.
PS- 10S2P LiPo's exist!!! I've seen them, but I don't think you can (or would ever want to?) buy one anymore...
I did go over it very briefly, but its hard to give a good explanation of the torque requirements while keeping it simple. the rule of thumb is divide max RPM by about 4,500 for the Rate of Fire. Also I'm sure they do exist but I was just using it as an illustrative example -R
Neat!
As an alternative for microswitches I've found in the US a chain called RadioShack carries lever/roller switches for about $3.50 a piece. Their ratings are 5A/125VAC, and I haven't had an issue with them in the last 6 months I've used them. They're not as beefy as the Omron 15A/125VAC switches it looks like Ryan has on his workbench, but they've done the job for me without any issues.
Sounds good! Microswitches are a bit of a fuzzy area... Its hard to give really valid advice other than "use something better tan stock" -R
mosfet and relay video would be awesome. Also I have been wondering if pwm module would be beneficial in flywheel based blaster? Where do you guys get ur motors and are you going to do anymore videos on hpa stuff?
1) Yeah
2) Not really
3) China
4) Definitely
-R
we are number one lol in the start of the video
Can you discuss flywheel replacement as in bought or printed and can you use 18650 batteries for power ?
Wow, a meme as background music. I never thought I'd hear that in my life.
Loved the we are number one. I found out yesterday that Robbie's actor is battling cancer. There is a gofundme page online, go there if you are interested.
Question...... is it me or is any one else wondering why the crimson pump recon is primed??? unless there aren't any internals yet. Excellent content I just love looking at you wall and work bench/ background 😄
Check our previous video on Adrians HPA Crimson Strike Recon :D -R
Lol the we are number one at the beginning
on a rapid strike with no mods what would you use for a lipo so you can save money on batteries?
Very good & informative video. Just wish I could see the links, (I'm on mobile).
Micro switch link not found on the "below" section. Can you link what type you used (in the rapidstrike mod video).
you could use capacitors to compensate for the stall current
Hey I'm new to this channel and I really enjoy it and I haven't checked yet but do u have a video on how to install a lipo in a nerf gun ??
Yes we do! Check out our stryfe, demolisher, and rapidstrike tutorials! -R
Make.Test.Battle alright thank u very much I really appreciate it !!
What voltage alarm would you use and where would you put it?
9:05 of course not in Nerf but there are batteries like that on some things like I have seen Lithium-ion batteries with that many volts and that many cells for electric bicycles
I would recommend having two differently colored wires, I have seen a lot of people confuse themselves by trying to use the same color of wire for positive and negative
great video, thanks for doing it. I'm curious of peoples thoughts on using trustfire batteries with stock motors, which is what my son and me are doing at the moment. we have a rapidstrike each and the grand plan next year is to do the full mod, but for the moment we have a reasonable performance from the trustfire batteries. please comment.
So, stock motors have metal brushes that will wear out much quicker with higher voltages. Using trustfires on stock motors is a "bad" solution but if you use it til it stops working then upgrade to something better then thats okay -R
My main hobby is remote control cars. I love playing with nerf guns with the boy. You are the first channel who has shown the metal brushes in a standard motor and why we should upgrade.
Hey Ryan. Probably won't see this, but I think I might have discovered something. Remember the rapid red? Recently thrifed one, then purchased IMRs, and one dummy battery. Didn't have to bypass the thermoster. Dunno why. Just thought you might be interested. You guys are great.
Sincerely,
DragonMods.
Yeah, the thermistor is pretty random in my experience. sometimes they work, sometimes not -R
In your paper you say that we want the darts to skid as they go through the flywheels. Are you saying that knurled/grippy flywheels such as those from Worker should be avoided?
I have a strife I re wired upgraded switches and did small motor upgrades what 180 motors should I buy from you site I already have the shell cut
does any one ever use motors that are not these standard 180 you talk about there is a massive selection on hobby sites for in runner motors with 3d printers modifications or building a mount for them could be done?
Is there any motors that 3 IMRs will be able to supply the current and amps? I just bought 4 IMR's. And I was initially going to run stock motors. But I that would ruin the motor. So would your mtb rhino motors be able to supply their full potential with IMR's?
we are number one...
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@@MakeTestBattle ^~^
I found to what you said about 14500's to be wrong. I just completed my Rapid-Pistol build with 2 MTB Rhino motors and 1 stock motor and I ran it on 3 14500 IMR's with 650mAh and 9.75 pulse C and they worked really well and I have fired the gun probably 600-700 times and my not batteries nor motors are heating up a lot and my build works very well. This is still a very indepth tutorial though. Good Job!
It make a "worked really well" but I can assure you that the motors would perform better with a proper LiPo. 9.75C burst on a 0.65mAh is only a 6.3amp burst. The stall current on each Rhino is 8ish amps so you are trying to pull ~16ish amps out of a battery that is rated for 6 amps. -R
Okay that makes sense but I do run 3 batteries on a battery pack. I would have used a LiPo for the build but the initial investment is too high for me and this is the only flywheel blaster I actually have so I don't want to spend a ton of money. I still love how it turned out and it has very good range and ROF.
Thanks Though!