Thank you so much to everyone who took the time to fill out the survey! It was important to me to have different German voices heard in this video. What were your experiences like learning about World War II and the Holocaust? Did you go to school in Germany or somewhere else? Let me know in the comments!
Both sets of my grandparents were holocaust survivors from Hungary, my paternal grandparents lost most of their immediate families (parents, grandparents, siblings, in-laws, nephews and nieces) at the Holocaust (most of them in the Auschwitz gas chambers), my maternal grandparents' respective families mostly survived, and only went through the torturing and imprisonment parts of the Holocaust, but eventually survived.
There were a lot of tragedies in my country (Ukraine) due to it being one of the most suffered parts of USSR by Nazi occupation, and a place with the largest Jewish population in Soviet Union. But I feel like the most important here is to learn lessons about your nation dark pages, sometimes in a hard way. Russians carried genocide in 1933 in Ukraine and after world war II we've been told for 50 years that population decrease in Ukraine was caused only due to severe Nazi occupation (it did have millions of victims, but barely more than artificial famine in 1933). And ever since Russians denied their wrongdoings, which resulted in today's aggression.
My father was born in the 1940s. Which means my grandparents were around teenagers, early twenties during the war. I never asked about their experiences, I instinctively knew it would rip open wounds that had taken so long to heal a little. I know my grandfather was just a kid during that time. He didn't even know what he was forced into. I think if the tone is respectful and it's real interest behind the question, it's okay to ask. Just make sure the other side wants to talk about it at that moment.
30:28 That strongly depends on how it is represented. I had a lot of great discussions about WW2 and many other historical topics with people from all over the world. However...I've also met more than one person - mostly from the UK or the USA - who made insulting jokes or spoke about the topic in a "we are the good guys, you Germans are evil" way while at the same time completely disregarded the crimes committed by the British Empire (including genocides committed by the British btw) or the USA (like the nuclear attacks against Hiroshima and Nagasaki, both of which where civilian targets, not military) in discussions about history in general. This is deeply concerning, especially in regards to the political development in both the UK (Brexit which gave right wing groups and xenophobes a huge push in the UK and Trump in the USA).
I was born in the mid 1960ies. One of my grandfathers was a soldier in WWII. He didn't sugarcoat anything about his experiences and his own actions which weren't very exceptional. He voluntarily became a soldier in 1939 and fought in Poland, France, USSR and Italy. His brother, however, tried to avoid becoming a soldier which caused him to suffer bad consequences. A sister of my grandfather disappeared in a psychiatric clinic at the end of 1939. I had already learned a couple of things about the war itself and a little more or less baised bit about the Nazi era from my older relatives when the topic was dealt in history lessons. I was really lucky to have a teacher who had prepared different aspects of that matter very considerately and thoroughly. In fact his lessons about earlier periods of history had been very interesting for me already. The visit to the concentration camp Dachau was particularly impressive because our guide had been imprisoned in Dachau three times and was liberated by the US army in 1945. He was a member of the social democratic party and had been "working underground" for the resistance against the Nazis in Munich. For my generation it seems that education about the Third Reich and the Holocaust was depending on the school and the teacher quite significantly. And I remember that there have been a few parents complaining about that matter being treated in school at all. The entire field of Weimar Republic, Third Reich/Nazi era and the Holocaust was dealt with during around 18 months. Hence there was enough time left for looking at other periods of history like medieval times, Martin Luther and the Reformation, the 30 years war, the French Revolution, Napoleon and the Congress of Vienna, Industrialisation, the German Revolution of 1848, etc. Looking back I'm impressed of all the stuff we've been learning about in school. However I think all of that is important because it shows that in the long run German history shows a path of progress despite several serious setbacks.
As an American, it sounds to me like a lot of Germans have a strong distinction between blame and responsibility. The attitude seems more forward looking than backward looking, like 'we're not going there again.' Which I respect. I wish my own country could address some of our dark chapters as well.
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I agree that the dark chapters in America should be talked about more in a reality based way. Not in the anonymous guilt-trip laden trash that is so often thrown around the Internet.
I can only speak as an American but I think Germany has done an exceptional job of tackling this very difficult topic. I also think it's incumbent on people EVERYWHERE to learn how/why it happened and ensure it's never allowed to happen again. There are plenty of wannabe authoritarians out there, it's not a Germany-specific threat, and we need to make sure those hard-learned lessons aren't forgotten as time passes.
As a German that has that fear: thank you. Yes, it's not just one county, not just one nation. It's all around the world and we need the education about that era so it won't happen again.
Also American here, and thank you Feli for sharing this, it's something I'd wondered about often. I agree that Germany seems to be doing a very good job of handling its past, which is something America could learn from as we try to grapple with our own past of racism and chattel slavery. I feel like we are where Germany was in the 1960s with a younger generation wanting to be more open and honest about some of the less savory aspects of American history.
As a German, I can also thank the Americans. Especially after the Allies won. The help in rebuilding, but also (and in my experience even more important) that the trials were public and people were not simply sentenced behind closed doors. I think that also helped a lot to develop an awareness of what crimes were being committed at that time.
Thank you, Sarah. I always thought we did quite a good job here as well. But over 70 years later we have to experience that our government is reluctant to do everything they possibly can to prevent another genocide. I always thought "Never again" ("Nie wieder") was a moral imperativ. But suddenly there are people telling me this slogans only mean German cruelties and we shouldn't support any kind of war at all. They don't express it that way, of course, but what they mean is "just let Ukrainians die and as soon as the last of them is gone, there will be peace". As strange as it is, both of our far-right and our far-left want us to stop supporting Ukraine. Luckily, both of them, even combined, are a minority. Nevertheless, I don't understand why we don't do anything we can to support Ukraine. Because of course, it's the right thing to do (and I feel the pain Ukrainians suffer everyday), and yes, also because it's better for our economic future. And our social and cultural future. And maybe, of future at all. I mean, does Russia offer any future? They want to re-establish the past. They really have nothing attractive to offer. And, as a German, growing up educated the way described in this video, I do feel a special responsibility. I'm sorry, this was too long, but somehow Feli's vid made me so emotional I had to get out all of it. Slava Ukraini!
@@michanone Well one nation was not responsible in the death of 50 million people. Germany started the war which turned out to be a catastrophe. However it was the German State. One can't blame all private citizens. However one should not forget or attempt to whitewash it.
As a Russian, I wish our schools have adopted yours' approach teaching how such a thing can happen at all and recognize the red flags early. Instead they taught us how bad Germans were and how heroic Russians were fighting against the invasion and how we suffered immensely but eventually won the war. Which made sense (and also bored most of us), but kinda missed the main point: how to avoid creating the same horror. Now this "heroic fight against the nazi" narrative that was programmed into us is being used as a trigger to suddenly hate some claimed-to-be-nazis in Ukraine, all the way to actually going and killing innocent people. It seems that our education system that programmed us to hate nazi and be proud of our nation as winners has as a result actually produced something very similar in our own country... And yeah, thank you for covering this topic, I was never sure if it's ok to talk to German people about it!
The Great Patriotic War, which began when Germany invaded The Soviet Union, and lasted until the Germans were pushed out of the Soviet Union was a defensive war, the invasion of Ukraine is not! Now I feel that Russians fought harder when they were defending their own country from invasion than when they were invading someone else's. Russians and other Soviet Nationals could see the reason why they were fighting the Germans. Right now its the Ukrainians that are defending their homes, and the Russians that are occupying their country, a lot of the Russians don't want to be there, they left their peaceful homes and families to go fight in a foreign country to satisfy Putin's imperial ambitions, so they die in order to make Putin into "Putin the Great" although that does not appear to be happening right now, Russians are just getting killed over there. All Russia has to do is get rid of Putin and withdraw its troops, the soldiers can go home and resume their civilian lives, and the West can lift sanctions after an agreement for Russia to pay reparations to Ukraine for the damages it caused. I want those reparations to be affordable, that is its purpose is to rebuild Ukraine, not to wreck the Russian economy, we don't want to repeat that mistake the Allies made with Germany after World War I. The United States can help as well, we can start by rebuilding that dam that Russia blew up. I think those houses that were destroyed in the flood zone should not be rebuild and the residents there should be relocated and the flood zone should be turned into a national park. We should rebuild the dam as quickly as safely possible. The environmental impacts have already oc.cured, so all that's left is to rebuild that dam
I guess they don't teach the part in Russia where the Bolshevik NKVD taught their National Socialist allies in Poland from 1939-41 how to slaughter people and turned Jews over to them for disposal.
@@thomaskalbfus2005 You are correct. Although I have no idea how Russian can get rid of Putin at this point. It's like saying to Germans in 1940 that all they have to do is to get rid of Hitler. I personally hope that this stupid war will fracture the inner powers enough to make him lose and fall, although it seems rather hard given the efficiency and power of the security agencies and the propaganda machine. Wrecking Russian economy is not a potential consequence of reparations, but is already a result of Russian government being in power for the last decades and doing everything to ruin it, starting the war obviously being the last nail in the coffin. Which will probably mean having to give in to external interests, like letting China help Russia out for a number of long-term benefits in return. Just like the help of the US to Ukraine will probably not come without consequences.
Superbly done! Thank you. Years ago, I was involved in a project that took me to West Germany. I met many wonderful people there. One of them, a gracious man who spoke excellent English, invited me to dinner at his home. I was delighted to go. I met his wife and his two small children. After dinner and sending his young ones off to bed, my host asked me if I had ever visited Germany. I told him that this was my first visit. He asked if any of my family had visited Germany. I thought for a moment, then told him that my father nearly made it to Germany in World War 2 but that he didn’t make it. During the liberation of Luxembourg City in late 1944, a panzerfaust destroyed his tank. He was severely wounded. My host froze. I was confused. “I’m sorry,” I said, “Did I say something upsetting?” My host replied, “I was in a Wehrmacht anti-tank unit in Luxembourg City when the American tanks came in September 1944. I used the panzerfaust.” His wife began to softly cry. Confused, I asked him, “How could that have been possible? You would have been a child in September 1944.” “I was ten years old.” “…and you were a German soldier?” He nodded. Lost in thought and trying to make sense of our situation, it was a while before we again spoke. We swore an oath, committing ourselves to resist wars and ensure that we and our children would never fight each other. That commitment and my high regard for that remarkable man continue to this day.
This brought tears to my eyes. For the millions who lost their lives (on both sides) and the beauty of two sides, once enemies, who now choose peace and forgiveness.
@@Felix-f2m4g The Bridge (Die Brucke) is a very moving film, about this. The misery that followed immediately after the war was just as bad, as depicted by Rossellini's "Germany, Year Zero" (Italian neorealism, meaning it was filmed in Berlin's ruins, using local non-professional actors).
@@ken_caminiti zou know that in 1933 there was no holocaust in those early days of the nazis they just tryed to get rid of the jews by discriminating against them or by trying to get them to leave the country like it is the case with the Ha’avara-Abkommen because of people like you who denile such tragig things like the holocaust and are imagening some kind of jewish secret conspirecy history is bound to repeat it selve
My father fought in World War II under General Patton. He lived in New Jersey after the war. His neighbor, across the street, was Herb Kracker. Herb's father fought for Germany in World War II. There was great concern about the two meeting one another since my father met weekly with others from what America calls the Battle of the Bulge. However, when they did met, they became fast friends over having fought in a war. Most men did not fight due to politics, they fought to stay alive. My father and Herb's father understood one another. They both endured the hell of fighting in a war to stay alive.
Many Germans went to the US after WW2 in Operation Paperclip. Many high ranking and wealthy Americans agreed with the Germans. Heck, there was almost a coup called The Business Plot in 1933 where wealthy industrialists attempted to overthrow FDR and install a fascist dictatorship. They didn't succeed then but if you look at the names of some of the plotters, you might realize who actually won. Many have said Germany lost the war but fascism won.
My great uncle was shot multiple times in the battle of the bulge as an American. He spent two years being rehabilitated in Europe. He later became an attorney in Delaware county PA. He wrote legislation to create the juvenile justice system to protect kids from the adult system. My grandmother told me he would say in private that the Holocaust was an outright myth as well.
@@anaguma90 surrounded by those of the same species- not increasingly seeing strange faces of an alien race.. have you ever been to an all white town? It’s quiet, it’s safe, it’s high trust and higher fellowship. That ends when invaders enter the scene.
Thank you so much for making this. I was born in the UK, to an English mother and Polish-Jewish father. My father and his family fled Poland in Sep 1939 as refugees and re-settled in England. I was born in '71, so I'm 53 as I wrote this. In High school I learned German for three years, much to my father's dismay. As an adult, one of my closest friends is a German guy exactly my age, from Munich also, co-incidentally. One day, a few years ago, he and I were discussing how widespread some languages are, and I observed that German is not widespread like French or Spanish, being pretty much limited to Germany and Austria. His response turned my blood to ice. In a deadly serious manner he said "Not for lack of trying". I'm still friends with that guy - he was the best man at my wedding - but that one remark he made years ago has made me question Germans' attitudes to WWII ever since then. Your video has given me a lot more peace in this regard, so thank you.
History has been written by the lying victors ... Churchill hated the Germans and their success and stated, he wanted to destroy the philosophy of Schiller and Goethe !!! With that attitude in mind, they destroyed the indigenous Europeans ... please search Hooton, Kalergi, Kaufmann and Nizer Plan ... Germans didn't write these Plans 😢 Napoleon once said that the Germans are too docile ... did Germans start over 200 wars in the whole world?? If people don't rethink that whole era / time, the white race will be history😢😢
the silly hats detroyed Poland...Murdered the Russians, Poles, Ukrainians. Then the Germans... Pole are not a part of the tribe. They destroyed Poland, like their doing to England, Europe and America today..Same people up to no good.
I lived in Germany for three years while in the US army. This was in the 80s. I was dating a German girl and she took me to visit her grandmother. While there, her grandmother got upset about modern politics and blurted out, “We just need another Hitler.” My girlfriend looked at me and said, “Time to go!!” lol. I really miss that girl.
I would like to say thank you for this video. I am a first generation child of a survivor. My father, who is still alive and celebrated his 99th birthday last month, is a survivor of Auschwitz and my mother was a survivor of Theresienstadt. My parents were always very open with me and anyone else who would listen, about what they went through. My parents had occasion to speak in several German schools to the students about their experiences in the camps. I remember my father telling me that when the bell went off for the end of class, not a single student, in any of the classes he spoke in, moved a muscle. I found that comforting, that the students wanted to hear and wanted to learn about their past. I live in the US and I wish we had the courage to confront out past they way you have confronted yours. I think it could have prevented so much grief and pain. Thank you for taking the time to address this.
Disgusting! I spent my school years in several German schools. None of what she cleims s is true! The students are taught that only the Nazis were to blame! It is claimed that there were only a few Nazis in Germany and that the German population were actually victims of the Nazis. Of course, the truth is not taughthat the vast majority of the population were followers and supporters of the Nazi government and also took part in the crimes, thus they were Nazis. Teachers constantly talk about Nazis in history classes. But not about the Germans, as would be historically correct. It's obvious why! The nation should be freed from guilt!
I can’t thank you enough for discussing this part of your country’s history and how it is taught. You are very articulate and educated. I’m 52 years old (French American), so I can only judge by what I’ve learned in school and from reading books on the subject. My mom was 8 years old when the Western Allies liberated France. My grandparents had mostly negative experiences but I need to share a story about my mom’s older sister who was a teenager during the war. Early every morning, she would leave her house to buy bread at the local bakery. She was followed each morning by a German soldier. She was obviously frightened. The uniforms alone were intimidating. One day he stopped her and in broken French he told her that it wasn’t safe for a young girl to be out alone at such an early hour and that he followed her to ensure her safety. Even as I type this, tears of gratitude and love are pouring down my cheeks. I want to hate Germans but I can’t AND won’t let myself as it’s not fair or right. The most heinous of crimes were committed by truly evil people and they can be found everywhere in every era of the world! Most soldiers were just doing as they were ordered. I AM happy (can’t think of a better word, sorry) that Germans are taught the unbiased truth of the past and I sincerely pray that the people of this beautiful nation are able to see it for what it is without the unduly guilt. Alix from Karlsruhe (I’ve visited that city 🇩🇪) said it most poignantly. “Young people often feel guilty even though they had nothing to do with it. But that doesn’t change anything. INSTEAD IT’S OUR JOB TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN’T HAPPEN AGAIN.” That’s the job of EVERY citizen of this world!!!
This is one of the finest works on UA-cam. It is incredibly well done. As someone who is 50 percent German descent, 25 percent Jewish Polish descent, and 25 percent Polish descent who lost many Jewish relatives and 5 civilian Polish Catholic relatives in WWII, that the pain is lasting but it gradually diminishes over generations. I can remember visiting with my German relatives in the 1980’s and being surprised at the number of my relatives who had portraits of WWII German soldiers in their living rooms. They were of my relatives who were had been killed in WW II. The pain of their loss to my relatives was very real and lasting also. At that time it was still too sorrowful to talk about it. But my relatives wanted to me in passing that WW II was an epic personal tragedy for them also. I commend you for your professionalism and objectivity in sharing the German perspective on WW II.
Great Video Topic Feli! I have wanted to hear exactly this topic discussed by a German from a German perspective. This was one of your best videos yet! Thanks so much-
What a great video covering this topic Feli. Thank you for giving the subject the respect and acknowledgement that it deserves. Probably one of my favorite videos of yours yet. As some other commenters have already mentioned, my hope is that in the US we treat our country's historical tragedies with the same amount of coverage and respect so these things never happen again.
I very much appreciate everything you shared about the war, the holocaust and the German people. I especially appreciate the responses of Germans living in Germany today. As a Jewish man these issues are very important to me. You a very fine young lady, and I'm encouraged by your sincere commitment to educating others. Again I thank you so much for all your efforts. Blessings!
Holy s*** I can't believe that you said people in the '60s people of Germany started demanding that their elders take responsibility for what happened during the war Oh my God Feli thank you for telling me this ... I never fathom such a thing and I'm so glad to hear this These are men and women of conscience ... Thank God!
I'm from Poland so this topic is very hard for me. Almost 20% (around 6 million people) of Polish people were killed and our land was brutally occupied. Now we have another war just on the other side of our eastern border. Like you said: War is the worst thing invented by human kind. Thanks for your video. Hopfully we all learn from our history.
Learn from history? Not so much in Poland, one of the most antisemitic countries in the world despite having almost no Jewish population since WWII ended.
It was indeed hard for the poles, as the nazis commited war crimes against poles, but The nazis did not target poles. The Nazis targeted Jews, and alot of poles helped them. Jews were not poles, neither the Jews in poland or the ethnic poles seen the jews as polish.
whats hard for you? She has said only about holocaust like they like to do. Nothing about the true victim, Poland. This Jews were polish. Our country was destroyed and robbed. If you ask some random German he will tell you that polish people were collaborating with Nazis xD thats what they know about ww2
My Polish friend always says he wish the German had won cause Russia was even worst to you then germans. War isnt a human thing, its a monkey thing. All monkeys go at war against other monkey clans. We are just an hairless ape🤷
Feli, what a marvelous ambassador of good will and understanding you are. This video is a gem; thank you for creating it. You struck an almost magical tone of forthrightness and realism. I'm an American Jew who grew up in the 1950's when WWII was still thick in the air. "What did your dad do during the war?" was constantly discussed among American boys growing up in the post-war era. You have humanized and demystified an important subject from the "other side" whom American kids rarely heard from. You are a shining example of goodness rising from the ashes of destruction.
This was a very interesting discussion. I am 56 years old, raised in the Chicago, Illinois area, and I am Jewish. Highland Park, the city I grew up in, and the surrounding area have many Jews and Jewish communities. In 1979 I was in seventh grade. When the TV mini series you mentioned, the Holocaust, aired on American TV over four nights, we shifted from our normal homework to being assigned to watch the entire show. We had homework assignments and in class discussions all about it. This was an era in the United States in which Holocaust documentaries began to emerge showing us the true horrors of the persecution of Jews and others in WWII Germany. Despite the brutal imagery, I watched everything I could find, as did most other people I knew. Then, a most curious thing happened to me. My father worked for Abbott Labs, based in Northern Illinois but with facilities around the world. He was a project manager and was working on a new facility in Wiesbaden. He traveled back and forth to Germany for about a year before announcing to us we would be moving near Frankfurt for 14 months. I was incredibly excited for this new adventure. I excitedly informed my classmates of our impending move. I was taken aback by their reaction. "You're moving where the Nazis are?!? Why would you ever do that?" It had been 35 years since the end of the war, The United States had numerous military bases all around West Germany and it was common knowledge that being stationed there was a desirable deployment for American service men and women. Despite being only 12 years old, I was very aware Deutschland was a staunch ally and respected trading partner of the US. I had difficulty believing my classmates could be so anxious about my move. When we arrived in Germany, our neighbors in Steinbach im Taunus were lovely. There were many children around my age in the neighborhood and we had great fun playing American football (using what was an alien object to them, a Nerf football,) and fußball. We rode our bikes all over town, went to the local pool, and played tag and other games. We never, ever discussed the war. My neighbors were fully aware of our being Jewish, but to my knowledge we never asked them about their war experience or their parents involvement, and they never asked us about our family history. For the record, although as a Jew I feel strongly about what happened in the Holocaust, my grandparents and great-grandparents (with the exception of one grandfather's parents) had immigrated to the US before WWI. I'm unaware who, if any of my family tree were direct victims of the Nazis To my knowledge, I have no ancestors who died in the camps. It did occur to me that these wonderful people, our friends, could very easily have family who were complicit in the crimes of the Nazis, but I refused to judge them on anything other than their kind treatment of me and my family. We took a family trip that included Dachau. It was certainly moving to see the displays of iconic pictures I'd seen before of starving inmates and the ovens that were used to dispose of bodies, but that was not the most emotionally impactful memories I have of our visit. Rather, walking through the barracks, which at that time at least had the three high, bunk bed frames spaced so closely together, left an indelible impression on me. The thought of so many people, crammed in such a small space, really affected me. I'm glad Germany has chosen to educate its children about the sins of the past to prevent them from ever being allowed to thrive in our future. I wish I could say the same for the US, which in many places has worked to whitewash our history of the sins of our own past. In recent years it's only gotten worse as white nationalist politicians parade themselves as average Americans, stirring up rage in constituents over race and religion. Thank you, very much, for tackling this head-on. I didn't need to hear from Germans how they view the Holocaust and how it's taught in Germany, but I'm glad so many of you have been affected in a positive way by learning about horrors perpetrated by Adolph Hitler and the Nazi Party.
I had anexperience similar in SW France. We became friendly with a lovely belgian lady married a second time to a considerable older cultured & intelligent German husband. They knew my background vaguely and in the course of conversations I became aware he was an obligatory member of the Hitler Youth. I knew of the HY but not that much. When I delved into it I appreciated he like most HY were actively involved in the likes of attacking German Jews during Crystal Nacht November 1938 and generally tormenting the Jews. Was I wrong not to ask him of his past? Probably but in a social context in small rural area ? I still feel a bit guilty
I disagree with your stance on the US whitewashing slavery. It is taught, but not taught to the extent that WWII & Nazi Germany is in Germany. WWII ended in 1945. Slavery in the United States ended officially in 1865. Slavery was horrible and a stain on the entire world. No, slavery was not just a US issue. As the United States was embroiled in the American Civil War, many European countries started to outlaw slavery. Yes, slavery did happen in many countries of Europe.
@fantasticsound Great to hear of your experience. Thank you. @gordon spicer No wrong or right here. I think you likely learned more about this man, and people in general, by being non-confrontational and observing how he reacted to you as a human being.
So 'white nationalism" is evil but Israel ethno nationalism is good? It's a well known fact that Israel conducts DNA tests for those applying for Israel¡ citizenship. Please tell us, what color skin do Israel¡ politicians have?
Feli. I appreciate your informative handling of a very difficult subject. I'd like to share a perspective as an American, son of a World War II army veteran. My father landed in Normandy and was a tank crewman all the way to Salzburg, Austria. He was haunted by his experiences for the rest of his life. My parents educated me about Nazism from a very young age and hated what it stood for. When I was in the third or fourth grade I asked my father whether he hated the German soldiers he had fought. His reponse was no. They had been drafted (conscripted) just as he had been and were obligated to serve their country as was he. I'm sharing this because I was taught not to believe in group guilt and certainly not inherited guilt. I admire what you are doing. It is important to remember and openly discuss history. That having been said, I don't feel any young German nor nearly every old one should feel guilt for what happened in the war. There were guilty individuals certainly who are nearly all dead now. Actually, to confer something like guilt to a group of people not based on anything but an ethnic characteristic is the essence of Nazism itself. Germans today should carry no stigma.
Exceptionally well done. As a retired U.S. military officer I spent quite a bit of time in Germany and had the opportunity to visit several of the locations you mentioned. They were all respectful and thoughtful memorials to the people affected. Your video also covered these issues very well. Thanks!
Thx Feli, that was great❗im 65yo 🇺🇸 man and I've been fascinated with WW2 since I was a kid. I've learned lots from my random following of your channel. I think I would say you and Germans are on the right track. I think you are a generation that should shed any guilt you might feel but never forget the lessons of the past. ALL people's and nations have ugly past. The secret for me has been to not let my passions become radicalized. . . you have a level head, keep that sister.please continue on you're doing good work!
Proud of the German people for facing what happened there. When I was 16 yrs old I was sitting on a park bench in the Bronx. An older lady came over and started to talk to me about her experience as a prisoner in a concentration camp. This was in 1975 or so. She showed me the numbers tattoo on her arm. It helped me change my perspective and as I look back I can only love that sweet old lady that took 20 minutes or so to share her story.
Don’t beat yourselves up too much . Although not mentioned there were large numbers of Poles , Russians , and Gypsies, homosexuals. And many other not mentioned by Spielberg. Probably the “man on the spot” was George Patton. Interestingly he was court martialled after the war because of the large amount of god he has acquired.???? Regards.
About Americans being more informed about the military aspects of the war. I notice in American book stores "history" is mostly books on military history. I'm not sure this is a good thing. About education and popular culture, what I'm hearing that it increasingly dominated by people who despise the hoi poli and want to guilt trip them into accepting "punishment" ( cruelty ) from their "betters". It's also becoming more apparent that our rulers are also pedophiles. America has changed. From Potsdam to Nordstream America has gone from Cincinnatus to Caligula.
As a 54 years old German, I do agree on every single word. This is 100% in line with my experience. Couldn' t be explained in a better way. Thanks a lot! The most impressive memorial for me in everyday life is the constant reminder on all paths through the stumbling stones. Also the constant exchange with the old hereditary enemy France and a visit to the wonderful neighbours, e.g. in Alsace, make us understand the value of the European Union today. Never before have we had such a long period of peace in Europe. A visit to the battlefields of Verdun helps to appreciate this value.
You DO remember it was France who declared war upon Germany, right? You DO remember they INVADED Germany in 1939, right? You DO remember they invaded Germany in 1925, right? Yet, you feel bad about Germany attacking France? Seriously? Please learn about the Versailles Treaty, how it bled Germany dry, for a war Germany never started.
As a Kiwi born in England, of British ancestry, I am so disappointed that the English have chosen a Brexit divorce. High time they realized that their best future is to work with Germany and France to make a better world.
@@peternewman7940 It is people like you who destroy Britain. Did you know Britain and Germany fund by far the largest chunk of the EU payments, yet the unelected body of the EU can order Britain around? As you can see, I am an Nationalist of the highest order. I would go much, much further than Brexit. Are you to suggest a freed Britain cannot work with Germany and France? Why not? They have for almost a thousand years. What changed kid?
@@peternewman7940 'As a Kiwi born in England, of British ancestry' WTF? What esle would you be if not of British ancestry my little anti-White racist??
As a german who is just finishing off my higher education (Fachabitur), I can very clearly remember how much the teachings of the subject affected me. We mostly discussed it in german class, history class and PoWi (Politics and Economy in english), which is actually a subject that was formed to keep awareness of our country's former actions. I remember us reading "the wave" in german class and then watching the movie. We also watched "Schindler's List" and "The boy in the striped pjama" the latter having quite a big impact on me. We also watched many documentations in history class and talked thoroughly about it in PoWi, especially the actions to change germany after the war. Visiting the Dachau holocaust was also mandatory, although I need to admit that I myself did not join my class on this trip. For a couple of years, the mere though of especially the holocaust brought tears to me and therefore me and my parents decided that I had a good enough impression of the horrors of the whole situation. The topic was always discussed in quite a brutal way, that conveyed responsibility and guilt. It has now been 3-4 years since we first watched those movies that left such a big impression on me and I feel ready to talk about this. I have to say, writing this now makes me feel emotional all over again. But it was a good experience to watch this video. I actually remained silent through out, maybe out of respect for the topic or out of a sense of guilt for the past. Although I know that no one in my generation or even my parent's generation is directly responsible for any of this, it is still a topic that is often discussed with regrets. Now with the incline of voters for the AfD (a german right-wing political party) I feel scared for the future. I know that is very likely that no one will ever find this comment (the video has almost 16 thousand comments as of writing this), but it felt important to make it. Even if just to get it off of my chest. Thanks for listening. - Amy (18) from Kassel, Hessen, Germany
I can tell you what we don't get teached. We don't get teached that over 12 million german civilians got expropriated and expelled from their homeland after ww2 and that hundredthousands of Germans got killed even AFTER the capitulation on Mai 1945. We don't get teached the details of the Versaille treaty and the consequences for the germans, we don't get teached the details of the system of "Re-education" and we don't get teached about the lost sovereignty and the still existing US Sonderrechte and UN Feindstaatklausel.
The history story of the former enemies who burned millions of women and children alive with phosphorus, napalm, and atomic bombs is guaranteed to be true. Guaranteed. How dumb can someone be?
Why is the report by the International Red Cross on its activities in the German camps during WW2 locked away in the Geneva archives and not publicly accessible? WHY?
Feli, thank you so much for your honesty and frankness concerning the NAZI period. I am not one of those Americans who would beat up on you for your birthplace or nationality. I believe that people should be willing to forgive, but never forget the horrors that occurred during that time. In the course of my engineering career, I worked with many Germans, and I found them to be kind, understanding, and quite joyful to know. I am so thankful that we can now be friends without worry of prejudice of the past. God bless you, young lady.
This is not your usual format of videos that I've happily watched and I was somewhat apprehensive about what might come out from your survey, but Feli, this was a fantastically written piece, with quality research and insight from your fellow country-people. In the UK, we learned much about WWII and we did have many discussions about the battles and the Holocaust, but certainly not with the levels of intensity described in your video. Thank you so much for doing this video in such a suitable and respectful manner, as I would never have known how our fellow European neighbours had learned about such sensitive subjects. As you say, the Holocaust survivors are now fewer and whilst I never got to hear one speak, my children did at their school and I'm so pleased about that, as we can all learn about tolerance and respect in our modern society, especially in world within which we currently live. 👌
We were priviledged enough to have one come and speak at our middle school whilst we were reading Anne Frank: Diarry of a young girl. It was an eye opening experience.
Thank you for sharing this. I wish Japan would take this same honest approach to their history starting from the late 1800s to the end of WWII. The atrocities they committed against their neighbors was similarly heinous but what's more surprising is how many modern-day Japanese have NO idea of the atrocities committed nor the scope of said atrocities by Imperial Japan. It's not about assigning blame or inducing guilt, but learning from past mistakes so that history does not repeat itself (ensure everlasting peace).
Such policies are mostly only there for inducing guilt on the people of the losing side's countries. After all, I see almost no Russians feeling sorry for the mass rapes and murders commited upon german civilians after the red army drung into german core territory.
Maybe all the Japanese Billionaires and Millionaires OUGHT TO spend ALL of their fucking money turning AT LEAST ONE Philippine City into a SAFE AND PROSPEROUS ONE!!! No Japanese deserves to be a Millionaire or a fucking Billionaire until the Philippines and Brunei are FIRST WORLD FUCKING NATIONS!!!
Young people in Japan may not have a thorough knowledge of the specifics of their nations history, but they have more awareness than probably any other nations surrounding the concept that a severe lack of certain values led to one of their darkest and most shameful points in history. The Japanese are very in touch with this, they just don’t have a culture that proliferates guilt on these matters. It’s a completely different country today. Different government, military, social classes, cultural values etc have all been dramatically reformed to prevent similar occurrence in their future. Honestly very few countries if any have done as much to prevent the crimes of their past being propagated in the future. Just because a country promotes cross generational shame doesn’t mean that they will avoid the same pitfalls of 20th century that all the axis powers fell in to. It really helps to understand what has to take place at a national level psychologically for any of the 20th century nightmares to take place. Many countries which push the whole “guilt needs to be a main driver into the future” are currently at risk of acting out a lot of what we’ve seen in the early to mid 20th century. There’s a lot data and social science on this matter which is thoroughly corroborated by modern and historical geopolitical sciences. This honestly sounds like the kind of well mannered anti-Japanese rhetoric that comes out of modern day China which is usually through some sort of emotional appeal to morality and judgment. China is actually one of the countries where “progress” is heavily driven by fear and guilt, and when you think about it you can really start to understand where this sort of rhetoric comes from in the first place. None of what you’re saying here is very well supported by reality. Japan has stripped itself of the military capability to commit such crimes in the future. They’ve infused their economy with literally enemies to their freedom in order to prevent future crimes as well. If you ask Japanese students to tell you about specifics dates and battles of their WWII crimes they probably can’t give you many details, but they will be able to tell you what lack of cultural values weren’t present during those times and why they hold them so dear now. They will all tell you that this specific version of Japan from the 20th century was literally aligned with evil, and they utterly reject the ideologies of those times in a way that few nations have been capable of. Most modern Germans probably can’t tell you why so many Germans supported the Nazis during their reign. This subject has honestly done more to advance modern psychology and psychoanalysis than any other single subject and again there is just a ton of data which can support the points I’m making. I guarantee there will be a response to this comment in vicious defense of China that proceeds to say something like “well what about America doing XYZ” because that’s literally what people are trained to say in response to a comment like mine in a discussion like this. We call these sorts of actors of the communist party wumao or members of the 50 cent army.
The links between USA and the rise of the nazis party to stop communist in the east thats another topic of henesty Henry Ford factory was used to produce engins for the germans
I'm Polish, so this topic is obviously discussed at schools, I remember learning about it around the age of 16. We watched movies, read books, poems and diaries about this topic, but we also learned about Hitler, how it all progressed and what were the exact steps during the war, tactics and artillery used. Very little was said about what happened to Germany after the war, as our focus shifted to Poland being under communist rule. I am living in Warsaw in the area heavily impacted by the war, and there are lots of memorials (mostly from Warsaw Ghetto, Warsaw Concentration Camp and Warsaw Uprising), so it's hard to miss that either way.
After the end of WW2 Poland was under communist rule? That's quite interesting. I'm not sure if it's something I learned at school but forgot, or didn't learn at all. You have to admit it's ironic. Whatever your thoughts on AH, he did intend to rid Europe of Communism, and many expert's, both back then and in today's days say Germany was pushed into a war that AH said never wanted. Curiously of all the peace proposals from AH, all mentioned that Germany would remove their troops from the invaded lands. They were always rejected by the great churchill who admited wanting the war. churchill was so enamored with Poland, and wanted to protect your homeland from the horrible nazis so much that after they capitulated your nation, he never once thought about you guys again. He only needed you so he could start the war in the first place. Thankfully your country won the fight against the communist plague and is now an amazing place for Poles to live in. It's more than I can say for my country.
@@MilkmanPT Well yes, up until 1989 actually. Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact left Poland divided between Nazi Germany and Soviet Union. Once Germany lost the war and was retreating from Poland, Soviet Union assumed control over the country (Poland attempted to fight for their sovereignty with Warsaw Uprising - this was when the Germany still had control over the city, but right before the Red Army came - yet failed miserably). Our nation is feisty but was never particularly lucky with neighbours nor allies. All those events unfortunately still haunts us and our politics are heavily fear-based to this day (For example during elections connecting politicians with either Russians or Germans to use as an argument against voting for them, etc)
Guten Tag aus Cincinnati. I’m also a transplant to Cincinnati, but only from Michigan. I had the opportunity to visit Germany in high school. Munich is a great city. Dachau was tough to see because it was so tangible. The stumbling stones were interesting to learn about. I’m sure I’ve seen them in Europe and not noticed the significance. I was glad to see Karina’s response that she wasn’t taught to feel guilty. Americans have a dark past as well through the slave trade. We must acknowledge and move forward from the past. Your video bridges the gap in cultures and helps bring unity to a world that needs more of that. Thank you.
The more I watch these, the more I notice your attributes that are just as you describe Germans… direct, precise thorough, no filler small talk.. also fearless on topics! Thanks very the history summary! Wonderful👌
Hi Feli, thanks for an excellent video on this sensitive topic. As an Israeli who’s worked with many Germans (still do) and has visited Germany many times for both work and leisure, I’ve always found Germans to be well informed on this topic. Most Germans living today are of course not to blame for what their grandparents or great grandparents did, but knowing the facts and accepting the historical context is important. Whenever the Holocaust was brought up, it was always by my German counterparts who were either curious about my family history in that regard, or simply wanted to broach the topic and address what they thought was the elephant in room (it isn’t, I don’t feel compelled to ask every German I meet about it…) I wish other countries were as honest and astute about teaching their unrevised histories as Germany is about this topic.
I had no idea Germany was so forthcoming about that sad time! Thank you! I wish my country (America) was so forthcoming in its own affairs. Instead we try to change the narrative so it doesn't appear so bad. Even to this day with all the infighting in Congress. I didn't think something like Hitler could happen again but Putin scares me. Thank you for your stories, I'm half German but not born there, my grandfather was but never spoke to my father about it. I sometimes feel a little guilty about it too. I honestly couldn't believe people could do such things. Until I saw dudes in south central L.A. beat people up with no compunction, remorse or tinge of humanity on there faces. I had someone rob me with a gun in my face and the look on his face was cold, uncaring and terrifying. So watch out, people can still be like that. In this day and age, with all the history to look back on you'd think that wouldn't be the case. Sorry I'm rambling but you put so many thoughts in my head, forgive me.
Dankeschön 🥲das du so großartig und detailliert zusammengefasst hast was uns 🇩🇪 auf dem Herzen liegt. Ich bin 42, mein Opa ist im Krieg gewesen und mit 93 gestorben, er hat erst nach den 90'ern die schrecklichen dinge erzählt die gewesen sind. Heute bin ich mit einem Texaner aus Longview zusammen der 51 ist,(Das hat uns auf deinen tollen Kanal gebracht ).Das Thema ist extrem interessant für uns. Wir sind auch oft in Amerika und das Thema Holocaust ist immer präsent wenn Leute hören das man aus Deutschland kommt. Ich persönlich habe verinnerlicht das ich die Vergangenheit leider nicht ändern kann, ABER! Wir haben die Verantwortung zu tragen das es nicht vergessen wird. Das schreckliche Opfer das durch den Krieg entstanden ist, ist so groß das wir einfach verpflichtet sind Aufklärung zu schaffen und fragen von Menschen aus anderen Ländern zu beantworten.
Feli . . . first let me say that your English is absolutely amazing. (Scarcely any foreign accent.) My family hosted four exchange students from Koln, and my brother and I learned much from them. What was never discussed (as teens 30 years ago wouldn't) was your topics in this video. THANK YOU so much for addressing this, especially in these times of differing cultures trying to understand each other. You seem to be wise beyond your years, and I hope you continue to educate the US viewers to look beyond our borders. It is MUCH NEEDED.
@@absolutedegenerat3372 It is amazing. Generally anyone who is speaking a non-native tongue has an accent, no matter how many years they've been in a new country and no matter how hard they try not to have their accent. Only exceptions I know are linguistic professionals or people that learned their second language as very young children. When older children learn they often still can't hear the nuances enough to not have an accent, so she's really special unless she learned English very early on. It's impressive! But hey, you go on being sarcastic and thinking just anyone can do this if they live somewhere else a few years.
I like the response from Karina from Dortmund where she said that "We were never told to feel guilty". One of my favorite sayings is "Don't be afraid of history." The past should be studied to learn both the positive and negative so we can promote the positive patterns and learn how to NOT repeat the negative aspects of society. We can see a move to more Nationalistic patterns in many parts of the world. This is where history class pays off. Work hard to keep things from degrading into hatred, violence and war. "Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." Wise words... even if they are from a little green puppet in a movie.
The problem isnt the "National" part it is the Socialism part that kills millions of people. You can look up the "top 10 list of state leaders who mass murdered in the last 100 years" = 9 socialist (E.g. Mao, Stalin, Lenin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Kim family, Mussolini, etc...) and 1 King (King of Belgium) It is like you have "Car Driving terrorists" and suddenly you say that all Car Drivers are killers and the problem. No terrorist are the problem in that example. "National SOCIALIST" are leftwing and not rightwing and the problem is not being national focussed. Because all national states should be national focussed that is the idea of national states. That is why the left always wants to ban borders and form "Welt Reichs". You know that "Nationalist" are for all people of their country? So for all races, for all two sexes, for the rich and the poor, for gays and straights, for all religions and even atheists. It is the left that forms groups and elivates one above the other. The left are the -ists people! Ganghi for instance was a stout nationalist. Churchill as well. And yes Trump is one too. But the lefts smear campaign, was called back then propaganda, works pretty well. Billions of people worldwide are brain washed. Socialism has NOTHING TO DO with being social. Quite the opposite.
jesteś pewien że uczysz się prawdziwej historii??? a nie kłamstwa??? zastanawiałeś się kiedyś dlaczego rzekomo nacjonalizm jest zły??? czy demokracja nie pochodzi od wspólnot narodowych? od Greków? nie jest największą wadą nacjonalizmu to że na podstawie narodu dziś nie da się budować imperiów??? Rosja USA Chiny Indie czy nawet pomniejsza Turcja niewolą narody! innymi słowy nacjonalizm jest dla nich zagrożeniem! jednocześnie więzi etniczne narodowe to jedne z silniejszych więzi między ludźmi stąd te próby budowania "nowych" narodów opartych o jakiś wydumanych wartościach ale też pacyfikacja i niszczenie wchłanianych narodów! dlaczego Niemcy wymordowały Żydów? bo się z nimi nie zintegrowali! żyli we własnym świecie obok nich! dlaczego mordowano Polaków? bo po 123 latach niewoli odbudowali własną państwowość! Niemcy to było (i nadal po części jest) państwo totalitarne! oni nie znali demokracji! stąd te obrzydliwe zbrodnie popełniane przez cały naród! nie dlatego że stanowili naród! ale dlatego że nie znali demokracji! demokracja przyjechała do nich na amerykańskich czołgach! a co do nauki historii to czy wiesz dlaczego obozy śmierci powstały na ziemiach dzisiejszej Polski???
I went to school in Germany, but as an American. I always found that the young people around my age were much more open and willing to discuss the holocaust than most older folks. I had the opportunity to visit Dachau and hear stories from a survivor. It was much more than I feel like many of my American peers learned and really understood about the subject. Excellent video and thank you.
Same just got back from visiting Dachau. Literally spent the entire day there and it was the most chilling place I visited on my trip. Its one thing to be told about something its an entirely different experience to physically interact with it.
In high school, we went to Dachau from my school in Switzerland. It was over 50 years ago and I still remember everything. It had a profound effect on me. I think often of the millions of lives lost in both world wars and How our world would be a different place.
I think they go a little too far bringing the topic into music and geology . Really should just stay in history, civics and maybe language arts. I think you create a counter culture when you inject it into unrelated topics . It’s like what’s going on in US where people will bring up politics in completely unrelated things . It gets exhausting
I have also visited the concentration camp in Dachau with my school and I really learned a lot there. I am a German going to school in the US at the moment. Interesting coincidence.
I’m glad I found your videos. They are very entertaining. I am German on my mother side who is all German and who fled Germany with my grandparents right after World War I and came to America because they knew what was building with Hitler and the third reich And they didn’t want my grandparents to have to grow up with that, so I really love your videos. You’re doing a great job.
History is not for us to like or dislike. It's for us to learn from. Feli I am grateful for all your work on this and everyone who took the time to answer your questions. I remember two of my history teachers using the term Nazis instead of Gemans during that time period. Sending love too everyone in Germany
pfff, "History is not for us to like or dislike." If only people actually practiced that when addressing history and past crimes. People have poisoned study of historic events with their emotional attachment to human suffering that should be addressed separately.
some, like the current regime of China and many other Nations in history, they look back on history not for avoiding the mistake that was Socialism... But how to do Socialism Right, how to do Socialism without losing the reins of power as you murder and marginalize your own populace. They see The Nazis and their only mistake to learn from history was how they ended up losing.
I get pretty Furious when looking at German History of the 19th century. The was a boatload of opportunity to create a modern German state even before WW 1. Prussian blue blood militarism and their boneheadedness ruined a lot
I did 3 tours in Germany with the US Army between 1978 and 1987. I found the Germans to be honest and forthright about their Nazi past. As the son of a WW2 veteran it was refreshingly interesting to learn about the war from the German side especially the veterans of the German Whermacht, Waffen-SS, Hitler Youth who fought as teens, and Luftwaffe's paratroopers. Thanks Feli for this video.
Wow, so you were over there when the Berlin wall was still up? I remember seeing that wall come down when I was about 22 and it was the best thing ever.!! it’s hard to believe how the Soviets treated them and I can understand how the Russians were so angry because they were invaded and stabbed in the back by Hitler, but the Soviets treated the East Germans so badly treated them so badly. People were starving and search widespread natural disaster because Berlin was blown to pieces and for years, the United States was taking stuff across the border, and then the Russians build the wall, and they had to do the Berlin airdrops so they can drop food and all kinds of things for babies, including blankets and coats, and things like that, because nobody knew if the Soviets were providing for them at all and they weren’t before. Sad!!
If you believe gentile-nations reign themselves after already the pagans were slaughtered by subverted gentile aristocrazy to install the sio-psyop Christianity you are wrong, the Nazi thing was jewish, one goal was creation of Israel, another goal slaughter and demonize gentiles, especially Germans, because we are the descendants of Amalek for them.
@@montrelouisebohon-harris7023 Yes. I was there during the Cold War. Sometimes things got a little tense when the then Warsaw Pact nations were on annual major military exercises just across the border in then East Germany. NATO was on occasion likewise holding such annual exercises too. Thankfully nothing came of it. I'd like to one day return to see a reunified Germany. The Wall came down while I was attending college and was in the Army Reserve then. I was just as amazed as everyone else never thinking for a second if I'd live to see it.
Tim Heavrin, you mean Wehrmacht, but what did learn from your time in West Germany, can't imagine you spent much time in East Germany. Since, the soviets hated the Americans, and vice versa. Not much has changed since then. Plus, Germany as it is known today didn't exist between 1978 and 1987.
Hi Tim like you I did 2 tours in West Germany in the Royal Air Force (RAF) I was there in the 80's and my second tour was when the Berlin wall came down. I since have lived and worked in Germany in Aviation working for the various airlines. I have a lot of German and Dutch friends from my Military life there and I have visited my old Bases that I served at sadly they are all no longer in use. The town of Gutersloh which was my last posting a friend married a local girl who's mother is a Town councillor, she say's they would love the British back as when we left we took about 20,000 people out of the Towns economy which has made a huge difference. I Love the place and the people as like you my Grandfathers both fought in WW2 and I met men who had fought against our RAF which was interesting to hear their views.
What a beautifully filmed presentation! My father was a POW in Stalag Luft I located in Barth. Since I have 50% German blood 🩸 I have always held a fascination for Germany, and the German people. I also have an insatiable curiosity concerning the Shoah, I have been studying it for over 45 years now. I was incredibly fortunate to have flown as a flight attendant for TWA for over 35 years, many of my layovers were in Germany. I really do have to say that my favorite layover was in Bavaria… Munich to be specific.I always enjoyed my time in Germany, and since 75 years old now I don’t think that I will be returning anytime soon. It is indeed regrettable what transpired during the dark time that came over your country, I’m grateful 1:52 that I did not have to live through any of that. I was born four years after the end of World War II, and my father used to answer all of my questions, very honestly concerning his life in Germany while prisoner. As a matter of fact, my sister and I used to say that he probably collaborated because he was a very good friend of one of the German guards in the German guard used to take him to town all the timelike they were best buddies. I even remember seeing pictures when I was four years old in 1953 of my father’s Wehrmacht guard and myself when we were touring Europe after a Station assignment. You did a wonderful job filming this! Steve
Feli, It is very refreshing hearing such a comprehensive discussion of this topic from a German's point of view. I am of German descent, lived in Stuttgart & Berlin in the '60s and now live in Massachusetts. There are so many things happening in the world today very similar to what Germans endured in the '40s through the early '90s. I really believe they could teach us a lot about how to recognize the mistakes we are making even today. American democracy is so fractured around hate, nationalism, racism, authoritarianism, fascism, disinformation and Orwellian censorship in schools. I was in West Berlin on the day the USSR stormed Czechoslovakia and massed their army on the Polish border less than 80 km away. History repeats. Harry Truman said: "The only thing new in the world is the history you don't know." I commend the attitude that present-day Germans need not feel guilty for what others have done, but rather maintain a responsibility to remember what happened, why it did, and how to keep it from happening again. I hope Americans will recognize how at-risk they are before things go too far.
You are right to a degree but most of what you said is based upon minority groups having a mic to convey their feelings. majority of united states citizens are not racist in the slightest and I guarantee that number is above 90% today. We are proud and the basis of our society comes from war so naturally we are hard headed. If it came to the defense of this country, we would not hesitate to die for one another regardless of race or ideology. Anyway, to reiterate, you are right degree.
Great video. As a dual Polish and American citizen, this is a topic that has interested me my entire life. My great-grandmother used to tell me first-hand stories about her experience in the war. My great-grandmother and grandmother(as a child) were both in Warsaw during the Uprising. I'd like to mention something I don't often enough see Germany receive sufficient praise for. Germany is a shining example of the power of enlightenment and transformation. A nation once consumed by darkness, it has become a beacon of light in the modern world. It proves, beyond a doubt, that change is always possible.
Thk U 🙏& Thats the first time I ever read such a comment. In my 55 years on earth I was raised as Feli explains it perfectly. It got stucked deep in my heard and brain what germany did in WW II & Holocaust. I don´t feel to be real guilty(in a way I do) to what happend because I am much to young BUT I feel the very strong reponsibility that these or similar things can´t happen again. I was always against right winged pardies in germany. But I don´t stop at the borders of germany. For me "Never again" means everywhere. I try to tell people from everywhere to learn out of the mistakes germans made in these dark germany history years. A Problem what we have in germany is that these times where differently refurbished in the two totally different school systems in West and in East Germany. As a Westgerman raised I only can guess that in the east it was more like "the Nazi´s are all in West germany and they are guilty not us" I is hard for me to understand that the extrem right wingend Pardies always get the most votes in former east german parts. Maybe it would be goood if some one of my age and Eastgermany raised would explain his view to it. Maybe me I am wrong here. I like to learn about other views about why there is the difference. That is what we always should do. Learn to under stand the others view. For me the most importantthing what everyone need to learn is Emphathy !!! More Empathy, less wars !
Germany still did not pay reparations for war for Poland even tho it was the most destroyed country and first victim they are saying it is expired but world crimes never expire German country do not want to pay because of how much it is and they did not even give back what they stolen what a democratic country they are or rather try to act like one .
This popped up in my feed & I’m glad about it. I’m a 53 year old Brit & my father served in WWII. He was a Tanker who landed on D Day and went all the way to Germany. He was involved in the liberation of Belsen. Full respect to you for tackling this subject & to Germany. I love being a Tourist in German. It’s a great Country & seems very compassionate. Britain has lost its way IMO.
@@sylversyrfer6894 As a American I can confirm that us Americans have lost our way, Our structure is in shambles as well as our leaders & no peace we’ve lost our order, The people’s voices have been silenced. But that’s just it we know sex drugs money trans LGBTQ etc all in that order
Everything you just said but from me change UK to America , change tanker to infantry( prisoner of war ) My grandfather would Be Completely disgusted if he was alive today to see what has become of the US Our govt has crashed our country intentionally. I'm disgusted w the attitude of people and politics in the US these days Also I got so much respect for this video this popped in my feed also and I was thinking " I don't wanna watch this shit. .. " gave it 2 minutes and ended up watching it 2 times in a row . Great vid for sure .
This is the best coverage of "Germans today and WWII" I've seen on UA-cam, thank you Feli. Also, the Stumbling Stones were new to me and I think such is an amazing memorial idea. If I'm ever in Europe, I"ll keep my eyes open.
You all have no idea here. That's propaganda! I have lived in this country for a long time. I was also at school and had history lessons. They only blame the Nazis. The nation is absolved of guilt.
This was incredibly well done. Super informative and beautifully presented. No awkward pauses.. no "uhh's" and desperate groping for words. You were engaging right to the finish!
I was stationed in Schweinfurt in 1991-1993 with the US Army. I loved listening to you reading in German. I don't understand it anymore but it made me feel young.
Thank you for this video! My father was German, a child during WWII. My grandfather was SS, one of my great-uncles is still (as far as I know) considered missing in action on the Russian front. The home my father's family lived in during and just after the war is in Dachau, I remember, when visiting Germany with my father, combining a stop to see his childhood home with a tour of the KZ and memorial. One of his earliest memories was, as a child, looking out towards Munch from Dachau, and see the sky as it glowed as the city burned from allied bombs. After the war, as he grew older, was a much stronger memory, of course, not the impressions of a young child. He talked about attending school in shifts (you were assigned to either morning or afternoon classes) due to a lack of both schools and teachers, and earning money for university expenses doing construction in the late 1950s efforts at rebuilding. (He earned his PhD in chemistry, and eventually wound up working in Kodak in Rochester, NY in research, your family probably took pictures on film he helped work to improve, and had them developed on paper his work improved, as well.) My father's experience learning about WWII seems parallel to my experiences learning about Vietnam as a high school student in the US in the 1980s. It was too recent to make it into the history books, to far back to be current events, and still a living memory for my teachers, who tended to take for granted that this was something people just knew from experiencing it. His understanding was to a certain extent shaped by post-war slogans and public reeducation, e.g. "Never Again a German Soldier." My father was profoundly anti-war and anti-fascist, and deeply resented that Germany was re-militarized, which he felt was under US pressure, as part of the Cold War. One of the last political conversations we had, as my father's dementia progressed, was leading up to the US 2016 presidential reaction. He was quite clear that the Republican candidate at that time (who shall remain unnamed here to hopefully avoid the attention of search bots on your page) was "a N@zi" and "just like H!tler." (Words again obscured to help keep out unwanted searches...) My father was quite willing to talk about WWII, and the associated atrocities, seriously, with anyone. However, he was not at all comfortable with any sort of jokes, either about the war (which was a living memory of horror, for him), it's aftermath, or the Holocaust and associated persecutions and atrocities.
Clearly, ALL kinds of ordinary decent Gemans were swept along with the tide of fear as the nazis became completely entrenched in every aspect of ordinary day to day life, whether you fully approved of their false propaganda lies or not. There was a film on YT showing inside a German Cinema, just after the war, that was full of ex German Military men. They were forced to watch Allied News Reel scenes, of the discovery and opening of the Death Camps. Many of these young Germans were in tears, and watched through cupped hands over their eyes.
This is a topic I have thought about a number of times. I’m a 71 year old American woman who is encouraged by what I have learned here. I truly appreciate your efforts to educate and inform. You are a bright and sensitive young woman.
I really like the German flag, I ain't gonna lie and also I have deep admiration for German culture but only thing that disappoints me is that they are so less patriots. Let me say this whenever I hear the word "Germany", nazi / h*tler aren't the first thing that comes to my mind, that is the thing of the past, don't cope just move on. Just like in the US, I hope to see those beautiful German flags on top of people's houses in Germany while I'm still alive. peace Ich mag die deutsche Flagge wirklich, ich werde nicht lügen und ich habe auch große Bewunderung für die deutsche Kultur, aber das Einzige, was mich enttäuscht, ist, dass sie so wenig Patrioten sind. Lassen Sie mich das sagen, wann immer ich das Wort „Deutschland“ höre: Nazis/H*tler sind nicht das Erste, was mir in den Sinn kommt, das gehört der Vergangenheit an, komm nicht zurecht, geh einfach weiter. Genau wie in den USA hoffe ich, noch zu Lebzeiten diese schönen deutschen Flaggen auf den Dächern der Häuser in Deutschland zu sehen. Frieden
How does two world wars find germans in the middle? How nice it must be to forget your own pain while countless families suffered their losses and sometimes there were no bodies to bury. What really did happen? is there a repeat to come did we learn something? Maybe its not war maybe we tolerate evil and for what? I would not want to be a survivor my conscience would not let, yes I get it the shame the hideous actions of one leader, I am not a german but you did not stand up against this tyrant now you live with the shame it was a difficult time in history so good for you germans who stand a up . Many of those who lived through this are now gone. As long as we treat this as just something that happened History has a way of repeating. Abhoring 😢 Germany we forgive you. God have mercy on us all.
Thank you for discussing this topic so forthrightly. I know it had to be difficult for you. I must tell this story: Around 2000, when I was living in Chicago, my curiosity sent me to a rundown bar in my neighborhood. I sat at the bar & met an 80-ish year old man from Bavaria. I realized this would be my only opportunity to talk to someone who witnessed the rise of the Third Reich. I asked him what he remembered. He was about 13 when Hitler came to power as Chancellor, so he was aware of what was going on. He explained Germany was flat on its back economically due to reparations from WW1. There was a feeling of hopelessness everywhere. After the collapse of the Weimar Republic, they were willing to give him a try. First thing he did was make the trains run on time. The feeling was, if he can do that, let's give him more party members & see what he could do. There were public works and other things that improved people's lives. He repeatedly denied knowing about systemic attacks on Jews or the Holocaust; he said he learned about those after the war. As a teenager, he admitted getting swept up in the emotion, though he had suspicions of people's fervent following. He learned what was going on behind the scenes after the war. He realized he had been duped and was visibly angry that he had been manipulated. I'm so happy that I took the chance to ask him and doubly happy he was so open. It was like he was waiting for someone to tell his story to. My advice: If you have a chance like this, take that chance. If they say "Get lost", you've lost nothing. But if they open up, you'll have a view of history you'll never learn from books.
"He repeatedly denied knowing about systemic attacks on Jews or the Holocaust; he said he learned about those after the war." The usual cop-out of that generation. I talked with enough of them to know that this is a lie. They DID know, they made an effort to not notice.
@@Quotenwagnerianer Absolute nonsense. "I talked to enough of them" Lol. My mother LIVED through the war. Her side of the family is German. My grandfather fought in the war. They did more than "talk to people" about it. Unless they were in the middle of a major city, they would not have known about the mass roundups. Of course they knew that Jews were rounded up, but that's exactly the same thing that is happening in America right now. A certain group of the population has been singled out for their politics and are being arrested without charge and sentenced by corrupt judges, yet half the country cheers it on because they are brainwashed by media. Exactly the same situation. Playing Call of Duty of course makes you an expert I'm sure. In the video game, everybody knew what was happening to the Jews, right? All your cartoon characters explained to you what happened, I'm sure.
@@dialecticalmonist3405 "Of course they knew that Jews were rounded up, but that's exactly the same thing that is happening in America right now. A certain group of the population has been singled out for their politics and are being arrested without charge and sentenced by corrupt judges, yet half the country cheers it on because they are brainwashed by media. Exactly the same situation." You did not just compare... oh. my. God... Get your ass out of your head. Fast! And you are talking to a german you dingus! Not some "My mother's side is german and my grandfather lived through the war"-dude who thinks he has it all figured out. I live IN Germany. I think I know what I''m talking about. My Grandfather was in a russian POW camp. I remember the fights my father had with him because he feigned ignorance to the Holocaust. So don't talk to me as if you had any first clue about anything.
@@Quotenwagnerianer Complete bullshit. Life back then did NOT transcend your village or the next one. There was no smartphones, no internet, there was no TV, ppl barely had radios. It simply happened behind most peoples backs... Always so easy from someones perspective who grew up in peaceful & easy times, judging people who you know nothing of. Shame on you
@@Quotenwagnerianer -- I'm sure they were caught up in the 'blaming the Jews' thing, but they didn't know about the death camps, because after the war, the Americans were was so po'd at the horror they found at the death camps that they dragged German citizens in to see it (and this is on film), and they were visibly horrified. I don't think there's any way they could know about the death camps. Even the allies didn't believe the leaked death camp intelligence stories until they finally saw them after the war.
Congratulations Feli. You’ve covered a (still) sensitive subject in a very balanced and well thought out manner. I grew up in The Netherlands and when in secondary school, the topic of World War II was covered quite extensively, although not nearly as much as I now know young Germans learn in their schools. I remember in the 1980s Helmut Kohl was the German Bundeskanzler, and the relationship between The Netherlands and Germany was … not so much ‘tense’, but more ‘loaded’. World War II was never far away, I felt. And then, in the late 80s, two things happened: in 1988 The Netherlands won - in Munich no less - the European Championships. I sensed that for my parents’ generation, this meant a lot (many saw it also as a revenge for the 1974 WM). And then, over a year later, November 9th, 1989 happened. And I remember how on the following Monday our German teacher asked our class if we knew what historic event happened that weekend, if we appreciated the importance - I’m sure most of us didn’t, we were 16 at the time. In February 1990 she took our class on a three day trip to Berlin, both West and East. That trip helped me a lot in realizing Germany is so much more than World War II. And I think in the 1990s, the relationship between The Netherlands and Germany normalized a lot, and nowadays World War II is still an important lesson in our history, but it is no longer as dominant as it was in the 80s and 90s. Thanks again for making such a good video.
As an United States Of America Citizen, born and raised, I learned about World War II from not just school, but also from the fact that my father's father served in the US Army and was a paratrooper… he also served in the Korean War and retired Master Sergeant after 21 years of service… but to the point, I also have read the book "Night" by Elie Wiesel… my father also one of the oldest children was born in 1949… I don't know where it is, but I remember me and my father have read my grandfather's book talking about going AWOL when sent to NYC base because he was from the country area of Augusta Georgia…
Feli: Hut ab! And many thanks for putting in the time and effort to make this video. As an American born to a German mother, this topic has been with me my whole life long - I am now 83. I first engaged with it in earnest during my junior year in Munich in 1960-61 where I connected with German relatives and for a time entertained the possibility of taking on German citizenship. Instead I got distracted by a chance to go to Japan and ended up living there for 24 years. That meant I got to watch how Germans and Japanese both processed their history of WWII up close, and personally. I am convinced the Germans have done a far better job of it, by the way. Now, with loyalty to three countries, Japan, Germany and the U.S., and with so much water under the bridge, I've come to feel that the focus should be less on the particulars of war crimes (in Germany and Japan) and on slavery and genocide (in the U.S.) and more on how easily the human race can go wrong. I reject the biblical curse of "visiting the iniquity of the fathers unto the third and fourth generation." I don't find any justification for taking on somebody else's guilt and shame. At the same time, I believe that if you belong to a nation - like Germany, Japan or the U.S. - that has committed inhuman crimes, I believe you should take responsibility for keeping track - as you just did so marvelously - of how your countrymen and women process these crimes. Not just with slogans like "nie wieder Krieg" but with in-depth understanding of how fascism can take root and grow, and how we can learn from history.
I absolutely agree but I want to add that if you dig far enough in the past (for most nations not that far) you will find such inhuman crimes. You will find a lot of them in every nations history and through much of humankinds history it was normal. We tend to get caught up by resent crimes because they are a lot better recorded, bigger in scale and of course closer to the present. The scale is only limited by the possibilitys of every given timeframe. So pointing at others is always hypocritic and that adds to what you said. We have a responsibility of keeping track but keeping track of just what your ancestors have done will leave you blind for the majority of threats. So I would say we have a responsibility of keeping track with all of historys dark sides and everyone has it regardless of where we come from.
@@grischnach2556 Well i agree about that every nation has dark history / dark past the problem is when some things in history are more recent like the nazis and the concentration camps in Germany, the racial laws in USA etc etc That hard stuff gives certain image/ reputation.
Herr McCornick ... ich ziehe den Hut: Ihr Kommentar spricht auch aus meinem Herzen, wenngleich ich nicht über eine soooo große Erfahrung wie sie verfüge. Auch toll, daß wirklich alle Generationen sich heute so miteinander unterhalten, diskutieren, verständigen können ... und abschließend toll, daß wir alle diesen Kanal von Feli gefunden haben. Beste Grüße
@@grischnach2556 yes and no. I agree that all people have the potential to inflict horrible crimes on others, but the degree and extent to which they succeed greatly depends on the killing capacity of their weapons of war (and other supporting technology). No weapon before the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki could come close to the death tolls these achieved in literally a flash. One reason Europeans swept across continents so quickly in the 19th century (and the US Civil War killed so many, the most of any war America has fought so far) were the new weapons born of the industrial revolution gaining steam earlier in the late 18th and 19th centuries.
@@alexrafe2590 I am not completely sure of the importance of weapons. It's more about the deliberate will of a state organized to mobilize the resources of millions of people against a minority. Yugoslavia war and Rwanda prove that even with crude means, ethnic hatred can be built up between neighbors, with murderous consequences on large scale. Even when the distinction between ethnicity is more than dubious: Yugoslavian and Rwandese resorted to ID card to distinguish the "enemy", based on the last name or administratively stamped ethnicity, although this made few sense with so much cross wedding.
Feli, you are doing a great job of educating the public! As a 54 year old African American man, I appreciate the honesty and soul searching in the video. I was born on a military base in Frankfurt, Germany after the Civil Rights movements in the US. I wish I kept up my German language education in college. I am still trying to learn! Keep up the good work!
.. Hitler was a socialist wanting to conquered world not a nationalist.. Hitler.mao..stalin...bush..Obama all politcal activists trained & installed by British/German Bank money given to bush and other families&foundations in America....corporations like phizer .bayer..setitimg up quarnteen camp's amd covid passport papers ..durning lockdown ....
As an American Jew of parents who survived the Holocaust, (yeah, I'm 70 years old), your video explaining the curriculum in German education was very encouraging. I personally can not ascribe guilt to current German people but knowing that this German nation understands what their grandparents were involved with is all that can be asked of. Thank you for posting this very important video.
You should visit..its a fantastic country..i’m a british jew of german origin..i’m a huge fan of football (soccer) and boxing,my pursuits have taken me there over the years-the people are fantastic
they should teach that true Holocaust death numbers have not been firmly established and have been inflated for rhetorical effect. 6 million? I don't buy it.
Yes we do here and specially for my ppl(and yours) who grew up in a jewish village is this a hard theme ... Because we protected the holy spots of us until today even while this war. Its always important to remind about . This should be an excample not only for germans . This should count for the whole world how fast humans as nation can change on a really more as evil way. Because i can just admit thats not the germans from the past before this years and definatly not the germans today. So for me they are not duty because they grewnup later. Sadly is this mindset still in many heads...
You did such a great job with this video. Thank you so much for tackling the subject so seriously and completely, compiling your survey responses as you did. Your video was only a half-hour long and yet I feel so much better educated on your and other Germans' perspectives. You are an excellent educator.
I served in West Germany (as it was then) as a Soldier from 1970 - 1974. My own experience was one of the 'younger generation' being reasonably comfortable when the War years were mentioned. My own dear Father survived those dreadful times and lost many good friends from 'U boat' attacks in the North Atlantic. I often wondered how he would have felt knowing that I had a German girlfriend during my time in Nienburg (Weser) - He sadly passed away in 1968 - I would have been happy to relate that your people were so much more like the British than anywhere else I have ever been (which covers quite a lot). One of the happiest times of my life was spent Langlauf skiing in Mittenwald (Bavaria). I just love your Country and the German people, what a pity I was not able to let my Father know. God Bless
If he was anything like my grandpa he wouldn't have cared about the girl. He got a purple heart from D-Day, and as he told my dad " I went over there to kill them and then I came back home and married one".
I don't think your father care that you dated a German. I did a few tours in Iraq and if I had kids who dated and Iraqi I wouldn't care. The governments go to war, the men fight the battle. If your dad is a reasonable and wise man he's not going to get mad at the soldier on the other side.
My mom and American daughter of an American soldier married my father who also was from Deggendorf of the Bavarian part of Germany . 👍👍 My American grandfather being the way he was he was not very happy about it as he was a pow in Germany at the battle of the bulge . All my life while he was alive my grandfather would call me a Nazi bastard not realizing that Hitler wiped out my father's hometown all because they were Roman Catholics . My dad came to the states 10 years after the war was over at the young age of 15 and was a true American patriot till the day he died back in 2009 .he always the loved the Americans . The German people are wonderful and beautiful people that were victims of their own political leaders .
@@NinjaSushi2 Yeah, war was just a deadly game men played. We should have asked the German POWs we captured if they had much fun fighting for Hitler! Did they lose any friends playing this game? Its all in good fun after all! Europe would have been such a boring place if World War II just didn't happen, people would have gone on living their boring lives without the opportunity to shoot and and kill human beings. American servicemen could have spent their Christmases with their families. So that German fellow that was shooting at them and keeping them in Europe was a real annoyance.
According to this plan, not only the Poles were to be exterminated, but all Slavs in the occupied territories in Europe and a relatively small number were to be enslaved.
So interesting, Fel, your experience is so interesting. Your whole attitude is so admirable. You are talented and healthy and an incredible witness to this period. Thank you for your channel.
Excellent video presentation, Feli. I’m American, 69 years old, and a student of History. I’ve learned that we humans are capable of shocking atrocity, yet also capable of incredible kindness. Your presentation has helped mature and deepen my understanding of the duality of those extremes that are part of our nature. Thank you.
recently there was an Earthquake in Turkey, and just a short distance away there was a Russian invasion of Ukraine, it wasn't controversial to send aid to the victims of the Earthquake in Turkey, but it was somewhat controversial to send aid to the Ukrainians that were affected by this human made disaster cause by all those armed illegal aliens coming across the border from Russia, and they started shooting, killing, and bombing innocent civilians! There is a mind trying to kill people in Ukraine, but just mindless nature killing people in Turkey, the quake is over but the war is ongoing, so are we to blame the humans that came across the border without proper visas and with illegal military grade weapons, for this human made disaster in Ukraine? I sometimes wish those Russians were never born, like if there were no children born in Russia from 1990 to 2010, there would be no one to fight Putin's war. I hear Putin also visited Ukraine without permission, where was Putin's visa?
@Anon Ymous some atrocities are more shocking than others, the United States never ran a death camp for instance, the United States never started a World War. World Wars are atrocities in and of themselves. The United States fought in many wars, a few of which we started ourselves, but most of which we didn't.
Many thanks for this video. As a Dutch national I never discuss the topic with German friends or colleagues. I think I avoid it out of respect. I have to say that we are not taught a lot about tactics in school here either, but you will find this in documentaries that are broadcasted this time of year (memorial day, independence day etc). Btw also really nice to hear your voice for longer German texts. The speed and clear pronunciation are perfect for me, not needing the subtitles.
You should consider reading further. Anti-Semitism was a world movement at the time. Even here in America there was a moderately successful Nazi political party 'until Hitler went too far'. Sadly...in my readings, I learned that Germany's 'Final Solution' actions gave anti-semitic groups throughout occupied Europe the courage to participate in the Holocaust...frequently turning neighbor against neighbor. Far too many today view the Holocaust as a Germany only event whereas the truth is far scarier.
Thank you very much for this. I am from the USA. My father fought in Germany, and his ancestors (only 1-2 generations earlier) were from Prussia, Bohemia, Bayern, and Luxembourg. In fact, my dad’s uncle fought in WW I, in Germany, also. After that war ended he went to Luxembourg to meet his first cousins. I hope to travel to Europe some day. I had hoped to take my dad, but by the time I maybe could afford it, he was too elderly. He died in 2009. One interesting thing. I was with my dad when he had an appointment with a doctor he hadn’t seen before. The doctor came in, greeted us, introduced himself. Then he said, “Hentges. That’s a German name, right? Have you ever been there?” My dad said, “Well no, not as a tourist. I was there during the war.” The doctor said, “Me, too, but I was on the other side.” Then they each shrugged their shoulders and nodded their heads once as if to say, “I understand. War is hell. Been there. Done that.”
From Subscriber in Asia It's Reported that Once Mother Russia re occupies all of EAST GERMANY again to prevent WW3 (NUCLEAR WAR) all the Groups that were not murdered (it's survivors) during the awful Nazi period must be transferred to the large Area of Germany under RUSSIAN RULE to protect them as the Nazi Movement is growing in the WESTERN SECTION OF GERMANY. THE NAZI MINDSET IS ALIVE N WELL IN GERMANY. GERMANY MUST BE KEPT OCCUPIED N DIVIDED FOR THE NEXT 1000 YEARS SAID BORIS YELTSIN 1989. who's family was murdered by the NAZI SS. RUSSIA WILL NEVER EVER FORGET! MUCH BLESSINGS YULIYA BEAUTIFUL N RICH GOD 1ST ALWAYS ⛪✝️
Once upon a time, men were raised with the principles of “fair play”. Whether in sport or any other contest including war, we were taught to be gracious in victory as well as defeat. There was no honor in salting the wounds. Both of my grandfathers fought in the second WW, but neither of them held grudges about it even though they both lost siblings and friends. To bury the hatchet and move on with life after the war, was the best way to prevent another one. The same was said to be true about the American civil war. To those who use these events of the past to try and instill shame in someone, or to derive some profit from others, i say this. You are no better than those who perpetrated the original atrocities. Both you and them have profited from the same actions and events. If you use labels from these events to try and silence someone because they have different opinions or values than you, then you are using the same tactics that brought those events to pass. It needs to stop now, and we need men who once again understand the concepts of fair play.
Thank you. This has helped me understand my aunt better who, while I was a child denied being German even though it was clear from her speech. We always thought of her as our crazy aunt. Only once the wall came down and she was reunited with her family has she relaxed on the subject. She was only 10 when the war ended so memory was probably limited, but the inherited shame affected many aspects of her life. I’m glad she knows we love her.
I love this content. As an American German, I grew up with horrible guilt, even though my direct family was here in the US. We had lots of family in Germany. My great grandmother was from Bavaria and my great grand father from Frankfort, I’m guessing, am Mein. Thank you for sharing what my family there might have experienced. And I love hearing you speak German. It’s gorgeous.
Feeling are not rational. You’re right, I didn’t have anything to do with it. I feel guilt over slavery, too, which is closer to my direct family. I guess humans can make bad choices. I agree that by remembering we are more likely to not repeat then. Here’s hopin’.
@@KristaLinford i’m jewish of german jewish heritage..went to germany a few times to watch football (soccer) matches..had a fantastic time,met some fantastic people and thats my opinion of the place..no one should feel guilty for the horrors that happened,few if any of the perpetrators are even alive..germany has progressed a lot since then,its now probably one of the finest countries in europe
@@anthonywilson1959 I would like to add... my middle name is Lyndon, named after Lyndon Johnson bc he was a civil rights advocate as Majority Leader in the senate prior to his presidency. This was before he signed the civil rights act in 1964. He also enacted the only national health care in the US; Medicare and medicaid. His legacy of course is horrific war mongering. I'd like to mention in a tone of conversation that maybe it's good to not assume one is a pawn of media. We do live with meters of fairness and unfairness as an innate inclination. Oh and honest question... what do you mean by it was the UK that stopped slavery. ?
I haven't often clicked on your content, but I did today and I am glad that I did. I believe you put a lot of time and energy into this video and it shows. I liked the way you divided the topic into sections and especially liked that you surveyed your subscribers. What a great idea! This was such a valuable piece of work. It becomes more important with the world teetering on re-visiting the extremist right in so many places, including the U.S. Today I subscribed. Thank you!
Thank you very much. 1) I visited Berlin in 2000 and I confess to being scared to go. A rabbi friend of mine had been and truly enjoyed his visit. But my reaction to seeing police around synagogues was totally different than the reaction of my Christian friends. I found it reassuring while they seemed confused. All in all,, I found Berlin to be a warm, welcoming place. 2) When was the first time you met a Jew in Germany or in the USA? 3) I also greatly appreciate your mentioning the other groups who were victimized by the Nazi regime. We rarely talk about them in the USA. 4) In the USA in the 1950s and 60s we barely discussed many of the horrible actions taken by our own government. We mentioned in passing the Trail of Tears but did not discuss the ongoing issues of the many native nations within our country. And it wasn't until I was in my 60s that I learned that we and the French collaborated to make Haiti a failed state. 5) In my high school, one teacher had been in the Pacific as a pilot during WWII and talked about the "Japs." Our superintendent of public instruction had been in the Bataan Death March and talked about the "Japanese." Such a stark difference in respect some 20 years after the war ended. Genug shoyn. A groysn dank.
Philly I am so very impressed with your explanation of this subject (and your video about German Politics). Thank you for posting such informative and interesting topics.
What an excellent, well researched and informative video! Not only are you making Germany, her culture and language interesting and attractive but you have done well in rehabilitating the reputation of carrying out surveys!
this video is the result of the allies indoctrination for the last ca. 80 years.....the video is showing the whole bullshit. Lets assume a while that everything from the video and from the official history is TRUE: 1.) why does Germany have not "freedom of speech"...instead ca. 1,000 prisoners are actually in prison for speech-violation 2.) why does the official history from 1933-45 need law to be protected? Everyone who is espressing his doubt about the official-history is punished by law (like during Nazi-time...lol) 3.) why doesn't germany have a real separation of judicial, executive and legislative powers (as a result, germany is not allowed to issue eu-wide arrest warrants)....and why doesn't that bother anyone? 4.) why is germany still official enemy-state of United Nations? 5.) why does germany dont have an official peace treaty with every country who declared war against germany during WW2? 6.) why are french, english and american troops are still in germany, but no german troops are in france, england or us? 7.) germany is supposed to be sovereign...before that, however, it had to commit itself to having a maximum of 375,000 soldiers, no atomic bombs, etc. 8.) why has the expulsion of the Germans (i.e. east-prussia) and the subsequent land theft not been reversed? 9.) do you know, that more germans died AFTER WW2 then during the war? 10.) why is it forbidden to dig around the former places of the so called "rheinwiesenlager" until today?
Very informative, I had to share (California USA). It's appreciated that you did the survey and shared some responses. We had a German exchange student stay with us a few years back (Uni level) and he was very candid and factual sharing information about the holocaust and racism. I can't say we have done as good a job in our young country. Kudos for setting a standard that results in more informed and enlightened younger generations. And thank you Feli for working on this.
You have no idea! This is propaganda! I have lived in this country for a long time. I was also at school and had history lessons. They only blame the Nazis. The nation is absolved of guilt.
I remember my visit to Dachau. It was a life changing day and chilled my soul. I admit I sat down at one point and just cried. The memory is 40+ years old, and still makes me sad. For a nation to keep such a place open and bare its soul and sins to the world in such a memorial takes great depth of character I lived and worked in Germany back in 1980. Since then it has always had a special place in my heart. My longest friendships are from that time. In 2014, I was speaking to a dear friend after Germany won the World Cup in what had to be the most perfect game I've ever watched. She told me how people were out on the streets waving German flags and singing the national anthem. Then she said, "This is the first time in my life I've felt proud to be a German". That made me sad. But she never felt she was allowed to be proud of being a German - 60+ years after the end of the war! Germany has gone to great lengths to repent of its past. More than any other nation. It has gone out of its way to show compassion and kindness to outsiders. More than any other nation. I think Germany has faced a lot of shaming by people who often express bigotry and hate under the guise of 'history'. They deserve better. Germany is not a perfect nation, but it is better than most.
Agreed. I also find it more sad and more sickening than I could possibly describe that there are more than hints of the propaganda and the beginnings of the "othering" and abuses in my own home country which has always before taken great pride and more than their own share of credit for ending such things in Germany. Ironic doesn't hold enough meaning as a word at all, does it?
Yes I was a much more uplifting visit to the soviet gulag graves scattered across east Europe to see all the 30,000,000 dead Christians killed by the future victims of Germany. I guess Lev Bronstein knew what Germany would do in a couple decades so he worked out a preemptive strike. After all the New York Times posted about the Holocaust as early as 1915.
Hi Im from Germany and live in a smaller city near dachau called Hebertshausen. When I go outside I usually go down the small mountain near my Garden. I walk through a forest and I arrive at the KZ Graveyard of the Victims. It is allways really sad when I enter the place because I can fell that something very cruel happend here a long time ago. May God bless you ! Have a good day!
Just stumbled across this. What a brilliant video that takes on the subject so objectively, while pointing out grey areas, or that this is by no means perfect. Well done.
It’s content like this that makes YT such an insightful tool. I commend and appreciate the work that went into pulling this together. You posed a question I was always curious about. Well done!!
Thank you Feli, this video was a great educational experience for this 64 year old. I’m a fourth generation Texan, born very late in my parents’ lives, so a lot of my family still had very strong emotions around the war while i was growing up, especially my mother, whose brother (Bobby) was killed in August 1944 in France. I’ve always been fascinated by the period between the Russo-Japanese war and the end of the Second World War, and I’ve read many German accounts from those years, but they were always military accounts. Your video opened my eyes to a dimension of Germany I’ve never really considered before, the country’s succeeding generations in the decades after the war through today. I found it fascinating and heartening. I wish my mom could have been here to watch it. :O)
I’m jealous of the level of education you’ve received in the country where you grew up. I live somewhere where specific topics have value and others are better off forgotten. Thank you for this video and the inspiration.
We only get taught what’s shit about our country so everyone turns into a green commie who’s gay. We never learned what’s great about us and what makes this country one of the best economies in the world ( not anymore due to socialism )
Great video Feli. My father was a US B-17 Bombardier with ancestry from UK. My mothers ancestry hails from Germany. How weird. UK vs. Germany. I finally made it to Munich this past Sept- Spent about 10 days visiting WWII sites. I was impressed that there were German teens/a High School class visiting and seeing for themselves the history of Dachau. I also went down to Berchtesgaden and Garmisch-Partenkirchen. I was totally blown away how beautiful Bavaria is --- just beautiful. And how wonderful the German people are/treated me. However- they DO drive fast and I learned very quickly- stay in the right lane. LOL. Congrats on Green Card. Can't wait to go back this Spring 25'. However- Munich Airport is confusing. LOL. Danke......
Thank you so much for an enlightening presentation on how it is dealt with in Germany. I am an 78 years old man with English and Austrian background who always had difficulties raising the issue with German acquaintances. From my earlier age, I was conditioned by many war films and books showing the Germans as the bad boys. At college, learning German was a torture. Later, I met lots of Germans through my professional life, it opened my mind. Having studied at length 20th century German history, I still do not fully understand how a whole well educated and organized nation such as Germany got swallowed up into this horrible nightmare from 1930 to 1945. Through your vlog, the air is suddenly getting fresher.
German here. My schools visit of a concentration camp is over 25 years ago. What happend there is almost 80 years ago. But I will never forget the smell and my feelings that I had at that moment. Every time I think of this, I have goose bumps and tears in my eyes. I wish that every one in the world, no matter which origin, goes to such a place and learns what humanity can do when we are not practice compassion, trust, and good will into each other.
As an Australian I agree America was pivotal in helping the Allies win the war in both European and Pacific theatre's but I think all the allies combined contributed to overthrowing the Nazi's including partisans such as French resistance.
Starting by seeing your recent video on Rammstein, I checked out your channel and came across this video. As a German, I gotta say this is great. It finally gives people outside of Germany some context on how the topic is handled over here and why, sadly, some people get sick of it and it might even turn into another direction. I personally encourage to have educated conversations about it, meaning: If you do adress a German about this whole topic, consider this. How much have you actually learned about the topic, how knowledgeable are you? If you feel like you are well educated, adress it in a sensitive manner and obviously don't be cliche about it. If you feel like you don't know a lot about it you can still speak about it, just be acknowledging of the fact that you don't know a lot, don't make assumptions, and listen to what they have to say first and foremost. This applies especially if you talk to a person who is old enough to have actually interacted with those that lived through the war, or even the by now very rare instance of getting to meet a very elderly person that still remembers those times from their own life. Listen. To be very honest, there were times back when I was in school (which wasn't super long ago, I completed my A-levels in 2014) where I felt they were kind of overdoing it with the topic, but nowadays that I'm an adult and can actually comprehend a wider range of aspects about it, I see why it is necessary for us to hear about it in great detail. I did, even back then, appreciate the more concrete examples we were shown, like visiting a concentration camp or meeting someone from a nearby Jewish community who told us about their experience back then. Looking back, it was just getting kinda tired of dealing with it in class. Nowadays I have the strong conviction that young Germans need to learn about it, and they need some grisly details as well to comprehend how horrible this actually was and what an insane crime against humanity the Holocaust in particular was. Apparently there are still problems in terms of dealing with this past since there are still, somehow, very right wing people in Germany and their parties getting more and more votes. For the sake of doing the right thing in that regard, I will now adress my fellow Germans directly and in our tongue: Leute, ihr habt es alle in der Schule gelernt was für fürchterliche Verbrechen damals begangen wurden und welche Schuld Deutschland damals auf sich geladen hat. Wir, die aktuellen Generationen, sind natürlich nicht daran schuld, wir haben schließlich nicht dafür gewählt oder waren daran beteiligt. Aber was wir defintiv tun müssen ist dafür Sorge zu tragen dass so etwas nicht nochmal passiert. Haltet die folgenden Worte in eurem Herzen dazu: NIEMALS WIEDER. Niemals wieder. Wehret den Anfängen, wenn ihr euch die politische Landschaft anseht könnt ihr sie schon sehen. Translation: People, all of you learned in school what horrible atrocities were commited back then and the guilt Germany burdened itself with. For us, the current generations, it has to be said that obviously it's not our fault that it happened, we didn't vote for it or participate in it. What we do have to do though is make sure it never happens again. I want you to hold the following mantra close to your heart: NEVER AGAIN. Never again. Be wary of the roots of such ideologies and don't give them any ground, if you look at the current political landscape in Germany you'll see worrying tendencies in that direction.
I know the video is a year old. I like your videos but avoided this one until today. Very enlightening and open minded video, and I think you are brave. My wife and I got married in 1989, and spent 3 weeks in Europe on our honeymoon, over one in what was West Germany. We drove the Romantische Strasa. Lots of castles and bier gardens. Everyone was welcoming.
As the son of Holocaust survivor who lost his entire family in the gas chambers of Auschwitz I would like to thank profusely for this most important video . Your video has given me a lot of insight into modern day Germany . You have provided me with a sense of peace and closure about this very dark period of mankind. You are truly a unique and compassionate person . You cannot return my family to me but you provided me with peace and hope . Thank you for this fearless and comforting video . This video should be mandatory viewing . Great lecture!
I never knew I needed to hear that. As a German I bow to you and your family. I feel so incredibly sorry for you and so many others. What my ancestors did is an almost unthinkable act of terror, evil and monstrosity. And yet it happened. May your family be never forgotten, may they rest in peace and may we never fall so low again.
@Gary Russ absolutely untrue. We have freedom of speech as well. You are just not allowed to sh*t (sorry for this strong word) on the memorials of the victims of an atrocious crime (the victims of the Holocaust) by denying their existence. You can absolutely discuss historical facts and talk about theories.
Hi, Feli. Wow. First, thank you for making this video. I'm 63 and my father--and many of my uncles and cousins (I'm American of Italian descent)-- fought in the war. I was born in '59 and all I can remember is a gigantic hush about the war. Like, we must pretend it never happened--even though we kids saw how men suffered from their war experience every day. My father, after going through the Great Depression as a child, and being picked on and called names because of his Italian background, at the age of 21 ended up getting shipped off to Belgium to point guns at airplanes. The horrific things he saw (starvation in the Belgian countryside?), and perhaps even did, will be locked away forever as he passed away in 2006. I wish we'd talked about it more in America, especially the for we first generation of children whose parents fought. What I remember from childhood is hearing this very harsh and guttural sounding language of these "Nazis" during American war movies, and being afraid of German people and even hating the sound of the German language. It took me well into adulthood to do my own history learning to put this irrational fear and hatred into perspective. Now, I make sure that my students learn at least a little about it. I teach 6th grade social studies and we learn about Native Americans and I am sure to teach about the Navajo Code Talkers during the war, which leads to questions and discussions and I share my experiences...but it just seems like not enough. I feel we do so much teaching about the past and our "Independence" and nothing about the 20th Century! So I hope I light a spark. Thank you again for sharing your insights and experiences. It's so important and I appreciate it.
This has been a very fascinating video to watch. My Jewish Grandfather was able to flee Germany with my father in July 1939 and ended up in Cincinnati. My grandmother and Uncle where supposed to follow a couple months later. We know what happened in August of 1939. My grandmother, uncle, and Great Uncle ended up in a camp where my Great Uncle passed away. My Grandfather and dad both had their German Citizenship stripped in 1941. Eventually my Grandmother and uncle got deported and made it to the USA many years later. My father never talked about what happened to them leading up to them fleeing Germany. As my dad knew his health was deteriorating he wrote a book about his life, growing up in Germany, and what lead up to them fleeing Germany. I learned last year that Germany was allowing descendants of persecuted classes in Germany to restore the German Citizenship which I am now in the process for myself and my kids. My dad was always very proud of being German.
Thanks for this story. My Jewish Grandfather and grandmother flee Germany with my mother, a young child at the time, in 1934 but they mobed to Israel, then under British control.
That is the tragic irony behind the Nazi-time. German Jews before the Nazi-time felt very much connected to Germany and the greatest scientists of our time were often Jews from Germany.
I can't stress how much I appreciate you covering this topic so objectively! I'm Jewish and will be traveling to Germany for the first time next summer. I'm very well-traveled, having been to 6 of the 7 continents, but I think I've been subconsciously avoiding Germany. I know there's going to be things that will make me upset there. Who wants to be upset on vacation? More topically, my son recently made a new friend at school. His parents are lovely people and the mother is German. It's never come up organically anyway, but I've been reluctant to mention that I'm Jewish. I'm aware of guilt aspect that some Germans feel and I don't want my new acquaintance to feel uncomfortable. I have asked her to lend me advice on our upcoming travels. You have helped make me feel more at ease if the subject were to come up. So thank you!
Feli, what a wonderful presentation! Very comprehensive and well researched. You dove into the topic in depth objectively. I served in the US Army 1978 - 1981. I was intensely interested in German attitudes on the topic. While I had a number of German friends I never felt comfortable discussing this. I must say I am proud of how the topic has been treated and I view Germans and Americans to be great allies! Thanks.
@@rustywilliamson7140 Yeah, and Soviet soliders served here against US aggression-I'd prefer if both Russian and US military would be far away from Central Europe ; )
My goodness. I admire how well and professionally you covered this very difficult time of Germanys history. Very tough. I’m so used to your much more (usually) carefree videos. Thank You so much
Feli it was very interesting hearing your perspective on WW 2. My father was a WW 2 combat veteran. He flew in a B-24 bomber. I learned so much more about the war from him than I did in school. I've wondered for many years what the Germans are taught and felt about that time. Thank you for posting a great video!
A similar subject is emerging slowly in the erstwhile colony owning countries like Britain. What do they teach their school children about colonialism? The subject is further complicated by the fact that the immigrant parents of many these “British” children are from the colonies. In fact, one can start with the Prime Minister’s own family!
@@benchilton1391Really when was that? How about the class system of not that long ago. The difference between a catholic and a protestant. My family emigrated in 1958 to get away from that. Both parents were ww2 veterans. British Empire is still held on disdain after dominating 25% of the planet.
Feli, I thank you for this video. I am 61 years old & my father was 12 years old in the Philippines when Japan invaded. So I learned 1st hand how brutal the Japanese were. While I learned about the German side of the war. I always wondered how the people felt about the war & what was also taught about. I do have many friends from Germany but never talk about. On the other hand I also have friends from Japan & the ones I know were never taught how brutal there people were during the war. Thank you so much. I am now a subscriber.
My brother was stationed in Frankfurt, Germany in 1973 with the U.S. Military (he was 19 years of age). He fell in love with the country & its People. When he came back from his tour... he told me that he would love to move to Germany when he retires... The German People take great care of their elderly. Thank you Feli for sharing this video... My respect and Love for you and the country of Germany.
As someone who has traveled extensively through Germany, it was (and is) a learning process, certainly not a condemnation. We've had nothing but wonderful experiences with the people, the food and the warm culture, especially in Bavaria. We found Regensburg and Passau to be two of our favorite smaller cities. There were some very somber moments in our travels and as others have mentioned, the stumbling stones and random headstones we encountered in Regensburg were a grim reminder of the atrocities suffered as early as the 1500s.
Amazing and insightful content. So well explained. I’m from Norway. My grandparents also lived through wwii here in Norway. The Nazis came to their village in Gudbrandsdalen & occupied the village & neighbouring house (next to my grandparents house). I remember the stories that my grandparents told me. I’m in my late 40’s now. In my eyes, the effect of the war didn’t feel that long ago. It is important to talk about in the hope it never happens again. Greetings from Norway 🇳🇴
Hi, I'm a German student who spent a semester living in Lillehammer. While I was there, I went to the Sigrid Undset museum and got a tour, which was incredibly interesting, the guide also told us about the German occupation time, in which Sigrid had to flee, because she had publicly positioned herself against the Nazis. Your comment just reminded me of this and I wanted to recommend this museum, in case you don't know it yet :)
Wow. Ich bin wirklich überrascht und erfreut wieviel du wirklich über das Thema in Erfahrung gebracht hast. 1A Video, auf den Punkt gebracht, mit Bildern visualisiert, besser geht's nicht. Direkt mal Abonniert und bin total gespannt, was du sonst noch so hast. Liebe Grüße aus Griechenland.
Thank you so much to everyone who took the time to fill out the survey! It was important to me to have different German voices heard in this video.
What were your experiences like learning about World War II and the Holocaust? Did you go to school in Germany or somewhere else? Let me know in the comments!
Both sets of my grandparents were holocaust survivors from Hungary, my paternal grandparents lost most of their immediate families (parents, grandparents, siblings, in-laws, nephews and nieces) at the Holocaust (most of them in the Auschwitz gas chambers), my maternal grandparents' respective families mostly survived, and only went through the torturing and imprisonment parts of the Holocaust, but eventually survived.
There were a lot of tragedies in my country (Ukraine) due to it being one of the most suffered parts of USSR by Nazi occupation, and a place with the largest Jewish population in Soviet Union. But I feel like the most important here is to learn lessons about your nation dark pages, sometimes in a hard way. Russians carried genocide in 1933 in Ukraine and after world war II we've been told for 50 years that population decrease in Ukraine was caused only due to severe Nazi occupation (it did have millions of victims, but barely more than artificial famine in 1933). And ever since Russians denied their wrongdoings, which resulted in today's aggression.
My father was born in the 1940s. Which means my grandparents were around teenagers, early twenties during the war.
I never asked about their experiences, I instinctively knew it would rip open wounds that had taken so long to heal a little. I know my grandfather was just a kid during that time. He didn't even know what he was forced into.
I think if the tone is respectful and it's real interest behind the question, it's okay to ask. Just make sure the other side wants to talk about it at that moment.
30:28 That strongly depends on how it is represented. I had a lot of great discussions about WW2 and many other historical topics with people from all over the world.
However...I've also met more than one person - mostly from the UK or the USA - who made insulting jokes or spoke about the topic in a "we are the good guys, you Germans are evil" way while at the same time completely disregarded the crimes committed by the British Empire (including genocides committed by the British btw) or the USA (like the nuclear attacks against Hiroshima and Nagasaki, both of which where civilian targets, not military) in discussions about history in general.
This is deeply concerning, especially in regards to the political development in both the UK (Brexit which gave right wing groups and xenophobes a huge push in the UK and Trump in the USA).
I was born in the mid 1960ies. One of my grandfathers was a soldier in WWII. He didn't sugarcoat anything about his experiences and his own actions which weren't very exceptional. He voluntarily became a soldier in 1939 and fought in Poland, France, USSR and Italy. His brother, however, tried to avoid becoming a soldier which caused him to suffer bad consequences. A sister of my grandfather disappeared in a psychiatric clinic at the end of 1939. I had already learned a couple of things about the war itself and a little more or less baised bit about the Nazi era from my older relatives when the topic was dealt in history lessons.
I was really lucky to have a teacher who had prepared different aspects of that matter very considerately and thoroughly. In fact his lessons about earlier periods of history had been very interesting for me already. The visit to the concentration camp Dachau was particularly impressive because our guide had been imprisoned in Dachau three times and was liberated by the US army in 1945. He was a member of the social democratic party and had been "working underground" for the resistance against the Nazis in Munich.
For my generation it seems that education about the Third Reich and the Holocaust was depending on the school and the teacher quite significantly. And I remember that there have been a few parents complaining about that matter being treated in school at all.
The entire field of Weimar Republic, Third Reich/Nazi era and the Holocaust was dealt with during around 18 months. Hence there was enough time left for looking at other periods of history like medieval times, Martin Luther and the Reformation, the 30 years war, the French Revolution, Napoleon and the Congress of Vienna, Industrialisation, the German Revolution of 1848, etc. Looking back I'm impressed of all the stuff we've been learning about in school. However I think all of that is important because it shows that in the long run German history shows a path of progress despite several serious setbacks.
As an American, it sounds to me like a lot of Germans have a strong distinction between blame and responsibility. The attitude seems more forward looking than backward looking, like 'we're not going there again.' Which I respect. I wish my own country could address some of our dark chapters as well.
Germans alive today have neither blame or responsibility for the holocaust. Same as Americans alive today have no blame or responsibility for slavery.
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Dark chapters such as?
I agree that the dark chapters in America should be talked about more in a reality based way. Not in the anonymous guilt-trip laden trash that is so often thrown around the Internet.
America is under a socialist coup . Wish to overturn that . Say no to indoctrination.
I can only speak as an American but I think Germany has done an exceptional job of tackling this very difficult topic. I also think it's incumbent on people EVERYWHERE to learn how/why it happened and ensure it's never allowed to happen again. There are plenty of wannabe authoritarians out there, it's not a Germany-specific threat, and we need to make sure those hard-learned lessons aren't forgotten as time passes.
As a German that has that fear: thank you. Yes, it's not just one county, not just one nation.
It's all around the world and we need the education about that era so it won't happen again.
Also American here, and thank you Feli for sharing this, it's something I'd wondered about often. I agree that Germany seems to be doing a very good job of handling its past, which is something America could learn from as we try to grapple with our own past of racism and chattel slavery. I feel like we are where Germany was in the 1960s with a younger generation wanting to be more open and honest about some of the less savory aspects of American history.
As a German, I can also thank the Americans. Especially after the Allies won. The help in rebuilding, but also (and in my experience even more important) that the trials were public and people were not simply sentenced behind closed doors. I think that also helped a lot to develop an awareness of what crimes were being committed at that time.
Thank you, Sarah. I always thought we did quite a good job here as well. But over 70 years later we have to experience that our government is reluctant to do everything they possibly can to prevent another genocide. I always thought "Never again" ("Nie wieder") was a moral imperativ.
But suddenly there are people telling me this slogans only mean German cruelties and we shouldn't support any kind of war at all.
They don't express it that way, of course, but what they mean is "just let Ukrainians die and as soon as the last of them is gone, there will be peace".
As strange as it is, both of our far-right and our far-left want us to stop supporting Ukraine.
Luckily, both of them, even combined, are a minority.
Nevertheless, I don't understand why we don't do anything we can to support Ukraine.
Because of course, it's the right thing to do (and I feel the pain Ukrainians suffer everyday), and yes, also because it's better for our economic future. And our social and cultural future. And maybe, of future at all.
I mean, does Russia offer any future? They want to re-establish the past.
They really have nothing attractive to offer.
And, as a German, growing up educated the way described in this video, I do feel a special responsibility.
I'm sorry, this was too long, but somehow Feli's vid made me so emotional I had to get out all of it.
Slava Ukraini!
@@michanone Well one nation was not responsible in the death of 50 million people. Germany started the war which turned out to be a catastrophe. However it was the German State. One can't blame all private citizens. However one should not forget or attempt to whitewash it.
As a Russian, I wish our schools have adopted yours' approach teaching how such a thing can happen at all and recognize the red flags early. Instead they taught us how bad Germans were and how heroic Russians were fighting against the invasion and how we suffered immensely but eventually won the war. Which made sense (and also bored most of us), but kinda missed the main point: how to avoid creating the same horror. Now this "heroic fight against the nazi" narrative that was programmed into us is being used as a trigger to suddenly hate some claimed-to-be-nazis in Ukraine, all the way to actually going and killing innocent people. It seems that our education system that programmed us to hate nazi and be proud of our nation as winners has as a result actually produced something very similar in our own country... And yeah, thank you for covering this topic, I was never sure if it's ok to talk to German people about it!
Thank you, the amount of self reflection is incredible. Let’s hope this war ends as quickly as possible with the least amount of harm moving forward.
The Great Patriotic War, which began when Germany invaded The Soviet Union, and lasted until the Germans were pushed out of the Soviet Union was a defensive war, the invasion of Ukraine is not! Now I feel that Russians fought harder when they were defending their own country from invasion than when they were invading someone else's. Russians and other Soviet Nationals could see the reason why they were fighting the Germans.
Right now its the Ukrainians that are defending their homes, and the Russians that are occupying their country, a lot of the Russians don't want to be there, they left their peaceful homes and families to go fight in a foreign country to satisfy Putin's imperial ambitions, so they die in order to make Putin into "Putin the Great" although that does not appear to be happening right now, Russians are just getting killed over there.
All Russia has to do is get rid of Putin and withdraw its troops, the soldiers can go home and resume their civilian lives, and the West can lift sanctions after an agreement for Russia to pay reparations to Ukraine for the damages it caused. I want those reparations to be affordable, that is its purpose is to rebuild Ukraine, not to wreck the Russian economy, we don't want to repeat that mistake the Allies made with Germany after World War I. The United States can help as well, we can start by rebuilding that dam that Russia blew up. I think those houses that were destroyed in the flood zone should not be rebuild and the residents there should be relocated and the flood zone should be turned into a national park. We should rebuild the dam as quickly as safely possible. The environmental impacts have already oc.cured, so all that's left is to rebuild that dam
I guess they don't teach the part in Russia where the Bolshevik NKVD taught their National Socialist allies in Poland from 1939-41 how to slaughter people and turned Jews over to them for disposal.
@@thomaskalbfus2005 You are correct. Although I have no idea how Russian can get rid of Putin at this point. It's like saying to Germans in 1940 that all they have to do is to get rid of Hitler. I personally hope that this stupid war will fracture the inner powers enough to make him lose and fall, although it seems rather hard given the efficiency and power of the security agencies and the propaganda machine.
Wrecking Russian economy is not a potential consequence of reparations, but is already a result of Russian government being in power for the last decades and doing everything to ruin it, starting the war obviously being the last nail in the coffin. Which will probably mean having to give in to external interests, like letting China help Russia out for a number of long-term benefits in return. Just like the help of the US to Ukraine will probably not come without consequences.
The whole of the world wishes this. We could do better in the US as well.
Feli,your command and pronunciation of English is amazing! Thank you for discussing the differences between these 2 Nations
what are the two nations?
Superbly done! Thank you.
Years ago, I was involved in a project that took me to West Germany. I met many wonderful people there. One of them, a gracious man who spoke excellent English, invited me to dinner at his home. I was delighted to go. I met his wife and his two small children. After dinner and sending his young ones off to bed, my host asked me if I had ever visited Germany. I told him that this was my first visit. He asked if any of my family had visited Germany. I thought for a moment, then told him that my father nearly made it to Germany in World War 2 but that he didn’t make it. During the liberation of Luxembourg City in late 1944, a panzerfaust destroyed his tank. He was severely wounded.
My host froze.
I was confused. “I’m sorry,” I said, “Did I say something upsetting?”
My host replied, “I was in a Wehrmacht anti-tank unit in Luxembourg City when the American tanks came in September 1944. I used the panzerfaust.”
His wife began to softly cry.
Confused, I asked him, “How could that have been possible? You would have been a child in September 1944.”
“I was ten years old.”
“…and you were a German soldier?”
He nodded.
Lost in thought and trying to make sense of our situation, it was a while before we again spoke. We swore an oath, committing ourselves to resist wars and ensure that we and our children would never fight each other. That commitment and my high regard for that remarkable man continue to this day.
The Writer's perspective adds insight and context to Feli's video. An amazing contribution.
This brought tears to my eyes. For the millions who lost their lives (on both sides) and the beauty of two sides, once enemies, who now choose peace and forgiveness.
All I can say is Wow. That's...heavy.
This is absolute cinema.
@@Felix-f2m4g The Bridge (Die Brucke) is a very moving film, about this. The misery that followed immediately after the war was just as bad, as depicted by Rossellini's "Germany, Year Zero" (Italian neorealism, meaning it was filmed in Berlin's ruins, using local non-professional actors).
This one of the most eloquent pieces I've seen on UA-cam. This is world class work. Very intense. I appreciate the time you took to handle the topic.
Ahh, the ignorance. Must be nice
@@thelightthatlightsthelifeo6881 are you even german or do you just denile the holocaust because you wanna be edgy
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Lol, bet you don't even know what the Haavara Agreement is. In fact I guarantee this.
@@ken_caminiti zou know that in 1933 there was no holocaust in those early days of the nazis they just tryed to get rid of the jews by discriminating against them or by trying to get them to leave the country like it is the case with the Ha’avara-Abkommen
because of people like you who denile such tragig things like the holocaust and are imagening some kind of jewish secret conspirecy history is bound to repeat it selve
Id@@ken_caminiti
My father fought in World War II under General Patton. He lived in New Jersey after the war. His neighbor, across the street, was Herb Kracker. Herb's father fought for Germany in World War II. There was great concern about the two meeting one another since my father met weekly with others from what America calls the Battle of the Bulge. However, when they did met, they became fast friends over having fought in a war. Most men did not fight due to politics, they fought to stay alive. My father and Herb's father understood one another. They both endured the hell of fighting in a war to stay alive.
My father said the same thing.
Many Germans went to the US after WW2 in Operation Paperclip. Many high ranking and wealthy Americans agreed with the Germans. Heck, there was almost a coup called The Business Plot in 1933 where wealthy industrialists attempted to overthrow FDR and install a fascist dictatorship. They didn't succeed then but if you look at the names of some of the plotters, you might realize who actually won.
Many have said Germany lost the war but fascism won.
My great uncle was shot multiple times in the battle of the bulge as an American. He spent two years being rehabilitated in Europe. He later became an attorney in Delaware county PA. He wrote legislation to create the juvenile justice system to protect kids from the adult system. My grandmother told me he would say in private that the Holocaust was an outright myth as well.
Gen Patton said after WW2 that we should have allied with its Germany, and not fought the Nazis. That it was a huge mistake.
@@anaguma90 surrounded by those of the same species- not increasingly seeing strange faces of an alien race.. have you ever been to an all white town? It’s quiet, it’s safe, it’s high trust and higher fellowship. That ends when invaders enter the scene.
Thank you so much for making this.
I was born in the UK, to an English mother and Polish-Jewish father. My father and his family fled Poland in Sep 1939 as refugees and re-settled in England.
I was born in '71, so I'm 53 as I wrote this.
In High school I learned German for three years, much to my father's dismay. As an adult, one of my closest friends is a German guy exactly my age, from Munich also, co-incidentally.
One day, a few years ago, he and I were discussing how widespread some languages are, and I observed that German is not widespread like French or Spanish, being pretty much limited to Germany and Austria.
His response turned my blood to ice. In a deadly serious manner he said "Not for lack of trying".
I'm still friends with that guy - he was the best man at my wedding - but that one remark he made years ago has made me question Germans' attitudes to WWII ever since then.
Your video has given me a lot more peace in this regard, so thank you.
History has been written by the lying victors ... Churchill hated the Germans and their success and stated, he wanted to destroy the philosophy of Schiller and Goethe !!! With that attitude in mind, they destroyed the indigenous Europeans ... please search Hooton, Kalergi, Kaufmann and Nizer Plan ... Germans didn't write these Plans 😢 Napoleon once said that the Germans are too docile ... did Germans start over 200 wars in the whole world?? If people don't rethink that whole era / time, the white race will be history😢😢
Germany was the last country after the previous 108 where jew got kicked out.....why do they get expelled all the time?
the silly hats detroyed Poland...Murdered the Russians, Poles, Ukrainians. Then the Germans... Pole are not a part of the tribe. They destroyed Poland, like their doing to England, Europe and America today..Same people up to no good.
I lived in Germany for three years while in the US army. This was in the 80s. I was dating a German girl and she took me to visit her grandmother. While there, her grandmother got upset about modern politics and blurted out, “We just need another Hitler.” My girlfriend looked at me and said, “Time to go!!” lol. I really miss that girl.
Well, she’s kinda right
I know the real Germans don’t regret shxt it’s mostly the German Americans talking about accountability 😂
This contradicts this woman's own comments. She is not a German American.@@curtiszyr
Look her up!
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I would like to say thank you for this video. I am a first generation child of a survivor. My father, who is still alive and celebrated his 99th birthday last month, is a survivor of Auschwitz and my mother was a survivor of Theresienstadt. My parents were always very open with me and anyone else who would listen, about what they went through. My parents had occasion to speak in several German schools to the students about their experiences in the camps. I remember my father telling me that when the bell went off for the end of class, not a single student, in any of the classes he spoke in, moved a muscle. I found that comforting, that the students wanted to hear and wanted to learn about their past.
I live in the US and I wish we had the courage to confront out past they way you have confronted yours. I think it could have prevented so much grief and pain.
Thank you for taking the time to address this.
Eternal respect to your parents
Your parents have my eternal heartfelt sympathies and utmost respect for surviving the darkest chapter of human history.
Tell her to stop lying
I lived in Germany for a long time. I could tell you the truth. But that will definitely be deleted here!
Disgusting! I spent my school years in several German schools. None of what she cleims s is true! The students are taught that only the Nazis were to blame! It is claimed that there were only a few Nazis in Germany and that the German population were actually victims of the Nazis. Of course, the truth is not taughthat the vast majority of the population were followers and supporters of the Nazi government and also took part in the crimes, thus they were Nazis. Teachers constantly talk about Nazis in history classes. But not about the Germans, as would be historically correct. It's obvious why! The nation should be freed from guilt!
I can’t thank you enough for discussing this part of your country’s history and how it is taught. You are very articulate and educated. I’m 52 years old (French American), so I can only judge by what I’ve learned in school and from reading books on the subject. My mom was 8 years old when the Western Allies liberated France. My grandparents had mostly negative experiences but I need to share a story about my mom’s older sister who was a teenager during the war. Early every morning, she would leave her house to buy bread at the local bakery. She was followed each morning by a German soldier. She was obviously frightened. The uniforms alone were intimidating. One day he stopped her and in broken French he told her that it wasn’t safe for a young girl to be out alone at such an early hour and that he followed her to ensure her safety. Even as I type this, tears of gratitude and love are pouring down my cheeks. I want to hate Germans but I can’t AND won’t let myself as it’s not fair or right. The most heinous of crimes were committed by truly evil people and they can be found everywhere in every era of the world! Most soldiers were just doing as they were ordered. I AM happy (can’t think of a better word, sorry) that Germans are taught the unbiased truth of the past and I sincerely pray that the people of this beautiful nation are able to see it for what it is without the unduly guilt. Alix from Karlsruhe (I’ve visited that city 🇩🇪) said it most poignantly. “Young people often feel guilty even though they had nothing to do with it. But that doesn’t change anything. INSTEAD IT’S OUR JOB TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN’T HAPPEN AGAIN.” That’s the job of EVERY citizen of this world!!!
This is one of the finest works on UA-cam. It is incredibly well done. As someone who is 50 percent German descent, 25 percent Jewish Polish descent, and 25 percent Polish descent who lost many Jewish relatives and 5 civilian Polish Catholic relatives in WWII, that the pain is lasting but it gradually diminishes over generations. I can remember visiting with my German relatives in the 1980’s and being surprised at the number of my relatives who had portraits of WWII German soldiers in their living rooms. They were of my relatives who were had been killed in WW II. The pain of their loss to my relatives was very real and lasting also. At that time it was still too sorrowful to talk about it. But my relatives wanted to me in passing that WW II was an epic personal tragedy for them also. I commend you for your professionalism and objectivity in sharing the German perspective on WW II.
Great Video Topic Feli! I have wanted to hear exactly this topic discussed by a German from a German perspective. This was one of your best videos yet! Thanks so much-
What a great video covering this topic Feli. Thank you for giving the subject the respect and acknowledgement that it deserves. Probably one of my favorite videos of yours yet. As some other commenters have already mentioned, my hope is that in the US we treat our country's historical tragedies with the same amount of coverage and respect so these things never happen again.
This is propaganda that has nothing to do with reality!
I very much appreciate everything you shared about the war, the holocaust and the German people. I especially appreciate the responses of Germans living in Germany today. As a Jewish man these issues are very important to me. You a very fine young lady, and I'm encouraged by your sincere commitment to educating others. Again I thank you so much for all your efforts. Blessings!
Show your real face
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that is very nice of you
I am a german living near munich. Ask and i shall answer.
@@TheKaos8 will bavaria separate?
Holy s*** I can't believe that you said people in the '60s people of Germany started demanding that their elders take responsibility for what happened during the war Oh my God Feli thank you for telling me this ... I never fathom such a thing and I'm so glad to hear this These are men and women of conscience ... Thank God!
That’s why there was a rise in protest groups, and even terrorism like the RAF.
I'm from Poland so this topic is very hard for me. Almost 20% (around 6 million people) of Polish people were killed and our land was brutally occupied. Now we have another war just on the other side of our eastern border. Like you said: War is the worst thing invented by human kind. Thanks for your video. Hopfully we all learn from our history.
Learn from history? Not so much in Poland, one of the most antisemitic countries in the world despite having almost no Jewish population since WWII ended.
Many Polish civilians willingly helped the Nazis round up Jews. Polish still haven’t returned stolen Jewish property.
It was indeed hard for the poles, as the nazis commited war crimes against poles,
but The nazis did not target poles. The Nazis targeted Jews, and alot of poles helped them. Jews were not poles, neither the Jews in poland or the ethnic poles seen the jews as polish.
whats hard for you? She has said only about holocaust like they like to do. Nothing about the true victim, Poland. This Jews were polish. Our country was destroyed and robbed. If you ask some random German he will tell you that polish people were collaborating with Nazis xD thats what they know about ww2
My Polish friend always says he wish the German had won cause Russia was even worst to you then germans. War isnt a human thing, its a monkey thing. All monkeys go at war against other monkey clans. We are just an hairless ape🤷
Feli, what a marvelous ambassador of good will and understanding you are. This video is a gem; thank you for creating it. You struck an almost magical tone of forthrightness and realism. I'm an American Jew who grew up in the 1950's when WWII was still thick in the air. "What did your dad do during the war?" was constantly discussed among American boys growing up in the post-war era. You have humanized and demystified an important subject from the "other side" whom American kids rarely heard from. You are a shining example of goodness rising from the ashes of destruction.
This was a very interesting discussion. I am 56 years old, raised in the Chicago, Illinois area, and I am Jewish. Highland Park, the city I grew up in, and the surrounding area have many Jews and Jewish communities.
In 1979 I was in seventh grade. When the TV mini series you mentioned, the Holocaust, aired on American TV over four nights, we shifted from our normal homework to being assigned to watch the entire show. We had homework assignments and in class discussions all about it. This was an era in the United States in which Holocaust documentaries began to emerge showing us the true horrors of the persecution of Jews and others in WWII Germany. Despite the brutal imagery, I watched everything I could find, as did most other people I knew. Then, a most curious thing happened to me.
My father worked for Abbott Labs, based in Northern Illinois but with facilities around the world. He was a project manager and was working on a new facility in Wiesbaden. He traveled back and forth to Germany for about a year before announcing to us we would be moving near Frankfurt for 14 months. I was incredibly excited for this new adventure. I excitedly informed my classmates of our impending move. I was taken aback by their reaction. "You're moving where the Nazis are?!? Why would you ever do that?"
It had been 35 years since the end of the war, The United States had numerous military bases all around West Germany and it was common knowledge that being stationed there was a desirable deployment for American service men and women. Despite being only 12 years old, I was very aware Deutschland was a staunch ally and respected trading partner of the US. I had difficulty believing my classmates could be so anxious about my move.
When we arrived in Germany, our neighbors in Steinbach im Taunus were lovely. There were many children around my age in the neighborhood and we had great fun playing American football (using what was an alien object to them, a Nerf football,) and fußball. We rode our bikes all over town, went to the local pool, and played tag and other games. We never, ever discussed the war. My neighbors were fully aware of our being Jewish, but to my knowledge we never asked them about their war experience or their parents involvement, and they never asked us about our family history. For the record, although as a Jew I feel strongly about what happened in the Holocaust, my grandparents and great-grandparents (with the exception of one grandfather's parents) had immigrated to the US before WWI. I'm unaware who, if any of my family tree were direct victims of the Nazis To my knowledge, I have no ancestors who died in the camps. It did occur to me that these wonderful people, our friends, could very easily have family who were complicit in the crimes of the Nazis, but I refused to judge them on anything other than their kind treatment of me and my family.
We took a family trip that included Dachau. It was certainly moving to see the displays of iconic pictures I'd seen before of starving inmates and the ovens that were used to dispose of bodies, but that was not the most emotionally impactful memories I have of our visit. Rather, walking through the barracks, which at that time at least had the three high, bunk bed frames spaced so closely together, left an indelible impression on me. The thought of so many people, crammed in such a small space, really affected me.
I'm glad Germany has chosen to educate its children about the sins of the past to prevent them from ever being allowed to thrive in our future. I wish I could say the same for the US, which in many places has worked to whitewash our history of the sins of our own past. In recent years it's only gotten worse as white nationalist politicians parade themselves as average Americans, stirring up rage in constituents over race and religion.
Thank you, very much, for tackling this head-on. I didn't need to hear from Germans how they view the Holocaust and how it's taught in Germany, but I'm glad so many of you have been affected in a positive way by learning about horrors perpetrated by Adolph Hitler and the Nazi Party.
I had anexperience similar in SW France. We became friendly with a lovely belgian lady married a second time to a considerable older cultured & intelligent German husband. They knew my background vaguely and in the course of conversations I became aware he was an obligatory member of the Hitler Youth.
I knew of the HY but not that much. When I delved into it I appreciated he like most HY were actively involved in the likes of attacking German Jews during Crystal Nacht November 1938 and generally tormenting the Jews.
Was I wrong not to ask him of his past? Probably but in a social context in small rural area ? I still feel a bit guilty
Cry about it
I disagree with your stance on the US whitewashing slavery. It is taught, but not taught to the extent that WWII & Nazi Germany is in Germany.
WWII ended in 1945. Slavery in the United States ended officially in 1865.
Slavery was horrible and a stain on the entire world. No, slavery was not just a US issue. As the United States was embroiled in the American Civil War, many European countries started to outlaw slavery. Yes, slavery did happen in many countries of Europe.
@fantasticsound Great to hear of your experience. Thank you.
@gordon spicer No wrong or right here. I think you likely learned more about this man, and people in general, by being non-confrontational and observing how he reacted to you as a human being.
So 'white nationalism" is evil but Israel ethno nationalism is good? It's a well known fact that Israel conducts DNA tests for those applying for Israel¡ citizenship. Please tell us, what color skin do Israel¡ politicians have?
Feli. I appreciate your informative handling of a very difficult subject. I'd like to share a perspective as an American, son of a World War II army veteran. My father landed in Normandy and was a tank crewman all the way to Salzburg, Austria. He was haunted by his experiences for the rest of his life. My parents educated me about Nazism from a very young age and hated what it stood for. When I was in the third or fourth grade I asked my father whether he hated the German soldiers he had fought. His reponse was no. They had been drafted (conscripted) just as he had been and were obligated to serve their country as was he. I'm sharing this because I was taught not to believe in group guilt and certainly not inherited guilt.
I admire what you are doing. It is important to remember and openly discuss history. That having been said, I don't feel any young German nor nearly every old one should feel guilt for what happened in the war. There were guilty individuals certainly who are nearly all dead now. Actually, to confer something like guilt to a group of people not based on anything but an ethnic characteristic is the essence of Nazism itself. Germans today should carry no stigma.
Exceptionally well done. As a retired U.S. military officer I spent quite a bit of time in Germany and had the opportunity to visit several of the locations you mentioned. They were all respectful and thoughtful memorials to the people affected. Your video also covered these issues very well. Thanks!
Thank you for your service, sir!
Israel appreciates you fighting for their country.
They steriled black people lol
@@ken_caminitiYou’re welcome for my service
Thx Feli, that was great❗im 65yo 🇺🇸 man and I've been fascinated with WW2 since I was a kid. I've learned lots from my random following of your channel. I think I would say you and Germans are on the right track. I think you are a generation that should shed any guilt you might feel but never forget the lessons of the past. ALL people's and nations have ugly past. The secret for me has been to not let my passions become radicalized. . . you have a level head, keep that sister.please continue on you're doing good work!
Proud of the German people for facing what happened there. When I was 16 yrs old I was sitting on a park bench in the Bronx. An older lady came over and started to talk to me about her experience as a prisoner in a concentration camp. This was in 1975 or so. She showed me the numbers tattoo on her arm. It helped me change my perspective and as I look back I can only love that sweet old lady that took 20 minutes or so to share her story.
Don’t beat yourselves up too much . Although not mentioned there were large numbers of Poles , Russians , and Gypsies, homosexuals. And many other not mentioned by Spielberg.
Probably the “man on the spot” was George Patton. Interestingly he was court martialled after the war because of the large amount of god he has acquired.???? Regards.
About Americans being more informed about the military aspects of the war. I notice in American book stores "history" is mostly books on military history. I'm not sure this is a good thing. About education and popular culture, what I'm hearing that it increasingly dominated by people who despise the hoi poli and want to guilt trip them into accepting "punishment" ( cruelty ) from their "betters". It's also becoming more apparent that our rulers are also pedophiles. America has changed. From Potsdam to Nordstream America has gone from Cincinnatus to Caligula.
it wasnt the old lady that convinced u...its the years of mead ear indoc plus u believe the L eyes are pushed on skuul kids from aged 11
Sounds like a Mormon passing out their Book. Sounds like a Moonie selling flowers.
@@andrewmclaughlin2701 are you a complete asshole or are you having a stoke? You must be ten yrs old to say something like that.
Thank you for doing this. I’ve been curious about the topic for a long time. I’m a 76 year old man from California. Well done.
As a 54 years old German, I do agree on every single word. This is 100% in line with my experience. Couldn' t be explained in a better way. Thanks a lot!
The most impressive memorial for me in everyday life is the constant reminder on all paths through the stumbling stones.
Also the constant exchange with the old hereditary enemy France and a visit to the wonderful neighbours, e.g. in Alsace, make us understand the value of the European Union today. Never before have we had such a long period of peace in Europe. A visit to the battlefields of Verdun helps to appreciate this value.
You DO remember it was France who declared war upon Germany, right? You DO remember they INVADED Germany in 1939, right? You DO remember they invaded Germany in 1925, right? Yet, you feel bad about Germany attacking France? Seriously? Please learn about the Versailles Treaty, how it bled Germany dry, for a war Germany never started.
As a Kiwi born in England, of British ancestry, I am so disappointed that the English have chosen a Brexit divorce. High time they realized that their best future is to work with Germany and France to make a better world.
Yet Europe is pretty much at war today.
@@peternewman7940 It is people like you who destroy Britain. Did you know Britain and Germany fund by far the largest chunk of the EU payments, yet the unelected body of the EU can order Britain around? As you can see, I am an Nationalist of the highest order. I would go much, much further than Brexit. Are you to suggest a freed Britain cannot work with Germany and France? Why not? They have for almost a thousand years. What changed kid?
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'As a Kiwi born in England, of British ancestry'
WTF? What esle would you be if not of British ancestry my little anti-White racist??
Feli, that was an absolute gem of a video, well done, you handled that beautifully, I recommend this is shown in all schools all over the world.
As a german who is just finishing off my higher education (Fachabitur), I can very clearly remember how much the teachings of the subject affected me. We mostly discussed it in german class, history class and PoWi (Politics and Economy in english), which is actually a subject that was formed to keep awareness of our country's former actions. I remember us reading "the wave" in german class and then watching the movie. We also watched "Schindler's List" and "The boy in the striped pjama" the latter having quite a big impact on me. We also watched many documentations in history class and talked thoroughly about it in PoWi, especially the actions to change germany after the war. Visiting the Dachau holocaust was also mandatory, although I need to admit that I myself did not join my class on this trip. For a couple of years, the mere though of especially the holocaust brought tears to me and therefore me and my parents decided that I had a good enough impression of the horrors of the whole situation. The topic was always discussed in quite a brutal way, that conveyed responsibility and guilt.
It has now been 3-4 years since we first watched those movies that left such a big impression on me and I feel ready to talk about this. I have to say, writing this now makes me feel emotional all over again. But it was a good experience to watch this video. I actually remained silent through out, maybe out of respect for the topic or out of a sense of guilt for the past. Although I know that no one in my generation or even my parent's generation is directly responsible for any of this, it is still a topic that is often discussed with regrets. Now with the incline of voters for the AfD (a german right-wing political party) I feel scared for the future.
I know that is very likely that no one will ever find this comment (the video has almost 16 thousand comments as of writing this), but it felt important to make it. Even if just to get it off of my chest. Thanks for listening.
- Amy (18) from Kassel, Hessen, Germany
Did you learn at school what Rheinwiesenlager was? No? Why not?
Did you learn at school when and where the greatest mass rape in world history took place? If not, why not? Because it was in Germany after the war?
I can tell you what we don't get teached. We don't get teached that over 12 million german civilians got expropriated and expelled from their homeland after ww2 and that hundredthousands of Germans got killed even AFTER the capitulation on Mai 1945.
We don't get teached the details of the Versaille treaty and the consequences for the germans, we don't get teached the details of the system of "Re-education" and we don't get teached about the lost sovereignty and the still existing US Sonderrechte and UN Feindstaatklausel.
The history story of the former enemies who burned millions of women and children alive with phosphorus, napalm, and atomic bombs is guaranteed to be true. Guaranteed. How dumb can someone be?
Why is the report by the International Red Cross on its activities in the German camps during WW2 locked away in the Geneva archives and not publicly accessible? WHY?
Feli, thank you so much for your honesty and frankness concerning the NAZI period. I am not one of those Americans who would beat up on you for your birthplace or nationality. I believe that people should be willing to forgive, but never forget the horrors that occurred during that time. In the course of my engineering career, I worked with many Germans, and I found them to be kind, understanding, and quite joyful to know. I am so thankful that we can now be friends without worry of prejudice of the past. God bless you, young lady.
This is not your usual format of videos that I've happily watched and I was somewhat apprehensive about what might come out from your survey, but Feli, this was a fantastically written piece, with quality research and insight from your fellow country-people.
In the UK, we learned much about WWII and we did have many discussions about the battles and the Holocaust, but certainly not with the levels of intensity described in your video.
Thank you so much for doing this video in such a suitable and respectful manner, as I would never have known how our fellow European neighbours had learned about such sensitive subjects.
As you say, the Holocaust survivors are now fewer and whilst I never got to hear one speak, my children did at their school and I'm so pleased about that, as we can all learn about tolerance and respect in our modern society, especially in world within which we currently live. 👌
We were priviledged enough to have one come and speak at our middle school whilst we were reading Anne Frank: Diarry of a young girl. It was an eye opening experience.
Thank you for sharing this. I wish Japan would take this same honest approach to their history starting from the late 1800s to the end of WWII. The atrocities they committed against their neighbors was similarly heinous but what's more surprising is how many modern-day Japanese have NO idea of the atrocities committed nor the scope of said atrocities by Imperial Japan. It's not about assigning blame or inducing guilt, but learning from past mistakes so that history does not repeat itself (ensure everlasting peace).
Such policies are mostly only there for inducing guilt on the people of the losing side's countries. After all, I see almost no Russians feeling sorry for the mass rapes and murders commited upon german civilians after the red army drung into german core territory.
Maybe all the Japanese Billionaires and Millionaires OUGHT TO spend ALL of their fucking money turning AT LEAST ONE Philippine City into a SAFE AND PROSPEROUS ONE!!!
No Japanese deserves to be a Millionaire or a fucking Billionaire until the Philippines and Brunei are FIRST WORLD FUCKING NATIONS!!!
Young people in Japan may not have a thorough knowledge of the specifics of their nations history, but they have more awareness than probably any other nations surrounding the concept that a severe lack of certain values led to one of their darkest and most shameful points in history. The Japanese are very in touch with this, they just don’t have a culture that proliferates guilt on these matters. It’s a completely different country today. Different government, military, social classes, cultural values etc have all been dramatically reformed to prevent similar occurrence in their future. Honestly very few countries if any have done as much to prevent the crimes of their past being propagated in the future. Just because a country promotes cross generational shame doesn’t mean that they will avoid the same pitfalls of 20th century that all the axis powers fell in to. It really helps to understand what has to take place at a national level psychologically for any of the 20th century nightmares to take place. Many countries which push the whole “guilt needs to be a main driver into the future” are currently at risk of acting out a lot of what we’ve seen in the early to mid 20th century. There’s a lot data and social science on this matter which is thoroughly corroborated by modern and historical geopolitical sciences.
This honestly sounds like the kind of well mannered anti-Japanese rhetoric that comes out of modern day China which is usually through some sort of emotional appeal to morality and judgment. China is actually one of the countries where “progress” is heavily driven by fear and guilt, and when you think about it you can really start to understand where this sort of rhetoric comes from in the first place.
None of what you’re saying here is very well supported by reality. Japan has stripped itself of the military capability to commit such crimes in the future. They’ve infused their economy with literally enemies to their freedom in order to prevent future crimes as well. If you ask Japanese students to tell you about specifics dates and battles of their WWII crimes they probably can’t give you many details, but they will be able to tell you what lack of cultural values weren’t present during those times and why they hold them so dear now. They will all tell you that this specific version of Japan from the 20th century was literally aligned with evil, and they utterly reject the ideologies of those times in a way that few nations have been capable of. Most modern Germans probably can’t tell you why so many Germans supported the Nazis during their reign. This subject has honestly done more to advance modern psychology and psychoanalysis than any other single subject and again there is just a ton of data which can support the points I’m making.
I guarantee there will be a response to this comment in vicious defense of China that proceeds to say something like “well what about America doing XYZ” because that’s literally what people are trained to say in response to a comment like mine in a discussion like this. We call these sorts of actors of the communist party wumao or members of the 50 cent army.
The links between USA and the rise of the nazis party to stop communist in the east thats another topic of henesty
Henry Ford factory was used to produce engins for the germans
That idea can be taken too far as the idea of race based slavery is being taken in the US far enough to cause our citizens to burn our own flag.
I'm Polish, so this topic is obviously discussed at schools, I remember learning about it around the age of 16. We watched movies, read books, poems and diaries about this topic, but we also learned about Hitler, how it all progressed and what were the exact steps during the war, tactics and artillery used. Very little was said about what happened to Germany after the war, as our focus shifted to Poland being under communist rule. I am living in Warsaw in the area heavily impacted by the war, and there are lots of memorials (mostly from Warsaw Ghetto, Warsaw Concentration Camp and Warsaw Uprising), so it's hard to miss that either way.
You Polish are some of the toughest on earth! From here in the States, best of luck!
After the end of WW2 Poland was under communist rule?
That's quite interesting. I'm not sure if it's something I learned at school but forgot, or didn't learn at all.
You have to admit it's ironic.
Whatever your thoughts on AH, he did intend to rid Europe of Communism, and many expert's, both back then and in today's days say Germany was pushed into a war that AH said never wanted. Curiously of all the peace proposals from AH, all mentioned that Germany would remove their troops from the invaded lands. They were always rejected by the great churchill who admited wanting the war.
churchill was so enamored with Poland, and wanted to protect your homeland from the horrible nazis so much that after they capitulated your nation, he never once thought about you guys again. He only needed you so he could start the war in the first place.
Thankfully your country won the fight against the communist plague and is now an amazing place for Poles to live in. It's more than I can say for my country.
@@MilkmanPT
Well yes, up until 1989 actually.
Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact left Poland divided between Nazi Germany and Soviet Union. Once Germany lost the war and was retreating from Poland, Soviet Union assumed control over the country (Poland attempted to fight for their sovereignty with Warsaw Uprising - this was when the Germany still had control over the city, but right before the Red Army came - yet failed miserably). Our nation is feisty but was never particularly lucky with neighbours nor allies.
All those events unfortunately still haunts us and our politics are heavily fear-based to this day (For example during elections connecting politicians with either Russians or Germans to use as an argument against voting for them, etc)
You polish folk need to learn how to drive! So many accidents
Aren't Jewish groups like the ADL trying to implicate you guys in the Holocaust now too?
Guten Tag aus Cincinnati.
I’m also a transplant to Cincinnati, but only from Michigan. I had the opportunity to visit Germany in high school. Munich is a great city. Dachau was tough to see because it was so tangible. The stumbling stones were interesting to learn about. I’m sure I’ve seen them in Europe and not noticed the significance.
I was glad to see Karina’s response that she wasn’t taught to feel guilty. Americans have a dark past as well through the slave trade. We must acknowledge and move forward from the past.
Your video bridges the gap in cultures and helps bring unity to a world that needs more of that. Thank you.
The more I watch these, the more I notice your attributes that are just as you describe Germans… direct, precise thorough, no filler small talk..
also fearless on topics! Thanks very the history summary!
Wonderful👌
I’m glad my family was out of Germany before either of the world wars but I am also MAD AS HELL they left because apparently my soul never left. Lol.
Hi Feli, thanks for an excellent video on this sensitive topic. As an Israeli who’s worked with many Germans (still do) and has visited Germany many times for both work and leisure, I’ve always found Germans to be well informed on this topic. Most Germans living today are of course not to blame for what their grandparents or great grandparents did, but knowing the facts and accepting the historical context is important. Whenever the Holocaust was brought up, it was always by my German counterparts who were either curious about my family history in that regard, or simply wanted to broach the topic and address what they thought was the elephant in room (it isn’t, I don’t feel compelled to ask every German I meet about it…)
I wish other countries were as honest and astute about teaching their unrevised histories as Germany is about this topic.
I had no idea Germany was so forthcoming about that sad time! Thank you!
I wish my country (America) was so forthcoming in its own affairs. Instead we try to change the narrative so it doesn't appear so bad. Even to this day with all the infighting in Congress. I didn't think something like Hitler could happen again but Putin scares me. Thank you for your stories, I'm half German but not born there, my grandfather was but never spoke to my father about it. I sometimes feel a little guilty about it too.
I honestly couldn't believe people could do such things. Until I saw dudes in south central L.A. beat people up with no compunction, remorse or tinge of humanity on there faces. I had someone rob me with a gun in my face and the look on his face was cold, uncaring and terrifying.
So watch out, people can still be like that. In this day and age, with all the history to look back on you'd think that wouldn't be the case. Sorry I'm rambling but you put so many thoughts in my head, forgive me.
Well done Feli! Breaking down such a big topic isn’t easy. I love the efforts you went through and hope you’re proud. The end result is amazing :)
Dankeschön 🥲das du so großartig und detailliert zusammengefasst hast was uns 🇩🇪 auf dem Herzen liegt. Ich bin 42, mein Opa ist im Krieg gewesen und mit 93 gestorben, er hat erst nach den 90'ern die schrecklichen dinge erzählt die gewesen sind. Heute bin ich mit einem Texaner aus Longview zusammen der 51 ist,(Das hat uns auf deinen tollen Kanal gebracht ).Das Thema ist extrem interessant für uns. Wir sind auch oft in Amerika und das Thema Holocaust ist immer präsent wenn Leute hören das man aus Deutschland kommt. Ich persönlich habe verinnerlicht das ich die Vergangenheit leider nicht ändern kann, ABER! Wir haben die Verantwortung zu tragen das es nicht vergessen wird. Das schreckliche Opfer das durch den Krieg entstanden ist, ist so groß das wir einfach verpflichtet sind Aufklärung zu schaffen und fragen von Menschen aus anderen Ländern zu beantworten.
Feli . . . first let me say that your English is absolutely amazing. (Scarcely any foreign accent.) My family hosted four exchange students from Koln, and my brother and I learned much from them. What was never discussed (as teens 30 years ago wouldn't) was your topics in this video. THANK YOU so much for addressing this, especially in these times of differing cultures trying to understand each other. You seem to be wise beyond your years, and I hope you continue to educate the US viewers to look beyond our borders. It is MUCH NEEDED.
Her english is faultless .which amazed. I don't hear any accent. If she didn't say she was from munich I would think she was an American.
A friend of mine, also a German, speaks pretty much excellent English without any accent.
I wish she kept more of her foreign accent but I think Feli can turn it on and off at will. Linguistics is her specialty.
Imagine that. A girl that has been living in US for years speaking excelent english.
@@absolutedegenerat3372 It is amazing. Generally anyone who is speaking a non-native tongue has an accent, no matter how many years they've been in a new country and no matter how hard they try not to have their accent. Only exceptions I know are linguistic professionals or people that learned their second language as very young children. When older children learn they often still can't hear the nuances enough to not have an accent, so she's really special unless she learned English very early on. It's impressive! But hey, you go on being sarcastic and thinking just anyone can do this if they live somewhere else a few years.
I like the response from Karina from Dortmund where she said that "We were never told to feel guilty". One of my favorite sayings is "Don't be afraid of history." The past should be studied to learn both the positive and negative so we can promote the positive patterns and learn how to NOT repeat the negative aspects of society.
We can see a move to more Nationalistic patterns in many parts of the world. This is where history class pays off. Work hard to keep things from degrading into hatred, violence and war.
"Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." Wise words... even if they are from a little green puppet in a movie.
The problem isnt the "National" part it is the Socialism part that kills millions of people. You can look up the "top 10 list of state leaders who mass murdered in the last 100 years" = 9 socialist (E.g. Mao, Stalin, Lenin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Kim family, Mussolini, etc...) and 1 King (King of Belgium)
It is like you have "Car Driving terrorists" and suddenly you say that all Car Drivers are killers and the problem. No terrorist are the problem in that example. "National SOCIALIST" are leftwing and not rightwing and the problem is not being national focussed. Because all national states should be national focussed that is the idea of national states. That is why the left always wants to ban borders and form "Welt Reichs".
You know that "Nationalist" are for all people of their country? So for all races, for all two sexes, for the rich and the poor, for gays and straights, for all religions and even atheists.
It is the left that forms groups and elivates one above the other. The left are the -ists people!
Ganghi for instance was a stout nationalist. Churchill as well. And yes Trump is one too. But the lefts smear campaign, was called back then propaganda, works pretty well. Billions of people worldwide are brain washed.
Socialism has NOTHING TO DO with being social. Quite the opposite.
jesteś pewien że uczysz się prawdziwej historii??? a nie kłamstwa??? zastanawiałeś się kiedyś dlaczego rzekomo nacjonalizm jest zły??? czy demokracja nie pochodzi od wspólnot narodowych? od Greków? nie jest największą wadą nacjonalizmu to że na podstawie narodu dziś nie da się budować imperiów??? Rosja USA Chiny Indie czy nawet pomniejsza Turcja niewolą narody! innymi słowy nacjonalizm jest dla nich zagrożeniem! jednocześnie więzi etniczne narodowe to jedne z silniejszych więzi między ludźmi stąd te próby budowania "nowych" narodów opartych o jakiś wydumanych wartościach ale też pacyfikacja i niszczenie wchłanianych narodów! dlaczego Niemcy wymordowały Żydów? bo się z nimi nie zintegrowali! żyli we własnym świecie obok nich! dlaczego mordowano Polaków? bo po 123 latach niewoli odbudowali własną państwowość! Niemcy to było (i nadal po części jest) państwo totalitarne! oni nie znali demokracji! stąd te obrzydliwe zbrodnie popełniane przez cały naród! nie dlatego że stanowili naród! ale dlatego że nie znali demokracji! demokracja przyjechała do nich na amerykańskich czołgach!
a co do nauki historii to czy wiesz dlaczego obozy śmierci powstały na ziemiach dzisiejszej Polski???
Now you have me fearing fear and that makes me angry!
@piusvapor you must learn the ways of history and become a Jedi...
I went to school in Germany, but as an American. I always found that the young people around my age were much more open and willing to discuss the holocaust than most older folks. I had the opportunity to visit Dachau and hear stories from a survivor. It was much more than I feel like many of my American peers learned and really understood about the subject. Excellent video and thank you.
Same just got back from visiting Dachau. Literally spent the entire day there and it was the most chilling place I visited on my trip. Its one thing to be told about something its an entirely different experience to physically interact with it.
Did you immigrate from America to Germany and later went back to america or did you fully grow up in Germany and then immigrated to America?
In high school, we went to Dachau from my school in Switzerland. It was over 50 years ago and I still remember everything. It had a profound effect on me. I think often of the millions of lives lost in both world wars and How our world would be a different place.
I think they go a little too far bringing the topic into music and geology . Really should just stay in history, civics and maybe language arts. I think you create a counter culture when you inject it into unrelated topics . It’s like what’s going on in US where people will bring up politics in completely unrelated things . It gets exhausting
I have also visited the concentration camp in Dachau with my school and I really learned a lot there. I am a German going to school in the US at the moment. Interesting coincidence.
I’m glad I found your videos. They are very entertaining. I am German on my mother side who is all German and who fled Germany with my grandparents right after World War I and came to America because they knew what was building with Hitler and the third reich And they didn’t want my grandparents to have to grow up with that, so I really love your videos. You’re doing a great job.
History is not for us to like or dislike. It's for us to learn from. Feli I am grateful for all your work on this and everyone who took the time to answer your questions. I remember two of my history teachers using the term Nazis instead of Gemans during that time period. Sending love too everyone in Germany
pfff, "History is not for us to like or dislike." If only people actually practiced that when addressing history and past crimes. People have poisoned study of historic events with their emotional attachment to human suffering that should be addressed separately.
You are exactly right Ca and if we don't learn from it, we may repeat it.
If we learn anything from history, its that no one learns anything from history and it tends to repeat itself.
some, like the current regime of China and many other Nations in history, they look back on history not for avoiding the mistake that was Socialism... But how to do Socialism Right, how to do Socialism without losing the reins of power as you murder and marginalize your own populace. They see The Nazis and their only mistake to learn from history was how they ended up losing.
I get pretty Furious when looking at German History of the 19th century. The was a boatload of opportunity to create a modern German state even before WW 1. Prussian blue blood militarism and their boneheadedness ruined a lot
I did 3 tours in Germany with the US Army between 1978 and 1987. I found the Germans to be honest and forthright about their Nazi past. As the son of a WW2 veteran it was refreshingly interesting to learn about the war from the German side especially the veterans of the German Whermacht, Waffen-SS, Hitler Youth who fought as teens, and Luftwaffe's paratroopers. Thanks Feli for this video.
Wow, so you were over there when the Berlin wall was still up? I remember seeing that wall come down when I was about 22 and it was the best thing ever.!! it’s hard to believe how the Soviets treated them and I can understand how the Russians were so angry because they were invaded and stabbed in the back by Hitler, but the Soviets treated the East Germans so badly treated them so badly. People were starving and search widespread natural disaster because Berlin was blown to pieces and for years, the United States was taking stuff across the border, and then the Russians build the wall, and they had to do the Berlin airdrops so they can drop food and all kinds of things for babies, including blankets and coats, and things like that, because nobody knew if the Soviets were providing for them at all and they weren’t before. Sad!!
If you believe gentile-nations reign themselves after already the pagans were slaughtered by subverted gentile aristocrazy to install the sio-psyop Christianity you are wrong, the Nazi thing was jewish, one goal was creation of Israel, another goal slaughter and demonize gentiles, especially Germans, because we are the descendants of Amalek for them.
@@montrelouisebohon-harris7023 Yes. I was there during the Cold War. Sometimes things got a little tense when the then Warsaw Pact nations were on annual major military exercises just across the border in then East Germany. NATO was on occasion likewise holding such annual exercises too. Thankfully nothing came of it. I'd like to one day return to see a reunified Germany. The Wall came down while I was attending college and was in the Army Reserve then. I was just as amazed as everyone else never thinking for a second if I'd live to see it.
Tim Heavrin, you mean Wehrmacht, but what did learn from your time in West Germany, can't imagine you spent much time in East Germany. Since, the soviets hated the Americans, and vice versa. Not much has changed since then. Plus, Germany as it is known today didn't exist between 1978 and 1987.
Hi Tim like you I did 2 tours in West Germany in the Royal Air Force (RAF) I was there in the 80's and my second tour was when the Berlin wall came down. I since have lived and worked in Germany in Aviation working for the various airlines. I have a lot of German and Dutch friends from my Military life there and I have visited my old Bases that I served at sadly they are all no longer in use. The town of Gutersloh which was my last posting a friend married a local girl who's mother is a Town councillor, she say's they would love the British back as when we left we took about 20,000 people out of the Towns economy which has made a huge difference. I Love the place and the people as like you my Grandfathers both fought in WW2 and I met men who had fought against our RAF which was interesting to hear their views.
Feli, you’ve become something of an ambassador and educator! I really appreciate you!
What a beautifully filmed presentation! My father was a POW in Stalag Luft I located in Barth. Since I have 50% German blood 🩸 I have always held a fascination for Germany, and the German people. I also have an insatiable curiosity concerning the Shoah, I have been studying it for over 45 years now. I was incredibly fortunate to have flown as a flight attendant for TWA for over 35 years, many of my layovers were in Germany. I really do have to say that my favorite layover was in Bavaria… Munich to be specific.I always enjoyed my time in Germany, and since 75 years old now I don’t think that I will be returning anytime soon. It is indeed regrettable what transpired during the dark time that came over your country, I’m grateful 1:52 that I did not have to live through any of that. I was born four years after the end of World War II, and my father used to answer all of my questions, very honestly concerning his life in Germany while prisoner. As a matter of fact, my sister and I used to say that he probably collaborated because he was a very good friend of one of the German guards in the German guard used to take him to town all the timelike they were best buddies. I even remember seeing pictures when I was four years old in 1953 of my father’s Wehrmacht guard and myself when we were touring Europe after a Station assignment. You did a wonderful job filming this!
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Feli, It is very refreshing hearing such a comprehensive discussion of this topic from a German's point of view. I am of German descent, lived in Stuttgart & Berlin in the '60s and now live in Massachusetts. There are so many things happening in the world today very similar to what Germans endured in the '40s through the early '90s. I really believe they could teach us a lot about how to recognize the mistakes we are making even today. American democracy is so fractured around hate, nationalism, racism, authoritarianism, fascism, disinformation and Orwellian censorship in schools. I was in West Berlin on the day the USSR stormed Czechoslovakia and massed their army on the Polish border less than 80 km away. History repeats.
Harry Truman said: "The only thing new in the world is the history you don't know."
I commend the attitude that present-day Germans need not feel guilty for what others have done, but rather maintain a responsibility to remember what happened, why it did, and how to keep it from happening again. I hope Americans will recognize how at-risk they are before things go too far.
I also am from German descent and I agree with everything you said.
You are right to a degree but most of what you said is based upon minority groups having a mic to convey their feelings. majority of united states citizens are not racist in the slightest and I guarantee that number is above 90% today. We are proud and the basis of our society comes from war so naturally we are hard headed. If it came to the defense of this country, we would not hesitate to die for one another regardless of race or ideology. Anyway, to reiterate, you are right degree.
if only u knew what the real facts are
American democracy doesn't exist, and it hasn't for years now.
I'm worried that if I'm not reminded every so often how horrible slavery is, i might start enslaving black people.
Great video. As a dual Polish and American citizen, this is a topic that has interested me my entire life. My great-grandmother used to tell me first-hand stories about her experience in the war. My great-grandmother and grandmother(as a child) were both in Warsaw during the Uprising.
I'd like to mention something I don't often enough see Germany receive sufficient praise for. Germany is a shining example of the power of enlightenment and transformation. A nation once consumed by darkness, it has become a beacon of light in the modern world. It proves, beyond a doubt, that change is always possible.
Thk U 🙏& Thats the first time I ever read such a comment. In my 55 years on earth I was raised as Feli explains it perfectly. It got stucked deep in my heard and brain what germany did in WW II & Holocaust. I don´t feel to be real guilty(in a way I do) to what happend because I am much to young BUT I feel the very strong reponsibility that these or similar things can´t happen again. I was always against right winged pardies in germany. But I don´t stop at the borders of germany. For me "Never again" means everywhere. I try to tell people from everywhere to learn out of the mistakes germans made in these dark germany history years. A Problem what we have in germany is that these times where differently refurbished in the two totally different school systems in West and in East Germany. As a Westgerman raised I only can guess that in the east it was more like "the Nazi´s are all in West germany and they are guilty not us" I is hard for me to understand that the extrem right wingend Pardies always get the most votes in former east german parts. Maybe it would be goood if some one of my age and Eastgermany raised would explain his view to it. Maybe me I am wrong here. I like to learn about other views about why there is the difference. That is what we always should do. Learn to under stand the others view. For me the most importantthing what everyone need to learn is Emphathy !!! More Empathy, less wars !
Germany still did not pay reparations for war for Poland even tho it was the most destroyed country and first victim they are saying it is expired but world crimes never expire German country do not want to pay because of how much it is and they did not even give back what they stolen what a democratic country they are or rather try to act like one .
You mean "bacon of light" 😂
This is so very true
I hope u r right. We need some change is the USA. pls pray for us
This popped up in my feed & I’m glad about it. I’m a 53 year old Brit & my father served in WWII. He was a Tanker who landed on D Day and went all the way to Germany. He was involved in the liberation of Belsen. Full respect to you for tackling this subject & to Germany. I love being a Tourist in German. It’s a great Country & seems very compassionate. Britain has lost its way IMO.
The UK is not alone in one regard: the US has totally lost its way.
@@sylversyrfer6894 As a American I can confirm that us Americans have lost our way, Our structure is in shambles as well as our leaders & no peace we’ve lost our order, The people’s voices have been silenced. But that’s just it we know sex drugs money trans LGBTQ etc all in that order
All peoples eventually lose their way, the US is in that groove now under current regime….. and we hope to reverse this soon.
if you're father knew the full extent of modern society. he would have joined the British SS
Everything you just said but from me change UK to America ,
change tanker to infantry( prisoner of war )
My grandfather would Be Completely disgusted if he was alive today to see what has become of the US
Our govt has crashed our country intentionally.
I'm disgusted w the attitude of people and politics in the US these days
Also I got so much respect for this video this popped in my feed also and I was thinking " I don't wanna watch this shit. .. " gave it 2 minutes and ended up watching it 2 times in a row .
Great vid for sure .
This is the best coverage of "Germans today and WWII" I've seen on UA-cam, thank you Feli. Also, the Stumbling Stones were new to me and I think such is an amazing memorial idea. If I'm ever in Europe, I"ll keep my eyes open.
Großartige Arbeit!, Feli! Well done! Danke, dass du dich kümmerst- das ist so wichtig
I can understand that you like this Porpagnda! :)
You're really good at documentary-style content, Feli. I'm sure you've heard that before. This, for me, was your best video ever. Thank you.
You all have no idea here. That's propaganda! I have lived in this country for a long time. I was also at school and had history lessons. They only blame the Nazis. The nation is absolved of guilt.
This was incredibly well done. Super informative and beautifully presented. No awkward pauses.. no "uhh's" and desperate groping for words. You were engaging right to the finish!
I was stationed in Schweinfurt in 1991-1993 with the US Army. I loved listening to you reading in German. I don't understand it anymore but it made me feel young.
Thank you for this video!
My father was German, a child during WWII. My grandfather was SS, one of my great-uncles is still (as far as I know) considered missing in action on the Russian front. The home my father's family lived in during and just after the war is in Dachau, I remember, when visiting Germany with my father, combining a stop to see his childhood home with a tour of the KZ and memorial. One of his earliest memories was, as a child, looking out towards Munch from Dachau, and see the sky as it glowed as the city burned from allied bombs. After the war, as he grew older, was a much stronger memory, of course, not the impressions of a young child. He talked about attending school in shifts (you were assigned to either morning or afternoon classes) due to a lack of both schools and teachers, and earning money for university expenses doing construction in the late 1950s efforts at rebuilding. (He earned his PhD in chemistry, and eventually wound up working in Kodak in Rochester, NY in research, your family probably took pictures on film he helped work to improve, and had them developed on paper his work improved, as well.)
My father's experience learning about WWII seems parallel to my experiences learning about Vietnam as a high school student in the US in the 1980s. It was too recent to make it into the history books, to far back to be current events, and still a living memory for my teachers, who tended to take for granted that this was something people just knew from experiencing it. His understanding was to a certain extent shaped by post-war slogans and public reeducation, e.g. "Never Again a German Soldier."
My father was profoundly anti-war and anti-fascist, and deeply resented that Germany was re-militarized, which he felt was under US pressure, as part of the Cold War. One of the last political conversations we had, as my father's dementia progressed, was leading up to the US 2016 presidential reaction. He was quite clear that the Republican candidate at that time (who shall remain unnamed here to hopefully avoid the attention of search bots on your page) was "a N@zi" and "just like H!tler." (Words again obscured to help keep out unwanted searches...)
My father was quite willing to talk about WWII, and the associated atrocities, seriously, with anyone. However, he was not at all comfortable with any sort of jokes, either about the war (which was a living memory of horror, for him), it's aftermath, or the Holocaust and associated persecutions and atrocities.
Just wondering if we knew each other. We wound up living in Henrietta NY for seven years 67-74. I had a paper route close to RIT.
Clearly, ALL kinds of ordinary decent Gemans were swept along with the tide of fear as the nazis became completely entrenched in every aspect of ordinary day to day life, whether you fully approved of their false propaganda lies or not. There was a film on YT showing inside a German Cinema, just after the war, that was full of ex German Military men. They were forced to watch Allied News Reel scenes, of the discovery and opening of the Death Camps. Many of these young Germans were in tears, and watched through cupped hands over their eyes.
Your father isn't alone with his thoughts about that candidate. I see him as still a want'a be.
This is a topic I have thought about a number of times. I’m a 71 year old American woman who is encouraged by what I have learned here. I truly appreciate your efforts to educate and inform. You are a bright and sensitive young woman.
I don't think she is. She is the perfect example that anti-German propaganda is just as alive as 1945.
This is a good effort.
Lesson has to be learned so that this kind is not reenacted.
Thank Q🎉❤
I really like the German flag, I ain't gonna lie and also I have deep admiration for German culture but only thing that disappoints me is that they are so less patriots. Let me say this whenever I hear the word "Germany", nazi / h*tler aren't the first thing that comes to my mind, that is the thing of the past, don't cope just move on. Just like in the US, I hope to see those beautiful German flags on top of people's houses in Germany while I'm still alive. peace
Ich mag die deutsche Flagge wirklich, ich werde nicht lügen und ich habe auch große Bewunderung für die deutsche Kultur, aber das Einzige, was mich enttäuscht, ist, dass sie so wenig Patrioten sind. Lassen Sie mich das sagen, wann immer ich das Wort „Deutschland“ höre: Nazis/H*tler sind nicht das Erste, was mir in den Sinn kommt, das gehört der Vergangenheit an, komm nicht zurecht, geh einfach weiter. Genau wie in den USA hoffe ich, noch zu Lebzeiten diese schönen deutschen Flaggen auf den Dächern der Häuser in Deutschland zu sehen. Frieden
How does two world wars find germans in the middle? How nice it must be to forget your own pain while countless families suffered their losses and sometimes there were no bodies to bury. What really did happen? is there a repeat to come did we learn something? Maybe its not war maybe we tolerate evil and for what? I would not want to be a survivor my conscience would not let, yes I get it the shame the hideous actions of one leader, I am not a german but you did not stand up against this tyrant now you live with the shame it was a difficult time in history so good for you germans who stand a up . Many of those who lived through this are now gone. As long as we treat this as just something that happened History has a way of repeating. Abhoring 😢 Germany we forgive you. God have mercy on us all.
@@raytafoya9046wtf? 😂
Thank you for discussing this topic so forthrightly. I know it had to be difficult for you.
I must tell this story: Around 2000, when I was living in Chicago, my curiosity sent me to a rundown bar in my neighborhood. I sat at the bar & met an 80-ish year old man from Bavaria. I realized this would be my only opportunity to talk to someone who witnessed the rise of the Third Reich. I asked him what he remembered. He was about 13 when Hitler came to power as Chancellor, so he was aware of what was going on. He explained Germany was flat on its back economically due to reparations from WW1. There was a feeling of hopelessness everywhere. After the collapse of the Weimar Republic, they were willing to give him a try. First thing he did was make the trains run on time. The feeling was, if he can do that, let's give him more party members & see what he could do. There were public works and other things that improved people's lives. He repeatedly denied knowing about systemic attacks on Jews or the Holocaust; he said he learned about those after the war. As a teenager, he admitted getting swept up in the emotion, though he had suspicions of people's fervent following. He learned what was going on behind the scenes after the war. He realized he had been duped and was visibly angry that he had been manipulated.
I'm so happy that I took the chance to ask him and doubly happy he was so open. It was like he was waiting for someone to tell his story to. My advice: If you have a chance like this, take that chance. If they say "Get lost", you've lost nothing. But if they open up, you'll have a view of history you'll never learn from books.
"He repeatedly denied knowing about systemic attacks on Jews or the Holocaust; he said he learned about those after the war."
The usual cop-out of that generation. I talked with enough of them to know that this is a lie. They DID know, they made an effort to not notice.
@@Quotenwagnerianer
Absolute nonsense.
"I talked to enough of them" Lol.
My mother LIVED through the war. Her side of the family is German. My grandfather fought in the war. They did more than "talk to people" about it.
Unless they were in the middle of a major city, they would not have known about the mass roundups.
Of course they knew that Jews were rounded up, but that's exactly the same thing that is happening in America right now. A certain group of the population has been singled out for their politics and are being arrested without charge and sentenced by corrupt judges, yet half the country cheers it on because they are brainwashed by media. Exactly the same situation.
Playing Call of Duty of course makes you an expert I'm sure. In the video game, everybody knew what was happening to the Jews, right?
All your cartoon characters explained to you what happened, I'm sure.
@@dialecticalmonist3405 "Of course they knew that Jews were rounded up, but that's exactly the same thing that is happening in America right now. A certain group of the population has been singled out for their politics and are being arrested without charge and sentenced by corrupt judges, yet half the country cheers it on because they are brainwashed by media. Exactly the same situation."
You did not just compare... oh. my. God...
Get your ass out of your head. Fast!
And you are talking to a german you dingus!
Not some "My mother's side is german and my grandfather lived through the war"-dude who thinks he has it all figured out. I live IN Germany. I think I know what I''m talking about.
My Grandfather was in a russian POW camp. I remember the fights my father had with him because he feigned ignorance to the Holocaust.
So don't talk to me as if you had any first clue about anything.
@@Quotenwagnerianer Complete bullshit. Life back then did NOT transcend your village or the next one. There was no smartphones, no internet, there was no TV, ppl barely had radios.
It simply happened behind most peoples backs... Always so easy from someones perspective who grew up in peaceful & easy times, judging people who you know nothing of.
Shame on you
@@Quotenwagnerianer -- I'm sure they were caught up in the 'blaming the Jews' thing, but they didn't know about the death camps, because after the war, the Americans were was so po'd at the horror they found at the death camps that they dragged German citizens in to see it (and this is on film), and they were visibly horrified. I don't think there's any way they could know about the death camps. Even the allies didn't believe the leaked death camp intelligence stories until they finally saw them after the war.
Congratulations Feli. You’ve covered a (still) sensitive subject in a very balanced and well thought out manner. I grew up in The Netherlands and when in secondary school, the topic of World War II was covered quite extensively, although not nearly as much as I now know young Germans learn in their schools. I remember in the 1980s Helmut Kohl was the German Bundeskanzler, and the relationship between The Netherlands and Germany was … not so much ‘tense’, but more ‘loaded’. World War II was never far away, I felt. And then, in the late 80s, two things happened: in 1988 The Netherlands won - in Munich no less - the European Championships. I sensed that for my parents’ generation, this meant a lot (many saw it also as a revenge for the 1974 WM). And then, over a year later, November 9th, 1989 happened. And I remember how on the following Monday our German teacher asked our class if we knew what historic event happened that weekend, if we appreciated the importance - I’m sure most of us didn’t, we were 16 at the time. In February 1990 she took our class on a three day trip to Berlin, both West and East. That trip helped me a lot in realizing Germany is so much more than World War II. And I think in the 1990s, the relationship between The Netherlands and Germany normalized a lot, and nowadays World War II is still an important lesson in our history, but it is no longer as dominant as it was in the 80s and 90s. Thanks again for making such a good video.
As an United States Of America Citizen, born and raised, I learned about World War II from not just school, but also from the fact that my father's father served in the US Army and was a paratrooper… he also served in the Korean War and retired Master Sergeant after 21 years of service… but to the point, I also have read the book "Night" by Elie Wiesel… my father also one of the oldest children was born in 1949… I don't know where it is, but I remember me and my father have read my grandfather's book talking about going AWOL when sent to NYC base because he was from the country area of Augusta Georgia…
Feli: Hut ab! And many thanks for putting in the time and effort to make this video. As an American born to a German mother, this topic has been with me my whole life long - I am now 83. I first engaged with it in earnest during my junior year in Munich in 1960-61 where I connected with German relatives and for a time entertained the possibility of taking on German citizenship. Instead I got distracted by a chance to go to Japan and ended up living there for 24 years. That meant I got to watch how Germans and Japanese both processed their history of WWII up close, and personally. I am convinced the Germans have done a far better job of it, by the way. Now, with loyalty to three countries, Japan, Germany and the U.S., and with so much water under the bridge, I've come to feel that the focus should be less on the particulars of war crimes (in Germany and Japan) and on slavery and genocide (in the U.S.) and more on how easily the human race can go wrong. I reject the biblical curse of "visiting the iniquity of the fathers unto the third and fourth generation." I don't find any justification for taking on somebody else's guilt and shame. At the same time, I believe that if you belong to a nation - like Germany, Japan or the U.S. - that has committed inhuman crimes, I believe you should take responsibility for keeping track - as you just did so marvelously - of how your countrymen and women process these crimes. Not just with slogans like "nie wieder Krieg" but with in-depth understanding of how fascism can take root and grow, and how we can learn from history.
I absolutely agree but I want to add that if you dig far enough in the past (for most nations not that far) you will find such inhuman crimes. You will find a lot of them in every nations history and through much of humankinds history it was normal. We tend to get caught up by resent crimes because they are a lot better recorded, bigger in scale and of course closer to the present. The scale is only limited by the possibilitys of every given timeframe.
So pointing at others is always hypocritic and that adds to what you said. We have a responsibility of keeping track but keeping track of just what your ancestors have done will leave you blind for the majority of threats. So I would say we have a responsibility of keeping track with all of historys dark sides and everyone has it regardless of where we come from.
@@grischnach2556 Well i agree about that every nation has dark history / dark past the problem is when some things in history are more recent like the nazis and the concentration camps in Germany, the racial laws in USA etc etc
That hard stuff gives certain image/ reputation.
Herr McCornick ... ich ziehe den Hut: Ihr Kommentar spricht auch aus meinem Herzen, wenngleich ich nicht über eine soooo große Erfahrung wie sie verfüge. Auch toll, daß wirklich alle Generationen sich heute so miteinander unterhalten, diskutieren, verständigen können ... und abschließend toll, daß wir alle diesen Kanal von Feli gefunden haben. Beste Grüße
@@grischnach2556 yes and no. I agree that all people have the potential to inflict horrible crimes on others, but the degree and extent to which they succeed greatly depends on the killing capacity of their weapons of war (and other supporting technology). No weapon before the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki could come close to the death tolls these achieved in literally a flash.
One reason Europeans swept across continents so quickly in the 19th century (and the US Civil War killed so many, the most of any war America has fought so far) were the new weapons born of the industrial revolution gaining steam earlier in the late 18th and 19th centuries.
@@alexrafe2590 I am not completely sure of the importance of weapons. It's more about the deliberate will of a state organized to mobilize the resources of millions of people against a minority.
Yugoslavia war and Rwanda prove that even with crude means, ethnic hatred can be built up between neighbors, with murderous consequences on large scale. Even when the distinction between ethnicity is more than dubious: Yugoslavian and Rwandese resorted to ID card to distinguish the "enemy", based on the last name or administratively stamped ethnicity, although this made few sense with so much cross wedding.
Feli, you are doing a great job of educating the public! As a 54 year old African American man, I appreciate the honesty and soul searching in the video. I was born on a military base in Frankfurt, Germany after the Civil Rights movements in the US. I wish I kept up my German language education in college. I am still trying to learn! Keep up the good work!
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Hitler was a socialist wanting to conquered world not a nationalist..
Hitler.mao..stalin...bush..Obama all politcal activists trained & installed by British/German Bank money given to bush and other families&foundations in America....corporations like phizer
.bayer..setitimg up quarnteen camp's amd covid passport papers ..durning lockdown ....
As an American Jew of parents who survived the Holocaust, (yeah, I'm 70 years old), your video explaining the curriculum in German education was very encouraging.
I personally can not ascribe guilt to current German people but knowing that this German nation understands what their grandparents were involved with is all that can be asked of.
Thank you for posting this very important video.
You should visit..its a fantastic country..i’m a british jew of german origin..i’m a huge fan of football (soccer) and boxing,my pursuits have taken me there over the years-the people are fantastic
Funny how so so many people survived this supposed genocide eh? Genocides tend not to leave millions upon millions of survivors
Mostly the parents of our grandparents.
they should teach that true Holocaust death numbers have not been firmly established and have been inflated for rhetorical effect. 6 million? I don't buy it.
Yes we do here and specially for my ppl(and yours) who grew up in a jewish village is this a hard theme ... Because we protected the holy spots of us until today even while this war. Its always important to remind about . This should be an excample not only for germans . This should count for the whole world how fast humans as nation can change on a really more as evil way. Because i can just admit thats not the germans from the past before this years and definatly not the germans today. So for me they are not duty because they grewnup later. Sadly is this mindset still in many heads...
Feli, this was an amazing lecture that you gave here. You are an amazing woman. I have great respect for you.
You did such a great job with this video. Thank you so much for tackling the subject so seriously and completely, compiling your survey responses as you did. Your video was only a half-hour long and yet I feel so much better educated on your and other Germans' perspectives. You are an excellent educator.
40 million Slavs were their victims and a total of 70 million! So there is a huge difference between the communists and the Nazis.
According to this plan all Slavs were to be exterminated including the Poles. A relatively small number were to be enslaved.
I served in West Germany (as it was then) as a Soldier from 1970 - 1974. My own experience was one of the 'younger generation' being reasonably comfortable when the War years were mentioned. My own dear Father survived those dreadful times and lost many good friends from 'U boat' attacks in the North Atlantic. I often wondered how he would have felt knowing that I had a German girlfriend during my time in Nienburg (Weser) - He sadly passed away in 1968 - I would have been happy to relate that your people were so much more like the British than anywhere else I have ever been (which covers quite a lot). One of the happiest times of my life was spent Langlauf skiing in Mittenwald (Bavaria). I just love your Country and the German people, what a pity I was not able to let my Father know. God Bless
If he was anything like my grandpa he wouldn't have cared about the girl. He got a purple heart from D-Day, and as he told my dad " I went over there to kill them and then I came back home and married one".
I don't think your father care that you dated a German. I did a few tours in Iraq and if I had kids who dated and Iraqi I wouldn't care. The governments go to war, the men fight the battle. If your dad is a reasonable and wise man he's not going to get mad at the soldier on the other side.
My mom and American daughter of an American soldier married my father who also was from Deggendorf of the Bavarian part of Germany . 👍👍 My American grandfather being the way he was he was not very happy about it as he was a pow in Germany at the battle of the bulge . All my life while he was alive my grandfather would call me a Nazi bastard not realizing that Hitler wiped out my father's hometown all because they were Roman Catholics . My dad came to the states 10 years after the war was over at the young age of 15 and was a true American patriot till the day he died back in 2009 .he always the loved the Americans . The German people are wonderful and beautiful people that were victims of their own political leaders .
@repentandbelieveinJesusChrist8 bad translation,
@@NinjaSushi2 Yeah, war was just a deadly game men played. We should have asked the German POWs we captured if they had much fun fighting for Hitler! Did they lose any friends playing this game?
Its all in good fun after all! Europe would have been such a boring place if World War II just didn't happen, people would have gone on living their boring lives without the opportunity to shoot and and kill human beings. American servicemen could have spent their Christmases with their families. So that German fellow that was shooting at them and keeping them in Europe was a real annoyance.
Danke für deine passende Herangehensweise und Set-Design für dieses wichtige Thema. Nie vergessen - nie wieder zulassen!
According to this plan, not only the Poles were to be exterminated, but all Slavs in the occupied territories in Europe and a relatively small number were to be enslaved.
In all, 40 millions Slavs were murdered.
In total 70 million victims. So there is a huge difference between the communists and the Nazis.
So interesting, Fel, your experience is so interesting. Your whole attitude is so admirable. You are talented and healthy and an incredible witness to this period. Thank you for your channel.
Excellent video presentation, Feli. I’m American, 69 years old, and a student of History. I’ve learned that we humans are capable of shocking atrocity, yet also capable of incredible kindness. Your presentation has helped mature and deepen my understanding of the duality of those extremes that are part of our nature. Thank you.
DIDN'T AMERICANS KILLED MILLIONS OF NATIVE AMERICANS? AND ENSLAVED MILLIONS OF AFRICANS?
recently there was an Earthquake in Turkey, and just a short distance away there was a Russian invasion of Ukraine, it wasn't controversial to send aid to the victims of the Earthquake in Turkey, but it was somewhat controversial to send aid to the Ukrainians that were affected by this human made disaster cause by all those armed illegal aliens coming across the border from Russia, and they started shooting, killing, and bombing innocent civilians!
There is a mind trying to kill people in Ukraine, but just mindless nature killing people in Turkey, the quake is over but the war is ongoing, so are we to blame the humans that came across the border without proper visas and with illegal military grade weapons, for this human made disaster in Ukraine? I sometimes wish those Russians were never born, like if there were no children born in Russia from 1990 to 2010, there would be no one to fight Putin's war. I hear Putin also visited Ukraine without permission, where was Putin's visa?
This is a truly wise man !
Wow you figured out something the religious people knew already thousands of years ago.
@Anon Ymous some atrocities are more shocking than others, the United States never ran a death camp for instance, the United States never started a World War. World Wars are atrocities in and of themselves. The United States fought in many wars, a few of which we started ourselves, but most of which we didn't.
Many thanks for this video. As a Dutch national I never discuss the topic with German friends or colleagues. I think I avoid it out of respect. I have to say that we are not taught a lot about tactics in school here either, but you will find this in documentaries that are broadcasted this time of year (memorial day, independence day etc).
Btw also really nice to hear your voice for longer German texts. The speed and clear pronunciation are perfect for me, not needing the subtitles.
You should consider reading further. Anti-Semitism was a world movement at the time. Even here in America there was a moderately successful Nazi political party 'until Hitler went too far'. Sadly...in my readings, I learned that Germany's 'Final Solution' actions gave anti-semitic groups throughout occupied Europe the courage to participate in the Holocaust...frequently turning neighbor against neighbor. Far too many today view the Holocaust as a Germany only event whereas the truth is far scarier.
you cant easily talk about this topic with germans. almost nobody will feel offended by it
Thank you very much for this. I am from the USA.
My father fought in Germany, and his ancestors (only 1-2 generations earlier) were from Prussia, Bohemia, Bayern, and Luxembourg. In fact, my dad’s uncle fought in WW I, in Germany, also. After that war ended he went to Luxembourg to meet his first cousins.
I hope to travel to Europe some day. I had hoped to take my dad, but by the time I maybe could afford it, he was too elderly. He died in 2009.
One interesting thing. I was with my dad when he had an appointment with a doctor he hadn’t seen before. The doctor came in, greeted us, introduced himself. Then he said, “Hentges. That’s a German name, right? Have you ever been there?”
My dad said, “Well no, not as a tourist. I was there during the war.”
The doctor said, “Me, too, but I was on the other side.”
Then they each shrugged their shoulders and nodded their heads once as if to say, “I understand. War is hell. Been there. Done that.”
From Subscriber in Asia It's Reported that Once Mother Russia re occupies all of EAST GERMANY again to prevent WW3 (NUCLEAR WAR) all the Groups that were not murdered (it's survivors) during the awful Nazi period must be transferred to the large Area of Germany under RUSSIAN RULE to protect them as the Nazi Movement is growing in the WESTERN SECTION OF GERMANY. THE NAZI MINDSET IS ALIVE N WELL IN GERMANY. GERMANY MUST BE KEPT OCCUPIED N DIVIDED FOR THE NEXT 1000 YEARS SAID BORIS YELTSIN 1989. who's family was murdered by the NAZI SS. RUSSIA WILL NEVER EVER FORGET! MUCH BLESSINGS YULIYA BEAUTIFUL N RICH GOD 1ST ALWAYS ⛪✝️
Once upon a time, men were raised with the principles of “fair play”. Whether in sport or any other contest including war, we were taught to be gracious in victory as well as defeat. There was no honor in salting the wounds. Both of my grandfathers fought in the second WW, but neither of them held grudges about it even though they both lost siblings and friends. To bury the hatchet and move on with life after the war, was the best way to prevent another one. The same was said to be true about the American civil war.
To those who use these events of the past to try and instill shame in someone, or to derive some profit from others, i say this. You are no better than those who perpetrated the original atrocities. Both you and them have profited from the same actions and events. If you use labels from these events to try and silence someone because they have different opinions or values than you, then you are using the same tactics that brought those events to pass. It needs to stop now, and we need men who once again understand the concepts of fair play.
This shouldn't be normal. NO MORE BROTHER WARS for these rich bankers.
@@coldwater5707 your father's culture was raped and taken from him
@@coldwater5707 on behalf of Anglo America, i am truly sorry
Thank you. This has helped me understand my aunt better who, while I was a child denied being German even though it was clear from her speech. We always thought of her as our crazy aunt. Only once the wall came down and she was reunited with her family has she relaxed on the subject. She was only 10 when the war ended so memory was probably limited, but the inherited shame affected many aspects of her life. I’m glad she knows we love her.
I love this content. As an American German, I grew up with horrible guilt, even though my direct family was here in the US. We had lots of family in Germany. My great grandmother was from Bavaria and my great grand father from Frankfort, I’m guessing, am Mein. Thank you for sharing what my family there might have experienced. And I love hearing you speak German. It’s gorgeous.
Why would you have horrible guilt? Wasn’t your fault.
Feeling are not rational. You’re right, I didn’t have anything to do with it. I feel guilt over slavery, too, which is closer to my direct family. I guess humans can make bad choices. I agree that by remembering we are more likely to not repeat then. Here’s hopin’.
@@KristaLinford i’m jewish of german jewish heritage..went to germany a few times to watch football (soccer) matches..had a fantastic time,met some fantastic people and thats my opinion of the place..no one should feel guilty for the horrors that happened,few if any of the perpetrators are even alive..germany has progressed a lot since then,its now probably one of the finest countries in europe
I feel the same way about slavery and ongoing inequality.
@@anthonywilson1959 I would like to add... my middle name is Lyndon, named after Lyndon Johnson bc he was a civil rights advocate as Majority Leader in the senate prior to his presidency. This was before he signed the civil rights act in 1964. He also enacted the only national health care in the US; Medicare and medicaid. His legacy of course is horrific war mongering. I'd like to mention in a tone of conversation that maybe it's good to not assume one is a pawn of media. We do live with meters of fairness and unfairness as an innate inclination. Oh and honest question... what do you mean by it was the UK that stopped slavery. ?
I haven't often clicked on your content, but I did today and I am glad that I did. I believe you put a lot of time and energy into this video and it shows. I liked the way you divided the topic into sections and especially liked that you surveyed your subscribers. What a great idea! This was such a valuable piece of work. It becomes more important with the world teetering on re-visiting the extremist right in so many places, including the U.S. Today I subscribed. Thank you!
Thank you very much. 1) I visited Berlin in 2000 and I confess to being scared to go. A rabbi friend of mine had been and truly enjoyed his visit. But my reaction to seeing police around synagogues was totally different than the reaction of my Christian friends. I found it reassuring while they seemed confused. All in all,, I found Berlin to be a warm, welcoming place. 2) When was the first time you met a Jew in Germany or in the USA? 3) I also greatly appreciate your mentioning the other groups who were victimized by the Nazi regime. We rarely talk about them in the USA. 4) In the USA in the 1950s and 60s we barely discussed many of the horrible actions taken by our own government. We mentioned in passing the Trail of Tears but did not discuss the ongoing issues of the many native nations within our country. And it wasn't until I was in my 60s that I learned that we and the French collaborated to make Haiti a failed state. 5) In my high school, one teacher had been in the Pacific as a pilot during WWII and talked about the "Japs." Our superintendent of public instruction had been in the Bataan Death March and talked about the "Japanese." Such a stark difference in respect some 20 years after the war ended.
Genug shoyn. A groysn dank.
Philly I am so very impressed with your explanation of this subject (and your video about German Politics). Thank you for posting such informative and interesting topics.
What an excellent, well researched and informative video! Not only are you making Germany, her culture and language interesting and attractive but you have done well in rehabilitating the reputation of carrying out surveys!
this video is the result of the allies indoctrination for the last ca. 80 years.....the video is showing the whole bullshit.
Lets assume a while that everything from the video and from the official history is TRUE:
1.) why does Germany have not "freedom of speech"...instead ca. 1,000 prisoners are actually in prison for speech-violation
2.) why does the official history from 1933-45 need law to be protected? Everyone who is espressing his doubt about the official-history is punished by law (like during Nazi-time...lol)
3.) why doesn't germany have a real separation of judicial, executive and legislative powers (as a result, germany is not allowed to issue eu-wide arrest warrants)....and why doesn't that bother anyone?
4.) why is germany still official enemy-state of United Nations?
5.) why does germany dont have an official peace treaty with every country who declared war against germany during WW2?
6.) why are french, english and american troops are still in germany, but no german troops are in france, england or us?
7.) germany is supposed to be sovereign...before that, however, it had to commit itself to having a maximum of 375,000 soldiers, no atomic bombs, etc.
8.) why has the expulsion of the Germans (i.e. east-prussia) and the subsequent land theft not been reversed?
9.) do you know, that more germans died AFTER WW2 then during the war?
10.) why is it forbidden to dig around the former places of the so called "rheinwiesenlager" until today?
Very informative, I had to share (California USA). It's appreciated that you did the survey and shared some responses. We had a German exchange student stay with us a few years back (Uni level) and he was very candid and factual sharing information about the holocaust and racism. I can't say we have done as good a job in our young country. Kudos for setting a standard that results in more informed and enlightened younger generations. And thank you Feli for working on this.
You have no idea! This is propaganda! I have lived in this country for a long time. I was also at school and had history lessons. They only blame the Nazis. The nation is absolved of guilt.
I remember my visit to Dachau. It was a life changing day and chilled my soul. I admit I sat down at one point and just cried. The memory is 40+ years old, and still makes me sad. For a nation to keep such a place open and bare its soul and sins to the world in such a memorial takes great depth of character
I lived and worked in Germany back in 1980. Since then it has always had a special place in my heart. My longest friendships are from that time. In 2014, I was speaking to a dear friend after Germany won the World Cup in what had to be the most perfect game I've ever watched. She told me how people were out on the streets waving German flags and singing the national anthem. Then she said, "This is the first time in my life I've felt proud to be a German". That made me sad. But she never felt she was allowed to be proud of being a German - 60+ years after the end of the war! Germany has gone to great lengths to repent of its past. More than any other nation. It has gone out of its way to show compassion and kindness to outsiders. More than any other nation. I think Germany has faced a lot of shaming by people who often express bigotry and hate under the guise of 'history'. They deserve better. Germany is not a perfect nation, but it is better than most.
Agreed. I also find it more sad and more sickening than I could possibly describe that there are more than hints of the propaganda and the beginnings of the "othering" and abuses in my own home country which has always before taken great pride and more than their own share of credit for ending such things in Germany. Ironic doesn't hold enough meaning as a word at all, does it?
All lies and propaganda.
Yes I was a much more uplifting visit to the soviet gulag graves scattered across east Europe to see all the 30,000,000 dead Christians killed by the future victims of Germany. I guess Lev Bronstein knew what Germany would do in a couple decades so he worked out a preemptive strike. After all the New York Times posted about the Holocaust as early as 1915.
That place was used for propaganda
Hi Im from Germany and live in a smaller city near dachau called Hebertshausen.
When I go outside I usually go down the small mountain near my Garden.
I walk through a forest and I arrive at the KZ Graveyard of the Victims.
It is allways really sad when I enter the place because I can fell that something very cruel happend here a long time ago.
May God bless you !
Have a good day!
Just stumbled across this. What a brilliant video that takes on the subject so objectively, while pointing out grey areas, or that this is by no means perfect. Well done.
It’s content like this that makes YT such an insightful tool. I commend and appreciate the work that went into pulling this together. You posed a question I was always curious about. Well done!!
She a brain-washed, guilt-ridden German who does NOT know the truth.
of some rando puking her opinion?
Thank you Feli, this video was a great educational experience for this 64 year old. I’m a fourth generation Texan, born very late in my parents’ lives, so a lot of my family still had very strong emotions around the war while i was growing up, especially my mother, whose brother (Bobby) was killed in August 1944 in France. I’ve always been fascinated by the period between the Russo-Japanese war and the end of the Second World War, and I’ve read many German accounts from those years, but they were always military accounts. Your video opened my eyes to a dimension of Germany I’ve never really considered before, the country’s succeeding generations in the decades after the war through today. I found it fascinating and heartening. I wish my mom could have been here to watch it. :O)
exciting
I’m jealous of the level of education you’ve received in the country where you grew up. I live somewhere where specific topics have value and others are better off forgotten.
Thank you for this video and the inspiration.
We only get taught what’s shit about our country so everyone turns into a green commie who’s gay. We never learned what’s great about us and what makes this country one of the best economies in the world ( not anymore due to socialism )
ahh youre Japanese. almost as bad if not worse than the Nazis
What you call "education" is nothing but propaganda.
The one who writes history is always the winner.
Apparently, without books. If you really valued education you could study it on your own.
@@vladtheinhaler8940 People should just study the material of the many "deniers" with an open mind, and than decide what makes sense and what doesn't.
Great video Feli. My father was a US B-17 Bombardier with ancestry from UK. My mothers ancestry hails from Germany. How weird. UK vs. Germany. I finally made it to Munich this past Sept- Spent about 10 days visiting WWII sites. I was impressed that there were German teens/a High School class visiting and seeing for themselves the history of Dachau. I also went down to Berchtesgaden and Garmisch-Partenkirchen. I was totally blown away how beautiful Bavaria is --- just beautiful. And how wonderful the German people are/treated me. However- they DO drive fast and I learned very quickly- stay in the right lane. LOL. Congrats on Green Card. Can't wait to go back this Spring 25'. However- Munich Airport is confusing. LOL. Danke......
Thank you so much for an enlightening presentation on how it is dealt with in Germany. I am an 78 years old man with English and Austrian background who always had difficulties raising the issue with German acquaintances. From my earlier age, I was conditioned by many war films and books showing the Germans as the bad boys. At college, learning German was a torture. Later, I met lots of Germans through my professional life, it opened my mind. Having studied at length 20th century German history, I still do not fully understand how a whole well educated and organized nation such as Germany got swallowed up into this horrible nightmare from 1930 to 1945. Through your vlog, the air is suddenly getting fresher.
German here. My schools visit of a concentration camp is over 25 years ago. What happend there is almost 80 years ago. But I will never forget the smell and my feelings that I had at that moment. Every time I think of this, I have goose bumps and tears in my eyes. I wish that every one in the world, no matter which origin, goes to such a place and learns what humanity can do when we are not practice compassion, trust, and good will into each other.
I think the world could use a little more humanity empathy and compassion.
@@user-xl3de3xv9s you did not get my point
As an Australian I agree America was pivotal in helping the Allies win the war in both European and Pacific theatre's but I think all the allies combined contributed to overthrowing the Nazi's including partisans such as French resistance.
@@user-xl3de3xv9sthat many of us did until America voted a narcissistic fascist into the office in 2016. Sad but true.
@@rufust.firefly6810get over it. You’ve been brainwashed by the political machine.
Starting by seeing your recent video on Rammstein, I checked out your channel and came across this video. As a German, I gotta say this is great. It finally gives people outside of Germany some context on how the topic is handled over here and why, sadly, some people get sick of it and it might even turn into another direction. I personally encourage to have educated conversations about it, meaning: If you do adress a German about this whole topic, consider this. How much have you actually learned about the topic, how knowledgeable are you? If you feel like you are well educated, adress it in a sensitive manner and obviously don't be cliche about it. If you feel like you don't know a lot about it you can still speak about it, just be acknowledging of the fact that you don't know a lot, don't make assumptions, and listen to what they have to say first and foremost. This applies especially if you talk to a person who is old enough to have actually interacted with those that lived through the war, or even the by now very rare instance of getting to meet a very elderly person that still remembers those times from their own life. Listen.
To be very honest, there were times back when I was in school (which wasn't super long ago, I completed my A-levels in 2014) where I felt they were kind of overdoing it with the topic, but nowadays that I'm an adult and can actually comprehend a wider range of aspects about it, I see why it is necessary for us to hear about it in great detail. I did, even back then, appreciate the more concrete examples we were shown, like visiting a concentration camp or meeting someone from a nearby Jewish community who told us about their experience back then. Looking back, it was just getting kinda tired of dealing with it in class. Nowadays I have the strong conviction that young Germans need to learn about it, and they need some grisly details as well to comprehend how horrible this actually was and what an insane crime against humanity the Holocaust in particular was. Apparently there are still problems in terms of dealing with this past since there are still, somehow, very right wing people in Germany and their parties getting more and more votes. For the sake of doing the right thing in that regard, I will now adress my fellow Germans directly and in our tongue:
Leute, ihr habt es alle in der Schule gelernt was für fürchterliche Verbrechen damals begangen wurden und welche Schuld Deutschland damals auf sich geladen hat. Wir, die aktuellen Generationen, sind natürlich nicht daran schuld, wir haben schließlich nicht dafür gewählt oder waren daran beteiligt. Aber was wir defintiv tun müssen ist dafür Sorge zu tragen dass so etwas nicht nochmal passiert. Haltet die folgenden Worte in eurem Herzen dazu: NIEMALS WIEDER. Niemals wieder. Wehret den Anfängen, wenn ihr euch die politische Landschaft anseht könnt ihr sie schon sehen.
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People, all of you learned in school what horrible atrocities were commited back then and the guilt Germany burdened itself with. For us, the current generations, it has to be said that obviously it's not our fault that it happened, we didn't vote for it or participate in it. What we do have to do though is make sure it never happens again. I want you to hold the following mantra close to your heart: NEVER AGAIN. Never again. Be wary of the roots of such ideologies and don't give them any ground, if you look at the current political landscape in Germany you'll see worrying tendencies in that direction.
I know the video is a year old. I like your videos but avoided this one until today. Very enlightening and open minded video, and I think you are brave. My wife and I got married in 1989, and spent 3 weeks in Europe on our honeymoon, over one in what was West Germany. We drove the Romantische Strasa. Lots of castles and bier gardens. Everyone was welcoming.
As the son of Holocaust survivor who lost his entire family in the gas chambers of Auschwitz I would like to thank profusely for this most important video . Your video has given me a lot of insight into modern day Germany . You have provided me with a sense of peace and closure about this very dark period of mankind. You are truly a unique and compassionate person . You cannot return my family to me but you provided me with peace and hope . Thank you for this fearless and comforting video . This video should be mandatory viewing .
Great lecture!
I'm german and I only want say, thank you for this comment.
Marius, you have brought tears of sorrow as well as joy to my eyes
I never knew I needed to hear that. As a German I bow to you and your family. I feel so incredibly sorry for you and so many others. What my ancestors did is an almost unthinkable act of terror, evil and monstrosity. And yet it happened. May your family be never forgotten, may they rest in peace and may we never fall so low again.
@Gary Russ yes, and since we are a democracy, this law is protected by the majority. Which is a good thing.
@Gary Russ absolutely untrue. We have freedom of speech as well. You are just not allowed to sh*t (sorry for this strong word) on the memorials of the victims of an atrocious crime (the victims of the Holocaust) by denying their existence. You can absolutely discuss historical facts and talk about theories.
Hi, Feli. Wow. First, thank you for making this video. I'm 63 and my father--and many of my uncles and cousins (I'm American of Italian descent)-- fought in the war. I was born in '59 and all I can remember is a gigantic hush about the war. Like, we must pretend it never happened--even though we kids saw how men suffered from their war experience every day. My father, after going through the Great Depression as a child, and being picked on and called names because of his Italian background, at the age of 21 ended up getting shipped off to Belgium to point guns at airplanes. The horrific things he saw (starvation in the Belgian countryside?), and perhaps even did, will be locked away forever as he passed away in 2006. I wish we'd talked about it more in America, especially the for we first generation of children whose parents fought. What I remember from childhood is hearing this very harsh and guttural sounding language of these "Nazis" during American war movies, and being afraid of German people and even hating the sound of the German language. It took me well into adulthood to do my own history learning to put this irrational fear and hatred into perspective. Now, I make sure that my students learn at least a little about it. I teach 6th grade social studies and we learn about Native Americans and I am sure to teach about the Navajo Code Talkers during the war, which leads to questions and discussions and I share my experiences...but it just seems like not enough. I feel we do so much teaching about the past and our "Independence" and nothing about the 20th Century! So I hope I light a spark. Thank you again for sharing your insights and experiences. It's so important and I appreciate it.
This has been a very fascinating video to watch. My Jewish Grandfather was able to flee Germany with my father in July 1939 and ended up in Cincinnati. My grandmother and Uncle where supposed to follow a couple months later. We know what happened in August of 1939. My grandmother, uncle, and Great Uncle ended up in a camp where my Great Uncle passed away. My Grandfather and dad both had their German Citizenship stripped in 1941. Eventually my Grandmother and uncle got deported and made it to the USA many years later. My father never talked about what happened to them leading up to them fleeing Germany. As my dad knew his health was deteriorating he wrote a book about his life, growing up in Germany, and what lead up to them fleeing Germany. I learned last year that Germany was allowing descendants of persecuted classes in Germany to restore the German Citizenship which I am now in the process for myself and my kids. My dad was always very proud of being German.
Thanks for this story. My Jewish Grandfather and grandmother flee Germany with my mother, a young child at the time, in 1934 but they mobed to Israel, then under British control.
That is the tragic irony behind the Nazi-time. German Jews before the Nazi-time felt very much connected to Germany and the greatest scientists of our time were often Jews from Germany.
I can't stress how much I appreciate you covering this topic so objectively! I'm Jewish and will be traveling to Germany for the first time next summer. I'm very well-traveled, having been to 6 of the 7 continents, but I think I've been subconsciously avoiding Germany. I know there's going to be things that will make me upset there. Who wants to be upset on vacation?
More topically, my son recently made a new friend at school. His parents are lovely people and the mother is German. It's never come up organically anyway, but I've been reluctant to mention that I'm Jewish. I'm aware of guilt aspect that some Germans feel and I don't want my new acquaintance to feel uncomfortable. I have asked her to lend me advice on our upcoming travels. You have helped make me feel more at ease if the subject were to come up. So thank you!
Feli, what a wonderful presentation! Very comprehensive and well researched. You dove into the topic in depth objectively. I served in the US Army 1978 - 1981. I was intensely interested in German attitudes on the topic. While I had a number of German friends I never felt comfortable discussing this. I must say I am proud of how the topic has been treated and I view Germans and Americans to be great allies! Thanks.
you mean to keep the guilt alive in people born after 1945 as a ground for the US colonisation in Central Europe? : )
@Csakbetksszmok To be honest I served in Germany to deter Soviet/Russian aggression. Sadly such deterrence is still needed.
@@rustywilliamson7140 : and thank you kindly for that service. Europe is getting a lesson now in how ruthless the Bear can be.
@@rustywilliamson7140 Yeah, and Soviet soliders served here against US aggression-I'd prefer if both Russian and US military would be far away from Central Europe ; )
My goodness. I admire how well and professionally you covered this very difficult time of Germanys history. Very tough. I’m so used to your much more (usually) carefree videos. Thank You so much
Feli it was very interesting hearing your perspective on WW 2. My father was a WW 2 combat veteran. He flew in a B-24 bomber. I learned so much more about the war from him than I did in school. I've wondered for many years what the Germans are taught and felt about that time. Thank you for posting a great video!
A similar subject is emerging slowly in the erstwhile colony owning countries like Britain. What do they teach their school children about colonialism? The subject is further complicated by the fact that the immigrant parents of many these “British” children are from the colonies. In fact, one can start with the Prime Minister’s own family!
@@benchilton1391Really when was that? How about the class system of not that long ago. The difference between a catholic and a protestant. My family emigrated in 1958 to get away from that. Both parents were ww2 veterans.
British Empire is still held on disdain after dominating 25% of the planet.
That was brilliant and really informative Feli. Thanks!
Feli, I thank you for this video. I am 61 years old & my father was 12 years old in the Philippines when Japan invaded. So I learned 1st hand how brutal the Japanese were. While I learned about the German side of the war. I always wondered how the people felt about the war & what was also taught about. I do have many friends from Germany but never talk about. On the other hand I also have friends from Japan & the ones I know were never taught how brutal there people were during the war. Thank you so much. I am now a subscriber.
Dear Feli,
This is a wonderful presentation. Articulate, honest, meaningful, and entertaining.
This is propaganda!
My brother was stationed in Frankfurt, Germany in 1973 with the U.S. Military (he was 19 years of age). He fell in love with the country & its People. When he came back from his tour... he told me that he would love to move to Germany when he retires... The German People take great care of their elderly. Thank you Feli for sharing this video... My respect and Love for you and the country of Germany.
She is not a German.
@@julialane6645 She is. She immigrated to the USA just a few years ago.
Just finished the video. It was excellent. Thank you very much for presenting the German perspective of this awkward topic. Much appreciated!
As someone who has traveled extensively through Germany, it was (and is) a learning process, certainly not a condemnation. We've had nothing but wonderful experiences with the people, the food and the warm culture, especially in Bavaria. We found Regensburg and Passau to be two of our favorite smaller cities. There were some very somber moments in our travels and as others have mentioned, the stumbling stones and random headstones we encountered in Regensburg were a grim reminder of the atrocities suffered as early as the 1500s.
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Amazing and insightful content. So well explained. I’m from Norway. My grandparents also lived through wwii here in Norway. The Nazis came to their village in Gudbrandsdalen & occupied the village & neighbouring house (next to my grandparents house). I remember the stories that my grandparents told me. I’m in my late 40’s now. In my eyes, the effect of the war didn’t feel that long ago. It is important to talk about in the hope it never happens again.
Greetings from Norway 🇳🇴
Hi, I'm a German student who spent a semester living in Lillehammer. While I was there, I went to the Sigrid Undset museum and got a tour, which was incredibly interesting, the guide also told us about the German occupation time, in which Sigrid had to flee, because she had publicly positioned herself against the Nazis. Your comment just reminded me of this and I wanted to recommend this museum, in case you don't know it yet :)
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Wow. Ich bin wirklich überrascht und erfreut wieviel du wirklich über das Thema in Erfahrung gebracht hast. 1A Video, auf den Punkt gebracht, mit Bildern visualisiert, besser geht's nicht. Direkt mal Abonniert und bin total gespannt, was du sonst noch so hast. Liebe Grüße aus Griechenland.