Oh, and there's also a metal version of the tune from the band 'Wilderun,' though...I am not sure why. It's a rather curious choice of source material for so shouty a song.
Hey man, thanks for the recommendation, I checked them out and I love the album it's on! Who would have thought metal and sea shanties would go so well together, but alas they do!
I actually think this version follows its source material quite good. I imagine the first part of the song, with clean vocals, to be sung by a veteran of war to some new recruits (boys) who are happy to go into battle. The pubsong sing-a-long vibe this part has really helps to that. The second part, with the grunting vocals, is wat the veteran says to the 'boys' during the battle when they realize the reality of war. But that's just my interpretation
A week before their duel, a duel, aka an affair of honor, A. Hamilton sang that song at a fourth of July party, standing on a table with a blood thirsty Aaron Burr looking up while seated at the same table, duel already planned ahead at the time. Hamilton, commited suicide in this duel, letting duel kill two birds with one Stone, 1. Hamilton, 2. Burr's own political future and freedom.This is written about in Ron Chernow's biography of Alexander Hamilton.
I don't mean to say 'forced' in a negative sense here. Rather, when the words are sung, they seem somewhat harsher in tone, for example the second cry of "How stands the glass around?" or later plea of "Why, soldiers why?" It makes the song sound overall more hollow, morally speaking, or dark in tone than if the words were sung jovially.
One of my favorite melancholy tunes is "Just Before the Battle, Mother". It was very popular during the American Civil War, I believe. Even if it wasn't, I do love to sing it at reenactments.
I've always known the song as a Civil War one, as well. I love it too!
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@@BrandonF Tenting on the old campground is a good one too. There's a video of it here on UA-cam where a reenactor sings it in a soulful manner, and nearly brings me to tears, every time.
If I may make a humble suggestion: Using "How Stands the Glass Around" as the ending tune for this video was very appropriate. However, I don't think it would fit well with some of your other, more lighthearted videos. Perhaps, you could you "How Stands the Glass Around" as the postlude for videos with serious or somber topics and use "The Girl I Left Behind Me" as the postlude on videos that are not all that serious or just for the fun of it. Thanks for the video, Brandon! I've never heard this song before, and you introduced it to me excellently.
Oh, I don't plan to replace my usual outro, I just did this time for a more thematic approach! Figured it might be out of place to end on so sorrowful a note and then strike up the happy tune. And thank you!
Hello from Glasgow GB. Their was a chap called John tams who played sharpshooter Daniel hagman in the Tv series Sharpe. He sings some of these old ones that I think you may like. Rule Britannia!
My personal favorites come from the American Civil War some that come to mind are Lorena, Vacant Chair, Home Sweet Home, Tenting on the Old Campground, and several old Irish and English laments that's names escape me.
“Danny Deever” and “Follow me home” by Rudyard Kipling are both very good poems that were put to music during WWI. “Danny Deever” is about a military hanging and “Follow me home” is an artilleryman’s lament for his fallen comrade and his anger at a society and institution that treats them as expendable.
@@BrandonF Goodness, I don't mean to necro... But, for anyone interested in Kipling's poems, check out Peter Bellamy! He puts a lot of them to song, and he sings them well!
I'm not sure just how popular it was, but given that most of the lyrics which I found were recorded just after the Napoleonic Wars, I assume it had some healthy presence.
+Jacob Dischert The images are taken from an old map of the British Empire. I took side decor out of the original and used them to frame my outro scene.
John Tams a actor in and a composer of the Sharpe TV series has a album "over the hills and far away", music from the series and songs of the period that I think you would enjoy
Wasn't there a series of documentaries that proved that soldiers sang quote-unquote over the hills and far away quote on quote all day everyday in every way and even sometimes modified the tunes depending on what they were doing at the moment?
Quick question but related to this but I'm 16 and I quite like the Napoleonic era of combat... and I recently bought some Napoleonic war figures to paint and such forth and I was wondering the head pieces other British and French where they sealskin or something else..? And is it bad I'm interested in Napoleonic warfare and such instead of video games and such forth?
Hey Brandon, I have a replica of an 18th century fife. I can play a few tunes like Yankee Doodle and The British Grenadiers. Can you recommend some traditional British tunes I could learn on it?
It makes more sense if you have the text: "what, sighing? Fie!" In the song, the soldier is showing disgust with the others' demeanor, which he finds inappropriate for their station in life. He expects them not to be so melancholy--just drown your sorrow in alcohol and a "kind landlady".
If "Affair of Honour" is a musical about the Hamilton and Burr duel, it's worth noting that accounts of the evening when Hamilton sung that song describe him as being affectionate and cheerful, while Burr was withdrawn and sullen. I don't think it's crazy to imagine that Hamilton sang it more like the Druids rendition, with a bit of cheeky bravado, especially considering his behavior on the duel grounds the next day. As others have pointed out, it's possible that this was meant to be more of a "Blood on the Risers" kind of deal, where the mood mismatch between the melody and the lyrics is very deliberate. But also, just to muddy the waters a bit, modern ears aren't going to react to this tune the same way they did when it was created because we have been culturally primed to associate minor keys with sadness, and 18th century Englishmen probably weren't. When exactly and how the shift to minor=sad happened is still a hot topic in music history and at the least, the shift seems to have been uneven depending on where you lived at the time. It may have changed in England while the song was still popular. This is all a long-winded way of saying that I don't really dig the amount of pathos in the second track. I don't think it's necessary and I think it's... possibly farby.
I remember stumbling across the Druids version with no prior knowledge of it. It chills to the bone with the classic twinge dark satirical humor classic to front line soldiers. Not a great fan of the second rendition, I'm afraid. A bit too performative for my taste. And I'm a theatre person lol
Jesus, was that written by an alcoholic veteran soldier?! How anyone could be inspired by such a depressing, poignant song is beyond me, I should think one needs to reflect upon themself if they find any cheer or comfort in this at all... That second version really did monkey with the lyrics though and definitely sounds like it was more meant for a dramatic play, something somewhat Les Mis, yet more low key? maybe not as musical? and really sounds better than the druid version...
just as paratroopers find inspiration and encouragement from 'gory, gory what a helluva way to die,' soldiers may find the same through this or other examples
lol what the hell. Are you kidding? They're soldiers. Have you ever been around soldiers? Those guys take macabre in good humor and high, sarcastic spirits. How Stands the Glass Around I think isn't as emo as people believe. If Blood on the Risers can serve as a testament about how soldiers view misfortune as "all part of the job", then How Stands the Glass Around would be more fast in its cadence, to serve as marching or drinking song. I have a feeling in camps this shit was sung in a jolly fashion..
"When Cannons Are Roaring" on the same album is fantastic tune! It sounds like a tune that would be very popular for reenactors
Oh, and there's also a metal version of the tune from the band 'Wilderun,' though...I am not sure why. It's a rather curious choice of source material for so shouty a song.
Hey man, thanks for the recommendation, I checked them out and I love the album it's on! Who would have thought metal and sea shanties would go so well together, but alas they do!
I actually think this version follows its source material quite good. I imagine the first part of the song, with clean vocals, to be sung by a veteran of war to some new recruits (boys) who are happy to go into battle. The pubsong sing-a-long vibe this part has really helps to that. The second part, with the grunting vocals, is wat the veteran says to the 'boys' during the battle when they realize the reality of war.
But that's just my interpretation
Take a listen to "F;&$ you with an anchor"
A week before their duel, a duel, aka an affair of honor, A. Hamilton sang that song at a fourth of July party, standing on a table with a blood thirsty Aaron Burr looking up while seated at the same table, duel already planned ahead at the time. Hamilton, commited suicide in this duel, letting duel kill two birds with one Stone, 1. Hamilton, 2. Burr's own political future and freedom.This is written about in Ron Chernow's biography of Alexander Hamilton.
Over The Hills and Far Away is a great tune
Indeed.
We are taught it in British army cadets if we are part if the rifles battalion
It's stuck in my head.
My favourite song.
My personal favorite is "Twa Recruiting sergeants" do a video on that!
The druids rendition doesn't sound 'forced' at all, it's sung like all English choral tunes.
I don't mean to say 'forced' in a negative sense here. Rather, when the words are sung, they seem somewhat harsher in tone, for example the second cry of "How stands the glass around?" or later plea of "Why, soldiers why?" It makes the song sound overall more hollow, morally speaking, or dark in tone than if the words were sung jovially.
One of my favorite melancholy tunes is "Just Before the Battle, Mother". It was very popular during the American Civil War, I believe. Even if it wasn't, I do love to sing it at reenactments.
I've always known the song as a Civil War one, as well. I love it too!
@@BrandonF Tenting on the old campground is a good one too. There's a video of it here on UA-cam where a reenactor sings it in a soulful manner, and nearly brings me to tears, every time.
This song reminds me of the southern song Lorena.
If I may make a humble suggestion:
Using "How Stands the Glass Around" as the ending tune for this video was very appropriate. However, I don't think it would fit well with some of your other, more lighthearted videos. Perhaps, you could you "How Stands the Glass Around" as the postlude for videos with serious or somber topics and use "The Girl I Left Behind Me" as the postlude on videos that are not all that serious or just for the fun of it.
Thanks for the video, Brandon! I've never heard this song before, and you introduced it to me excellently.
Oh, I don't plan to replace my usual outro, I just did this time for a more thematic approach! Figured it might be out of place to end on so sorrowful a note and then strike up the happy tune. And thank you!
I truly love The Girl I left Behind Me, such a beautiful song, and always reminds me of a special certain someone... ^_^
Which is why it has been so timeless, I am sure.
I've waited a long time for a video about this topic, its so interesting!
I'm glad to have filled the niche!
The Druids version is very lovely. I'll be adding this to my own folk music repertoire.
You My Friend are a class above... Well Done Sir...
Over the hills and far away is my fav
And a fine one it is!
Hello from Glasgow GB. Their was a chap called John tams who played sharpshooter Daniel hagman in the Tv series Sharpe. He sings some of these old ones that I think you may like. Rule Britannia!
Men of Harlech!
An excellent one!
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Call you Harlech men!
Thank you
My personal favorites come from the American Civil War some that come to mind are Lorena, Vacant Chair, Home Sweet Home, Tenting on the Old Campground, and several old Irish and English laments that's names escape me.
My favorite british song is "over the hills and far away" the gin lane queen Anne one
“Danny Deever” and “Follow me home” by Rudyard Kipling are both very good poems that were put to music during WWI. “Danny Deever” is about a military hanging and “Follow me home” is an artilleryman’s lament for his fallen comrade and his anger at a society and institution that treats them as expendable.
I'll be sure to look those up. Kipling is always brilliant! Thank you!
@@BrandonF Goodness, I don't mean to necro... But, for anyone interested in Kipling's poems, check out Peter Bellamy! He puts a lot of them to song, and he sings them well!
March of the Cameron men, Bonnie Dundee and The Lincolnshire Poacher have to be my favourites
I would love for you to explore/explain the experience of a drummer boy in an 18th century regiment. Tis the season.
In the war between the states there were songs that were banned. They caused meral to drop.
Was this also popular in the Napoleonic wars?
I'm not sure just how popular it was, but given that most of the lyrics which I found were recorded just after the Napoleonic Wars, I assume it had some healthy presence.
Hey would you mind making a episode about continental European soldiers ( frace, Prussia Austria, bavaria, Hanover etc...) during the 18th century ?
"Ich hatte einen Kameraden" "the good Comrade" is a German Soldiers Song from 1809 ua-cam.com/video/ehl6F90rj3U/v-deo.html
I've been planning to make a video about that one next in this little 'song' series, actually! It's a brilliant tune.
Does anyone know about the painting at 11:47?
+Jacob Dischert The images are taken from an old map of the British Empire. I took side decor out of the original and used them to frame my outro scene.
John Tams a actor in and a composer of the Sharpe TV series has a album "over the hills and far away", music from the series and songs of the period that I think you would enjoy
I'll look into that, thank you! Despite the black mark of 'Sharpe' that is!
Wasn't there a series of documentaries that proved that soldiers sang quote-unquote over the hills and far away quote on quote all day everyday in every way and even sometimes modified the tunes depending on what they were doing at the moment?
I'm not sure about that, but it was a popular tune as I understand it.
Brandon F. The singer in Sharpes Rifles does that, incorporated whatever they are doing into the tune of "Over the Hills"
Quick question but related to this but I'm 16 and I quite like the Napoleonic era of combat... and I recently bought some Napoleonic war figures to paint and such forth and I was wondering the head pieces other British and French where they sealskin or something else..? And is it bad I'm interested in Napoleonic warfare and such instead of video games and such forth?
Shakos were frequently given oilskin covers to protect them from rain.
I like the crags of mount tumbledown
I hadn't heard that one until now!
Brandon F. Modern-ish marches do exist, there are also some composed in Afghanistan
I do hate to ask so late, but does anyone know the title of the painting seen at 1:50- 2:15?
Does anyone know then name of the painting in the thumbnail?
What painting is that at 2:32? It's incredible! I would like to know who the artist was
Best marches of UK are liliburlero, Highland laddie, blue bonnets over the border and when the battle is over
Certainly they are all brilliant!
Check out John Tams, he sings a lot of old military songs.
DK 1692 sounds like tams singing, i know he guest vocals on alot of folk albums
Sounds like tams singing, he guest vocals on alot of folk albums
So I shall!
I always loved "Devil shall be my Sargent"
Hey Brandon, I have a replica of an 18th century fife. I can play a few tunes like Yankee Doodle and The British Grenadiers. Can you recommend some traditional British tunes I could learn on it?
"The Girl I Left Behind Me" is a lovely tune, and not too complicated!
I'll have to give it another try
I was extremely moved by the second rendition. Do you have a link to that version?
Yes, you can find a link in the description.
Edit: I see now that I accidentally linked the wrong version, there! The link has been corrected.
What does "sighing fye" mean? All I gwt is the acronym for the store
It's a general expression of anger or disgust, from what I looked up.
Brandon F. Makes sense
It makes more sense if you have the text:
"what, sighing? Fie!"
In the song, the soldier is showing disgust with the others' demeanor, which he finds inappropriate for their station in life. He expects them not to be so melancholy--just drown your sorrow in alcohol and a "kind landlady".
If "Affair of Honour" is a musical about the Hamilton and Burr duel, it's worth noting that accounts of the evening when Hamilton sung that song describe him as being affectionate and cheerful, while Burr was withdrawn and sullen. I don't think it's crazy to imagine that Hamilton sang it more like the Druids rendition, with a bit of cheeky bravado, especially considering his behavior on the duel grounds the next day.
As others have pointed out, it's possible that this was meant to be more of a "Blood on the Risers" kind of deal, where the mood mismatch between the melody and the lyrics is very deliberate. But also, just to muddy the waters a bit, modern ears aren't going to react to this tune the same way they did when it was created because we have been culturally primed to associate minor keys with sadness, and 18th century Englishmen probably weren't. When exactly and how the shift to minor=sad happened is still a hot topic in music history and at the least, the shift seems to have been uneven depending on where you lived at the time. It may have changed in England while the song was still popular.
This is all a long-winded way of saying that I don't really dig the amount of pathos in the second track. I don't think it's necessary and I think it's... possibly farby.
Links are to the same version
I thought that "the girl I left behind me" was 19th century
I remember stumbling across the Druids version with no prior knowledge of it. It chills to the bone with the classic twinge dark satirical humor classic to front line soldiers.
Not a great fan of the second rendition, I'm afraid. A bit too performative for my taste. And I'm a theatre person lol
Prussia glory march.mp4
great video, first version of the song was done better.
This was Alexander Hamilton 's favourite song
Jesus, was that written by an alcoholic veteran soldier?! How anyone could be inspired by such a depressing, poignant song is beyond me, I should think one needs to reflect upon themself if they find any cheer or comfort in this at all... That second version really did monkey with the lyrics though and definitely sounds like it was more meant for a dramatic play, something somewhat Les Mis, yet more low key? maybe not as musical? and really sounds better than the druid version...
just as paratroopers find inspiration and encouragement from 'gory, gory what a helluva way to die,' soldiers may find the same through this or other examples
a girl who wore a yellow ribbon
Your English is fine. You’d fit into upper class English society with ease.
lol what the hell. Are you kidding? They're soldiers. Have you ever been around soldiers? Those guys take macabre in good humor and high, sarcastic spirits. How Stands the Glass Around I think isn't as emo as people believe. If Blood on the Risers can serve as a testament about how soldiers view misfortune as "all part of the job", then How Stands the Glass Around would be more fast in its cadence, to serve as marching or drinking song.
I have a feeling in camps this shit was sung in a jolly fashion..
Maybe during peace, but almost certainly not during war.
@@Schattengewaechs99 You've never been around warfighters then.
@@EzekielDeLaCroix Have I not?