@@kristian_johnson87 I just printed 5 playsets of the true duals for 30c each. There's no reason to pay more than 30c per mtg card in a casual format with no rules regarding card's authenticity.
All those whiffs are proof that all Keene Gate decks should have Strionic Resonator and Lithoform Engine to get extra combat damage triggers. They can also be used on the ward trigger: imagine someone aiming removal at Keene, totally willing to pay 9 life, only to hear "okay, but now you have to pay 18 life instead." Lithoform Engine can also copy Maze's End's activation.
Although it didn't matter, did Couz count his Thespian Stage'd copy of the Basilisk Gate as one of the gates counted? Because Maze's End requires 10 gates with different names. Unless I missed a different gate he put into play when he went from 5 to 7.
With nine fingers you don't actually want to search your library for lands that often with mazes end. It's better to have nine fingers do the searching. If you wiff twice in a row, and haven't shuffled, and you're say scrying, or surveiling, or self-milling, it will cycle through them quicker I feel. Like search away yes, but also I think being able to cycle or sift through the cards while you have searches or nine fingers trigger happening will make it easier to line up lands.
I wonder with Keene, if you put that many cards on the bottom of your deck, should you shuffle your deck that much? I get the idea of "why use the mana for maze," but that would lower your chances of getting gates, but then the tutoring for gates is far more consistent. I think may have play it to find out.
Nice evolution for the Trostani deck. I'm planning to upgrade my Wilhelt deck to Esper. Currently deciding between Sefris, Varina, Raffine or Bane for commander.
I can confirm I have nine fingers in my helper kenrith deck and I have been able to get her 9 gate trigger multiple times it is sooo satisfying. I recommend adding cards that tutor for two non basics onto field.
I couldn’t take my Trostani deck apart so I made a Ghired one that has other synergies. I think they play very differently and you can enjoy both commanders in separate decks.
I may have missed something, but couldn’t couz have copied mazes end with thespian stage. Attack with the unblockable untapping it and thus have 8 gates in play with two mazes end resolves?
When he activated Baldurs Gate to play and equip the sword, did he have five gates in total? Because then it should have only gotten 4 mana, since Baldurs Gate does not count itself. Not a big deal on the end of course.
Ghired is a beast, upgraded the deck a little bit about 2 years ago and barely changed it since then. Seance, Helm of the Host and some big dumb tokens like Avent of the Wurm are power houses. I have not though of adding Wulfgar to the deck though, clever inclusion! I will do that as well I think...since i got him in my binder catching dust.
Scapeshift sorta seems like it would just win if cast in the mid game in a mazes end gates deck. Kura the boundless sky is also pretty sweet grabbing a chunk of any 3 lands on death.
Hi, amazing video! I noticed that Ziatora's decklist is anavailable in the description. Would it be possible to add it? I find the deck to be very interesting and wanted to take inspiration from the decklist :)
Really like the Ghired deck. Especially as the strategy is very similar to mine. I already thought so when you explained your trostani deck once as getting token copies of other stuff. Hey that much more of a ghired deck! I just want to tell you that delina wild mage doesnt work well with an attack trigger deck as the token comes into play attacking and isnt declared attacker. Just take Aurelia the warleader instead which, such as Port razor i guess, can go infinit if you can get token copy of them.
Sorry if the answer is obvious, but how did Bryce play a 5cmc card at 3:00? Since last turn he missed a land and played a 3cmc card. Is it cause of bloom tender?
"Sacrifices nine fingers."
Commander's getting real intense nowadays.
Playing tropical island next to guildgates is really effing with my head.
When tropical island enters the battlefield, it gains the flavor text of “it smells like broke in here”
@@kristian_johnson87 I just printed 5 playsets of the true duals for 30c each. There's no reason to pay more than 30c per mtg card in a casual format with no rules regarding card's authenticity.
Just use a basic that says "tropical island" or better yet, helper cards.@@ricepresidents
All those whiffs are proof that all Keene Gate decks should have Strionic Resonator and Lithoform Engine to get extra combat damage triggers. They can also be used on the ward trigger: imagine someone aiming removal at Keene, totally willing to pay 9 life, only to hear "okay, but now you have to pay 18 life instead."
Lithoform Engine can also copy Maze's End's activation.
wow, great idea!
Bro I didn’t think of using strionic… I have a couple copy spells so I can potentially get 2 triggers but that’s cool
roaming throne now too
Don't feel bad for Bryce, he didn't block and worse of all, he had non-dragons in his Ur-Dragon deck!
You're right!
Don't feel bad because if he didn't get cheap shot, it would have been a shorter video
Even with the early Maze's End, it still shows you how hard it is to actually hit it straight up
I am happy to see Ghired is back. I hope you play him more often.
Although it didn't matter, did Couz count his Thespian Stage'd copy of the Basilisk Gate as one of the gates counted? Because Maze's End requires 10 gates with different names.
Unless I missed a different gate he put into play when he went from 5 to 7.
With different names being a key factor
With nine fingers you don't actually want to search your library for lands that often with mazes end. It's better to have nine fingers do the searching. If you wiff twice in a row, and haven't shuffled, and you're say scrying, or surveiling, or self-milling, it will cycle through them quicker I feel. Like search away yes, but also I think being able to cycle or sift through the cards while you have searches or nine fingers trigger happening will make it easier to line up lands.
Never seen elesh norn in a dragon deck...I love it!
Yeah I was thinking about that as well.
Norn
@@mastershake42019 ?
I wonder with Keene, if you put that many cards on the bottom of your deck, should you shuffle your deck that much? I get the idea of "why use the mana for maze," but that would lower your chances of getting gates, but then the tutoring for gates is far more consistent. I think may have play it to find out.
Two of my favorite commanders in one game!
That infected gate was DIRTY ! I LOVED IT !
I started watching the channel when I did my Trostani from scratch :(
Will be missed.
Nice evolution for the Trostani deck.
I'm planning to upgrade my Wilhelt deck to Esper. Currently deciding between Sefris, Varina, Raffine or Bane for commander.
I recommend Varina if you wanna stick with zombies and raffine if you wanna be more flexible but bane is my personal fav out of all of them!
Varina is the best and willhelt is pure gas in a varina deck
Sulti zombiesis also a ton of fun my sidisi deck easily makes 11 or more zombie tokens every game
I played against a nine-fingers gate deck and honestly it can turbo out the mazes end win pretty fast if built that way.
I can confirm I have nine fingers in my helper kenrith deck and I have been able to get her 9 gate trigger multiple times it is sooo satisfying. I recommend adding cards that tutor for two non basics onto field.
What did you use to put 9 of your fingers in your deck asking for a friend
Titania’s command ❤️
I couldn’t take my Trostani deck apart so I made a Ghired one that has other synergies. I think they play very differently and you can enjoy both commanders in separate decks.
Honestly, I just wanted to make Terror of the Peak tokens. Miirym thankfully makes that very easy to do.
RIP Trostani... You will be remembered
*spoilers* she back
@@MTGMuddstah LOL, yah I could never see you without her, Krenko, or Mistform. LONG LIVE GOBLIN FACTORY
I may have missed something, but couldn’t couz have copied mazes end with thespian stage. Attack with the unblockable untapping it and thus have 8 gates in play with two mazes end resolves?
Yep if he did that instead of copying basilisk’s gate he would’ve won
When he activated Baldurs Gate to play and equip the sword, did he have five gates in total?
Because then it should have only gotten 4 mana, since Baldurs Gate does not count itself.
Not a big deal on the end of course.
Ghired is a beast, upgraded the deck a little bit about 2 years ago and barely changed it since then. Seance, Helm of the Host and some big dumb tokens like Avent of the Wurm are power houses.
I have not though of adding Wulfgar to the deck though, clever inclusion! I will do that as well I think...since i got him in my binder catching dust.
Scapeshift sorta seems like it would just win if cast in the mid game in a mazes end gates deck. Kura the boundless sky is also pretty sweet grabbing a chunk of any 3 lands on death.
Liking before viewing is where we're at 👍
I think Couz should change his name to Kuzco, Nine-Fingers.
I would of destroyed the maze’s end with beast within, to stop him from being able to win with gates.
just activate it in response and congrats you wasted a beast within lol
Hi, amazing video! I noticed that Ziatora's decklist is anavailable in the description. Would it be possible to add it? I find the deck to be very interesting and wanted to take inspiration from the decklist :)
Na, the Ur-Dragon player was starting to run away with the game, surgical player removal like Tainted Strike is there for a reason.
Player removal, best removal
What’s sleeves couz using? Love that color!
I use my ghired as a blink deck. It’s pretty fun and overwhelm the board with rhinos which are my favorite animal 😊.
Really like the Ghired deck. Especially as the strategy is very similar to mine. I already thought so when you explained your trostani deck once as getting token copies of other stuff. Hey that much more of a ghired deck! I just want to tell you that delina wild mage doesnt work well with an attack trigger deck as the token comes into play attacking and isnt declared attacker. Just take Aurelia the warleader instead which, such as Port razor i guess, can go infinit if you can get token copy of them.
The gates deck may not be that powerful but it does really look like a fun and interesting deck
Love to see Troatani turning into ghired. Did the same thing, and now it has further evolved into 5c to also include all the blue token cards.
No Ziatora decklist?
Sorry if the answer is obvious, but how did Bryce play a 5cmc card at 3:00? Since last turn he missed a land and played a 3cmc card. Is it cause of bloom tender?
Like 1 of 6 creatures bryce played were dragons. I came for flying lizard dude
I didn't get how this was infect lethal damage ? should've been 9 infect ? What am i missing ? ^^'
That's what I was thinking too. With Elesh Norn out and Gate Colossus only being an 8/8 it should have only done 7 infect from 6/6 with +1/+0, right?
7 actually, right? Elesh Norn. Big oof on this game if so.
Oh, I just re-watched that turn. He activated Basilisk Gate on it pre-combat to give it +X/+X for how many gates he had
Really nice game, enjoyed watching it
Duplicate is cool
Whiffs on Gates is why I took my Keene deck apart.
It is always sad when I see 2 gates in my top 9. However that is the risk of the haha gate deck and I’m ok with that
Would it kill wotc to print a wubrg gates legend?
@@fenixmeaney6170 maybe in the next return to ravnica
@@wyatthumble6990 Niv 5.0 better do 5color gates after the implicit maze race he set up
Just run a lot of land tutors and card draw
Bryce losing had been the saddest thing I’ve seen all day
I had a feeling cuz had enough gates to draw the 9 cards and keep them
New video!
It’s good nevermore?
trostani grew up😭😭 why the change?
gave up on trostani?
good game!
The tainted strike really was kind of a feelsbad moment :(
Will you play some Krenko soon? :)
Dragons ( :
If every video would have a different joke at the start, i would appreciate it.
Baldurs gate makes 1-#gates mana because it doesn't count itself
Why does he keep putting his gates into play untapped?
Gond Gate lets Gates come into play untapped.
Ziatora was getting messed up lol everytime he played something it died
Elesh norn in UR DRAGON ? wtf bro what deck list is this hahahahah