Lol nice humour but these guys get sent a different stock, not the regular production stock. It's a batch made for and dedicated to be sent to these youtubers only. So technically he doesn't have 50% of the entire 3090 stock or 3080.
for rendering I would personally take a 3090 despite the price doubling, the RAM bottleneck of 10gig of the 3080 will force me to spend a lot extra time optimising my scenes ( currently using x2 1080ti 11Gig) , the extra 14 Gigs is going to be a total game changer for me, it's my main reason for buying, mine arrives today! so pumped!
If you're a serious channel, it takes time. GN got only now 1mln subs, and Steve started in 2009. Otherwise you do just "look I'm eating kebab for 1 week", and you got 1mln after 1 year. YT is a strange place..
@@simoSLJ89 Just watched some of the first videos of Gamers Nexus. Steve looked so cute there haha. Also kind of sad that he created his channel in the same year as I did but I never really tried to grow haha
@@NOV3LIST Yeah I didn't follow any channel back then, but I watched some early GN videos recently. His case reviews made in the his bedroom were still the best around! :D
Also remember he caters to a niche market, and all of his content is within a small variance. He does not really cover too much other than sff and liquid coolers and cases mostly.
To this day I am still satisfied with my 3080, I bought it 2 months after launch, and have had it since. The performance at 1440p is extraordinary, and even at 4K in some titles. I probably won't upgrade until the 50xx series is being released.
Dont even bro. Mine came in yesterday. MSI gaming x trio 3080. Blue screen of death when trying to install drivers. Took it to the store and they had same issue with it so it was defective. Refunded and ordered evga 3080 xc3 ultra but im also back in queue for order to arrive. 😂
@@FuncleChuck slower than 2080 ti, maybe in older games, not newer games. going forward the 3070 will only get faster, 2080 ti won't, nvidia will have full focus on tweaking and optimizing ampere.
I don't know about you. But the thing that hyped me in the first few seconds of this videos wasn't the RTX 3090... but the RTX 3080 FE in the background, SFF testing coming guys !
Did I seriously heard "Planning to test a dual RTX 3080" ?! A bit of research could have let you know that the 3080 does not support NVIDIA NVLink and so on no SLI possible... Only the 3090 as NVIDIA NVLink support.
This is the most relevant review for me as a content creator and "half" gamer.. 3080 are the sweetest spot to put on your PC for the next 2 to 3 years.
People complain about how expensive 3090 is, but that's probably because they aren't the target market. 24GB is everything to 3D artists, and data science/machine learning. It's what the professionals are willing to pay.
@Pietro Figura this card still has not enough vram for actual pro super intense work, but for studios that don't have 5k at hand. And for the 8k rich bitches this card is for them.
@@stephaniemay9090 Exactly. It is basically the successor of the Titan, but because of the GeForce branding and all the hype, people try to treat it like a gaming card. To NVidias credit: they did say the 3080 will be their flagship gaming-card.
@@MrDragonorp well, for those who need do the actual pro super intense work, they'll have Quadro cards. Thos kind of user wouldn't buy a gaming card anyways - simply because of the lack of professional drivers.
@@rubenseventeen why tho, at best it'll match intel in gaming maybe. That's why intel is still selling, the audience that needs more than 6c/12t is very very small. Anyone on a 8th gen onwards intel system really doesn't need to upgrade for gaming until rocket lake.
@@knekker1 you missed the point, zen 3 at best will match intel in gaming, which isn't much different since coffelake. The reason rocket lake will be a true improvement is because of sizable ipc gains which gamea care about more than just increasing core counts. The tigerlake laptop previews already showed that.
@@maulcs They really are not catering towards professional use in specific this time around compared to just gaming on their sub 90/titan/ti cards lol, I hope they announce a version of the 3080 with slightly more vram or a 3070 that has multigpu support, because I don't plan on spending the money for a 3090 but a 3080 has too little vram.
@@skyr8449 It's two different memory areas that have to be managed separately by the application. What SLI does is to combine them into one area, but that's not possible with the 3080.
I love your Videos, you can feel the effort you put in! Sadly still not accustomed to the new Logo and Intro, but time will tell. I watched your video a bit to late my 3090 already on its way, was on fomo mode!
Can we have deep learning get added into the usual list of benchmarks ie production and gaming? Maybe can have a standardised PyTorch CNN benchmark with different batch sizes.. I feel that 3090 was made for deep learning and that it should be twice as fast as 2080ti.
I seriously got misty when he showed that Nvidia sent him a 3080 FE. Just as I felt Ali got the shaft by not getting the pre-release. Wonder what or who it took to get that 3080FE?
I was expecting the RTX 3090 to be the 4K gamers card of choice and that it would provide 130+ fps in 4K with RTX and DLSS turned on in the gaming benchmarks. But sadly, none of these UA-cam reviewers are showing that in their benchmarks. And this card does not have Displayport 2.0 either! What a shame ! Now I will just wait for AMD Big Navi and see what they release. What a shame ! Shame on Nvidia for charging that much for a disappointment of a card.
I think you really did a great job with this, and I think you're spot on in regards to the market for this card. I completely expected only a 10-15% rasterization performance improvement for this card, and I've said before how the 8k claims were more a tech-demo of HDMI 2.1 and DLSS2.0 than a real demo of the 3090's performance itself. Nvidia made a clear shout out to streamers and machinima artists and whatnot during the announcement for a reason. I think the 3090 is squarely aimed at content creators who primarily make content around gaming. They want a GeForce level card with "Ti" performance, but they need the VRAM of a Titan. The 3090 perfectly fills that gap. This is a card for game streamers and other gaming content creators, and in that respect, I think the $1499 price tag is a bargain when you look at the alternatives in the Titan and Quadro lines that have comparable VRAM. For the rest of us, the 3080 is the card to get.
Supposedly DLSS 3.0 is already close to release, and promises to sample 9 pixels out of 1, so that 8k marketing gimmick might become quite a bit better soon enough. And it will also supposedly work with ANY game that supports TAA..
@@3rd.world.eliteAJ Let's hope they can bring down the latency with DLSS3.0 then. One of the downsides to DLSS is it adds quite a bit to GPU frametime. This leads it to not being great for high refresh-rate scenarios like VR or 240hz monitors.
@@matthagge4792 For VR there's VRSS, and if you have a 240Hz monitor, you should have one that has G-Sync, especially with a 3070-3080 budget, which mitigates jumps in frametimes. From what I can tell DLSS only adds a few ms in frametimes which nobody can notice, it becomes a problem when frametimes aren't stable - which they are. Also, Nvidia Reflex should be implemented soon, so even using in combination with DLSS we'd see lower latency than with both off.
It's so fun watching reviews of last gen's flagships knowing you can either get them for 50-30% of the original price or get a gpu that's even more powerful
@@smarquez42 well then Titan rtx was a gaming card? No it wasn't even if it was the "fastest" graphics card ! What would a gamer even do with 24gb of ram ? Play 8k ... On a 20k dollars yeah right, even 4k gamers only make 3-4% of us gamers and 1080p and 1440p are king right now And if you would get the 3090 for 1440p it wouldn't be the best experience, go watch gamers nexus review on it
FinneousPJ1 that’s literally not true, $1 for example is worth quite bit in a third world country but not much in a first world country. This could be also said with people with money, you may think $1500 is a lot but to some people it’s pocket change. In their eyes they aren’t spending a lot.
"Some workloads don't scale as well or at all with multi GPU support" This is a critical point. Some applications can only use the memory of a single card even when two are installed so suggesting two 3080s are better vaue is massively misleading. The ONLY meanngful way to reveiew this card is as it was intended. Spending more than 10 seconds on games was massively dishonest.
Lets be honest, most people will game on 3090, because its much much larger group than content creators, regardless of price bracket. If it games run well or in the case its the fastest gaming gpu there will be a lot of people who will "invest" and its not rare.
recomendation: only get the 3090 if you need more than 10gb of vram that the 3080 offers or if you have a bunch of money to just make the most overkill pc (because the 3080 would be more than enough) and the 3090 can be used for blender and other stuff
The only card people should compare this to is a 3080 or the soon to be 3080 20gb price wise. I don't know how the $1,500 price tag (double) is justifiable compared to the cards listed above. Titan tier but won't have Titan like drivers? The rumoured 48gb Quadro if at a decent price could be a bigger sell for a production card for people that really need it.
@@deandudek3921 SLI links the cards together so they can work on/with the same resources. This is a necessity for games. Production workloads (eg, video rendering) can be divided such that one frame doesn't rely on another, and, unlike gaming, you can render frames generally in any order. In a multi-GPU scenario, there doesn't need to be any link between the GPUs to do the work. For instance, you could send frames 1-50 to one GPU and frames 51-100 to the other GPU and not really have to care which one got finished first (or even what order they processed the frames, depending on key/i/b/etc. frames). Long story short, not all workloads require that the GPUs be linked together (or even be the same type of GPU).
Just brought a 3090 I'm coming from a 2080 Super, I will see a jump in performance. I have a ASUS Dual 2080 Super OC and I brought a ASUS TUF GAMING 3090 OC. I'm pretty sure I'll see an upgrade right out of the box 😃.........
They actually specified multiple times in their launch that this was their new titan-class card, where the 3080 is considered the new flagship GPU. ABSOLUTE BEST =/= flagship. The XX80 series card is traditionally seen as the flagship.
But missing the ti variant, and 3090 appears out of nowhere. Therefore people assumed 3090 as the new 3080ti, i am sure nvidia is plotting something here....
4:38 : so basically I looked at an Overwatch game, that was displayed on an Asus monitor, filmed through a camera and displayed into resolve, displayed on my own screen. technology has gone too far guys
Starting with Blender first, my man! Awesome work dude. And since you're probably the only one who can understand and test this right now: Can you please test the NVLink capability with 2 RTX 3090's in Blender 2.9? I really want to see this type of setup in action! With the memory pooling ability. Thx, bro!
These half length pcbs should make for some tiny water blocks.... Would love to see a record breaking sff build with the 800w hdplex powering a custom 3080 fe loop. I don't see much external brick builds but they make a lot of sense to me
Thank you for your thoughtful review and the honesty is very much appreciated. I planned on buying the 3090 for video rendering\school and a whole bunch of games but now I don’t quite know, if the thermals are good then that will be a factor...
You do realize the 3090 being a minute faster is actually amazing, usually animations are either 24 or 30 fps, thats allot of framea ans 24-30 minutes saved per second of animation, the math is simple. Ots a great value card for designers of all sorts who had to shell put 2.5k for the titan rtx or more for quadros
@@SpacedudeGFX dude only ones being led astray dont deserve to game on pc then if they are so clueless. Jensen specifically said this replaces the titan. And its hardware is indeed 20% stronger than the 3080 and games that truely utilize the hardware did show up to a 23% increase. This card is for content creators who previously had to shell out 2500 for a titan rtx or more dor a quadro.
RTX 3090 IS THE KING!!! If you someone just like me? Someone who loves technology? A gamer? Someone who wants friends all over the world. Let's be friends and support one another.
I'm not sure what exactly you want to see. This is not a TV review channel. If you want TV benchmarks then there are resources like HDTVTest and RTings available who have already reviewed the TV in great detail.
I'm a scientist in a research lab and we're upgrading to 3080s over the 3090 because of the performance per dollar. While things in science are usually quite expensive, price still matters a lot. Two 3080s will definitely out perform a 3090, especially because the CUDA accelerated programs we use/write can use separate GPUs without any problems.
@@sayacee5813 happened actually through game optimization, I get way more frames now than I did when this started. It was a first generation graphics card in a way so it was expected, 4090 I've only had recently so I can't give you my personal experience yet
3080/3090 FE vs Sliger SM580 please! Really need to know and obviously curious if the founders edition will work with what i have or if i need to just grab another Strix card. Thank you! Your content deserves more recognition.
"This (3090) is their flagship gpu for the current 30 series." In Nvidia's 30 series presentation, Jensen Huang specifically designated the 3080 as the flagship card, with the 3090 being the uber enthusiast offering for content creators and 8k gamers.
@@helloman3676 Hey, you are the one who said 8k gamers are nonexistent. There's video proof on UA-cam that Linus has gamed in 8k and I'm sure he is not the only one. Lots of people have more money than sense.
I'd love to know if it's worth trying to get a 3090x for a triple 4k monitor setup, I used to play 1080p surround and already have the monitors but with the current 980ti I'm running frame rates are garbage. Is it worth trying for triple 4k on a 3090 or should i stick to single 4k, get a 3080 and wait?
Personally, as an AI researcher, more memory on a GPU is absolutely game changer, when taking into account the training of large scale neural networks on 3D objects. Other than this use case, I totally agree with the overkill statement for gaming...
This is no surprise. Both of them are normally priced. One might actually get angry at the marketing and pricing scheme of such a card, but they should never forget, that premium performance comes always at higher prices. I always compare this with the bicycle market. You can buy a lightweight carbon road bike for 3.000€ but you can also buy a 5.000€ Lightweight bike. The problem is: the more you pay the narrower the gap between performance will be. Back then 1060 for 250€ and 1070 for 430€. 1070 wasn´t particularly double the performance in comparison to 1060, but it was almost double the price. People shouldn´t be dreaming of Nvidia being a Stakeholder company. It's an American company and therefore Shareholder principles are normal.
The only way you're going to utilize this card is with high vram requirements. No games budget for more than the 11gb for ultra settings so you just won't find anything to test it at the moment.
3080 + 3090 FE arrived this afternoon, some immediate testing on those coming up next!
congrats on getting some!
Dude let's goooo 🙌🏽
Nice one mate!
You gonna test the 3080 in a ghost s1?
Get an icx 3080 for H1 please
this man has 50% of the entire 3090 stock
No wonder nobody can find these cards in stores, every UA-camr and their mothers got them all.
Linus has the other one!
Lol nice humour but these guys get sent a different stock, not the regular production stock. It's a batch made for and dedicated to be sent to these youtubers only. So technically he doesn't have 50% of the entire 3090 stock or 3080.
Noor Ahmed - I bet you're the funny guy at parties
@@dirtyasianmafia2310 xD i wasn't sarcastic when i said nice humour :P the OP genuinely has a good joke
Out of all of the 30909 reviews, I watch OT's review first, because he deserves it :D
Because he's very straight to the point, for me. Short videos first because I have work soon usually when these videos go up.
I only watch him and GN.
Same, he's the only one that I really really trust. Even if the reviews came a bit later, it's worth the wait.
All hail to our ITX guru
I watched Dave Lee then OT then GN then ltt
When can we expect Ncase m1 build with 3080?
ncase m1 practically support up to 280mm and 3080 is over 290mm....
@@dorapa The Ncase M1 V6 actually supports up to 317mm length graphics cards... Got this info directly from their website.
I have a Asus TUF 3090 arriving tomorrow and a Ncase M1 will give you guys a feedback!
@@mabizu Oh cool , please do ! Cause i'm gonna have the exact same build :)
I saw someone's Reddit post, with a 240 aio on the side as intake and two intakes at the bottom, it sits between 60-70c under gaming load
for rendering I would personally take a 3090 despite the price doubling, the RAM bottleneck of 10gig of the 3080 will force me to spend a lot extra time optimising my scenes ( currently using x2 1080ti 11Gig) , the extra 14 Gigs is going to be a total game changer for me, it's my main reason for buying, mine arrives today! so pumped!
Are you still using it? 2 years later.
Can’t wait to see a ITX build with these cards
Well I Will put a 3090 into my fractal define Nano s tomorrow. Even tho it’s quite large for being itx.
@@johan96lange That is a huge case.
noleftturnunstoned not really huge. I would still call it a small pc case. It’s like a matx case.
@@johan96langeI cannot fault as I recently "upgraded" to a NZXT h210. Fractal designs used to be so ahead of the times, wonder what happened.
noleftturnunstoned they still hold up so well tho. Still my favorite itx case. They were so ahead, so the rest just caught up to them
I still don't understand how you don't have a cool milli subs. you are too good at this my man.
If you're a serious channel, it takes time. GN got only now 1mln subs, and Steve started in 2009.
Otherwise you do just "look I'm eating kebab for 1 week", and you got 1mln after 1 year.
YT is a strange place..
@@simoSLJ89 Just watched some of the first videos of Gamers Nexus. Steve looked so cute there haha.
Also kind of sad that he created his channel in the same year as I did but I never really tried to grow haha
@@NOV3LIST Yeah I didn't follow any channel back then, but I watched some early GN videos recently. His case reviews made in the his bedroom were still the best around! :D
Also remember he caters to a niche market, and all of his content is within a small variance. He does not really cover too much other than sff and liquid coolers and cases mostly.
@Preston Garvey so is yours :)
To this day I am still satisfied with my 3080, I bought it 2 months after launch, and have had it since.
The performance at 1440p is extraordinary, and even at 4K in some titles.
I probably won't upgrade until the 50xx series is being released.
Nice looking cards. Wondering when they will be released for humans.
Dont even bro. Mine came in yesterday. MSI gaming x trio 3080. Blue screen of death when trying to install drivers. Took it to the store and they had same issue with it so it was defective. Refunded and ordered evga 3080 xc3 ultra but im also back in queue for order to arrive. 😂
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Release for humans? Hmm I didn't think about that
I've got a 3080 asus gaming a few days ago btw
That's cool, but personally I can't wait for the 3070 review! Especially mini 3070.
The 3070 is exactly the performance of a 2080ti, just for 500 dollars. Ow, and you get the HDMI 2.1 port. That's it.
Yeah, of all hype, 3070 is more make sense for majority of people,.. Actually
Honestly probably slower than 2080 Ti by 5%
3070 availability will be bloodbath, its good idea for that segment users to wait and see what rdna 2 has to offer
@@FuncleChuck slower than 2080 ti, maybe in older games, not newer games. going forward the 3070 will only get faster, 2080 ti won't, nvidia will have full focus on tweaking and optimizing ampere.
I don't know about you.
But the thing that hyped me in the first few seconds of this videos wasn't the RTX 3090...
but the RTX 3080 FE in the background, SFF testing coming guys !
Did I seriously heard "Planning to test a dual RTX 3080" ?!
A bit of research could have let you know that the 3080 does not support NVIDIA NVLink and so on no SLI possible... Only the 3090 as NVIDIA NVLink support.
Doesn't really matter for raytracers. You can let one card render odd frames and the other even frames, no SLI needed for that.
Not important for workstation applications.
The 3080 does not support SLI.
Some software can still use multiple graphics cards without SLI.
@@coolbydefault he was talking about for blender rendering. Render times should scale pretty linearly when adding gpus
3090 is the only rtx 3000 series card that supports sli
This is the most relevant review for me as a content creator and "half" gamer.. 3080 are the sweetest spot to put on your PC for the next 2 to 3 years.
I loved the way Ali slung that 3090 FE from below - I had a little "yasss!" moment to myself.
And there is 3080 FE on the left.
Thank you for bench testing the msi gaming x models!
If you've ever done fluid or smoke simulations in blender, you'll realize how little 10GB of VRAM can be :D
People complain about how expensive 3090 is, but that's probably because they aren't the target market. 24GB is everything to 3D artists, and data science/machine learning. It's what the professionals are willing to pay.
24GB isn't enough for 8K Canon RAW. Damn it. It's a gaming GPU. I wish it still supports SLI profiles.
@Pietro Figura this card still has not enough vram for actual pro super intense work, but for studios that don't have 5k at hand. And for the 8k rich bitches this card is for them.
@@stephaniemay9090 Exactly. It is basically the successor of the Titan, but because of the GeForce branding and all the hype, people try to treat it like a gaming card. To NVidias credit: they did say the 3080 will be their flagship gaming-card.
@@MrDragonorp well, for those who need do the actual pro super intense work, they'll have Quadro cards. Thos kind of user wouldn't buy a gaming card anyways - simply because of the lack of professional drivers.
Looking forward to seeing some builds with these cards! Especially in the Ncase M1
Another great analysis. I can't wait until I get my 3080 arrives ---- in 6 months time.
Same here, cant wait to build my 3080 pc with r7 3700x in another 6 months
@@mahendranraja1105 u should wait for zen 3, I have a 2070s but I'm waiting for zen 3
@@rubenseventeen why tho, at best it'll match intel in gaming maybe. That's why intel is still selling, the audience that needs more than 6c/12t is very very small. Anyone on a 8th gen onwards intel system really doesn't need to upgrade for gaming until rocket lake.
@@najeebshah. Or until Zen 3.
@@knekker1 you missed the point, zen 3 at best will match intel in gaming, which isn't much different since coffelake. The reason rocket lake will be a true improvement is because of sizable ipc gains which gamea care about more than just increasing core counts. The tigerlake laptop previews already showed that.
Your videos are so clean man, you deserve a bigger audience imo.
U talked about 2x 3080, but as far as I know sli is only available on the 3090 this time
@@maulcs They really are not catering towards professional use in specific this time around compared to just gaming on their sub 90/titan/ti cards lol, I hope they announce a version of the 3080 with slightly more vram or a 3070 that has multigpu support, because I don't plan on spending the money for a 3090 but a 3080 has too little vram.
You don't need SLI to use multiple graphics cards for professional applications.
@@anlumo1 Oh, I did not know that, would it be possible to use the VRAM like with NVLINK or would that only be possible with NVLINK?
@@skyr8449 It's two different memory areas that have to be managed separately by the application. What SLI does is to combine them into one area, but that's not possible with the 3080.
I think Nvidia is using the memory as the deciding factor for people. 3080 would look far better if it had 12GB minimum.
I love your Videos, you can feel the effort you put in! Sadly still not accustomed to the new Logo and Intro, but time will tell. I watched your video a bit to late my 3090 already on its way, was on fomo mode!
He's got all the cards!!! That's why I can't find any!! 😂😂👍
Can we have deep learning get added into the usual list of benchmarks ie production and gaming? Maybe can have a standardised PyTorch CNN benchmark with different batch sizes.. I feel that 3090 was made for deep learning and that it should be twice as fast as 2080ti.
I seriously got misty when he showed that Nvidia sent him a 3080 FE. Just as I felt Ali got the shaft by not getting the pre-release. Wonder what or who it took to get that 3080FE?
Wdym "you're better off with two 3080's" ?? You can't run 3080's SLI
He's talking about workstation purposes. A lot of rendering and CAD software allow workload to be distribute over 2 separate GPUs, no SLI needed.
@@jondoe9596 Oh makes more sense. Cool
I was expecting the RTX 3090 to be the 4K gamers card of choice and that it would provide 130+ fps in 4K with RTX and DLSS turned on in the
gaming benchmarks. But sadly, none of these UA-cam reviewers are showing that in their benchmarks. And this card does not have Displayport 2.0 either!
What a shame ! Now I will just wait for AMD Big Navi and see what they release. What a shame ! Shame on Nvidia for charging that much for a
disappointment of a card.
I think you really did a great job with this, and I think you're spot on in regards to the market for this card. I completely expected only a 10-15% rasterization performance improvement for this card, and I've said before how the 8k claims were more a tech-demo of HDMI 2.1 and DLSS2.0 than a real demo of the 3090's performance itself. Nvidia made a clear shout out to streamers and machinima artists and whatnot during the announcement for a reason. I think the 3090 is squarely aimed at content creators who primarily make content around gaming. They want a GeForce level card with "Ti" performance, but they need the VRAM of a Titan. The 3090 perfectly fills that gap. This is a card for game streamers and other gaming content creators, and in that respect, I think the $1499 price tag is a bargain when you look at the alternatives in the Titan and Quadro lines that have comparable VRAM. For the rest of us, the 3080 is the card to get.
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Spot on, Matt.
Supposedly DLSS 3.0 is already close to release, and promises to sample 9 pixels out of 1, so that 8k marketing gimmick might become quite a bit better soon enough. And it will also supposedly work with ANY game that supports TAA..
@@3rd.world.eliteAJ Let's hope they can bring down the latency with DLSS3.0 then. One of the downsides to DLSS is it adds quite a bit to GPU frametime. This leads it to not being great for high refresh-rate scenarios like VR or 240hz monitors.
@@matthagge4792 For VR there's VRSS, and if you have a 240Hz monitor, you should have one that has G-Sync, especially with a 3070-3080 budget, which mitigates jumps in frametimes. From what I can tell DLSS only adds a few ms in frametimes which nobody can notice, it becomes a problem when frametimes aren't stable - which they are.
Also, Nvidia Reflex should be implemented soon, so even using in combination with DLSS we'd see lower latency than with both off.
2:41 WTH that's huge
dude must be on steroids
@@anthonycornejo836 Weed Tech
it ain't called bfgpu for nothing
That's what she said
Gonna wait for AMD and reviews of their Navi 21 GPUs ... I'm in no rush to upgrade my 5700 XT Nitro+
Yeah.. and scalpers are getting their money ready
Is no one going to talk about 7:50 ? Alrighty then
at least the game is consistent lol
It's a feature, not bug
It's so fun watching reviews of last gen's flagships knowing you can either get them for 50-30% of the original price or get a gpu that's even more powerful
awesome card ! but yes just 15% perf in more is not incredible for the price
3090 is not a gaming card
@@moonknightish Well, is the fastest gaming card on the market. It is a gaming card, that also can do other things.
@@smarquez42 well then Titan rtx was a gaming card? No it wasn't even if it was the "fastest" graphics card ! What would a gamer even do with 24gb of ram ? Play 8k ... On a 20k dollars yeah right, even 4k gamers only make 3-4% of us gamers and 1080p and 1440p are king right now
And if you would get the 3090 for 1440p it wouldn't be the best experience, go watch gamers nexus review on it
@@smarquez42 It's the opposite, it's a workstation card that can also do gaming
@@moonknightish it's a titan with bad marketing
Just received Ghost S1. Can’t wait to see 3080 build with this case! Checking your channel everyday for the updates!
If you look at the 3080 you would notice the lack of an SLI slot. Nvidia said that only the 3090 will have SLI support.
Would love to see the thermals compared for all the vendors both 3080 and 3090.
the real question is how the 3070 fits into all this when it launches, if it's this close between it and the 3080 then it will be really interesting
What the hell are you doing that you're getting so many frametime spikes? Looks to me like your memory isn't properly set up.
Exactly what I expected. As they said in the presentation, this card is only for people that don't care how much they spend.
I.e. fools
I bet, nvidia could release a 3090 ti, with a 1 to 2.5 percent performance increase over the 3090, for 3,000 bucks, and it would sell out.
FinneousPJ1 not fools they have spare cash. Who are you to judge how people spend their money.
@@profesercreeper No matter how much cash you have, if you don't care how much you spend you are a fool.
FinneousPJ1 that’s literally not true, $1 for example is worth quite bit in a third world country but not much in a first world country. This could be also said with people with money, you may think $1500 is a lot but to some people it’s pocket change. In their eyes they aren’t spending a lot.
"Some workloads don't scale as well or at all with multi GPU support"
This is a critical point. Some applications can only use the memory of a single card even when two are installed so suggesting two 3080s are better vaue is massively misleading.
The ONLY meanngful way to reveiew this card is as it was intended. Spending more than 10 seconds on games was massively dishonest.
Lets be honest, most people will game on 3090, because its much much larger group than content creators, regardless of price bracket. If it games run well or in the case its the fastest gaming gpu there will be a lot of people who will "invest" and its not rare.
recomendation: only get the 3090 if you need more than 10gb of vram that the 3080 offers or if you have a bunch of money to just make the most overkill pc (because the 3080 would be more than enough) and the 3090 can be used for blender and other stuff
Damn it. The stock never showed up. Is it a meme launch only for reviewers?
The "anti-bot" measures were a paper launch.
The stock went up for only 43 millisecond before the bots devoured all of them
@@jm8080ful now the low tier SKUs costs 3k+ on eBay. Why do they have to make 8K gaming so unattainable?
clean and informative content as always. You definitely deserve more subs and a direct sample card from NV :)
The only card people should compare this to is a 3080 or the soon to be 3080 20gb price wise. I don't know how the $1,500 price tag (double) is justifiable compared to the cards listed above. Titan tier but won't have Titan like drivers? The rumoured 48gb Quadro if at a decent price could be a bigger sell for a production card for people that really need it.
3:43 You mention you want to test two 3080's in a build if I'm hearing that correctly? How would you go about that?
Lmao yeah only 3090 has the slot to link
Some applications allow you to target specific GPUs. It's not the same as SLI.
GordonGEICO how’s it different ?
@@deandudek3921 SLI links the cards together so they can work on/with the same resources. This is a necessity for games.
Production workloads (eg, video rendering) can be divided such that one frame doesn't rely on another, and, unlike gaming, you can render frames generally in any order. In a multi-GPU scenario, there doesn't need to be any link between the GPUs to do the work. For instance, you could send frames 1-50 to one GPU and frames 51-100 to the other GPU and not really have to care which one got finished first (or even what order they processed the frames, depending on key/i/b/etc. frames).
Long story short, not all workloads require that the GPUs be linked together (or even be the same type of GPU).
Just brought a 3090 I'm coming from a 2080 Super, I will see a jump in performance. I have a ASUS Dual 2080 Super OC and I brought a ASUS TUF GAMING 3090 OC. I'm pretty sure I'll see an upgrade right out of the box 😃.........
Congrats on getting the 3090 FE!
Great video as always! Are you going to check out the new silverstone sg14? Looks very interesting.
Please do a review of Tuf cards in the HZXT H1 case! The ASUS TUF series is one of few cards that can remotely fit there :(
They actually specified multiple times in their launch that this was their new titan-class card, where the 3080 is considered the new flagship GPU. ABSOLUTE BEST =/= flagship. The XX80 series card is traditionally seen as the flagship.
But missing the ti variant, and 3090 appears out of nowhere. Therefore people assumed 3090 as the new 3080ti, i am sure nvidia is plotting something here....
Curious to see what is going to be the SVB (smallest viable build) for these cards. :-)
4:38 :
so basically I looked at an Overwatch game, that was displayed on an Asus monitor, filmed through a camera and displayed into resolve, displayed on my own screen.
technology has gone too far guys
same as it ever was. are you new?
If you would have thrown in "all while monitored by NSA", I would have agreed with the "too far" part.
Who should buy the RTX 3090?
Scalpers: YES!
Keep up the good work! Looking forward to all that 3080 FE in SFF content coming up.
Starting with Blender first, my man!
Awesome work dude. And since you're probably the only one who can understand and test this right now: Can you please test the NVLink capability with 2 RTX 3090's in Blender 2.9?
I really want to see this type of setup in action! With the memory pooling ability.
Thx, bro!
3080 doesn’t offer SLI support though, only the 3090 does this generation.
Doesnt really matter since its not popular with game devs anyways. Might be useful for nongaming i guess
Last Word That was the point, he talked about it in the video about dual GPU use for content creation
Stefan Muller Oh okay, that clears it up, thanks
It's pretty clear why they didn't put an SLI bridge on the 3080 now.
Could you please tell me where did you get your rams? Didn't knew 4000mhz cl15 was possible
Who the hell WORKS with 8K footage? You make proxies! You'll save the horsepower for effects, transitions and compositing.
Would love to see a comprehensive fit and airflow review of various 3000 series cards in various SFF cases. I’m mostly here for the SFF, after all :)
So keen to get my hands on the 3090 FE here in Australia... can’t find it anywhere!
These half length pcbs should make for some tiny water blocks.... Would love to see a record breaking sff build with the 800w hdplex powering a custom 3080 fe loop. I don't see much external brick builds but they make a lot of sense to me
Thank you for your thoughtful review and the honesty is very much appreciated. I planned on buying the 3090 for video rendering\school and a whole bunch of games but now I don’t quite know, if the thermals are good then that will be a factor...
You do realize the 3090 being a minute faster is actually amazing, usually animations are either 24 or 30 fps, thats allot of framea ans 24-30 minutes saved per second of animation, the math is simple. Ots a great value card for designers of all sorts who had to shell put 2.5k for the titan rtx or more for quadros
Most people are being led astray by Nvidias marketing. You and I both know this isn’t for gaming.
@@SpacedudeGFX dude only ones being led astray dont deserve to game on pc then if they are so clueless. Jensen specifically said this replaces the titan. And its hardware is indeed 20% stronger than the 3080 and games that truely utilize the hardware did show up to a 23% increase. This card is for content creators who previously had to shell out 2500 for a titan rtx or more dor a quadro.
RTX 3090 IS THE KING!!! If you someone just like me? Someone who loves technology? A gamer? Someone who wants friends all over the world. Let's be friends and support one another.
Any plans to test the upcoming LG CX 48” with these cards?
The cx 48 is allready here...it´s not upcoming^^
I'm not sure what exactly you want to see. This is not a TV review channel. If you want TV benchmarks then there are resources like HDTVTest and RTings available who have already reviewed the TV in great detail.
@@krazyfrog I'm sure they want to see a 4k oled tv with hdmi 2.1 being tested with the new rtx cards cause you know, they have hdmi 2.1 outputs
It's been out for some time noe...
i have the 55" LG CX. they're so good. just ordered a 3080 :)
3x RTX 3090? Lucky you. I hope you don’t have to send them back. I kind of want to see a water cooled 3090 in a dual radiator SFF build :)
I'm a scientist in a research lab and we're upgrading to 3080s over the 3090 because of the performance per dollar. While things in science are usually quite expensive, price still matters a lot. Two 3080s will definitely out perform a 3090, especially because the CUDA accelerated programs we use/write can use separate GPUs without any problems.
Most humble and honest tech youtuber between well known ones. I don't remember seeing you ever 'spit' on anyone or anything unnecessary.
3090 was marketed as 8K gaming. I wonder what would be the result for 3080 vs 3090 in 8K. But I see Marques has allready a video about it.
Both the 3080 and 3090 will get faster with updates but I believe the 3090 will have large margin of improvements per update.
2 years later, this didnt happen
@@sayacee5813 happened actually through game optimization, I get way more frames now than I did when this started.
It was a first generation graphics card in a way so it was expected, 4090 I've only had recently so I can't give you my personal experience yet
3080/3090 FE vs Sliger SM580 please! Really need to know and obviously curious if the founders edition will work with what i have or if i need to just grab another Strix card. Thank you! Your content deserves more recognition.
Could you please tell me, which microphone you are normally using for fan noise and such?
Uh...how do you plan on 2 3080s? There is no SLI on 3080s
How is it that you got an rtx 3090 before everyone else, but not a 3080 review sample? Are these from Nvidia directly or self purchased?
1440p is popular right now, but 4K is going to be the future resolution. And if you can afford these cards you can also shell out a 4K monitor.
Any plans on making SFF builds using the 30-series cards?
VR ? Test MSFS2020 with G2 when this comes out around mid to late October. Half and full res (G2) vs 3080. Thanks!
You can use 2x 3080 in Blender, you don't need sli/nvlink for that
If like to see a comparison in 8K between the 3090 and 3080, maybe there it will show its performance lead
Another great vid. Thanks mate! Any chances you’re trying the 3080 FE in the Ghost s1? I’m worried about temps. Cheers
"This (3090) is their flagship gpu for the current 30 series."
In Nvidia's 30 series presentation, Jensen Huang specifically designated the 3080 as the flagship card, with the 3090 being the uber enthusiast offering for content creators and 8k gamers.
there are no such thing as 8k gamer, yet.
@@helloman3676 All you need is a 3090 and an 8k monitor. Not cheap, but neither are automobiles and everybody be drivin'.
@@pltatman1 So you gonna take out a loan for TV and PC LMAO. No.
@@helloman3676 Hey, you are the one who said 8k gamers are nonexistent. There's video proof on UA-cam that Linus has gamed in 8k and I'm sure he is not the only one. Lots of people have more money than sense.
@@pltatman1 Linus is not a gamer...
I'm not following... How can you put 2x 3080 if Nvidia stopped supporting SLI?
I'd love to know if it's worth trying to get a 3090x for a triple 4k monitor setup, I used to play 1080p surround and already have the monitors but with the current 980ti I'm running frame rates are garbage. Is it worth trying for triple 4k on a 3090 or should i stick to single 4k, get a 3080 and wait?
did you test BF5 in DX12? cause i got stutters too, which was fixed by using DX11. maybe give it a try?
Correct me if I am wrong but I thought the only cards in this generation to support multi gpu (SLI) were the 3090 and not the 3080?
Personally, as an AI researcher, more memory on a GPU is absolutely game changer, when taking into account the training of large scale neural networks on 3D objects. Other than this use case, I totally agree with the overkill statement for gaming...
7:50 that's strange treadmill
3:45 there is no SLI support for the rtx 3080. Technically, you can’t get faster than with an rtx 3090 SLI right now
Any reason you're not comparing the RTX Titan card in your comparisons? The 3090 is meant to replace the Titan card's position in the market.
Any chance you'll get a second 3090 and do NVLink benchmarks with them?
Which one could you put into a mini-itx case?
i think both depending on the case ofcourse
For most mini itx I would guess the 3070 is going to be the sweet spot for size/performance.
Can we get a RTX3080 nr200 build with optimized noise to thermal performance?
What’s the difference between all of the 3080’s is it just the looks that’s different or do they all operate differently
This is no surprise. Both of them are normally priced. One might actually get angry at the marketing and pricing scheme of such a card, but they should never forget, that premium performance comes always at higher prices. I always compare this with the bicycle market. You can buy a lightweight carbon road bike for 3.000€ but you can also buy a 5.000€ Lightweight bike. The problem is: the more you pay the narrower the gap between performance will be. Back then 1060 for 250€ and 1070 for 430€. 1070 wasn´t particularly double the performance in comparison to 1060, but it was almost double the price. People shouldn´t be dreaming of Nvidia being a Stakeholder company. It's an American company and therefore Shareholder principles are normal.
The only way you're going to utilize this card is with high vram requirements. No games budget for more than the 11gb for ultra settings so you just won't find anything to test it at the moment.
I love the quality of your videos (audio + video quality) 😍
Isn’t SLI not supported anymore on the 3080？ or is it possible to run it through the chipset？ wouldn’t that be bad in terms of performance?
Blender doesn't need SLI/bridge support? It scales just from PCI-E? Cool