What D&D Alignment is Korra?
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I'm surprised Literature Devil hasn't commented on this one, considering his unhealthy obsession with this subject.
Avatar's are tragic. Imagine having no control over your fate and destiny and everyone either hates/ fears you except for a few allies. Kinda like being a Grey Warden
Dragon age reference
Dragon Age references are needed and missed. The plight of the Wardens is fascinating.
@@willsword8100 Lmao u wanna join a guild that slowly loses its mind and has to fight the corrupted humanoid races before sucumbing to the Blight?"
@linkholder I mean. Not actively, but I understand the need to have the Wardens. Without them, the blight consumes Thedas. That did we don't know the consequences of killing the archdaemons/elder gods, so who knows. Maybe Dreadwolf will clear things up.
@@willsword8100"pft you think the Blight is real? That shit was made up by the chantry wake up sheep."
-Fool of Thedas, Brandon sneaze
Fully agree on the take at the end. Korra could have benefited so much more from a fully planned out story and no Nickelodeon exec tampering
Honestly my favorite thing to come from Legend of Korra is both Amon and Zaheer. Both are cool in design and are such unique villains
Every season introduced at least one fantastic villain. Even Season 2, as reviled as it is, had Varrick.
@@weirdguy1495 I haven't seen season 2 in a while, but while I don't remember it as being good, I don't remember it being that terrible. Why does everyone hate it so much?
@@griffinbaker3509 Korra's romance with Mako ends terribly and gives way to an even worse retread of the love triangle. The conflict is a lot more black and white than both before and since. Unalaq in general is absolute doodoo, and Vaatu isn't much better. The kaiju fight makes no sense. I could go on, but you see my point, right?
Amon is great in concept but terrible in execution IMO. Gradually the story stripped away everything about him that was interesting and basically nothing remained. His motivation? Petty, and the tragic elements were faked (down to that cheesy peel-off scar.) His powers? Also faked, albeit with the buff that Bloodbending got. His intelligence? Frankly non-existent in some parts. And his ultimate defeat? A deus ex machina of Korra getting access to Airbending out of nowhere, as though that was separate from her bending in general. Amon is the Goku Black of Avatar; FANTASTIC introduction, weak as heck finish.
@@JacksonJinn I wouldn't say that his ending was all bad. His death was one of the highlights of the first season.
1:30 of COURSE she's polarizing... that's where the water tribes COME from
BOOOOOOO!!!
@@TheLoadingCrew To be fair, Sokka would be proud
@@serenitysilvermoonsadly. He would
I find it very interesting how if you take the avatars in chronological order ,
every one is working on overcorrecting at the regrets of the previous one had.
If one was all work on the physical world , the next would focus on the spirit world to the detriment of the physical one .
(the one who lost his wife to the face thief is the second one)
Aang was took time to run away from his duties and focused on the spiritual side , where Korra egerly runs to her duties as avatar but cant sit down to meditate .
Exactly and if you look at the others though out the lore it is that same cycle
The Red Lotus was an AWESOME concept imo. Whatever problems season 2 had, it did lead to a few really cool villains. We got the see just how IMPORTANT the Air Nomads passivity actually was, when someone without such hangups gains their powers and it leads to a really BRUTAL death. And the no-armed chick with waterbending combat tentacles? I wish she had more screen time, she was so cool.
Gotta be honest, i think Korra is an interesting character who got screwed by a surprisingly sloppy presentation and execution. You have an avatar who basically have no real identity outside of being the avatar as a direct consecuence of being trained since such a young age, which is kind of the reason why they used to wait till they grow before reveal their fate to them. With Korra they had her training in a closed and controled enviroment the reason being Zaheer but still was a very negative thing for Korra both as the avatar and as a person, of course she didnt developed any spiritual bond. And my issue is that they finally started to tackle "aspects" of this issue in book 3 and 4, and parts of the first one. And i remember picking up this since season 1 and waiting for them to finally adress it, hence why book 3 and 4 works for me. But it also keep getting sidetracked by other plots thing and the whole thing end up getting diluted....
I honestly like legend of korra a looot, but there is a looot of things that could ve been done better, imo
Once again excelent video, love yout work!
I know Azula & Ozai are understandably considered the best Avatar villains, but I personally love Kuvira the most. Her personality, the way she is a dark mirror of Korra, plus Zelda Williams’ badass voice acting!
I stand by the opinion that the villains in TLOK are all better than in ATLA. Azula is nuanced but is still very much a "deliciously evil" villain like Ozai, and Ozai is just Azula in terms of characterization but with less depth. Hell, any depth with Azula isn't even fully touched on in the series; all we get are just one half a line in the beach episode (that's immediately undercut by her in the same sentence), her breakdown in the finale, and...that's it, until you get to the comics. If anything, she just stands as a juxtaposition for Zuko's character rather than have any nuance of her own actually examined.
*Edit: And that's not saying anything about Zhao, who 100% is more a villain/juxtaposition for Zuko's character (again) rather than the main group, on top of being incredibly impotent and basically "failing upwards." The fact that Stuart included him in the list of "great Avatar villains" in this video made me double-take. lol
With the exception of Unalaq, all of the villains of Korra, despite each one having less time as the primary active antagonist as Azula, are at least as effective (if not moreso) as villains while also being complex characters from the start.
@@Mrryn Funnily enough I think one of the more nuanced villains in Avatar is kind of dead before the events of the show in the form of Firelord Sozin. Unlike Ozai who just seemed to see the other nations as inferior to the Fire nation, Sozin wanted to expand the firenation into the other nations because the firenation was the most prosperous nation due to its technological progress. To Sozin incorporating these ideas into the 4 nations would spread the firenation's prosperity across the world. Sozin's mentality actually is a similar mentality to Kuvira just at a much grander scale.
My judgment Chaotic Stupid or something like that😅.
EDIT: Hun...well, I guess growing to be a Hero/Diplomat kinda requires that you get into the LG aliment at the end.
That fits
The history lesson about 4chain of all places being excited for new Korra episodes back in the day is such a crucial point in all this. Someday when there are film & television marketing textbooks written about the digital age, Korra is gonna have to be included when talking about the dynamic between audiences, writers, and producers.
It wasn’t just 4chan I was also one of those people who were excited for Saturday. I was also livid with my parents for scheduling a strange play session on that day meaning I couldn’t watch it when it aired.
4chain
Korra aside, can we appreciate how main middle age characters are mostly well written here? I rarely see animations put that much attention to oldies
Look, while I understand the environment in wich Korra as a whole was created, and a lot of it is understandable, I don't think it is an excuse as a whole for her character, there were many times where we can all agree that the execution could have been way better, she is being put multiple times in a badly written script (season 2 ending being the most atrocious), for example korasami doesn't make any sense, Korra should be one of the people Asami hates the most, since she literally stole her bf, how could the writers skip by that? I do understand the legend of Korra as a whole as a very flawed show with very good ideas and parts in the middle, I really wish we could have the writers in a good environment to rewrite this story to address it's clear problems.
This whole episode was pretty eye opening. Know how nick practically took this series in the back alley to shot it several times, it made me a appreciate it a lot more than I did before. It’s not the best if could be, I mean the blight of book 2 is so bad it may as well be a spot of mold on a loaf of bread. But for what we got it’s pretty damn good. Also that 4chan meme was basically me when the show aired on tv. Good
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I was fairly neutral on Korra from Seasons 1 and 2, but I really liked what they did with her in 3 and 4.
Season 3 of Korra was actually really, really good.
I was neutral on 1
Season 2 was absolute garbage
Seasons 3 and 4 were amazing. I just wish more people could see how genuinely good the show is past 2
@@IAteABox Imo 2 is underrated. The shadow of season 1’s love triangle and Lin’s plot incompetence are the only things really wrong with it.
@@IAteABox There are only two things i do like about season 2 was the first avatar two parter (and no it does not break the lore).
Second Varric.
21:45 Zaheer is a fascinating character and villain; I would be thrilled to hear your take on him! My wife calls him “the man who breaks the alignment chart”.
Speaking of Korra as a series, I neither hate it nor love it. IMO Korra is really annoying in seasons 1 and 2, but my gosh her character growth in seasons 3 and 4 is a thing of beauty!
The rabid fans who either adore every second of the show and can accept no criticism of it, or hate the fact that it exists, are the real headaches.
Replying to get this comment more attention, I would also like to see Zaheer's alignment. My personal favorite Avatar villain actually.
Yes, he'd be a good one. I haven't seen s4 yet, but his s3 persona, I'd put in True Neutral. Evil methods, good reasoning, desire for balance.
I really like Korra and I definitely blame a lot of its problems on Nickelodeon for not giving the show staff enough time
I thing TLOK's biggest problem is it just doesn't live up to ATLA. It's ok, but next to the masterpiece of the original, looks so bad.
As a fanfic writer in my teens... The term Mary Sue was actually quite well known in that circle... Anyway, that's one reason, the other reason is the scummy moves she did to Bolin and Mako. I only watched half of the first book so I can't give full feedback on her whole character but trying to root for someone this... unlikable kinda rubbed me the wrong way. But I am excited for the adult Gaang stuff. Hopefully it'll be good... Anddddd hopefully they don't default to just keep using these characters all the time.
A new "Avatar" would be fine and I'd still want to see that, but I just wish Korra had more support. As for the Asami stuff, I don't mind it but I want to watch Avatar for the cool martial arts, compelling story and politics of a world there there is a very clear divide between groups of people, sure the OG Avatar had romance plots and stuff, but that wasn't the focus right? Again I haven't watched the whole thing so I can't really say but from what I seen in book 1, the weird love... square(?) was kinda meh and from what I heard from the grapevine, it doesn't get better.
Honestly Korra coulda been fine if people in the world actually called her out on her shit. At no point does she really suffer the concequences of her actions without it being imidiately fixed a second later.
My problem is that through the show I never get the feel that she grows, because her response when a thing don't go her way is just to run headfirst in and try and fight it. Which almost always gets her beat the fuck up. The end of season one almost gave her concequenses but they had to deus ex aang in to fix everything and give her undeserved extra stuff like energy bending and free avatar state control.
There are things I do like in the show. But the poor decisions made overshadows it by a huge margin.
Edit: Love triangle does not get better and actively takes up time that could have been better spent. The end resuly is with no buildup at the last episode Korra turns Bi and gets toghether with Assami... The girl who she literaly stole Mako from... And like a day later broke up with...
@@TrixyTrixter And that's why she really earns the Mary Sue accusations until the end of s3. The world keeps letting her off the hook and she does irreparable damage to it in s2. Also the whole "she can use the elements as a kid, but only learns air bending when it's most convenient (and in a way contrary to its teaching)".
@robinthrush9672 The young child Korra using three elements is so bad. Like it serves no actual purpouse except "Look Look Korra is so awesoem she can use multiple elements with no training!" Just cutting the entire sceene out and starting with he young adult training with the white lotus would be a huge improvement hinestly.
Honestly, I think the show would have benefited a lot from just ditching that first scene with Toddler Korra. It added nothing to the show for her to have been able to use three bending styles at the age of 6, but a LOT of people took her "I'm the avatar, you have to deal with it" line personally. There was no context for people to understand at the time that it was directed at the network rather than the fans. Its kind of a risk that comes with lashing out at the network in frustration as you can't be clear about your snipe without getting into trouble and fans will think that the things the shows says are directed towards them.
I think most people who were upset by that scene weren't upset that she was a girl; they were upset that it sounded like they were being pre-emptively called sexist.
It made it very unpalatable after the ensuing changes to modern media of all kinds that changed or usurped existing characters for the sole reason of doing away with straight, white men (and quality writing as a result of doing that with the writing teams as well).
I really didn't care for Korra's character for the first 2 seasons and even a good part of season 3. The show has a lot of problems but the fights and music are normally excellent. Also Varick is the best character in the show, change my mind. And finally Korra and Asami as a couple makes very little sense, I'm expecting a lot of disagreement but it's a miracle that they're friends with how their relationship started and continued for 2.5 seasons let alone significant others.
"Messing with the spirit's and being a Dick" -Avatar Korra
I'll give this to the clip show episode: Varrick's part of it was a diamond in the rough. His mover pitch was basically a heavily-truncated Abridge-ification of TLoK, and it was GOLD.
I am more interested to see the alignments of Korra villains like Zaheer from season 3
Oh, hmm, that would be a risky move if any individual veiwer strongly agrees or disagrees with their underlying philosophy.
@@agsilverradio2225 from what I can remember of his character I would say chaotic neutral
Yeah... Probably my biggest peeve from the LoK series was the fact that Korra not only didn't respect Mako saying no, she eventually convinced him to dump Asami for her own personal relationship. Then barely 3 episodes into the second season, she dumped him like a hot potato and then pretended it didn't happen when she got her memories back. Then to rub salt in the wound, she turned around and started dating Asami.
Like seriously, I'm all for good LGBQ relationships, but what she did to Mako and Asami was all kinds of fucked up.
You don't convince a guy to dump a girl, then dump the guy to date the girl you convinced him to dump. There is just so much fucked up with that.
(Edit) Finished watching this episode and going to put my steak into this fight. Despite Season 2's complete flop (and the bullshit described above), Korra was a pretty good addition to the Avatar Lore. It certainly doesn't stack up to the original Avatar character development or story imo, but it holds its own. I'm just salty because Korra pulled a dick move dating the girl that she convinced Mako to dump after dumping him.
I used to be pretty bad on the side of hating Korra, but as time passed the hate started to lessen. Now I do not care for Korra, but have nothing against her. I do hate some things they did with the lore within Korra (specifically the Lionturtle and the good & evil spirit things).
Bless your heart, thinking about posting daily content.
The legend of Korra is actually packed with a lot of characters that would be pretty good for this series honestly. Lin, Bolin, Varrick, etc.
In general I was pretty unlucky with the Avatar series. Started with The Last Airbender movie, didn't realize it was an adaptation so I just thought the story was left hanging and only realized my mistake once I stumbled onto a Book 2 episode while zapping. Which I never got to see all the way through because conversations about Avatar only lead to my parents mistaking it for the movie with the same name.
Trust me you’re not the only one who went through that. Had a friend with those same issues
Say what you want about the series, I loved aspects of the first season and pro bending was something I didn't know I needed in my life! Overall, is it as good as the original Avatar? Not to me, but I don't think it was all bad either.
People may be divided on Korra, but no one can argue about the good it did in ensuring that The Last Airbender wouldn't be a "one hit wonder", we never would have had Amon or any of the upcoming Avatar projects, had Korra not happened the way it did, hell, as pointed out, it was influential even outside of it's own series, we may have never gotten the same versions of other shows with LGBT couples, like Steven Universe, Adventure Time, and honestly countless more, even if you're not necessarily a fan of Korra, you're likely a fan of something that Korra influenced, either directly or indirectly, by making these entertainment companies more open to taking risks, albeit small ones.
Whether it lived up to it's potential or not is a matter of debate, but it's undeniably left it's impact on pop culture as a whole with it's risk taking, iconic and memorable characters, and a megaton of internet thirst.
It's impacted not just the Avatar world, but ours as well, and even if you don't like it, you gotta respect it for breaking every boundary people set for it. It takes guts to follow up after something like Last Airbender.
My opinion on the Korra Seasons
Season 1: Fine. Not excellent but not bad. The Equalist plot thread could have been handled better (showing up latter beyond the token non-bender leader for one). But overall a fine season.
Season 2 (first half): Fine. Had potential...
Season 2 (Back half): ...that it did not live up to AT ALL. Terrible ending to a season.
Season 3: A few characters are being idiots (mostly the president of republic city) but overall a very good season with a VERY compelling villain. (so compelling that if he dialed it back from 11 to closer to a 7 or 8 more people might have agreed with him)
Season 4: I love season 4. Parts of the story are messy, I see three reasons for this.
One, network meddling. As mentioned in the video the network did not believe in this project and messed with it in multiple ways.
Two, lack of a plan from the start. Season 1 was a "one-shot" that became a full campaign, they had no idea where they were going. And by the time they did the Network was ready to pull the plug. I believe that these two reasons (meddling and no plan) are responsible for Korra/Asami not being as fleshed out as people would have wanted
Three, and this one is important... Some of the plot threads in season 4 were SUPPOSED to be messy. Disconnecting from friends for 2+ years then meeting them again. Some of the relationships. Korra's entire trauma storyline. None of those things are nice and neat topics, so make it messy.
"Leaves from the vine" dammit you got me crying in 4 words!
Hmmm... Probably chaotic good, with a harsh streak of early chaotic neutral, and some late swings for lawful?
Correct!
Korra is Neutral Good
I loved Korra and still think for all the struggle it had I thought it a good ride. Is it the greatest ever no, but it's pretty amazing for what it had to push through
Damn, you didn't hold back with that intro
Aang was in peace keeper in a world that needed a fighter.
Korra is a fighter in a world that needed a peace keeper
oooooohh! I love that
The one character I actually liked was Amon and they ruined him well okay I liked Tenzin too I probably butchered the names.
How did they ruin Amon for you. Was it the fact he was kind of a hypocrite? On one hand, yeah making it so that Amon was just a bender kind of makes his backround and even abilities less fascinating, but on the other hand he is a villain and often times a villain is meant to be a hypocrite to prove a point, that their logic is flawed. I can see both sides of the argument.
@@R0-83-RT well if he was a none bender extreme he’d still be flawed but something more fascinating he might have a point
@@nickanderson55 huh, so if that wasn't your problem with Amon what was?
@@R0-83-RT no it was my problem sorry for not explaining properly what I’m trying to say is I don’t think the angle of him being a hypocrite is as cool as him being a regular man driving by pure fucking will to end the dominance of benders
@@nickanderson55 ah ok my bad, when you wrote "he'd still be flawed" I thought that was in reference to another flaw with the character's writing, rather than just the general moral concept of an extremists, my bad.
Might as well get started on that Mythic paths chapter... And the new artwork.
I love Korra and in fact she was my first avatar. When I found the series on the nick website I didn't even know the previous series existed. I find that looking at it now I can see how the nick executives tampered and harmed the show. I while still loving it wish it had gotten the chance to be as good as it's predecessor and that nick would have given it a chance. I wonder how it's reception would have been if nick stepped back and let the crew do their thing
I liked Avatar the legend of Korra despite all the hate it got
Damn bro, u a machine because you are spitting fax.
Also hey, nice cock
Oh you sweet summer child. * headpats*
I'd probably consider selfishness a minorly evil attribute. Several of these neutral, and even some of the good, ticks are too selfish.
I think Korra being shit at romance is ok, not as in its an ok or even excusable action, but she's clearly not knowledgeable on how to handle emotions and is a kid. Not a small kid, but young enough I think it's reasonable that she'd be selfish and stupid.
Did that make sense?
No... not really no.
Just remember Asami is best Waifu! Just ask Korra.
Asami: Objection! Korra is
Avatars just can't stay away from those Fire Nation Women. Lol
@@kaimagnus5760
Aang: Excuse you?
@@Mrryn We all saw how he looked at Katara in her Fire Nation disguise. Lol
Honestly, I think the show was pretty okay. I have some issues with it, but these have hardly anything to do with Korra. My problem is with the execution on themes in the different seasons.
Three of the four main antagonists are clearly based on real political ideologies: communism, anarchism and fascism. And I honestly think that that could have been a pretty good idea. But one thing went terribly wrong. The writers didn't seem to understand the ideologies they were trying to portray. And before someone starts complaining: Stories are political, get over it.
Amon with his color scheme and propaganda about equality was clearly meant to symbolize communism. And yes, the main idea that most people have of communism is "taking away money from the wealthy", but that is a very superficial and also false idea of the ideology. But the actual ideology (not necessarily what happens in communist regimes) is more about redistribution and making people use their resources for the common good. And yes, you could have an actual communist villain who doesn't just delete people's bending abilities. How about forcing benders to use their abilities for certain ends (portrayed as the common good)? Or taking bending abilities away from people who uphold the system and giving them to more "worthy" people?
Zaheer was supposedly an anarchist, but the writers portrayed his idea or anarchy as pure violent chaos. And that is not what actual anarchists strive for in any way. Actual anarchism wants to tear down systems of rulership so that no single individual stands above another. It is the strict rejection of hierarchies, not necessarily of laws or rules. Yes, you could have a good anarchist villain who sows the seeds of chaos unwillingly because they use the wrong methods or they underestimate the potential for violence in humans without a governing body to keep them in check. But Zaheer was all about chaos from the very beginning.
Kuvira's strict militarism, iron fist, and other aspects seem to bear a strong similarity to fascism. But just like the first two examples, this is nothing more than a surface level understanding of cliches that have hardly anything to do with the actual ideology. Fascism isn't just "We have a strong military, so let's subdue everyone else". Fascism has very distinct features like an extreme focus on patriotism, anti-intellectualism, othering, indoctrination, and an eternal fight against a paradoxical enemy. Kuvira's actions made the earth empire look fascist at the beginning, but overall it was hardly more than a really badly planned military dictatorship with imperialist tendencies. A good fascist villain would be a populist, not just the guy with the biggest stick who makes everyone bow to him by force.
10:30 No, I agree. Chaotic good.
The first half where she saved the people is definently good.
Intimidating Tarlock was a foolish, but morally jutifyed move, given the cercumstances.
I personally love LOK more then TLA
I'm one of the very few but I am dead set on this
ME TOO!!! Korra is literally my favorite out of the two Avatars
I do love Korra. I really love the show too. As you said, it has NO RIGHT to be what it is with everything that was stacked against it. And yet, it exists, and I love it. Heck, I find myself revisting it more that ATLA, which is just another mark of how much I enjoy it.
I was a Cartoon Network fanatic, so I wasn't all that interested in Nickelodeon, and therefore, I never had much interest in the Avatar shows. I made a friend recently who has eased me into these shows and, as someone who HATES Rey, I LOVE Korra! Her character never felt like it was pushing for some IRL radical political ideal, Korra was Korra, and she kicked some serious ass!
Nah, don't feel bad dude. I actually like Korra too. Show and character. It has its flaws, and I still prefer ATLA over it, but when boiled down it's still pretty good and honestly the impacts it has on the avatar world at large alone are worth its existence. And Korra herself can suck in some episodes, but I mean teenagers.
With intimidating Tarlok I think it's chaotic good. Her motivation is that she sees tarlok as an oppressive force and now that her eyes are open to the evil he's willing to go for political power she feels the need to confront him. However her methods and mindset are weirdly old fashioned. If this was the aang era directly confronting royalty in private while coopereting with the laws publicly would definitely be maintaining peace while still confronting injustice and shes still in this mindset what people will listen BECAUSE shes the Avatar. Which she's wrong about.
In my opinion, Korra is three (or arguably two) different characters. Season 1 Korra is *fine* as an immature teenager high on herself. I didn't really mind her, although she didn't really strike me as interesting. The way season 1 ended is not a fault of character so I can't hold it against her as a character no matter how much I think the last few episodes of that season was a poorly written and directed mess. Whilst I understand the reason for her introductory scene, I also found it to be exceedingly dumb. Which I suppose is par for the course considering the problems behind the scenes.
Season 2 Korra is a character I loathe. Season 2 was an idiot plot and I cannot stand how she acts there. Korra in this season wasn't the same character as she was in the other seasons in my opinion.
Season 3 and 4 Korra are really cool though. Great growth and change leading her to become a great exploration on struggling with and overcoming trauma. She's very different from what we see in seasons 1 and 2, but not entirely unrecognizable.
I love Korra, she begins as such a flawed character. Its like because she was kept secured by the white lotus her whole life, she’s led to believe the avatar is some invincible force for good. She learns of her flaws throughout the series and while sometimes selfishly, chooses to try to do the right thing constantly putting herself in harm’s way despite the fears and learning how vulnerable she truly is,who learns and grows. The writing and plot could have done with better planning, but she was always truly a foil of Aang always diving in headfirst recklessly.
_"Korra had to walk so that others could run."_
The best way to describe the entire series in my honest opinion. B)
Chaotic Stupid...Korra is the definition of a Good guy who makes every single wrong choice and goes berserk at the world for it
28:14 "Messing with the spirit vines, acting like a dick-"
Korra is a good character/show who primarily suffered from a network, jerking the studio jerking the around, none stop. Yes, the writing has problems but, part of that is the constant back and forth on whether the show will continue or end each season
I would love to see to see your perspective and alignment of demon King ANOS VOLDIGOAD from The misfits of the demon King academy
Leaves from the vine🥺
Falling so slow😢
Like fragile tiny shells😖
Drifting in the foam😭
I still want to see an avatar storry where the avatar is born into a crime family or spirited away by an evil entity of some sort and the challenge become how to kill the avatar when negotiations fail.
I suppose you have the avatar see reason after a while but that seems boring to me.
I liked the Legend of Korra season one but I never knew about the other seasons and only just heard about them last year.
Trying to sneak into a public building to use force and intimidation to force a public figure to go along with their personal ideology, fuck what anybody else says, is pretty much the definition of Chaotic Neutral. It also pretty much sums up Kora's character as a whole for most of the series.
Am I the only person who prefers Korra to the original series. Except for season 2.
Like the animation and action is so much better in most of Korra than is most of ATLAB, and there are more episodes I don't want to watch when re-watching ATLAB then ones I don't want to watch when re-watching Korra. I have seen both series in complete like 8 times, with ATLAB getting like 6 re-watches before Korra came out because I was a kid who re-watched everything I liked.
Definitely a minority, but not appalling by any means. I mean childhood memories am I right. Also you definitely still rewatch things that you like especially since you’re on UA-cam
Thank you for talking about how bad that clip show was.
So when are we doing the alignments of Amon and the Red Lotus?
I'd love to see an alignment on Naofumi from Rising of the Shield Hero
He'd be neutral good to chaotic good. He does almost nothing bad and even the morally questionable stuff he does in a way to promote the most good the situation allows. Even when he's being a bit of a dick and putting on a face of greed and antipathy, his actions always lead to him being altruistic.
@@robinthrush9672 Sadly the anime didn't take after Web Novel Naofumi
That man originally bought Raphtalia to abuse her in Place of the princess
The Novel is pretty crazy honestly
@@sirrealgaming6913 That's disturbing to hear. I had heard the princess is actually killed in the book rather than made to be a servant with a slur for a name.
@@robinthrush9672
That's just how unhinged he had to be to actually unlock the cursed series of Wrath
He had the absolute worst intentions for Raphtalia
Every little good thing he did for her he had to justify to himself "She can't be weak if I'm to use her properly" " I can't sleep if she keeps screaming at night" ect
It's actually pretty interesting to read how she heals him over time and how absolutely messed up he became after that initial betrayal
As for the Princess and the King's Trial it's pretty similar all in all she doesn't die for quite awhile after that and by then things hit the fan
but the trial with the name change did happen however the
novel goes more into the Queen's mentality at the time who was willing to execute the king and the princess if that's what it took to appease Naofumi
long story short she was kinda losing it even though they were the responsible for about pretty much everything that was going belly up
The queen still loved them and after executing them she was planning to slushieside shortly after making the second princess queen
The term "Mary Sue" was definitely thrown around back then. The reason why Korra wasn't called one is very simple: she wasn't one.
Mary Sue isn't about the power level. Was Korra OP? As the avatar, yes, definitely. But that doesn't matter. One can be the most powerful character in the setting without being a Mary Sue, or one can be a completely powerless human in a setting with superheroes and still be a Mary Sue. What matters is that she was a flawed character who made plenty of mistakes stemming from her character flaws, and these mistakes had consequences. _This_ is why she wasn't called a Mary Sue.
what I said was that it wasn't thrown around like it is today
Also, I had heard we're getting a 3rd show with a new Earthbender avatar. Wonder what ever happened to that.
Actually breaking people out would be Chaotic good. The people were the subject of the Queen and the treatment was lawful (evil), given that she was a total monarch. And she did not followied her own code (because she does not has one), but instead if its right or wrong. So clearly CG in my eyes.
Correct!
Korra is Neutral Good
Majority of people I know who have a problem with Korra's character don't really care about her gender, disliking the character by her gender alone seems stupid in itself regardless considering Avatars the last airbender had a good balance of both well written and fan favorite male & female characters. The thing I heard most people dislike about Korra is that she's overly stubborn and ungrateful, which can turn people off to the character. It's also why I think season 3 is many people's favorite, it tended to keep Korra's abrasiveness & stubbornness, yet still keeps the character likable throughout the story. It also helps that the love triangle wasn't really focused on in season 3 which I don't recall anyone really being invested in when the show was going on.
Yup. Nothing wrong with Korra's Gender. Its all in the personality and a lack of growth in her character. She ends up almost exactly the same in the last episode as she was in the first.
Love her or hate her, just don't watch her right after having watched AtLA. If you must watch AtLA first, take a break, watch something else, then come back to watch Korra, your enjoyment will be much more if you aren't directly comparing to the masterpiece that preceded her. I made that mistake, with a couple of shows. For instance I loved the first 2 seasons of Jojo, but part 3 with the introduction of stands threw me off. I hated it till I took a break and came back and started watching again from season 3.
Can we get an alignment video on Shulk?
YES YES YES
28:09 funny cut on dictator
I never watched korra so I just had a queshton. why can random "disillusioned water bender" block bending? the only other time we saw that was avataur anng and he needed an anchient creature that I'm pretty sure they were supposed to explain in season 4 to teach him
I like Kora more than Aang, but then again I'm not all about ATLA
In the first 2 seasons i was not a fan of Korra but in season 3 she became my favorite character in the show. Then season 4 made her my favorite character in the series. Her development was honestly amazing her facing and overcoming her trauma in a very believable way. She still had that fire in her but it was focused, she was a little more reserved. She had changed for the better. While the show is messy season 2 being the messiest and worst for me. The writers did care and did their best to make it all flow even with Nick fighting against them. And i think you can see that passion mostly in Korra herself. She beaten down again, and again. But she still rises back up every time, ready to face the world.
Honestly I hated her as a young man because I saw myself and her flaws in myself
VALID! I hate characters that remind me of me
should have gone with the radio announcer for the intro
nah. Anthony, the editor on this one has an amazing JK Simmons impression
I really loved this show and was sad to see how it was and is treated.
I think Legend of Korra suffers from Star Wars Syndrome. When the original is so good no one would dare say anything bad about it, any follow up will get trashed by default. I think if Korra had aired first and The Last Airbrender was a "prequel series" you would hear "SJW Katara, Woke Marry Sue Touph and Aang somehow turn into a giant fish monster to destroy a fleet of ships.".
I guess what I'm trying to say is don't let your love the old, poison that which is new.
Here's to hoping that Raven from Teen Titans is among the Waifu videos planned for this awesome promotional collection.
I'ld say she starts at true neutral, maybe leaning chaotic neutral because of her ego.
(She's didn't care about being a hero at first. She just liked the pristege of being the avatar.)
I also predict that she's gonna get 3 true neutral dings for the time she was out of commition, due to being poisoned.
Her intro certainly didn't help if you first watched the show after seeing other race/gender swapped characters being written badly and being shamed for pointing out that just because they're the protagonist doesn't mean they're good characters or people.
11:05 Yeah, that's a toughy. Definitely chaotic. She kind of wants to do the right thing without thinking, but she's attacking an official who hasn't done anything illegal because he doesn't do things the way she wants them done; which is kind of evil. I might have gone with chaotic neutral here because the intent versus her rationale balance each other out.
16:20 On its own, it's pretty good. The problem is that it's a massive retcon that does away with the Eastern morality of a balance between conflicting elements and replaces it with a Western Good > Evil morality that is undermined by giving lip-service to balance from the "good" spirit, but effectively showing that there's no room for chaos by locking up the "evil" spirit. At least, I _think_ the dark spirit is supposed to be change/chaos, but it's only shown to be destruction and evil.
So, I know LoK gets a lot of backlash, but, tbh, I love the expanded world building and more Avatar information. I didn't like it when I was 9, because it was too complex for me to understand, but I enjoy it now. But I don't like Korra as a person because of how she treats people. What I do like is that she was the first ever Avatar (in terms of revealing) that was bisexual. And I'm glad that they included that because it was hard to get any queer rep in the 2010s.
A lot of people tend to call her a Mary sue, but this simply isn't the case. Mary sues require they be good at everything, barely ever make a wrong move or decision and be this unshakable paragon of good/evil. Korra is anything but. Shes impulsive, selfish to a fault, makes absolutely terrible decisions, isn't the best at any bending except arguably water and gets her ass handed to her CONSTANTLY. Shes a fabulously flawed and HUMAN character. Yes, the shit around her is less than great writing, but the core of the character is despite her massive gaping flaws she tries to do good. She knows shes a colossal fuckup, but is still out there trying. That's not a Mary Sue, it's called growth.
I like Korra! The point of her is that she's supposed to be a bit high on her own farts but that she learns a bit of natural humility and restraint over time then combines that restraint with overcoming some really terrible trauma and growing from that to be respected for her accomplishments and the wisdom of "seeing some crazy shit"
If folks want to say that she's an "Overpowered Mary Sue" (which, hey, I get it, it's not fun to watch such characters), I would say that she does a good job of stepping away from that trope and grows into a relatable and contentious hero for everyone to respect.
Do I like the original series a little better? Sure, but that has very little to do with Korra and more to do with the setting and struggles that the group of kiddos had to deal with as they essentially go on a D&D campaign for three seasons.
Korra's great! Fantastic video!
I may not of liked it as much as the orginial. But that doesnt make it bad. Its just that the issue with nickelodeon and having to due cut in the final session cuts deep. Cuase korra could of had tons more potential. But it was still in a way a solid show.
Zaheer is also voiced by the incarnation of the Buddha himself Henry Rollins best antagonist in the series. Fight me.
It's not that it's bad it's that it's not even close to what I expected from an avatar series
Requesting Glados, Wheatley and Cave Johnson from Portal. Also, Shiroe, Akatsuki and Naotsugu from Log Horizon.
korra is okay, actually my biggest beef with korra's series besides it feeling like they were responding to something rather than creating is that while the whole changing lore thing that seem to start with korra's second season makes it hard. like it doesn't feel like the same world as aang, but rather a parallel world that shared similarities. don't get me wrong i find the whole wan story great and all, but it is changing the lore on the base level. instead of learning from dragons, badgermoles, flying bison and the moon, it is a lion turtle gave me these powers!
I think the avatar world is a true masterpiece they made a real good job with worldbuilding and there is so much to explore, as long as they serch to make something good and not a moneygrab or something like the movie(we dont thanks about that) it will be great
What Alignment is
Dinobot from Beast Wars
Kain and Raziel from The Legacy of Kain series (maybe collab with Strictly Fantasy?)
Silver from Treasure Planet
The Party in The Black Cauldron
Korra is what got me into Avatar. I went back and watched TLA after Season 1. Everything made SO much more sense after that.
My favorite character from TLOK is Korra, and my favorite from TLA is Toph.
This series deserved better than what we got.
Also, the Raava/Vaatu dynamic misses the point of yin and yang.
Just cutting season 2 completely improves the quality of the show immensely.
@niklashg1 true, but I do think there's a few things worth salvaging, although not a ton.
The flashback to the first Avatar is pretty cool overall 😎
@@michaeljebbett160 I mean sure. I just REALLY do not like that season. The Jesus/Satan carpets just goes completely against the idea of balance that was such a big part of the Avatar thing.
Tbh I adored Korra... and there's genuinely good writing in there... I think if Nickelodeon had signed off on 4 seasons from the start, and also weren't so meddling with the show... it might've actually pulled off being close to as good as ATLA... but even as is it's a solid show... and is indirectly responsible for several other great shows getting to be great... I genuinely don't believe we would have gotten 2018's LEGENDARY She-Ra show and it's inclusion of lgbtq+ characters if we didn't have Korra paving the way for that kind of representation being accepted in animated television.
I enjoyed Korra, but Uncle Iroh continues to be my favorite character. She's a fun character that I like watching; she's not perfect, but she's a good character. Despite being awful, Season 2 has some good concepts. If they had employed a more creative idea for the (Dark Avatar) than just "Evil Avatar," it might have been amazing.
this may be extreme, but i would not mind a korra reboot whatsoever. on one hand i see why thatd be bad, it doesnt look good when you backpedal on 4 seasons worth of story. but on the other hand, good looord i hate the damage LoK did to spirit lore, and how absolutely scuffed pro-bending was, and the spirit kites and--
ive said too much
I wouldn't have started her off as chaotic good, I'd accept arguments for true neutral - but I would have placed her at chaotic neutral.
She had no personal code of ethics, she was flippant, she was highly self righteous/egotistical/arrogant, she sought power for self aggrandizing reasons. That screams chaotic neutral to me.
Most of the things you labeled as chaotic good I would have called chaotic neutral. Most of the things you called chaotic neutral I would have called true neutral or chaotic evil. You also skipped over A LOT of her manipulative, petty, callous, and downright sadistic behavior through the show that oscillates between lawful evil and chaotic evil. She constantly manipulates and abuses her friends. She is quick to explosive acts of unprovoked violence. She brazenly acts with no consideration for collateral damage - often deliberately destroying infrastructure for slap-stick humor.
By my score she ends the show firmly evil and riding the line between chaotic and neutral. As for the inevitable claim that she saved the world, therefore she can't be bad - no, bad people can be motivated to do some good things. They can even be motivated to do good things for good reasons and still be bad. This isn't a Bethesda or Bioware game. You can't fix nuking a city by giving a homeless man 20 bottles of water.
I'll admit, that I only watched the show. However four bumps of Lawful Good from the epilogue comic would still leave her just over the line of neutral evil. Again see aforementioned manipulation, abuse, usurping peaceful order, sociopathy, sadistic tendencies, rancorous destruction, and generally being horrible and petty to everyone to amuse herself.
Ngl the whole Avatar One Good vs Evil spirits breaks the world for me. In Aang spirits were not good or evil, they had different morality. They didn't get corrupted by satan kite... That's the main issue I have with worldbuilding
Season one of Korra is good, but they could have spent less time on the love triangle. Season two of Korra has some pacing issues, starts slow, and spends far too much time on the love triangle that should have been done away with in season one.
Seasons three and four of Korra are better than Last Airbender. They just are.
Amon, Tarrlok, Zaheer and Kuvira are better written and thought out villains than Zuko's sister and dad. Across the board, the use of real world political factions and ideologies forming the motivations and designs of Korra villains makes for better story telling than "Vader with daddy issues" and "Palpatine but voiced by Mark Hamill" that typified the bad guys in Last Airbender. Sure, shamelessly copying Star Wars lead to Dave Filoni being hand picked by George Lucas to helm Clone Wars and by Disney to helm Star Wars TV, but if "Evil Empire is Evil" is your definition of peak fiction you have serious problems.
As for the backup dancers, Naga the polar bear-dog is way more fun on screen and useful in combat than Appa ever was. Naga's fight scenes and occasional jump scares are fantastic. Lin Beifong, and Tenzin have better character arcs than Iroh. And yeah, Mako is a pain in the ass that sucks the fun out of all his undeserved screen time, but Boilin and Varrick more than make up for that.
As for love interests... Asami is just a better all around character than Katara. At best Katara answered the question "What if Princess Leia was less sassy and spent most of her screen time moping about her dead mom?" I'll take Asami being the crew's getaway driver, heist planner, and tech expert any day.
Which is the better story?
A girl from a poor village finds and wakes up the chosen one, and is then whisked away on a globe spanning adventure to save the world from the evil empire.
She has nothing to lose, so why not take a chance.
Or...
A girl is born into unimaginable wealth and privilege. She loses her mother, but still grows up to be the obvious for inheritor of her father's empire. Then she bumps into the chosen one who picks fights with her and accuses her father of war crimes. She's completely surprised when her father actually turns out to be evil, captures the chosen one and her crew, then offers his daughter all the wealth and power imaginable in the new world order. All she has to do is let his minions kill the good guys. To everyone's surprise, without a moment's hesitation the daughter saves the good guys and sacrifices all the wealth and power she was born into.
She gives up everything because it's the right thing to do.
Last Airbender tells a simple story about children going on a road trip to fight the evil empire.
Legend of Korra tells a more complicated story about young adults being forced to face real world issues, real world politics, and suffer through the consequences of their actions.