Which RTX 3090 to BUY and AVOID! Ft. Nvidia, Asus Gigabyte, MSI, Palit, Zotac
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- Опубліковано 8 сер 2024
- Which is the best RTX 3090? Well I found out a lot of interesting and potentially problematic things with some of the models that reviewers don't seem to realize. In this video, I go into detail on everything you need to know about all the different RTX 3090 models that have been reviewed. From the PCB VRM components where I found some issues to the power limits and cooler efficiency.
The models in this roundup:
Nvidia Founder's Edition
Asus Strix and TUF Gaming
MSI Gaming X Trio
Zotac Trinity
Palit Gaming Pro OC
Gigabyte Eagle OC and Gaming OC.
Video on why RTX 3080/3090 had crashing issues: • Why were RTX 3080/3090...
Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro
00:49 - VRM Capability
02:49 - Power Limits
04:52 - Capacitors
05:35 - Cooling Efficiency Calculation
06:43 - Cooling Efficiency Graph
09:28 - Ranking 1-8
12:41 - Asus Strix in Detail
13:48 - MSI Gaming X Trio in Detail
15:51 - Asus TUF Gaming in Detail
16:54 - Gigabyte Eagle/Gaming in Detail
17:43 - Nvidia Founder's Edition in Detail
18:46 - Zotac Trinity in Detail
19:33 - Palit Gaming Pro OC in Detail
Indo Version: • RTX 3090 TERBAIK dan T...
Review Sources:
Nvidia Founder's Edition:
• RTX 3090 FE Review - N...
• Making Nvidia’s CEO ma...
• NVIDIA RTX 3090 Founde...
www.guru3d.com/articles-pages...
• We Found the Glue: Tea...
3080:
www.guru3d.com/articles_pages...
hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphi...
www.techpowerup.com/review/nv...
• GPU PCB Analysis: Foun...
Asus Strix:
www.techpowerup.com/review/as...
www.ti.com/product/CSD95481RWJ
Asus TUF Gaming:
hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphi...
• Asus TUF 3090 Unboxing...
www.techpowerup.com/review/as... for PCB shot
www.vishay.com/docs/49597/495...
MSI Gaming X Trio:
www.techpowerup.com/review/ms...
www.techpowerup.com/review/ms...
www.guru3d.com/articles_pages...
www.kitguru.net/components/gr...
www.overclock3d.net/reviews/g...
• MSI RTX 3090 Gaming X ...
www.onsemi.com/pub/Collateral...
www.onsemi.com/pub/Collateral...
Gigabyte Eagle/Gaming OC:
www.techpowerup.com/review/gi...
www.kitguru.net/components/gr...
hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphi...
www.aosmd.com/res/data_sheets/...
Palit Gaming Pro OC:
www.guru3d.com/articles-pages...
lab501.ro/placi-video/review-...
3080:
www.techpowerup.com/review/pa...
www.aosmd.com/res/data_sheets/...
Zotac RTX 3090 Trinity:
www.techpowerup.com/review/zo...
www.aosmd.com/res/data_sheets/...
3080 PCB:
• GPU PCB Breakdown: Zot... - Наука та технологія
I almost bought a 3090 last week but thankfully I came to my senses at the last second and veered the car off a cliff instead.
Lmao.
By the time you get out of the hospital they will be available in stores 🤣
Same here
LMAO!!!
Your hospital bill probably cost less than the card :P
This video was seriously helpful. I couldn’t find anyone else on the whole internet that did a comparison like this. Much appreciated
Some serious work was done here dude. Subscribed, liked it. GG
Much appreciated!
I ordered the Asus Strix OC on a whim, now I feel like I did what they call a pro gamer move :^)
from where?
@@H3llHoundd it was out of stock while u were asking this question 😂
Lol I tried to get a 6800xt and a 3080 from microcenter, all they had was a strix 3090. So I bought one lol, very overpriced but also a beast.
Got the 3090 TUF I’m hyped
Finally got the aorus rtx 3080 extreme ....satisfied
Exactly what i needed, thank you. Subbed
I understand that most users would just plug in the card and be done with it, so reviews should cover that kind of use case, but for comparing cooler efficiency it's really noise normalized or nothing IMHO.
Still great video though.
Well the efficiency calculation is literally cooling to noise ratio, but yea a noise normalized data would be much better just unfortunately I don't have the cards myself...
"Which RTX 3090 to buy ?" well ANY RTX 3090 that didn't run out of stock or twice as expensive due to scalpers.
@@cicada3312 is the palit gaming pro good?
i'd recommend to buy the 3080 ASUS line up, strix and TUF, why, they use 4 good MLCC. but until its in stock good luck getting one
@@cicada3312 i dont understeand very well sorry 😅 is it good or nah?
@@omegapx4495 nah
@@omegapx4495 I am very happy with mine. It is a good price / quality for a RTX3090. In a close case my temperature at full load (furmark) is 76 degrees and noise is 42 db.
Thanks for the vids! Can you update the 3090 with the EVGA cards sometime? Thanks!
Very useful review, thank you. Thank you for the thorough analysis, very helpful for someone in search of what's best for them.
I really appreciate the time and effort you’ve put into making these videos. Well done!
Wow this was WAY more in-depth than I expected. Cheers!
Does the power limit graph mean that all these cards, except for the Gaming X Trio and the Strix, stress your PSU the same?
I want to run a 3090 on my Seasonic 750w Platinum modular PSU. So I'm looking for a version that can be comfortably ran on that. And although the power consumption calculators say that I would be fine with all of 'em, I would appreciate your thoughts on it, also for the longevity of the system.
I'm obviously not doing any overclocking ;)
My setup:
- Msi x570 unify
- 3900X
- Dark Rock Pro 4 cpu cooler
1 x [Seasonic Focus PX-750 PSU]
3 x [m.2 NVME's PCIE gen4 ( Corsair MP600)]
2 x [32gb ram 3200mhz]
1 x [HDD @ 7200rpm]
3 x [monitors]
+ a couple of case fans and some usb stuff
Wich one is "safer" to buy as a probably minned card, betweent the RogStrix and Tuf? It seems that the Rog has better cooling, but wouldnt tha lower power limit of the tuf mean that it was running cooler? I have the impression that having run cool is the biggest concern on used minning cards. Also, does one of them have definetely better vRam temps?
Thank you!
So much detail. I had to subscribe, no other content like it. THANK YOU!
hi I'm new to pc building and i just want to ask if i use water cooling, is there any difference to be considered with each gpu...or they will run the same power?
Great video btw awesome info, which card would you recommend for rendering with Davinci Resolve or Premiere Pro, will there be a difference? Since that is what I will be using it for I don't game much. I subscribed btw this video was amazing.. Thx
What your use case is doesn't really matter what model of the card you should get. You should probably look into the 3060Ti or 3070 though because video rendering has diminishing returns getting a higher end card. Then use my video on those to pick the best one that's available to you.
@@OTechnology sorry for bothering you but for gaming i wonder maybe would be better pick 3090 Asus strix tahn 3080? Because 3080 normal card price is about 1500 3090 i can get for 1900 i think maybe be better pick 3090 or not for gaming?
zotac vrm is not bad, goes up to 660w with xoc vbios, at 660w the 9 core out of 18 total phases run about 37a per 50a
Hey there, thanks for the video, but can you explain all of the complicated terms like "DrMos" or "VRM"? It would help a lot, thanks!
Excellent video! :) I love the strix asus but...0 stock! :( Can't wait to get one...
Thank you very much for these kind of videos.
Your videos help a lot!
It's the 3090 that it's avoiding me!
Awesome video, what is the quitest 3090? MSI Gaming X Trio?
what about ftw3 ultra? where would you put on ranking? (i pretend to overclock it, and water block it in the future)
What's the best 3090 Ti..? I chose EVGA FTW3 Ultra, but Gigabyte cards have 4 year warranty instead of just 3
please do a follow up video on looking into detail of the EVGA 3090 ftw3
Hey there very well structured video.
I got a quick question.
I ordered a complete build with custom watercooling for the gpu.
They told me today they will use the palit card since its compatible with the cooling block.
But after your video it also seems like the worst card compared to the others overclocking wise.
Do I understand this right, that i will never be able to compete with the other cards, and i also cant apply better overclocking setting?
Many thanks!
Thanks! About the Palit, yes in terms of the power limit yea its not great at 365W which means even if you watercool it you probably won't gain anything extra.
Reference blocks are easier to get and just flash the bios to gigabyte gaming oc when on water n you'll be fine for oc
@@dnsean03 Sure everyone wants to buy an inferior cards and flash it to fix the inhererent flaw.
Such a great and informative vid. Subbed!
Thanks for your time, making this analisys. Thanks for the video!
My pleasure!
What do you think about palit 3090 gamerock?
Cant Thank you Enough
That`s same the question bugging me.
Very helpful video, Thanx :-)
Glad you found it useful!
despues de tanto wey dato, cual es la mejor opcion una 3090 founders edition o una asus strix???
Nice, I waited for this video!
Thanks, hope you found it useful.
I hope you could see my comment O!Technology. Since I am an 3D artist, I don't do OC on the card for gaming. Most of my time using the card is for 3D rendering, so I wonder if you could give me an advice if I should get the asus TUF or asus STRIX? Thank you.
If you’re not going to overclock it then I suggest getting the TUF since the Strix won’t be much faster at all unless you overclock it.
subscribed, very helpfull. Currently using hd7970 a 5 year old card.. and about time to upgrade but due to prices higher srp and lack of availability need to have more information from different comparison.
Thanks for the sub!
Palit 3080 GamingPro is alright, I use it in the Ncase M1 (SFF), and it fits just barely. Good thing to know that the 3090 has THE SAME size and cooler :/ although not sure if its a good thing
These "what to buy" videos are awesome. Thank you for making them. It really helped me to make an informed buying decision.
How about EVGA? Which place would this card take in this ranking? In a recent video you brag about purchasing such a card. Are you planning to update this movie? I would like to buy a 3090 for the CoolerMaster EG200, but the Strix is a few mm too thick and I suspect EVGA, unfortunately too. The Founders Edition is unfortunately beyond my reach (when it comes to availability). I would like a6000 the most, but the price is killing me. And many thanks for a professional video!
Awesome in-depth review especially the VRMs and Mosfet details, unlike others 'review' channel which just copy pasted from various other unboxing clips.
Really excellent vidoe!! Thank you!! It's quite a mixed bag isn't it, this time around?
Looks like Asus pretty much have it in the bag though, especially the Strix, wow! Kingpin has a competitor finally!
Also I've just seen the new Inno3D RTX3090 X4 (4 fan cooler design). I've tried to get info but it's mostly in Thai and sadly I don't speak Thai.
I just wonder? How would that stack up do you think?
Yep I'm especially disappointed in MSI though in their defense most people probably won't care about the VRM. The Strix is great but I wish they also used 70A power stages like the Founder's but its not a problem 1080A is plenty enough lol. I don't know about the inno3d but from my past experience using them they're gonna be along the lines of Zotac and Palit cards I think.
@@OTechnology yeah what was MSI thinking this time around? And oh ok nothing to get excited about then.
And this is what I'm not getting too. Why no water cooled "halo cards" that take from all of the best of the best and make that exact card?
The perfect best of the best of the best 3090 components?
I'm very confused by this launch as its been quite half baked and continues to be moving forward. Why not 20gb cards or at least 16gb like AMD for the 3080 straight off the shelf to begin with?
None of this is making any sense at all, especially AIB's aside from ASUS his time around too?
I don't know, something isn't right. I can feel it in my gut. And the power table drivers "fix" (band aid) ontop.
I honestly think the architecture is flawed, the caps just showed it and now most of the cards aren't going over 2ghz!? My Zotac AMP Extreme hits 2073mhz and my Zotac AMP Extreme 1080ti 2063hmz both at 53-55C MAX. The Trinity on the other hand, what the!?
Somethings a miss and I'm sure it'll come to light early next year. I hope the 6900xt beats the RTX3090 even by 1fps on average as I'll feel safer in my purchase I think. I'f not I'll have to buy the RTX 3090 STRIX and pay the quality control tax as I'm an enthusiast overclocker myself and don't want to blow up my card 😂.
@@CitizenTechTalk RTX 3080 can only either be 10GB or 20GB no in between due to the 320-bit memory bus, am actually going to make a video explaining this configuration that affects other cards before too.
I feel like Nvidia just didn't give partners enough time or information to develop their cards properly this time around. I definitely also agree that its only Asus and possible EVGA that's making good all around cards this time around. The rest ranges from meh to garbage on one or more components of it...or as a whole.
@@OTechnology agreed! I really look forward to your next video too. You're so knowledgeable and I'm learning heaps from you! Thank you!
I do more gaming and back end industry hardware large scale talk on my channel. This is opening up my eyes big time into the consumer side now as well. Seriously your channel needs to go viral mate!
You know you your know what and it's amazing the depth you go to compared to anyone else to explain it in layman's terms as well. Simply excellent!
See you in the next one!
@@OTechnology p.s when I do my next tech video soon (after the AMD launch with the actual facts proof and evidence from AMD's side finally I'll most certainly be giving you a big shout out and try to send subs your way too mate. You deserve the exposure. So I'll do my bit to help with that too.
Where is the PNY , EVGA??
Availability of these cards is the main issue. Rtx 3090 isn't really necessary for gaming but is really all that's available at present. Nearly bought a msi gaming trio - will go for the strix when it next shows in stock. Bit of a waste of money really.. no more so than paying over odds for a 3080. Any ideas when 3080 will be available..
What about Aorus Xtreme Max Cooling? 4-Slot Monster.
How about the EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 ULTRA 24GB GDDR6X, how good is this card
Ok I'm confused, why is the Founders Edition not second?
So if we're going to throw a waterblock on and undervolt, do most of these quantifiers matter? Seems like it's based on PCB/component quality which directly ties to OC and power limit, and then cooler efficiency. Basically if we're not OC'ing and replacing the cooler they're all practically the same?
If you're not overclocking the default power limit affects the performance they have. The cooler sure if you're putting a waterblock doesn't matter. The VRM current capability more shows how good a quality the PCB design is as manufacturers that cheap out will for sure put lower VRM capabilities which again mostly matters if you overclock and remove power limits with shunt mods.
can you add the evga ftw3 ultra in this also
From what I saw wouldn't the FE be placed around 3rd instead of 5th?
Great content! Thanks for sharing!
AWESOME, exactly what i was looking for. like and sub!
What are your thoughts on the EVGA FTW3 Ultra?
STAY AWAY. Severe design flaws making the card underperform and sometimes die, due to design issues they also overload the PCIE slot power draw. EVGA won't say a word and they simply send out different revisions of the card from RMA which are hit and miss.
Would be nice to have another version of this video but updated to Q3 2021
what does the "quiet" behind each mode means? Quiet mode? The none oc version?
Thank you for this information.
Nice and concise video!
In cyberpunk 2077, does the 3090 MSI Gaming X outperform the 3090 Founders Edition?
I managed to get a Zotac 3090 for a really good price and it's not the best. But, it was a REALLY good price. The RAM pads and paste on the core are hampering the cooling a lot on this card. Power wasn't an issue at aony point for OC. I'm actually running it undervolted, re-padded and re-pasted and it's really good with easily doubling the performance of my 1080ti at similar or lower wattage.
how much did u pay for it?
What are your settings for undervolt this gpu?
I think about £800. I don't remember the details as it was a while. I did the curve capping the voltage at 1.05V and the clocks get to about 2050MHz depending on the game and load. In most games easily stays around 2GHz and 75C. But I've changed the case to have better airflow.
@@lupierz ty
Which is better Between msi ventus 3x(not gaming x) and zotac trinity?
How do you think the KFA2s version of tghe 3090 would place on that list?
Would like to see practical info, like benchmarks or overclocking response.
Asus Strix is pretty amazing - stays SUPER cool somehow even when pushing it with the highest end 3D computing software.
What do you mean by "super cool"?
@@OriginalUser2023 He means it doesn't get hot.
This was a really helpful video for me
What about the PNY 3090?
hello wich 3090 ti its better ???
Just bought a Zotac on the basis a physical card is better than a non existent one! Since I don't intend to overclock, and the jump up from a 1080ti makes the slightly lower fps from the Zotac compared to other 3090s pretty much irrelevant, it'll keep me going for the next 5 years
Yeah I just bought one I'm not an overclocker and not gonna spend 300 more for 2 frames or a bit quieter fan! My main reason was for the vram I change cards every 5 years and why because games get more demanding hopefully with this the vram should keep up! At the end of the day these cards piss over everything.
@@martinblanch5828 I'm actually finding it really quiet, substantially quieter than my 1080ti blower edition! Really pleased with it so far :)
@@martinarscott3524 good! I'll be playing 4k on my TV so the rig 8 foot away and in a good case I'm coming away from 2 980ti's so it can't be any louder than then.
@@martinarscott3524 Hey there. I know it´s been a while since this comments. I wonder if you've had a good experience overall with the Zotac Trinity. I'm aiming to buy it for architectural rendering mainly, and secondarily for gaming, since the other 3090 models are so expensive. I wound appreciate your opinion on this card.
Thanks in advance.
@@dkn822 Hi, yes it's been fine, no problems with it at all, temperatures have been good (although I do have a big case with 10 fans....) and really good framerates, if I went back and did it all again I'd buy the same card
flashed my zotac 3090 with the gigabyte oc bios 390 watt got a nice increase in perf temps and stability is also fine
damn- is there a write up somewhere? how did you know you could load that bios w/o issue?
I think Asus Strix/tuf OC are the best and Evga ftw3 ultra coming in a close second. Managed to get an evga so I'm happy. Almost bought a gigabyte gaming oc but canceled the order.
Hows ur evga experience now?
I'm also interested. How was your experience with the EVGA. I'm about to get one dirty cheap.
@@rogerbronchal9628 It's been perfect. chugging along like a champ
great work
Thank you so much for your time
That's really helpful
You are welcome!
Fast forward to July 2021. GPU still hard to come buy but I was able to get the #7 Zotac 3090 Trinity OC model. Finally. Sad to see its not higher on the list though.
I heard there's GPUs nvidias making that's more powerful than the rtx 3090.
tbh a 3090 isn't really necessary you could have gone with 3080 to or 3080 with beefier coolers
Any opinions on the EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra ?
I heard evga top seller so often so you can go for it and not gonna regret
Great review. Thanks
Thanks for watching!
Will you be doing the same in a video on the 3090 TI?
The only clip i found in UA-cam.. very useful and it made me decided to buy 3090 asus Striker
Lol good luck finding any rtx 30 series in stock
@@yojama7100
Why luck? I have 5 cards and all of them for Msrp 🤷♂️ you should say : dont sleep while the cards drop
Any opinions on the gigabyte 3090 gaming oc
What about the EVGA ftw3 3090?? How does it compare with these?
Hi! How would the EVGA FTW3 ULTRA compare?
i think it's the fastest compared to all of those in the review. It clocks higher then the strix
Great quantitative comparison, just what I need!
Thanks! Glad to be helpful.
extremely informative
If I’m gonna use a gpu water block which card is best?
where do shop for the asus strix?
Can i buy evga rtx 3090 is it good?
Wich one is the best for mining?
What about FTW3, Suprim X or Aorus?
Yes i have the same question
Suprim the best one
@@Directx11cool Awesome, because in the meantime I happened to be able to buy one.
@@tomriddle2257 me too, I've got the 3090 Suprim X
Following
Do you have a discord kind sir? Id love to ask a few questions, not too clued up on this stuff.
Is your google broken?
What about the MSI 3090 Suprim X 24GB?
EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Gaming 24 GB GDDR6X, İCX3 Teknology, ARGB Led, Metal Backplate, 24G-P5-3987-KR (USA) : amzn.to/3tcnTcO
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Founders Edition Graphics Card (USA) : amzn.to/3fbuagE
Walked out with a 3090 tuf oc from my local Best Buy today. Very happy
I gave up on getting a 3080 since they're all over $1600 around me... got a 3090FE for $1499 at Best Buy and loving it! It auto clocks to 1990-2010Mhz solid while gaming which is a whopping 42Tflops!
Hey mate what temps are you getttingunder load? i got a chance to get one for £900 in the uk, but peeps are saying the cooler is crap?
So the TUF Asus is a good card for "stock" performance ? I do not intend to OC mine.
And VS the Strix the gap is pretty low no ?
Yea the TUF is definitely still a good card. For stock performance it will run extremely cool and quietly as well. The 40W gap to the strix at default will probably only yield a 3% performance increase at most.
@@OTechnology Thanks for your quick answer. My TUF 3090 is here tomorrow. Can't wait !
@@mikawelll no problem! Have fun with it haha
@@OTechnology I will.:D I hope my 750 psu will endure this power.
@@mikawelll From what I seen it *should* just scrape by just fine. Good luck!
What about colorful Neptune and aorus master and aorus extreme
Ordered my Strix 3090 OC on launch day, and I'm finally getting it a month later. It should arrive on the 23-rd of October. Really want to see how far I can push it. :)
Did it show up?
How is your 3090 doing?
Hey, I totally forgot about this comment. Yes, it arrived on Oct 23rd. I managed to get it in the Port Royal top 100 for awhile, might try to go further when I can change some stuff.
The Strix is amazing, the card is stable even at 2100MHz (keep in mind this is a 3090!).
Although I did find out that even my 860W PSU sometimes can’t supply enough peak power. So I had to tone down the OC a bit. I’m waiting for intel to announce Rocket Lake so I can make up my mind between AMD’s 5950X and intel’s supposed 11900k. I’ll be changing the PSU along with the CPU and mobo, and probably also do a custom cooling loop along with it. If you guys are still interested on how the 3090 performs, I’ll probably do a short video benchmarking Cyberpunk 2077 when it comes out :)
Do you use Msi afterburner to over clock it? And did you get that over clock on liquid or just use it stock?
For the 3090 TUF is there a vbios available that increases the power limit? On the EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra, they released a vbios that increased the power limit by 100w versus stock; I’m hoping maybe Asus did something similar?
Maybe throttlestop
Great exp
where does the evga 3090 fall?
I just won the msi gaming 3090 on newegg for 2200. Should I keep it for gaming or just cancel my order? That vrm issue you explained is kinda a bummer
If you're not overclocking it I wouldn't worry
How is EVGA?
Palit gamerock good ?
What about Inno3D GeForce RTX 3090 GAMING X3 ?
Is the Inno3D iChill the best ??
What about the Dell Alienware 3090 which is what I have. I put a Corsair water block on it