people say KIA and Hyundai is bad in reliability....but a study showed Kia and Hyundai are the top 10 most reliable brand...people still think this is the 90s where the were bad? times change people.
Coming from someone who always thought KIA was garbage...I sat in a 2014 model at an auto show 2 years back and fell in love with the interior. Everything inside feels legit to the touch and it just looks great. Test drove the same car (SX-turbo) later that week and immediately made my purchase. Absolutely fantastic car. I've been super pleased with it so far. Best value I could find with all the features loaded into it. That model still had the 270hp engine which I thought was great. Kind of disappointed that they de-tuned it. But please, don't knock it til ya try it. KIA was stepped up their game in recent years.
I went car-shopping w/ my niece last December and she went with the 2015 Optima. Good choice! Packed w/ value and she gets 23mpg in the city (stop and go SoCal traffic - she doesn't do highways). Much better value then an Accord but comparable with the less-luxurious (and sportier) Mazda 6.
no, the accord is a muuuuuuch better value when u take into consideration the honda will last for 30+ years you will be lucky to get 10 out of a pos Kia
+Adammartini you wrong!! You get more tech features and a better warranty than an accord which makes this a better value. FYI: This is not a pos KIA whatever that means. It will not last just 10 years because it has just as good or even better quality than an accord. There an article online where KIA/Hyundai are beating German and Japanese cars in quality and reliability.
+Alex Razmjookhah Why better warranty and seemingly more tech features? It's for Kia to make up what it lacks to make it a okay value to compete with Toyota and Honda's offerings. Kia simply sounds cheap and low class.
+George Phillips why the hell do you care about the name it's still an awesome car. by the looks and quality of Kias lineup of cars it's not low class your just being biased. back in the 80s and early 90s Toyota and Honda had to make up for the mistakes they made too for the cars they build today. And Kia did the same thing. a lot of car companies improve overtime you just got to give them a chance.
I just had this car as a rental- it was great! It drove like a sports car! I was surprised how well it handled corners and how responsive the transmission was! That's why I'm here to see what he thinks! I must say, take out any of the models out and you'll see how enjoyable it is! Sure beats a Camry or Accord!
i hoped they reworked the suspension... My 2012 SX feels every bump, and has tons of wind noise... How was the wind noise? Also, the wondering on the hwy is annoying....
Kia engineers tweaked the horsepower and torque curves with the 2.0L turbo. Now the 2016 model has 245hp and 260 lb-ft torque vs. last year's model which had 274hp and 269 lb-ft torque. Yes, the fuel economy is better and you mentioned the torque curve isn't as peaky. Did the 2016 Optima lose any weight to compensate for the lower power output? I'd be curious as to what the power-to-weight ratio is for the 2016 Optima vs the 2015 model.
When the optima came out I was blown away but ever since then there has been no real change Kia need to step it up because you cannot even tell the optimas apart since they look the Same with tiny upgrades
We have a 2015 Forte LX manual. We're pretty satisfied with it, first to second gear is a bit "clunky', paint job not that great but it was cheap (less than $15k cdn) and we're getting about 40 miles/us gallon. Mentioning all t his because I don't suspect you'll ever do a review on a Forte.
+George Phillips Pretty easily remedied by a set of $25 aftermarket badges, if you're really that worried about it, which you shouldn't be because that's obviously not what they intended it to mean
Hey Roman was actually an adult in this one. That's good. Also where was this video taken? It looked nice and scenic to me. As for the car. It seems like a shame that they had to cut the hp to gain the mpg. But mpg is very important. If it takes to much money to get their that leaves less money for snacks and other things.
You mentioned that it bothered your right knee and that some other cars do that as well- we are looking for a mid size sedan with good gas mileage since my rather large husband drives the interstate alot back and forth from work but he also has that problem with certain cars bothering his knee/leg on that side or lifting his left leg up too high on the left side cause of that hump in the floor some of them have. What do you recommend looking at and what do you recommend staying away from? thanks so much
I'm really stuck on getting the Kia Optima or the Hyundai Genesis, both are great cars, both are Korean, but I'm not sure which one I should get. Both are pretty good looking, reliable, and affordable, but I'm really going towards the Hyundai, but now since a 2016 Optima came out, now I'm on square one, any suggestions?
Are you serious? How in the world can you even debate with yourself over which car you should get between the Genesis or optima! First off Hyundai owns Kia for the most part. Secondly, those cars aren't even in the same category. The Genesis isn't even going to be called a Hyundai Genesis starting in 2017, it will just be called Genisis. So that should tell you how good that car is. If you already made your decision I hope you made the smart one. My friend, the Genesis is a FAR better car than the optima.
+George Phillips Are you serious? A Hyundai will outlast any Chevy, Ford , or Chrysler Dodge. Not sure what rock you live under but Hyundai goes on forever now days.
I like the 2015 Kia Optima in contrast to the 2016 Kia Optima, which doesn't look "all-new" a bit but a significantly refresh; consequently, this move is a cheaper alternative than making this car entirely all-new without sacrificing the boldness of the Kia Optima with the current generation. ... It is a love it or hate it theme Kia has going on and definitely the noticeable characteristics are inside the cabin with quilted, diamond cuts throughout the available, prepossessing Nappa-trimmed leather seating, and climate control seats and a heated steering wheel. Although this Kia is lacking a naturally inspired V6, a more prominent look, and an overall bold, first-impression, but it does pack a statement with abundance in luxury with value for the money that is far less than a Lexus ES when comparably loaded with options and it will make a great alternative for anyone who wants practicality without the price tag.
Roman, As far as your leg rubbing on the hard console...I could say the same thing about every mid size sedan out there. I'm 6'3" tall I guess I'm going to have to find the car I like the best and rip the console out because I haven't found one yet I could take a long drive in. A huge deal breaker, but where am I gonna go.
I completely agree with Roman. I am 6'3", and those center console dividers cutting into my knee or my leg are a deal breaker. There is no functional reason for their existence. Get rid of them.
The design now even more reminds me of the Saab 9-5 in some ways but that's not necessarily a bad thing as they were great cars. The new dashboard looks great but a shame from the cheap hollow plastic feel and the center stack intruding more than it should. My father has an older model (his second one actually) and it's a top of the line turbo. He loves it and it surprises him just how fast it really is for a turbocharged four pot. It's no Honda Accord, but certainly a lot of car for the money than expected. Who knows, my old man might be tempted on a third Optima but the big question is just how drastic is the drop in horsepower and torque on the new turbocharged model compared to the previous generation? His 2013 (I think) in the dark metallic blue is a great looking family hauler and road trip ride.
By the look of it, this engine has a single turbo. As a rule of thumb, with a single turbo, you can have power at low to medium revs, or power at medium to high revs. The latter will give more power because more revs give more power, but you'll get turbo lag, and a peaky power delivery. The former will give better fuel economy because you don't need to rev the engine to deliver adequate power. The vast majority of car owners want fuel economy rather than top end power, therefore, KIA gave then low to medium revs power. The fact they only lost about 30hp speaks volumes for their engine tuning expertise.
I truly like my 2013 Optima SX with a much nicer steering wheel and shift knob, the dash and not to mention mine has 274Hp and looks like when I drove it out of the lot. It has 44,000+ miles and still runs brand new. I have to go test drive the 2016 but I'd rather keep mine...
Yea you should stick to yours. Although if you want to upgrade the 2015 is a good option seeing as how it has Android Auto and keeps that great design. Overall though this model has taken a step back in design. They've gone too far out of their way to make it look sporty.
I'll stick with my '11 sx. with 274 hp. Great car though. I've owned it for a year and only changed the oil. I think it's better built and more reliable than the North American offerings in it's class.
I am not impressed by this KIA cause they've been built their cars in super good quality and fascinating designs for few years. These guys are really serious players to consider in the market
I feel the same. The SX Technology Package (Panoramic Sunroof w/Power Sunshade, High Beam Assist, Harman/Kardon Premium Surround Sound, Advanced Smart Cruise Control (ASCC), Ventilated Front Seats) should be available with the LX 1.6T Trim
Instead they offer a shitty LX 1.6T Technology Package offering a garbage UVO eServices with Premium Navigation, Dual-Zone Automatic Temperature Control, USB 2.1 Charger Ports (2), Rear 12-Volt Power Outlet, LED Rear Combination Lamps. The Hybrid has another lacking package as well
Great description of the power delivery. Ill take a Honda/Toyota V6 over the turbo 4 any day. Too bad tho because I like Hyundai/Kia interior design and fit and finish
"Refined it?" That's arguable. Yeah, they gave it more gadgetry, but imo significantly cut into the aesthetics, especially on the interior, to do that and keep the price point the same. Cheaper, more plastickly-looking dash and console, no fog lights, no dual exhaust, simplified moonroof mechanics, and "little things" like removal of cup holder lighting. When they showed me the 2015 and 2016, I literally thought they were showing my an inferior package on the 2016 just the get the 2015 off the lot.
I've always liked this car's looks. However, when I rent vehicles I have stayed away from it. Why? If you look at the interior, especially the dashboard, it looks like it made up of multiple pieces of hard, cheap plastic glued together. In the 2016 they've finally solved that. Although the outside is still appealing, they made the dashboard one solid piece of a higher quality material with well integrated components. It is much more appealing. Also the 2016 has the Android Auto connectivity, which I experienced in a 2016 Sonata that I rented recently. Once you've tried it with your Android phone, you won't want a car without it or Apple Carplay interface. You can buy the base trim of the vehicle you like, but get high end functionally from the entertainment system.
Most makers can keep, or raise, the power levels, AND get you better fuel economy. That Kia cannot is very telling. The Turbo whines and strains to keep up with driver demands. Still, a very attractive car, if you aren't looking to win stoplight races, which you will lose badly to V6 Accord and Camry
+Evander Smart The badge is the main problem. It's the same as KIA, killed in action. And they also have other reliability issues. KIA is trying too hard to be killed in action.
Hyundai/kia should discontinue 2.0t and 2.4 and just go with 1.6t and excellent 3.3L V6. I testdrove 2015 Sonata 2.4 and 2.0 t a few days ago and came away impressed by how quiet and structurally solid it was. All it needed was better powertrain which Hyundai/Kia already has.
+Nicholas Jaworski 3 Series is much smaller, and it would be the base model with no options. Load up a 3 series toe the same equipment level and it is much more expensive.
+Nicholas Jaworski at 35K the 3 is a smaller car with less power and for the price and has fewer options unless you spend more for the higher trims and options.
The blinking sound at about 4:08 sounds so cheap. The chassis seems to be very noisy and the interior looks cheap. There are some nice pieces of things here and there, but overall it's like a knock-off Lego model.
Paying an extra 9K for the Turbo model as opposed to the base LX 2.4L is foolishness on the Optima. 247 HP is nothing to shake a stick at when you consider the 13' and 14's had 274 HP. Why the decrease? Beside the performance on the SX or SLX models is a disappointment. I bought the 2015 base model in Smokey blue. The car looks great. I have all the gadgets and creature comforts i need. No need to pony up an extra 5 or 10 grand just for some minor additions like heated seats, turbo, leather, sunroof, etc.
Roman shouldn't review cars he should be selling used ones. One of the absolute worst reviews on UA-cam, nothing he says makes sense. Video is nicely shot, but the host is as amateur as it gets.
Just traded my 2012 for a new 2015 Accord, Have a 2012 accord as well. This 2012 Optima was my second Kia and my last Kia. I am a sales rep on the road and the durability is not there, not even close to the Accord
people say KIA and Hyundai is bad in reliability....but a study showed Kia and Hyundai are the top 10 most reliable brand...people still think this is the 90s where the were bad? times change people.
Yup, it's plain ignorance. They have no idea what they're talking about.
People who claim about reliability are stuck on Hyundai's humble beginnings in the mid 1980's when there was a known issue with reliability.
I have 100,000 miles on my optima and it has been super cheap to maintain
Coming from someone who always thought KIA was garbage...I sat in a 2014 model at an auto show 2 years back and fell in love with the interior. Everything inside feels legit to the touch and it just looks great. Test drove the same car (SX-turbo) later that week and immediately made my purchase. Absolutely fantastic car. I've been super pleased with it so far. Best value I could find with all the features loaded into it. That model still had the 270hp engine which I thought was great. Kind of disappointed that they de-tuned it. But please, don't knock it til ya try it. KIA was stepped up their game in recent years.
" I've just got back from a 150 miles loop ". " I've only driven the car for about an hour ". Good God, just how fast is this car ???????
+MrKeyboardCommando The video is cut.. not all shot at exactly the same time.
+MrKeyboardCommando On these media drives there are always driving partners so divide the 150 miles by 2.
....shit for brains.
The Fast Lane Car Even so, seventy-five miles in an hour is clogging on a bit. Especially as, according to Tommy, Roman drives like a granny.
wantsanewvehicle I reckon it's the KIA that's a hypercar in disguise.
Annoying music. Nice review.
+John Smith Happy go lucky car, needs happy go lucky music! :D
+Wamii Yamii lol
They have only been screwing the rear lights since the first model in this styling . The 2011-12-13 had the best looking rear lights .
Also the 2013 model has the best alloy rims.
Would you say it has been refined?
Really Roman , the music is loud awful annoying.
I went car-shopping w/ my niece last December and she went with the 2015 Optima. Good choice! Packed w/ value and she gets 23mpg in the city (stop and go SoCal traffic - she doesn't do highways). Much better value then an Accord but comparable with the less-luxurious (and sportier) Mazda 6.
no, the accord is a muuuuuuch better value when u take into consideration the honda will last for 30+ years you will be lucky to get 10 out of a pos Kia
+Adammartini you wrong!! You get more tech features and a better warranty than an accord which makes this a better value. FYI: This is not a pos KIA whatever that means. It will not last just 10 years because it has just as good or even better quality than an accord. There an article online where KIA/Hyundai are beating German and Japanese cars in quality and reliability.
+Adammartini Accord is much better designed and engineered. Any one with a right mind would choose either Accord or Camry.
+Alex Razmjookhah Why better warranty and seemingly more tech features? It's for Kia to make up what it lacks to make it a okay value to compete with Toyota and Honda's offerings. Kia simply sounds cheap and low class.
+George Phillips why the hell do you care about the name it's still an awesome car. by the looks and quality of Kias lineup of cars it's not low class your just being biased. back in the 80s and early 90s Toyota and Honda had to make up for the mistakes they made too for the cars they build today. And Kia did the same thing. a lot of car companies improve overtime you just got to give them a chance.
I love my 2011 Optima SX!
Very professional looking video and review, and the music fits despite what others are saying IMO.
I just had this car as a rental- it was great! It drove like a sports car! I was surprised how well it handled corners and how responsive the transmission was! That's why I'm here to see what he thinks! I must say, take out any of the models out and you'll see how enjoyable it is! Sure beats a Camry or Accord!
Really love the KIA and the Nickelodeon music at the beginning of the review!
Haha :D
Time marker @1:10
don't get a Kia man... save yourself!!! ahhhhh
+Adammartini oh.. stop it lol
+Adammartini how is your pinto running ?
I've a 2013 Optima
After 2 Years of Using
I loved Everything about it
Why do you have your seat so far forward that your knees are at 90° angles? who drives like that anyways?
demaciu88 people that's short 🤷♀️
STOP WITH THE *UCK*NG HOLIDAY MUSIC!
+siddhant maharani Oh, come on, mahajan, if you're going to use an obscene gerund, at least have the courage to print the whole F**KING word !!!!!
+MrKeyboardCommando DEATH TO HOLIDAY MUSIC!!!!
chop1234ification I agree, it's bloody awful‼️💥💥💥
Interior looks a bit similar to a BMW and the fact that they use Harman Kardon ( same as BMW) would most definitely get them buyers, smart strategy.
i hoped they reworked the suspension... My 2012 SX feels every bump, and has tons of wind noise... How was the wind noise? Also, the wondering on the hwy is annoying....
Kia engineers tweaked the horsepower and torque curves with the 2.0L turbo. Now the 2016 model has 245hp and 260 lb-ft torque vs. last year's model which had 274hp and 269 lb-ft torque. Yes, the fuel economy is better and you mentioned the torque curve isn't as peaky.
Did the 2016 Optima lose any weight to compensate for the lower power output? I'd be curious as to what the power-to-weight ratio is for the 2016 Optima vs the 2015 model.
I thought the 2014/15 models were less than the 2011/12/13 models for the same reason, fuel economy.
The old one looks better imo.
nemanja milosevic nah.
Less power? :( screw mpg.. more powa, please! I really like optimas since 2010 or whatever when they come out with this style.
How does this compare to the Mazda 6?
When the optima came out I was blown away but ever since then there has been no real change Kia need to step it up because you cannot even tell the optimas apart since they look the Same with tiny upgrades
So less power but is it actually slower than the 2015 model??
looks way better than the passat (usa model)
why is the 2015 2.0L turbo rated @ 274 HP 269ft/lbs
and the 2016 2.0L turbo only rated @ 245 HP 260 ft/lbs ?
We have a 2015 Forte LX manual. We're pretty satisfied with it, first to second gear is a bit "clunky', paint job not that great but it was cheap (less than $15k cdn) and we're getting about 40 miles/us gallon. Mentioning all t his because I don't suspect you'll ever do a review on a Forte.
What happened to Optima's clean design? Every generations, they mess around with the design now it is indistinguishable...
+chltmdwp The worst design part is the in the badge KIA, killed in action.
+George Phillips Pretty easily remedied by a set of $25 aftermarket badges, if you're really that worried about it, which you shouldn't be because that's obviously not what they intended it to mean
I still don't get it why it's named after "Killed In Action."
+George Phillips dude it's a Korean/Chinese character portmanteau it's not an English acronym
We use English, not Korean/Chinese. KIA means Killed In Action in all dictionaries. It's a heinous name.
Are you guys going to review the new 2016 lexus is200t ?? Its been out in dealerships and no one has done a proper review :/
the old one was better. 247 horsepower stopped being impressive when the Nissan Altima came out with the VQ V6
Fog lights came standard on the 2015 model. Those look like plastic inserts on the 2016 model, unless it's an LED bar or something.
the new Optima has real air inlets
Oh is what those ugly things are?? They need to put some foglights back on the car and find a better way to mount the inlets
Hey Roman was actually an adult in this one. That's good. Also where was this video taken? It looked nice and scenic to me. As for the car. It seems like a shame that they had to cut the hp to gain the mpg. But mpg is very important. If it takes to much money to get their that leaves less money for snacks and other things.
You mentioned that it bothered your right knee and that some other cars do that as well- we are looking for a mid size sedan with good gas mileage since my rather large husband drives the interstate alot back and forth from work but he also has that problem with certain cars bothering his knee/leg on that side or lifting his left leg up too high on the left side cause of that hump in the floor some of them have. What do you recommend looking at and what do you recommend staying away from? thanks so much
Beautiful review!!
This car is beautiful, nuff said. Especially in black! And to think 10 years ago I wouldn't even considered a Kia.
does anyone know who manufacturers kia? also is kia reliable like toyota and honda?
Love the music guys. Keep it up.
I'm really stuck on getting the Kia Optima or the Hyundai Genesis, both are great cars, both are Korean, but I'm not sure which one I should get. Both are pretty good looking, reliable, and affordable, but I'm really going towards the Hyundai, but now since a 2016 Optima came out, now I'm on square one, any suggestions?
Genesis is of course larger than Optima.. also much better in term of specs. I would go for Genesis without even thinking which to choose
+MJ Maranan Have you considered the Kia K900 or Cadenza?
Have you bought a K.I.A. or a Hyundie? Why not an American or European car?
Are you serious? How in the world can you even debate with yourself over which car you should get between the Genesis or optima! First off Hyundai owns Kia for the most part. Secondly, those cars aren't even in the same category. The Genesis isn't even going to be called a Hyundai Genesis starting in 2017, it will just be called Genisis. So that should tell you how good that car is. If you already made your decision I hope you made the smart one. My friend, the Genesis is a FAR better car than the optima.
+George Phillips Are you serious? A Hyundai will outlast any Chevy, Ford , or Chrysler Dodge. Not sure what rock you live under but Hyundai goes on forever now days.
I want one, ill get one one day, I currently have a 2014 nissan versa and I get jellious/envious every time someone pulls up with a optima at my job.
can you do a review on the lx model with the 1.6 turbo and 7 speed? and 0-60? I wanna see how the dual clutch handles itself.
I just rented one of these. It is awesome!
I like the 2015 Kia Optima in contrast to the 2016 Kia Optima, which doesn't look "all-new" a bit but a significantly refresh; consequently, this move is a cheaper alternative than making this car entirely all-new without sacrificing the boldness of the Kia Optima with the current generation. ... It is a love it or hate it theme Kia has going on and definitely the noticeable characteristics are inside the cabin with quilted, diamond cuts throughout the available, prepossessing Nappa-trimmed leather seating, and climate control seats and a heated steering wheel.
Although this Kia is lacking a naturally inspired V6, a more prominent look, and an overall bold, first-impression, but it does pack a statement with abundance in luxury with value for the money that is far less than a Lexus ES when comparably loaded with options and it will make a great alternative for anyone who wants practicality without the price tag.
Back up camara?
Wish it had LED turn signals, considering it has LED taillights and Bi-Xenon headlights, and LED DRLs.
it looks like a storm trooper....I LOVE IT!
De music is really awesome and and makes the videos more refined . :-)
Roman, As far as your leg rubbing on the hard console...I could say the same thing about every mid size sedan out there. I'm 6'3" tall I guess I'm going to have to find the car I like the best and rip the console out because I haven't found one yet I could take a long drive in. A huge deal breaker, but where am I gonna go.
I completely agree with Roman. I am 6'3", and those center console dividers cutting into my knee or my leg are a deal breaker. There is no functional reason for their existence. Get rid of them.
wish if they have done a v6 model.
krono terria turbocharging a 4 cylinder gets similar power with better mileage
I wanted to find out if it has ventilated seats, diff bw 15 and 16. This guy totally missed everything.
can you do a review of 2016 Chevy Cruze? thanks
LIke the car, hate the lower power!
The design now even more reminds me of the Saab 9-5 in some ways but that's not necessarily a bad thing as they were great cars.
The new dashboard looks great but a shame from the cheap hollow plastic feel and the center stack intruding more than it should.
My father has an older model (his second one actually) and it's a top of the line turbo. He loves it and it surprises him just how fast it really is for a turbocharged four pot.
It's no Honda Accord, but certainly a lot of car for the money than expected.
Who knows, my old man might be tempted on a third Optima but the big question is just how drastic is the drop in horsepower and torque on the new turbocharged model compared to the previous generation? His 2013 (I think) in the dark metallic blue is a great looking family hauler and road trip ride.
how is thus car compared to the fusion
By the look of it, this engine has a single turbo. As a rule of thumb, with a single turbo, you can have power at low to medium revs, or power at medium to high revs. The latter will give more power because more revs give more power, but you'll get turbo lag, and a peaky power delivery. The former will give better fuel economy because you don't need to rev the engine to deliver adequate power. The vast majority of car owners want fuel economy rather than top end power, therefore, KIA gave then low to medium revs power. The fact they only lost about 30hp speaks volumes for their engine tuning expertise.
matthew von Thank you for agreeing with my comment. Your support is appreciated.
I'm not a huge fan of the flat steering wheel and new shift knob. Sometimes it's better to just leave things alone...
I truly like my 2013 Optima SX with a much nicer steering wheel and shift knob, the dash and not to mention mine has 274Hp and looks like when I drove it out of the lot. It has 44,000+ miles and still runs brand new. I have to go test drive the 2016 but I'd rather keep mine...
Yea you should stick to yours. Although if you want to upgrade the 2015 is a good option seeing as how it has Android Auto and keeps that great design. Overall though this model has taken a step back in design. They've gone too far out of their way to make it look sporty.
The Saturn ION is back!
they should've made it 4 wheel drive at least
The 2016 model looks like a refresh of the 2015 model.
get the Mazda 6 if you want sporty midsize sedan.
I'll stick with my '11 sx. with 274 hp. Great car though. I've owned it for a year and only changed the oil. I think it's better built and more reliable than the North American offerings in it's class.
I don't like it how they took fog lights out
Waiting for the 2.0T camry.
Kia just completely copied BMWs radio and AC buttons
I am not impressed by this KIA cause they've been built their cars in super good quality and fascinating designs for few years. These guys are really serious players to consider in the market
I don't see any similarity with the BMW though.
+Alex Eu One word to describe you Stupid! lol! and you must be an apple gaynatic hahaha!
Why would any carmaker want to copy a shitty BMW?
+albert7139 because every car is better than a Kia n they know it lol
Ah Koreans, they make three great things: Cars, Phones, and K-Pop.
kinda annoyed with car makers not offering the premium features coupled with the "eco" engines. maybe i dont want anything but great mpg and features.
I feel the same. The SX Technology Package (Panoramic Sunroof w/Power Sunshade, High Beam Assist, Harman/Kardon Premium Surround Sound, Advanced Smart Cruise Control (ASCC), Ventilated Front Seats) should be available with the LX 1.6T Trim
Instead they offer a shitty LX 1.6T Technology Package offering a garbage UVO eServices with Premium Navigation, Dual-Zone Automatic Temperature Control, USB 2.1 Charger Ports (2), Rear 12-Volt Power Outlet, LED Rear Combination Lamps.
The Hybrid has another lacking package as well
Great description of the power delivery. Ill take a Honda/Toyota V6 over the turbo 4 any day. Too bad tho because I like Hyundai/Kia interior design and fit and finish
"Refined it?" That's arguable. Yeah, they gave it more gadgetry, but imo significantly cut into the aesthetics, especially on the interior, to do that and keep the price point the same. Cheaper, more plastickly-looking dash and console, no fog lights, no dual exhaust, simplified moonroof mechanics, and "little things" like removal of cup holder lighting. When they showed me the 2015 and 2016, I literally thought they were showing my an inferior package on the 2016 just the get the 2015 off the lot.
I've always liked this car's looks. However, when I rent vehicles I have stayed away from it. Why? If you look at the interior, especially the dashboard, it looks like it made up of multiple pieces of hard, cheap plastic glued together. In the 2016 they've finally solved that. Although the outside is still appealing, they made the dashboard one solid piece of a higher quality material with well integrated components. It is much more appealing. Also the 2016 has the Android Auto connectivity, which I experienced in a 2016 Sonata that I rented recently. Once you've tried it with your Android phone, you won't want a car without it or Apple Carplay interface. You can buy the base trim of the vehicle you like, but get high end functionally from the entertainment system.
Garra love them hiv lights
LOL HID
Most makers can keep, or raise, the power levels, AND get you better fuel economy. That Kia cannot is very telling. The Turbo whines and strains to keep up with driver demands. Still, a very attractive car, if you aren't looking to win stoplight races, which you will lose badly to V6 Accord and Camry
+Evander Smart I test drove this one but my heart went to the xse v6 camry.
Lose badly to Camry? LOL
+mohaz23 What do you know? Lol!
Yeah unfortunately it will be smoked by a Camry Accord V6 badly and also those still get almost same gas mileage as this turbo4.
+Evander Smart The badge is the main problem. It's the same as KIA, killed in action. And they also have other reliability issues. KIA is trying too hard to be killed in action.
I love the rear end of the new one
Whose watching this in 2019 where this body style will be replaced this summer ?
Please give us a station wagon variant this time around here in the US (for those of us who don't want an SUV).
We have a 2018 wagon I live in Belgium it's so cool better then boring suv s
Hyundai/kia should discontinue 2.0t and 2.4 and just go with 1.6t and excellent 3.3L V6.
I testdrove 2015 Sonata 2.4 and 2.0 t a few days ago and came away impressed by how quiet
and structurally solid it was.
All it needed was better powertrain which Hyundai/Kia already has.
Lil Red Robbin' Your Check! It's you updated! D:
Looks nice inside and out, to bad they don't have a sports version.
What do you mean? This is the sportiest version.
+Justin Kelly exactly lol
Now that is KIA...
At 35k, why buy this over a 3 series?
Smart
+Nicholas Jaworski 3 Series is much smaller, and it would be the base model with no options. Load up a 3 series toe the same equipment level and it is much more expensive.
+Johan Joubert Yup. I never understand why people say stuff like that.
+Nicholas Jaworski at 35K the 3 is a smaller car with less power and for the price and has fewer options unless you spend more for the higher trims and options.
BMW is 3 series is around 45k $$
Sporty, but no punch?
Horsepower does not define a sports car. On the other hand, torque and power are prerequisites for a muscle car.
The blinking sound at about 4:08 sounds so cheap. The chassis seems to be very noisy and the interior looks cheap. There are some nice pieces of things here and there, but overall it's like a knock-off Lego model.
+George Phillips it sounded so weak
Have you ever test drive this car? Lol. A typical keyboard warrior
shut the hell you guys never been in this car or drove so u can't say shit.
shut the hell you guys never been in this car or drove so u can't say shit.
shut the hell you guys never been in this car or drove so u can't say shit.
the cool thing about buying a toyota is no one will make fun of you for driving it like they will in this car lol
Love that word "refined" don't ya....
true said
I got my new 2016 xlx Optima I love everything about it I got my new 2016 ex lax optimum my love everything about it
I like this car.
Paying an extra 9K for the Turbo model as opposed to the base LX 2.4L is foolishness on the Optima. 247 HP is nothing to shake a stick at when you consider the 13' and 14's had 274 HP. Why the decrease? Beside the performance on the SX or SLX models is a disappointment. I bought the 2015 base model in Smokey blue. The car looks great. I have all the gadgets and creature comforts i need. No need to pony up an extra 5 or 10 grand just for some minor additions like heated seats, turbo, leather, sunroof, etc.
Very, very handsome car.
I hate when they slap "turbo" badges on the car. looks tacky, like the kind you get at auto zone.
Like the Forte, Kia took a great looking car and redesigned to someone looking more bulbous. Ironically the Sonata looks sharper than the Optima now
its nice great reviewers
pshhh y'all are haters. I love the music :p
245hp seems low but it is enough imo. companies nowadays are too wrapped up in number wars.
Roman shouldn't review cars he should be selling used ones. One of the absolute worst reviews on UA-cam, nothing he says makes sense. Video is nicely shot, but the host is as amateur as it gets.
I saw a top of the line one of these stickered at $37K! That's $2K more than a top of the line Camry or Accord!Go figure!
The hell is the music choice lmao
Whelp....guess I wont be trading my 2011 optima ex turbo in for a new one anytime soon......put the gd power back.
Really bad fuel economy for a turbo engine, but great exterior design though.
Just traded my 2012 for a new 2015 Accord, Have a 2012 accord as well. This 2012 Optima was my second Kia and my last Kia. I am a sales rep on the road and the durability is not there, not even close to the Accord
You lost my interest at 245 HP. Ill stick with my 2012 sx with 275
Don't get it... Your 2012 puts out 274hp and gets 34 mph highway... How is 245hp getting 32 mpg highway an increase in 2016..?
2013 best model year. period