Injectors Anatomy: botox depth around the face
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- The depth of the needle can have a significant impact on results. Today we are examining where it is important to inject deeply around the face.
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Daniel Julien, NP
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It says it is sold out for beginner injectors. I would really enjoy your Patreon.
Hello Dan. I love your chanel but I am neither a nurse nor doctor but will like to become an injector. What do you advise I do?
I await your response. Thank you.
I like the way you teach. Simple and precise.
Thanks! More to come soon.
@@danestheticsmedical Great video...what length is concidered deep?
Best aesthetic channel on UA-cam
Agreed
Yes you had my heart at “please be nice to everyone”❤
I'm doing my own injections, I like to hear all of the different preferences and techniques from all of you here in social media land❣️ thank you for sharing 😬
Clear unambiguous video. 💉💞 I'm doing diy! Yes I know ! 🤔 but I am a nurse and doing lots of research prior to taking the plunge. Many thanks . South Wales UK. Take care .
Fantastic. Love your adorably friendly demeanor with concise, well-explained techniques. 5 stars, Dan!
Wow, I can't believe how much I just learned in a few minutes. I will definitely carry these tips with me going forward! I was hoping to hear about what depth you use around the eyes for crow's feet as there can be varying amounts of skin/fat/muscle in those areas
You're a great instructor! I worked in derm and not everyone was as good as you are. Subscribed!
Thanks!
Wow, just came across your channel. Have been injecting for 6 years. This is a great explanation/ demonstration. Excellent , thank you so much Dan
Pankaj Thakrar my pleasure. 🙏🏼
Beautiful explanation. I’m in beauty school here in the UK bt I love recaps . Ty so much
Thanks, I'm currently a nursing student interested in aesthetics. We don't get taught aesthetics so your channel is very helpful :)
Can you do a video on the forehead, from the eyebrows up please & where they should be injecting vs the danger zones are not to inject.
Idk why but there are times I get eyelid droop, and I know I dont want the spock brow either. I have vertical lines. This way I can actually WATCH them and know.
Love your videos.
Jacqueline Laguna 👋🏼 that was one of my first videos posted! Unfortunately Canada is pretty strict about advertising any prescription products, so I had to take it down.
Danger zones address artery locations.
Here are my tips: Make sure injections are 1.5-2cm above the eyebrows. Place a few units at the tail of each eyebrow and inject the corrugators to keep the eyebrows from dropping. Place one unit at each temple to prevent Spock Brow. Your injector should also follow the arch of the eyebrows to prevent them from flattening.
Foreheads are one of the most difficult areas to treat properly with botox! I take my time to ensure I have it right.
Hope this helps.
@@danestheticsmedical❤
it just amazes me how western doctors don't mind sharing their knowledge with everyone online, doctors in my country wouldn't even consider sharing their "secrets" if you don't pay them enough for it and even then they won't tell you everything you wanna learn.
thank you so much doctor I'll definitely be a loyal subscriber!
Straight to the point! Excellent teaching!! Thank you!!
Hi Dan, another fantastic video I have learnt so much from you. I am still studying so not qualified yet but one question I can't seem to get an answer for is how deep is considered deep when injecting? Is the 8mm mark or very close to? I understand it may be different for everyone but on an average in patients under 40 what would it be? Also if it's not to much trouble to ask what sensation can you feel while injecting that indicates you are in the muscle? I have been told that you will feel some resistance while inserting the syringe then once that stops and it easily moves through the layers that is an indication that you are in the muscles. Is that correct in your experience? Thank you so much I can't wait to hear your response.
If you hit bone, you can't go any deeper.
Hi Dan, so when you say deep injections you’re pushing the 8mm needle into the muscle all the way? Thank you!
Pretty much. Pinch the muscle first though.
Thank you very much! I keep getting mixed messages about the corrugators injection from different demonstrators but now I know the reason why it should be deeper injections.
Amazing. Exercise and be nice to everyone. Love how concise these videos are.
Thanks Kesse!
Exercise is fairly self-explanatory. “Nice” however is subjective. Oftentimes, I’m being nice when I tell people facts, but people don’t think I’m nice when they receive the facts. 🤔
Thank you! Your videos are so informative and Sarah is an awesome assistant
Monica Vater Haha! Thanks, I’ll be sure to let her know :) Let me know if there are any other topics that you would like to know more about.
All the best!
Dan
Danesthetics would like to see videos on PDO threads, PRF versus PRP and injections of PRF/PRP
Monica Vater I would love to do a video on PDO threads but Canada hasn’t approved them yet. I haven’t personally worked with PRF, but when I do, I’ll be sure to make a video.
Thanks for the requests!
Dan
Not really. He never once mentioned the actual depth of this "botox depth" video. LOL
Amazing ! The eye opening moment about injecting deep into corrugators! Now I know where I did couple mistakes. Thank you SO MUCH!
Terrific!
Hi Dan,
I'm Jamil(plastic surgeon) from Lebanon, I watched most of your videos and it's all educational,and its for pro, this is among the best learning videos I have ever seen , you and Mauricio de maio are the top, I hope that you visit lebanon one day, best wishes to you, and keep on walking.
Sorry I missed this. Thanks 🙏🏼
Thanks Alot, waiting for more videos about the depth for Filler because it's really crucial 👍👍😘
Great video. So clear. I would be interested in a review of threads. Very popular but some doctors claim when the threads dissolve they produce unhealthy collagen which makes the tissue rigid.
What Dr said that?
I read they can cause scar tissue. would be nice to get an honest review on them... the doctors pushing to do them don't always talk about the negatives
I was told by a nurse practitioner Not to get threads...and I listened to her☺️
Wow, best explanation ever. Thanks sooo much
Addicted to your videos
Question, superficial, you meant the depth around,,?
Thanks! I mean the depth of the needle.
Hope this helps.
Dan
@@danestheticsmedical thanks for the answers
I meant, how many millimeters depth?
I would like clarification as well on how many mm is superficial. I would say prolly half of what u r using so 4mm or the 8mm or 5/16 inch needle we use. Also is 8mm sufficiently deep for everywhere else?(except the massetor as u stated you would change the needle. Maybe go with 12.7 mm or 1/2 inch here(for massetor only)? Let me know what you think doc!
@@Lily-iw5kn Great question , but they don't want to give us a straight answer. Please let me know if you find anyone who give u that information. Thanks!
i think so...for massater 12,7 mm long needle @@devin7703
when you say deep on the eyebrows - you mean you should go all down with the insulin needle ? and when superficial just insert half it? thank you! you are the best!
also how superficial should we go on the forehead ? 5mm? 4?
@@hnia0 2mm to 3mm forehead...6 to 8mm corrigator and procerius...i know i spelled that wrong lol
@@hotmessbeauty220 thank you so much! Also I subscribe to you ❤️🤗☺️😘
@@hnia0 Thank you
Thank you! I thought DAO was superficial, but I guess it's only deep in the specific points you just demonstrated.
Straight to the point, awesome videos , thank you
Hi..I draw a line straight from NL fold & then 1 cm medial to it I place superficial inj in DAO
Hi Dan, thanks for sharing! I took Botox advanced course and they didn’t observe so detailed as you. Thanks again Doc!
Fantastic explanation of the of lisence treatment. I never had such a clear lesson! Well done
Great info. How deep for the depressor septi?
You're my absolute new favourite! I've learned so much from your vidios. 👍👍
Elizabeth Ashe Thank you. Happy you’re enjoying the content 😊
All the best!
Dan
Bonsoir doctor, je suis résident en chirurgie maxillo facial, à Tunis, je suis de nationalité mauritanien, est ce que je peut voir une traduction en français, votre vidéo sur les injection s de botox est très intéressant pour moi, merci
Best explanation ever! Thank you
You teach very well doctor. Thank you
Thank you very much for making this video ..I’m doing all my research at mo to start injecting Botox ..I do my own threads so I thought why not my Botox saves me going every 3 months to get it done ...I know now where to go deep so a very big ty
Can we mix Botox with saline water for injection 0,9 and not bacteriostatic or it's the same?THANKS A LOT
I agree, I really, really like the way you teach! Thank you! You are also easy to look at :)
HI Doctor 🙋♀️
What about the *dilator naris posterior*
( nostril flare area)
Whats the depth & should we use a smaller lenth needle or normal insulin sized one?
Thanks
Love your videos. U seems really concerned to teach. Grt job. Keep it up
Short and productive, you have my sub. Thank you.
You are the best teacher👍👍👍
Hi Dan, when injecting deeply do you mean the entire length the needle? Thank you!
Thanks a lot. Amazing teacher. Brilliant. Looking forward to seeing you more to learn from you
So the only area that you would recommend longer than 8mm say maybe half inch 12mm is massetor ? For others mentioned( glabella corrugator dao and mentalis ) it’s safe to say 8mm would get u deep enough to not disperse into muscle on top?
Yes!
Hello Dan! 9 days ago i toxed my frontalis, crows feet, glabella and DAOs. Lines are gone on the frontalis are frozen and crows feet are not showing! The glabella line is gone. But the DAOs. I injected deep. 8mm went straight in. But nothing! I see no change. My mouth have a little down turn that I wanted to fix. 4 units each side. Can you help me please! Your input on what you think I may have done wrong. And I love you! You are my go to when I need to solve a problem are before doing anything! I watch your videos 1st! Very informative! ❤️🙏🏽
Great video. What is 'deep' in terms of mm?
6-8mm
You are so helpful and a very cool down to earth guy. Thanks for the pointers!
Best video ever thanks
Loved this.
thanx for the knowledge.
Doing a great job!
Thanks!
Amazing video as always, what about the Botox around the nose to lift the tip up and make the nostrils slimmer 🙏
2 units per each nostril & 5 units under the spine of the nose
Wow, thank you..I've never had botox before. I was thinking of doing it, but there's so much you can get wrong. That's a bit scary for a beginner.
Is there anything that happens to the bands if put to shallow or maybe not the right spot? It’s deep there ?
This was so interesting and informative. Thank you so much.
Hi .. thank you so much for your videos, really interesting.. but may i know what is the best tips injection for gummy smile?i ever had inject in this area and not good for the result. Thank you .
Amazing, good expansion of deep and how etc.. can u explain how to d around the eyes that don’t drop down of incorrect injections, thank you
What an informative video! I heard that part of the other muscle goes underneath the DAO, so that if the needle goes deep it can hit the wrong muscle. Is that incorrect? I heard the same about the neck band muscles. That there's a muscle below the bands and if hit, can effect swallowing. Is this wrong?
Lita Burns Great questions!
1. The DLI does slide under the DAO, but mostly along the insertion point (along the jawline). Which is another reason why the 1cm over then 1cm down is a great way to keep me above the DLI.
2. Pinching the bands ensures that I’m injecting in the correct area. As we know, however, neuromodulators tend to spread up to 1-1.5cm and may come in contact with muscles involved with swallowing. For that reason, I always advise my clients of this potential side effect.
Great points.
All the best.
Dan.
Such helpful information! Do you also pinch the DAO, Procerus, Corrugator, and Mentalis when going deep? In other words, is it a general rule of thumb to pinch anytime you inject deeply? Thanks again for the great video!
I always pinch when going deep.
Hey doc amazing info. Can you do a video on thread lifts
Thanks. Unfortunately Thread lifts aren’t yet approved in Canada. I’ll be sure to post when I know more.
Hi dear dr, I'm Alireza Firoozi Gp from Iran , l like your explanations🙏❤
I really love the way you teach! I wish you were in the UK so I could get a training session!
Thanks!
Me encanta este señor , pena q tenga q poner el mal traductor de Google para saber q dice, pero sus técnicas me gusta .Gracias,
I love your videos so much.
Could you please let me know, if will it be fine to inject Botox in the chin if the client has dermal filler in their chin?
Thanks 😊
Brilliant video .. may I ask doc what is the purpose off a Botox injection in the chin please just curious ..
Many thanks
God bless 🙏
Hi Dan. im amazed by your honest, generous and informative videos. Quick question....units wise: how much each injection in platisma bands with what distance in between of them? Also in 11s for the good results and the rest of the spots you mentioned in this particular video. Thsnks again.
New subscriber here! So useful and easily explained! Thank you for your professional advice! 👍
Thank you so much for your videos! New subscriber here. I have two quick questions when you say superficial does that mean it’s just a pinch below the surface? Last question, if you go too deep on the superficial injections, would that cause any adverse effects?
I wish when you suggested deep that you would say at what angle or direction eg : up down or away which angle to point syringe?
Amazing video!! Thankyou so much! ☺️ From UK 🇬🇧
Thank you for all the informative videos, can small Botox injections around eyes cause blindness? Or is it safe to do under the eyes & around crows feet ?
You won’t go blind but it can cause other temporary complications if it’s too close.
So helpful, thank you!
Hi Dan, Can you speak to how the frontalis should be treated with toxin after a browlift? Can the brow still experience a drop post procedure?
Love the way you explain everything
Excellent presentation and message!!
Nice informative video! Quick and to the point ! Thank you!
Hi Dan. Thanks so much for this so informative video.
When you say deep you mean push the 8mm tip all the way in? Then on the jaw clinching maester muscle you switch to a longer needle and go all the way in? Thx
Yes and yes!
Thanks this was awesome information so helpful!
Hi! I hope you will answer: what would you consider to be “deep” for the procerus and corrugator: ~6mm?? And what would be considered a good superficial depth for the frontalis? ~4mm?? Thank you!
For the frontalis 1-2mm
The frontalis, you should see a mosquito like lump form on the skin. That’s how superficial. The corrugators pinch and go 8mm deep
@@clboymom9467 does it matter if you inject the frontalis superficially or all the way through?
Great Videos, Thank you very much for the content !
Just starting my aesthetic Journey as a PA!
Thanks for the concisw but very useful information! 😊
Love the way you teach.
Great info!Keep up the good work!"Be nice to everyone!"-Canadian to the core :-)
Great instructional video! Thanks
HI Dan. How many units do I inject into the DAOs, mentalis and platysmas bands?
Your videos are very informative and educational. Thank you.
Is superficial usually like half the 8mm depth!?
Some others say shallow on the DOAs or you will cause a asymmetrical smile?? I have always done shallow and had good results!
Love the way you teach!
Please do a video on Profilo?
Thanks🙏🏽
Love the way you explain and your personality
Super cool! Super fast and informative, thanks!
What can be done about under eye wrinkles? I don't mean crow's feet along the side, but instead wrinkles inside more right above the cheek? When I smile that area scrunches up and looks wrinkled.
Emily Davis 👋🏼 this is one of those difficult areas to treat. It can be done but it’s high maintenance.
Option 1. If you have good skin integrity under the eyes, you can apply 1 unit of botox here. You can also treat place a few units of botox at the side of the upper nose.
2. Micro dosing of botox using an aquagold stamper can be good, but it will likely last only a month.
3. Some people place PRP in this region, but it will only last a couple weeks.
Hope this helps!
@@danestheticsmedical When you say botox under the eyes, do you mean they'll inject the jelly roll, or the area where the wrinkles actually are?
Could u comment on the approximate depth for lateral corrugator injection point since it should be injected more superficially to avoid the frontalis that lies under it laterally, correct ?
Subdermal! You should see the colour of the needle. Sorry I missed this :(
@@danestheticsmedical
no problem at all !
Thank u for taking the time to answer me
Your videos are the best
Thanks for creating them
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Thanks for sharing this video. I really learn a lot. About the procerus muscle, it actually runs over the frontalis muscle, so why inject deep? Same question applies to the DAO, which runs over the DLI. I think only if you inject on the origin of the procerus or DAO, then it makes sense to inject deep. Or maybe it’s better to stay superficial for procerus and DAO ???
are you saying that he got it backwards?
Hello there. I was watching your videos and wondering with the insulin needle used for the DAO's. Does it make a difference if you use a 50 or 100 u needle? I know to only inject like 2-3 units. But in terms of needle size. Will that make a difference when drawing up the units. Thank you. Wish you had more videos. 😊
Love the way you teach!
Best informative video i watched so far, Thank you. just subscribed
What type of needle would you use for the masseter :)? Is 12mm more appropriate?
Yes!
Great video !!
How many mm do u mean for deep and superficial?
Deep laround 4mm?
Superficial around 2mm?
Deep is full needle. About 6-8mm. Yes for superficial
Thank u for your response
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wow ... great video ... I Have just done my facial Harmonization filler course ... so foung your video great too ..
Love it!
Hi Dan. With the insulin needles they tend to come in 8mm and 11mm. Which do you tend to use? Thanks :)