This video is missing the part where Wade talks about 6 minutes into a turned off microphone, asks chat "was my mic off the whole time??" then has to start the whole thing over
Fellow drummer: DO IT! You don't need to be in a band, just don't annoy the people around you. Get a cheap set and start listening to music and hitting, you'll learn how to play VERY quickly!
do it. i've started ages ago and sold my kit, and i've been missing it (and space to play it) ever since. it's a workout, but after a couple weeks, you'll be decent at it. lots of resources online. go for it!!
As someone who takes his guitar picks way too seriously and has like a dozen different types in a tin of mints and constantly switches between at least four kinds on a daily basis I love this and could listen to drumstick talk for hours
Y u p - I’ve got all sorts of shapes & materials & tip geometries & thicknesses, it’s so fun to mess with. I’ve settled on a triangle shape, between .73 & .90 mm depending on the application I’ve got some rectangular acrylic picks that are sick tho
Gonna go on ahead and send the time stamped vater request to the right folks. Hopefully you guys work together and get your own sigs as well. Wonderful folks to work and be partnered with.
@@DUKE_of_RAMBLE click on the user.. that's brann freakin dailor. he's beyond a certified legend. Also, brann if you read this Big fan and you did great in drumeo.
Honestly a "cut to length" option for sticks might be something to float to stick companies. Make them say 6-8 inches longer than normal and a recommended TPI for a saw blade and let the good times roll.
I keep a pair of echos in my stick bag for when a non drummer has the brilliant idea of asking me to use multi rods, the echos are usually quiet enough to shut those people up
it's crazy how much goes into this my perfectionist ass could never be a drummer, lmao. i'd spend hours fussing over every possible combination of things before i even got to the drumming part
That’s just called being a drummer. Some are more peculiar about other things, but when I had my ekit, I had to have everything set up the same way every time. Every time I tore it down to put it in the closet or storage and take it back out to set it up, I would literally measure things with my hands. Cymbals had to be the length from my thumb to my pinky when stretched out. Legs at just about 90 degrees when on the throne. The only exception to the rule was my china and the floor tom. Us drummers will fiddle with every little thing until it just feels natural and sounds good.
I think it's called being a musician, or any kind of enthusiast. I have spent way more time than I can justify fiddling with the setup on my £50 cashies "let's learn to play during lockdown" squier strat for example when I should have just been practicing playing the damn thing.
@@hammerth1421 im Italian and the name is funni to me, "vater" sounds like "water", which in italian means "toilet" so "il water malvagio" in italian Is 👨🏻 📹 🚽 🔫👕
For the first time in history, The Drum Thing steamed live on UA-cam and all had been well with the world 🌎 😂 If not the most hilarious 2 hours of my life…watching an Aussie just be a complete DINGUS. 😝
I remember coming into the YT stream when Wade pulled out the Zildjian rocks (or as I affectionately call them, the sausage sticks) and was waiting for this episode to drop!
I believe those Zildjian Absolute Rock sticks are actually the type that Brian Chippendale, the absolute monster behind the kit of Lightning Bolt frequently uses. His actual sculpture of broken sticks should be evidence enough as to why he prefers them.
Mate, thanks so much for doing this!!! I've been exploring different sticks this past year but I feel like few people actually care enough to talk about this sort of thing. I'm a massive fan of nylon tips as someone who plays rock and metal as well as all of the bluesy stuff I get roped in for - the extra little treble spiciness you get helps cut through stinky guitars feeding crazy sounds through half a dozen effect pedals. I want to see a part 2 now where you talk about stuff like brushes and hot rods - been jamming in a mate's flat a lot lately and hot rods have been a life saver for keeping the noise down while encouraging me to play a bit differently too.
i remember when i first started drumming i used the steve gadd sticks because i thought they were the lars ulrich signature sticks and couldn't read cursive (i was like 5 give me a break) they look cool and are light and short for beginners can recommend, although i remember them having a nylon tip, and leaving my cymbal with black marks because of the paint lol
The best sticks I ever had were un-marked and I don't know how I got them so I couldn't find them to get more, eventually one chipped and that was it. Now there is no "right" stick for me. It is a constant journey.
Boring Time fact/pro tip: denser wood drumsticks last longer which is why oak sticks typically last longer than hickory. However, this applies to drumsticks that are made from the same type of wood; sometimes the grain of one pair of sticks are just naturally denser than a different pair. You can tell by how heavy the sticks feel, but also by pitch. If you tap your fingernail on the stick, you’ll hear the resonance of the stick and its natural pitch. The higher the pitch, the denser the wood, aka a pair of sticks that will probably last longer than a lower-pitched pair of the same exact model/wood.
I felt like I had plateaued as a drummer awhile back. I remember watching your videos and you always talked about the sweet rides, so I went in search of them. I couldn't find them at my local place, but after trying what they had in stock on some practice pads, I purchased sets of Vater Manhattan 5A and 7A sticks. After trying both sets out at rehearsals, i settled on the 7As. Now, my old sticks feel like tree trunks in comparison
I always keep a variety of lighter and heavier sticks on my bag. The attack and punch that heavier sticks give on the drums is something I like a lot and also it slowing me down does a lot for the music as well.
Back in the 80s I was such a heavy hitter I went seeking the thickets heaviest sticks I could find. Vic Firth Rock Crushers is what I came back with. An extra inch of length, and nearly as much Chonk as your 3S sticks. I am not sure, but I think they only came with nylon tips. Felt like baseball bats.
As a non-musician, this blew me away! But, as a lover of music, I *_totally get_* why you like the Sweet Rides... On the brass, they're so much more rich and warm sounding!
I got a big pair of tree trunks when I was having problems with my wrists. Just bought them on a total whim, and while the insane amount of rebound made it impractical to play certain things, it was actually super fun. Didn’t feel like hard work at all, saying this as someone who, by medical necessity, had to work less hard. Can’t remember exactly what they were at the moment.
A long time ago I was looking to buy new drumsticks. I saw this pair that looked really cool, the guy at the store said the sticks were scorched to make them stronger but they were a new product so there was a chance that the process didn't work properly. They looked so cool though I regret not getting them
I play reggae which is a style that uses a lot of super quick hihat action but I use super thick sticks, 2b nylon tips. They might not seem ideal for my genre, but THE RIMSHOT AND CROSS STICK SOUNDS ARE INSANELY FAT MAN
The more I watch this channel (and to a lesser extent the other channels), the more I realize that what defines good is a personal preference rather than a definitive answer
Two sticks I've always loved on the ride: Vic Firth Buddy Rich, and Vater West Side (basically the same sticks, just one isnt painted). I wish they made something similar (blended tip), but in like a 5B size. I love how they feel, especially on a ride, but my meaty hands cramp up like crazy when I play them fast for an extended amount of time. But given you like thinner sticks, you might genuinely enjoy the feel of those ones.
Marching percussion sticks are so important as well. Some WGI percussion books are basically impossible without lightweight matching sticks! Looking at you, Rhythm X 2010!
i used to love the steve gadd signatures, but over time found the stick length just a touch short. thanks for putting me on to the vater sweet rides, those seem like exactly the kind of stick i’d prefer to use nowadays
I love my Vater Acorn Cymbal Sticks. When I was in marching band in junior high and high school, I used Pro Mark Oak 1S, then 2S, then 3S, then their DC 10 model. They were big fat logs with just a little taper and no tip. I loved them, though. They worked perfectly for marching stuff.
I've been a live theatrical sound engineer for decades, and I had literally no idea that drum sticks made this much difference. It makes perfect sense, now that I think about it, but I just never did. Absolutely fascinating.
We've seen weird cymbals (mostly road signs and 3D printed plastic discs), but it would be cool to find out how suitable different objects are as drumsticks, for example chopsticks, dried spaghetti, thick pencils and random sticks found outside.
Really easy to make a jig that'd let you turn two sticks into one long stick with a steep angled cut, which means lots of surface area so all it would need is glue
The absolute rocks just looks like someone grabbed a set of sticks that were half way through the production line and decided to sell them. They look like blanks for lack of better words.
flashbacks to when we (I) discovered that thinner drum sticks sound way better for the music my band was doing, but my drummers kept insisting they needed to get the thickest ones (even though they agreed the thin ones sounded better) because it's cooler
The Peter Erskine signature is my fav stick. i love the way the tip makes my cymbals sound. kinda looks like the vader sweet ride you like. the issue with those ball tips is if you have normal lathe grooves or kind of a sand finished cymbal it kinda wears the ball tip out. the tip ends up going before the stick itself frays apart
i saw this on the stream already lol, but it's never boring time with you lol. i didn't know about the nylon cover tho, they look weird tbh. thanks for the tips frank!
people who play really hard use them because wooden tips chip away after a few hours hitting cymbals. Sticks are $15/pair now, so there's the incentive
Honestly Wade is just proof positive that the type of content doesn't matter. You can have 5 wildly different content formats and as long as you're charismatic the content will do well.
This video is missing the part where Wade talks about 6 minutes into a turned off microphone, asks chat "was my mic off the whole time??" then has to start the whole thing over
my favorite part, 31 minutes of hilarity for 31 seconds of usable content
and somewhere in there I bet there was a rage into a cymbal toss
@@MichanaAlerting If I recall correctly, three cymbal tosses.
@@WWTBAMWinner of course
Not before yeeting every single cymbal he has lmao
Babe wake up. Its the dingus talking about drums again.
FRAAAAAAAAAAANK!
Also dankmus :)
I get excited every time he says "boring time"
Always.
Me too! I love boring time!
Boring time is best time
Boring time is best time
He should make a "boring video"
I’m honestly considering learning to play the drums as a side thing thanks to you, keep at it!
Fellow drummer: DO IT! You don't need to be in a band, just don't annoy the people around you. Get a cheap set and start listening to music and hitting, you'll learn how to play VERY quickly!
@@just_limerence Thanks for the advice, I’ll keep that in mind :)
do it. i've started ages ago and sold my kit, and i've been missing it (and space to play it) ever since. it's a workout, but after a couple weeks, you'll be decent at it. lots of resources online. go for it!!
As someone who takes his guitar picks way too seriously and has like a dozen different types in a tin of mints and constantly switches between at least four kinds on a daily basis I love this and could listen to drumstick talk for hours
Y u p - I’ve got all sorts of shapes & materials & tip geometries & thicknesses, it’s so fun to mess with. I’ve settled on a triangle shape, between .73 & .90 mm depending on the application
I’ve got some rectangular acrylic picks that are sick tho
I literally know nothing about drums, and this is satisfying seeing a Aussie yelling about a microphone not working
What you don't see is the whole like 5 minute segment where Wade was just barely audible via the overhead mic for the drums.
Wade simultaneously screaming and chucking the cymbals is a mood
As a drummer, boring time is the best time to
As not drummer, same.
To what
To what?
Best time to what???
To
i was waiting for the return of the sticks from the worst drum book in the world
Gonna go on ahead and send the time stamped vater request to the right folks.
Hopefully you guys work together and get your own sigs as well. Wonderful folks to work and be partnered with.
If you manage to make Wade's deal come true, you will be a *"Certified LEGEND"* 🤘😫🤘
@@DUKE_of_RAMBLE click on the user.. that's brann freakin dailor. he's beyond a certified legend.
Also, brann if you read this Big fan and you did great in drumeo.
BRANN FUCKING DAILOR IS HERE?
Honestly a "cut to length" option for sticks might be something to float to stick companies. Make them say 6-8 inches longer than normal and a recommended TPI for a saw blade and let the good times roll.
The sticks Gene Hoglan uses are halfway between the absolute rocks and 3s.
Chunky boys need chunky sticks.
Gene Hoglan mentioned, this is a good day
I play with the Shirashi Oak 2Bs from Promark; can confirm, chonky bois
Love Hoglan
I keep a pair of echos in my stick bag for when a non drummer has the brilliant idea of asking me to use multi rods, the echos are usually quiet enough to shut those people up
Need to see you hit the stop sign cymbal with a 2×4.
it's crazy how much goes into this
my perfectionist ass could never be a drummer, lmao. i'd spend hours fussing over every possible combination of things before i even got to the drumming part
That’s just called being a drummer. Some are more peculiar about other things, but when I had my ekit, I had to have everything set up the same way every time. Every time I tore it down to put it in the closet or storage and take it back out to set it up, I would literally measure things with my hands. Cymbals had to be the length from my thumb to my pinky when stretched out. Legs at just about 90 degrees when on the throne. The only exception to the rule was my china and the floor tom. Us drummers will fiddle with every little thing until it just feels natural and sounds good.
Not at all. It sounds like you would love it.
I think it's called being a musician, or any kind of enthusiast. I have spent way more time than I can justify fiddling with the setup on my £50 cashies "let's learn to play during lockdown" squier strat for example when I should have just been practicing playing the damn thing.
my hungry ass could never be a drummer 🤤
"Vader Sweet Ride" reminded me that it's Star Wars Day.
May the 4th be with you.
May the 4th Be With _You,_ as well!
🖍️ 👱🏼
🖍️💢 🔹🔹 🔫 🥋
🖍️ 🔹
🎤 🔹
(yes, I'm bored... shush! lol)
It's Vater which is German for father.
Luke, I am your Vater!
@@hammerth1421 im Italian and the name is funni to me, "vater" sounds like "water", which in italian means "toilet" so "il water malvagio" in italian Is
👨🏻 📹
🚽 🔫👕
I love how the moment he gets irritated he goes into the Cymbal Toss mode
DRUM THING MENTIONED!!!! 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥
For the first time in history, The Drum Thing steamed live on UA-cam and all had been well with the world 🌎 😂
If not the most hilarious 2 hours of my life…watching an Aussie just be a complete DINGUS. 😝
I remember coming into the YT stream when Wade pulled out the Zildjian rocks (or as I affectionately call them, the sausage sticks) and was waiting for this episode to drop!
I believe those Zildjian Absolute Rock sticks are actually the type that Brian Chippendale, the absolute monster behind the kit of Lightning Bolt frequently uses. His actual sculpture of broken sticks should be evidence enough as to why he prefers them.
Was checking the comments to see if anyone mentioned Chippendale yet, love those guys
that's so strange... I would not have thought the stick shape would make THAT much difference.
Shoutout to aluminum sticks too!!! As a metal player on a budget those things are the only thing keeping me from spending $100s a year on sticks
how do you avoid ending up with razor blades? Field tenors used to use 'em but the shafts would bend and the rim dents get very sharp
You'll end up spending 1000$ a year ln cymbals then lol
@@angelrgdrumsno, the cymbals are unaffected. The aluminum stick shafts bend and become sharp from rimshots. It's more of a safety thing
0:30 - perfect way of letting it out
Zildjian: You know those rhythm sticks every child in the world is given in music class? Let's sell those to drummers.
5:53 Good aim skills DankPods ! 😲😎 !
Mate, thanks so much for doing this!!!
I've been exploring different sticks this past year but I feel like few people actually care enough to talk about this sort of thing.
I'm a massive fan of nylon tips as someone who plays rock and metal as well as all of the bluesy stuff I get roped in for - the extra little treble spiciness you get helps cut through stinky guitars feeding crazy sounds through half a dozen effect pedals.
I want to see a part 2 now where you talk about stuff like brushes and hot rods - been jamming in a mate's flat a lot lately and hot rods have been a life saver for keeping the noise down while encouraging me to play a bit differently too.
holy shit, i only ever work with samples--i guess that's why i had no idea that sticks alone could create such a difference in sound
3:26 TF2 Scout ahh laugh
real
Those absolute rocks are what I like using for my left hand instead of turning the stick around for that fat juicy snare hit.
i remember when i first started drumming i used the steve gadd sticks because i thought they were the lars ulrich signature sticks and couldn't read cursive (i was like 5 give me a break) they look cool and are light and short for beginners can recommend, although i remember them having a nylon tip, and leaving my cymbal with black marks because of the paint lol
At my college we use the Absolute Rock sticks for a lot of Latin percussion. They tend to let longer wailing on a cowbell all day.
Hell, drumstick blanks are the recommended implement for timbales
Love the Absolute Rock Sticks, Brian Chippendale uses them and now I use them lmao
You get so much more out of the cymbals with a big chunky nice stick, never would have considered this.
7a ftw
So what I'm picking up from this is that every piece of your kit can change how it sounds. Neat.
We need an entire 1 hour Cymbal Toss session on The Drum stream 😂
I actually got myself a pair of sweetrides after this.... some proppper cymbal tappers right there❤
Next step.
Get a gong
WOAHH THat's from the drum thing drum stream "stream", I was there!
The best sticks I ever had were un-marked and I don't know how I got them so I couldn't find them to get more, eventually one chipped and that was it. Now there is no "right" stick for me. It is a constant journey.
Never before have I seen a man so mad that he threw a cymbal at a wall.
Drums my beloved
I'm so glad you kept the bloopers in
Boring Time fact/pro tip: denser wood drumsticks last longer which is why oak sticks typically last longer than hickory. However, this applies to drumsticks that are made from the same type of wood; sometimes the grain of one pair of sticks are just naturally denser than a different pair. You can tell by how heavy the sticks feel, but also by pitch. If you tap your fingernail on the stick, you’ll hear the resonance of the stick and its natural pitch. The higher the pitch, the denser the wood, aka a pair of sticks that will probably last longer than a lower-pitched pair of the same exact model/wood.
I felt like I had plateaued as a drummer awhile back. I remember watching your videos and you always talked about the sweet rides, so I went in search of them. I couldn't find them at my local place, but after trying what they had in stock on some practice pads, I purchased sets of Vater Manhattan 5A and 7A sticks. After trying both sets out at rehearsals, i settled on the 7As. Now, my old sticks feel like tree trunks in comparison
I always keep a variety of lighter and heavier sticks on my bag. The attack and punch that heavier sticks give on the drums is something I like a lot and also it slowing me down does a lot for the music as well.
Back in the 80s I was such a heavy hitter I went seeking the thickets heaviest sticks I could find. Vic Firth Rock Crushers is what I came back with. An extra inch of length, and nearly as much Chonk as your 3S sticks. I am not sure, but I think they only came with nylon tips. Felt like baseball bats.
absolute rocks lookin like the sticks you get with taiko drum controllers
I always loved Morgan Rose's signature Vaders. Double butt-ends, chonky as hell.
I think you would get a kick out of how awesome the drummer in The Warning is.
As a non-musician, this blew me away!
But, as a lover of music, I *_totally get_* why you like the Sweet Rides... On the brass, they're so much more rich and warm sounding!
I got a big pair of tree trunks when I was having problems with my wrists. Just bought them on a total whim, and while the insane amount of rebound made it impractical to play certain things, it was actually super fun. Didn’t feel like hard work at all, saying this as someone who, by medical necessity, had to work less hard. Can’t remember exactly what they were at the moment.
Im so glad im not the only extra long stick enjoyer, my kit is so spread out
The moment I heard the sweet rides I immediately thought “I need this at 17” length” and I’m glad I’m not the only one
A long time ago I was looking to buy new drumsticks. I saw this pair that looked really cool, the guy at the store said the sticks were scorched to make them stronger but they were a new product so there was a chance that the process didn't work properly. They looked so cool though I regret not getting them
Whenever Wade says "boring time," I know we're about to get into deeply interesting and niche knowledge sharing time, and I love it
I play reggae which is a style that uses a lot of super quick hihat action but I use super thick sticks, 2b nylon tips. They might not seem ideal for my genre, but THE RIMSHOT AND CROSS STICK SOUNDS ARE INSANELY FAT MAN
It's really fun watching this and knowing that I was there when it happened, it's just a new feeling for me
The more I watch this channel (and to a lesser extent the other channels), the more I realize that what defines good is a personal preference rather than a definitive answer
Two sticks I've always loved on the ride: Vic Firth Buddy Rich, and Vater West Side (basically the same sticks, just one isnt painted). I wish they made something similar (blended tip), but in like a 5B size. I love how they feel, especially on a ride, but my meaty hands cramp up like crazy when I play them fast for an extended amount of time. But given you like thinner sticks, you might genuinely enjoy the feel of those ones.
Come on Vater give him customs. Call 'em Dankrods.
THAT BOSPHORUS OMFG YOURE JUST FLEXING ON US AT THIS POINT IM GONNA PERISH
I got to say that those Gadd signature sticks sound mighty fine to me!
Marching percussion sticks are so important as well. Some WGI percussion books are basically impossible without lightweight matching sticks! Looking at you, Rhythm X 2010!
i used to love the steve gadd signatures, but over time found the stick length just a touch short. thanks for putting me on to the vater sweet rides, those seem like exactly the kind of stick i’d prefer to use nowadays
Wade makes learning boring jazz stuff entertaining!
I love my Vater Acorn Cymbal Sticks. When I was in marching band in junior high and high school, I used Pro Mark Oak 1S, then 2S, then 3S, then their DC 10 model. They were big fat logs with just a little taper and no tip. I loved them, though. They worked perfectly for marching stuff.
Wade finally makes a video about something other than cymbals just for 90% of the video be him playing on cymbals.
I've been a live theatrical sound engineer for decades, and I had literally no idea that drum sticks made this much difference. It makes perfect sense, now that I think about it, but I just never did. Absolutely fascinating.
I've always enjoyed using small tipped Jazz sticks for my playing. I playing In a traditonal blues style and I find that it compliments it quite well
Witnessed this happen in real time and lost it during the angry cymbal toss-
bro got his workout done with those 3s's
Frank was the real helping hand on this one.
I started this video at 1.5x speed and just assumed mate was reaaaally excited today lol
"boring time" is the best time
Vader needs to make the extra sweet ride but call them the dank rides
We've seen weird cymbals (mostly road signs and 3D printed plastic discs), but it would be cool to find out how suitable different objects are as drumsticks, for example chopsticks, dried spaghetti, thick pencils and random sticks found outside.
I was expecting him to pull out a set of chopsticks and use them just for fun.
Really easy to make a jig that'd let you turn two sticks into one long stick with a steep angled cut, which means lots of surface area so all it would need is glue
Stick toss? No, drumstick javelin throwing.
Sneaky Fronks presence through the stream was an unexpected treat.
Man got the drippiest fit ever
Correct me if I’m wrong, but the SD5s are concert snare sticks. Also the Vater 3S is a marching snare stick.
Mic turns off: *cymbal toss in anger*
What the hell I never realized it would make that much difference. Yeah def taking my ride to the music shop next time.
The absolute rocks just looks like someone grabbed a set of sticks that were half way through the production line and decided to sell them. They look like blanks for lack of better words.
flashbacks to when we (I) discovered that thinner drum sticks sound way better for the music my band was doing, but my drummers kept insisting they needed to get the thickest ones (even though they agreed the thin ones sounded better) because it's cooler
Wade the hair and shades make you look a bit like the lovechild Jeff Lynne and Bob Ross. Love it!
"Protip: take your ride to the music store" - so they can laugh at me? My ride is so cracked and broken it's not round, it looks like Tasmania!
The Peter Erskine signature is my fav stick. i love the way the tip makes my cymbals sound. kinda looks like the vader sweet ride you like. the issue with those ball tips is if you have normal lathe grooves or kind of a sand finished cymbal it kinda wears the ball tip out. the tip ends up going before the stick itself frays apart
We need a Wade signature stick from Vader called the "Dank Ride"
The boring bits are by far the most interesting! Music nerd stuff!
Nice tip Frank, thanks!
oh yeah/. for ride cymbals especially, youve gotta find the right stick end that brings out the best in it.
My favorite stick is the ProMark 5A firegrain sticks with some hockey tape on for extra grip.
i saw this on the stream already lol, but it's never boring time with you lol. i didn't know about the nylon cover tho, they look weird tbh. thanks for the tips frank!
people who play really hard use them because wooden tips chip away after a few hours hitting cymbals. Sticks are $15/pair now, so there's the incentive
@RedstonePyroMan oh i get it. It's like using an expensive smartphone without cover, if you drop it, it will be a pain in the butt.
I am not bored of Boring Time. I need a whole playlist of boring time of Dingus talking about brands and such
Yes DankPods, your nickname is Dingus
Honestly Wade is just proof positive that the type of content doesn't matter. You can have 5 wildly different content formats and as long as you're charismatic the content will do well.
I WANT LONGER STICKS! *cries in 7a Freestyles*