My name is Timothy Enos; which translates to “Mortal Man; Beware of False Prophets” OR “Beware of False Prophets; One that walks with God” I was born into Aquarius which is Manakel and Gabriel. For those of you who unpack this, it’s the embodiment of The Knowledge of Good and Evil combined with the Messenger of God. How powerful that is, for having been born into a Methodist/Catholic split family. I am drawn to you and your videos naturally sir, you are on the right path as a teacher and advisor. I look forward to the lessons ahead as I grow vicariously through you. I have the gift of sight, my path is laid out. I am to follow it now.
@@AssyrianFury I understand you’re trolling me. Tracking. I’m just sharing what I thought were cool coincidences that I found in my spiritual journey. Names in all texts tend to hold meanings to unpack.
If you have the gift of sight i will challenge you right now lol. Im serious though, if you see you will know some very substantial things happened to me personally. Which i will not name. If you decide to be truthful and say you do not know then i will tell you here for everyone to see. But i do sense something with you that relates to a problem i have and that is ego. How i sensed it is simple, by how you adressed yourself here publically. No offense, if you want to have ego death im pretty sure you are on the opposite path by your presented behavior and like i said i have that issue too.
Such an interesting topic!! First time hearing some of the views on Jesus' life you gave. I'm glad to see you're feeling better and kudos por the Pantera mention 🤘
Proverbs 1:6 - "Wisdom is to understand a proverb and the interpretation; the words of the Wise and their dark sayings." Matthew 16:12 - "Then understand they how that he bade them not beware the leaven of bread but, the 'doctrine' of the Pharisees (literalists) and of the Sadducees (legalists)." Galatians 4:24 - "Which things are an allegory." The Bread of Wisdom/Life and the Wine of Understanding. The only true authority is the Authority of Truth.
Hi ! I've watched you for some time and you have awesome knowledge :) Your demonstrations are very inspirating. Im Necromancer and started Ceremonial Magic but this you are tealing about Enochian Magic started interesting me to also try this path:)
Skeptical about the virgin birth story, are you? My friend, my brother, you have been summoning demon spirits from realms unknown, and you have so little faith in the virgin birth? Why can't God, The One Who Designed the Universe and Orchestrator of Spirits, also produce the virgin birth from the breath of His mouth?
Umm, maybe because the early, authentic, and unedited gospel provides historical evidence that it was most likely not the case. If you don't agree with it, please question the gospel or your church, and not me, it wasn't me.
@@AssyrianFury I have had the same question. There must be something with the interpretation. I can say that no other name holds more power, magically or otherwise. When I came to know Jesus and truly believed, I was totally transformed. "Reborn" as is says in the scriptures. That happened to me. 100%
@@TMap7 actually there’s nothing wrong with the interpretation as the reason for that is bc his followers did not writing anything down. They were believing he was coming back very soon so hence they spread it by word-of-mouth and then after decades and decades, they say that they wrote it down we’re talking 70 to 100 years later and they put the apostles names on it even though they were well dead by the time it was written also the person who wrote most of the Bible never met Jesus that person’s name is Paul. Also, there is no evidence for any miracles outside of the Bible actually there’s very little evidence of Jesus at all outside of the Bible except for like one sentence here and there by Tacitus and Flavius Josephus which many believed to be a forgery. Very little evidence to put all your belief in because the prophecies have not come to pass making Jesus a false profit. Also, I would like to inform you that many people believe that Jesus is a allegory to the sun. For instance, the sun has 12 followers. They’re called the zodiacs. It looks like a long tail. It also wears a crown of thorns and if you look at the waves in the ocean in the sun’s out there, it looks like little steps up upon the waves hence walking on water. the sun can turn water after it, hits the ground and grows the crop through the Sunlight creating wine. The sun was born of virgin. The sun is the light of the world, and literally the sun is burning out hence dying for us. The sun also hangs on the southern crux during the winter solstice where it doesn’t move for three days and then starts moving the day growing longer afterwards meaning it’s dies and is reborn after three days. when Jesus dies on the cross at the moment he dies there’s an eclipse, and the sun is blotted out. Unfortunately, you’re raised as a Christian just like me my grandfather was an eastern orthodox priest after many years of studying looking at historical evidence setting my faith aside using critical thought it was obvious that this is a false religion. I hope you can deprogram and wake up to the reality
@@AssyrianFury I understand and respect your perspective. Actually I was not raised in the church. The exact opposite. My parents were far from spiritual in any way. My grandmother prayed with me as a child but that's it. At 18 I came to know Christ on my own. I'm telling you, what happened to me was a miracle bro... All the best.
I remember watching one of your videos somewhere in which you seem to say that you believe in the Christ. Yet you are clearly a practitioner of the magical arts. Can I beg you to make a video discussing the inner debate you had to reconcile your belief in Jesus and being a magician at the same time? I feel a strong pull to what is referred to as "high magic". But as a result of my interpretation of the bible in regards to such things, I fear it may send me to the lake of fire. Please make a video discussing how one might find compatibility between practicing magic and the warnings against it which seem to be clear in the bible.
I consider myself a progressive Christian. I believe that Jesus most definitely existed and most definitely had a clear connection to the divine that most of us can only dream of. However, I am uncertain whether or not he was God incarnate (I don't rule that out, but I'm not entirely convinced either). I believe that when we earnestly reach out to the divine, the divine will meet us where we are, that is the only way it can be. We are so far removed from being able to genuinely understand the reality of the divine that if they didn't reach out to meet us where we are, we would stand no chance of any relationship. That means that any endeavor to genuinely understand and have a genuine relationship with the divine will be rewarded (not necessarily in material terms, but certainly spiritually). Realistically, if a 'god' is so insecure that they need us pathetic humans to worship them, and are narcissistic enough to punish us eternally because we decide against the predominant human interpretation of god, which is full of holes in terms of the mythology, that's not a 'god' worthy of my devotion. Remember anything you are taught about what the bible says is just an interpretation. That interpretation has been manipulated for political ends for centuries. If someone is insisting on a literal interpretation of the bible, ask them if they worship the goddesses of Christianity because if the don't they are not taking the bible literally. The first reference to the divine in the original Hebrew is feminine and plural! If they try to argue that, that's the old testament, remind them that in Matthew Jesus quite clearly states that he's not here to replace the law, that the laws must be followed, and then emphasizes that that he takes it to the next degree stating any man who looks at another woman is an adulterous he doesn't need to act on it as required in the old testament (and in Leviticus an adulterer is equal in sin to someone wearing mixed fiber clothing or a man getting intimate with another man). Here's the thing the bible was never meant to be interpreted literally. Historically, people understood the stories to portray a spiritual truth not a literal truth. Jesus himself taught in parables for this exact reasoning he knew that people of the time understood this to be true. Lets look at two examples, the example of the garden of Eden, you can take it literally. That a narcissistic father tried to keep the truth from his children and when they learned the truth he threw them out of paradise and refused to have any direct contact with them (original sin isn't actually mentioned in the bible, but this is what it's based on). Not a god I'm interested in giving my time too. On the other hand we can consider it a spiritual truth. A child is completely innocent and doesn't understand the difference between good and bad. As they grow they learn the difference and they realize their parents are not infallible , and they find that challenging and that loss of innocence is painful, (ask anyone who was ever a teenager) and they can never unknow what they know so they can never go back to that state of innocence no matter how appealing it may be, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing. They can grow to understand and chose the correct path, which they were not capable of as a child. Alternatively, as we grow in or religious beliefs we originally don't question our beliefs we are innocent but limited in or devotion, but as we experience the world we come to question what we were taught. The questioning is painful, the parting is difficult, it was easier to just have bind faith, but once that is eliminated there is not going back. That is painful, if again feels like we've been thrown out of Eden but there is no going back. However, having questioned and come to an understanding of the divine, when we return in what ever form that takes it's a more mature, considered, nuanced understanding and that is a good thing (although not for the church which is about control and not genuine relationship with the divine). Remember, when God found Adam and Eve having eaten from the Tree of knowledge and ashamed by their nudity he didn't chastise them, he, in a caring way, provided them with the means to cover themselves. He didn't undo what had been done, he didn't take way their mistake, he could have done he was God, instead he allowed them their new understanding and help them adjust to their new reality. Attempting to take the story literally, loses much of the meaning and spiritual truth that the story was originally meant to convey. Eating from the tree of knowledge is something we all did as we grew up, it was painful and removed us from our state of innocence, but ultimately it is a good thing it gives us the opportunity to choose to be a good person rather than an ignorant albeit innocent person. Lets take another example, the sacrifice of Jesus on the Cross for our sins. Do we really want to believe that a god insists his son suffer a horrendous death as a sacrifice before he can forgive our sins. Even most humans are more companionate that that, is that really a god you want to believe in. However, perhaps the divine understands us better than we understand ourselves. They didn't send Jesus to die for our sins because they couldn't forgive us without that, perhaps they sent Jesus to to die for our sins because they understood that we couldn't accept their freely given love without such a sacrifice as we're not very good at forgiving others and worse at forgiving ourselves. Alternatively, perhaps Jesus was put to death because he challenged the orthodoxy of the time, Rome and all it stood for (bearing in mind Rome never went away as a ruling power it simply became the Catholic church!), perhaps the divine raised him from the dead as a way of sticking two fingers up to Rome and saying, this guy here, he got it right, you got it wrong, listen up. If magic helps you achieve a deeper relationship to the divine then that's a good thing. If you can't accept that as true then sit down with your divine, pray and listen to what they have to teach you rather than listen to what the people who want to control you have to say about what they think the bible has to say. If you're not yet ready for magic, that's fine, perhaps listen to alternative view points from other Christian groups who are less dogmatic in their view. A decent starting place is Grace Pointe Church on UA-cam. I don't agree with all of their political views, but their take on the Bible is certainly worth a consideration and is routed in the context the bible was written in. Good luck and God Bless.
This is entirely my interpretation but I would say stay away from magic entirely and just stick with prayer if you define that as high magic which im assumeing you dont since you mentioned "magic" not prayer. Think of it like this, God is the ONLY creator. And when you look at the story of adam and eve think of the tree as holding knowledge of God. If we were made in the image of God that does not directly mean we are God; to me this would make no sense because we are born into the world knowing nothing. Now hold onto that thought about us knowing "nothing" at birth in this physical world, a idea just popped in my mind as i wrote that lol. Think of God as creation, truth, life, love, happiness, order, humbleness. Think of the devil as destruction, lies, death, hate, sadness, disorder, pride. With these defining attributes in mind about god and the devil think of us knowing nothing at birth. To define love hate must exist and vis versa (im not talking about buddhism so keep reading lol). To define order disorder must exist.(you should get it, im not going to list every defining attribute). When we know nothing at birth think of everything. Which makes no sense right? Until you add the context of God being infinite. Now nothing and everything have entirely different definitions. If you were to KNOW the infinite what does that make the infinite mean? That would make it finite right. Genesis 2:16-17 and as you see here it says when you eat from the tree of knowledge surely you will die. So i interpet this as if you attempt to be God expect to destroy his order because there is nothing humble about wanting to be God when he allready exists and has allready laid out everything including you existing in the first place. So this is the reason i say stay away from all magic no matter how it is branded. Why would you need to evoke anything when you can just call on God to help you? I also disagree with any idea of "worthiness" as the occult says. Who can judge someone or self judge themself as worthy? No one but God can do this as everything in life is subject to his WILL. It would make entirely no sense for him to create us and not give all of us a choice to follow him. I find it very untrue that one must draw sigils or chant something in order to connect with God when he is allready here. What i see as true is aligning with his plan which is the point of the holy spirit that guides us in that direction. So i will advise you to call on that to guide you but do not expect things to happen instantaneously. Sometimes it may be instantaneous but other times it may take years which i think differs between other people. I dont have all the answers for you but i have been helped by God directly several times in my life in which i personally felt i never deserved. Thats how loving he is and i want you to know that. If my writing above is all over the place i appologise in advance im tired and im writing this to you before i go to bed lol.
I agree that the Gospels have Jesus saying that observing the Torah is important. This is Matthew 5:18 and Luke 16:17. I disagree that observing the Torah is a sensible thing to do. It is inconsistent with being a kind and loving person. UA-cam deletes comments that clearly describe these problematic Torah passages. There are well known Old Testament sexual morality rules with draconian punishments. Separate from that, ceremonial magicians will have problems with Deuteronomy 17:2-5 and Deuteronomy 18:10 and Exodus 23:13. The Torah both forbids things you do and compels Torah-observant people to do violence to you because you do them.
Pantera was named after a car. The De Tomaso Pantera to be exact and they later realized that it meant panther is spanish. The started with the name "Gemini" and "Eternity" but a high school friend suggest the name Pantera because it was the name of a Badass Car. According to an interview with the Drummer
There’s a lawyer on here who swears that Paul is basically a false teacher. “Jesus Words Only” this guy is the most detail-oriented researcher I’ve ever seen lol I myself have always had problems reconciling Jesus and Paul…
The flesh and blood thing is something that many protestant denominations would say that its either a spiritual representation or that its completely symbolic, I haven't read the book yet, but it seems like a lot of speculation and not based on history. As a Christian and an initiate into hermeticism i would say a lot of the sacraments where put into place for the same reason magicians do rituals
The problem with Tabor is that he does not believe any of the stuff he Teaches! Just history to him, not mystical, not things the mind really has trouble grasping. Which brings me to another mystical point. If the Shroud of Turin is studied in depth and properly, there are many items on the Shroud that contradict many of the “Great Scholars” of today.
I grew up Christian, now an atheist, very interesting to hear this perspective. You worked with the Goetia, do you think this confirms God/Christianity? If Demons are real, than maybe Christianity isn't false after all? Enjoying your videos! thanks
Egregore is the term you are looking for and that would be theory not fact. We have zero grounding to prove any concept outside of the material plane. Of course the astral plane can be proved by personal experience but for defining a entity we have nothing but theory. It is theory with substance to it i will give you that. @@AssyrianFury
But if you can prove it as fact i will kindly ask you to educate me because i am highly interested. I have a open mind and have no problem being wrong if i am.
I will warn you i like to debate but i mean no harm. Me debating is my attempt to dive deeper into understanding a concept. Sometimes a debate helps both parties uncover details that are underlooked.
The story of Christ illuminated in the gospels was an ancient template applied to all 'world saviors' incarnating on our planet. It was a spiritual law, from my understanding, that all 'messiah's' were obligated to conform to this scenario. They were all 'born of a virgin in a cave, carried divine significance, defied unjust authority, had '12 disciples', performed miracles of a nature that only one with divine power could, died on a tree, rose three days later. Many say this story was 7,000 years old, echoed in sixteen 'crucified' saviors' lives. I do not know how close each messiah figure followed this template, just that this was the 'form' laid out on a physical level. People believe this to be a real story, but there is some evidence for it being merely symbolic. Why this template was followed, and what the particular significance was would be a perfect subject for a book. "The World's Sixteen Crucified Saviors" by Kersey Graves describes many of the world saviors' lives and actions.
There are certain ideas that appear in other stories. Common themes and story threads. Of all of it. Jesus is still the son of the only supreme being. If you are following this channel you likely realize there is a whole complicated spiritual realm full of malevolent beings. Not many of those other characters match up to this. Additionally. The world is quickly rushing to fulfill most of the remaining prophecies in the Bible. None of those other stories have this level of detail or prophetic alignment.
@@jackfrost2978 You seem completely unaware or unfamiliar with the many accounts of 'god-kings' who've come in the past. There's a bigger narrative that you are then also unaware of. "There are certain ideas that appear in other stories" You've made a statement proving this, as you would've discovered that the story of "Jesus" is an old ancient one, told centuries previously.
@@davidm1149 The Bible tells us that God has been very patient with various beings and generations rampaging across the earth. Sabatoging and defiling his creation. This is all coming to an end. The earth is currently rushing to fulfill most of the remaining prophecies in the Bible. Many of which are oriented around the "end time".
@@jackfrost2978 The "god" of the OT is "YHWH", who Jesus referred to as being a "king of demons". Take a closer look at the passages, events, and interactions in the OT. You may not see this without someone showing you. "The Lost Tribes From Outer Space" by Marc DeM does a fantastic job of highlighting this. Paul Wallis and Mauro Biglino also. If you're not an indoctrinated fanatical literalist you may stand a chance still. May as well try it.
The doctrine I believe is that Mary was a virgin when she gave birth to Jesus and after Mary and Joseph lost their virginity when they got married and had more children.
That depends on which Christian tradition. Potentially even which priest within a given tradition. The tradition (Anglican, Church in Wales) I grew up within , and the vicar I had growing up agreed with your interpretation, but I have encountered others who insisted she remained a virgin.
"And the Lord said to me: This gate shall be shut, it shall not be opened, and no man shall pass through it: because the Lord the God of Israel hath entered in by it, and it shall be shut" - Ezekiel 44:2 (DRA)
@@serenitygoodwyn I mean it is obvious, Yahweh is a jealous god, he wants everything exclusive to him, particularly those that are consecrated or come into physical contact with him, like the gate in Ezekiel 44:2 and the Ark of the Covenant which caused the death of its guardian who accidentally touched it while trying to prevent its fall. In the Gospel of Luke, the author's accounts of the Annunciation and Visitation are constructed using eight points of literary parallelism to compare Mary to the Ark. Yahweh's incarnation within Mary is the most intimate of all his contact with the physical world. Unless you do not believe Jesus is God Incarnate, then fine. There's also a passage in the Bible where Mary questioned Gabriel how is it possible that she will get pregnant when she "knows no man" despite the fact that she is already betrothed to Joseph, implying that the marriage will not be consumated anyway. This isn't about virgin is better than non-virgin so Mary has to be virgin. Its just common sense. I'm talking about biblical/religious/theological/mythological Mary btw, historical Jesus and Mary is another story.
@@chrysocolapteserythrocepha5915 That's your interpretation or a single paragraph taken out of context of the whole book, of a translation of a translation of a text that wasn't an original and even the original wasn't written down until much later in the theology! I mean, if you want to take the bible literally I really hope you are worshiping the gods and goddesses of Christianity because in the earliest surviving text of various books of the old testament the Divine is referred to as feminine, plural and sometimes even feminine plural! So if you're not worshiping the gods and goddesses you're interpreting or accepting someone else interpretation of the bible.
How can we believe Crowley could use a spell to be invisible, Solomon captured spirits in a vessel, but there can be no virgin birth because of biology? (It vexes me how we accept magick on one hand but deny the supernatural on the other.)
What part of the law did you misunderstand practicing any form of magic either working with demons or angels ...ive casted out enough devils to know if your practicing magic of any sort your under familiar spirits so you aren't qualified to even teach about Jesus in any fashion
Read the Zohar-Simply put Jesus desired to be executed as a Sacrifice for the People of Israel. He wanted to die. That sounds odd to our society today but that was a far different culture. The Zohar says that a Messiah can be a sacrifice for the people. The Sanhedrin even agreed to this instead of incurring the wrath of Rome.
Read Zohar Bemidbar 218a…. You will see what Jesus thought of Himself and why the Sanhedrin who saw the actual signs he did which really made them think he actually was the Messiah, that they agreed to Sacrifice Jesus for the safety of Israel. And to avoid the Romans destroying everything because a man was proclaiming to be a King and had such a huge following. That was a major threat to Rome.
@@jackfrost2978exactly! Also if you see a man raised from the dead and he is walking on water making bread and fish and wine. Why did they run when the Roman’s arrested him? Makes no sense. It’s bullshit.
what about the report of pilatus to ceasar about the resurrection. also made up? he wrote that it was wild, even more than in the bible. he wasnt even a christian
I like you but Jesus for so many reasons is not the way. Firstly the only historical evidence is that he was crucified. Tacitus. The gospels do not stand up to critical scrutiny. And over 2000 years later he never returned. I was raised Christian too. It’s hard wired into us but historically the only thing we know is that he existed. His own prophecies have failed. It’s an inconvenient truth. All the best. 🙏🏼
Perhaps look again at what Jesus had to teach, but taking a less literal view. When you insist on taking what he had to say literally, much of the message that he was teaching is lost. Remember, that historically the people of the era that the bible was wrote didn't take such stories literally, they understood them to represent spiritual truths not literal truths. Jesus himself taught in parables for this very reason. Jesus may or may not have been God incarnate but he certainly was more in touch with the divine than most of us will ever hope to be, much like other highly venerated spiritual teachers throughout history. Don't 'throw the baby out with the bath water', just because much of what we were taught in Sunday school makes no sense, doesn't mean that Jesus doesn't have much to teach us if we are willing to take a fresh look with an open mind.
i check in on James periodically. Out of curiosity. Never have i found him someone who is trustworthy. Intriguing ideas and concepts. So fun to look into. Yet completely untrustworthy in every idea i have checked into. i don't see how virgin birth is hard to believe. When you are willing to talk about entities outside of our reality. The Jewish practice of a younger brother marrying an old brothers widow. As far as i have found. Only happens when she has not male heir. Mary already had Jesus. Only 6 minutes in and already this is not even interesting to watch. At least James is interesting. i have to be more diligent to catch his errors. Everyone hates Jesus and his message. Just ask those demons. Yet the world is in the process of rapidly lining up to complete most of the remaining prophecies of the Bible. Especially those oriented around the "end time". A very bad time to be trying to discredit Jesus. Ask yourself. Why is it so important to believe the Bible is false. When the world is rush to fulfill its prophecies?
@@serenitygoodwyn I don’t hate Jesus I actually like the message. I just use facts not feelings. I intellectually broke out of programming aka indoctrination (be-lie-f) by doing research and logic
@@AssyrianFury There are multiple uses for the word generation. Since Israel became a nation again. All the shortest definitions have been ruled out. We are now looking at the medium at long definitions. In that time. Many prophetic events that have been prophesied for the "end time". Have been aligning. This rate of alignment has been increasing at an exponential rate. What seemed like time was short 40 years ago seemed laughable distant compared to what we see today. Iran, once a major friend of Israel. Is one of their greatest enemies. Turkey who is a member of NATO. Which has historically supported Israel. Is now looking at attacking Israel. Russia is ever increasingly tied to these countries. Western countries are increasingly abandoning Israel. Setting up for a massive scale attack on it. The Euphrates River is drying up. Which will clear the way for a massive army from the east. Israel for now will continue to beat up on all its surrounding neighbors who have had only evil in their hearts concerning Israel. The Jewish people are getting ready to rebuild their temple. Even though the majority are currently atheists. As the endure hardships. They will increasingly seek God. At some point the temple will be desecrated. And a person will declare himself greater than all that is God. He will get struck down and rise again without the use of his right eye and arm. Then he will give his allegiance to Satan. Who will come pretending to be our savior. The mark of the beast keeps people from buying and selling if they don't have the mark. The world leaders are trying to set up a one world government and one world currency. All this and more has been foretold. The world is rushing to achieve it. As the world continues to crush and abandon the light of Jesus. It becomes ever darker. Very soon this world will get its wish and Satan will be unleashed upon it, for a very short period of time. It is easy to think of oneself as wise, in our ignorance. The more we know. The clearer things become. Time is short.
You need to read the church fathers to understand the early church Scepticism is healthy but it only goes so far. You seem to have a limited understanding of God, that the Virgin birth, which the old testament prophesied about and the new testament attests to, is beyound His power. I would think after dabbling in the demonic and rejecting it, you would be less prideful and more teachable and not so judgemental about the faith you bought up in
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Praying for you friend! ❤
My name is Timothy Enos; which translates to “Mortal Man; Beware of False Prophets” OR “Beware of False Prophets; One that walks with God”
I was born into Aquarius which is Manakel and Gabriel. For those of you who unpack this, it’s the embodiment of The Knowledge of Good and Evil combined with the Messenger of God.
How powerful that is, for having been born into a Methodist/Catholic split family.
I am drawn to you and your videos naturally sir, you are on the right path as a teacher and advisor. I look forward to the lessons ahead as I grow vicariously through you. I have the gift of sight, my path is laid out. I am to follow it now.
@@EnostheChimp92 ego
@@AssyrianFury We all have that. It’s very human. One day I hope to experience Ego death so I can awaken and experience the next best thing
@@EnostheChimp92 some more than others 😉
@@AssyrianFury I understand you’re trolling me. Tracking. I’m just sharing what I thought were cool coincidences that I found in my spiritual journey. Names in all texts tend to hold meanings to unpack.
If you have the gift of sight i will challenge you right now lol.
Im serious though, if you see you will know some very substantial things happened to me personally. Which i will not name.
If you decide to be truthful and say you do not know then i will tell you here for everyone to see. But i do sense something with you that relates to a problem i have and that is ego. How i sensed it is simple, by how you adressed yourself here publically. No offense, if you want to have ego death im pretty sure you are on the opposite path by your presented behavior and like i said i have that issue too.
Love the Pantera reference! Eloquent and informative talk on a complex subject. Thank you for this!
Came here for Jesus, stayed for Dimebag😂
Such an interesting topic!! First time hearing some of the views on Jesus' life you gave.
I'm glad to see you're feeling better and kudos por the Pantera mention 🤘
Awesome video! Stellar quality as always
Autism, own it. Your memory recall is off the charts mate and it is amazing to witness.
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Jesus himself said that he would rise again.
Proverbs 1:6 - "Wisdom is to understand a proverb and the interpretation; the words of the Wise and their dark sayings."
Matthew 16:12 - "Then understand they how that he bade them not beware the leaven of bread but, the 'doctrine' of the Pharisees (literalists) and of the Sadducees (legalists)."
Galatians 4:24 - "Which things are an allegory."
The Bread of Wisdom/Life and the Wine of Understanding.
The only true authority is the Authority of Truth.
Hi ! I've watched you for some time and you have awesome knowledge :) Your demonstrations are very inspirating. Im Necromancer and started Ceremonial Magic but this you are tealing about Enochian Magic started interesting me to also try this path:)
Skeptical about the virgin birth story, are you? My friend, my brother, you have been summoning demon spirits from realms unknown, and you have so little faith in the virgin birth? Why can't God, The One Who Designed the Universe and Orchestrator of Spirits, also produce the virgin birth from the breath of His mouth?
Umm, maybe because the early, authentic, and unedited gospel provides historical evidence that it was most likely not the case. If you don't agree with it, please question the gospel or your church, and not me, it wasn't me.
Can you explain why Jesus told his followers that he would return before This generation had passed speaking to his followers?
@@AssyrianFury I have had the same question. There must be something with the interpretation. I can say that no other name holds more power, magically or otherwise. When I came to know Jesus and truly believed, I was totally transformed. "Reborn" as is says in the scriptures. That happened to me. 100%
@@TMap7 actually there’s nothing wrong with the interpretation as the reason for that is bc his followers did not writing anything down. They were believing he was coming back very soon so hence they spread it by word-of-mouth and then after decades and decades, they say that they wrote it down we’re talking 70 to 100 years later and they put the apostles names on it even though they were well dead by the time it was written also the person who wrote most of the Bible never met Jesus that person’s name is Paul. Also, there is no evidence for any miracles outside of the Bible actually there’s very little evidence of Jesus at all outside of the Bible except for like one sentence here and there by Tacitus and Flavius Josephus which many believed to be a forgery. Very little evidence to put all your belief in because the prophecies have not come to pass making Jesus a false profit. Also, I would like to inform you that many people believe that Jesus is a allegory to the sun. For instance, the sun has 12 followers. They’re called the zodiacs. It looks like a long tail. It also wears a crown of thorns and if you look at the waves in the ocean in the sun’s out there, it looks like little steps up upon the waves hence walking on water. the sun can turn water after it, hits the ground and grows the crop through the Sunlight creating wine. The sun was born of virgin. The sun is the light of the world, and literally the sun is burning out hence dying for us. The sun also hangs on the southern crux during the winter solstice where it doesn’t move for three days and then starts moving the day growing longer afterwards meaning it’s dies and is reborn after three days. when Jesus dies on the cross at the moment he dies there’s an eclipse, and the sun is blotted out. Unfortunately, you’re raised as a Christian just like me my grandfather was an eastern orthodox priest after many years of studying looking at historical evidence setting my faith aside using critical thought it was obvious that this is a false religion. I hope you can deprogram and wake up to the reality
@@AssyrianFury I understand and respect your perspective. Actually I was not raised in the church. The exact opposite. My parents were far from spiritual in any way. My grandmother prayed with me as a child but that's it. At 18 I came to know Christ on my own. I'm telling you, what happened to me was a miracle bro... All the best.
If you haven't already, I would check out Margaret Barker's work (especially with your recently discovered background!)
I remember watching one of your videos somewhere in which you seem to say that you believe in the Christ. Yet you are clearly a practitioner of the magical arts. Can I beg you to make a video discussing the inner debate you had to reconcile your belief in Jesus and being a magician at the same time? I feel a strong pull to what is referred to as "high magic". But as a result of my interpretation of the bible in regards to such things, I fear it may send me to the lake of fire. Please make a video discussing how one might find compatibility between practicing magic and the warnings against it which seem to be clear in the bible.
I consider myself a progressive Christian. I believe that Jesus most definitely existed and most definitely had a clear connection to the divine that most of us can only dream of. However, I am uncertain whether or not he was God incarnate (I don't rule that out, but I'm not entirely convinced either). I believe that when we earnestly reach out to the divine, the divine will meet us where we are, that is the only way it can be. We are so far removed from being able to genuinely understand the reality of the divine that if they didn't reach out to meet us where we are, we would stand no chance of any relationship. That means that any endeavor to genuinely understand and have a genuine relationship with the divine will be rewarded (not necessarily in material terms, but certainly spiritually). Realistically, if a 'god' is so insecure that they need us pathetic humans to worship them, and are narcissistic enough to punish us eternally because we decide against the predominant human interpretation of god, which is full of holes in terms of the mythology, that's not a 'god' worthy of my devotion.
Remember anything you are taught about what the bible says is just an interpretation. That interpretation has been manipulated for political ends for centuries. If someone is insisting on a literal interpretation of the bible, ask them if they worship the goddesses of Christianity because if the don't they are not taking the bible literally. The first reference to the divine in the original Hebrew is feminine and plural! If they try to argue that, that's the old testament, remind them that in Matthew Jesus quite clearly states that he's not here to replace the law, that the laws must be followed, and then emphasizes that that he takes it to the next degree stating any man who looks at another woman is an adulterous he doesn't need to act on it as required in the old testament (and in Leviticus an adulterer is equal in sin to someone wearing mixed fiber clothing or a man getting intimate with another man).
Here's the thing the bible was never meant to be interpreted literally. Historically, people understood the stories to portray a spiritual truth not a literal truth. Jesus himself taught in parables for this exact reasoning he knew that people of the time understood this to be true.
Lets look at two examples, the example of the garden of Eden, you can take it literally. That a narcissistic father tried to keep the truth from his children and when they learned the truth he threw them out of paradise and refused to have any direct contact with them (original sin isn't actually mentioned in the bible, but this is what it's based on). Not a god I'm interested in giving my time too. On the other hand we can consider it a spiritual truth. A child is completely innocent and doesn't understand the difference between good and bad. As they grow they learn the difference and they realize their parents are not infallible , and they find that challenging and that loss of innocence is painful, (ask anyone who was ever a teenager) and they can never unknow what they know so they can never go back to that state of innocence no matter how appealing it may be, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing. They can grow to understand and chose the correct path, which they were not capable of as a child. Alternatively, as we grow in or religious beliefs we originally don't question our beliefs we are innocent but limited in or devotion, but as we experience the world we come to question what we were taught. The questioning is painful, the parting is difficult, it was easier to just have bind faith, but once that is eliminated there is not going back. That is painful, if again feels like we've been thrown out of Eden but there is no going back. However, having questioned and come to an understanding of the divine, when we return in what ever form that takes it's a more mature, considered, nuanced understanding and that is a good thing (although not for the church which is about control and not genuine relationship with the divine). Remember, when God found Adam and Eve having eaten from the Tree of knowledge and ashamed by their nudity he didn't chastise them, he, in a caring way, provided them with the means to cover themselves. He didn't undo what had been done, he didn't take way their mistake, he could have done he was God, instead he allowed them their new understanding and help them adjust to their new reality. Attempting to take the story literally, loses much of the meaning and spiritual truth that the story was originally meant to convey. Eating from the tree of knowledge is something we all did as we grew up, it was painful and removed us from our state of innocence, but ultimately it is a good thing it gives us the opportunity to choose to be a good person rather than an ignorant albeit innocent person.
Lets take another example, the sacrifice of Jesus on the Cross for our sins. Do we really want to believe that a god insists his son suffer a horrendous death as a sacrifice before he can forgive our sins. Even most humans are more companionate that that, is that really a god you want to believe in. However, perhaps the divine understands us better than we understand ourselves. They didn't send Jesus to die for our sins because they couldn't forgive us without that, perhaps they sent Jesus to to die for our sins because they understood that we couldn't accept their freely given love without such a sacrifice as we're not very good at forgiving others and worse at forgiving ourselves. Alternatively, perhaps Jesus was put to death because he challenged the orthodoxy of the time, Rome and all it stood for (bearing in mind Rome never went away as a ruling power it simply became the Catholic church!), perhaps the divine raised him from the dead as a way of sticking two fingers up to Rome and saying, this guy here, he got it right, you got it wrong, listen up.
If magic helps you achieve a deeper relationship to the divine then that's a good thing. If you can't accept that as true then sit down with your divine, pray and listen to what they have to teach you rather than listen to what the people who want to control you have to say about what they think the bible has to say. If you're not yet ready for magic, that's fine, perhaps listen to alternative view points from other Christian groups who are less dogmatic in their view. A decent starting place is Grace Pointe Church on UA-cam. I don't agree with all of their political views, but their take on the Bible is certainly worth a consideration and is routed in the context the bible was written in.
Good luck and God Bless.
@@serenitygoodwyn Thank you for the thoughtful response. God bless you as well.
This is entirely my interpretation but I would say stay away from magic entirely and just stick with prayer if you define that as high magic which im assumeing you dont since you mentioned "magic" not prayer.
Think of it like this, God is the ONLY creator. And when you look at the story of adam and eve think of the tree as holding knowledge of God. If we were made in the image of God that does not directly mean we are God; to me this would make no sense because we are born into the world knowing nothing. Now hold onto that thought about us knowing "nothing" at birth in this physical world, a idea just popped in my mind as i wrote that lol.
Think of God as creation, truth, life, love, happiness, order, humbleness.
Think of the devil as destruction, lies, death, hate, sadness, disorder, pride.
With these defining attributes in mind about god and the devil think of us knowing nothing at birth. To define love hate must exist and vis versa (im not talking about buddhism so keep reading lol). To define order disorder must exist.(you should get it, im not going to list every defining attribute).
When we know nothing at birth think of everything. Which makes no sense right? Until you add the context of God being infinite. Now nothing and everything have entirely different definitions. If you were to KNOW the infinite what does that make the infinite mean? That would make it finite right.
Genesis 2:16-17 and as you see here it says when you eat from the tree of knowledge surely you will die.
So i interpet this as if you attempt to be God expect to destroy his order because there is nothing humble about wanting to be God when he allready exists and has allready laid out everything including you existing in the first place.
So this is the reason i say stay away from all magic no matter how it is branded. Why would you need to evoke anything when you can just call on God to help you? I also disagree with any idea of "worthiness" as the occult says. Who can judge someone or self judge themself as worthy? No one but God can do this as everything in life is subject to his WILL. It would make entirely no sense for him to create us and not give all of us a choice to follow him.
I find it very untrue that one must draw sigils or chant something in order to connect with God when he is allready here. What i see as true is aligning with his plan which is the point of the holy spirit that guides us in that direction. So i will advise you to call on that to guide you but do not expect things to happen instantaneously. Sometimes it may be instantaneous but other times it may take years which i think differs between other people. I dont have all the answers for you but i have been helped by God directly several times in my life in which i personally felt i never deserved. Thats how loving he is and i want you to know that.
If my writing above is all over the place i appologise in advance im tired and im writing this to you before i go to bed lol.
I agree that the Gospels have Jesus saying that observing the Torah is important. This is Matthew 5:18 and Luke 16:17.
I disagree that observing the Torah is a sensible thing to do. It is inconsistent with being a kind and loving person. UA-cam deletes comments that clearly describe these problematic Torah passages. There are well known Old Testament sexual morality rules with draconian punishments. Separate from that, ceremonial magicians will have problems with Deuteronomy 17:2-5 and Deuteronomy 18:10 and Exodus 23:13. The Torah both forbids things you do and compels Torah-observant people to do violence to you because you do them.
I think the only thing in you life right now you need is Jesus and God word
Speak for yourself.
Pantera was named after a car. The De Tomaso Pantera to be exact and they later realized that it meant panther is spanish. The started with the name "Gemini" and "Eternity" but a high school friend suggest the name Pantera because it was the name of a Badass Car. According to an interview with the Drummer
There’s a lawyer on here who swears that Paul is basically a false teacher. “Jesus Words Only” this guy is the most detail-oriented researcher I’ve ever seen lol
I myself have always had problems reconciling Jesus and Paul…
Yup
The flesh and blood thing is something that many protestant denominations would say that its either a spiritual representation or that its completely symbolic,
I haven't read the book yet, but it seems like a lot of speculation and not based on history.
As a Christian and an initiate into hermeticism i would say a lot of the sacraments where put into place for the same reason magicians do rituals
The problem with Tabor is that he does not believe any of the stuff he Teaches! Just history to him, not mystical, not things the mind really has trouble grasping. Which brings me to another mystical point. If the Shroud of Turin is studied in depth and properly, there are many items on the Shroud that contradict many of the “Great Scholars” of today.
I grew up Christian, now an atheist, very interesting to hear this perspective. You worked with the Goetia, do you think this confirms God/Christianity? If Demons are real, than maybe Christianity isn't false after all? Enjoying your videos! thanks
@@frisco9936 they are thought forms in the ethereal. Peoples beliefs create forms in the astral realm.
Egregore is the term you are looking for and that would be theory not fact. We have zero grounding to prove any concept outside of the material plane. Of course the astral plane can be proved by personal experience but for defining a entity we have nothing but theory. It is theory with substance to it i will give you that. @@AssyrianFury
But if you can prove it as fact i will kindly ask you to educate me because i am highly interested. I have a open mind and have no problem being wrong if i am.
I will warn you i like to debate but i mean no harm. Me debating is my attempt to dive deeper into understanding a concept. Sometimes a debate helps both parties uncover details that are underlooked.
Tabor is full of shit. His own colleague Bart Ehrman thinks his theory they found Jesus tomb is nuts
Fantastic video Frater.. I would love to hear your thoughts and how theosophy fits or how this fits with theosophy.
Many thanks
What an interesting topic 🙂
Thank you for creating your channel ❤️
What do you think about the story of Lilith?
the truth is that jesus said that a cat will be the new messiah, and when it jumps from a tree at midnight, you should praise the moon
Thanks❤.
The story of Christ illuminated in the gospels was an ancient template applied to all 'world saviors' incarnating on our planet. It was a spiritual law, from my understanding, that all 'messiah's' were obligated to conform to this scenario. They were all 'born of a virgin in a cave, carried divine significance, defied unjust authority, had '12 disciples', performed miracles of a nature that only one with divine power could, died on a tree, rose three days later. Many say this story was 7,000 years old, echoed in sixteen 'crucified' saviors' lives. I do not know how close each messiah figure followed this template, just that this was the 'form' laid out on a physical level. People believe this to be a real story, but there is some evidence for it being merely symbolic. Why this template was followed, and what the particular significance was would be a perfect subject for a book. "The World's Sixteen Crucified Saviors" by Kersey Graves describes many of the world saviors' lives and actions.
Which are the other ones?
There are certain ideas that appear in other stories. Common themes and story threads. Of all of it. Jesus is still the son of the only supreme being. If you are following this channel you likely realize there is a whole complicated spiritual realm full of malevolent beings. Not many of those other characters match up to this. Additionally. The world is quickly rushing to fulfill most of the remaining prophecies in the Bible. None of those other stories have this level of detail or prophetic alignment.
@@jackfrost2978 You seem completely unaware or unfamiliar with the many accounts of 'god-kings' who've come in the past. There's a bigger narrative that you are then also unaware of. "There are certain ideas that appear in other stories" You've made a statement proving this, as you would've discovered that the story of "Jesus" is an old ancient one, told centuries previously.
@@davidm1149 The Bible tells us that God has been very patient with various beings and generations rampaging across the earth. Sabatoging and defiling his creation. This is all coming to an end. The earth is currently rushing to fulfill most of the remaining prophecies in the Bible. Many of which are oriented around the "end time".
@@jackfrost2978 The "god" of the OT is "YHWH", who Jesus referred to as being a "king of demons". Take a closer look at the passages, events, and interactions in the OT. You may not see this without someone showing you. "The Lost Tribes From Outer Space" by Marc DeM does a fantastic job of highlighting this. Paul Wallis and Mauro Biglino also. If you're not an indoctrinated fanatical literalist you may stand a chance still. May as well try it.
i know a guy from david blood line he has a video on yt if somebody wants a link i will share.they did unspeakable things to him
Don't accept this on face value. Read the Gospels - explore further.
That is exactly what he is doing, because most of us are either too lazy or prefer to live in ignorance.
The doctrine I believe is that Mary was a virgin when she gave birth to Jesus and after Mary and Joseph lost their virginity when they got married and had more children.
That depends on which Christian tradition. Potentially even which priest within a given tradition. The tradition (Anglican, Church in Wales) I grew up within , and the vicar I had growing up agreed with your interpretation, but I have encountered others who insisted she remained a virgin.
"And the Lord said to me: This gate shall be shut, it shall not be opened, and no man shall pass through it: because the Lord the God of Israel hath entered in by it, and it shall be shut"
- Ezekiel 44:2 (DRA)
@@chrysocolapteserythrocepha5915 Quoting random passages out of context is always meaningless!
@@serenitygoodwyn I mean it is obvious, Yahweh is a jealous god, he wants everything exclusive to him, particularly those that are consecrated or come into physical contact with him, like the gate in Ezekiel 44:2 and the Ark of the Covenant which caused the death of its guardian who accidentally touched it while trying to prevent its fall. In the Gospel of Luke, the author's accounts of the Annunciation and Visitation are constructed using eight points of literary parallelism to compare Mary to the Ark. Yahweh's incarnation within Mary is the most intimate of all his contact with the physical world. Unless you do not believe Jesus is God Incarnate, then fine. There's also a passage in the Bible where Mary questioned Gabriel how is it possible that she will get pregnant when she "knows no man" despite the fact that she is already betrothed to Joseph, implying that the marriage will not be consumated anyway. This isn't about virgin is better than non-virgin so Mary has to be virgin. Its just common sense. I'm talking about biblical/religious/theological/mythological Mary btw, historical Jesus and Mary is another story.
@@chrysocolapteserythrocepha5915 That's your interpretation or a single paragraph taken out of context of the whole book, of a translation of a translation of a text that wasn't an original and even the original wasn't written down until much later in the theology!
I mean, if you want to take the bible literally I really hope you are worshiping the gods and goddesses of Christianity because in the earliest surviving text of various books of the old testament the Divine is referred to as feminine, plural and sometimes even feminine plural! So if you're not worshiping the gods and goddesses you're interpreting or accepting someone else interpretation of the bible.
How can we believe Crowley could use a spell to be invisible, Solomon captured spirits in a vessel, but there can be no virgin birth because of biology? (It vexes me how we accept magick on one hand but deny the supernatural on the other.)
The real son of Pantera of Rome was Brian of Nazareth. Or "Bwian" according to Caesar.
What part of the law did you misunderstand practicing any form of magic either working with demons or angels ...ive casted out enough devils to know if your practicing magic of any sort your under familiar spirits so you aren't qualified to even teach about Jesus in any fashion
Its an interesting theory. But is it true?
Read the Zohar-Simply put Jesus desired to be executed as a Sacrifice for the People of Israel. He wanted to die. That sounds odd to our society today but that was a far different culture. The Zohar says that a Messiah can be a sacrifice for the people. The Sanhedrin even agreed to this instead of incurring the wrath of Rome.
Read Zohar Bemidbar 218a…. You will see what Jesus thought of Himself and why the Sanhedrin who saw the actual signs he did which really made them think he actually was the Messiah, that they agreed to Sacrifice Jesus for the safety of Israel. And to avoid the Romans destroying everything because a man was proclaiming to be a King and had such a huge following. That was a major threat to Rome.
If you see his miracles and think he is the messiah. You don't worry about romans. God superior, romans inferior.
@@jackfrost2978exactly! Also if you see a man raised from the dead and he is walking on water making bread and fish and wine. Why did they run when the Roman’s arrested him? Makes no sense. It’s bullshit.
what about the report of pilatus to ceasar about the resurrection. also made up? he wrote that it was wild, even more than in the bible. he wasnt even a christian
So Jesus did t do any miracles?😢 And as a Catholic I still don’t get that he is God and Gods son this makes zero sense!!!
@@kittykat9825 demi god.
Whats your opinion on Jesus coming to free us from Yahweh, who is actualy an evil being and not truely God?
There was no word for "cousin."
just more 'proof' of the valour of reaching beyond layers & finding truths, meaningful or even beyond meaningful for us . . .
Lots of picking and choosing of the textual evidence there Frater! lol.
Enter into Orthodoxy for answers.
I like you but Jesus for so many reasons is not the way. Firstly the only historical evidence is that he was crucified. Tacitus. The gospels do not stand up to critical scrutiny. And over 2000 years later he never returned. I was raised Christian too. It’s hard wired into us but historically the only thing we know is that he existed. His own prophecies have failed. It’s an inconvenient truth. All the best. 🙏🏼
Perhaps look again at what Jesus had to teach, but taking a less literal view. When you insist on taking what he had to say literally, much of the message that he was teaching is lost. Remember, that historically the people of the era that the bible was wrote didn't take such stories literally, they understood them to represent spiritual truths not literal truths. Jesus himself taught in parables for this very reason. Jesus may or may not have been God incarnate but he certainly was more in touch with the divine than most of us will ever hope to be, much like other highly venerated spiritual teachers throughout history. Don't 'throw the baby out with the bath water', just because much of what we were taught in Sunday school makes no sense, doesn't mean that Jesus doesn't have much to teach us if we are willing to take a fresh look with an open mind.
@@serenitygoodwyn I agree with that. I think what you’re saying is although myths are not true there is truth in myths.
i check in on James periodically. Out of curiosity. Never have i found him someone who is trustworthy. Intriguing ideas and concepts. So fun to look into. Yet completely untrustworthy in every idea i have checked into.
i don't see how virgin birth is hard to believe. When you are willing to talk about entities outside of our reality.
The Jewish practice of a younger brother marrying an old brothers widow. As far as i have found. Only happens when she has not male heir. Mary already had Jesus.
Only 6 minutes in and already this is not even interesting to watch. At least James is interesting. i have to be more diligent to catch his errors.
Everyone hates Jesus and his message. Just ask those demons. Yet the world is in the process of rapidly lining up to complete most of the remaining prophecies of the Bible. Especially those oriented around the "end time". A very bad time to be trying to discredit Jesus.
Ask yourself. Why is it so important to believe the Bible is false. When the world is rush to fulfill its prophecies?
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It's not Jesus or his message they hate, it's generally his preachy followers who insist on misinterpreting his message that they hate.
@@serenitygoodwyn I don’t hate Jesus I actually like the message. I just use facts not feelings. I intellectually broke out of programming aka indoctrination (be-lie-f) by doing research and logic
@@jackfrost2978 how bout the prophecy Jesus gave of his return before the generation had passed? Is Jesus a false prophet?
@@AssyrianFury There are multiple uses for the word generation. Since Israel became a nation again. All the shortest definitions have been ruled out. We are now looking at the medium at long definitions. In that time. Many prophetic events that have been prophesied for the "end time". Have been aligning. This rate of alignment has been increasing at an exponential rate. What seemed like time was short 40 years ago seemed laughable distant compared to what we see today. Iran, once a major friend of Israel. Is one of their greatest enemies. Turkey who is a member of NATO. Which has historically supported Israel. Is now looking at attacking Israel. Russia is ever increasingly tied to these countries. Western countries are increasingly abandoning Israel. Setting up for a massive scale attack on it. The Euphrates River is drying up. Which will clear the way for a massive army from the east. Israel for now will continue to beat up on all its surrounding neighbors who have had only evil in their hearts concerning Israel. The Jewish people are getting ready to rebuild their temple. Even though the majority are currently atheists. As the endure hardships. They will increasingly seek God. At some point the temple will be desecrated. And a person will declare himself greater than all that is God. He will get struck down and rise again without the use of his right eye and arm. Then he will give his allegiance to Satan. Who will come pretending to be our savior. The mark of the beast keeps people from buying and selling if they don't have the mark. The world leaders are trying to set up a one world government and one world currency. All this and more has been foretold. The world is rushing to achieve it.
As the world continues to crush and abandon the light of Jesus. It becomes ever darker. Very soon this world will get its wish and Satan will be unleashed upon it, for a very short period of time.
It is easy to think of oneself as wise, in our ignorance. The more we know. The clearer things become. Time is short.
You need to read the church fathers to understand the early church
Scepticism is healthy but it only goes so far.
You seem to have a limited understanding of God, that the Virgin birth, which the old testament prophesied about and the new testament attests to, is beyound His power.
I would think after dabbling in the demonic and rejecting it, you would be less prideful and more teachable and not so judgemental about the faith you bought up in
Frater...what the hell is that?
Means brother iirc
Good content but please work on your delivery. Putting me to sleep..
Look in the original Greek sources. Much was translated incorrectly. You will be surprised who this jesus really was.